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nene will avenge nini
>>288198761>Two hair color, like QueeNobu
>>288198818...well that sure was a nothing burger.>inb4 "all chapters are nothing burger"
>>288198840sexy Iko hips..
Lemon is a hot mess.
>>288198912...sigh>ZIP
>>288198912SEEEEEEEEEEEXXX
>Just what is different from back then?>My clothes?>The location?>The fact I just talked to you on stream earlier as Apollo?>The fact I told you I love you as Apollo?>The fact I'm Apollo?>I'm Apollo btw>I'm Apollo btw
>>288199072pussyjuice
>>288198890>This Christmas cake you put the time and effort into baking for me out of the kindness of your hearts is worthless because it's one minute after ChristmasWhat a jerk...
>>288198912>no ZRlame
>>288199100>Rikka cockteasing again, just to fold like house of cards on the next page
>>288199152I would agree if it was her fault, but she got interrupted on purpose by Nobu.
Break next week
>>288199192>give a snif>panel centers on her ass
>>288199192Sniff this butt, Arisu-kun.
>>288199225>Break next weekFucking really? God damn.
This entire chapter makes my pp hard.
>>288199229>>288199245I'd certainly sniff it
>>288199225>Break next weekDon't worry, theres enough fap material in this chapter to last me a month.
I AM MADLY IN LOVE WITH IKO....!!!!!!!!!
>>288198866>>288198992Nene's cuteness is going to be death of me.
When did Iko became the queen of sexo of this group?
>>288199157>>288198883today, we're blessed
>>288199157>Nobu didn't get on his back, because she's to fat
>>288199277Reminds me of the time Kirisu Mafuyu got speech bubbles pointed to her ass.
>>288199369bookie...
>>288199292But do you have enough mayonnaise for all of it?
Can Buki just fuck Lemon, so she gets of his back.
>>288198965Since when was Shinobu that big?
>>288199510Lemon's soulmate is a fellow teacher. She's just been playing hard to get.
You can only pick one.
Hizumi, Idol chan and Gold Digger chan should crash the party.
>>288199591She's closer to the camera. She's also a big girl
>>288199605Nene for me
>>288199605Nene!
>>288198788>lemonGREAT chapter
>>288199605NENEENE
>>2881996474u
>>288199225>In bed together againForeshadowing
Iko is right to feel robbed.
>>288198761I'm dumb, what does modern literature have to do with anything
>>288198840>Shinobu snucked out of her house>Concerned dad calls police>SWAT breaks into Lemons house>6 people died that night
>>288199966The bullshit about what the author intended to convey when writing this and that poem. So in his way he is saying that he is really good at reading between the lines and understanding the true intent behind the words.
>>288199992Lemon is an adult and she knows Shinobu snuck out, so she would be responsible
>>288199605
>>288199369Too bad Bucky isn’t
>>288198912>shortyFunny considering Nene is most likely the tallest according to them with 160cm. Iko is shorter but doesn't look like a midget standing next to them.
How are we feeling, fellow neneslavs?
>>288200671>Tallest>160cm
>>288199100Stacy Rikka
>>288200689Yup. Supposedly few centis above the avarage female height in nipland.
>>288200221Because there wont be harem ending.
>>288200687Dobrý den, very good.
>>288200689Nevertheless ...
>>288200689Yes. The others are even shorter.
>>288200921>womanlets
>>288199125>Shinobu: interrups Rikka>Rikka:
>>288199225>Timeskips to morning>Everyone is naked>Even Lemon>Arisu doesn't remember anything>Only 1 wrapped up condom
>>288199605it's really hard, but I must choose Rikka, she's my type, Nene is a really close second
>>288198729Meh, I dislike it when Igarashi reuses the volume cover for a color page slot.
>>288201358The chapter itself is still 20 pages
>>288198840So once again, conflict is introduced and then handwaved away a chapter or two later. Characters aside, the way this story gets from A to B has consistently not been good.
>>288201375I meant as wanting some new colored stuff
>>288201569Ah, my bad missed the word color
>>288201563Unfortunately elimination is really the only logical way to write these mysteries. But if you like to keep everyone's hyphotethical chances up, then make the work end as soon as possible.
>>288201624NTA, but he could at least keep some tension and intrigue going for more than one or two chapters. Funnily enough, the last time this happened was during the last Shinobu-Nene arc.
>>288199072>>288199100Alright I'll give you this one, Rikkafags. That was hot. But god damn does everything Rikka does make her feel more and more like a red herring.
>>288198912Christmas sex. Christmas sex with all 4 tunas.
>>288200689>reading comprehension
>>288199605One shoulderless miniskirt santa tummyslut in the low twintails por favor.
>>288200912Nene could easily eat the other three, but she chooses not to.
>>288201268>1 used condom>5 naked womenNow there's the start of a good harem whodunnit. Alternatively, 4 used condoms and MC only having a couple of months to figure out which one he blew his load into before she starts showing.
>>288198937>No interest in women at all.Faggabuki...
>>288199992At last Arisu will get plenty of conjugal visits during his life sentence for killing 6 heavily armed police officers with nothing but his bare hands and some Christmas decorations.
>>288199943Why is Rikka embarrassed to wear that outfit, as if her usual uniform didn't already show more skin anyway?
>>288201747>does everything Rikka does make her feel more and more like a red herringI was tearing my hair out while reading those pages because of how hard Igarashi was bashing my skull in with that crap.
>>288201727Even that barely qualifies. The chances has to be equal more or less, so one girl can't really one up the other. Nene looked like a Saint among all the Nobu jealousy, then cue to Nene actually being sad all the time because Nobu got Arisu's attention and not her. Where was the tension in all this?
>>288200912Those slavs genes are powerful.
>>288201953I can't help but think I would like her a lot more if it weren't so in your face. The very realistic world where she wins would feel incredibly unsatisfying because there's never been so much as a hint of subtlety. It's always so fucking overt with her.
>>288199605Iko's by far the worst looking one in the bunch
>>288198992>The designated tsundere is somehow better at being a playful tease than the girl whose entire gimmick revolves around that.What purpose does Rikka even serve at this point?
>>288198912Rikka pantyhose...
>>288199605Nene.
>>288202085Honestly, this chapter was the first time we've seen in a hot minute where Rikka actually pulled off the teasing schtick pretty well. Still, she continues to get absolutely fucking mogged by Nene. Even her attempt at twintails is painfully inferior.
>>288201991>Where was the tension in all this?The strain between Nene and Shinobu's relationship is mainly what I'm referring to. Of course that was quickly resolved in the last chapter of the arc.
I love Nene
>>288202200There can't be a strain cause that would make one or the other look like a designated losing heroine so they have have to be good sports about competing between each other. Same potential was there with Iko and Rikka doing the composition for her but she didn't go snek mode, neither shittalked her song, neither used her song and presented it as her own to Arisu.
>>288198992Sightly more subtle hint than Rikka received, paralleling "I'm wearing this for you alone" with "those words were meant for you alone".>>288199100So overt that it's mind-numbing. Like the post said, it's just "Hey, aren't you totally flustered because of Apollo? Look at me, I'm Apollo!" I'm more convinced than ever that she's pretending to be Apollo to ingratiate herself with Arisu, and that she was the other person listening to Midnight Heart Tune last chapter. >>288199225Yet another instance of Iko, Arisu, and a bed, paralleling the late night conversations between Arisu and Apollo. If Shinobu got any form of hint in her interaction with Arisu here, I didn't really pick up on it.
Didn't read last 12 chapters, who's winning?
>>288202302>>288199192Actually, I guess you could take the way Shinobu got directly in Arisu's face as a call back to Apollo stating that she wants to look at him up close. But that feels kind of impotent compared to the way Iko did so when she was initially introduced.
>>288202355Popularity poll nāmba wan.
>>288202274Nene was clearly the designated losing heroine throughout that arc and the manga in general. The intrigue there was to see how Nene was going to resolve her feelings of loss towards Shinobu.
>>288202402A shit
>>288199605Nobu. That outfit exudes sex.
>>288198912Who cares who Apollo is? A real Yamabuki would impregnate all four of these semen demons.
