Volume 55The Great War BeginsChapter 516: Gaara's Speech https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>288303442
>2 minutes lateTsk tsk
>>288325162Oh no, it's this cringe chapter
>>288325162>THIS WAR WILL END IN...FIVE MINUTES
>>288325367Lame speech
B&W
This is going to be a long 6 months
>>288325174naked Anko...
slopa anonYou got that sakura facesitting one?
>>288325543
>>288325575This AI will result in a lot of Sakura piss and shit being posted in here...
>>288325595No
Done!
>>288325609Good.
Another day, another chapter. The children are still safe to play. Thanks Naruto!
>>288325595Anonyour fetish is showing again
>>288325196>And you, random ninja from konoha whose job is just to bring emotional damage to a single person
>>288325186
TWELVE YEARS AGO A NINE TAILED FOX SUDDENLY APPEARED...IF YOU BELIEVE IT!NARUTO! NARUTO!BELIEVE IT! BELIEVE IT!HERE I AM WITH MY NINJA CLAN!NINJA CLAN, HERE WE STAND!NARUTO, I'M ON MY WAY,NARUTO, I'LL BE OKAY!GETTING READY TO FIGHT ON SIGHT!COME ON BEST FRIENDS BY MY SIDE!SASUKE, IS REALLY COOL!SAKURA, THE BEAUTIFUL!KOWAGARUNA NARUTO SAOTO MAMOREKOWAGARUNA NARUTO SAOTO MAMORE
>>288325396If Tsunade gave a boobjob to every single shinobi and samurai on both factions (including the Zetsus) the war would be over.
>>288325423There's no way it lasts that long daily, does it? Holy shit
>>288325668Not my fetish but I know the daily well enough by now to know someone will spam the Sakura piss and scat meme to death if they get access to an AI making Kishi style art. Good thing the original guy making it refused to do it. The anal Tenten and Ino blowjob I requested were really great and I hope he does more of all of them.
>>288325396Damn, they're almost as big as her head.
i love naruto
>>288325575>>288325668Cant they both be butt ass naked in an actual bed doing a 69 and they should be comfortable not akward?
>>288325196I wanted to see how Deidara would react to Tobi not acting like a goof. Maybe speaking to him like he's still his kouhai and getting shocked by his stoicness / maturity
>>288325836>Good thing the original guy making it refused to do itYeah I ain't doing that that's vile
>>288325225Should have just slurped Sasuke up to your hidden dimension and kept him safe from Kabuto the Rapist there
>>288325836You're part of the problem
so the spammers new strategy is to ruin the threads with AI porn spam?
>>288325965>implying You can't ruin a thread that's already bad
>>288325888Trips of love
>>288325990What's wrong with it? It's just a normal chapter dump thread.
>>288325612Ty for the dump
>>288325951Yeah please do more Tenten instead. Can you do Tenten with her pants down to her knees in a forest and presenting her spread ass while inviting for anal?>>288325960I just pointed out that eventually this is the fate of the thread. We can never escape the schizophrenia.
>>288325575>>288325668>>288325893I agree i want more intimacy, i want them to at least be touching each others genitals while holding a lovely gaze to one another.>It would melt me
>>288325762A boobjob wouldn't work on the most important shinobi that you'd need to stopHe's a flatchad
>>288326058You're degenerate and part of the problem.
>>288326058https://files.catbox.moe/q3w8qj.png
>>288326477Fuck thats hot. Thank you again!
>>288326135>He's a flatchadSo that's why coolest guy likes Rin
Gaara's progression from being a sociopath loner to now being a kage giving war speeches is very unnatural
>>288326553>He's a flatchadBased...so fucking based
>>288325196kek Deidara is the best
So the daily is just a gooner general now?
>>288325300Horrific body horror
>>288326594...At getting his shit pushed in by Uchihachads
>>288325367This speech was good until he BEGGED for help...
>>288325612Thanks sakon
>>288325564Gaara could probably solo at least 60% of the shinobi forces by himself. Most of them are useless fodder.
>>288326789>Most of them are useless fodder.That's because Kishi needed fodder but forgot anything above Genin aren't supposed to be fodder
>>288325162ARIGATO, OUR LEADER!
This first part of the war is gonna suck ass until madara comes
>>288326477Anon... Anyway we can get some Samsui spread eagle or mating press?
>>288326616Basically
>>288326701Agreed. Could have gone harder on the "fight me if you don't like it"
>>288326616Not yet. A gooner general needs willing milkers. We dont have those yet.>>288326895I'd slap her tits a lot and very hard to make sure they grow big eventually.
>>288326949>they grow bigRuined
>>288326965A good kunoichi needs a big pair of tits to be successful. She needs to grow booba to surpass 106cm.
>>288326949
>>288325385>FOLLOW ME! TO WAAARRRR!>20,000 people or whatever all just start randomly running in a direction >The zetsu army that they do not know exists is currently underground travelling to an unknown location >The kage's who are supposed to be leading this 'army' to war are just standing on a balcony watching everyone run away from them to.. Somewhere.>Do they think they're all running towards Obito? They don't even know where he is, they don't even know Kabuto is alive or involved at all>It's just a big crowd of people 'running to the war' with zero story logic or reason behind whats actually happening on the pageGod I forgot how bad the war arc really was, it's all downhill from here folks.
