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what the fuck makes this show so irrelevant in the west these days? i really genuinely enjoyed it as both a historical artifact and as a show, and it was undeniably the face of weeb culture for a short time.

so why not anymore? did it just age really poorly? was s2 that bad? does it not properly appeal to the conceited modern dumbass who prides himself as a "man of culture" because he watches "more real and dark" cartoons made for japanese children?

fuckin explain it to me, because idk why this show isn't lauded as one of the historical greats and is mostly a footnote of embarrassing weeaboo culture now
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Because it's actually garbage and is only talked about fondly by retards that watched it when it aired and bought into its limited cultural impact. And, because they're getting older and are afraid of change, they want this one series they watched when they were younger that defined a certain portion of their youth to continue to be big because otherwise they'd have to watch something else instead of endlessly circlejerking about Haruhi until they die.
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>>288716569
I can't speak for everyone but even though I was around + watching anime when Haruhi was new and everywhere, I just genuinely never gave a single fuck about it then and had no interest in checking it out. I almost want to say it was the overexposure to Haruhi everywhere in anime spaces that increased my lack of interest and just kind of put me off wanting to check it out.

Even now I haven't watched it. Maybe someday I might since for all I know it really is that good, it's not like I've sworn to never touch it or anything, but I think for me the overexposure to it when it was at its biggest just made me lose interest in it without even watching.
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>>288716645
except i watched it nearly 20 years after it originally aired and thought it was good, well done even. it can't all be nostalgia cope, though that may be a reason contributing to its stagnation, even though there's way worse shows that are better examples of that.
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>>288716569
Aya Whorano and Endless Eight kinda killed the anime
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>>288716569
because new anime keeps coming out every year
why don't you make this thread complaining about 90s anime being irrelevant? or 80s? or 70s? or 60s?
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>>288716569
Haruhi is anime Seinfeld. It single-handedly invented modern anime the same way Seinfeld invented sitcom.
Because its influence is so all-encompassing, nu-weebs can't even notice it, they don't realize that tropes and conventions they consider "anime" were, in fact, invented by Haruhi, and copied from Haruhi by every show they've ever watched.
So if you watch it now for the first time, it just looks generic.
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>>288716852
>90s anime being irrelevant
arguably has more of a presence in the modern space now than ever, eva and dbz and sailor moon are lauded as classics even by the mouthbreather trog twitter loser, even if they've never seen it or even understand what it's really about
>or 80s? or 70s? or 60s?
except for the 60s there's at least one major titan from each decade that still probably exists in the minds of the casual fan - you can argue about what that is i guess, i'd say any of your ranmas/urusei yatsuras/kimagure orange roads from the 80s (if for no other reason then the impact they had on modern romcom/comedy/slice of life bullshit) and obviously gundam from the 70s
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>>288716954
>ranmas/urusei yatsuras/kimagure orange roads from the 80s
The casual fan has never watched any of these unless you count the modern remakes of Ranma and UY and they hold contempt for any mecha series that isn't Eva.
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>the west
Who the fuck cares?
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why can't we have a normal haruhi thread
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>>288717189
>you count the modern remakes of Ranma and UY
precisely what i'm counting
>hold contempt for any mecha series that isn't Eva
gundam AUs attract the most obnoxious new fans, always have, always will. the last big influx was witch from mercury which introduced a whole new generation to ignoring the tragic horrors of war in favor of the completely subtextual yuri love story bullshit, which is all that actually appeals to those dopamine deprived yuri obsessed obnoxious neo-sex pests
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>>288716925
People say this all the time but never give any examples. What common "tropes" today were invented by Haruhi? People will even say this about 90s anime and are always wrong about that too. It's crazy, but the anime that was big when you were a teenager was just the latest at the time in a long line of inspiration and wasn't the genesis of everything.
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>>288716569
Woke kids are gonna struggle with some of the plotlines, mostly due to the groping and sexual harassment. Everyone else has either seen it already or doesn't care.
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>>288716728
If this post gets dubs, you have to watch it tomorrow.
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>>288717294
haruhi has no interest in normal threads
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>>288716569
>weeb culture
The word really has lost all meaning, hasn't it?
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>>288716569
who cares? I'm glad it hasn't retained normalfag westoid appeal
>>288716645
go back and kill yourself faggot
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>>288716569
>idk why this show isn't lauded as one of the historical greats
Because it isn't that good
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>>288716645
>bought into its limited cultural impact
>limited
anon, Haruhi sold so well it lead to LN adaptations becoming the default format for anime for the past two decades.
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Just watched the 1st season the other day, if i had to guess its because not very good. Dont get me wrong, its fine, but outside of the first arc its just a collection of basic short stories with midling characters that arent particularly special.

Also, while i understand why broadcast order was done the way it was, it definetely feels like a meme born out of necessity since only the 1st arc is long, interesting and has a proper climax and actually spoils some stories because of it.
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>>288716569
Three things:

1) No new material. With no new seasons (apart from that Yuki spinoff nobody watched) and not even LNs, there's simply nothing to discuss. Series with a proper ending stick around longer in the collective memory, but a series that just stops with no climax gradually vanishes. Even hardcore fans grow bored of not having anything new to discuss.

2) It ended right before Attack on Titan caused anime to explode in mainstream popularity. That means the younger generation of weebs missed it by a hair. Again, the lack of new seasons means that casuals and normalfags simply don't know about it.

3) The Seinfeld effect. Because Haruhi was so influencial on light novels and their anime adaptations, it no longer feels as unique and fresh as it was back then. It was the blueprint for modern high school anime, but it was overshadowed by its derivatives.
The main thing is that Haruhi is a blend of different genres (high school SOL, sci-fi, and romance), but later series tend to focus on only one of those genres. Younger viewers thus prefer series that do one genre better instead of being all over the place.
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>>288718126
Haruhi absolutely did not singlehandedly cause the rise in LN adaptations. I'd be glad to look at any evidence you have for that but just because the early 00s was when LN adaptations took off doesn't mean Haruhi was the reason. Boogiepop Phantom and Kino no Tabi were adapted years before Haruhi but still in that same time frame. What evidence do you have that those didn't kick it off?
>>288718524
There have been new LNs though. But anime is obviously more popular, especially with normalfags, than LNs are, so no new anime content after the movie is an issue.
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>>288716925
>>288718524
Haruhi invented nothing, it was a collection of tropes that were already popular at the time. That's the whole point of Haruhi's class introduction, she's listing off archetypes that were already fully established. Moe blob, pretty boy, and Rei clone characters were a decade old by the time Haruhi comes around.
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>>288718600
It made them popular, though.
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>>288716569
>what the fuck makes this show so irrelevant in the west these days?
It's pretty old, and there's not really any big nostalgia movement for 2000s anime just yet.
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>>288716569
The premise is pretty dumb. I get where it falls in terms of the growth of anime, but I think the reality is the dance was more of a meme than people being fans. Like Lucky Star or Azumanga Daioh, its presence is a lot bigger than people who probably watched it.
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>>288716569
>in the west
Who cares what those retards think, it's still relevant in the country where it matters.
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>>288718735
No, Haruhi is specifically made to recycle all of the elements that were popular at the time. That's the point, Kyon is cynical about that stuff because urban fantasy and batshit high concept sci-fi mixed with moe and ***dere girls was already played out. The dynamic between him and Haruhi is that she still has childlike desire to indulge in all that stuff while he's pretending to be mature by rejecting it.

