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Chartanon updated his chart
Pretty good chappy.
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God I LOVE evil women
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Why does the queen hold so much politcal power the king shits himself in fear?
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>>288160808
What did he change I'm retarded
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I really can't see what's been updated
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>>288160876
DEMON PUSSY
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>>288160808
The BEAST of Rummir is coming.
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>>288160894
nice try retard
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>>288160894
>tried to make an early thread last week
>tried to make THE thread this week
>both times unused
Deserved, also you said you wouldn't post in this thread.
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>>288160901
>leave julian to me
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>>288160808
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>>288160901
I can only see that baki pic... you know the one
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>>288160876
Amazing head?
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>>288160901
He and the other soldiers are just sacrifices for the princess. She and the maid next to her are the only real fighters.
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>>288160901
*blocks your path*
MEAT VS MEAT
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After scrolling through many threads, I've come to a realisation that Centuria doesn't have many memes.
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What horrors will she be subjected to in the future?
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>>288161004
The maid is apparently royalty too, maybe they're sisters. Or mother and daughter?
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>>288161004
I don't mean to do any shipping or anything, but I'm calling it, the girl on the left to the Void Marcher will fancy Julian.
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>>288161037
>half of these are mentioning the /wsj/ schizo
please remove those, don't give him the illusion people care about him in these threads
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>>288160808
Besides apologize, what does this doormat of a king even do?
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>>288161004
>when everyone's designs are so foddery you are sure they are dead
The actual discussion part of last thread was nice I like the weeks either hokazono or kuramori are on break, I don't need to split my attention.
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I hope the new action arc doesn't suck, kuramori isn't exactly... great at it.
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>>288160876
She holds the means of reproduction
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>>288161151
the last one gave us some great memes but it was quite the slog, you could've cut out nearly half the chapters and lost nothing of worth.
we wouldn't have the "fell for it again" pic but honestly that's a sacrifice i'm willing to make to improve the pacing.
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>>288161151
I've seen way worse action from veteran artists/authors currently being serialized.
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>>288161067
>inb4 she's the real gifted/blessed/cursed and the girl with a scythe is her living weapon like Helem and her puppets
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>>288160901
Imagine the huge hugs he could give when he joins the goat-party.
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>>288161090
Fucks the Queen for more kids even if he knows she will turn them evil due to her evil womb gift.
He is fucked.
That's why he made a lot of side descendants with black hair and gifts coming from him to manifest in right time and destroy Queen legacy.
We have 3 descendants of his in the cast already, Lucas, Helem and also Diana.
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>>288161179
COMMUNISM
NOW
OMEGAVERSE OR SOMETHING
KILL EVIL WOMEN
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>>288161037
>didn't include the pointing guy
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>>288161064
Could you replace it with a centipede tattoo?
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>>288161151
What? He's great at it.
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>>288161280
Come on anon, his action is stupidly stiff and the choreography/panelling during action scenes isn't good.
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So we know Arkos fucked his maid, did he fuck Ceodric too for fun and even deeper degradation to show dominance?
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>>288161299
Did you even read the manga.
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>>288161344
You just showed a panel where the action doesn't make logical sense and the character is as rigid as it gets.
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why is she so evil
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>>288160855
>that haughty. evil look
Please, Lady Berta, spit in my mouth!
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>>288161395
I accept your concession.
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Who started the Rummir-Torivia war
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Why do the physical English Centuria volumes take so long to release? Like 3 months between each one? Why?
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"Evil women/woman" was used over 30 times in the last thread. I think we have a cultural problem.
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>>288161484
Very true, our culture is starved of evil women
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>>288161479
Isn't that normal in english? I buy kgb volumes too and they take about that long.
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>>288161484
You're right, we should post good women instead. I'll start with...uh...
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>>288160808
>shif la cyrus
Assuming Cyrus is the royal family's name, that would mean sun, which would be a contrast to the moon theme with the goddess and Diana. Also fits for the fire power.
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>>288161543
>good women
Angvalt?
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>>288161609
you mean the rummir slaughterer?
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>>288161598
It's Scyrus tho
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>>288161654
Rummers....
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The Witches are all going to be good(Good as opposed to Evil) women. You heard it here first.
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>>288161609
>miserly
>killed a fine man of rummir
>genetic freak
>beacon for lesbians
>saved titi who is evil
She's evil too
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There is a severe deficit of centuria fan art
Why is this? Not enough fujoshi perhaps...
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>>288160901
Investing in BeastCoin, get in quick
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>>288160808
>helem still not considered bloodline of the king
>when she already said she's a descedant of him plus has the same face and eyes as him
explain yourself chartanon
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>>288161774
Centuria is not... exactly super popular, especially with women who are behind most fanarts. (getting lots of views doesn't mean you are popular)
Also a + series so even worse for that stuff.
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>>288161852
She said she's a distant relative, which likely includes most people in the palace. Only direct bloodline is of relevance.
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>another arc of useless titi
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>>288161774
Centuria gets fanart every week.
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>>288161598
And the eye theme.
