It's out, let's go read it!
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>>288688595I think him being the 'pearl' of a clam is how he becomes the actual falcon of light
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>>288688648Luv Caska, simple as
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>>288688671>>288688678who's the naked lady?
>>288688678Mommy Flora
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>>288688678why does a spirit need nipples?
>>288688682>who's the naked lady?Flora. Jesus fucking Christ.
>>288688564>The only thing that can be done is...BERSERK
>>288688689>>288688691To offer sustenance to strugglers born in the interstice?
>>288688678>Nipples.Nice
>>288688696Robbed of a mother's love at birthLeft to drown in bloodHe was to die beneath her corpseMeant to rot in a cesspit of despairBorn to die as a waste of airRaised as a child, one shorn of fateIn a fit of rage, he knows a violent destinyWill await only life by sword shall reignAnd he never to death be slain
>>288688692calm down dudeI've legit face blindness and pseudo-dementiaI can't remember character names and sometimes plot points any more.Being mentally ill sucks
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>>288688686almost like guts is in her womb kinda acting like his mother just throwing out ideas
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>>288688692granny was hot in her day
>>288688707Sorry, anon. Mistook you for another speedreader. Take care of yourself, bro.
>>288688564I TURNED MYSELF INTO A CABBAGE SERPICOI'M CABBAGE GUUUUTS
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>>288688703>My love for you is like a truck>BERSERKER.
>>288688736I'M BORN AGAIN, HALLELUJAH
>>288688746This is why Flora has nipples.
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>>288688754Guts' encounter with Citch confirmed a result of being born in the interstice, haters gonna hate but I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THISAnyway chapter over. Two more chapters coming out?
>>288688763>Two more chapters coming out?let's hope sobeen waiting too long
>>288688703Huh, I never noticed the parallel to Odin hanging from the Yggdrasil. Really should have seen that one considering how many other obvious ones there are.
>>288688763i wonder if someone could dump the idea of evil chapter
>>288688780Odin and Guts are both missing an eye, craft some schizokino for me out of this
>>288688801Odin is also a god of Frenzy, and dies by being devoured by a Wolf.
>>288688796Give me a hot minute
>>288688796>>288688864Okay here it comes.
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Here's my newly formed theory on possible events.>As we know, Guts exists outside of causality due to being born from a corpse (death) (This was already known for a long time)>As it turns out, Griffith was REBORN from a still-born fetus (death) when the egg picked up the demon fetus>This fetus comes from Guts, who exists outside of causality, and was never part of the plans of the idea of evil/god hand/causality that shackles everything in the story to a set path>Therefor, it is possible that Griffith now also exists outside of causality in a similar way to Guts. Whether this is known to Griffith or not is obviously unclearI think it's possible that this may result in Griffith making a major decision that is not at all within his predestined path or any sort of prophecy. What that is, I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me whatever he does is specifically done to fuck over the idea of evil. I can only imagine he's absolutely livid over having never truly had any control over his own life and destiny and it going the way it did.
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>>288688692are we 100% sure thats really her
>>288688879>>288688886>>288688890why wasn't this chapter included in the volumes again?
>>288688890>>288688895Miura didn't want to include it because it revealed too much or something
>>288688892yeah
>>288688895miura had it remove because it told to much of the story so it might hold something we can connect to this chapter
>>288688892Yes, she's appeared in the sane form before.>>288688900
The fucker.
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>>288688909Got me good.
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>>288688900yeah he felt like it might limit his future options but he never outright denounced it or anything
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>>288688952Chosen one? WTF BERSERK SUCKS NOW
>>288688962Griffith's character-defining moment, unknown to those who didn't read the forbidden chapter
>>288688947>>288688952In retrospect these don't really connect well to the released chapters, considering God Hand are clearly working with a collective agenda in mind that isn't just about them being themselves. Miura's ideas about this evil god probably changed substantially later in his career as well
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>>288688981And that's the end of that chapter.
>>288688922So are we seeing some connection between this and >>288688678>>288688686
>>288688987GRIFFITHHHHHHHHHHHH!
>>288688997that why i asked if are we sure thats flora
>>288688807>>288688801So, miura handscript is >Just make Gutt based on Odin?
>>288688763Honestly, good chapter. I've enjoyed it.Some really good pages as well.
>>288689010Mat from Wheel of Time is also Odin but a lot of people seem to miss that
Decades in the making
>>288689016It's got more of those Miura-style panels like>>288688608>>288688718I always associated these tall thin vertical panels with three artists: Kentaro Miura, Todd McFarlane and Dave Sim, and I know McFarlane got them from Sim.
>>288689016best one since his passing
>>288689010I don't think it's worth reading anything into it beyond the surface level, but it may hint towards other events that may or may not happen. Miura was a nerd for Western mythology, fantasy, and art so there's tons of references spread through out his work.
>>288689016>>288689038The reception to the translated chapter seems like a 180 from the thread we had yesterday lmao
>>288689016i liked how the white part of his hair pointed toward the one moment of decency in his youth>>288688696
>>288689049It's quiet hours so the rabble rousers aren't here
>>288688618Guts regrets killing people LMAOWho knew this turd would get even worse with the translation
>>288689046>Miura was a nerd for Western mythology, fantasy, and artThe only japanese work worth anything is exactly like that, see Souls games
>>288689046And it turns out that art is from Terada not Miura. How embarrassing.
>>288689068Guts was completely shaken up by Adonis' death though, are you retarded or just pretending to?
>>288689029I could tell there was a solid vision given by Miura behind it.I can read it and say: "Yes, this is something I can see him writing"
>>288689037Also>>288688689>>288688696>>288688703Are a good imitation
>>288689068On hindsight he probably does yeah because he did it all for an asshole who betrayed him and his friends.
>>288689068>>288689090Guts showing remorse is compeltely out of character for him. He's always enjoyed killing and been callous towards others. Look at this, he's staring into the eyes of his victim to relish the moment the light goes out in his eyes. Guts is a sick fucking psychopath just like me.
>>288689099You say imitation, but it's not too farfetched to assume his studio did the heavy lifting while Miura was alive, he did the comp sketches but he didn't ink it alone
>>288689054Nice catch. Cool detail
>>288689113>Yippee kiyay, little bitch.>Man all this killing has got me thirsty, where can a I find a nice tallboy
>>288689139Is this Freeman's Mind?
>>288689120Yeah, unfortunately we do know how much the studio did and how much it was Miura.There are some things they truly get, while others not so much.For example, they get Griffith right but Casca is just... I just love how they actually got her right here >>288688689 in her younger days
So "half" of Guts is in the spirit realm. Does that mean Beast of Darkness isn't just a figment of his psyche artistically rendered but an actual spirit being?
>>288688671>Hear>Think>Feel
>>288689163Beast of Darkness is a figment of his imagination that has enough sway over his berserker armor form, but nothing beyond that as of now. Maybe Miura had plans to manifest that beast as something even more physical but we'll never know
>>288689179But it did appear inside Caska's mind in Corridor of Dreams. Or was it just a coincidence that there happened to be a friendly Guts-Dog there?
The artwork is so bad holy fuck wow
>>288688763So guts is Yang and Griffith is Yin? Its Asura and Indra all over again
>>288689280>indraanon, i...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiJipZxnAY8
Every chapter since miura has died is very slowly retroactively tainting the whole series, the writing is horrible, the artwork is horrible. These people producing it are greedy hacks who clearly don't give a shit, and have no fucking idea what they're doing.
>>288689310Faggots complaining about art are the worst, youre not in the wrong for hating the story, but artworks have been very good, and in cases like griffith a direct upgrade over what miura used to draw
>>288689068He always felt bad about being a walking disaster, even in the black swordsman arc.
>>288689320the current griffith definitely looks more imposingmiura's griffith just started to look too much like a girl by the end, instead of a handsome man
>>288688696who's that on the bottom right? I don't remember him
It's been 5 years since Miura passed away
>>288689344shisu the woman who adopted guts
>>288689320sorry anon the art is genuinely lackluster. It does show that they put tons of efforts in it, but the foundation is lacking. t. artfag
>>288689310Im pretty sure theres not a single series you actually like, anon.
>>288674210it seems like he's the only person who read the manga and didn't just skim in.Berserk boomers grew up with comics, and comics are DENSE, lots of info in those few pages where panels have a ton of detail due to the sizes being bigger than a manga volume. Berserkboomersan i kneel, Berserk ended with Miura
>>288689320>>288689436You're retards, sorry you have such shit taste. Have fun eating up the slop, dumb slobs.
>>288688678Nipple!
>>288689452I'm more impressed by the fact that the poster has clearly read Berserk for decades and still doesn't get it.
>>288688763Anyone who hates this is blind about the elf ears
Story by ONE
>>288688763I don't get it, Guts is a nobody. How is he in any way similar to Griffith
>>288689514Griffith was a nobody too
>>288689452I took that guy's Berserk quiz years ago and I got like a 6/20 despite having read it countless times. He's like an encyclopedia, he's 100% correct about the shitty nu-serk and anons who make fun of his passion are jealous, have no rebuttal so just resort to saying "cringe."
>>288688718this is a pretty cool page
>>288689514it literally says why on that very page, anon
This is the most the plot has moved in 25 years. Puts into perspective how much time miura wasted on fantasia.
>>288689527Imagine if he had been half as critical about miura's work
>>288689555and im a homo who has no loads refused parties, but we are the same because we use 4chan
I already know what the ending is going to be Guts forgives Griffith and the two of them destroy the god hand and kill the demon god.Griffith will fade away from existence and let Gut's son live in peace.
>>288689567ok bro
>>288689560>This is the most the plot has moved in 25 years. Puts into perspective how much time miura wasted on fantasia.What were Miura's worst chapters?
>Skull Knight was wrong againWhy are they like this?