Haruhi's subtext is entirely depended on all of the elements it works with having already gone through the trend cycle over the past decade or two decades.
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Has the novel ended?
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>>288716645
It’s not a personal favourite but this is unquestionably the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen anyone say about the show. I wouldn’t list it in my top ten (or top twenty) but it is actually a true classic and deserves to be watched by anyone serious about anime. “Actually garbage”? I can’t imagine being this stupid. What race are you? Even blacks aren’t this dumb.
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>>288718800
>it's still relevant in the country where it matters
Is it?
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>>288716728
It’s worth a watch, because I guarantee it’s not the show that you think it is. Each character is more interesting than you think at first and they handle the theme of Haruhi’s existence in a way that no other show could pull of as cleanly and believably as this one does. I don’t want to glaze it too hard because your post already shows that you are susceptible to reacting against that kind of thing. But in the most even handed way as I can, I suggest watching it through.
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The show is still very relevant in places like here. If you're asking why it's not relevant with the mainstream modern anime audience? It's simply because that is mainly occupied by black/brown shounentards these days that would never give something like this the time of day. Back when Haruhi was big in the west it was when the biggest audience for anime in the west were white nerdy convention-goers.
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Because the early to mid-00s otaku that it was made by and for is an extinct species. Scratch that, its entire milieu is extinct. It's a historical relic like Otaku no Video was for the generation prior to it.
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>>288716645
Fpwp
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>>288718596
>What evidence do you have that those didn't kick it off?
Man, you can just check how many LN adaptations there were from 2000 to 2005 and how many from 2007 to 2010.
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>>288719265
I am pasty white.
>>288719813
So you have no evidence then.
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new anime fans only care about spectacle
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>>288716645
garbage opinion
>>288719514
simply true
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>>288720522
>So you have no evidence then.
that data is my evidence that it was Haruhi in 2006 and not anything else that caused the LN adaptation boom. You'll have to count them yourself.
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>>288719813
NTA, but I did that before in another thread, and the number of LN adaptations was already increasing by 2006, when Haruhi aired.
>>287550945
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>>288720809
>2001: 3
>2002: 5
>2003: 5
>2004: 3
>2005: 7
>2006: 16
>2007: 9
>2008: 17
>2009: 18
>2010: 14
So, how many of those did well?
Especially the pre-2006 ones
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>>288716569
I think a good topic is why are some shows landmarks in Japan and go relatively unknown or forgotten by the ever clout-hungry western weeboshpere? Haruhi, sure. But other shows like Gegege no Kitaro, Slam Dunk, Fire Force, Osomatsu, Puniru, Chibimaruko etc. relatively big titles in Japan, some of them are even historical. You’d think they would get besought up even occasionally given how trendy it is to be the guy who discovers “the obscure hit you never knew existed”. Hell even Precure was kinda less known until fairly recently.
(Yes im outing myself as a social media user, but thats how I formed this opinion about regular person anime circles.)
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>>288716569
Anon, how many people do you know who have watched Casablanca and The Maltese Falcon? Massively influential movies, famous as all hell. But that doesn't mean they linger in the pop culture forever. You've heard of them, sure, but have you gone back and actually watched them? Even if you did, you'd likely find them to be 'cliche' and boring because everything good about them has been endlessly copied a thousand times since then.

Thats the way that Haruhi is going. Its natural. Its to be expected. Things are just moving faster now because media iterates more quickly than it did in the past due to production volume.
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>>288716569
I'll just copypaste my post of the other thread >>288721486

>Actually Haruhi is getting those bits of zoomzoom renaissance recently. But if you wanted a reason for that being late, I'd say it's a bit less "00s" in its looks and aesthetics, you can't LARP as hard with it.

I'll add to it that it HARD filters retards like >>288716645
It's actually too subtle for a lot of people.
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>>288718310
There are more long stories with proper climaxes than just the 1st arc, with Sigh in season 2, and the movie, which is universally acclaimed.

And if you care about the light novels, there are 3 or 4, depending on how you count, long arcs, which are also pretty good.
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>>288718310
I can see where you're coming from but I think that's a pretty entry level opinion because a lot of what you say is addressed by both the movie and the character arcs, these small "side stories" all have some level of significance for these characters while also exploring interesting meta avenues.
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>>288721509
That principle doesn’t really apply to two genres: horror and animation. These two in particular have fanbase a that enjoy older installments. Horror fans do still watch Freddy, Jason, and Micheal moves. Animation fans still watch Disney classics, Thief and the Cobbler, and love digging up “Soviet” animations from a century ago. Anything that has an element of stylisation to it will have an abnormally long shelf life. Dont western anime fans still claim to watch Bebop, Lain, Azumanga, Lupin, and Sailor Moon?
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>>288721773
/a/ sure as hell doesn't watch Lupin anymore
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>>288716645
This truth nuke caused a meltdown
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>>288718600
>>288719151
I mean Yuki is an obvious subversion of that trope, since its made blatantly clear that she has emotions even during Melancholy, and it serves the purpose of exposing to Kyon how misguided he had been in terms of his judgement of Yukis character, which is made even more clear in the LNs as in every LN there is at least 1 scene of Kyon lampshading how Yuki must be going down the “robot develops human emotion cliche”, when in reality she had already gone through that cliche, and is instead just a “lonely, melancholic girl” who wishes she were able to express and experience emotions like a normal person.
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>>288716569
There are actually permavirgins on /a/ who think cute girl waifslop has ever been relevant and think this kind of stuff was ever “the face of anime” rather than something completely obscure compared to big budget, popular things like Pokémon or Dragon ball or even mid-tier shit like Deathnote.
Just imagine, being a colossal loser permavirgin whose only interest in muh anime is cute girl waifuslop copium, consuming this poorly written crap day after day until they completely forget anything else even exists. Oh what pathetic loser does one have to be to sink that low.
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>>288716569
Haruhi was a show designed to appeal to Otaku specifically, which is why it was so popular among Otaku, but it didn't have nearly enough substance to appeal to a wider audience, which you would need for a show to remain relevant after 2 decades.
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>>288716569
Why was it so popular in the first place? What exactly is the appeal?
I watched the first season over a decade ago and to me it was only slightly above average.
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>>288722150
Correction, it was a show designed to appeal to male permavirgins.
It's not going to appeal to train otaku or diehard gamer otaku or female permavirgins.