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>>288161934
come to think of it, she may be the only woman who is not evil in this manga
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>>288161984
Why does everyone want to fuck Helen?
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>>288161344
So why does she have her arm out in a stabbing motion but the guy took a slash from the top of his shoulder? If she was stabbing or slashing through him with that motion, the wound on him makes no sense.
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>>288162100
She has seeded a bunch of mud dolls into this thread and they can't help lusting for her.
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>>288161934
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>>288162102
She didn't use her blade at all, it was a feint. She actually slashed with her tail after running past him.
Now, you might ask: Where's the blood on the tail? It was such a quick slash that it splattered off from it, as is evident from the gushing wound.
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>>288161463
This new squad really seems beyond hope
Our medalists were the cream of the crop
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>>288162102
You really had to reply twice?
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A wholesome family unit.
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>>288162205
you'll see when the BEAST will FEAST
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>>288162185
You see blood in front of her though (or at least I think it's blood).
>>288162220
Not the same guy.
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W-witch hunt?
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>>288162340
Who are you trying to fool here.
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>>288161543
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>>288162572
that's a boy, calling it now
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>>288162435
Is that how Lalawig sees the world?
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>>288162572
My theory is that she's the one who gives out immortality, on King's orders. Would you drink from the cup?
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>>288161543
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>this series has nothing but evil women
what's this crab fucking problem?
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>>288161037
Top left should have the cage placeholder in it
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>>288161484
>why are people talking about evil women so much?
>meanwhile in the manga:
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>>288161090
Keeps the true evil in check
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>>288161543
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>>288162716
I can fix them
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>>288162810
Neil my love.
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>>288162810
all lesbians are evil
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>>288162716
wait till you lean about female crabs
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>>288162716
Elstri and Lalawag are people who are trying to do good
However
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>>288162716
He's Fujimoto's disciple after all.
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>>288162259
She has big hands
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>>288163092
uuuu
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>>288161047
She's going to die with the Centuria Smile in Lukas' arms.
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>>288161315
>So we know Arkos fucked his maid
Do we?
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>>288163092
If I held them would she blush?
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>>288161543
>>288161609
Sea Mommy has done literally nothing wrong. Yet.
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>>288163424
It would be extremely painful
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>>288160855
Hey! That's my wife you're posting!
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>>288161261
Anon.....you've got it all wrong, that wasn't what he was referring to.
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Damn did the release thread fly by this quickly? I will say I was not expecting things to escalate like this. Am excite.
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>>288162716
He suffers from a chronic condition called: "being based"
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I wonder why this particular title attracts such a following on /a/. Are people just this starved for dark fantasy?
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>>288164246
Because it's good?
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>>288163422
Speedreader
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>>288164246
I’m enjoying how much of the villain side we get to see in this, and the story seems like ost being led on a good path so far.
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>>288164246
It's part dark fantasy, part battle shounen, and all the women are evil, so it has mass appeal here.
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>>288164477
Wonder why Witch and the Beast never really took off here since it has both evil bitches and stylish action too.
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>>288162716
Gimme more monsters, Kani.
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Did this dude just do a chuckle and wink
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>>288163811
Damn it... I got the timing wrong...
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My guess is that the King was a Hero/General and the Queen is from the Royal family and actively going after her would end up causing a civil war.
>>288164810
That's just his face.
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>>288161004
which formidable warrior is gonna receive a 'fell for it again award' first this time?
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did nothing wrong
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>>288161004
Is Rummir a country that’s like a cult of the Unseeing Eye? Everyone is covering their eyes
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>>288165220
How many kids?
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>>288165535
There is a limit?
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>>288165138
All of them when the two evil women in the front sacrifice them for some bullshit powers to counter Miss Schizophrenia's cloning powers (and I guess Julian and Luka will do something too).
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>>288165220
Half the time an image gets posted of Arkos, Lacrima, or the queen i literally cannot tell them apart.
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real scream hours
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>>288164246
It has good characters and they're used well in the plot, that's it strongest appeal IMO.
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>>288165443
Normal civilians didn't seem to do so
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>>288164519
It looks gayer than anal sex, I feel a physical sense of revulsion looking at it. Like I was reading shoujo about 'bishis'.
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>>288166248
That face is creepy. The crab managed to make me NOT attracted to an evil woman for five seconds here so I have to give him credit for that.
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>>288166248
So… this is the power of the photoshop liquify tool.
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How bad will it be when the king finally has had it and snaps
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>the prince does whatever the fuck he wants to the point of causing diplomatic issues
>his prophet is on a massive fuck up journey with evil woman (forma de necrodyke)
>the single most important logistics/resource in the nation is already fucking insane
>the only thing to his name is holding back evil woman numero uno abd he still wont be able to control it
>can't even control his own wife