>>288327131Thats already better. You can already picture here laying spread eagle on a bed with the tits spreading to the sides nicely. Thou I would say someone with even bigger ones like Tsunade or Samui would still beat her out in that regard.
>>288327162They got intel on where the enemy's main base is last chapter speedreader. Still a stupid concept though.
>>288327131Ruined
>>288327131
one thing i can appreciate is how kankuro and temari don't leave gaara's side after he dies and gets revived. temari was in the leaf village when that happened but then, they don't seem to leave the sand village unless it's with gaara.but then again, they just don't get shown much.man they draw him so ugly in the war arc.>>288326559maybe. but he had to become the kind of person he is now for it to make sense he's kage, i guess. i find it unnatural how all his trauma just seems magically gone or like it doesn't affect him at all when he shows up in the sasuke retrieval arc.and i mean, gaara was always a quiet serious person when he wasn't affected by his blood trauma and having schizo episodes.for him to be able to give some kind of heartfelt speech might feel kinda weird though. but i think it makes the most sense coming from him here since he was literally an enemy converted to a friend through naruto showing him kindness, that knowing someone's pain means you shouldn't be enemies, unlike how he was approaching sasuke in the chuunin exams and wanting to kill him because he knew a similar pain.
>>288325564>>288326789they would have to be good enough to get past his automatic defense too if they wanted to kill him.most of them wouldn't be good enough to even do anything to him.
Testing a different tier list. I like this one better
>>288327565How is Tsunade still in the "not enough data"?
>>288325324>I was hatred and powerGonna be honest that's a pretty baller thing to say and not many in the shinobi world can say the same.
>war arc takes about 3 days in-universeOver how many chapters?
>>288327604I don't remember her throwing a punch
You NS fags better god damn appreciate this.>if kishi only had the balls to do this as intended.
>>288327787Ah, you're just retarded. Got it.
>>288325186>bodies moving on their own>they still need verbal instruction
>>288327616he was always pretty baller until going good made him boring.the hospital scene where he just casually replies he was trying to kill lee when naruto and shikamaru ask what he was trying to do is hilarious.
>>288325196Very convenient jutsu, bringing back the dead, their clothes, their equipment and everything
>>288325225>zetsu has zero combat ability>he will protest sasuke okay???
>>288327803
Goes to show one panel would seal the deal as compared to an entire film.
>>288326075>>288326477I second this anon please get to it. We love you !
>>288328193Please not just NaruSaku. I have many ideas for all the girls doing sexy stuff.
What a shit thread
>>288328247Anon we need this take your time but we need this please be passionate and sexual.
>>288328247Oh you do well i got one good idea , ino getting double penetrated by shikamaru and choji.
>>288328373Passion is gay. Its what shippers do.>>288328426Thats a great idea. My next idea after the Tenten one would have been Tsunade getting cum blasted all over her tits and face while ahegaoing. I hope the AI anon can make it real.
>>288328302Sorry there's not more gay shit for you to enjoy , you might want to join the DB thread
>>288328490Go make a gooner thread you retarded faggot.
>>288328540>Go make a goonerBut there's already a DB thread anon
How many chapters until madara ENTER? Thats the moment this "war" gets good
>>288325186>>288325196>>288325216do we really need all these separate scenes of different zombies going>where am I?>we've been resurrected by a forbidden jutsu!
>>288328596Will doo
>>28832863043 chapters until he appears45 chapters until the drop
>>288327131>>288326895where temari love pls
>>288304409>Suna had no one else besides their own kage for thisI've been meaning to bring this up, whatever happened to Baki? Is he present during the war arc at all? He was a relatively big deal on the suna council, was he not?
Im back https://files.catbox.moe/3pjg6z.jpeg
>>288328193>>288326075https://files.catbox.moe/jgf8zm.jpeg
>>288328247https://files.catbox.moe/hunx8u.jpeg
More tentenhttps://files.catbox.moe/qt1ais.jpeg
>>288329181Anon you really are intent on keeping my dick hard.I got another idea. Shizune laying on the hokage table naked while Tsunade sticks a long dildo in her pussy and prepares to fuck Shizune.
>allied shinobi forces are 80k strong>assuming an even split, each village contributed like 15-16k eachHow the fuck is this possible? I doubt there are even 1k ninja in Konoha
>>288329306these 4 posts was a different anon btw
>>288329306You talk like a faggot
>>288329306Enjoy !!https://files.catbox.moe/mli8wg.jpeghttps://files.catbox.moe/0eke1l.jpeg
>>288329400Okay. Still some really good stuff.>>288329508Goddammit. I need to go jerking off.
>>288325324>>288325340>>288325347>>288325367>>288325375Where is this guy IRL so that we can have world peace?
>>288327565Are you just gonna rank the alive jinchuriki based on their six paths/edo versions?
Hiashi won.
>>288327565>Tobi below PainOne was giving orders to the other for a reason
Cant beat up hinata with that much hate ns fags.https://files.catbox.moe/80ntrq.jpeg
>>288325162>Tracing Freeza
>>288329558I will rank them based on their performance in the war. Question is if I should put their edo pics on the tiers or their alive versions.
>>288329602It's still fishy if he can solo all 6 pains at once. Time will tell
>>288325174Dang, the art is getting rough, Tokuma is looking like a soijack.