>>288688564Huh? Isnt the guy that wrote this dead?
>>288689588Yeah this happens shortly after Guts goes Super Saiyan after Silat is killed in front of him
>>288689602In terms of pacing? The Chitch Chapters>Guts just had a confrontation with Ganishka and Zodd>The party is together for the first time in ages>Time for a 3 chapter flashbackAnd the worst part of it is that it kick started a sub arc that's so poorly paced it became a meme
>>288688648Dark souls
>>288689068Chapter 2 has guts crying at the end
>>288689609yeah but that ain't stopping him
>>288689625>And the worst part of it is that it kick started a sub arc that's so poorly paced it became a memewhich was?
>>288689638Boat arc, numbnuts
>>288689609No..? What on earth are you talking about.
I like this explanation.
>>288689662We've known this since Golden Age, it's just Guts is now forced to accept it
>>288689527Your quiz sucked.
>>288689662do you want me to go and updoot your post for you?
>>288689602The Ganishka arc feels really bad, even when re-reading it just doesn't flow well. The sea god and boat arc probably take the cake though. That stuff was so unbelievably bad and wasted years.
>>288689602There's parts of Golden Age that feel like episodic garbage
>>288689527Nah he's an autist that's arguing in bad faith
>>288688564Oh nice, the translationLet's see what we got
>>288689685Greetings from India, I hate the KushansMiura should've used the Kurus instead
>>288688703That's one damn good page.>>288688763That was a good chapter indeed.
>>288689564If there is one good thing to come from Miura's passing, it's no more Star Wars Puck.
>>288689702He's the kind of autist that will correct you on every opinion that differs from his, thus rendering any kind of discussion completely useless... unless of course you agree with him completely. These faggots should have moved on already like any sensible person would
>>288688576Based
>>288689049More like the forum shitposters are sleeping.
>>288689608Hate blinds.
>>288689608>>288689727wrong about what?
>>288689731Too long to explain, see the post linked here>>288689452
>>288689452Kinda cringe essay desu. > This character can never have character development because that would mess with my autism He's probably too stupid and autistic to realize he's arguing for causality with his retard essay.> Guts can only do this and that because that's how it's always been and that's how things would causally flow What a fucking dumbass.
>>288689560Miura already said guts will meet grifith again and the story is 80% done, retard
>>288689739let me upload the image to ChatGPT and ask for a TLDR
>>288689049The shonen sloppers are many. Nobody with actual taste or read berserk expect normalfags to hate it.
>>288688671>>288688710>>288688718Huh, is she saying he's a mix of normal and supernatural because of the way he was born?I guess it makes sense.
>>288688564>Guts in a hamster ballI hate Mori so much
>>288689763Yes, she's saying what Skull Knight implied when he first met Guts as seen here>>288688909>>288688916
>>288689527you mean this one?https://www.skullknight.net/berserkquiz/quiz_html5.htmlye its a bit too hard desu
>>288689514Griffith was reborn using the body of the magic fetus who also was born from a mix of physical and ethereal.
>>288688763What are the chances of Guts is a piece of the Idea of Evil that it shot out as an act of rebellion against itself or to just transcend itself or to experience (for) itself? It can't do as it wills, it can only be as function. It would be so fucked up though. That all the things Guts went through, were born out of this thing's desire to be outside itself. It could be its own "Do as thou wilt" moment.
>mfw we got chosen one'd againwew lads, this is where i drop it, even if it was actually miura, this trope triggers my autism in a visceral way, i can't keep reading it
>>288689662They way I take it is that Guts is special by birth but he is the only one to shape his fate, this is opposed to griffith whose role was preordained all along. I don't know why the nutjobs are trying to pretend this chapter lessens Guts struggle while this is actually the opposite.
>>288689731He read a machine translation and accidentally proved the continuation is very faithful to what Miura intended. Total KWAB territory.
>>288689113Guts wouldn't agonize over random enemy soldiers like he did on that page. Adonis's death has never haunted him either, even though he isn't a heartless monster who mows down innocents without a second thought. He's a hardened warrior with a brutally straightforward worldview, waxing melancholic about having killed enemy sodliers is absurdly out of character.
>>288689608Neurosis.
>>288689844>chosen oneCompletely off the mark take. Griffith is a chosen one, Guts is special, there's a huge nuance there.
>>288689844Almost every manga you will ever read has a protagonist "chosen" by their author. Or else you'd be reading a manga about a janitor who never does anything of note.
>>288689796That is an actually autistic quiz that's of no consequence>Which chapter did X happen>How many chapters are up to XOh fuck off
>>288689796This full of so many gotchas that it feels in bad taste
>>288689915Black mothafuckin Clover
A man being born and continuing to live despite supposed to never living at all is one of the more compelling "special one" traits.
>>288689918>>288689927t.not real berserk fans
>>288689959This is why Skull Knight is the worst parts of the fandom
Really good chap, maybe one of the best since Miura's passing, don't get the hate.
>>28868979612/20Wtf were half of these questions?
>>288689844Griffith is a literal chosen one, as stated by the Idea of Evil. Guts is someone who can move outside the causal chain. Griffith is chosen, Guts chooses.A man chooses, a slave obeys.
>>288689991What, you don't keep a tally of how many covers a character appears in?
it's a lot like griffith's perspective in chapter 82, more than it is like the idea of evil chapter
>>288689945> Shonen darkie spotted One piss just buck broke you guys by turning the underdog into the chosen one.A protagonist being special doesn't mean "he's the chosen one". But then you're probably extremely low IQ and got brown skin and lack the necessary nuance to understand these things.
So this is clearly some sort of rebirthing ritual.What's going to happen in the next two chapters we're getting soon? Because as far as I can tell it's not like he's getting some Berserker Armor Super Saiyan 2 power-up from this, he's just going to get out of his depressed slump
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>>288688763Great chapter, it was Miura-tier even. Better than when Miura was at his worst writing and art wise.I believe in Mori and Studio Gaga now
>>288690019Luffy was never an underdog anyway. All that criticism feels like people took Rock Lee from Naruto and pretended Luffy was him.
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>>288690019Huh?
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>>288690035First chapter since tower of conviction arc that made me feel like reading berserk again.Fantasia was such a chore to read.
>>288689991>Which chapter does Guts lose his arm?>How many chapters were released up to volume 35?>Which Chapter does Ganishka first appear in?
>>288690018>>288690030>>288690041It's like poetry, it rhymes
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>>288690019Bacterium like (You) unironically make me feel embarrassed to bleed red
>>288690066Eugh, Mori turned Griffith into a moralfag too? Why would he care about dead people?
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Gotta wonder how the next few chapters are going to play out. Surely this isn't it and Guts isn't "fixed" with a one chapter introspection right? I suppose Miura already did that with the Godo chapter
Is Young Animal a weekly magazine?
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>>288690040The entire discussion around "chosen" protagonists is psychotic and probably largely driven by neckbeard retards with little to no reading comprehension. They basically want every story either to be a slice of life or some puritan morality play about the mouse who fell into the cream and churned it into butter by struggling so much.
>>288690083Fortnightly
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>>288690087guts here is framed more like the "unchosen"an existence that slipped through the grasp, which was never meant to be
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>>288689068>Guts regrets killing people LMAOUh yes, have you even read the fucking manga?
>>288690091So one more chapter in June, then one in July?
>>288690087My interpretation here is that Guts isn't so much the chosen one as just a person that fate forgot due to the circumstances of his birth, hence why he can struggle against it.
>>288690110Yeah late June and early July
>>288690110>episode 385 will release on June 26 and episode 386 will release on July 10.
>>288690097>>288688728Yeah I'm starting to see it
>>288690101It's neither. Guts is interesting and special and his will to live that made him from a stillbirth into a fully grown swordsman is due to his own tenacity. Of course this is more special than your average janitor and means of all hypothetical character his authors chose him.
>>288690121>>288690122Neat!
Having read the full essay, I can tell you this is not really a review of Chapter 384.It's a fundamental rejection of the entire post-Miura continuation, with Chapter 384 serving as the latest piece of evidence.The author's central thesis is:Studio Gaga and Kouji Mori do not understand Berserk's core themes, characters, metaphysics, or symbolism. As a result, Chapter 384 isn't merely a bad chapter—it actively rewrites what Berserk is about.Everything else flows from that.The author's biggest complaint: Guts is becoming a Chosen OneThis is the heart of the essay.The new chapter reveals that because Guts was born from a hanged corpse, he was somehow "born in the Interstice."Flora presents this as something important.The author absolutely hates this idea.Why?Because he believes Berserk's entire point is that:Guts is not special.Not in a mystical sense.Not in a destiny sense.Not in a prophecy sense.Not because he possesses hidden powers.Guts is special because:he surviveshe struggleshe refuses to quitThe author argues that Miura deliberately built Guts as the opposite of a chosen-one protagonist.The author thinks Berserk deliberately rejected this trope.Guts was:born under a corpseraised by mercenariesabusedtraumatizedYet he still became extraordinary.The essay argues that Chapter 384 changes that message into:"Actually Guts was special from birth."The author sees that as a betrayal of Berserk's core identity.Why the author keeps comparing Guts to GriffithThis is another major point.The chapter apparently frames Guts' birth in a way that parallels Griffith.The author thinks this is completely wrong.His argument is:Griffith is special because of destinyGriffith's entire story revolves around:causalityfatedestinyGod Hand manipulationGriffith is the chosen one.Always was.
