A recent survey by Trill has found that 54% of Japanese teenagers aged 15 to 19 are unfamiliar with The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, one of the most influential anime series of the 2000s. According to the data from Japan, 32% said they know about the series but haven’t watched it, while only 14% have actually seen it. The results show that a majority of today’s younger audience has little to no connection with what many consider a landmark anime of the Heisei era.
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I don't like Haruhi
>>288155105>influentialWhat did Haruhi influence?
EXTRY EXTRY!"TIME PASSES"READ ALL ABOUT IT!
Oh hey another shitpost thread.
>15 to 19>2011 to 2006To me that's like anime born between 1982 and 1987. And yeah, I don't know of many from that era which adults of the time said would never be forgotten.
>>288155156Haruhi, K-ON and Lucky Stars birthed moebuta culture. stain of the industry. fortunately it's not permanent since moeshit is being phased out nowadays.
I mean who goes out of their way to watch anime from 5 years before they were born?
>>288155271Half of /a/ based on how loud the old good new bad crowd are here
>>288155210smartest arcana poster:
>>288155105>Over Half Of Japanese Gen Z Don’t Know About Haruhi SuzumiyaAnd? They aren't the target audience. Who cares?
What anime Gen Z actually watch?
>>288155420The current airing shows
>>288155105GoodFuck emAnime needs to be gatekept from faggots and retards
>>288155340Bo but those are old people too. They are talking about anime from their childhood not before it.
>>288155271I get your point, but it's not like only freaks look up for older material. Being mostly handmade, anime stands the test of time surprisingly well, unlike movies done with crappy effects.
>>288155105Isn't that gen alpha?
>>288155105well, if it is general teenagers and not just anime fans, then that is a HIGH number
>>288155105There are thousands of forgettable anime out there. Why should zoomers care about Haruhi any more than they care about the other thousands of forgettable anime out there, whether recent or from decades past?Also, this poll of yours (assuming it's even real and not just something Haruhitards like you made up for (you)s) proves that Haruhi is indeed insanely overrated and that the only people who care about it are fat mid-life crisis millennials who got into anime in the mid-2000s and thought Haruhi was some seminal piece of work when it couldn't even stand the test of time (not just in Japan, but in the rest of the world). "NOOO YOU HAD TO BE THERE AT THE TIME TO EXPERIENCE IT, IT WAS TRULY SPECIAL, TRUST ME GAIIZZZ!! ENDLESS EIGHT ENDLESS EIGHT KYONKUN DENWAAAA :DDDD"".
>>288155105>15 to 19>46% are aware of itHonestly surprising given that it was absent half their life or longer.
>>288155156Online choreographed dance memes.Haruhi is basically just TikTok.
Good. Haruhi is shit. The world would be a better place if it was completely forgotten.
>>288155105Good. This shit boring
>>288155773This excuse again. There have been tons of anime from the same period in the 2000s that still remain relevant among young people under the age of 20 despite not having had any new entries. Like FMA, Death Note, Gurren Lagann, or Toradora. >>288155228K-ON/LS style SoL garbage may be phasing out, but sadly the artstyle they popularized has become the norm. Kyoanus was a mistake.
>>288156330>excuse ??What are you on about?>FMA, Death Note, Gurren Lagann, or Toradora.Show me those numbers, pussyboy
>>288155105Good, it's trash.
which half?
>>288155210>>288155271For me that'd be 1992-1997. >NGE, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin, Sailor Moon, GitS, etc. Holy shit that period was stacked with legendary anime. I didn't even have to go out of my way to seek recs for the famous anime of that era, interest and discourse around those shows were just kept alive for decades that I just came around to watching them eventually.
>>288155105At least post the link to the actual article, you shithead.https://trilltrill.jp/articles/4704479
>>288157771>Number of valid responses: 100
>>288155156It started the literally me MC trend
>>288155105
look, the only meme that haruhi is known for is that the voice actress slept with everybody except the bassist.
>>288159426kyonkun denwa bros...
Haruhi's main problems were endless eight, the author doing very long hiatus even longer than what Togashi does and no season 3.
>>288159996Why does she sit like that?
>>288160128The author had a nervous breakdown in 2007 because of the series' immense popularity and mostly abandoned it from anxiety.