Is this what you NS FAGS want something pic related with naruto and sakura touching each other ? Just give me a second.https://files.catbox.moe/5codg3.jpeg
>>288325186Honestly, it would've been cooler if they had memories of the after life, but i guess Kishi didn't want to open that can of worms.
>>288329647If you're ranking them based on the edos, you should use the edo pics. I don't think they're really representative of when they were alive. (I wonder if there's actually really anything to differentiate them though)
>>288329550if you actually saw Gaara crush your hometown underdog Rock Lee's legs in malice, and go full bloodlust psychobeast - you wouldnt stand there as a grunt IRL only 2 years later as a skinny 18yo lectures you that>we are only one People, ManGaara what Hashish did they start using in your sandshithole
>>288325216Does this imply Dan mentored Kurenai, Asuma and Raido or is he just being formal?
>>288325612thanks, OP!
>>288325300Muta and Lanka?What kind of names are these?Also, why did Anko got separated? She's the leader.
>>288329714Sure
>>288325311I don't remember Suna and Iwa having any relevant conflict beforehand.Always thought Iwa disliked Konoha specifically.
>>288329835I found it kinda weird how Iwa and Kumo seemed to hate each other when they have no shared border and sandwhich konoha between them.
>>288329805>Also, why did Anko got separated? She's the leaderHow do people like you function in life?
>>288325367>My father? Eh, i don't care anymore.
>>288329695Can you generate Tsunade, Ino and Temari all showing off their holes in different ways with Tsunade having a big bush, Temari having a landing strip and Ino being hairless please.
>>288325375>Naruto spent DAYS doing this
>>288325612>>288325590>>288325396Arigatou, OP!
>>288326818Mizuki got no diffed by chapter 1 Naruto
>>288328849He retired
Kakashi Zabuza rematch will be epic
>>288329732>as a skinny 18yo lectures youIt's even worse. He's 16 or 17
>>288329983>Wait, we're supposed to be friends? I never thought of that!
>>288329871Was the intention for her to slow down Kabuto so the others can escape? I don't think that was shown.Like, wouldn't it be better for Tokuma to do this since he'd be more battle fit than Anko? He already ends up doing it anyway.
>>288329805Because pic relatedUnless you mean why did she choose to stay behind to monitor the enemy when she's the leader instead of choosing someone else to do it? Probably feels that as leader it's her responsibility or something
>>288330033My bad i speedread.
>>288329978Zabuza may be land of waves level threat but that mist jutsu and silent killing thing is perfect for large scale battles like the war, he'd be a monster
>>288330033That literal who was right, she had absolutely no chance against Kabuto or even hide from him.It's also weird that Kishi decided to have 2 scenes where a character decides to stay behind while the others run in a single chapter.
>>288330058It happens
>>288330111How could she have known Kabuto would be able to find her? I mean it was a risk but I guess she felt like she needed to keep an eye on things even so
>>288330194She should probably already know that Kabuto buffed himself with Orochimaru's DNA and got his powers by now and that he joined "Madara", unless i'm supposed to believe neither of those info were told to her yet.
>>288330028You should stop speedreading the chapters.
>>288325196Does Deidara even realize that that's Tobi, and that his retard persona was just an act?
>>288330501I already commented on this, guess you speedread the thread.
>>288330058Speedreaders shouldn't be allowed to comment. Don't ask anymore questions anon
>>288330602War chapters aren't worth reading slowly
>>288330624You're not wrong but then don't ask stupid questions
>>288327131>NSFW artists reusing the kid design of character but with bigger proportions despite an adult design of said character already existing
>>288330671It's not really stupid when consider that Tokuma would logically accomplish what she's trying to do but much more effectively and easily due to his byakugan.
>>288330554No. I'm just reiterating you're retarded and somehow manage to speedread a daily dump. Quite impressive really.
>>288329508Anon... Anon! Samsui! Samsuuuiiii!
>>288330897I'm not the first nor am I going to be the last, so i dunno how that's impressive.
>>288330936https://files.catbox.moe/x0vo3a.jpeg
>>288330685It's really sad
Last one for today.https://files.catbox.moe/6eb46p.jpeg
>>288331227Can you do this one >>288329883 tomorrow please?
>>288331110Pretty sure that anon replying to you is the local shitposter who wants the daily to stop so he acts like a cunt to everybody over everything. Best to ignore.
>>288331110>I'm not the first nor am I going to be the lastGrim
>>288331334Retard
>>288331280Thats pretty hard for me i tried but failed ask the other ai slop anon to do it. Same goes fir the NS fags request.
>>288331387Thank you for your attempt anyway anon.
>all that destructive power>and suddenly everyone became stupidThe war was a mess
Left or right.
>>288332201Naruhina 4ever
>>288332201Left feels so right
Kishimoto sometimes write a really great stuff like naruto grief about jiraya but then doe stupid shit like thisI wish the editor told him to just go to other villages instead of doing retarded war and just condense the war into like 10 volumes instead of 21 (and no kaguya BS too)
>>288325324>>288325340>able to pinpoint two people out of a crowd of 80,000 and snipe them from hundreds of metres awaythis is a massive eyesight and long-range precision feat wtf lol
>>288332471Gaara has always been overpowered
>>288325186RE ENTER
This is a new low even for OP***k
>>288332607>censored Kek
>>288325311Is it wise to have both the youngest and least experienced kage act as commander in chief? Every other kage has served in a war
>>288332667this isn't much of a war so it doesn't really matter
>>288332607Did he multiply? Or is this just one indian posting and replying to ai porn
>>288325340>Everyone can hear him without a micVoice projection feat
Yeah I think the rankings is:Naburo>Naruto>>>>Boruto.Naburo just has way better pacing and characters
>>288326616Now?