Otaku != permavirgin. Many of them are just content being obsessed with trains or military ranks and really don't care much about all this kind of stuff.

>>288722178
Visual design of the waifubait characters. That's how this world works, whether a title becomes popular or not has nothing to do with the writing or anything like that but purely whether the visual design of one or more or them just happens to hit the lottery and become really popular.
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>>288721908
>subversion of that trope, since its made blatantly clear that she has emotions
THAT'S NOT A FUCKING SUBVERSION
REI HAS EMOTIONS
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>>288716569
It's just like a dozen other highschool anime, not that this makes it bad..it exists with the competition. You may argue that it's influential like SAO and it was the one to influence those in the first place. Is it really? Hmm. Such things can be argued one way or the other.
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>>288722376
>>288722268
>>288722150
Did any of you actually watch it? Youre all describing it like a plant trying to recreate a facsimile of a human body.
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>>288722728
Never finished it, but it's pretty clear it's waifuslop.
Come on anon, it's one of those light novels that just put a bunch of waifubait characters on the covers and otherwise in no way indicate what the story is about. Is the actual protagonist ever actually on one of the covers? I couldn't find one. It's pretty clear what market it's trying to get into.
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>>288722728
What else to say? The show is. Having already watched Infinite Stratos, it doesn't strike as particularly amazing. It insists on itself.
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>>288723539
Perhaps. Truth bet told, I have to say it was really shallow and pedantic.
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>>288716569
I've never really gotten this argument because all things considered Haruhi is still relatively popular... compared to its peak, it's declined, sure, but anyone who knows about 00s anime or otaku culture at all is gonna know Haruhi.
Compared to other mid 00s shows that were quite popular:
>Familiar of Zero
>Shakugan no Shana
>School Rumble
>Mai-hime
I think Haruhi is doing better than any of these... excluding shonen (and like, Code Geass and Death Note) I'd go ahead and say it remains one of the most popular shows from its era.
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Another thread filled to the brim with low quality bait that doesn't even try to seem genuine. It's sad that this is what /a/ has become. Instead of posting quality posts on why anons dislike or like something instead anons resort to trolling for the maximum reactions. All the while /a/ and 4chan as a whole is slowly faded away. Sad indeed but it is what you all wished for and it is why I and many other anons only lurk or post during r/a/dio and other yearly events, it's the only time /a/ feels fun anymore. A time when we can all talk about our love for anime. Soon enough even those events will be gone. What a pathetic way to die.
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>>288724377
/a/ is /v/ tier, there's nothing left of value here because everyone left
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>>288724067
That's because “shonen” is just your term for
>Actually popular shit.
It's one of the most popular waifuslop titles ever though I'm not convinced it's actually more popular than the other Haruhi, as in Ouran High School Club. They're at least in the same order of magnitude and depending on the metrics used Ouran actually comes out on top, but waifuslop in and of itself isn't popular despite people who like it believing it's all there is to animu.
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>>288724377
The faster this shithole dies the better.
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>>288722359
I was more referring to the “Rei clone” trope rather than Rei herself, since I am aware that Rei is ironically enough a subversion of the trope.

However even in that case there is a major difference between the Yukis emotions and Reis emotions, in the sense of Rei being quite detached from her emotions, and tends to be confused by them, whereas Yuki is quite a bit attached to her emotions, and actively wishes she were able to express and experience them normally.

And in general I am rather annoyed by the usage of the term “Rei clone” since emotionless characters have existed long before Rei ever did, and its this trope that Kyon lampshades about, so the fact that both are seemingly emotionless characters that subvert that trope by having had emotions all along doesnt change the fact how Yuki is meant as a subversion, on top of them having handled the subversion rather differently like I mentioned before.
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>>288716645
TRVTH NVKE
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>>288724670
Neither one of this is a subversion. The emotionless girl character has never actually been emotionless.
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>>288724670
>I was more referring to the “Rei clone” trope rather than Rei herself, since I am aware that Rei is ironically enough a subversion of the trope.
The Rei clone trope is a weird misnomer, because they're all Ruri clones, including Nagato.
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>>288722359
Subversion might not be the right way to put it, rather let's say it's more focused on "hey this girl has a special condition that is vaguely evocative of autism or other similar conditions and has trouble expressing herself, which doesn't work well in a group already filled with loud mouths who wont notice her".
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>>288722860
>this entire post
Holy shit, /a/ has fallen. Was it the JJK threads?
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>>288716645
But enough about FMA
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>>288724377
It's actually depressing when you come to understand these kinds of posts were right all along. I didn't want to accept it but..
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>>288716569
Author of the LN source material fucked over the fans by basically stopped writing any new novels and just accepted money from gambling companies to slap Haurhi over pachinko machines. After years of silence, people just moved on. Basically the 2000s Japanese LN version of GRRM.
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>>288716645
I first watched it in 2019 and I think Disappearance is one of the best pieces of anime to exist
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>>288725051
>I swear it gets good after 2 seasons!
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I miss Mikurubro
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>>288724972
/a/ is below 2009 activity and our most popular generals are big shonens airing (almost all finished) and schizos necrobumping threads, so now all that's left is engagement bait on a website with zero financial incentive to do so
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>>288725119
/a/ is better than it has been in a long time, precisely due to low engagement.
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>>288724696
>>288721889
Most obvious zoomer tourist lingo imported from the sharty
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>>288718596
>There have been new LNs though
yes and no
the majority of content in these is rehashed chapters published from magazines, there is some new content but not much
apparently with no proper story development as well and after a fucking decade of literally nothing, to boot

its probably one of the worst managed franchises out there considering how ridiculously huge haruhi was at the time and STILL sees discussions
they could probably do a full-blown remake that adapts everything or even finishes the story in some fashion, and it would still end up being highly profitable
and nobody realistically gives a fuck about aya hirano 15 years later either direction, however they solve that, and especially with the western market being as large as it is nowadays
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>>288725139
Insane cope when the thread quality we get is usually akin to this thread
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>>288722860
You are a normalfag that needs to go back and die
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>>288725072
Who are you quoting?
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>>288725119
I wanted to think we could be the change we wanted to see by keeping up effortposting and being constructive but we're really flooded with low effort, low quality posts. They don't even share pictures anymore. I guess SOME threads are still decent but it's so rare now. Like seriously, I'm struggling to believe we have actual "human beings" ranting about "waifuslop" on /a/ lmao.
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>>288721613
Yeah, i heard the movie is the best part of it so im looking forward to it, the books i might check later if i really like the rest of the anime content.