>>288155156It influenced otaku culture being referenced in anime
>>288155105If 14 % of Japanese teenagers aged 15 to 19 have actually seen Haruhi, that would be pretty impressive. But I'm going to assume that "having seen it" doesn't mean having watched at least the first season to completion. Probably includes everyone who caught a random episode on TV one time, or worse yet, watched at least a single Youtube clip.
>>288155156Haruhi popularized harem romcom Light Novel adapations with high school settings. OregaIru, Chuunibyou, Haganai, AoButa, Saekano, MakeIne, Roshidere, Kuranika this season, etc. etc. they are all downstream from Haruhi's success.
>>288155271>I mean who goes out of their way to watch anime from 5 years before they were born?Why do Haruhifags constantly use this and variants of this shit argument as a cope? There are tons of anime from the mid-2000s and early 2010s that still get talked about today by younger zoomers (or even the 1990s like older Miyazaki films). Why can't they just accept that Haruhi is forgettable and irrelevant?
I said it in another thread but I think it's true on a metaphysical level.>>>288160629On a metaphysical level Haruhi tried to become the Goddess of otaku media but she failed to do so because her series didn't continue since the movie came out (and even the LNs weren't released anymore for a long time).Hatsune Miku took the spot that Haruhi could have.
>>288156330Completely made up retardation, shows like FMA/Gurren Lagann/Toradora weren't even close in popularity to Haruhi in Japan and are remembered by even less people
>>288160596>Haruhi>Harem
>>288160884Yes.
>>288160884Yes indeed. Kyon has a varied selection of hot bitches orbiting him and that's sufficient. You'll note that most harem series have a predestined winner right from the word go, so it's not necessary for the outcome to be open in order to qualify.
>>288160790What's the cope? Nobody cares about Westoid zoomers not remembering Haruhi, that's a good thing actually. This is a good number for Japanese zoomers considering this is based on a 100 sample survey apparently lol
>>288155105>people are unfamiliar with a shitty meme from 20 years agoNo way.
>>288155105and?Who gives a shit?>a series has to stay popular for the whole existence of the universe, or else!!!
So close to half of Japanese zoomers know about Haruhi? How is this even really an anti-Haruhi survey?
>>288155156Memes.
Such is the fate of all late night anime.
>>288161080>How is this even really an anti-Haruhi survey?It isn't. OP just frames it that because he's a faggot.A proper title would be "Almost Half Of Japanese Gen Z Still Know About Haruhi Suzumiya: Survey Finds" because it's remarkable that Haruhi had so much staying power. Would be interesting to see that number put into perspective too. I wouldn't be surprised if nowhere near half of japenese teens could name their current prime minister at any given time.
>>288155944>>288155948>>288156461>samefag crying>>288155228>>288156330>>288160790>toonamifag bitching>>288155120>>288155126>general subhuman retardation I hate normalfag Sundays
>>288155156my cock
Haruhi was even being used to teach English to Japanese High schoolers just a couple years ago.
>>288161216>Haruhifag can't handle the truth
>>288161887This singular reply is just evidence most of those garbage posts were just schizo samefagging lol
The Haruhi franchise's biggest issue is that everything that can possibly be said about the show has already been said. There's nothing to talk about, nothing to speculate on, no more fan theories to debate. Haruhi content peaked so hard, so fast from 2007-2009 and a little beyond that the fans explored literally any avenue for conversation that could be had. And with no new content, there's just nothing to discuss anymore. It's the definition of a franchise that "burned the candle from both ends," that oil burned bright and hot but it burned really fast. I will always love this show, I feel like I carry it with me in my soul still today, but there's just nothing to talk about anymore. Looking back on that time, it really does feel like some kind of magic spell was released on us all and it cascaded across the whole globe. That's the power of ideas and creativity.
>>288155105I blame Kyoani for botching the release of season 2 and poor directorial decisions in choosing to do one episode eight times, who is going to buy the BD of that?
>>288162296Blame Kadokawa, they commissioned it to be done that way. Presumably they did it because they thought it would be attention grabbing marketing for the LNs. It's certainly a stunt that was outrageous enough to be remembered to this day, gotta give them that.
>>288155105>Just finished watching the tv show and Disappearance for the first time.>See this thread.God damn I am actually upset that there's never going to be more Haruhi.
>>288160884Even Koizumi wants a taste of Kyon's cock.