>>288332471Gaara is the god of feats. He keeps consistently pulling feats everytime he uses his powers.
I knew the war would kill this daily
>>288333089Looks pretty "lively" to me
Yall niggas complaining about the daily im here trippin on how scary The high quality of those images are.Isn’t that frightening to see something immaculate and similar as if kishimoto wrote this and makes me wonder if this what ai can do today imagine what its capable of in 5 years.
>>288333306People are going to make their shitty fan fics into manga
>>288329772I assume just being formal because Kakashi also calls Jiraiya "master".
>>288331147That's a huge asshole!
>>288333306I can't wait anon. There are artists out there who will fix bad movies and TV shows and make amazingly detailed stories for us to enjoy. They just need the tools. And the porn will be insane.
Can anyone swap the genin designs to their shippuden designs.
>>288333864And i almost forgot change it to the background to the village
>>288325388>>288326701It was a good speech you fags
crazy how even after all the city-buster jutsu were introduced the Vermilion Rasengan is still the coolest in the series
>>288333901Nah
How long until this arc gets good
>>288334687never. the speech was the only really good part. madara is funny i guess but the fight feels cheesy and ridiculous.
>>288334687Around chapter 699
>>288325216Why not put a headband on him? The Senju will not be happy if they see this.
>>288335035Why would they care?
what do you think gaara's beat and worst scenes were?
whyd the thread die
>>288336149Not much to talk about.
>sasuke>targeted by gaara, a mentally ill freak at the time>targeted by orochimaru, a mentally ill freak>targeted by naruto, a-say it with me
>>288336385Faggot?
>>288336405a mentally ill freak, so yeah, i guess.sakura is also a mentally ill freak who wanted to watch him pee so she fits too.only sane person who had an obsession with sasuke might've been ino unless she was a freak in a way i don't know about.what is it with sasuke and mentally ill freaks obsessing over him?
>>288336385The only person who probably understood Sasuke the most was Tobirama.
>>288336487heh
https://files.catbox.moe/muu1at.png
>>288336276So much for the latter right ?
>>288336543Can i request an image.
>>288336543I'm a flat chest enjoyer, but Hinata's boobs should definitely be much bigger, it suits her
>>288336563Nah. He's always here. Don't worry.
>>288336543Can you please do pic related with nart and sakura but keep their cloths on just remove their pants while groping one anothers genitals ill leave you alone.>>288329695
>>288336686You sound brown
>>288336686I prefer more anal play with them maybe naruto sticking his finger or sakura literally ass fucking naruto desu
>>288336686SAAAAAR
>>288336710You sound gay.
>>288336716Ass fucking his face i meant*Chop chop get to it ai anon!
>>288336748>>288336716You mean you want her to ride her ass on his face you ESL faggot.
>>288336728Whatever you say, brown boy
It's scientifically proven that AI rots your brain.Stop posting it.
>>288336786Only low iq people use it. Not like they have much brain to rot anyway
>>288336786Shut up faggot posting on here rots your brain regardless.
>>288336814So you're going to speed up the process?
>>288336686>>288336765Why are you such a degenerate Sakon?
I'm still mad that the Edo Akatsukis jobbed so easily after being hyped thru the series
>>288336891Uh, that's clearly Joberoo.
>>288336900It makes sense somewhat. The ones alive improved, the edos only have an larger pool that means shit if they don't utilize it.Still, the execution overall was mid.
>>288336903Same diff
Deidara and Sasori alone gimped one of these 5 villages. The Shinobi Alliance is looking pretty cooked from this revived Edo Tensei. All it took was 9 terrorists i in drip to shake up ninja society a bit. Kabuto is basically covering for how retarded Tobi has been as a mastermind villain. Good speech Gaara.
>>288336934Why? When? How?
>>288325708sex with foid
>>288332201Right. Naruto might like Sakura more but seeing his disdain for dishonesty makes it combined with her responses later down the line a fucking mess.Also the Road to Ninja was the pinnacle of Sakura's faggotry. Why is she bitching that Naruto as an orphan couldn't understand her while Sasuke an orphan would.
>>288325396This is short as fuck, and I can't remember how I followed this shit weekly in the pastThanks OP
>>288325174>"Evil" is on the move
>>288336900I would rather have NO Edo Akatsuki and have them be improved in life
Honestly the chapter isn't that bad but still>dialogues are hard, understand?
>>288337371>Let's pose here and not invite Mei
>>288332700neither were any of the others, judging by the mere 30 or so total ninja who died in battle since the creation of the leaf village.
>>288336945I don't know what posessed Kabuto to team up with Tobi when he gains nothing from an all out war with the Shinobi world. It's an utter waste of resources.If he contributes to Tobi's downfall, he can grow and build his power in peace. Whatever goal he has or doesn't, with his current Edo summons and Snake sage abilities, nobody would be able to stop him.