Unfortunately im still on the fence of just watching the new content of the 2nd season or do the chronological order since it was reccomended.

>>288721701
I did just watch the 1st season so being entry level opinion is to be expected but im surprised you said character arcs, from the little i know of s2 i thought it was 2 long arcs with one of them being memeless8. Though i guess 2 long arcs plus a movie might be enough to explore at least half of the main cast.

While you can always take some development out of the side stories, i doubt the lan game or the heater episode will add much of anything. The murder mystery was fun at least.
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Why are Haruhi threads getting spammed with this normalfag retardation? I don't get it, ever since 2026 every Haruhi thread has a couple of idiots trying to ragebait about it having zero influence or trying to make people care that it doesn't have normalfag appeal
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>>288725234
>>288725249
Because we have low activity it's actually a great time for trolls to shit up stuff as much as possible because they know their isn't much else getting posted anyway. I basically just lurk /buyfag/ and some other threads sometimes. It's better to either ignore the thread or just ruin the trolls fun if you feel in the mood to put in some effort wasting time. Jannies don't care either because well we basically don't even have jannies, yesterday a guy was spamming cp for 8 hours straight and it just sat there. I don't think people even bother reporting anymore, because who cares the boards already almost in the grave.
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>>288725234
>implying 2009 didnt see low effort retarded shitposting
2009 was literally when toradora was airing and taiga was shitting up this board anon
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>>288724377
You faggots are more embarrassing than the couple of shonen zoomkiddies trying to ragebait " oldfags " There's literally zero real reason to give up. Just yesterday I saw a chuuni anon publicly humiliate multiple dubfags in a thread so badly one of the faggots that the thread died. I was motivated that /a/ has plenty left to give. Maybe trying mocking retardation instead of giving up to it
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>>288725119
Why is the site always this slow on weekends?
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>>288725239
>i doubt the lan game or the heater episode will add much of anything
Maybe I should rephrase it better but these episodes usually let you appreciate some of the small changes some of these characters go through. The baseball episode, for instance, is quite minor in the grand scheme of things and it's probably mostly remembered for being the first time you get teased about Haruhi's world threatening powers in the broadcast order, but it also lets you see Haruhi has gotten a lot more reasonable and what she actually appreciates, since at the end of the episode she goes along with Kyon's suggestion of dropping out and going out to eat with the gang. Small things like that. The LAN game episode shows Yuki developing some interests, and the heater episode has some implications about the movie I can't really discuss without spoiling it, but I think it's quite important.

>Unfortunately im still on the fence of just watching the new content of the 2nd season or do the chronological order since it was reccomended.
Eh, S2 chronological (28 episodes) is nice for a rewatch but if you just watched S1 you probably don't need it. I think S2 is also fine to watch without that, and it's really not that long outside of E8.
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>>288725317
Plenty of people still care about reporting lol. I just saw anons sagebomb a thread a shitty jeet bait thread to death until the jammies were forced to prune it even after over moderating the " racism. " You faggots are such losers for just lying down like dogs. An insult to the otaku spirit
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>>288716645
look at how you got em seething.
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>>288725377
I like the positive thinking, I'm just not sure this place will be conducive to it. It's sad when Xitter has become a better place for otaku sharing their passion, OC and love than /a/, but it really seems to be that way somehow nowadays.
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>>288724972
>>288724377
>>288725317
Am I just misremembering or did people forget the board has always been shit on Sundays lol? Jannies literally basically take the day off and the shittiest threads and shittiest posts are made
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>>288725329
There's no point, normalfag schizos get off to being assholes and jannies don't care. Why waste time when I could be watching more anime? For example we have one schizos samefagging this >>288716645 every couple minutes. Barely anyone cares anymore. The schizos will have to move on to some other shithole to rot in.
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>>288725356
A lot of anons are out partying and having sex while you spend that time in your room alone.
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>>288725419
>xitter
An infinitesimal higher quantity of ragebait unless you have your timeline solely filtered for nip art like mine. It's normalfag poser central, nothing genuine is happening there
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>>288716645
Permavirgin incels hated this post
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>>288725437
I've made a few other posts in this thread but I'm not the one constantly replying to that post I made. People keep calling it trolling too but I legitimately dislike the series.
>>288725490
>>288725389
These are not me for instance.
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>>288725466
With a decent algorithm you're getting nip art and comments which are always interesting and in-depth. Even Western fans tend to share some cool stuff and love. Not going to say it's that much better but it actually is
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>>288725437
Letting yourself get mindraped by one of the most low quality ragebait posts is just sad anon. MoeCHADs were made fun of more viciously than this during the mid 2010s when anime style elitism was popular.
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>>288725490
>>288725499
Same. it feels almost unreal I have to say that other anons also say “permavirgin”. I thought only I did.

I never say “incel” though.

>>288725466
The real advantage is that you can talk about Japanese entertainment in Japanese with Japanese people there including the very artists that made it.
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>>288725510
I remember that, but there used to be actual organic love as well. Current /a/ feels like it's either normalfag ragebait or shonenshit, with very little cool stuff
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>>288725499
Okay then let's discuss that I'm pretty young and I love Haruhi so it can't be an age thing like you say and I watched disappearance 2 years ago. What do you hate about haruhi? Do you find it tropey?
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>>288725537
Also we've got the worst of schizos nowadays, like the Satania posting autist who posts the same shit in almost every single Haruhi thread. It's just a sad situation.
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>>288725546
You only like it because it's waifu slop for permavirgin incels which gen z is full of.
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>>288725505
There's no worthwhile comments under twitter nip art besides generic praise. Xitter under Musk has become a serious hellscape and ever since they combined algorithms, even Japanese twitter gets filled by normalfag tourist shitting stuff often...There were like 5 mangaka harassment events since the start of 2026. I genuinely don't understand how anyone can use twitter for anything besides an art account
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>>288725546
>tropey
The older I get the more I understand how bullshit that criticism is, not only does it not really say anything beyond the buzzword but this entire medium LOVES its tropes and codes, it's a huge celebration of them.
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>>288716645
Basement dwelling chuds seething, more news at 11.
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>>288725571
I agree, I like "tropey" stuff. I also don't really think it's a criticism. However many people do which is why I assume that's what bothers them.
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>>288725565
Nips will often go out of their way to comment some obscure detail about some random scene and appreciate some of the finer more underrated parts of those works. It's quite interesting.
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>>288725537
There's plenty of organic love for other moe shows lol. The issue really is that Haruhi for some reason has been subject to this normalfag behavior. I think this might have something to do with the fact that it was leaked that it's going to have a new anime project soon
>>288725552
Actually, this is one where I'll disagree. Mods instituted so many proxy filters there's been a real noticeable decline in schizos imo
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>>288716645
Haruhi flopped because it appealed to gooners.
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>>288716569
For many people specially in the west, it was their introduction to anime that portray otaku culture as quirky and fun.
The show itself isn't anything worth writing home about, but it caters to anime otaku a lot back when most anime were less in your face about it. Lucky Star is another example that got a lot of attention because of this.
There was this effort in Japan around the early to mid 2000s to make otaku centric anime more mainstream and make otaku stuff go from being seen as weird to be seen as endearing. I know some retard will read this as "but there were anime made by and for otaku before the 2000s???" but that was not the point of this effort, it was to make it mainstream rather than something enjoyed by a niche.
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>>288725616
Yeah like I said you have some exceptions but it still feels like the numbers are working against us and most activity feels cynical in the wrong sense nowadays. Well I still want to be hopeful so maybe the activity diminishing might mean we filter the trash eventually.
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>>288725371
>these episodes usually let you appreciate some of the small changes some of these characters go through
Maybe i came a bit negative, i personally like side story episodes for the very reason you mentioned also if i like the characters "hanging out" with them in any form is a fun experience, thogh i have to say, watching out of order in broadcast fashion works against both points in my opinion.