>>288689979Ikr fr bro, it's so cringe and autistic to have read something so many times you can remember what chapter or volume things take place in. That's why I prefer Youtube video essays, 4chan shitposts and updooting hecking awesome cosplays on the Berserk subreddit
>>288690146Guts is special because he fights destinyThat's the contrast.The author sees Berserk as:Griffith:destined to riseGuts:refuses to submitGriffith:chosen by fateGuts:rejects fateGriffith:supernaturalGuts:humanThe author believes Chapter 384 collapses this distinction.Instead of opposites:Guts and Griffith become:two different versions of special birth.And he thinks that's a disaster.The essay spends enormous effort explaining why the Interstice retcon makes no senseThis is the most technical part.The author basically says:The manga already explained what the Interstice isAccording to Miura:Guts entered the Interstice after becoming branded.That's why spirits can see him.That's why supernatural beings interact with him.Simple.The new chapter claims:Guts was already born in the Interstice.The author says:"Wait a second."If that were true:why didn't spirits appear throughout his childhood?why didn't Skull Knight mention it?why didn't Flora mention it?why didn't Schierke mention it?why didn't anyone ever notice?The author believes the new chapter directly contradicts established lore.That's why he repeatedly uses the word:retcon
>>288688718>churning of le ocean
>>288689844Retard
>>288690146> Ai slop Retarded btw.That being said, what even constitutes a "chosen one" in the world of berserk? The idea of evil chose Griffith, meanwhile Griffith chose guts.
>>288690154He thinks the continuation misunderstands why Griffith is powerfulThis is another major argument.The author spends several paragraphs explaining Griffith.His point is:Griffith isn't untouchable because of Interstice stuffGriffith is untouchable because:he's Femtohe's God Handhe manipulates realityThat's it.The author thinks the continuation is inventing an entirely different explanation.Something like:Griffith is special because of Interstice reasons.Then:Guts can fight him because he was also born in the Interstice.The author sees that as a massive misunderstanding.He believes Guts' depression is being handled incorrectlyAnother recurring theme.The author argues:Miura's GutsWhen he failed:he became angryobsessedself-destructiveBut active.Always active.Continuation GutsAfter Griffith kidnaps Casca:catatonicpassivewants to diebarely thinks about CascaThe author repeatedly says:This is not how Guts behaves.He isn't saying Guts can't break emotionally.He's saying:Even broken Guts remains a struggler.The continuation's version feels inactive.He thinks Flora is being used as a plot deviceA smaller criticism.Flora appears and explains everything.The author argues:Why Flora?Why not Danan?Why not someone else?His answer:Because the writers needed exposition.Not because Flora was naturally the right choice.The essay repeatedly accuses the continuation of constructing scenes based on convenience rather than character logic.
>>288690151Isn't the Berserk Reddit moderated by a bunch of SK guys?
>>288690091F-Fortnite? YOOOOO
>>288690146>>288690154>>288690172This is like 2.5 posts too long already lol
>>288690172The "It's all busywork" argumentThis comes up over and over.The author feels Chapter 384 exists solely to move Guts from:State A:brokentoState B:healedwithout properly earning it.His complaint isn't that Guts recovers.His complaint is:the chapter manufactures a reason for recovery.The Interstice revelation doesn't solve Guts' emotional problems.Yet the story treats it as transformative.The author thinks that's dramatically unconvincing.The AI accusationThe AI section at the end gets attention because it's provocative.But it isn't really the main point.He's not literally proving AI was used.He's saying the continuation resembles AI-generated writing because it:copies recognizable Berserk imageryreuses famous scenesmixes concepts togetherdoesn't understand the underlying meaningIn his view Chapter 384 feels like:"Berserk-flavored content"rather than Berserk.The AI comparison is basically an insult.What he's actually angry aboutUnderneath all the lore discussion, he's angry about one thing.He thinks Miura's Berserk was built around this idea:A completely ordinary human being can challenge impossible odds through sheer will.Chapter 384 appears to move toward:Guts was secretly special all along.To the author, that change destroys the philosophical foundation of Berserk.That's why the essay is so long.It's not really about Flora.It's not really about the Interstice.It's not really about Chapter 384.The author believes Chapter 384 reveals a completely different understanding of who Guts is, and if he's right, then the continuation's ending could feel fundamentally different from the story Miura spent 30+ years building.
>>288689095Then you a are a retard who read Berserk with his ass
>>288688900>>288688906>>288688922>>288688930Kick ass name and origin, always loved the Idea of Evil.
>dedicated threads schizo at it againWelp,am out
>>288690151And despite all that, still completely misunderstands the chapter
>>288690175I dunno, I'm don't use reddit or that forum and never have. Point is, there's never any room in any fandom to make someone out to be cringe for being "too knowledgeable" about the thing they're a fan of. If you do, you're unironically a filthy normie. If someone else can recall the chapter Guts last farted in and you can't, that's one thing. But if they can rattle off basically everything that has happened in each chapter, you have to accept that they're more knowledgeable about the thing you're both a fan of than you are. Not call them autistic/cringe/nitpicky.
>skullknightards
I feel like for Miura puritans, chapter 364 works as a fine if abrupt ending anyways. No need to read further.We finally get Casca and Guts together with their boy, traumatized by the events but not broken by them, and Griffith appears to express his regret and loneliness.The rest of the story is only ever going to be Guts and Griffith doubling down on their vendetta. But the crux of it is already there in that ending.
>>288690214You're just low IQ. Memorizing how many doors appear in berserk is an impressive feat of retarded autism but it doesn't mean you actually understand anything about the manga itself or it's themes. It just means you autistically latched onto obscure trivia.In the same way arguing for a fixed trajectory for guts based on previously written things argues for causality, something which the themes of berserk make clear guts is outside of.
>>288689588They're just gonna hug it out.
>>288690214NTA bnowing how many times x appeared between volumes y and z is not worthwhile knowledge and if you know it you have mental health problems that need to be addressed, it goes beyond enjoyment and into full-blown schizo territory where you find hidden messages in how many times a certain word is used in the Bible or how often the number 23 appears in your daily life
>>288690214>there's never any room in any fandom to make someone out to be cringe for being "too knowledgeable" about the thing they're a fan ofThe issue is that their interpretation comes from a complete lack of understanding of what's happening in the chapter. Look at it like this>The chapters lead up has Daiba saying that Guts needs to look inward and accept who he is>The autist is saying that it features new revelations making Guts a chosen one when the content says the opposite It's honestly as simple as that. He's so blinded by rage that he is choosing to interpret the chapter wrong and isn't linking it up with his knowledge. These aren't new revelations to the reader, they're parts of Guts journey that he's overlooked and is just now being forced to confront about himself. Is Guts "fixed"? Who knows. The chapter is ambiguously ended before an actual resolution is struck and we'll need to wait for subsequent chapters.
>>288688710>>288688718>Born in the intersticeThis is a retconHere's what canon states >>288680832>You are in the interstice FROM NOW ON>Why>Because YOU ARE BRANDEDMori is a lying swindler and this chapter has nothing to do with Miura
>>288690263The brand draws evil spirits to him. Being born from a dead mom doesn't. I see nothing wrong here.
berserk was always gonna be fucked after miura. i guess the question is how much can it get raped?
>>288688763I don't understand how this is a meaningful reveal? We believed that Guts was in an Interstice because of the Eclipse, but what does him always having been in one change?
>>288690263>This is a retconIf it is (it isn't) then the retcon happened at the start of the Boat Arc.
>>288690289Read on and find out?
>>288690289All it really shows is that he's not bound by causality, which we've known since Golden Age - pre Eclipse
So did Skull Knight kill members of the God Hand in the past or not?Did Void really rape his wife?
>>288690303>So did Skull Knight kill members of the God Hand in the past or not?I don't think a guy that could kill the Godhand would be travelling the world eating Behelits for the specific purpose of finding a way to kill the Godhand. The most popular theory is that due to the 216 years cycle, they're all cycled out as new interpretations and copes for Evil ar devised by man.
People interpreting this to mean that Guts is a "chosen one" instead of existential anomaly is such a weird reading.Now, you can argue if this is a good thing or not all you want, that's fine, but to see it as a chosen one thing is stretching meaning so far.
>>288690286>The brand draws evil spirits to himYes and is also the reason why he's in the interstice FROM NOW ON, retarded monkeySee how balanced Miura has written it - it's both a curse and a blessing
>>288690315You seem upset.
So what's the deal with Skull Knight. Is he an ex-Godhand or something? For a guy that's been around for 1000 years he seems to have a lot of knowledge specific to them, and knew about cycles such as the Reincarnation Ceremony which in itself only happens once every 1000 years. At best he was around for 2 years before the first one. So who was reincarnated from the Godhand 1000 years ago?
>>288690292No, it didn't. Feel free to provide actual proofs to your retarded statement
>>288690313I'm taking it to mean that Causality and Fate missed him, so he's not bound to it. He slipped through the cracks.
>>288690315>>288690263Now that it has been established that Mori retconned Nuserk, how do we hold him responsible for raping the manga?
>>288690325Chitch.
>>288690324He's Emperor Gaiseric. Void, his advisor, became the newest member of the Godhand back in the day.
>>288690320You seem destroyed by fact that your favourite fanfic isn't real Berserk, despite whatever bullshit Moricuck has twitted
>>288690286He would've been seeing dead people and astral creatures from day one. Furthermore he spent a lot of time around battlefields, which attract evil spirits. Meaning Guts and anyone near him would've gotten attacked and possessed. Guts being in the interstice since his birth is hard-contradicted by the manga itself, I can't believe some of you faggots are actually lapping this nonsense up.
ESL here, what even is Causality?
>>288690341>this is the post written by a calm and collected personKek, I have no horse in this race
>>288690340Okay. So how does Skull Knight know so much about entities that for all intents and purposes show up once every 216 years for 30 minutes and haven't been able to do anything but nudge humanity for 1000 years?
>>288690350Berserks version of the concept of fate. Skull Knights favourite phrase.
>>288690350Cause-and-effect. Why does a glass fall from a counter? Because a cat pushes it. This is causality. We are all caugh up in it.