>>288336900Meanwhile the jinchuriki jobbed to them through the series and then were suddenly threats after being dead.
>>288337371Ideally you'd want a manga to have good chapters every once in a while, but this entire set up is so completely fucked up in the first place, while also far from the scope of things Kishi is capable of, that the best possible result for the next 200 chapters is "it wasn't THAT bad".
>>288337450I actually think war beats some other arcs and is overhated due to glacial pacing. But these last 3 or 4 chapters I always got a "yeah these dialogues suck dick" moment or two. You can tell it's written for children.
>>288337450It's such a hamfisted and forced final conflict, the characters don't even know who/what/why/how they're fighting and can only spit out one-liners >we will win this war! yes! yes we will!>lets go, the war begins>my eye is itching for battle!'madara uchiha' is a lame an uninteresting villain whose only development so far is "remember that thing? yeah i was behind that too". and the war is just a poor rehash of past arcs, with obito's plan basically amounting to the exact same as pain's. kabuto's quote about the edo tensei "they'll turn into pure killing machines" is also the exact same line orochimaru said regarding the edos in chapter 119, which would be a cool nod if not for the fact that every aspect of this arc is just elements from past ones pasted together without identity.>oh lets have a massive bloodbath so we can draw naruto out and capture his 9 tails>while naruto is training somewhere far away the villain can't reach!>we need the rinnegan too because that was cool>and don't forget to bring back granny chiyo, asuma, dan, and zabuza so we can get some forced characterization for the living cast that i forgot to develop during their own arcs>itachi too because i have zero idea where sasuke is heading as a character so i need to wank big brother itachi again i actually like the concept of resurrecting the past kage we haven't seen much of, like gaara's dad, but kishi chose to resurrect literally everybody and i can't honestly recall any of these confrontations being well written at all.
>>288325367
>>288337762even the confrontation with gaara's dad was terrible. hilarious, but terrible.
>>288325367gaara's war outfit is so ugly and doesn't suit him at all.
>>288337450reminder that kishi was at his best when he had an editor.
>>288337450>the best possible result for the next 200 chapters is "it wasn't THAT bad"maybe if we had more than 1 chapter daily. the war arc felt worse when it was dripfed in one chapter every week. 1 chapter a day isn't much better plus we already know what happens.
>>288337762>i have zero idea where sasuke is heading as a characterthe part where he says he wants to be hokage is the best moment in the entire series.
>>288337520nah it was as bad as bad can get
>>288336945>Deidara and Sasori alone gimped one of these 5 villages.using sasori's insider knowledge. also kankuro powered up to get revenge.
>>288338002What advantage did they gain from Sasori's insider knowledge?
>>288338031he knew weaknesses in suna's defenses.
>>288338037Weaknesses such as all their ninja being weak jobbers?
>>288337520war arc might be better than the bridge arc with yamato and sai.
Akatsuki shouldn't have been dropping like flies.Pain arc shouldn't have ended with Nagato killing himself.Orochimaru shouldn't have been shelved so prematurely.Obito shouldn't have been the shadow leader of the akatsuki.Nagato should have jump started the 4th great Ninja War.Danzo should have became the Hokage immedately after Hiruzen's death and then later Tsunade takes the position.Make Sai, Danzo's son.Scrap Yamato. Replace him with a Jonin we know.Sharingan sharingan's main ability should be copy. Amaterasu should have been a forbidden Uchiha jutsu. Uchiha already have clan specific jutsu's in canon.Susanoo should have been a Hyuga clan secret technique.Maybe don't put Naruto through constant humiliation rituals for half of Shippuden.Naruto should have learned new tricks after the timeskip including umperfect sage mode and wind jutsus.Sakura should have been more useful after the first arc.
>>288338050iirc it had something to do with there being an easy way to sneak in. but suna does also have a bunch of jobbers for their ninja.
>>288338059>Susanoo should have been a Hyuga clan secret technique.why the hyuga?
>>288338060Deidara openly bombed them for minutes after sneaking in and there was nothing they could do about it.
>>288338083at the very least if gaara knew their location before they got in he wouldn't have had to fight deidara at a disadvantage.
jamsuke does talk to himself to bump the threads at these hours
>>288338072They already make chakra barriers with rotation. Might as well form it into armor
>>288338093Did that moment where Deidara threatened to bomb the village actually matter? There's a good chance I'm misremembering, but in my memory nothing Deidara did worked and then his arm got torn off and he won entirely thanks to that.
>>288338124he baited gaara by bombing the village. gaara has his own sand and the regular desert sand. his own sand moves faster which he used to save suna's citizens.somewhat indirectly, gaara "died" to save suna, which is ironic considering he used to fear death and was obsessed with his existence staying alive.
>>288338124forgot to mention: because he used the faster sand to save suna he had to use the sand with deidara's arm in it as his shield which backfired.
>>288338051Also beats Gaara save and Sasuke recovery possibly yeah even with the current bad dialogue>>288337762That's exactly as you say and it's funny because once they stop pretending it's a war and it's clear it's just a 2 vs 10000 (actually 2 vs 5 or something if we're only counting the ones that matter) with Obito and Madara, then the dialogues can start feeling natural again with Naruto calling out Obito directly.