>>288202274>There can't be a strain cause that would make one or the other look like a designated losing heroineYup. Even if it's not true that they're going to lose, the most obvious instance of this is Ichika. She was never considered a likely winner, but after she ate the Hebi Hebi no Mi, even her most diehard supporters knew that she didn't have a fucking snowballs chance in hell.
nenebros...
>>288198912Please sit on my face Rikka>>288199192She wants us to sniff her butt?
>>288202420Stay mad, faggot.
>>288199148+1
I'm surprised no one has made the joke yet
>>288202697Half the thread is too busy masturbating.
>>288202697love Lemon!marry Lemon!bay-making sex with Lemon!
>>288202816>bay-making sex with Lemon!>bay-makingGOJIRA
>>288198912Sexxxxooooo>>288199100Does everything actually hint towards Rikka the most?
>>288202460My headcanon is that Negi saw how she was 4th in the poll, so he picked her. Supposedly her reason was that she needed a villain for the arc and picked Ichika as Miku and Yotsuba wouldn't do it and Itsuki and Nene already had a phase like that. Having said that my issue with Ichika is that her plan was retarded for starters and how Negi portrayed her with those edgy faces as if she actually lost her mind and enjoys making the life of her sister as miserable as possible. And the whole thing started because she was a dishonest cunt but had the gall to tease Miku about her obvious crush.
>>288202858
>>288202405I don't think so. Nene applied to the school first, but Nobu got the attention cause she sucked and was jelly. I for one believed Nene would have some reward for her patience and enduring how Nobu hogs Arisu, but it turned to a ruse and Nene was also jelly all the time. So the two evened out.
>>288198818>Rikka wore her slutty school uniform all the way thereHeh
>>288198840Iko is uncharacteristicaly sexy today.
>>288200671It's Japan. 160cm is tall for women there.
Lemon needs to face consequences for her actions
>>288202990I suppose I never interpreted Shinobu as being jealous. That and Nene is always the one that has to push if she wants to get anywhere with Arisu whereas the other girls, especially Shinobu, don't have that problem.
>>288203159How dare she present her expired eggs in this manga
>>288202911>My headcanon is that Negi saw how she was 4th in the poll, so he picked her. Supposedly her reason was that she needed a villain for the arc and picked IchikaNegi is a man, but I'm pretty sure most people would agree with this. It's less headcanon and more fact that we can infer from his own statements. Though I'll never understand why exactly he felt like Kyoto needed a villain. If it was specifically to spur on Miku, I think it could have been done in a number of other ways. It also didn't end up feeling especially impactful because for the remainder of the manga Miku only got two or three scenes where she was actually, finally proactive. And by then it felt very much like too little too late.
>>288203157I have no issue with that. I only find it funny that the supposed shorty probably not that much shorter but still gets called out as shorty. Say she is 152 but the 155 calls her shorty.
>>288203286Funnily enough I'm pretty sure she IS 152cm. I think she's started to be 5 foot even in the English translation, which is almost exactly 152cm. So yeah, she's shorter than the average Japanese woman. By literally an inch. And even Nene is only 5'3.
>>288203285Manga sucked ass in the latter parts. liked Scrambled Eggs, but the kisser stuff was the most annoying crap that came out of it and still a bullshit but whatever. IMO if the manga went on longer I proposed the idea that the fitting punishment for Ichika would've been the sisters moving out from the home she bought after what she did to Miku till she breaks down from the loneliness and apologizes after some time have passed from her actions. But she immediately had to do a forced apology tour and had to be forgiven because Yotsuba's flashback was on the corner and this plot point was in the way of showing dark Yotsuba.
>>288203208>I suppose I never interpreted Shinobu as being jealous.Anon, you have to either be blind or forgetful to not think that she was jealous.
>>288198912privaty...
>>288202990To be fair, Nene had already gotten one over on Shinobu by duping her out of sharing a room with Arisu during the Training Camp arc. The two have them have been established as competitive with one another specifically ever since then. Being jealous of one another and trying to make time with Arisu, even potentially at one another's expense, is a pretty key aspect of their relationship.
>>288203103>uncharacteristicallyWhat the fuck manga have you been reading? My daughter is a god damn sex goddess.
>>288203726
>>288203821>gacha shitRope.
>>288203956I'm a gachachad and I love Nene.
>>288203956Everything is gacha now, bud.
>>288203805I don't think parents should think their children are sexy.
>>288204009I didn't always feel that way. I just wanted her to find love and happiness. But my daughter is such a sinful temptress that I can't help it.
>>288203746IIRC Nobu cockblocked Nene with Arisu in bed there, so she couldn't accept losing that game where they decided who gets to share to room with him.
>>288204107Yeah, she was most definitely trying to keep Nene and Arisu from getting too close. The two are always competing with one another. Shinobu is probably a little bit less underhanded just because she at least encouraged Nene to acknowledge her feelings for Arisu by admitting to her own.
>>288199016>>288199042>>288199157Feet!
>>288199225>Will I really be able to survive this Christmas night?A real Yamabuki would impregnate all of them and take responsibility. Including Lemon.
>>288199192Not so subtle, eh?
>>288198912>Nene is huge into cosplay>Always complains when she has to do it
>>288204593She even has skimpier cosplay.
>>288198912>Iko: Let's fucking go!
>>288204593She likes doing it on her terms.
>>288204634...but she had no problem forcing Rikka into her sluty cosplays.
>>288204663And that's a good thing!
Lame, where's is mistletoe?
>>288204663Nene being a bit a hypocrite is 100% in line with her character writing throughout literally the entire manga. See the above discussion about her fucking over Shinobu to room with Arisu, then consider that later on in the manga she becomes depressed at the thought of Shinobu doing the same to her (in her mind). She's extremely wishy-washy in general. Pretty textbook, classical tsundere behavior.
>>288204663I don't see the contradiction?
>>288198912OH GOD SHINOBU HAS LEGS FOR DAYS UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNF
Another break sucks. Doesn't he know that depriving me of Nene for a week is akin to psychological terrorism?
>>288198912>>288198965>shinobuHostess.>rikkaConcert cosplay (another one).>neneWould only wear it for her bf (admitting it here >>288198992)>ikoEnkou pet play for fat ojii-san.Nene wins this round. Shinobu is the hottest, though.
Are you guys ready for Rikka's victory?
>>288199125Base Nobu spooking that skank.
Nene will win.
>>288199100Rikka is playing as the red herring again.
>>288205100I dunno, lets ask Hizumi for her opinion.
>>288199192OH GOD
>>288205104>Base NobuWill Shinobu become the legendary Super Saiyan? Find out next time, on MayoTune Z!
>>288199605In a vacuum, Nene. In this specific instance, Shinobu wins out.
>>288205190Yes, that’s how weak Rikka is. Nobu only needs her base form to deal with her.
>>288199072That is some kind of honey, right?
Where's mistletoe? Did Nene used her best lipstick for nothing?!
>>288205355>honey>tastes like some kind of fish sauceYep
>>288198912Rikka(pigtails) is by far the prettiest. Shinobu's ass is practically hanging outNene is not physically attractiveIko looks like a hooker
>>288205507>Nene is not physically attractiveWhat are you, gay?
>>288203805Father in law!I can confirm she's a sex goddess.
>>288205507I agree Nene's costume is not lewd enough. Bucky would have come in his pants if she and Shinobu swapped costumes.
>>288205135She doesn't show it but she's Rikkasexual.
>>288201038No, no. Rikka will use this to make her next song.When she wins and becomes the wife she'll make a ton of songs.
>>288198992When did Nene learn to just big dick it around Arisu? Outmatch his confidence with her own has done wonders.
>>288205658Since school trip. She owned him so hard then, and changed the balance of powers.
>>288205658When her tsun broke.
>>288205569I'll forgive you if you choose not to marry her, Arisu-kun. She'll make an excellent daughterwife.
>>288205507>>288205554Even a literal homosexual would acknowledge how beautiful this girl is. I'm pretty sure anon's dick just doesn't function.
>>288205694Quite literally this exact moment. It's been an onslaught of dere punctuated by brief moments of adorable tsun ever since.
>>288205779>It's been an onslaught of dere punctuated by brief moments of adorable tsun ever since.My favorite kind of tsundere endgame.
>>288205792It's exactly the reason people liked Nino. It hits different when a tsundere says "fuck it" and just goes balls out, embarrassment be damned. Though I still never really viewed Nino as a tsundere so much as.. well, just a huge bitch. Early Itsuki fit that definition a more more. But the principle is the same.