Regarding E8, do you think its worth a full watch? Im personally very interested in watching the full thing but i've seen people saying to not bother with anything but the 1st and last 2 epusodes.
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>>288716645
Millenials are the majority of haruhi fans and millennials are slowly being left behind as media evolved and caters to younger diverse audiences. So we instead see tons of old people lashing out that the younger generations reasonably think their show is weird or slop.
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>>288721889
>>288724696
>>288725389
>>288725490
>>288725577
I just can't imagine getting ragebaited by slop so obviously made by one or two people sandbagging that it's scratching the bottom of the barrel, like how can you get so mad at this lol. People are just wayy too high strung these days which I understand somewhat given the normalfag invasion of anime, but still this is so easily ignorable
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>>288716645
Kek, look at all the seethe
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>>288725681
Another one lol>>288725625
It's so hilariously obvious, it's fun to laugh at it for me personally
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>>288716645
Waifuslop permavirgins really hated this post huh?
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>>288719514
>only whites were retarded enough to worship a bitchy chinese cartoon girl
This isn't the flex you think it is
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>>288724377
compared to every other interest board, somehow, /a/ is still one of the best on this website, which is pretty sad.
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>>288725664
E8 has some really cool direction so if you enjoy seeing the same overall script with different "styles" of episodes you can watch it all, or at least maybe watch like 3-4 of them (I think 5 and 6 are the best of the 8). Just be aware it was a single chapter in the LN rather than some huge arc, so don't expect an immediate "8 episodes big" type of payoff.
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>>288725720
Waifuslop perma virgin is a compliment on /a/, either fit in or fit out faggot
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>>288725737
>third worlder tears
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>>288725681
You're not wrong, I don't care for the ragebait, but it's getting tons of samefagging boost (there are NOT that many people ITT) and generally speaking that kind of retardation is taking over quality content sadly
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>>288725751
>GUYS UH IM A CHUD INCEL LIVING IN MY MOMS BASEMENT THAT COULD NEVER GET SEX SO I WEAR IT LIKE A BADGE OF HONOR
Not the flex you think it is freak
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>>288725786
You need to kill yourself
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>>288725737
Niggerjeet hands typed this
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>>288725772
>muh third worlder
Just admit you have shit taste
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>>288716645
The post that broke /a/cels
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We used to have standards
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>>288719179
nope
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>>288725797
Cry more incel loser, you will die alone.
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>>288725786
Again all of this is a compliment
>You don't pay for anything
>3DPD is repugnant
>wizardry is based
Did you really just start posting on /a/?
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>>288725802
You literally have shit color hands retard lol. I don't have to admit anything
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What can man do against such reckless normalfaggotry?
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>>288725831
>u-u-um im a neet virgin loser that literally has no purpose but tha-tha-thats b-b-based on /a/ wi-wi-with my f-f-fe-fellow chuds losers!
Waifuslop incels aren't beating the allegations
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>>288725823
Not really he has his waifu and /a/
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>>288725831
Anon. If you've genuinely been posting on here for the last 15-20 years and you're still a virgin living in your moms basement then defending some punchable anime bitch is the least of your concerns. When was the last time you touched grass?
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>>288717244
ywnbj
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>>288725875
You losers use that as a cope because you realize the clock is ticking and your wasting your lives watching pedoshit and softcore porn 24/7 but that's okay because it's with fellow pedophiles and porn addicts right?
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In a sense this makes it even easier to write off all this retardation once you know it's not coming from actual human beings but weird schizo golems.
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>>288725878
>touched grass
normalfag bot post, completely ignored
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>>288725904
>t.neet loser that will never touch a woman
lol, lmao
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>>288725905
>fat fuck can't accept that language is changing and refuses to adapt while bitching from mommy's basement
Truly pathetic
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>>288725904
Actually it's all the Sataniafag samefagging isn't it?
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What is this thread, are we being raided or something?
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>>288716569
Season 2 and the slice-of-life elements act as a filter for any normalfaggot. The movie, being complex enough to make a shonentard get lost, means that anyone who's gotten that far won't remember the series. It's simple: only battle shonen and a few other series, with luck and/or a lot of merch, have staying power. People are looking for spectacle, a quick emotional hit, regardless of direction, writing style, or any of that nerdy stuff; they just need pretty colors to get some dopamine. Haruhi was never meant to be very relevant; if it was successful, it was because the community back then had more varied tastes. And that's fine; accepting that the annoying girl show hasn't had a significant global cultural impact is better than having a fanbase of retards who learned to read three years ago.
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>>288725938
They know they will die alone without even experiencing sex or having a job so of course they seethe. Anime moe slop is all they have.
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>>288725946
It's like 1 or 2 guys mass replying to call everyone a "permavirgin" on /a/ - Anime and Manga of all places.
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>>288716569
The anine aired 20 years ago and pretty much all discourse on the show itself was over after the Yuki spinoff aired a decade ago.
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>>288725871
>>288725878
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>>288725900
kek bait so low quality I miss ACK
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>>288725956
Nice effortpost but why did you attach a picture of a random star to it?
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>>288725956
>UH MY SHOW TOTALLY ISNT SHIT BECAUSE IT DOESNT APPEAL TO NORMAL PEOPLE AND INSTEAD APPEALS TO WEIRDO PORN ADDICTS RHAT DONT SEE THE SUN
Not a flex
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>>288725946
Yes anon, this one specific haruhi thread is being raided just to hurt your feelings
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>>288725946
No, it's likely one person spamming using two different devices or a fag amd his gay friend. This is why anyone getting mad at ragebait of this low of quality are just weak-willed
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>>288725990
*sea star
>>288725995
??
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>>288725986
Ack still posts very often just they are very subdued now. You can still get them to do the mass reply spam too but they usually stop because jannies insta 3 day them. Spur.us crippled a lot of schizos.
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To everyone who wants to talk about the show, who is best girl?