Lee can punch kick and bounce chunin exams gaara in mid air and Gaara can take it and still retaliateMeanwhile, Hokage Gaara gets blindsided by a paper bomb sized clay bird and it knocks him the fuck out
>>288337371>>dialogues are hard, understand?what do you mean? i don't get it
>>288338234On the other hand genin Lee can punch through the sand defense with his fists, while explosions that oneshot biju can't even damage it.
>>288338228>and Sasuke recovery possibly yeah even with the current bad dialogueyou're on crack>>288338234an s rank criminal's explosives are stronger than a kid's punches. also iirc paper bombs worked fine against shukaku gaara when naruto kanchod him. but gaara's defense has always been inconsistent. he's resistant to fire but not paper bombs?chidori works but raikage thunder kick has no effect. but it could be inferred gaara and his chakra infusion into his sand got better i guess but i just have to kinda make something up here and assume shit.isn't it implied or stated deidara's bombs are heavily concentrated with c4 or something? they're not regular bombs. they're bombs on steroids. deidara beating gaara's defenses can at least be explained that way.>>288338276because he was so fast.
>>288338059>Danzo should have became the Hokage immedately after Hiruzen's death and then later Tsunade takes the position.how does sasuke retrieval work?
>>288329835>>288329867>Brothers are natural enemies. Like Konohas and Iwas. Or Kumos and Iwas. Or Suna and Iwas! Or Iwas and other Iwas! Damn Iwas! They ruined Iwagakure!
>>288338405You Iwagakure nin sure seem a contentious people.
>>288338059>Scrap Yamato. Replace him with a Jonin we know.just keep kakashi.
>>288338059Also use Akatsuki's hunt for jinchuriki to explore other villages and make them actually do something.
i'd just drop the jinchuriki plot outright. they don't fucking do anything with it except the retarded 10 tails shit. most the jinchuriki are irrelevant and the "balance" bullshit means nothing because half of kurama mogs the rest. there is no fucking balance.worst plotline and the entire reason part 2 is a step down from part 1.
holy shit, the only reason deidara has hand mouths is to explain how he beats gaara.best design.
>>288338503Well yeah, either drop it or do it well, either option is valid.
>>288338364Our heroes would simply go without any orders from their Hokage. It was a dumb "mission" Tsunade gave them to begin with. "Yea do this without any Jonins lol"
>>288338546does tsunade still save lee even if she has no reason to be in the leaf village? does the sand village still save the leaf ninja even without tsunade asking them for backup?
>>288338558Danzo could send someone since he should be worried about Naruto's safety. Sai can be introduced earlier. Shino can arrive.
>>288328012Half the things Sakura says here >>288327974 is TRACED from Hinata, lmao. Also>One panel>>288327803>>288327974>>288328012>>288328038Four pages of yapping that feels even more forced than Kishimoto's usual "deep" writing. Meanwhile all NaruHina needed is like one panel of Naruto blushing while making eye contact with Hinata after coming back to the village at the end of Pain arc and the same thing when Minato asks whether he has a girlfriend during the war.
>>288338597>Shino can arrive.better than writing him out for no reason.>saihe's such a nothing character though. i'd take lee and the sand ninja over him any day.
>>288338503there are too many really and none of them ever do anything of substance. kishi should've at least had a past akatsuki member die to one of the jinchuriki to help sell the idea that they're actually threats which lead to the akatsuki forming their duos system.though i'd say the reason part 2 is a massive step down from part 1 is the itemization of powers. it's written like a jrpg. go around collecting and leveling up your eyes and cells, pull a new power out of your ass without any kind of buildup like all it took was gaining 4 more exp points to 'unlock'. collecting the tailed beast chakra, obito retrieving the rinnegan, the sharingan eye-swapping, the bullshit to come with hashirama cells, chakra cloak enhanced shinobi army, partial 9 tails chakra sealed in fucking kinkaku being enough to start the 10-tails, edo tensei only requiring a small dna sample, the whole "you invented that jutsu but i perfected it... but actually you perfected it too but didn't show anyone!" with the edos.people just swap, trade, and borrow powers far too much in part 2, it makes a lot of character abilities feel incredibly uninspired and undeserved.
>>288338639Sai was pretty cool at the beginning of Shippuden. I guess Danzo could also request sand for back up for the same reasons Tsunade did. Though it was still a pretty insane gamble.
>>288338616Or basically something like this during that ending montage in 699. No words needed, just cut to their wedding since Kishi is too much of a pussy to show unmarried teens kissing. But that's assuming that he couldn't have shown Naruto and Hinata falling in love gradually and organically throughout the manga. Which he could have.