>>288199192>>288199229>>288204564lol
>>288205843I never read or watched 5toubun.
>>288198912>slutty cosplay>>288198992rubbing herself all over him>>288199072having him suck her finger>>288199157putting his head between her thigs>>288199192>flirting with him while his head is between another girl's thighsThese girls are all so thirsty and I love it.
>>288206126Nino was a hateful cunt who literally drugged the protagonist on two occasions and treated him like a pariah for half the manga. When she finally accepted her feelings, she more or less confessed on the spot and started working Futaro even harder than Nene has worked Arisu. We're talking deliberately walking in on him in an onsen, fully prepared to bathe with him. She was all over him and acted thirstier then a man trapped in the desert. Her popularity pretty much immediately skyrocketed.
>>288206164>flirting with him while his head is between another girl's thighsShinobu is trying to make a power play because she knows Iko is Apollo and needs to get a leg up.
They should all just gang up on him and rape him.
>>288199605If I pick Shinobu, will she breastfeed me?
>>288206207Yeah, I think I'll take Nene over that even I have to admire Nino's moxie.
>>288198818I cried imagining attending a data conference filled with the brightest minds and researchers, feeling totally outclassed. Then I entered the Mayonaka Heart Tune thread and read the chapter laughing at the dumbest cucks who every week jump to incorrect conclusions based on their misinterpretations of obscure panels to validate their end view of the narrative.Then I laughed and cried some more knowing that the people who hope Iko, Rikka, and Nene will win always are wrong and dumb. Bittersweetly, they'll stay by my side for 100 more chapters, reminding me that it's better to surround yourself with people smarter than you, as the aforementioned are easy pickings.
Nene was never that much of a cunt.She's lovely.
This one goes to my denial & hope fags folder. See you on the collage.
>>288206409>socially incapable autist cries over an imagined scenario before proceeding to exposit that he's at least better than all the inferior dullards on 4chan who have fun coming up with theories for how their favorite girl in a notably stupid manga might win a harem horse race Thanks for sharing with the class, anon. What makes you think we give a shit?
>>288206410>She's lovely.True!
>>288206410She did judo throw Arisu into a pile of broadcasting equipment that one time. That was pretty notably cuntish.
>>288198840>>288198866What the hell guys? The arc didn't end and they're all throwing a Christmas party for Arisu? Where is the conflict I read about in English class? This mystery sucks! I thought only Rikka could be panting because she's singing, or Iko because she's jogging outside like in her previous hit stream to the Sky Tree, or Nene for pushing herself while voice acting, or even Shinobu jumping out a window? You mean they all rushed over to Arisu to throw the surprise party they planned together? But Iko's now "loading message" definitely was a hint for Apollo because Apollo's broadcast started right after?
>>288206573>But Iko's now "loading message" definitely was a hint for Apollo because Apollo's broadcast started right after?I didn't think about this. The verbiage could easily be chalked up to Iko's digital autism, but it's fun all the same. Nice catch.
>>288206558He kind of deserved that one for being tactless, but she hasn't really resorted to violence that often since then.
>>288198818>>288206573Huh. She even looks more winded than the others. Granted she's in the worst shape, but I guess you could stretch it to say it suggests that she had to run to catch up after the broadcast. It might also track that her phone was close to dying if she was using it for her stream, but we've seen that she generally uses a tablet for that.
>>288206640Assuming the anon in question was saying that in reference to the prior post about Nino, Fuutaro was a way bigger asshole then Arisu has ever been. And infinitely more tactless to boot.
>>288198912>Nobu escapes her family>Immediately dons a whore outfit>In grave danger of becoming the town bicycleI can understand her family's concern...
TOBUN NIGGERS OUT
>>288206664look at her go!
>>288198866>here's a xmas cakestop teasing lemon...
>>288199605i will take Rikkashe looks perfect there
>>288206875It's an odd feeling knowing that I'm one of the few readers of Mayotuna who hasn't read that.
>>288206835>Nobu escapes her familyThat girl's mama ain't around, anon.
>>288206875Toubun niggers are the reason this manga exists.
Adult Nene is gorgeous.
>>288207487Unbelievably fucking pregnable.
>>288207531>star on her bellyhmmmm
>>288198729Is that the train to Ikebukuro or Shinjuku station? Or Harajuku?
>>288207646Samejima's child
>>288205779I sure hope Nene wins. Her adult form still thinking of her highschool crush like a maiden in love would be pathetic. Imagine having a GF and her showing the most brilliant, radiant smile you have never seen when thinking about her schoolgirl crush.
>>288207646Symbolism is a curious thing. >>288205554
>>288207780Faggot author will make all the loser girls be single for the rest of their lives pining after the guyWorst part about "harems"
>>288207780I'll be pretty much equally happy with an Iko or Nene win. Shinobu is too generic, and Rikka will feel too obvious to the point that it would be frustrating to have ever when pretended there was a mystery in the first place.
>>288207828Arisu is their producer. Don't you know what producers get up to with their talent? If Idolm@ster doujin is anything to go by, the answer is sex. Lots and lots of steamy, loli sex.
>>288207828>Worst part about "harems"2nd worse. The worst is the humiliation ritual towards the end when the MC chooses one. I hate that shit so much, it reduces the heroines to pieces of meat. 5toubun and its consequences have been a disaster for romcoms.
>>288207891Unfortunately true
>>288201563Most people are going to forget about this once the mistery is over and the whole story deflates as a result.When you watch something like Murder she wrote you can appreciate Angela Lasbury demeanour, her soft wits and graceful charms. With Columbo you know who the killer is, you watch it to appreciate the moment he breaks hims and try to understand just when did Columbo figure it out.Meanwhile in the recent chapter of an actual romance..
>>288205554>>288207802I never payed attention but that's a picture of the moon in the middle, right?
>>288207891>5toubun and its consequences have been a disaster for romcoms.What in the fuck makes you think 5toubun was the first series to do this? I'm guessing you never saw Momo Deviluke sobbing as her entire character motivation in TLR Darkness was explained away as being a lie because she wanted to be with Rito, who would never pick her over Haruna or her own sister. You honestly think Negi invented humiliation rituals? He just had the balls to see it through to the end; unlike Saki Hasemi.
>>288208029A moon accented with suspiciously seminal shooting stars, yes. And I believe the only time the full moon has been used to frame a major character moment in the manga, rather than the typical crescent moon.
>>288206409>I cried because someone in the room was smarter than me holy fragile
>>288207962>do you like this>I doautistic sweet talk
>>288199966When you were in literature class you would be asked to read a passage or a story and draw conclusions from it. The conclusion he would draw from his feelings and previous actions would show he still loves her even now in the present, but he doesn't want to admit it.
>>288207802cmon mangaka-san make it happen
>>288208305Personally I think her chances are better than ever. Hell, if you were to look at just the last two chapters in a vacuum, only Nene or Rikka could reasonably be Apollo. Of course Rikka feels so much like a red herring that when you consider the rest of the manga, this chapter is a boost for Nene while reinforcing the status quo for Rikka (e.g, seemingly obviously Apollo, but very likely just pretending to be by dropping incredibly overt hints).
>>288208388I.e, not e.g* Not like any of you fags care, though.
>>288199225>Foreboding weather If this was another manga I would expect something to happen to crash this party, but that would be pretty dark after Arisu so badly wanted to enjoy this party with them. It's foreboding for his attempts to keep his cool after getting excited about romance.
If Nene doesn't win I will burn the author's house...
>>288205355The honey is in the cake
>>288208873Be on the lookout for blushing Nene ears when/if this comes up.
>>288208388Maybe it's because I don't want to have hope that'll likely be dashed, but it still feels like it's between Rikka and Shinobu.
>>288199125Why is Shinobu clam jamming Apollo?
>>288199100urgh rikka
>>288205355fish sauce is salty you know
>>288198890>We were planning to surprise you... but something came up for all of us, so we had to delay it.>But there's no point if it's not even Christmas anymore.>On the other hand, this might just be perfect.>What do you mean?Shinobu's smug and happy because she alone got to celebrate Christmas with Arisu on her broadcast as Apollo. You could say that's selfish of her, but just when Shinobu thought she was doing well, Rikka came in and made her jealous getting so close to Arisu's lips. >>288199125
>>288207962ewwww what are they doing
Aside from Nene's supreme adorableness, Arisu's reaction is so incredibly autistic that it makes me laugh.