>>288690151BROO GUTS GOT A POWERUP WE"RE GONNA GET A COOL FIGHT FOR TIKTOK EDITSAYOOOOOO GUTS STRONGER THAN GOKU
>>288690303>So did Skull Knight kill members of the God Hand in the past or not?Either they are replaced cyclically during eclipse or they were killed>Did Void really rape his wife?Unknown but there was the story of Gaiseric locking a wizard in the Tower of Conviction. Presumably this was Void.It's not unthinkable that there was a similar dynamic going on between Gaiseric, Void and the woman, as with Guts, Griffith and Casca.
>>288690357He was friends with wizards and shit
Does Femto have some understanding of the flow of causality? Look at what happened as a result of him raping Casca in front of Guts >Child is corrupted directly leading to his rebirth and a direct tie to Casca and Guts >Casca was mind broken and Guts seeks out magic users as a means to cure her, which he then attacks>Guts leads Griffith directly to Elfhelm and he manifests and sinks the island, the biggest spirit tree is now deadDid he know all this shit would happen?
>>288690332You don't need to be in the interstice to see elves. Only someone with both reading comprehesion of toddler and terminal dementia would say something like this after seeing countless of ordinary characters seeing elves no problem
>>288690382Nice. I wish I had friends who were wizards and shit.How do they know all this shit? I get they have an understanding of the astral world and they can dip in to it and call the 4 Kings etc but the Godhand exist in the deepest realms and don't seem to be able to manifest in the same way the 4 Kings can when they're called
>>288690393Guts is outside causality so his kid would be too. I think Griffith managing to reincarnate with Moonboy has helped him escape causality himself, hence why he and Guts are the same now
>>288690400Maybe somebody just asked the Godhand?>Hey, you! What's your deal?>Well the thing about us is that...
>>288690340There's nothing to say those ones next to him are godhands btw
>>288688728Guts and Lil Guts just linked upNeed it or keep it?
>>288690397Your big proof of people being able to see elves is Puck explaining how most people can't because they're part of the RIGID WORLD?I don't know man...
>>288690326>I'm taking it to mean that Causality and Fate missed himBefore being branded causality tossed him like an absolute tool. He was the most important gear in God Hand's plans to bring Femto
>>288690407Yeah but they don't seem to manifest and my understanding is that Flora herself has only a tertiary understanding of them. It just seems weird that there's so much knowledge in Skull Knight about the inner workings of entities that are so deep in the Astral World that not even powerful magic users can call on them
>>288690340>Void, his advisorheadcanon btw
>>288690414What are they then?
>>288690430Void probably dropped some knowledge on him
>>288690434I am correct, however. It was revealed to me in such a way that I can know for certain.
>>288690315The boundaries got broken because of the Eclipse, not Guts brandingThis is what Skully is referencing
>>288690414Well that's either an Eclipse or a Reincarnation Ceremony and given it's every 1000 years and Skull Knight is 1000 years old I'm inclined to believe those are Godhand manifestations at a Reincarnation Ceremony. So who was reincarnated? Gaiseric?
I just got to lost children arc right now and I love Berserk so far. Does it get better? I keep seeing people saying fantasia sucks.
>Mori decides to clear his name by releasing all of miura's notes> 90 percent revolve around Schierke's pussy grip strength
>>288690425All moricucks confirmed to be sub 80 IQ monkeys. I'm saying this now without any exaggeration>>288683219>those who cling to the rigid worldAs in not open minded and cling to their perception of reality (rigid)He literally says even priests in rural areas can see him, but big city ones are too closed mindedMost of the people can see him, if they are not "nothing ever happens"-tier chudsImagine taking everyhing so literally
>Miura's message was that Guts fights against Causality (destiny), whereas Chapter 384 seems to imply that Guts himself may have been special because of destiny all along.Really makes you think
>>288688686I don't think that's actually Flora, it's one of the elemental lords that Shierke brought up before, but it's also probably who Flora was channeling.
>>288688916Does not elaborate Leaves while mumbling to himself
>>288690454Fantasia is the best arc so far. You're lucky that you get to read it without waiting for the chapters to release every couple of months though.Fantasia > Millennium Falcon > Conviction > Black Swordsman > Golden Age
>>288690454It becomes shit right after fantasia starts.My personal theory is that's when Mitsuhisa Kuji stopped being an assistant for miura.
>>288690465problem?
>>288690467Based. Golden Age had 2 good moments100 man slayer sub arc/bonfire of dreamsEclipse
>>288690467>Black Swordsman above Golden AgeWhat would make you ever believe this?
>>288690461So you're saying some people can't see fairies, huh... well okay then.
>>288690482it's in reverse
>>288690467Fantasia might as well be a different manga from how stark pacing and content differ from everything that came before.
>>288690454A lot of people say that Falcon of the Millennial Empire and Fantasia gets worse and even sucks but I honestly think they're pretty great still.
>>288688916Skull Knight knows some shit that would have been very helpful>Yo Guts maybe get a backup sword about a year from now, you'd hate to be dealing with some shit *hint* after having broken your only sword
>>288690467I need to read as fast as possible to get to current chapters. When’s the next one releasing?
>>288690462More like anti-destiny.
>>288690289Guts has gotta understand that he was built different and because of that he can walk a path different from his precursors. Their failures don't define his limitations.King Gaiseric was just a man who resorted to the berserker armor and then became Skull Knight, and yet could not touch his adversaries to this day. Apostles like Zodd succumbed to their base nature in moments of weakness to gain greater powers and longevity.Guts is beyond King Gaiseric or Zodd the human. He does not need to sacrifice anything, he just has to embrace all of himself as an existence intertwined with the spiritual, ready himself for a decisive moment instead of trying to cheat fate by buying time. If Guts can integrate the parts of himself that is normally suppressed, then Schierke can focus on her strengths instead of Guts' weakness.
>>288690482Black Swordsman is tightly paced and sets up the world well. Golden Age is poorly paced and is only remembered for its highs while the lows and filler are always glossed over.
>>288690449>The boundaries got broken because of the EclipseWhat boundaries? And Eclipse didn't break shit. There were countless of eclipses every 216 years
>>288690289It's forcing Guts to accept who he is as someone Causality forgot. That's all it really is. Throughout the story we've seen Guts either outright reject this part of himself or otherwise downplay it via self doubt.
>>288688718>>288688728>>288688746OMG Guts is a Shinigami, Quincy and Hollow!!! *cue theme song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW6toOrQkkU
>>288690518Between the real world and astral world>there were countless of eclipsesThat one was special because of Griffith. Instead of fucking off to the Astral like the other Godhand to jerk off for eternity, he wanted to shape the real world to his liking.
>>288690516Golden age is literally no filler. Every moment serves a direct purpose in either character development of political development.Black swordsman is the most unfocused arc. What a retarded take.
>>288690505Schedule here>>288690122
>>288690532>Every moment serves a direct purpose in either character development of political development.Tell me about the Bakiraka and Wyald
Why was Casca introduced as a whore who slept naked with Guts to share body heat to revive him? I initially thought she was the whore of the entire band
>>288690488>So you're saying some people can't see fairies, huh... well okay then.Never tried to deny it, retard. It's a fact written in plain text. You said Guts was retconned by Miura to be in the interstice from birth >>288690292 because he could see Clitch >>288690332I proved anyone can see elves, you don'y need to be special for that. As can be seen in the very first Chapter of the manga
>>288690365This. And in Berserk, the physical world is fully within the laws of causality, ie. fully deterministic. The world of ideas is the opposite of this. Where these two worlds shallowly coexist (the interstice), events are almost fully deterministic but not quite.Basically in Berserk libertarian free will is a real thing. The astral world seems to be a manifestation of the human mind rather than a reality unto its own, as all the astral creatures are things humans have imagined in the past (folklore).Ultimately, through Guts Miura wanted to say something profound about the indomitability of human spirit. Him being born special actually completely ruins the whole manga lol.
The physical world and the world of ideas is very similar to how it works with the world and The Outside in The Second Apocalypse series.
Even if Guts was not special or chosen one will he still stand up to the God Hand and fight Griffith?Absolutely
>>288690555>Him being born specialHe wasn't
>>288690531>Between the real world and astral worldThat was Fantasia, not Elcipse, you absolute speedreader>he wanted to shape the real world to his liking.That's what every God Hand ever does. That's their entire purpose
>>288690555The only thing special about him was that he was born in a way that he should've died, yet continued to live despite everything that happens.
>>288690554Anyone can, but only one did
>>288690555Japs can't help but go to the same tropes without Miura. Watch Guts get his own Getsuga Tenshou and maybe a Super Saiyan form.
>>288690571Bakkergods rule this thread too?!
>>288690611>>288690530You're not very funny so can you fuck off?
>>288690467Tower of conviction was the peak of berserk with hints of the fantasia writing quirks seeping in with the drawn-out mozgus fight.
>>288690571All I remember from the first three books is endless humiliation rituals, typically involving characters getting cucked, to the point of absurdity.
>>288690616Truth shines brotha!
>>288690611I thought the Berserker armor was his super saiyan form?
>>288689374oh yeah, I remember now. Thanks, anon
>>288690636>bro what if jesus was a psychopath and read the 48 laws of power, how subversive
>>288690555Him being born "special" relates to him surviving as a stillborn fetus by sheer willpower, the same thing he continued to do through the rest of his life.Not surprised a lolbertarian is too low IQ to realize this.
>>288690630You should read the next four then!
>>288690665I have never hated a series more so no.
>>288690639It's just emo Saint Seiya. Now that Miura is gone the publisher had a mandate to cater to casuals from now on.