>>288160128Retard
>>288161977How?
>>288162529Believe in S3!
>>288162489I mean yeah I'm still talking about it but I'm also still talking about the Challenger Disaster
>A recent survey by Claudius Faggotus Magnum has found that 54% of Lusitanian teenagers aged 15 to 19 are unfamiliar with Oedipus Rex, one of the most influential anime series around AUC100.wooooooow
>>288162739I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE, HARUHISOS BRIGADE UNTIL I FUCKING DIE
>>288155105I'm biased because I didn't watch Haruhi back then, but the 2000s always felt like it had a lot of medium and small hits that were a part of the greater otaku culture. Like, I could see Lucky Star and Fate the same way if I hadn't watched and read them at the time. It wasn't like the 90s and 80s where there's these massive era defining entries that persist till today. If anything, the 2000s is probably better characterized by entries that explode in popularity but fail to leave a big legacy. Maybe for better or for worse. Galaxy Angel is another series I think of, in the very early 2000s and was apparently massive at the time in Japan. But any good GA fan like myself is well aware of how utterly forgotten, even on /a/ that the series is (except for a very small handful of you blessed anons).That being said, I love the 2000s. So many comfy shows and overlooked gems.
>>288155126no one does. She's a bitch we all just would like to fuck her brains out
>>288155105>2026>japanese teenagers so,all the 20 of them?
>>288155105I mean it's not really surprising. This board is mostly boomers and most people don't give a fuck about Haruhi anymore based on how slow every thread about the series is. If the boomers who supposedly love it seemingly don't actually care about it outside of tiktok meme dances, why would you expect zoomers to care about it?
Haruhi was trash. It wasn't good at all and i dropped it after they showed the same episode three times in a row and it had only released a few years ago at that point.
>>288163477The 2000s were the golden time of anime and otaku culture. The Oreimo LNs was made between the late 00s and early 10s. I don't think many things in it wouldn't work nowdays just because anime and otaku culture changed a lot since then.
>>288158320Kyon isn't a literally me though.
>>288163822>otaku culture changed a lot since then.And for the worse.
>>288164380Maybe not literally (You) but he's literally me
>>288160991Nagato doesn't want his dick (no, Disappearance Nagato isn't Nagato) and he has only flirted with Mikuru a couple of times but they're not meant to be together. I mean you can still go and call it a harem if you really want to but it's not really describing what the series does.
>>288162024Haruhi can be discussed but it's on the subtler side, like you have to actually revisit the show/novels and discuss some of its finer details. Other than that, it's best left as what it truly encompasses and means: striving for more, always advancing, always expanding your horizons. Haruhi is about walking forward with what you love in your heart but never being stuck to it.
>>288155105Honestly, looking at it from today's perspective, Haruhi isn't that good or interesting. It was a fun show at the time 20 years ago, but when friends ask me today if they should watch it I tell them they can skip it unless they're really interested in the premise.
>>288160790What like Ghost in the Shell or Dragon Ball? Most Zoomers are not talking about your average 90s anime.
>>288164501>from today's perspectiveYeah it's crazy how we invented stories in the last 20 years
>>288156330Neither FMA, Toradora, nor Gurren Lagann are really well known among Zoomers. Death Note is, because it is a meme machine.
>>288163477Yeah, there weren't a lot of totally legendary series from that era, but a lot of shows that felt like they were building and immersing themselves in the larger otaku culture. Like the whole era is more of a collage.
Despite the hiatus Haruhi is still very much popular, and certainly more than most anime of its timehttps://sneakerbunko.jp/haruhi/special/comment100/At the end of the day you can't really keep the machine going that long with only effectively 22 anime episodes, one movie, and a series of light novels that didn't overstay their welcome.You should be happy about that though. No need for a franchise to degenerate into some stupid bullshit just to keep getting sequels out and try to ape as much longevity as can be.
>>288164786Unfortunately Kadokawa is being forcibly taken by some chink conglomerate that is intent on milking any and all old IPs
>>288164685Retard
>>288164887We don't sign our posts here.
>>288163822*golden age>>288164399Like I said it was the golden age for otaku culture back then.
>>288164786>No need for a franchise to degenerate into some stupid bullshit just to keep getting sequels out and try to ape as much longevity as can be.I just wish that the LN series got finished and all the volumes were adapted as an anime or at least Snowy Mountain Syndrome was adapted.4-5 Haruhi seasons would be perfect. I don't think it needs more.