>>288210609The tiniest hint of Nene's ZR at the bottom of that panel gives me life. Igarashi didn't need to do that. He did it for the love of the game.
>>288205779funny thing about this chapter 84 eh, it's quite a parallel with when Chitoge's tsun broke too during the aftermath of the romeo juliet play.
>>288198992Lemon is right since she’s the second sexiest girl there after Nene
>>288211139Lemon's problem is that her desperation is palpable.
>>288211114I mean the difference here is that Chitoge was very obviously the main heroine, and the only reason Onodera ever had a shot was because she did well in popularity polls so the author was willing to let whomever took first place in the last one win. She baked a mean wedding cake, though.
the honey jar has a japanese label but the fish sauce bottle has a thai label, and people are saying it's honey ffs
>>288211356at least back in those days (a decade ago) harems didn't always end with losing heroines going through absolute humiliation rituals with no futures of their own. Even onodera married some rando and had a kid.
>>288211424It's just another example if Igarashi being away too overt with Rikka. It's obviously intended to evoke honey, and paired with her "Oh hey Arisu, why are you so flustered?" line of questioning is yet either reason that her being Apollo feels so obvious that she either has to be a red herring, or it'll be disappointing when she wins because it was just too on the nose.
>>288211356>>288211114that is true, Chitoge was always main girl from the get-go despite there being 5-6 other harem members added over 200 chapters. she's really the only one that ever had any character or development or growth anyway. but I was really just drawing parallels to the tsun breaking moments involving "I hate you".
>>288211175>Lemon's problem is that her desperation is palpable.More than palpable. Bitch advertises it.
>>288211470Onodera baking the cake for Raku and Chitoge's wedding is one of the most memed humiliation rituals in harem manga history. It was just flavored a bit differently back then.
>>288211476it feels like an itsuki bait.
>>288211497Just look at how fucking plappable this desperation is. God I wish I could fuck this hag.
wasn't someone saying last week that apollo was voiced by iko's voice actress?
>>288211510I felt the same way about Itsuki that I do about Rikka. Though the difference between them is that Itsuki was never shown to have the same level of romantic inclination toward Fuutaro as her sisters. She definitely would have entered into a relationship with him, but the other four were very much blatantly in love with him. Rikka on the other hand has been growing more in love with Arisu since the very first arc of the manga, and is head over heels by this point. Itsuki never really got to that point. She just liked Fuutaro.
>>288203821Would look so much better without the glasses. What a waste of a skin
>>288211524That appears to be the case in but Japanese and the dub, but I wouldn't take it as confirmation one way or the other.
>>288211568The rikka stuff has been nonstop onslaught since the very first chapter. like you cannot get more blatant and unsubtle than her saying 'I love you' at the very beginning, just moments after being shown Apollo saying it...
>>288211585to be fair, sayumin had like 40 roles in that season, so she was just apollo for fun.
>>288211582I'm not a glasses guy, but I thought she pulled them off well. It would be nice if you had the option to toggle them on/off though.
>>288211651>so she was just apollo for fun.Weird thing to assume when she's also voicing one of the main heroines of a series whose tagline is literally "Finding the girl behind the voice".
>>288211602>like you cannot get more blatant and unsubtle than her saying 'I love you'Yes you can. See her "secret track" and her quite literally bringing up the Apollo mission. You literally can not get more blatant than those. That's also why I think she's larping as Apollo to ingratiate herself with Arisu. I think she's banking on making him fall in love with her and eventually admitting that she made it all up. Easier to ask forgiveness, as they say.
>>288198729WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT MEN LOVE WOMEN? MUH FEMINISM TOLD ME THEY HATE ME WHILE I FEEL ENTITLED TO EXPLOIT THEM AND DONT SEE THEM AS PEOPLE
>>288211819what are the odds that she's the other listener
>>288211838Nigger what the fuck are you schizoing out about? Go back. >>>/pol/
>>288211859Pretty high, I'd say. That's why she knows Arisu has reason to be especially flustered. I mentioned earlier the if you look at the last two chapters in a vacuum, either Nene or Rikka must be Apollo because they both directly referenced the broadcast from last chapter. That necessarily means that one of them is the one who was listening in. But that's only in a vacuum, of course. Nene's hint this chapter was Rikka levels of on the nose because it was directly after Arisu remembered Apollo's words last chapter. So it isn't super compelling. Rikka's hints are long past being compelling. Iko getting another panel associating her being in bed with Arisu is the strongest hint of the chapter, IMO.
>>288207828I don’t understand most Japanese authors since they act like people in real life that are rich never have harems
>>288211945The harems rich people have aren't romantic harems filled with girls who are actually close friends.
>>288211175Her sexiness makes her desperation tolerable and the series would’ve been a lot better if his harem had to worry about Lemon’s sluttiness like in the beach chapter
>>288198912A man like Bucky who is superior like Bucky shouldn';t have to choose. As a superior male all of these females should be fine with a harem solution.
>>288198729mayonaka my beloved
>>288208047>He just had the balls to see it through to the end; unlike Saki Hasemi.That's probably the correct thing to do actually.I'm starting to realize things like Yuragi no Yuuna and Go toubun seeing it all the way to the end and doing a humiliation ritual where they remain single forever really turned a lot of people off of the harem genre.Like Nisekoi wasn't as brutal because at least there Onodera had a husband and daughter.
>>288212584>>288212584onodera realistically moved on from a childhood and high school kid crush that never amounted to anything even resembling a relationship. that's completely normal and natural and realistic. yes the cake thing was a form of humiliation ritual, but the manga never portrays it as her having deep regrets or feeling awful doing it.
>>288212584I like visual novels because even if there's a True Heroine, the other heroines will have their own routes. Although the best ones, for me, either have canon harem ends or no True Route nonsense.
>>288211902>other girl fags are so afraid of Rikka they want her to be the other listener.
>>288211519Dont, when a woman gets like this, they are a pain to deal with at best, and a abusing partner at worst.
>>288207891Senryuu Girl, the author's precedent work, became a harem all of sudden (just to pad out things), it felt so jarring how these girls decided they liked him and we had to waste various chapters just to see them getting a broken heart.
Justify why the girl who is "Apollo" would not tell him the girl right away knowing that it would put her ahead of every other girl?It feels extremely contrived.
>>288213499Do you even read the manga?, MC straight up told her not to reveal her identity
>>288213499because apollo already tried to do just that in chapter 15 but arisu prohibited her>>288213676LOL
>>288212584>Yuragi no YuunaThat was so meanspirited and evil.>everyone is on board with a harem end>shows the girls their future if he picks them>Chisaki spends decades thinking she won>every girl not only doesn't get another partner, they're actually miserable in all aspects of their lives>>288212723I like visual novels because the MC romances only 1 per route so the other heroines mostly don't give a shit and after the common route is over there are only romantic scenes with one heroine.
>>288199125>>288199192>>288199225what a snek, imagine if arisu or iko getting hurt because of her dumb approach
>>288213745>because apollo already tried to do just that in chapter 15 but arisu prohibited heryeah because otherwise the manga wouldve ended in ch 20
>>288214288iko and shinobu already jumped from the second floor in this comedy tagged FICTION
>>288214367storywise, this manga should have ended in 4 volumes. at most. but then we'd be robbed of igarashi's art and one-liner endings.
Nene victory
>>288199192Why are you showing your nape you slut
>>288199225What kind of Iko blob is that? Looks familiar with those slightly curved horns.
>>288213759Except the two never evers (oboro and hibari). They're hooking up
>>288215821those "horns" are her legs, she and arisu fell down head first
>>288216250Oh I see, she has those stubby legs like Anya. Forever Rudolph, but never Santa.
>>288199192His legs went out after checking out Shinobu's body.
>>288216529Understandable reaction
>>288198912How short is Iko? Is she imagine tier?
>>288198912Why is Nobu showing off her bare feet and fat thighs like this?Is she stupid?
>>288199192Doroboneko>>288199225Iko? Wonned
>>288218330>fat thighsThey're unusually slender in this panel
>>288207487Old hag.
If Shinobu I will post a Char's meme.