Bros... is he incompetent?
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>>288166248
She just looks kinda goofy there, instead of inhumane and deranged like probably was the artist's intent.
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>>288166671
we still haven't seen the church, how evil will they be
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>>288160808
King in this chapters looks like he member of Sith species from Star Wars
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>>288165220
Imagine the dick flattening session every night.
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>>288166671
>>288166698
He's pretending to be incompetent (he has some keikaku).
He's really lost his edge by the evil queen.
He's lost the immense power he once had, so he can only do what an ordinary king would do.
Hmm...
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I like the idea that the king has absolutely NO powers left and he's running on aura alone. Even his face being a permanent shadow isn't his own ability. If anyone tried to kill him it would be easy but no one dares to because everyone just assumes he's still as powerful as ever.
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there he goes
Mr. Ken Turia
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>>288161090
He fucks evil women.
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>>288162100
Hot, pure heart, acts tough but is actually a good girl
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>>288166762
this is a dark fantasy manga inspired by berserk and the witcher, it's like a 99% chance the church is super evil and would burn our heroes at the stake if they had a chance
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>>288167821
What's the bet the church is filled with evil women?
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>>288167821
>this is a dark fantasy manga inspired by berserk and the witcher, it's like a 99% chance the church is super evil and would burn our heroes at the stake if they had a chance
>the church actually turns out to be le good
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>>288160876
she raped him 24/7 for the entire 100 years of his life and now end up with a literal army of ef evil gifted children (or just politically powerful even if not gifted)
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>>288160901
is rummir supposed to be jeets or something? whas with the turbans?
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>>288167888
church will be where all the evil men that hate women are
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>>288161861
the crab needs to start a bromance arc between julian and lukas then
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>>288166762
We have seen one character from the church
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>>288167888
If that evil fire nun has left the church, then maybe it isn't such a bad organization after all
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>>288167888
It's Centuria. Do you even have to ask?
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>>288168009
>>288167937
>>288167976
Her design is church coded and her literal name is "HOLY GRAIL", it's the church of cunny
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>>288168075
what part of that is church coded? she just looks like the statue of liberty
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>>288168075
>her
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>>288168105
Church robes in anime are often plain/pure white, her design is more refined/simple than most of the others in the stratem too like she's trying to look dignified, particularly her hair as you would expect of a church representative, did I mention her Iris name?
>HOLY GRAIL
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>>288161774
>little appeal to fujos
>absolutely no appeal to coomers
>designs involve complex armor pieces and clothing that are too annoying to draw for 90%+ of all fanartists, instead of more typical Shonen designs that are made to be easy even for toddlers to draw