>>288690600>Anyone canYes. As it was proven by how many characters could see Puck and others no problem>but only one didYes, not because she resides in a god forsaken dungeon, is extremely small and can easily hide herself even if should could be seen physically by everyone without exceptionsIt's because Guts is one in a billion special boy born in the interstice
Honestly, I was expecting Guts' journey "within himself" to be about reconciling with the Beast of Darkness rather than talking to Flora
>>288690690So why is berserk about guts and not some random farmer?
>>288690690> So cucked by nihilism he doesn't realize guts being the protagonist already means he's special since he was chosen by the author You shrieking and crying how guts isn't special and not protagonist can't ever be special just hints at your own psychological hangups.Maybe see a therapist (or a rapist if you're into that)?
I don't like the implication that Guts is 'destined' to stop Griffith because he is the same as him and plucked from the astral world. Guts' entire pull was that he was a regular man at his absolute physical and mental limits 24/7, who's gone through hell yet still continues to pursue his path of vengeance against the man who ruined his life. If both Guts and Griffith are 'dwellers of the threshold', as in, the Interstice, this ties back to earlier in the manga where that person says that the only guy who can kill Griffith is someone who equally exists outside of his 'story'. This is clearly supposed to set up Guts being the one to finally stop Griffith, but I don't like the idea that he'll do it because he was always destined to and from birth he's been directed towards this path.
>>288688564Great chapter, among the best Miura has written. It makes me believe that this chapter had more Miura influence than the others. By this I mean that because it is so important, it might have been something Miura talked about more, while he probably didn't say much about how they go from important moment to important moment aside from the broad strokes.
>>288690715>Let's do this, Beast of DarknessI can't see it working.
>>288690716>So why is berserk about guts and not some random farmer?Are you retarded? Because he was BORN special and with magic powers. Not because he's a peak human with extremely cruel fate from birth, who trained like a madman all his life. Every protagonist in fiction is born under magical circumstances, otherwise they are not interesting to follow. It's that simple
>>288690738He's more of an anti-chosen one, Griffith is a literal chosen one, while Guts is someone who should have been dead but was born anyways, struggling against his death from the start and existing outside the rules of the world due to it. Fate = causality so you're actually completely wrong, it's just that he's special in a way that lets him kill Griffith.
>>288690777Digits so I'm inclined to believe you, that makes a lot more sense from that perspective if they go along that route. Actually would be exceptional storytelling and follows up on all the foreshadowing on who will actually stop Griffith.
>>288690738>Guts' entire pull was that he was a regular manFuck no it wasn't. A man who wields a sword of impossible dimensions to kill demons and and doesn't flinch when being tortured (chapter 1 btw), he was always depicted as a badass above all badassesAs for being destined to killl Griffith or whatever, there's absolutely nothing of the sort in the chapter
>>288690734I just don't like some hack ruining my favourite manga with terrible writing and shonenspic-tier retcons. Nice armchair psychologist degree though
>>288690769Why did Guts train like a madman? Because the circumstances of his birth led him to a childhood where it was forced on him.
>>288690769>with extremely cruel fate from birthWait, so he was born special after all? What the fuck
>>288690809>Why did Guts train like a madman?Why does anyone?>Because the circumstances of his birth led him to a childhood where it was forced on himSo you are saying the fate was forced on him like literally every other human in the manga? And what does that prove?
>>288690769The point of the chapter is that he shouldn't be alive in the first place, he should have died underneath his mother's corpse, and then he should have died in the countless battles he was in, and should have died during the Eclipse, and should have died in his war against the Apostles a hundred times after that, yet even as an infant, his ability to resist death has made it so that he exists in the Interstice naturally, he is the only one outside of Griffith's story, and thus he is the only one who can kill him. The circumstances of his birth were always 'special', in the sense that he is a walking anomaly, someone who shouldn't have existed at all.
So what is the implication exactly? Guts couldn't do shit to Griffith before, so what will change now? He just becomes aware that he's a one in a billion guy and that is enough to break the barrier between him and Griffith?
>>288690830>specialEveryone is, sis>special = one in a billion magic boy residing in both worlds becasue of the birth circumstances (also retcon) Oh, you are THAT kind of a special boy
>>288690843That if he kills Griffith, it's because fate chose him to do so? That he was born specially for this purpose?
>>288690846>The point of the chapter is that he shouldn't be alive in the first placeShouldn't according to who? He plays the most crucial role in God Hand's plan up to the Eclipse. Didn't read the rest of your drivel. You proved yourself a retard from the first sentence
>>288690899>Shouldn't according to whoUh sheer chance? Are you retarded? What are the odds of surviving being a baby on the ground underneath your dead mother and JUST SO HAPPENS that a band of mercenaries takes you in, JUST SO HAPPENS you survive your first few battles, JUST SO HAPPENS you manage to escape them, JUST SO HAPPENS you manage to join t he Band of the Hawk, survive, survive Zodd, Wyald etc, survive the Eclipse and all the fuckery after that, what are the odds?
>>288690769>extremely cruel fate from birthSo you're saying his fate is special?
>>288690919What's your BMI?
>>288690869The implication is that guts never had any kind of meaningful introspective moments up until now to put himself in relation with what happened around him
>>288690879>That if he kills Griffith, it's because fate chose him to do so?I thought the whole point of being special is defying fate, not submitting to it. You moricucks can't even make up your mind. You are just throwing random excuses
But Griffith said to Guts in a final move :“What is a High Tier Human compared to a Low Tier God?”
>>288690929>>288690877
>>288690919Anon, narratively it is an evil Chosen One vs someone who should have died but lived against all odds because he's a chad, and that due to that he's outside fate and can kill him, you can argue it is convenient that a person like Guts existed near Griffith but it's a story, it is narrative convenience.
>>288690948I'm just trying to follow the logic of what you wrote, you wrote FATE
>>288690919Read the rest of my post, retard. Everything was predetermined
Woah dude you’re telling me the guy who can carry a 500 fucking pound iron sword is special?
>>288690963Low Tier God got humiliated by a tiny white guy who plays for fun
>>288690987I thought he was John Human, paragon of mundanity.
I think we've all forgotten the most important detail: Guts' ears. His ears are pointy. Therefore he is not fully human.This cannot be disproven.
>>288691034He takes after his old man.
>>288689049The first thread was mostly happy with the chapter too
>>288690978Fate is not exclusive to the special boys in the manga. It's a universal thing to every human. The point half of moricucks are trying to make is that Guts has been defying fate from the very birth, when it's clearly not the case. And the other half believes he's destined (by whom?) to slay gods. And all of them are throwing their pathetic copes at me
>>288691049I was thinking the same thing
solid chapter, now I'm ready for guts too start kicking ass again
>>288691034Gambino and Shisu were his real parents all along? Did we get faked out?
>just hit harder Guts Ohhhhh
>>288689359And we've only gotten 20 chapters. That's 4 chapters a year. Is Berserk going to be a generational manga where a new writer takes over when the previous one passes while Studio Gaga becomes a studio for artists to draw Berserk?
>“In this world... Is the destiny of mankind controlled by some... transcendental entity, or law? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true; that man has no control —even over his own will...”
>>288691109>harder GutsSlan somewhere
>>288691034He is not the only one with pointy ear
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>>288688564I really think Mori is full of shit, and I can't ever see Guts giving up, given that it goes against everything that defines his character.Even worse, there's no way in hell he'd actually become suicidal, given that death wouldn't be a release for him. Because of his brand, he'd either get sucked into the vortex, which he's seen with his own eyes, or his soul would be tortured by other means.You can also feel Mori's dour, depressing writing throughout nu-Berserk, and it doesn't fit the manga's atmosphere.
>>288691143Guts has been passively suicidal much of the manga and survives incidentally through many battles.
>we still don’t know who the Behelit is for K
>>288691160It's Puck's behelit.
>Actually gatsu your mum is full of chakra and your dad is a prodigy Berserk sucks now
>>288691177>guts become John Elden Ring>just hit harder
>>288689514Griffith was chosen by fate, Guts is an accident, both exist between existential planes.
Why all the hyperbole in this thread? You can criticize a direction of something without making shit up.
>every single manga and anime ends in nepotism What did the Japanese mean by this?
>>288691196The chapter literally said Guts is the heir of the Demon Realm and was born with all 99 forms of Demon Jutsu unlocked, how am I supposed to take this seriously?
>>288691157He's not suicidal, he's reckless, usually out of necessity, and he's always found a way to push on, regardless of the horrific, unsurmountable odds he's up against.
>>288691207>nepotismYou don't know what that word means, do you?
Remember when Guts got so angry he cut a horse in one swing? Good times
>>288691207Who is Guts supposed to be getting preferential treatment from in his family/friends?
>>288691195>Griffith was chosen by fate, Guts is an accidentGriffith would never become Femto without Guts. You are a certified retard, sir
>>288691231Yes I do and the fact you replied means I already won
>>288689796>8/20I haven't reread Berserk in years so I'd say that was pretty good
>>288689560>Puts into perspective how much time miura wasted on fantasiaThe sea god arc was basically miura spelling out loud that what mattered to him was the art. Then he moved to digital and you could feel things just didn't click right to him anymore but he had to keep going in this direction.
>>288691196it's just shitposting
>>288691270Imagine the smell of trollgut Slan. Would you be able to keep your dick hard?
>>288691171
>>288688943I mean he could just be a liar. That would work, he's just telling Griffith bull shit.
I'd rather experience the world of berserk than the plot. Its like the ff remake. I prefer exploring the world and seeing the characters interact over whatever this is
>>288691305>I, the absolute god of everything, trolled the current most powerful being on the human planet>just for funsies
>>288691130>trying to get guts hardgriffith...
>>288691143>I can't ever see Guts giving up, given that it goes against everything that defines his character.Guts is really not some paragon of staunchness that will never budge.