Last one for Rikka
Is it just me or is the image quality of these scans fucking horrible?Why does it look so scratchy and aliased?It can't be the resolutionThis is the quality people are paying for?
>>288199605nene
>>288207962I love these two dorks so much.
>>288220543Get the tanks for older chapters, you won't get anything better for simulpubbed ones, at least not without denoising. The "best" they've ever looked was before October back when they didn't go through extra compression because of the image scrambling, but even then it was barely any better. The difference between chapters from before then and after is mostly seen in the amount of noise around the text
>>288221229>The "best" they've ever looked was before October back when they didn't go through extra compression because of the image scramblingWhy did they implement image scrambling?>The difference between chapters from before then and after is mostly seen in the amount of noise around the textThe noise is the gray pixels around the text?
Another day, another Nene.
>>288222086>Why did they implement image scrambling?As a form of DRM against ripping. But as a side effect, since they export the scrambled versions of the pages with low settings, it doesn't matter if you descramble without any quality loss, as you still won't get the original data that was lost when they first scrambled it on their endUp until October there were still methods to get the original untouched images directly even if the scrambling had been implemented for over a year at that point, but this is no longer possible so we're stuck with the slightly worse version>The noise is the gray pixels around the text?Yeah, the blocky compression artefacts around edges in general, it's just especially noticeable around text
>>288221229I want these simulpubs to go bankrupt so we can go back to fan scansFucking assholes providing shittier quality than fans and then asking you to pay for them
>>288222434>Up until October there were still methods to get the original untouched images directly even if the scrambling had been implemented for over a year at that point, but this is no longer possible so we're stuck with the slightly worse versionWhy the fuck does nobody just get the script from the simulpub and put it on the better quality raws?You can easily down WSM issues on nyaa every week, just search WSM in moonrunes thereAre zoomers seriously this lazy that they don't even want to do something simple like this?
>>288212584>>288212641>Highschool kid crushHahahahahahhahaShe promised to marry him when she was 5 Cope cakefagsShe got creampied by a faceless bakerMeanwhile Marika's character was respected to the end
>>288223129Because it's not worth the effort. Most people don't care about the quality as long as it's readable.
>>288208047Momo was worst girlBut you Momocucks are obnoxious as fuckThe Momo thing was obvious from the start, her harem plan was a huge cope to hide her insecurities and if you weren't an idiot you would have noticed thatThe one that got screwed the hardest was LalaAll her character development gone because Hasemi didn't have the balls to make a decisionHe also showed Lala maturing only to then later have Mikan say Lala is childishAnd in the end he kept pushing contradictory messages from every angleIn one side he pushes the message of monogamy, and on the other side he pushes the harem thing via Lala saying that ''she believes Rito will make everyone happy''In the end the series didn't end and they said they would come back and do another series but never didThis clown and Yabuki can't commit to anything on the series
>>288207828>Why yes I want my waifu to be used goods slopGod you faggots are retarded
>>288223517>Most people don't care about the quality as long as it's readable.This is hardly readable, and this slop ends up on aggregators.I hate this enshittification of things so much.
>>288198866>Ximas
>>288222722Ironically scanlations could be even worse in this case, since the quality of the raws from Magapoke is atrocious. For a long time it was much worse than the English simulpub, though they upped the resolution to x1600 a few months ago to match the one from the WSM releases so maybe it's better now, but I'm pretty sure they still have terrible compression so it might still be worse than the x1378 English. The magazine rips themselves are probably cleaner, but x1600 isn't high to begin with>>288223129Just not worth the hassle for a marginal quality gain when you can just wait for the volume that'll be much better anyway. It's also not as easy, the text would look even worse since the resolutions differ so you'd need to scale up the English texts, which would make its artefacts even more visible (unless you re-typeset the whole thing yourself but have fun doing that). Even worse for stuff like >>288198912 with transparent bubbles where you'd also be copying the background patterns from the lower res English release (on top of potentially having to warp them to match seamlessly since the content within the pages isn't aligned between the raws and simulpub and the dimensions can differ even at the same resolution)You're infinitely better off just running the existing pages through a denoiser to clean them quickly if you care that much
I pay to read the chapters on Kmanga, ask me anything
>>288223923>ask me anythingWhy didn't you just download whole pack from nyaa.si?
I hope after christmas we have timeskip to valentines and white day, for more lovey dowey shenanigans.
>>288223879>since the quality of the raws from Magapoke is atrociousThe quality of the WSM raw issue uploaded on Nyaa is just fineThis scene is dead and it's all about e-peen speed releases now
>>288223923Do you like it raw or with lube?
BTW How come Kanokari releases aren't affected by this image quality issue?They are both on the same magazine and they are both simulpubbed by K-Manga. So what gives?
>>288224954A clear indication that people care more about Kanokari.
>>288214681All four of them jumped from about that height. Iko and Shinobu are just the ones that Arisu had to catch. I used to jump off the garage of my childhood home for fun. It's really not that hard if a jump to make. Dunno if my old ass legs could handle it now though, especially with my doughy ass torso on top.
>>288224954It's the same source, so any difference between the series would be from the official releases, who knows how they handle stuff internallyThough I'm looking at them now and they look just as bad so I'm not sure what you're talking about. They also regularly get fucked by censorship, at least this is something we don't have to deal with on Mayonaka
>>288224983They do? It always comes out censored(the Ruka scenes) and nobody bothered to fix them beyond 2-3 chapters.Kanokari gets lazy rips from K-Manga, it's just that for some inexplicable reason the image quality is fine, it's not noisy and grainy like MayonakaSo what the fuck is going on here?
>>288223667>This clown and Yabuki can't commit to anything on the seriesBlaming Yabuki for not wanting to commit to illustrating more if Hacksemi's terribly-written bullshit is psycho behavior. Yabuki is one of the most legendary ecchi artists of all time. He deserves better.
>>288225117>Though I'm looking at them now and they look just as badWhat? No they don't?They look much cleanerhttps://cubari.moe/read/imgchest/qe4gkg82j7j/1/1/Even the greyscale parts don't look anywhere near as noisy
>>288225118NTA, but of course people "care" more about Kanokari. The reader base is substantially larger than Mayotuna, even if a huge portion of that is just people hate-reading/succumbing to sunk cost and being unable to stop.
>>288225182Yabuki is also co-writer so he is also responsible for that bullshitHe could have vetoed Hacksemi's shit but he didn't
>>288223819X'mas
>>288225202Whoever did this downscaled them from x1378 to x1080, so if anything they're slightly lower quality than the original on the leftThe text edges might just look a bit less blocky because the lower res blurs and smooths out the noise, but otherwise you can see it's less detailed
>>288198912rikka > nene > iko > shinobunene's outfit wouldve been a little bit better without the sleeves
>>288225249They don'tI've been a reader since day onePeople care about few series today and Kanokari isn't one of themThey're content in eating slop as long as they get it fastAnyways, the fans aren't fixing the releases, nor does Kodansha USA care about providing Kanokari fans with a quality product, as evidenced by the Ruka censorship and the many misprints of physical volumes that have been reported to the point where many fans gave up buying the physical volumesI think you're overestimating KO's current popularityKanokari 45 - 30,415Mayonaka Heart Tune 12 - 17,305These days even Cuckoo is close to Kanokari's salesAnyhow, my rambling aside, the disparity in image quality between KO and Mayo is not explained by thatEspecially considering the KO rips are lower resolution, they just look cleaner
>>288225491I just grabbed the cubari from the Kanokari subreddit where they always post itThe point is that it looks noticeably cleaner than far less noisier than MayonakaIt's obviously far from great, and even inferior to the fan scans we used to getBut all in all the IQ is not as bad as MayoDon't understand why they settled on 1378 thoughWhy not a nice round number like 1400 or 1600?