Yuki>Haruhi>Mikuru for me.

>>288725749
Oh i love cool visual direction so it sounds right up my alley, i guess i will do the whole thing, i dont mind the repetitive script.
>Just be aware it was a single chapter in the LN rather than some huge arc, so don't expect an immediate "8 episodes big" type of payoff.
Wait, so they did it themselves? Damn, i imagine the "arc" is something related to time travel loops from the cultural osmosis i have from it and they played the "looping" part straight? God i wish i was here to see the shitshow from it, what ballsy director.
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>the one thread on /a/ that is not pure coomposting
is pure cynicposting
>the one post that is not pure cynicposting in the one thread on /a/ that is not pure coomposting
is pure metaposting

Not like I would leave anyway. Where would I go? Facebook?
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>>288726005
They genuinely think their "beloved" incel slop has any staying power so people shitting on it must mean "schizos".
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>>288725986
Son of a bitch, don't you ever compare me with that troon.

Is that yurischizo still around though? I remember them constantly shitting up threads with their bullshit and spamming those retarded yuri threads. Jannies banned me for arguing against them too
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>>288716645
This got the waifuchuds riled up lmao
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>>288725878
3DPD is genuinely disgusting, why would you want to have intercourse with the modern women. I don't know anything about that anon's personal life but most zoomzooms and millennials live with their parents. Is that even an insult for the generic neck beard stereotype on /a/? It feels you tourist faggots came out of the 2000s just with updated normalfag slang. It's just really boring that's all
>>288725900
..clock is ticking for what? That " pedoshit " and " softcore porn " provides more value to the world than your entire existence.
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>>288716569
The novelty wore off, a complete mismanagement of the anime (released in disorder, endless eight), the author couldn't keep writting new entries to at least give some sort of ending.
They had a great formula where they had managed to combine SoL highschool and mystery scifi and they fucked it up, badly.
Also Aya Hirano or something pissed off japs o algo, dunno, I suspect most filthy gaijins like myself didn't care about it because we expect artist to be bohemian in their personal life.
Also let's be honest, the art didn't age well, even the owners of Date A Live figured it out which is the reason they updated their character designs and are still getting tons of money, which in turn allows new seasons, go point at how many harem or in general anime shows are in their sixth season.
Pic related showed how you can keep a franchise alive (and one with a somewhat similar premise to Haruhi) despite the original hype fading away and being a niche, they not just managed to complete the entire story and get a some spinoff and films running, they are now going to animate the last season to close the tale.
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>>288726125
Cry me a river incel
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If you're wondering why Haruhi hasn't had a zoomer revival, it's literally just because of Haruhi as a character lol. She's a bitch with personality. Zoomers are literal wussies and can't handle the fact that the first couple episodes involve the main character sexually assaulting another character and then threaten to falsely accuse other people of sexual harassment. I've seen normalfags try to start Haruhi, that's all it is. Nothing about it is particularly complicated with some grand narrative explaining it
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>>288726127
>the art didn't age well
Bullshit, it's pretty timeless. Easily one of the best KyoAni productions visually with TONS of interesting ideas. I'll give you that a few S1 episodes had bug eyes too big but not all.

>the author couldn't keep writting new entries to at least give some sort of ending
Eh, it's more that it didn't commit either way, it could've ended at Surprise. But yeah the writer hiatus killed it. I do prefer no more entries and a good entry to end on than mismanaging the franchise with shit new entries though: it's less staying power but more quality.
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>>288726161
I don't know what happened but it seems like /a/ just got more thin-skinned over the years. Imagine raging or feel down because of bait this mediocre
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>>288726254
I think it's less about the bait itself and more about the state of this board, the bait is just the canary in the coal mine. We DID lose something along the years.
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>>288716645
>endlessly circlejerking about Haruhi until they die.
I read that as jerking off haruhi endlessly.
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>thread immediately died after the singular samefag stopped posting
I'm begging anons to stop getting mindfucked by (1!) poster saying the most basic of ragebait possible. This thread was basically dead an hour ago and at the bottom of the catalog. Sometimes you're your own worst enemy
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>>288726322
Not really. One dude just samefagged spamming
>permavirgin
>chud
>waifuslop
>pedo
>etc
And people got their panties in a twist over that. Just have some self respect, it's almost making me mad seeing the level of trolling that exists these days that people decry the board for
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>>288726347
i'm not saying it's completely irrelevant, obviously even your average /a/ poster has mouthbreather uninformed opinions on it, i'm asking why shows that are 10 years older than haruhi continue to live atop an untouchable mountain of classics whose place in anime history is fully secure, while haruhi languishes in the chasm between the 90s and now despite your average comedy/romance/school anime owing way more to haruhi than sailor moon or evangelion
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>>288726406
Like I said I think it's more about the lack of something else than the spam of one guy, but I don't disagree with what you say, the baits are obviously really bad, it's just that there is also something else that is deeply wrong and this is indicative of it
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>>288726238
They probably didn't know it was going to be a hit, for what I read it was just "another project to advertise the novels", but even then a bit of good direction could have saved things, they lacked that and end up self-destructing.
Both Mikuru and Yuki could have worked as carrys, which is what I suspect they tried to do with Yuki, then again, it was a bit of a hard sell, she is great as a literary device and supporting character but it's obvious the franchise didn't have some sort of financial carry character you could keep milking like crazy.
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So what did people think this is?
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>>288726490
>Both Mikuru and Yuki could have worked as carrys, which is what I suspect they tried to do with Yuki, then again, it was a bit of a hard sell, she is great as a literary device and supporting character but it's obvious the franchise didn't have some sort of financial carry character you could keep milking like crazy.
You mean, like, a character to milk for merch or staying power? I don't think it's an issue of that, I think it's a political issue with Kadokawa combined with the writer block leading to no new entries for a while. Just releasing S3 would've vastly increased the staying power. As for the project and how they managed it, I think it was fantastically realized, and if you go and read about the production you can see the directors and writers were incredibly passionate and worked in close tandem with Tanigawa who even wrote an original episode and the Yuki ending for the movie.
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>>288725839
SOVL
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>>288726451
Not really. The only wrong is just the general degradation of the Internet with /a/ being part of it
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>>288716954
>except for the 60s there's at least one major titan from each decade that still probably exists in the minds of the casual fan - you can argue about what that is i guess, i'd say any of your ranmas/urusei yatsuras/kimagure orange roads from the 80s (if for no other reason then the impact they had on modern romcom/comedy/slice of life bullshit) and obviously gundam from the 70s