Of course, there's also the fact that it's not that big of a series, and it doesn't even have an anime yet, but the factors above contribute to it.
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>>288168075
Grail has brown skin, which is quite rare in this world and suggests an exotic background
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>>288168206
those spikes aren't dignifird and she's wearing a "sexy" skintight dress with evening gloves like avante garde lounge singer
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>>288168237
You should consider what reigons of the world with dark skin you would consider exotic, then consider what religion they have, it's often christianity or perhaps sit outside a local church and see which demographics are going inside, they often have dark skin. The Church is often known both in the real world and in anime for taking in orphans from all parts of the world and raising them
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>>288168299
*and grooming them
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>>288168347
Well in this manga that's the duty of the king probably what dealing with the church means, he probably has a yearly quota
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>>288166671
>peace negotiations with rummir
About that...
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>>288162100
>huge tits
>only character in the manga who displays having any kind of libido
>huge tits
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>>288168416
I think there will actually be peace with Rummir after this arc
>Organ and Bone Vessels will either be dead, both in Rummir/Torivia's control or in the Witch's Coven control if they scoop them up a the last minute so the contention over these will be resolved with the loser yielding at least for the forseeable future
>Rummir will lose their strongest gifted one and won't be eager to continue war
>Torivia will be pushed back from the border of Rummir and lose the gifted one hard carrying the war economy
Peace between the nations at that point makes more sense than continuing the war even if it's officially just a ceasefire for X years
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>>288168206
>she's trying to look dignified
She's dressed like a thai hooker
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>>288168235
>>little appeal to fujos
>>absolutely no appeal to coomers
>>designs involve complex armor pieces and clothing that are too annoying to draw for 90%+ of all fanartists, instead of more typical Shonen designs that are made to be easy even for toddlers to draw
this is all true for berserk, yet it's arguably one of the most popular anime of all time among fanartists (if not THE most)
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>>288168607
I'm not saying Boorus are everything but that is an incredibly delusional take anon, I wish it were otherwise
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>>288168582
Lalawag dying doesnt make the already infinite sources disappear. And no way Torivia will cede land to Rumnir when they are stronger. Rumnir strongest were no diff by a human and their prince lost to a 10 years old. Their capital was flooded and their armies were constantly routed in Zira flashback. This is like Israel vs Palestine but the King doesn't want to genocide them
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>>288161124
>xe wants to discuss the boring ass jump manga
LOL
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>>288168907
>Lalawag dying doesnt make the already infinite sources disappear.
What infinite sources? The reason there are infinite anything is because Lalawag keeps cloning them, as soon as she dies/stops cloning apples there are no more apples. They would run out of resources in weeks, even sooner depending on how much is destroyed in the battle. Pic related, it's been stated that without Lalawag the region is actually terrible to maintain
>no way Torivia will cede land
You're correct they won't "cede it" but a major war between the two nations in the border city and Lalawag dying will essentially destroy the threat on Rummirs border. The official border won't change but Torivia not having a staging ground on Rummirs border anymore is effectively being "pushed back". And with Torivia no longer needing to obtain Vuljas Organs after this which was stated as their main motivation for conflict Torivia has no reason to remilitarise the border especially now that their resources will be significantly more limited without Lalawag
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>>288162831
Hows that working out for you king?
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>>288164246
I like the level of dark fantasy it operates at. It's not rubbing your nose in it and trying to make you, the reader, feel miserable, but it's not shy either. Knowing when to restrain from going full miseryporn is a skill. Or I suppose given that we're in Jump+, the skill is more about how far you can push the boundaries.
On a tangential note, I will forever be disappointed that Witch and Mercenary dropped the initial dark fantasy premise and literally jumped a ship to JRPG land instead. Felt like a lot of potential just going up in smoke.
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>>288162102
It's an upward slash
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>>288169088
Yeah, I misread about the sources but Torivia exists far longer than Lalawag is around. Considering that she said she was reforming the borderland habitat for a while, I doubt Torivia core provinces depend on her economic output. The borderland will run out of resource and will have to be supplied by Torivia proper but their economy seems strong enough to support a small war against a weak country.