>>288198761>wait one of the four girls who loves me is secretly Apollo who loves me >WHAT A REVOLATION despite me already knowing she had to love me due to being one of the four Yamabuki more like Yamabaka
>>288209503Everyone is clam jamming each other
I swear to god this manga better not end before all the girls react to learning about Apollo I want to see which girls get pissed off at the duplicity
>>288199016>>288199125>>288199192This is three times she's gotten in the way of the other girls' moments
>>288225741It's not just "Apollo is one of the four girls I already know are in love with me". It's "Holy shit, Apollo has actually been in love with me the entire time? Since before the broadcasting club?" Keep in mind that he's always rationalized her "aishiteru" as the way she signs off her broadcasts, so even during the confession service he basically took it as her doing her usual thing rather than an actual statement of affection. Until now he had convinced himself that the heroines only started developing feelings for him as a result of the time they've shared together as clubmates/talent and producer. Her telling him in no uncertain terms that she's always loved him, and that what he took to be a cutesy way of showing affection for her viewers, was actually her offering the most profound expression of love possible in the Japanese language to him alone is obviously going to rock his world. He isn't able to lie to himself and rationalize it away when he's confronted directly with the truth.
>>288225841They've all known about Apollo to some extent since the first chapter. They're also all aware of Apollo's apology during the confession service and have at least some inkling of how she wronged Arisu by abandoning him. Furthermore, if Shinobu isn't Apollo—and I don't think that she is—then she for certain knowsc Apollo's identity.
>>288207891Why chose when you can Bokuben it up and have ROUTES
>>288226194Routes just don't work that well in a manga format. And if Igarashi makes Apollo a different girl in each route, it'd just make the whole mystery even more pointless than it already is.
>>288225714>Kanokari subreddit feeds downscaled slop to their readersOn par with the reputation of the series itself I guess>The point is that it looks noticeably cleaner than far less noisier than MayonakaI don't really see it honestly. I assume you don't mean the downscaled version because that one looks very obviously worse and blurry compared to the original from either series, but even at the correct res, things like the noise around edges seem to be present in the same amount in both. Kanokari's artstyle is more simple compared to Mayonaka though, so maybe it can look "cleaner" because there's less going on visually, Idk. Mayonaka has more shades and detail that has more chance to be affected by compression>Don't understand why they settled on 1378 though>Why not a nice round number like 1400 or 1600?Inherited from the traditional aspect ratios and DPI of physical releases I think. The raws from WSM for these series are in fact x1600 though
>>288226254>it'd just make the whole mystery even more pointless than it already is.the mystery was always pointless every red herring can become a blue truth with merely a simple whim of the author
>>288226028I need more fighting none of this lets all get along as harem cucks shit I want someone in it to win it and going for the goal
>>288226194Routes would just be the cowardly way out. Either commit to just one girl or a true harem. There's a reason QQ is still printing money while Bokuben is mostly forgotten, despite being published around the same time.
>>288226308Presuming that's the reason is retarded.
>>288226300>I want someone in it to win it and going for the goalI mean if that's REALLY the wagon you wanna hitch your horse to, be my guest. Doesn't tend to work out great for the heroines who do that shit though.
>>288226386I have never read this
>>288226463Igarashi definitely has.
>>288226300Every girl that locks in is a loser, is one of those unspoken harem rules, you gotta mantain the status quo while also keeping the girl "pure" and for nips purity and cuteness is tied to not being direct with your feelings, so the character that wants to disturb that is marked to lose.
>>288226578That's gay, I want a girl to be rewarded for her effort
>>288226194The problem with Bokeben, or any manga trying to pull this off, is that it doesnt really work since you need to do the split at the end, this isnt like a VN where you can lock in on a different girl early and have widly different plotlines, since you can just go back to the start and go a different route later, Bokuben had the tomboy win and felt in line with what story and events has been so far, all other girls had to recive a timeskip of some sort for that.
>>288226621Then it's a good thing you didn't read 5toubun, because the ones who tried hardest, Nino and Ichika, were the ones subjected to the most brutal humiliation rituals.
>>288226621I know, I pain when harem manga have this girl, usually rich but not always, meet MC when little, MC leaves a strong impression on her but goes away, girl dedicates the following years to become MC perfect girl after she asked him "what type of girl you like", just to meet him at school or something later; is upfront, clearly says she wants to date and loves him and is trying really hard to appeal to him yet they never win, all that effort, dedication and passion wasted because "you cant force love" or some shit.
>>288226578hence why shinobu will win
>>288226643>Bokuben had the tomboy win and felt in line with what story and events has been so far, all other girls had to recive a timeskip of some sort for that.To this day I'm amazed that there are still people who deny that Uruka's ending wasn't the canon route, and the one that 22i obviously intended from the start. It's the only route that doesn't necessitate either some degree of retcon, or just straight up ignoring a major part of the story (her confession). Never mind that it was also the first route. I don't believe for a second that 22i always intended to write multiple routes. Editorial told him to do that shit because Mafuyu was more staggeringly popular than any heroine had ever been in a WSJ romcom relative to the rest of the cast, and not having her win in at last some fashion was straight up leaving money on the table. I actually like that Bokuben has routes, personally. But I can't fathom that people don't realize that Uruka was 22i's intended winner.
>>288226771How can you possibly think that Shinobu isn't locked in? She's literally the first one to act after Arisu tells the heroines to make him fall in love with them. She's been proactive as fuck for the last 20 chapters.
>>288226463Igarashi probably hasn't, either, given that he recommended RaG of all things over it.
>>288226837Probably the same delusional Shinoturd who thinks that Shinobu was not jealous at any point in the story.
>>288226788Mafuyu was a fluke, no romcom is ever going to have a girl this much more popular compared to the rest. Like just the top 5 alone she's 60% of vote this will never happen again
>>288226843WSM mangaka seem to be on pretty good terms with one another in general. Chances are Igarashi and Reiji are just good friends. Obviously you're going to recommend your bro's series.
>>288226843Why do so many Mangaka like RaG even Hiroyuki referenced it
>>288226788Is either people in denial or just trying to shitpost
>>288226837uh because she hasn't been. bucky comes to shinobu
>>288226934Reiji seems to be pretty well-liked as a person within the industry. Mangaka are a lot more likely to recommend works from their friends/former assistants/people they happen to like. So chances are that it's just because he's a nice person.
>>288226984>bucky comes to shinobuShe literally >>288225873 cockblocked everyone
>>288226984Yeah, she definitely wasn't the first to actively seek him out during the school trip or anything. Though I was mistaken about her being the first to do so after he told them to make him fall for them. That was Rikka. Kind of.
Behold: Arisu desperately trying to secure a solo date with Shinobu. Absolutely no proactiveness on her part.
>>288227097that is character development because she used to be afraid and bucky wanted it anyway
>>288227097He literally wanted Nene to tag along
>>288226963Uruka's ending is also the only one that gives even a modicum of closure to the other heroines, with them all encouraging Nariyuki and/or helping him make it to the airport before she leaves. It's so blatantly the only ending that 22i planned extensively ahead of time that it's honestly kind of a miracle that only one of the other four routes after it ended up sucking. And we still know which one that was.
>>288227289no he did not
>>288227254>uh because she hasn't been. bucky comes to shinobuSo she hasn't been proactive, except for all the times the she has been as a result of her character development? This is why Nobufags get called schizos in these threads.>>288227289Anon, are you unaware of what sarcasm is?
>>288227320Rizu deserved better
>>288227353>schizo pretends things that happened didn't actually happen because it contradicts their view of their best girl's place in the narrativeWhy is it ALWAYS the Nobufags though?
>>288227373Every route following Rizu's made me tear up a little. Hers just left me fucking empty inside. 22i didn't even have the decency to let her be the main character in her own ending. I'm still upset.
>>288227380This is why I don't like to engage with them. It feels like they're reading a different manga altogether.
>>288227380he did not mean that. he got flustered
>>288227428We have at least three or four Shinobuschizos, and one incredibly vocal Rikkajeet who always find a way to be fucking insufferable. It's hardly a surprise the Iko and Nene are seemingly the most beloved heroines in these threads. And we finally got an image like this is them together.
>>288227430Yeah, just look how flustered he is whole strolling along and having a casual conversation. You don't actually read this fucking manga.
>>288227488mentally flustered
>>288227427Its amazing that he did that to one of the 2 main heroines, the whole serie premise and setting started with her and Fumino, and she got pushed aside like that
>>288227523THIS is Arisu looking mentally flustered, you fucking moron. Keep deluding yourself.
>>288227524To be fair I think Uruka was intended to be just as much of a main heroine as Rizu and Fumino, but he couldn't fit her in chapter 1 to quite the same extent. And because Rizu and Fumino parallel one another in both their struggles and career goals, it made the most sense to introduce them together. He gave Uruka the same degree of focus as quickly as possible once they were set up. They're all three fully introduced in volume 1.