>>288338295>you're on crackNo, SRA was legitimately just that bad
>>288338643>itemization of powers. feels like a jrpgyeah, that too. now that you mention itand in general, part 2 made the world feel small and like everything revolves around the leaf.i hated the introduction of revival techniques too. it ruined most the suspense and stakesand everything revolves around finding sasuke.it's no longer about how the ninja world works anymore (beyond the cycle of hatred shit i guess).it's about finding sasuke and the cycle of masterminds who were behind every evil thing that happened in the world who also manipulated each other.like every development needs to be bigger and more bombastic than the last for some reason even though sasuke retrieval followed the chuunin exams and still felt cool. it's possible to have a lower stakes mission still feel high stakes.so why do we need all these evil world manipulating masterminds?and most shit just feels contrived and super convenient like chiyo just being super handy with a forbidden revival technique right when it's needed.or like temari being gone the day deidara attacked and suna being weak as shit and not having any flight ninja despite being in the land of wind.or orochimaru assisting danzo steal sharingans but not keeping any for himself despite being interested in uchiha powers.or like nagato sudokuing and reviving the konoha inhabitants because naruto didn't pursue revenge against him and proved him wrong about the cycle of hate because this 1 individual guy didn't fall into it.and just the magic eye haxx as a whole. and everything about kaguya and zetsu and hashirama cellsand part 2 pulls this "i cared about you all along" shit way too much.fuck rasa and fuck itachi.fuck minato for sudokuing for a stupid reason too>>288338726maybe if he was developed more. at the end of the day, i just wonder what the point of sai was. it seemed like team 7 eventually forgot about him in favor of sasuke. sai serves to flesh out danzo i guess and then he might as well not exist
>>288338768elaborate
>>288338779>and everything revolves around finding sasuke.everything revolves around finding someone. even people are items that need to be retrieved. i guess it started with the sasuke retrieval arc which was fine, but then part 2 opens with the gaara retrieval arc and everything after basically follows the same thing: i need X's body/eyes/chakra to complete my plan. the villains have the same overall goal as the heroes which makes it all feel the same. everyone wants to capture/find/save someone else and so much time is spent searching for someone who is searching for someone else who is searching for someone who is waiting for someone else to finish searching for them.the villains and heroes can all have unique motives, but when their method for realizing them amounts to the same thing (capture someone) they all start to feel the same.
>>288338779Sai was an agent for Danzo. Pretending to be a regular teammate but actually worked for the shadow government. The story just didn't use this for anything meaningful. There was no conflict between them about it because Sai became a good boi after few interractions with Naruto. Sai being placed in their team makes sense as Danzo inserting his reach over the villages nuke that is Naruto. Sai's development would have worked better if it was slower over the course of many arcs, reaching it's climax with Danzo's fall and death.
>>288338840>they all start to feel the same.yeah, kinda. i think that's partially the problem with the part 2 villains. they do have some unique quirks and a cool scene here and there.but idk. a lot of them do feel samey. maybe it's because of the group formation. the akatsuki is the akatsuki as a whole so they're all on the same mission in the end even if some members don't really care. you had the sound 4 too earlier on.it's not terrible to have villain organizations but i guess you don't get the same kind of unique character writing you'd get if the villain was just going about their individual goals.you don't get that same wondering for when orochimaru will randomly go after sasuke or when gaara will randomly go on the prawl.everything is telegraphed to you about what the akatsuki are doing and what they'll do next and half the time it is sitting around because they have to pull out the tailed beasts. there's just a lot of scenes of waiting around.and with the akatsuki in particular it felt like kishi was just going down a checklist with killing them off.and then there's the replacement of good villains with worse versions like kabuto replacing orochimaru.the heroes: most characters became irrelevant in part 2 and naruto started out frustratingly weak even though he trained with jiraiya again.and watching naruto obsess over sasuke for the hundredth scene just gets old quick.>>288338872yeah, they poorly implemented sai so in the end he just feels like a nothing character. he set up danzo's introduction and personality.
>>288338984It gets really grim, when instead of looking at Akatsuki you look at Pain, Obito and Madara, the main villains. All 3 of them are just super powerful eyehax guys who want world domination because people are bad.
>>288339059>Pain, Obito and Madara, the main villains. All 3 of them are just super powerful eyehax guys who want world domination because people are bad.yeah. pretty much.
>>288338803SRA has worse fights than the war and honestly not much better to make up for it elsewhere, the flashbacks are gay, the characters are gay, there isn't much of anything that isn't disappointing
>>288337421Just more of the hilarious state of the world, the old men of legend were around just a couple decades ago. It really is as if history was never recorded, or everyone expects to live to like 15 because there's just generational wars that kill 90% of the population, but somehow they spring back up to large villages of tens of thousands+ in a single generation.
>>288338643just obeying the rules of the universe that were set up in the first bloody arc would help. actually destroying the corpses of dead ninja ASAP, and make it a plot point when this isn't followed. Hell, establish the lore that this rule exists because Madara's corpse went missing after his supposed death to Hashirama, which more neatly ties his appearance into the later arcs.
>>288339259>sra has worse fights than reanimated jobbers and eyehaxx bullshit fighters and hashirama cells bullshitonly annoying thing is how many fakeout deaths sra had. and it was a missed opportunity to have gaara show up for naruto instead of just lee. would've made the kazekage arc less jarring.
>>288338364village elders hated his arse, and only granted him the role when literally nobody else was available. and even then it was only interim whilst waiting for Tsunade to recover.
>>288339168â…” of them also are Uchiha, and technically all three are tied to the same ocular jutsu because the sharingan is a variant of the rinnegan.
>>288339330some of this comes from the original implication that ninja society lived in the shadows of the Naruto world. the majority of the villages and villagers having little to do with the ninja side of things. I think early on its stated there is a civilian government in the villages who have nothing to do with the Kage role.
If one of the Jinchuriki were to be an Akatsuki member who would you pick?I think Han already has an antagonist vibe to him design wise.