>Torivia not having a staging ground on Rummirs border anymore is effectively being "pushed back"
This is true if you are considering a conventional war but this settings have superhumans in it. Torivia doesn't need ten thousand soldiers, Arkos and Lalawag both defended the entire borders alone or with minimal support. The other gifted are not as strong as Arkos but they can easily be supported by a garrison force.

>Torivia no longer needing to obtain Vuljas Organs
Torivia invaded Rumnir for Vulja body parts. The bone was in Rumnir but they lost it during the first invasion. If Lalawag dies and they lost the bones, the entire Iris Stratum and Black Knights will be deployed to Rumnir to get it back or get the organs too.
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>>288169733
>Torivia doesn't need ten thousand soldiers, Arkos and Lalawag both defended the entire borders alone or with minimal support
The whole reason Lala went schizo was because of how many men she was sending to their deaths
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dont believe her lies
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>>288161419
She was just bored
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>>288169957
they were invading back then. Rumnir is a shadow of it former self
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>>288164246
it's a perfect story for /csm/ refugees
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>both lalawag and the void marcher want to absorb the other goddess parts
who will win the goddessbowl?
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>>288170811
The witches
I think it's obviously it will be the witches
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>>288170504
I’m in this post and I don’t like it.
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>>288164246
It kinda reminds me of teh same things that made GoT popular. There's a bunch of interesting characters with their own motivations and objectives that aren't just pushed aside to make room for whatever MC-kun is doing this week.
If we only got the POV from Lucas' group, it would be one of the most boring manga in publication, but becayse we get tidbits of what a lot of people are doing and planning, it feels very fleshed out and like things are moving.
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>>288166698
I think there's something else going on that keeps the king with his hands tied.
Or maybe he spoke to the night godess when they fough and was told a truth that mindbroke him into becoming a couch potato.
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>>288171586
Yeah, some people don't like it when we get a couple chapters from Helem and Elstri's perspective, but I like that Kani is willing to switch POVs so much
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>>288171094
But what will they do about Berta and Diana? If you have to kill one to get the goddess part, one would have to die. And I don't think the witches or goddess want that (and both were present in the prophecy).
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>>288170811
I wonder what her relationship with the previous bones woman was
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>>288171705
>first time someone totally unrelated to elstri and the prophesy tries to kill diana
poor people
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I wonder how the king fought the witches 400 years ago that they are still surprised by him flexing his power.
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>>288171810
in retrospect it's funny that they were all just chilling in the same room talking about business. kind of want to see more scenes of them, before they broke off their alliance
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>>288171784
I wonder how Julian will react to learning Diana actually is a demon child, he still has no idea right?
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>>288170811
Considering the prophecy it'll eventually be Diana.
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>>288171852
I really wonder what politicking sorceresses even did in the palace. They have their Unholy Capital and everything but all were present for Elistri's investigation (because they probably knew the Child of Prophecy had their goddess and were conspiring with Mira). I hope there's a proper flashback arc that explains all the dynamics.
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>>288161463
the queen organized a falseflag
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where's this twink now
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>>288171891
He probably has suspected there's something weird with her for a while but hasn't really admitted it until now
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>Read the previous thread
>Half of it is comfy discussions
>Then the latter just goes into full schizo with one schizo going on and on about some sophia messing with his centuria thread and he just accuses everyone of being a kgbfag.

Jesus christ man, it’s just going to get worse ain't it?
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>>288172795
Next week he'll just spam the thread with non comments, don't worry.
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It's time for our attack RummirCHADS let's wreck these jobbers.

>>288160876
It was the same with the biblical King Ahab, the power of a nagging wife is too much.

>>288161395
the sense of momentum here is good. "Minamoto no Ushiwakamaru Battling with the Brigand Kumasaka". It's a very Japanese style.

>>288161984
kino
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pic rel was funny too, absent fathers man...