>>288227595that is not the same thing
>>288227639I know I know, but those 2 were still the initial face of the serialization, so Rizu getting such shit ending, man it just hurts as a Rizufag
>>288211585The guy who made this is an idiot. He only analyzed one voice sample, the seiyuu actually rotated every episode. Everyone recognized Miku as Apollo in the first episode and thought the anime spoiled it, but then she was voiced by another girl in the next.
>>288227771Believe me, I feel you. I was a Rizufag too. I've re-read the manga a couple of times and I can't even bring myself to have the same affection for her as I did the first time around because I know where it all leads. I straight up skipped her route in my second re-read.
>>288227796You're the same dishonest faggot from last thread who insists that he didn't even analyze the mall episode while having no proof of that, right? Yeah, that's definitely (You). Pretty sure I saw your post in the Reddit thread that's from as well.
>>288227801I havent reread bokuben but I feel I am more inclined to reread that than QQ knowing the endings all that.
>>288227866The ending of 5toubun is largely fine. It just stings if you grew to like Nino (no one likes her from the start). The winner made sense, even if it was a bit hamfisted toward the end, and the manga on the whole is about as good as you can actually make a harem whodunnit. It was huge for a reason. Just like it's still getting new media, including a full on anime production, for a reason.
luv nn
>>288227904> The winner made sense, even if it was a bit hamfisted toward the end, Thats my issue, for me it feels hamfisted as fuck that is not enjoyable, I just hope this serie doesnt feel that way with the "who is apollo" plot.
>>288228017This needs an update
>>288227981I mean you could always read up to chapter 112 then hop over to the VN that gives every quintuplet their own route starting from the end of that chapter. I haven't played it, but people seem to like it.
>>288227977Violent anal with Nene.
>>288228141My manga backlog is too big to give time to VNs
>>288213676If he wouldn't love her just because she straight up told him the truth, then it was always a worthless fake love, that is so stupid and contrived and childish and the protagonist after over 100 chapters is still a cunt that feels taken from an american tv series from a couple of decades ago, the typical case of "I am a genius so I will be allowed to be an asshole and will never learn".
>>288228405Why the fuck are you still reading this manga if you hate the protagonist so much? There are plenty of other harems you can read where the protagnist is the kind of limp-dicked doormat who only attracts women by being "nice", rather than being a legitimately charismatic and likable chad like Arisu. To Love Ru would be perfect for you. Rito is a pathetic, indecisive doormat.
Do you want the losing heroines to find their own partners before the manga ends?
>>288228502It doesn't even need to go that far. Just show them happy and having moved on from our autistic protagonist.
>>288228465who the fuck are YOU that you pretend to know what I think and like.You made 3 mistakes here, next time don't rely on prejudice so much, otherwise, why bother discussing anything if you already made up your mind?
>>288228502Yes but only if yuri
>>288228502For me, just like we don't need to see characters take a dump or sleep everytime, we don't to see every detail of their relationship, but I find it overly pathetic when a writer pretend his story to be above harems or his girls to be indipendent with their own agency and then they just all hang by a single person, one who has repeatetly shown no interest in them.If it was a male character doing that to a girl it would probably look pathetic.
>>288228502>>288228538This right here. They don't necessarily have to have found a partner or started a family. Just showing that they've achieved success and aren't still hung up on the guy they lived in high school is all that's necessary for it to feel like they each got their own happy. >>288228538>don't rely on prejudice so muchI don't think that's possible given that I'm pretty sure I hate you. Check out Medaka Kuroiwa. That's one's protagonist is a HUGE bitch. You'll love 'im.
>>288228538This, we already have glimpses to their future, so I only want them to be sastisfied with their lives, I dont mind if they get married or date other guys after being rejected, but they need to be happy.Is quite pathetic for everyone involved if they are still pinning for their highschool crush after being rejected, the girls look like sore losers and the guy looks like an ass for still baiting them while already having chosed and probably marry one of the girls. Unless we go full harem end.
>>288228690I think the Japanese audience is weirdly fucking averse to seeing heroines move on and be with other people besides the protagonist. Like they view it as some form of post-rejection NTR or some shit.
>>288228730> post-rejection NTRWhat a phrase.
>>288228730I will never get nips, they hate ntr, real, implied or even the mere "probability" that its a option that could happen yet are one of the biggest producer and consumer of said fetish.
>>288228846>>288228903You see that same kind of purityfaggotry in isekai threads pretty frequently. Any heroine who moves on from her first love is maligned as tainted/impure/used goods/etc., and will be vehemently despised for an act as simple as having shared her first kiss with someone who isn't the person she ends up marrying. It's as insidious as it is pathetic.
>>288228903I think only koreans may surprass them in ntr consumption
>>288227837I'm not that guy, but good to know there is someone else with ears left in these threads. It's 100% Miku in the first episode, I don't need an AI to tell me.
>>288226260>Kanokari's artstyle is more simple compared to MayonakaUh yeah sorry but no
>>288226643>>288226788>>288226963>>288227320>>288227639Lmao THK you schizo1/522i said Fumino was his favoriteCan't believe you're still seething about this to this day
>>288229444It absolutely is. Reiji is a good artist but his compositions and paneling are not on the same level as Igarashi's. Yes his character art is excellent, and I could understand if someone prefers it to Igarashi's style, but he absolutely does not employ the same level of technical skill in his illustrations that Igarashi does. Ergo, his art is simpler. Even the best instance if paneling I can think of in Kanokari was still very simple. But it was simple in the right way to make the scene work.
>>288226905More like Kusoben was such a failed Nisekoi clone that a hag outshined the rest of the girls
>>288229512Why would I seethe? I like Fumino more than I like Uruka. Do you think I'm your boogeyman, or something? Fucking kek.
>>288226934Hiroyuki is friends with Reiji, they even commented on each-other in the ToC comments multiple times, Hiroyuki was even pissed at Reiji about what he was doing with Kanokari kekIgarashi recommends it because it's a WSM romcomIt's mostly just cronyism at work
>>288229594>It's mostly just cronyism at workMaybe I'm reading into it too much, but back when Kanojo mo Kanojo ended, a ton of WSM artists drew congratulatory pieces featuring their favorite heroines. Even Morikawa drew one. I get the impression there's a lot of genuine camaraderie between the mangaka working at WSM. It's never seemed like they're competitive the way WSJ mangaka frequently are. Probably because Kodansha doesn't make their veteran mangaka fight tooth and nail to keep a place in the magazine, for better or for worse.
>>288228730>>288228903You fuckers are moronsNips self-insert(even if the MC is nothing like them) and they want all the waifus for themFor them harem manga is escapism fantasy and the waifus being pure and perfect forever virgins who are devoted to you forever no matter what(of course it also symbolizes real love because if you move on it was never really love in the first place) is the selling point because it's something they can't get irl Why is this so hard to understand?
>>288228903>I will never get nips, they hate ntr, real, implied or even the mere "probability" that its a option that could happen yet are one of the biggest producer and consumer of said fetish.They are not generally consumed the same audienceAnd some of the consumption of NTR is driven by their hatred of women which is why have so much ugly bastard shit
>>288229699>Why is this so hard to understand?I fully understand it. I just think it's fucking pathetic. The same way it's fucking pathetic when the faggots in the isekai general do it. And the same way I think it's fucking pathetic that you're acting like it isn't fucking pathetic. Stop being fucking pathetic. The fictional heroines are never going to fuck you.
>>288229645I love the dumb faces she make.
>>288229741>And some of the consumption of NTR is driven by their hatred of womenThis is equally true if the purityfags who want they losing heroine to remain chaste and committed to the protagonist of whatever series they self-insert into for the rest of their lives.
>>288229513>It absolutely is.Absolutely notIgarashi is solid but not on Reiji's levelAny given Chzuru spread is on another levelBTW if you guys are wondering why Igarashi is recommending Kanokari, you may remember that Senryuu Shoujo and Kanokari had a crossover back in the day
>>288229851>Any given Chzuru spread is on another levelReiji's spreads are good, but they're no better than something like picrel. They're also very rarely anything special in terms of composition.