Holy fuckk this is so fucking bad. Why the fuck is he a >le chosen one just like Griffith!now all of a sudden? All stakes have completely vanished.
>>288691340Retard
>>288691160It's for Serpico, obviously. Always has been.
>>288691345What? Are you saying that's not what's happening in this chapter?
Guts was the son of Zodd all along? What the fuck was Mori thinking when he pulled this?
>>288691340>now all of a sudden?Because the author is dead, duh. It's a terrible fanfiction by retards and they don't know any better
>>288689320The art is genuinely bad. It was good for the first like 3 chapters and then went to shit. Everything is eay too long and there's small basic shit like perspective or shading that's not right. I was lenient early on, I defended the shit out of them. But now it just looks awful and over rendered.
>>288691375Its got an uncanny feeling. Miura was an artist. The new ones are manga artists
>>288691219That's why I specified passively suicidal, which is placing oneself in harmful situations without regard to the odds of living or dying. >out of necessity Seeking out apostles was the opposite of necessary since he was already being hounded by supernatural creatures day and night. Guts has historically wanted all the smoke, which is a death wish.
>>288691279i'm afraid not, much as i find her hot. the smell would probably make most men pass out. guts is pretty used to it though
>Hey Guts, your circumstances of birth should've left you for dead, but you lived and you continued to live, leaving you at a point where causality and fate no longer means anything for you. You forge your own path living between life and death. No one put you on this road, it just is.>People are trying to make out that this is the same as being a chosen one
>>288691054>The point half of moricucks are trying to make is that Guts has been defying fate from the very birth, when it's clearly not the case. And the other half believes he's destined (by whom?) to slay gods.And some, if not most, of them believe in the both versions simultaneously. Defying fate and being destined. They are just that retarded
>>288691398there are maybe a handful on people in the industry who could ever even attempt to follow miura's footsteps
Also, they're literally contradicting themselves wtf>in the darkness you can only be with yourself!>except Flora! She'll talk to you in the darkness and tell you the secret magic words to unlock your chosen one power!Literal garbage writing.
They're doing a good job. Looking forward to the next two chaps.
Some years ago I was out with my special girlfriend, Emily. We were going to go see a movie or something, but we were accosted by a man in a Pickle Suit. Now you need to understand that I hate pickles. Hate them. It's a physical, instinctual revulsion, borderdin on nausea. Pickles make me sick to see, much less to touch or, God forbid, taste. But this man came up to us, dressed in one of those mascot style costumes, and it was a costume of a giant pickle.He started talking to Emily in a very friendly, all too familiar way, and she responded warmly to his approach. I injected, asking him what he was advertising for. He said that he wasn't advertising. He just happened to be dressed like a pickle. Long story short, his appearance and behavior made me irritable, and my behavior in turn irritated Emily. She dumped me and started dating the man in the pickle suit.Later I learned the name of that man was Kouji Mori.
They're doing a terrible job. Looking forward to more retcons the next two chaps.
>>288691438>the secret magic words to unlock your chosen one power!This... didn't happen?
>>288691359Truly wholesome father-son relationship. >Zodd spares Guts' boyfriend >Rescues Guts from Wyald>teams up with him against Ganishka>Zodd chaperones the beach meeting between Moon Child and his parents, Guts notices Zodd hiding behind the hill but doesn't freak out because they're chill now
>>288691469Peculiar cuckolding fantasy, but you do you I suppose
>>288691438>Daiba is wrong about something>therefore the writing is badHas it occurred to you that Daiba's experience of this stupa is from before the fantasia merger? He would have no reason to assume Flora would show up. I don't think he knows Flora even existed, much less that she had any relationship to Guts or would be powerful enough to show up in spirit somewhere.You're conflating your own knowledge of the series with that of the characters. You lack theory of mind. My diagnosis: the 'tisms.
>>288691438Why is Flora living in the Kushan sensory deprivation tank like some ghost in a haunted house, anyway?
>>288691487Grandpa Zodd
>>288691490Hmmmm. Yeah.
>>288691469Kek
>>288691375It's all too sharp, it's missing thick lines, it is more ink pens and no more confident ink brushes. At times foreground is difficult to separate from the background because there isn't enough variety of line/surface in the technique, everything is a line as per more regular eastern style, just way more detailed.Guts looks fine, Griffith almost looks better like this, more ethereal. But Casca in particular looks like a different character, especially in this chapter.I would say the assault on the Kushan palace looked really good, and for a little bit I forgot I wasn't reading Miura. This chapter looks kind of bad though, outside of the paneling.
>>288691501I don't think she is. I think she specifically came there for Guts. Why? To teach him how to use the Force.
>>288691501She's not, Guts is in a deeper layer of the astral world in the clam where Flora can reach out to him
Guts isn't the chosen oneThis chapter changes nothing
>>288691562This but unironically
>>288691497Has it occurred to you that the whole stupa setup is retarded? The Kushan empire shouldn't even exist anymore, the place where Rickert & friends were fleeing to was the bakiraka mountain stronghold.
Zodd and Skull Knight are still the GOATs
>>288691497You're just excusing literally contradictory bad writing by implying that Daiba is a literal moron who has no idea what he's doing. He clearly said that Guts would have to undergo some serious contemplation in the tank. What exactly was he expecting out of this?
>>288691612I assume he was expecting Guts to integrate his Jungina shadow and emerge a whole man. That may still happen, but for now whatever was intended to happen has been interrupted by a magical entity Daiba doesn't know or have any experience of.There is no contradiction in the writing, only in Daiba's expectations. He has been wrong before. Trying to play him up as somehow infallible is a very strange tactic on your part.
>>288690715It would go against all the previously established ideas of healing. Miura's been pretty fucking clear that senseless violence and rage aren't a solution to fear and trauma.
>>288688930It's kinda funny desu>the world is what it is so we ended creating evil god to make sure it can make it destined to happen
>>288691562Yes, because it's a fanfic
>>288691646The tone in which Daiba says that he will be alone with himself is not meant to frivolous. It's even literally being recapped on the first page >>288688581. Why go to the trouble of highlighting that and then contradicting it anyway? Are they trying to portray Daiba as a clueless buffoon?
>>288691700>life sucks>get depressed>depression causes life to suck even moreThe only solution to Berserk is for humanity to turn the Idea of Evil into the Idea of Good by changing their entire belief system to reflect a life-affirming optimism.
>>288691647>It would go against all the previously establishedSo is this chapter
>>288691726>this is what Daiba thinks will happen (based on all previous instances)>here's something unexpected caused by an outside force that has never interfered with the use of the stupa before and that Daiba has never encountered beforeCLUELESS BUFFOON, why did you not know Flora would be waiting for Guts?
I didn't want to do this Griffith, but you have forced my hand...I'll show you... my new power, GET READY GRIFFISUAUTONOMOUS INSTINCTUAL ASTRAL GIANT!!!!!!!!!!
>>288691562"Since you were born, you're someone who resides in the ethereal world" >>288688754"You and him are the same" >>288688763
>>288691647>It would go against all the previously established ideas of healing.Really? Caska's pieces were put together in the Corridor of Dreams. Why wouldn't Guts be put together with his own severed half?
>>288691731Realistic i can at most see something like "idea of neutrality" happening where it's meant for things simply takes it course normally, without higher influences and the idea of neutrality actively try to undo anything that could potentially manipulate destinies or whatever. As skull knight would say FLOW OF CAUSALITY
>>288691767Yes, and?
>>288689609dont you worry your little head
>>288689609yes he comes from the astral realm possess someone and write the chapters
>>288691767Didn't Griffith have to make himself into that with the moon child though?
>>288691783So he's the chosen one. Chosen since his birth to be the same as Griffith.
>>288691740It really isn't anon.
>>288691807Chosen by whomst?
>>288691807Chosen by who?
>>288691427Many people (idiots) do not understand nuance, everything must fall into selected tropes because that's all they can understand.
>>288691779Like Goldmask's Age of Order
>>288691501Flora is obviously not tied to the physical plane.
>>288691818>>288691828Causality. Being born from a dying woman guarantees that now, apparently.
>>288691811It really is. Sorry >>288690263
>>288688703any good black metal albums nowadays?
>>288691844Bro does NOT know what the fuck he's talking about.
>>288689662>he needs a headcanon explanation to make sense of this fanfiction drivelThe absolute state
>>288691844So basically the chapter doesn't anything like that but you've decided to be mad anyway
>>288691552That would make no sense since she could have visited him sooner.>>288691558This is a slightly more believable excuse but it's still very dumb-sounding.
>>288688689>>288688696>all these people important to guts development>no donovanmori is weak
>>288691768Because Gut's psyche isn't shattered the same ways Casca's. Gut's, Casca, and Griffith all have different responses to trauma (rage, disassociation, and cruelty and control). I'm too tired to go into it deeper but excorising that rage is more in line with what limited healing Guts has had so far than accepting and carrying it.
>>288691864It's not wrong, is it?
>>288691888>That would make no sense since she could have visited him sooner.Could she? Could she really? Or was him being in the clam something that enabled it?
>>288691902The damage Donovan caused was already healed when Guts and Caska fugged
>>288691905>Because Gut's psyche isn't shattered The Beast of Darkness talks to him and sometimes possesses him. How is his psyche NOT shattered?
>>288691853Even if it were a retcon (its not, reread 37) the retcon happened much early (with Chitch)
>>288689280Getting a lot of Boss Baby vibes from this, huh?
Causality chose Guts, that's why he is not fully bound to Causality and is able to fight against it, because it chose him,
>>288691911So the clam is just a telephone with Flora's number. A telephone booth is a weird place to go into if you want to be alone.
>>288691956I AM SILLY AGAIN TODAY
Another chosen one in my manga, oh wow well done. Zzzzz
>>288691932Manifestation of rage vs complete dissociation. You need to take the autism hate off and look at the themes and subtext.>>288691956The clam is just your mum's vag.