Time to give you the brutal truth, these are only remembered because new shit comes out. Impact means nothing. If no new shit ever came out, they'll be "forgotten" regardless of how much of an impact they had. Persistent exposure and new shit is the only reason One Piece is popular in the US now after 4kids failed adaptation. Evangelion would be waaaaay less popular if Anno never whored it out and the last thing to ever come out of it was EOE. I mean look at Urusei Yatsura, you ask any casual fan what Urusei Yatsura was 15 years ago and no one would know. Hell, you could talk Urusei Yatsura on /a/ 15 years ago, and most would barely know what it was outside of the hardcores who cared about things like anime directors or being a fan of Rumiko's work. Now its way more well known among casuals thanks to new shit and future funk/vaporwave algorithm shit (most still never watch it tho). Its even weird you bring up kimagure orange road, since that is way more irrelevant then Haruhi is.

And I heard so Haruhi is getting new shit, so watch as Haruhi magically becomes unforgotten.
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>>288716645
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>>288726540
Both things, Kurumi gave that to DAL to the point even with season 3 being made by J.C.Staff she still managed to keep it alive, consider OPM and Nanatsu No Taizai got killed by them.
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>>288716645
>all those incel replies
Insane how hard this btfo /a/
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>>288726679
>And I heard so Haruhi is getting new shit, so watch as Haruhi magically becomes unforgotten.
It's already a lot more prominent lately in Western SNS. Actually it was never niche, just not quite reflective of the original success, but still one of the popular series. Even moreso in Japan where actual human beings exist
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>>288726679
>you ask any casual fan what Urusei Yatsura was 15 years ago and no one would know
i guess my point was more 25 or 30 years ago the casual fan (i.e. someone who attended cons but was essentially just watching whatever got licensed vs working on fansubs or whatever) would know, and that fame has guaranteed it a place in historical retrospectives if nothing else.
>Its even weird you bring up kimagure orange road, since that is way more irrelevant then Haruhi is.
i like KOR, it's probably way less famous 40+ years on but i think there was a time where it influenced a lot of peoples perceptions of what a love triangle rom com looked like. you could even say the mix of romcom and soft sci fi in it directly predated something like haruhi
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>>288726238
I dont see how it could’ve ended at Surprise, we still haven’t properly developed Mikuru and Koizumis characters to the point where we could give the characters a proper send-off, there is the whole thing about Yuki becoming more disconnected from the Data Overmind and potentially becoming a normal human girl, and how this seemed to have inspired Asakura and potentially other interfaces, which needs to be resolved, and there is the whole setup with Tsuruya in Intuition, although since that came out after Surprise I guess you can discount that.
The point is that there we’re still at least 2 LNs away from being able to do a proper satisfying ending, and thats if you focus solely on the main story and decide not to write any side stories inbetween.
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>>288725389
>>288725701
>>288725806
>>288726708
Pathetic samefag.
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>>288726029
Haruhi and it's not close
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>>288726805
Cope incel
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>>288726796
I think Surprise ends with a good send-off to everyone since it solidifies the character dynamics and what they meant: the SOS Brigade truly became a family at this point, supporting characters got to shine and show what they meant to Kyon as well, and with Kyon's refusal to transfer the power it's a self-affirmation to embrace the new brand of Haruhi's controlled chaos. It's like a Disappearance type ending, I think there's still more to handle but it can also end at that satisfyingly.

>>288726029
>Yuki>Haruhi>Mikuru for me
You'll love the movie
Haruhi and Yuki are usually top 2 for a lot of reasons, I think Haruhi still takes it for what she represents and the additional development she gets but Yuki is a VERY close 2nd place for me (she arguably got even more development than Haruhi in the novels).

>Wait, so they did it themselves?
"Eight" stands for "August" in the original yeah. People didn't believe they'd actually go for 8 episodes at first and it broke them, understandably, because then you end up with a 7 episodes season 2. Thankfully the movie came out to deliver in spades.
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>>288726836
I had not read the rest of the thread before posting that. I am disappointed, I thought you were a little better than that, you are boring.
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>>288726029
>Yuki>Haruhi>Mikuru for me.
i'm a massive rei defender but yuki just doesn't do it for me. mikuru is essentially as haruhi describes her, big boobs, moe, but not much else. haruhi is the only real option, though i imagine she'd be absolutely obnoxious to be with unless you have the immense patience and attitude of kyon.
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What's with newfags suddenly hating on haruhi?
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>>288727252
its le problematic because haruhi isnt a perfect blank slate wish fulfillment doll and mikuru gets molested by her a few times. plus itsuki is kinda gay for kyon which makes the newfags feel weird about themselves. pussy shit
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>>288726870
Im not a fan of open-ended endings, especially in the case where have an active lingering plot thread for one of the characters.
Disappearance works better as an open-ended ending because you can easily imagine where each of the characters stories will go on in the future, but the post-Disappearance content messes that up for Yuki because it actively explores her growth towards becoming more normal and eventually a normal human like Koizumi said, and Kyon hopes will eventually be the case, and thus you cant just leave this development up to imagination, you are actively given the actual thing, and are then abruptly cut-off.
Of course the same applies for Tsuruya post-Intuition, you cant just neglect to explore her hinted at greater significance.
And I also just feel that Mikuru and Koizumi should get more development out of principle if anything due to them being main characters, even if theyre far below Yuki, Kyon and Haruhi for me.
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>>288727252
>suddenly
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>>288727293
I guess it can be subjective. I've been here since 2007 so the recent Haruhi hate is sudden to me, might not be to newshitters like you
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>>288727335
I don't know why you think everyone needs to like the same anime you do. Supposed "oldfags" really are fragile.
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>>288727216
Yuki only superficially resembles Rei, in the sense of that they’re both expressionless, have a bob-cut, read books.
But their character arcs are completely different, Yukis arc is about her desire to be normal, to be able to express herself normally and able to communicate with others without difficulties born of her lack of inborn social skills, whereas Reis is about her asserting her own identity independent of Gendo and Nerv.
In simpler terms Yuki is a weird human, wishing she werent so different, whereas Rei is someone stripped of her humanity, fighting to regain her humanity.
Also their personalities differ quite a bit more than their demeanor shows, Yuki is extremely perfectionistic and obsessed with getting every last detail exactly right, whilst Rei is quite unbothered with these things, as most evidenced by how messy her apartment is, as well as her cutting her fingers whilst making dinner in Rebuild 2.0. This also leads into another difference, which is that Yuki likes to talk at length when she is discussing or explaining something she is deeply knowledgeable in, whereas Rei just doesnt do anything even remotely close to that, in general Yuki is far more analytical of a person than Rei is.
Lastly Yuki is quite a chill person who likes to indulge in fun activities with no practical purpose, whereas Rei is always completely stiff and serious, only caring about her duties and nothing else. This is also shown in the difference between the kind of books they read, Yuki loves to read science fiction and mystery, whereas Rei reads psychology and genetics books.
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>>288716569
This kind of happy go lucky millennial slop is no longer appreciated in a modern, jaded world of the zoomer. It has been replaced as a cultural icon and is no longer the reigning high school franchises.
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>>288725664
what possible reason is there to not just watch the whole show
like who goes around trying to figure out which episodes of a show they can afford to skip? wtf are you even watching it for?
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I've been rewatching the series lately after not watching it for many years, i think it's just really well written, charming and funny. The direction is really subtle and nice, it's artsy without being pretentious and it has a really cool unique identity all around, from the VAs to the soundtrack to the visual style... Kyon is a really compelling protagonist where you can totally see through his bullshit and his romance with haruhi is really heartwarming, complex and sincere compared to most Anime romances.