>>288167619
>pure heart
>vegeta.png

>>288168607
the third one is maybe true

>>288172795
just ignore the schizos and they'll quit
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>>288161598
Rummir is Persia, Torivia is Rome.
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>>288164246
It feels like it has a level of planning that you don't normally see in a weekly manga. Plus evil women.
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>>288172297
I’m surprised he showed up again, Arkos must really like him
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So what is Titi's role in all of this?
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>>288173829
Yes.
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Kenturia is #1 on Jump+ this week.
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>>288172795
>>288173092
The schizophrenia is more ingrained than one might think, but no point in feeding it indeed.
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>>288172795
shut up sophia
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>>288167910
It really depends on whose church it is. Rummirians seem to worship the eye of Vulja that they have received (makes me wonder if there'll be a hand too), but I'd be very welcoming of a good aligned church. But don't mistake it with reddit's idea of good. Burning evil women at stakes is a good deed in this story.
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>>288168582
Void Marcher dies. Lalawag dies. Diana absorbs them. With nobody to take over Rummir's throne, Ceodric is forced to return, perhaps that's what the King has come to talk about, other than the duel.
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>>288171652
I'm sure Berta will readily give her life for Diana (Vulja).
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You have to consider that the vessels can transfer the goddess parts without dying.
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>>288174426
A lot of parts are converging. Are we already building the Diana Exodia?
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>>288161047
>"I don't want to be a girl anymore. I want to detransition."
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Mark my words, the King is the Centuria dude but from the future.

MARK MY WORDS.
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>>288174554
People have been saying this since chapter 5.
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>>288174554
It's just julian's distant relative or something.
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Reminder that Mira was evil too. All women are evil or become evil. It is an inevitability.
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>>288161047
Those are funerary flowers. She is about to die.
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>>288160855
What if Berta turns out to be, rather than evil, the kindest, sweetest, most morally sound and goodly woman in the mango?
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>>288168576
>>only character in the manga who displays having any kind of libido
I am Lacrima and WTF is this?
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>>288173829
Cocksleeve for Julians 100x cock.
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>>288175919
Wake up, Titi, you're dreaming.
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Mira was Lukas' mom. He's also siblings with Diana, what a coincidence!
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>>288162351
Next arc. Trust the plan.
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>>288174932
Yes, that is the whole point of the current duel. To heal her so she doesn't die from using her power.
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>>288176117
She will probably die, despite that. Girl has more deathflags than Lalawag and Zana, and with a healer around, there are no stakes.
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>>288176180
>with a healer around, there are no stakes.
I doubt she can heal decapitation
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>>288176180
bet your lung?
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>>288176234
If anon is lying, may death take away his girlfriend.
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>>288170811
Can lalawag propagate goddess parts?
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Coven wants Diana to collect all the parts and become a new incarnation, right?
Does that mean Berta or Grandma will come to help this time?
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>>288176546
>and become a new incarnation
Is that stated somewhere?
The goddess is still there inside of the King's basement, so I assume the witches just want to shove all parts inside of her so she'll be "whole" again, and that might include backstabbing Diana in the end.
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>>288176355
What girlfriend?
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>>288176546
Berta is to busy being gapmoe snuggling with me in bed.
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>>288160878
Best girl. Every other woman is too confident and experienced. Feels like the sort of girl who would be a stuttering beet red mess during sex even after 10 years of marriage. Adorable.
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>>288161218
No need anymore. She has enough children can bed her own children with each other or herself.

I assume the Queen is involved with the Witches & Goddess. No other way the King would tolerate so much shit otherwise.
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>>288160876
>Why does the queen hold so much politcal power the king shits himself in fear?
>the king:
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>>288161934
People like her are incredible strong. I'm not saying this because she's a woman. The tenacity to keep going with everyday life under such circumstances and the oppressing feeling of helplessness looming every second over you is nothing short of amazing.
I wouldn't be able to do it, and act recklessly and frustrated all the time.
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>>288162716
The granny is pretty hot. Hope for lewds once this gets popular enough for an anime.
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>>288161151
As long as he doesn't stretch it.
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>>288177241
Good tastes.
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>>288161299
The powers themselves are pretty cool for the most part though, which makes me look forward to the fights.
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>>288161543
>post girl that just want her family to be happy and pretend she is evil
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>>288160808
What is the queen anyways? Everybody seems to hate the bitch, but nobody seems to do anything about her. Is she literally the castle?
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Any ideas about the cause of the original Lacrima's death?
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>>288177911
Mommy
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>>288177937
Why would she do it if she's using her kids to leverage political power?
It makes no sense.



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