>>288339811Gaara would fit. Sasori is already basically him but with Kankuro's techniques. Hidan also has shades of his psychopathy.
>>288339811none because that would make them suicidal.
>>288339870Sacrifices have to be made for a better world
>>288325174evil is on the move
i don't like how jinchuriki as a term just gets thrown around so much in part 2 like it was always a thing several of these characters knew about but just never mentioned. even characters who become close to naruto like iruka or kakashi or jiraiya never tell him he's a jinchuriki or that there are others like him in part 1.
>>288325186>lip glossthis fucking slut
>>288338726>Though it was still a pretty insane gamble.is danzo really the gambling type like tsunade is?
>>288340136Remember when being a jinchuriki was a big deal? And fighting one was basically suicide?Good times
how did the sand ninja even know where to look for the leaf ninja in sra?>>288340218yeah, good times...
>>288326616>now
>>288339811Naruto. He thinks Akatsuki are a force for good and being a goody two shoes joins them in suicidal fanaticism, but then after he killed many people and most other jinchuriki were killed with his help he realizes they played him and never had benevolent motives.
>>288340218It's pretty consistent how Naruto is the only one where his being a jinchuriki is a big deal.
>>288326616Anon, we've all been busting it to hebes for years
>>288339466Despite your buzzwords, war has objectively better fights. Just go look at Naruto, Guy and Kakashi vs Obito. It's better choreography than almost anything in part 1. And it's not even really that good, rather it's that Kishimoto finally was assed to draw fights instead of flashbacks.
>>288340669Brown take
>>288340740Instead of being retarded you could go and read these parts to provide evidence. I already made my point and provided mine.
Thank you to the thread kages. Our heroes.
>>288340136when Chiyo first introduced the term, didn't she word it in a way that implied only Sand elders were even aware of the concept? like, it was a term Sunagakure invented to describe their particular situation with the one tail.
>>288340340I could only see it if he turned against the Leaf. basically adopting a "I will burn this world to the ground so I can for once feel it's warmth" attitude.
>>288341012Konoha are the ones he has to turn against the least though, since they won't be a target without him there. If he's promised peace for sacrificing himself, he could do that, while thinking it is for the sake of the village even.
>>288340340Naruto joining the REAL Akatsuki after sparing Nagato and going MIA with him would've been so cool in a world where Amegakure doesn't get memoryholed
>>288341049>fuck this village, if they don't want me then I'll just leave>*gets picked up by the Akatsuki immediately*>this whole "jinchuriki" thing sounds like hell, and I like your plan to end it and bring about peace so nobody else has to suffer what I did. hey, I want to help you collect the other jinchuriki, so in the meantime can I join the gang?at that point it becomes a discussion on whether Nagato/Obito would allow a jinchuriki to join.
>>288325396At the moment this chapter came out I still thought the war will be exciting and feature underutilized characters a lotHow wrong I was
>>288340188>>288325186
>>288337961Nooooo we have to stay to 1 chapter only and suffer the shitty war arc!
>>288338741>Or basically something like thisWho would be Naruhina's Great Door Guardian, though?
>>288337961>1 chapter a day isn't much betterIt's 7 times better. That's good enough for me.
>>288325347The there is no left no right fags are Narutard. Makes sense.
>>288341340No it's not. It's entirely different when this is a weekly thing and nobody knows the story or what's going to happen next, now we all know the rest of the story is trash. 1 chapter a day for an arc we know is trash is way worse than 1 a week for a story we are all reading for the first time.
>>288338059>>288338461Nice suggestions.
>>288338059Shit suggestions>>288338461Obvious suggestion
>>288338059>Susanoo should have been a Hyuga clan secret technique.Just scrap susanoo al together or at least make it mega rare.>Naruto should have learned new tricks after the timeskip including umperfect sage mode and wind jutsus.Naruto was barely competent in part 1. He needed to at least have base level skills to go forward.
>>288341547>Just scrap susanoo al together or at least make it mega rare.Itachi should still have it imo>Naruto was barely competent in part 1. He needed to at least have base level skills to go forward.True but he could have both; having his fundamentals improved and also learning some new jutsu + setting the foundations for sage mode
>>288341547Naruto was very competent until the Sasuke retrieval arc humiliation ritual where he lost to Jirobo, Sakon, Tayuya, Bedridden Lee (in Fox Mode) and Sasuke (in every form he had)
>>288341547If the timeskip is dedicated to basic training, he shouldn't get insane powerups that give 10x the boost every other arc afterwards.
True OTP
>>288325396God Tsunade's tits are a blessing
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>>288341547Naruto learned the multi shadow clone jutsu in the very first chapter FROM A FUCKING SCROLL. He was 100x less skilled than he was at the beginning of part 1.There is no excuses for him to train with Jiraiya for 500+ days and somehow to not have time for one or two new jutsu lessons
>>288343129*at the end of part 1
So we all agree that Sakura is for piss/scat, Tenten is for anal and Tsunade for SS and paizuri.What other fetishes for the kunoichi do we all agree on?
>>288339811>>288339948>Which black man should join the KKK?
>>288341308Neji
>>288341547What basic level skills did Bumraiya taught him?
>>288343609How to suck dick like a pro
>>288341355But there is no left or right, you inbred. There are those in power, and those in shackles. Like it had always been.
Why was this thread so degenerate?
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