>>288165125I agree we needed more. S3 with 24 episodes and a movie could work to bridge the gap to Surprise. At the end of the day Haruhi is saved from bad writing but it's in that spot where we just need A LITTLE MORE to be comfy with the animated content.
>>288163822Mid-2000's into 2015 was a peak otaku era. 2016 is the start of mainstreamisation of it. I'm glad I was able to visit Akihabara in 2013.
>>288155156about 46% of all japanese children, apparently
>>288165939>I'm glad I was able to visit Akihabara in 2013.I envy you.
>>288164786Ehh. A series lasting too long is one thing, but that doesn't mean Haruhi was handled well. It didn't conclude "well." It didn't conclude at all. It just went from being an active series to being in limbo. It still receives rare updates.
>>288165939>2013I was 17 back then. Not enough money. How was it back then?Did you revisit it? I've heard it is mostly a foreign tourist trap nowdays.
>>288155105meh
Good. Fuck those broccoli head subhumans. The more we gatekeep anime from those creatures the better.
14% of 100 gen nips is pretty good honestly, I expect like 5 at most
>>288155105haruhi is dogshit and should be forgotten
Haruhi like most other late night anime are comparable to cult shows in the west. Ask any zoomer here if they know about Xena Princess Warrior, Arrested Development or Firefly and most will have no idea.
>>288164380He's literally me, though
I'm a boomer and Haruhi never really caught my interest, I had like one volume and that was it.
People moved on, haruhi was already pretty bad when it came out and it was just a shitty meme show, like all meme shows forgotten.
We hate anime here and only love isekai KINO.
>>288167327Parts of Haruhi involve going to other worlds. That shit was actually one of the things I disliked the most when I watched it.
Who cares? Real boomers would call you a casual because you haven't watched Mazinger or Touch or whatever. Why should the kids be forced to care just because it's sacred to (You)?
Anything that appeals to straight men will never appeal to the zoomer. Zoomers will forever kiss and beg at the feet of women while their women fuck real men.
>>288167371its not, haruhi was always garbage and only schizos posted it on /a/
>>288155105>Haruhi SuzumiyaIt's Suzumiya Haruhi.
>>288167408Zoomers are into cuckoldry and homoshit tho. They are scared of women to the point they cannot even handle a fictional woman.
>>288167408>>288167456>t.gooner millennials that think spamming anime porn all over the screen is normal and healthy
>>288167198>Xena Princess WarriorI watched that and I think I liked that.>FireflyI've heard about that.>Arrested DevelopmentI neither watched it nor have I heard about it. I guess it never came out in my country.
>>288167490kys, zoomtranny.
>>288167408LOL, LMAO.
>>288167408Based, zoomturds in shambles.
What has the steinstard so uppity today?
>>288155105Did Kyon rape Nagato in at least 1 loop?
>>288167198The first three seasons of Arrested Development are golden, season four is an experiment in streaming TV and when your stars can't/won't bother with your shooting schedule because streaming has no prestige, and season five is what happens when you have one joke about four years into Trump term one and make the entire season that joke. Arrested Development doesn't get talked about because the most recent seasons were too good in making anyone care about it, yeah the early stuff is great but the bad taste left in my mouth from what came later is too strong; funnily enough the endless eight and its resolution left too terrible a taste in my mouth to watch the next episode after they ended. Sure there's more Haruhi but the remaining feeling I have for it is profound dislike becuase of the ending to the endless eight, yeah I get it makes sense both thematically and characterwise but I don't care.
>>288167734maybe.
>>288155105The anime is over 2 decades old. It's certified unccore.
>>288155105>release kinda interesting S1 that gets the anime community excited to see where the story goes>wait an eternity to release S2>it's Endless 8>LN apparently stalled out>people who weren't watching anime in 2006 don't care about itShocker.
>>288167408The girls in haruhi are fucking ugly as shit. The average seasonal harem show mogs the shit out of every haruhi girl
>>288168797Nigga what, Mikuru is a 12/10, mfs be lying for no reason
>>288155105Considering that this survey even exists at all, I'd say it's not doing all that bad for a series that hasn't had a new animation in fifteen years. Most other anime airing in 2006 got forgotten even by people that were there at the time.