>>288691967They should send Schierke there next.
>>288691994Sadly, she's in Falconia right now (remember that plot point?)
>>288691906Of course it's wrong because you're throwing around words you don't understand.
I love Naruto
For the retards that don't understand this chapter, Guts was a misscarriage like the cripple fetus. But his mom like Casca got impregnated with some magic seed.Moon Kid Griffith is the same as Guts.The father of Guts is a spiritual being.
>>288691905For most of his life, Griffith’s response to trauma was largely dissociation too, along with suppression. It’s why Casca feels so sad when she sees how he puts on the mask of normalcy to reassure her despite being in the middle of a mental breakdown mere seconds before. He never allowed himself to really feel the trauma until it became completely unmanageable.
>>288692017How is it wrong? You're free to explain
>>288689844So we calling everything that is special or extraordinary "chosen one" now?
>>288691160Charlotte
>>288688703Why does he look like the demon child here
>>288692033I don't agree
>>288692042Not that anon, but inherited ability isnt nepotism. Nepotism is using your parents connections, and success to get preferential treatment
>>288692079Stupid nigger Guts is unaffected by causality and is the only one in the entire series to be so.>GriffithNope, still influenced by God's will.Guts is above that and is unbound making him the only guy that can technically kill GOD.
>>288692120Plot twist: Moonboy wasn't born fucked up because of the Eclipse, he just took after his father
>>288692146So he's the anti-Chosen One?
>>288689722You got BTFO in that thread, I just lurked lol. "The white swordsman"? Pretty embarassing
>people be like muh NarutoNigger, this shit is copy pasted off of Devilman.
>>288689662Moriniggers are redditors confirmed.
This was pretty bad honestly.
>>288692146Griffith escaped causality the moment he rebirth himself into the Moonkid. That's why they say Guts and Griffith are the same.
>>288692171>So he's the anti-Chosen One?No, he is literally THE ONE. That's beyond even the chosen one because he is not tied by fate or destiny. He is above any confinements. Basically in the world of Berserk, Guts is outerversal.
>>288692248He's so fucking ME lads. WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK. GUTS IS SO ME. He's so not special he's THE MOST SPECIAL. I am the KEKED SWORDSMAN.
>>288692042Causality is deterministic influence from the collective unconscious in the Abyss. Everyone has their place within causality as actors in a play. The chosen ones in the Berserk universe are those who are a nexus of this influence, mainly those who are destined to become Godhand members. That fate is preordained and everyone else is swept along. Guts is not one of those pieces or a central figure, he has no part to play and yet he has to navigate a world where everyone else's roles bump up against him. To Skull Knight this makes Guts an ally to groom. To the Godhand Guts is amusing and a particularly juicy target to become an apostle because of his agency within the world. The universe is indifferent to Guts, and that means there is possibility to leave a mark on the world that is not in the grand plan. But that still means he has to contend with the sweeping fate of all other people. The longer he lives the more of a domino effect he can achieve but that also could mean that greater forces could simply tweak things to account for his disturbances. There is no certainty that struggling will amount to anything.
Can't believe this fanfic still gets traction here.>>288690543Wyald is not filler, that is a philistine opinion. The blonde girl is one of the best girls in the series despite her short appearance. Wyald's defeat at the hands of Guts puts the protagonist at the weight class necessary to perform the feats against Apostles he pulls off in the Eclipse.Bakiraka is a bit harder to defend, though you can argue that Miura had made Judeau, Pippin and Corkus redundant and the Bakiraka fight gives the first two something to work with.
>>288692268guts is the otaku king. an existence that should've never been, so he's actually above it all
It was a nice thread, but then the retards showed up. See you in two weeks!
Goku remains the only non chosen protag in all of anime.
>She will be turned into a boring girlboss in the futureI don't know if I can handle it
>>288691933>reread 37Ther's nothing there suggesting Guts was born in the Interstice>the retcon happened much early (with Chitch)No it didn't >>288690397
>>288692320Uhh, don't tell this guy about THE LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN.
These last few chapters have been the first alright ones since Miura died. Out of everything that had happened since then, these were the least egregious. I actually liked this chapter
>how to make Guts defeat griffith>raise an armyno>power upno>retcon him being of the astral dimension since beginningBING BING WAHOOOO YOU READY FOR THE DISNEY CHANNEL
My interpretation is that the Idea of Evil controls causality and all physical beings are bound by causality. Everything it decides will happen happens 99.9% of the time. Guts survived his birth by sheer will, this was the 0.1% case. By doing so he stepped out of the Idea of Evil's casual plan and in doing so became a partially astral being - not defined by just causality
>>288692350the fact that he was part of an alien warrior race already revoked his claim to being a blue collar hero
>>288692350Oh yeah, Broly who is not Goku.Kek
>>288692361>Guts survived his birth by sheer will, this was the 0.1% case. By doing so he stepped out of the Idea of Evil's casual planHe was the greatest pawn of it. Without him Griffith wouldn't become Femto
>>288688763Can't wait for Guts to meet the 7 Legendary Interstice Beings that will rival Griffith's power. But in the end all of them must combine all their strength to beat the Ancient Moon God Demon who was placed by Interdimensional Aliens made of energy to watch over Earth because humans have limitless potential and it must be stopped!!!
>>288692343as opposed to being a potato for 20 years?
>>288692378You're kind of making me want to rewatch Gurren Lagann
>>288692365He is of lower rank.How does that invalidate his blue collar status?He worked hard for his shit unlike Frieza who is genetically superior can do 5 push ups to close the gap. Or Gohan who can tap into his infinite potential nonsense.
>>288692386The kid who was impervious to gunfire since his first appearance in his first chapter was not "blue collar"
>>288688754lets fuckin go best chapter is referenced
>>288692380Potato is sovl yeah
>>288692386he is still far, far superior in talent to everyone prior to other aliens showing up. all the people in dragonball are basically jokes afterwards.the fact that goku initially struggled with them despite being a legendary alien warrior is kind of ridiculous on hindsight.
>>288692377Without Guts, Griffith would still have become Femto, he would not be able to fight against super strong apostles without asking for a sacrifice.But without Guts Griffith would never have become the Moonkid.
>>288692377Griffith's dream might have crumbled without Guts anyway. Even if he became King of Midland he would have gotten curb stomped by Ganishka and forced to sacrifice. Or Count Julius would have fucked Griffith over during the Golden Age without Guts to act as Griffith's assassin
We're in Tite Kubo territory now, boys.
>>288692420>Without Guts, Griffith would still have become FemtoNo he woudn't. Guts was the single most important thing in his life who triggered everything he did which brought him to the point of sacrificing comrades. Try reading the manga
>>288692455I guess there's a reason why the Idea of Evil looks like... THE HEART
>>288692476>thingperson*
This chapter was honestly dog shit.We went from Griffith being the chosen one where destiny and fate revolves around him pushing Guts to die over and over, while he holds on by sheer will to him being way beyond causality from the moment he was born.Dog shit absolute dogshit. They literally turned him into the anti chosen one which is just another chosen one.
>>288690530Based>>288690624Cringe
>>288692511He was always anti chosen one
As stupid as all of this is, I'm not sure what this even really addresses for the story going forward.
>>288692476How would Griffith defeat the Sultan with normal people? He would be cornered and forced to sacrifice his army any fucking way.
>>288692511The average Jap like Mori is bound by anime tropes. They just can't imagine something outside the box.
>>288692520Fuck off nigger
>>288692539you are the one that puts everything into trope boxes anon
>>288692539As opposed to Miura, who never used anime tropes like giving Mozgus funny named attacks?
>>288692343More like a damsel in the distress lolShe started out as a second fiddle to Guts and ended as a (kidnapped) second fiddle to GutsShe sucks, but has a pretty nice body and I'm happy to say I fapped to her (getting fucked by other men who isn't Guts btw)>>288692320Guts isn't a chosen one
It does kinda ruin his character a bit unfortunately. The reason people find remarkable is because he’s just a guy doing remarkable things like defying fate. Him being “oh astral born” is dumb. I think he should get a power up instead to challenge Griffith
>>288692532>Sultan What Sultan? We are talking about the Golden Age>He would be cornered and forced to sacrifice his army any fucking wayThere's no "any fucking way". There was only one way shaped by God Hand/IoE
>>288692554So you were rotting for femto or what? There was never a chance for guts beating griffith at all, or you were hopign that guts was magically someone that could miraculous "be beyond fate" by himself,thus making him another chosen one?
>>288692576> The reason people find remarkable is because he’s just a guy doing remarkable thingsWhen has anyone ever said or felt this? Guts was always superhuman doing things no normal person could, the number #1 non-rape related criticism I've seen people give of Berserk based on trying to read the first volumes is that it's just a power fantasy
>>288692576It's the only way for him to be able to harm Griffith.>NOOOO THAT'S WHY MIURA GAVE US THE MOON KID NOOOOI dunno man, maybe this chapters are not based on Miura's notes and the only notes he left was about how to speedrun Idol Manager.
I prefered the idea of Guts being a simple human in a supernatural world fighting everything only by willpower. Now he probably is black Jesus.Fucking hacks.
>>288692578Ganishka you motherfucker how would Griffith fight off the Kushan's with his human army? He would have to rely on the Eclispe anyways.Too many apostles could have dogwalked him.
>>288692629That's the idea right. He is Jesus but Japanese.Jesus born of a virgin mother.Where as Guts is born of a dead mother.Both are simultaneously human and of divine attribute.