>>288229544>I like Fumino more than I like Uruka.Bahahahahaha
>>288229688>It's never seemed like they're competitive the way WSJ mangaka frequently areI don't know what impression of Jump you have but they always do the tributes for Jump mangaka too And there are plenty of mangaka friends even on JumpExample off the top of my head: When Hiroyuki Takei serialized his 1st Butsu Zone chapter in his first chapter comment he shilled Oda's One Piece before One Piece was serializedWSM is not really unique
>>288229811Who do you think reads manga in Japan my dude?It's mostly the losers of society
>>288229909See that page you posted to me just looks bland as fuckTechnically solid, but Igarashi is Naitou Mercey level, maybe a bit betterHe doesn't have Reiji's artistic senseReiji really is wasting his talent big time by still doing Kanokari
>>288230204Are you just hanging out in the MayoTuna thread because even with a new chapter AND episode every week Kanokari threads are slow is fuck? Also, you have a shit eye for composition if you think Igarashi's art is "bland" compared to that.
>>288230070You're thinking of light novels. Manga is mainstream as fuck in Japan, and became mainstream even before anime.
guise... let's all get along...
>>288230046>he shilled Oda's One Piece before One Piece was serializedWell yeah, they both worked as assistants together during their come up. I never said that there's no such thing as WSJ mangaka getting along. Just that the more cutthroat nature of the magazine leads to a lot more competition among the mangaka who work under it, whereas WSM generally has both a lower barrier of entry while simultaneously treating its veteran mangaka with a high degree of privilege even with their works don't sell as well. Mayotuna wouldn't have lasted four volumes in WSJ.
>>288230413My dude, Reiji is a master of compositionWhat the hell are you on about?He's also better at paneling Just because he keeps his paneling simple doesn't mean it's worse or that he's incapable of more complex paneling, which he often demonstrated in the early days of Kanokari before simplifying his panelingBut his paneling looks really good because he has a good eye for itThe shit you posted is not particularly impressive
>>288230472The harem genre isn't mainstream It never has been
>>288230933Just fuck off back to your own thread you shill. Chorizo will never love you.
>>2882309615toubun was absolutely a mainstream series. Even overseas. Granted it's more the exception that proves the rule. A whole lot of people who don't know shit about harem romcoms experienced it as both their first and last entry in the genre once they realized that their favorite heroine can actually lose.
Either Nene or Shinobu will win. Their jobs can last till they are old.Iko and Rikka jobs are unstable. I cannot imagine the winner has an unstable job.
>>288230508I don't particularly see WSJ as much different to be honestSure there are some stories such as Motomiya rightfully being pissed off that Jump was favoring Saint Seiya with a very early anime adaptation when both Seiya and his own series Sekiryuuou had been in the axe zone for a long time and Shueisha favored Seiya(probably because they saw the fujo potential let's be real)He was then moved to Super Jump and Motomiya eventually left Jump as a consequence(same would happen to Kurumada later)He probably saw it as disrespect after he had been the one who had originally popularized Jump in the 60sBut even then I don't think he was mad at Kurumada but higher ups for playing unfair
>>288231071Don't have a cow
>>288231101>5toubun was absolutely a mainstream series.I don't think you understand what a mainstream series isAdachi Mitsuru's Touch is mainstreamToubun had degenerate waifufags who kept buying thousands of copies of volumes which featured their waifuIt was a niche mega success, not a mainstream one which is a different thing
>>288198788LEMON SENSEI
Is this the first time Nene has so blatantly signaled Apollo? It was Rikka-tier.
>>288233173She's done it before but this was probably her most obvious one yet
>>288233173>>288233884She also went hardest on watching the fireworks with Arisu. All of the girls did to some extent, but she actively screwed Shinobu over to share a room with him, and actively attempted to screw over all three of them by demanding that he watch the fireworks with her alone. That arc was a really strong showing for her.
>>288233923Between the hotel room stuff and the school trip where she baited Arisu into following her Nene is surprisingly good at bamboozling people
>>288234626She has a visual tell when she's being blatantly dishonest, but she's really good at getting one over on people. She has a much stronger chance of being Apollo than she's given credit for, even if it's STILL seemingly the least chance of any heroine. Although apparently Reddit is starting to think she's a strong contender and that she's supposedly based specifically on the Apollo 13. They do a lot more actual theorizing over there. Unfortunately there are also a lot more retarded ESLfags, so I can't bring myself to read some of it for long. And a lot of that theorizing is just the highest order of grasping at straws.
>>288234755I just got into the manga so I dunno if anyone's brought this up but given Nene's spent her whole life jumping from interest to interest before settling on voice acting, it's not impossible Apollo disappeared cause of how flaky she can be.
>>288234984It was something people mentioned with that part of her character was first revealed, the problem is that it still kind of runs counter to the fact that we've seen a decent amount of her internal monologue, and the coupled with her being a shitty liar, it really makes it a stretch to say that she's Apollo based on that. And I'm one of the people who thinks her shot is better then she's given credit for. I actually think that if she is Apollo, the fact that the first thing she heard about Arisu was that he went around asking girls to say "I love you" activated her tsun on overdrive and completely flipped her switch toward "I fucking hate this guy." So if she is Apollo, it took her a long while to re-combobulate and reconcile her own ambivalence with regards to both hating him for being kind of a pompous asshole who took away her happy place, but also loving him for being an absolute stud who genuinely busts his ass to help her pursue her dream. She's a pretty well-written tsundere.
>>288234984>>288235185Another fun hint for Nene from super early on is the fact that she's holding a pen in her left hand during the broadcast in the first chapter (Apollo is shown hiding her phone behind her waist in her right hand at the same time), but is definitely right-handed. In fact there are several panels that very strongly emphasize her being right-handed. She's Igarashi's favorite so I'll never count her out.
>>288235185As far as the beginning goes, Nene wouldn't really need to lie that much if at all given Arisu barely made a token effort to find Apollo before getting sidetracked into helping everyone. Honestly I slightly lean more towards Iko being Apollo out of bias but it's fun to dig into the hints being thrown around
>>288235468>Honestly I slightly lean more towards Iko being Apollo out of biasThat's funny, because I unironically think Iko is Apollo after two years of reading this manga and putting way too much thought into it. Granted, I think any of the four could be Apollo because Igarashi has structured the story such that he can pick who he wants to win and feel that he laid enough groundwork to make it work. But I sincerely think Iko has the strongest chance. Her being my favorite is purely coincidental because I only barely like her more than Nene and think the latter has the weakest chance. I just like proactive heroines, and Iko is very proactive by the standards of this series.
>>288233173She does get quite a few blatant parallels to Apollo over the course of the series, but they're generally overshadowed by how fucking overt Rikka's hints are.
>>288235516Now that you mention it the characters being so proactive and lively is one of the high points of the manga for me. Even Shinobu regularly does shit on her own initiative despite being the passive one of the group.>>288235885I know she's already got too many obvious hints but something about Rikka that stood out to me is both she and Apollo like to infodump people with random facts, and I don't remember seeing that from the other girls
>>288235956>both she and Apollo like to infodump people with random factsThe flip side of this is that Arisu likes so do the same, and it's consistently treated as annoying. Nene, however, is super into it—once she drops the tsun. Apollo's personality doesn't particularly match any of the heroines 1:1, so it's hard to draw parallels. Her vocal mannerisms have also manifested in multiple heroines, as seen here >>288235885 and when she and Shinobu are shown having the same laugh.
Nene will lose, but she already won my heart.
>>288237629last for nene!
>>288218330She wants to win.Too bad she didn't have bare shoulders like the others.
>>288237629last for nene too!
>>288227427Yeah. Sawako and his imouto deserved a mini route as a volume bonus at least.
>>288235885What's the original Japanese? And aren't those just common phrases everyone uses?I like all girls btw.
Last for the actual winner.
Nene carring another thread on her back, two weeks in a row. What a champ.
>>288238304Shinobu looks like a ghost
>>288238304Rikkas clown shoes will never not be hilarious.
>>288238640She's not the one with clown shoes here
>>288238304Since Iko tends to be drawn with baggie clothes for her usual wear, this kind of pics, or when the manga goes fanservice like with the christmas outfits, is a little jarring to see how big her chest is
Goodbye, Nene!
>>288199192He chest is so round...
>>288239202Flatties not allowed here. Sorry for his onee-chan.