>>288169024Like a 4/10 compared to every post 2010 anime girl
>>288155105I'm in my 30s and never watched her shitty anime.
>>288160879Good thing we don't give a fuck about nip market as we don't live there
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>>288169453>>288169479Seething brownoid
>>288155105>younger people don't know old animeAnother more fucking revelations, Brainiac?
>>288169586They know actual popular shows like fma and death note tho
>>288170055Oh wow you're still mindbroken over that?It's been 3 years, you're worse than a virgin about his first crush
>>288167971The last two seasons of AD did almost as much to kill the love for the series as the last two seasons of GoT did to kill that one. AD's saving grace is that very few people even knew S5 existed.
>>288170096We don't take kindly to sex-havers on /a/ please leave
>>288170096Idk what youre talking bout but aight bruh
>>288155105>zoomersIt doesn't matter, they are not buying, watching or understanding anything beyond 10second slop from tiktok.
>>288155210I checked anichart for anime from 5 years before I was born. The only thing I had seen was dragonball.
>>288170335>beyond 10second slop from tiktok.a 10 second tiktok dance is the only thing people liked about haruhi
>>288155420Tiktok or whatever AI recommends them
>>288155156the erection of many
>>288160240>haruhi is to blamei am laffin
>series should appeal to the (generally) mentally retardedDo you really want your beloved series raped with nonsensical memes such as picrel? While they aren't as mentally deficient as their American counterparts (a rather low bar), young Japanese otaku prefer to entertain themselves with gacha games and vtumors, so they're still kinda retarded in their own way.
>>288160596>haruhi popularized haremI AM CONTINUING LAFFIN
Why don't kyoani work together with kadokawa again and do some romance ln from narou?
>>288155420Battle shonen, so pretty much what the general audience always did. The otaku part of the generation is the one looking at past shows.so just like what the otaku audience always did
>>288171121Because KyoAni's business model is centered around them having all the creative freedom and getting the majority of the profit so that they can finance their high quality.Kadokawa, as a major corporate publisher, wants to make money so they naturally won't allow them these conditions.
>>288155105It was a cultural phenomenon because Haruhi was cute and actually flawed and it wasn't a generic SoL anime. It blew all good will it garnered with its first season by trolling the audience with Endless Eight. The movie, while stellar, came way too late to matter anymore and for most fans it neatly wraps up the series. The Disappearance of Yugi being another troll job killed any lingering hope most die hard fans had and it's clear the writers have no idea how to move the series forward at all, let alone at a reasonable pace. It's been 20 years since Haruhi was relevant and topical. Imagine uncs in 1993 losing their minds because 90s teenagers didn't know about Bonanza or All in the Family. Haruhi was a flash in the pan whose memento was totally destroyed within 3 years of its arrival because the writers were a bunch of fart sniffing autists. We'll always have season 1 and the movie but yeah bro, it's a franchise that's been dead for two decades now. You can't blame teens for not knowing or caring about it.
>>288155105It doesn't matter how popular a series was at its peak if it shit the bed eventually. People giving a qualified recommendation means everyone steers clear
>>288155420I don't think they watch anime, they just regurgitate memes made about the shows. They may know Haruhi, but they never watched the show.
I really, really, really like this game CG.
I really, really, really like this image.
How do people watch older anime in Japan? Seeing as they're too afraid to torrent, and most likely have never heard of bittorrent, do they just buy BDs? Are video rental places still around? Do they have to hope it's on a streaming service? For us outside of Japan, anime and bittorrent are inextricably linked.>>288155271>I mean who goes out of their way to watch anime from 5 years before they were born?This isn't a good point because anime before the 90s is mostly low quality and forgettable. We only discuss the gems. After 1995 anime really takes off in terms of quality and the 2000s are still talked about and looked at as the golden era of anime and otaku culture. For most people even if they're Japanese, anime are just tv shows, they don't care about engaging with an entire subculture.
>>288155105Yes yes we know the monoculture/anime canon/whatever the fuck is dead. Stop harping on about it. If you want zoomers to know about the show, then tell them about it as well as any other show you care for them to know about. This is a hobby, not a fucking history test.>>288162024do you know how many books there are that still haven't been touched? Not all of them are that great but they're there>>288155271why shouldn't you? once a show is made it exists for all time for you to see. How do you go through life only watching new shit? That sounds horrible>>288165939It had its golden age from 2005 to 2012, then tapered off with all the "literally me" shows
>>288167198>Arrested Development>FireflyI've seen both of them everywhere and only bothered trying out the latter. It wasn't my thing; I'm not a gen Xer desperate for yet another spaceman show>>288170995hey, it's that gif I made!