>>288692629Guts isn’t a chosen one, it just happens that the circumstances of his birth have attuned him to the astral plane since he was a child
>>288692629he wasn't a simply human he stopped being one the moment he got on eclipse survived and was branded
>>288690214Yeah and I bet Rainman was a fucking genius in your eyes. Being extremely good at one thing isn't impressive or desirable if it comes at the cost of every other skill; which in this case it certainly does. You're no longer a fan. You're a freak.
>>288692676>it just happensit just happens>it just happensit just happens>it just happensyabba dabba doo
>>288692686He got saved by Skull Knight. That was the only way
>>288692690He's right about this being stupid and pointless, though.
The best line about Guts was one where Skull Knight said he was like fishing jumping out of water causing waves hence cause and effectNow it’s Naruto. Also I would have Zodd be his dad
>>288692634>Ganishka You think God Hand would have waited for him to invade? Are you retarded? They had an exact time (Eclipse) where they had to create Femto. And they preplaned everything including Guts for it to happen in this exact time>He would haveYou don't know shit, retard
>>288692676Is Griffith chosen?YesDid this chapter just confirm that Guts and Griffith are the same?YesSo he is fucking chosen, the ideal of evil chose Griffith so another idea must have chosen Guts to counteract it.
>>288692629>only by willpowerAnd a sword nobody else can lift. And a magical dwarf armor.
>>288692719That just makes him more than simply a human
>>288692738We are discussing a hypothetical scenario where Guts never existed. There are too many obstacles for Griffith to succeed without relying on using the Beherit. Are you fucking daft or are you just fucking retarded on purpose?
>>288692690Will you stop samefagging and shilling this putrid turd of a continuation? No one cares about your autistic reddit posts or personal vendetta against any known fans who dislike this godawful gravedigger shit. The more you seethe, the more obvious you are.
Griffith : kill you? What would I do without? You complete meGuts : you’re a sick freak who needs to fucking die
>>288692797>any known fansThis is an anonymous image board, there are no "known" fans here.
>>288692795>We are discussing a hypothetical scenarioThere's no hypothetical scenario, retard. Fate in the series is predetermined and every last detail is preplanned>There are too many obstacles for Griffith to succeedAnd God Hand could have benn behind of any of them, but they've chosen the one we actually see in the manga>without relying on using the BeheritGiving Griffith beherit was their plan same as everything else
>>288688763>>288688754we really didn't need that blatantly spelled out
>>288692795What would griffith even sacrifice if he is getting cockblocked at every point? He would never develop something special for himself like he did with Guts
>>288692892>There's no hypothetical scenario, retard.But how would you feel if you hadn't had breakfast this morning?
>>288692749Stop being retarded. It's dubious that the Idea of Evil is even a legitimate part of the story since Miura cut the chapter. The chapter clearly spells out the long-standing theory that Guts is someone who has simply always existed in the Interstice because he was born from a corpse and that Guts feels most familiar with that chaos because he was born in it. Griffith was the same because he was a predetermined Godhand. That doesn't involve any greater mechanisms than what's already present in the story.It does explain why Guts himself has always been almost mythological compared to everyone else, from surviving the impossible to wielding the Dragonslayer to killing folk gods. He's never fully been bound by the mortal realm. He's still human, born a human and won't ever accept reincarnation, but he's human in the same sense that the dragon that appeared in Fantasia is just a lizard. It squares with Skull Knight's belief about him being a survivor and maybe even a fish that breaks the surface tension.
>>288692991>But how would you feel if you hadn't had breakfast this morning?How would you feel if you weren't a total retard discussing headcanon scenarios of a fictional story as if they were real life events and treating it like an argument?
>>288693066God his art is so good
>>288693066>long-standing theory that Guts is someone who has simply always existed in the IntersticeThis theory has never existed before this chapter and it's an undeniable retcon >>288690263. Lay off the copium
>Guts: So faggot, you want to fight Black Swordsman?>Griffith: Fight you? No I wanna fuck you
>>288692889The only "known" people on 4chan would be schizos like 'god' and other similar Anons.Funnily enough, it feels like a lot of posts in here are just made by one schizo that hates this chapter in particular. Obviously not everyone who hates new Berserk is one person, but it does feel like one person is really mad
>>288693088Your inability to entertain hypotheticals is very telling when it comes to evaluating your mental capacity. The speed with which to result to insults to avoid the issue is further proof of how meaningless any further dialogue with you would be.Bye.
>>288693066He's a protagonist of a fictional manga story. Stop applying his feats as if they happened in real life. Inside the manga logic everything he did so far lies withing the human capabilty. He's just very strong, maybe the strongest one. But that's it
>>288693192Yeah, his posting style is becoming very familiar.
So is Rickerts hand from the astral realm? Kek
>>288693246Rickert can see fairies so he must've been born from a dead mother also
>>288693066>It does explain why Guts himself has always been almost mythological compared to everyone else, from surviving the impossible to wielding the Dragonslayer to killing folk gods.Not really. Not any more than what we already had.
just wait till July faggots
Guts : you’re garbage that gets people killed and controls reality for fun Griffith: DONT TALK LIKE YOU’RE ONE OF THEM
>>288693217>hypotheticalsThere are no hypotheticals in the already fullfilled prophecies inside the fictional story. It happened. Could have happened the other way, but it did how the author/Gods inside the story intended. What's there to discuss? The point is they've calculated every last detail to bring Griffith to desperation in the exact moment and place they needed it. And Guts is the most important part. You can't refute it.>telling when it comes to evaluating your mental capacitWhat's more telling is your absent reading comprehension and the tendency to create retarded headcanons and treat them like real life hypothetical scenarious
>>288689374it's not only me that forget all of berserk and now i'm discussing from imagination.
>>288693345"I still don't understand what a hypothetical is": the post
>>288693382I accept you concession
>>288692927What, are you retarded? Griffith would likely have been successful in his quest for power, but in a different way. If he did, he would have likely succeeding in helping defeat the Tudor Empire and ending the war, and thus marrying the princess, and he might have sacrificed his knighted Band of the Hawk, the princes, or most likely, the entire kingdom. I mean, he already had the Behelit by the time he met Guts, meaning he was destined to become a God Hand one way or another. The king also wouldn't have gone insane, given that Griffith wouldn't have been pushed into fucking the princess before he was allowed to marry her.Even in that scenario, where Guts doesn't exist and Griffith somehow manages to become the king or crown prince of Midland, he would still have to fight Ganishka, and it's unlikely that he would have had the means to defeat him as a human being, no matter how skilled he is. Ganishka might have defeated him and tortured him (given that Griffith would have been a legend even then), and at that point he might have made the sacrifice.My theory was always that Guts is the antithesis to causality, because he wasn't meant to survive his birth. Whether this was the result of some "good" force meddling and trying to defy the Idea of Evil's causality (like what the Skull Knight is doing), or if it was simply an accident, I don't know, but I believe that's why he's been able to fight against causality (or fate). He wasn't meant to be alive, so he's a wild card that wasn't predicted by the Idea of Evil, nor the God Hand. In fact, the God Hand are completely unaware of him and state outright that Guts' action during the Eclipse weren't predicted. That said, I don't believe Guts was anything more than a man (with an absolute iron will), nor that he was part astral, and that's what makes him such a good character.
>>288693387There's no need to behave like a retard if you're not one, but if you are, you shouldn't be on this website in the first place.
>>288693444If you out of arguments, you can just stop replying. Resorting to ad hominem only proves your opponent right
>>288693246Not even Femto could see that coming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfD7nScwPb8
>>288693518I agree, which is why it's odd that you're the one who spent several posts calling me a retard while avoiding answering simple hypotheticals. Glad we're finally on the same page though, and that your behavior was in fact only proving me correct all along.Thank you, have a nice weekend.
>>288693135Being branded made it much worse but Guts had paranormal experiences long before the Eclipse. He met fairies and survived apostles. This theory has been around for a long time and got big after the Citch chapters, you're not the fucking watchful eye on every single theory that's been poking around Berserk fandom for 30 years faggot. >>288693229That's exactly what I said in a different order of words. Guts isn't more than a human but being living closer to the threshold allowed him to be that strongest.>>288693262The interstice is where reason exists to be broken down. The pure astral realm we've seen the Godhands dwell in is one of unreason and chaos and when it melds with the mortal world it produces mortal fantasy. Dragons, trolls, unicorns, and heroes. A person one foot in the Interstice would be able to do more than someone disconnected entirely from the astral world.
>>288693558Exactly, and Rickert was only alive because characters who were working against causality saved his life. Without the Skull Knight, Rickert would have died, and so would Guts and Casca, given that they only survived because of the medicine he got from Puck's band of traveling gypsies.
How come the manga has such great art but some covers look dogshit?
>>288693838They're just keeping up Miura's traditions, a lot of his colored artwork looked wonky
>>288693838Miura was always much better at black and white than colored artwork.
>>288693566>avoiding answering simple hypotheticalsYou hypotheticals are all retarded headcanon and there's no point in discussing them as I already proved several times. What matters is the author's intention and the things he has established>Thank you, have a nice weekend.You too
>>288693575>Guts had paranormal experiences long before the EclipseThe whole world of Berserk is paranormal and everyone sooner or later got those experiences >He met fairiesAnyone could>and survived apostlesSo did other human characters. And he's stronger than them>This theory has been around for a long time and got big after the Citch chaptersThere were no theories that Guts lived in the interstice since birth>Guts isn't more than a humanThen you are in odds with the strory of the continuation >>288688763>living closer to the threshold allowed him to be that strongesThis was never confirmed or hinted at in the actual manga
>>288693871I'd argue that color covers are the one place that Koji comes close to beating Miura at. A lot better blending, depth, and contrast. It's still on top of not-quite-right linework but we'll get what we get on that front. Miura always did very dark colors that fit well with the vibe but a lot of that artwork just comes off as muddy.
>>288694058Mori isn't drawing anything, it's studio Gaga.