>>288164703>Neither FMA, Toradora, nor Gurren Lagann are really well known among Zoomers.I feel most of them are familiar with it but weren't around when they were airing and the cultural hype surrounding it was pushing everyone to watch it and keep up. It doesn't have to do with age; the meme simply isn't there to keep things going. I'll watch Aria, Haruhi, Ichigo Mashimaro, and Haibane Renmei all day because they fit my tastes. I've tried watching FMA and TTGL but I cant get into either of them; I haven't bothered with Toradora because romanceshit doesn't interest me.You don't need to be a certain age to find something entertaining or funny if it's truly funny and entertaining to you, but you do need to at least see the bandwagon to go along with stuff outside your wheelhouse, the same way you'll stop watching a movie at home much faster than you'll walk out of a movie theatre.
>15 >zoomerYou guys sure those ain't a complete new generation?
What I don't get is you're apparently supposed to find Haruhi attractive or charming but she's like god so how can that even work? Like that sounds terrifying. Like a girl randomly sexually harassing her big boob friend is kind of funny, but god doing it just makes the whole thing seem odd.
I should rewatch Haruhi at some point. I've rewatched Lucky Star a handful of times because I was just more into that. The Lucky Star characters are likable while Haruhi isn't (and was probably never meant to be).It was never clear to me that Haruhi was that influential? Most SoL CGDCT anime seem more like Lucky Star than Haruhi to me, but I doubt either of the series invented the concept or are to blame for the moe zeitgeist.>>288173547You're meant to find her funny and/or annoying, I assume.
>>288173547Haruhi's more like Yakub than God
>>288171009Urusei Yatsura popularized the harem formula in general, but it's a very different flavor from post-Haruhi LN romcoms. Lum was influential and then some decades later Haruhi was influental in her own way, both can be (and are) true at the same time. Think of it as a family tree with Lum sitting somwhere close to the root, and Haruhi being the starting point of a very productive new branch.
>>288173629>References to Yakub have become more prominent on Generation Z social media, to the confusion of older people. Literally off Wikipedia and I am living it right now. This doesn't mean anything.
>>288173655then look it up. Do you want me to spoonfeed you just because you're old or something?
Maybe it's all those female animators or something at Kyoani, but I love how realistically curvy Haruhi is. She's neither a Clamp noodle nor one of those grotesque titty monsters you often see in ecchi shows.
>>288173547She's an old school God like Zeus.
>>288173091>How do people watch older anime in Japan?They can watch reruns on good ol' TV. All these anime aired on Japanese TV first, after all. In fact I believe there was an anniversary rerun of Haruhi recently, jumbled episode order and all.
>>288173672I read it. But it isn't relevant. She didn't do any of the shit described. You're just meming. >>288173692I thought she could like, rewrite reality and like, make time loops and stuff? That seems beyond most old school gods.
>>288173708>She didn't do any of the shit described.Read the novels. It lines up more than you think
>>288173547She's unaware of her own powers which means, firstly, that she's not going to use them deliberately in malicious ways, and secondly, that you can maneuver around them by humoring her benign whims. >but I don't want to be blackmailed into humoring her whims!Yeah, well, maybe women aren't for you then, and becoming a monk who secludes himself from the exhausting femoid menace is your true calling.
>>288173786But that means she might accidentally reverse time or end all life or turn you into a doorknob or something. I feel like that isn't worth it.
>>288155120fpbp>>288155126spbp>>288155156tpbp>>288155170fpbp>>288155210spbp>>288155271spbp
>>288155105Well yeah, the otaku world you used to know is dead, most people that were dancing on Akibahara back then are either married or spending their money on gacha and vtubers.
>>288155105Makes sense. The culture around Haruhi hasn't existed for a long time. A "you had to be there" thing they were not there for.
>>288166929Yeah >>288165180My point is less is better than too much
>>288173547Haruhi's charming because she's a (flawed, especially at first, less later) person who found ways to self actualize in a world that thinks you're just another number. She's actually quite gentle too, episodes like the concert one show it.
>>288155105>Haruhi invents TikTok dancing>zoomers don't even know her Shameful
>>288174381I wasn't there and I really like haruhi and the franchise itself
>>288174651Yeah, this whole "you had to be there" thing is bullshit. A good story is a good story, and Haruhi has definitely lots of merits.
>>288173908Or they are dead.
>>288155105>teenagers don't know/care about some show that aired before they were born and prefer to watch what their peers are watching instead Wow, no shit.
>>288155105>Gen Z>Japanese teenagers aged 15 to 19Gen Z is from roughly 1997 to 2012 so 14 yo to 29 yo, the survey covered only 1/4 of "Gen Z" you retard
>>288174680No, is not a good story in any way, or at least not better than any other.
>>288175561It's a great story and definitely better than (You)r favorites.
>>288155420Jujutsu, Kimetsu, DanDaDan, Frieren, Bocchi... Anything you see that gets used as their reaction images, or the clips on TikTok.The flashier the show, the better.
>>288155105>Over Half Of Japanese Gen Z Don’t Know About Haruhi Suzumiya: Survey Finds
This thread just reminds me how angry I was at how badly they managed the anime adaptations.I wasn't even that big of a fan but it still pissed me off.
>>288175702>all kinoAnime is getting better
>>288173091By buying the DVD/BDs, new or old, or more commonly just streaming or watching reruns on TV. I'm not too well versed in their piracy habits but I believe they usually don't catch shit if they're torrenting old series. I don't think any significant percentage of them still does that though.>>288173700>an anniversary rerun of Haruhi recentlyYeah, ep8 is going to start in just 3 hours. Only the first season though.
>>288164430The members of the SOS Brigade are literally the typical generic harem main characters: The self-insert, the plot-armor bitch whose victory was promised by Ken Akamatsu, the Rei clone, the shy fanservice girl and the fujobait. The series is very self-aware regarding that, and turns the industry trends that bound the way the archetypes were written into metaphysical sci-fi.
>>288160240gainax?
>>288177069Yeah, that's kind of what I mean. At a glance they look like typical cardboard cutouts but they're not and the series does something different with them, meaning you might go and call Haruhi a harem if you really wanted to but it's not really describing what Haruhi does in any meaningful way. It's just a pretty sad hamfisted way to disparage it by throwing out the "harem" qualifier like it's a bad thing (honestly I don't see why it would be in the first place but whatever)
>>288155156Moe shit, romance, slice of life, rom com, waifu culture.You know, what has basically ruined literally every anime since then and has turned modern otaku culture into just a bunch of tropes and tags.
>>288177187Don't you have a JJK Reddit thread to discuss aurafarming and frauds in?
>>288176483We are living in a time where buying physical is now the smartest thing to do.>>288177198Can you explain to the rest of us why you think conceding is helping the discussion?
>>288155271People will still watch Fist of the North Star in 20 years, I cant say the same for all the shitty isekais and epilepsy simulators from 2026
>>288176483Turns out 20 years later, buying physical was the giga brain thing to do.>>288177198Can you explain to us why you conceding is helping the discussion?
>still mindbreaking faggots 20 years laterNice
Why would zoomers watch older shows that they weren't around for other than to be posers anyway? they have their own zeitgeist.
>>288179606Why would zoomers watch older shows when those older shows aren't waifu centric?
>>288158320>It started the literally me MC trendThat was Evangelion newfag
>>288177388>>288177469retarded normalfag samefagger
>>288180178It was even before evangelion. It started back in the OVA days in the 80sI don't think you retards have realized that most anime since the 80s has been fucking romance with different coats of paint.
>>288180178Not a single anime immediately after Evangelion mimicked the whinging, neurotic, insecure, submissive Shinji. A wave of imitators to this day mimic Kyon's sarcastic, introspective, above-it-all mannerisms.
>>288180318See this is how we can tell no one here watches fucking anime.
>>288180178Shinji isn't a nihilistic high school loner who looks down on normalfags
>>288180386so many fucking fish eyed men. Jesus christ how horrifying.
>>288173091>How do people watch older anime in Japan?Netflix Japan, D-Anime, and other legal streaming platforms.
>>288180318I would bet a pretty penny that kyon is based off one of the many protagonists from Key that came before haruhi, hes definitely not the first when it comes to being sarcastic or his other traits
>>288155105Gen Z should be strapped to chairs and forced to watch the entire Dragon Ball series.
>>288180967The straight man and the quirky girl everyone loves is a trope older than humanity
>>288155228>moebuta culturethat shit is older than this board and any oldfag still lurking /here/.A way to out youself as a tourist is to believe the propaganda about moe ruining anime when moe walked along with mecha and porn to build anime.
>>288180992Thats why slop like DanDaDan and Solo Leveling exist.
>>288181002Name one example from antiquity or older.
>>288181055>moe walked along with mecha and porn to build anime.
>>288181090Faggots are afraid of solo levelling because it has a fight every episode. Dandandnadnadnadnadnadnandandan is just weird and chuuni zoomer shit with typical romance trash and something else as a backdrop.
>>288181002I get that but like its like specifically how its presented is what i mean, like there's these little details about it, idk how to explain it
>>288180992Even super and GT?
>>288155105>100 people sample size>the survey was aimed at teenagers in general not just otaku>place of residence: Nationwide, not Japanconsidering everything 46% is actually pretty impressive, however it still fuck all since the sample size is too small. the only thing that has been confirmed is that OP is a faggot
>my memes from 20 years ago are better than your memes todayI swear I have heard this before...
>>288180318>above-it-all mannerismsThat's not what Kyon is though. He's a pretty down to earth everyman, except he's also somewhat eccentric, hinting at his second thoughts.
>>288155420Aura farming JJK edits on TikTok
>>288181055Haruhi isn't even moe, that's retarded. Not that it would be an issue if it were, mind you. But it's not quite this type of show, it's more about Tanigawa's latest nerd thoughts.
>>288155105>hasn't been relevant for 20 years>BREAKING: CHILDREN DONT KNOW WHAT THIS ISwow!
Super Driver > Bouken Desho DeshoTomare > Hare Hare Yukai
>>288155170Unless...ZA WARUDO!
Haruhi is just trash, it makes sense that it was forgotten. The zeitgeist doesn't care about slop like haruhi and kids nowadays are much more media literate then millennials were in the past honestly. People moved on to greener pastures.
>>288182149Cental limit theorem says you only need 30 samples before it starts converging to a normal distribution
>>288155105im gen z in my 20s and im aware of it but to this day i've never actually bothered with the series myself. partially cause i was literally a toddler when it was the big thing and partially because i just dont really get it and why older people are so attached to it. from what i hear the adaptation is beyond shit with its weird episode order and infamous season 2 and i honestly dont care about reading normal books so i'll probably never bother with the novels either. and when i see the famous dance and her singing in the bunny suit being praised as one of the greatest anime moments ever i just dont see anything that makes it stand out or makes me feel like i need to experience it. theres so much more anime now that i've seen over so many years so why do i have to go back to this one in particular? im not opposed to checking out older anime stuff but haruhi feels less like a special influential thing and more like a fad everyone just kinda jumped on for a while. to me its the same feeling i get from shit like hetalia or mirai nikki, i remember they were massive when i was growing up and discovering anime, then they vanished and i havent heard about them in years but i remember them sometimes like "oh yeah that was popular wasnt it". i get why something like evangelion for example got really big, and how it's still influential and remembered today, so i went back and watched it. so why should haruhi stand alongside shows like that?
>>288183838That only holds for independent observations. It can't intrinsically correct for selection bias procuring the sample.
>>288180386They look like a bunch of dorks here, like they try really hard to do their literally me persona. I guess it's because I don't pay attention to it when MC is the only one with spiky hair, slouched back and unbuttoned shirt, but when you put them all together it looks ridiculous, like they're on their way to physiotherapy to fix their lordosis.
>>288184277Gen-Zebra
>>288183633They're too different for me to compare but I very much like that Tomare gets appreciation, it's very underrated
>>288184277>the adaptation is beyond shitThe adaptation is actually about as great as you can hope for. They understand EXACTLY what makes the work great and what to do to leverage it. Muh Endless Eight aside (which can really just be skipped if you're not into the idea) it's really 95% perfect.>i get why something like evangelion for example got really big, and how it's still influential and remembered todayEvangelion got milked to death and it's also quite overrated and way worse than Haruhi.