Just a great show
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>>288716569
It's the No.1 show for posers
>Oh my heck, this show is referenced, memed and treated it as some kind of otaku holy grail! I better play along so I am socially accepted!!
This and only this.
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>>288727704
>it's artsy without being pretentious
That's the real reason why it's not as popular, people can't LARP about it
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>>288726491
So what was this?
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>>288727658
I dont know yet but E8 is infamous for "wasting" the viewers time since its not like the novel does it. I dont mind at all but i could understand some people thinking its dumb.

>>288726807
>>288727216
Haruhi is alright but like you said she is very obnoxious, if you have short temper she is essentially a go-to-jail free card with how easily she can make you want to strangle her.

>>288726870
>You'll love the movie
Sounds great, i love my little autist slowly finding her humanity.
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>>288727872
i just think it's not in the cultural zeitgeist at the moment but it probably will be, right now people are obcessed with 90s sci-fi stuff like eva or lain...
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>>288718524
>Attack on Titan caused anime to explode in mainstream popularity
In America maybe.
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>>288728213
It's not impossible, but you'll still find that the majority of people engage more with the IDEA of a work than the works themselves, meaning what matters most of how much glaze the show gets and the level of pretentiousness it presents itself with
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The last time it had anime content was over 15 years ago and it wasn't a long running show, most stuff that was popular from that era hasn't been relevant in years.
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I still wish I had The Dissociation, damn it.
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>>288728229
>In America maybe
almost as if i said "in the west" in the OP
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>>288725680
aren't millennials making the media though? Fujimoto, Akutami and Gotoge are all millennials
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>>288716645
Fpwp
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>>288728085
>Haruhi is alright
Haruhi, when she is forced to take things seriously is the best and it's not close by a long shot. She also gets better as time goes on.
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>>288727704
Kyon is a really great example of the kind of character that lies to everyone to varying degrees, including himself. Which is kind of how real people are, though less dramatically. What's always interesting to me is how much some people struggle to get their heads around characters being like that. I think one of my favourite reoccurring elements of it is how you can feel him almost willing himself to be more into Mikuru than he is because she's the most conventionally desirable girl of the group, and it would be so much simpler than admit he's developing feelings for the nightmare god tomboy he's also trying to tard wrangle. You can practically see him trying to make himself ignorant of the latter possibility at points.
Takes a solid writer to make it land, of course. You need to see that there's a consistent logic or inconsistency to how a person is that feels deliberate. It's something I really love about most of Tomino's work on UC Gundam, as far afield as a comparison it is to make. Kyon's not exactly a basket case like a Char or Reccoa but it still took him a whole ass movie to make him admit he actually liked what having Haruhi in his life had done to it.
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>>288716569
>s2
I loved Endless8 and thought it did exactly what it set out to do; create a high pressure atmosphere to the viewer so the weight of every step and tiny gain during the loop is almost physically painful. But I can definitely see it killing the series and driving the average viewer nuts
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>>288716645
What's up with this stupid revisionism? Why do people nowadays claim haruhi was a garbage show? Who tf started this lie.
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>>288716645
nah man there's nothing limited about it's cultural impact. you are right about everything else. millennial fags would rather jerk off to old shows that have absolutely no relevance nowadays and make shitty posts that die with 5 replies rather than simply watch something else.
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>>288716569
This year they will announce a new season and it will be the most watched anime of said season, fuck the west.
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>>288716569
It's just a very comfy anime
It's very similar to CGDCT in it's themes, but it also has fantasy and slight mystery.
Overall the stakes are never too high, and the interactions between the characters are chill for the most part
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>>288731787
>Overall the stakes are never too high
Is the end of the world really not that high of stakes?

>>288731027
Poor Mikuru-chan, missed the top5, which you expect is where all main characters should be, not only by one spot, but two.
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>>288716569
the hype has never been the same since the fuckup of endless 8 and the movie was seen as the end of the anime
it had its moment it sjust over now
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>>288716569

Because Haruhi's a BITCH. And Kyon's not a real name.

Most anime viewers are done with bitches and faggots with no real backbone to promote gender equality on them.
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>>288716569
It's good as a whole, but there is no shortage of similar LN stories with their own unique merits. Only the volume 1 and home movie episodes remain particularly special.
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>>288725202
Ahh, it's the permavirgin who thinks /a/ is his permavirgin safe-space and uses the word “normalfag” to mean “not a pathetic loser like me”.
You are safe nowhere. You will never get your safe space and even on /a/ you are the bottom of the barrel consuming bottom of the barrel slop.
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>>288716645
I was literally just born when this anime was coming out and I loved it after watched it.
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>>288716645
TRVKE
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>>288716569
Normie and zoomer tourists constantly running for things that on top right nów. They don't care about retro stuff, they want to feel like part of some kind cool society that watches new anime. They don't even watch it, it's more like they play it in the background and after a while they pretend to watched whole thing
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>>288725076
holy shit I forgot about him
what happened?
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>>288716569
Idk why you'd even ask this. Why would you want Haruhi to be relevant in the modern western community? So many of them are just complete posers like >>288733302 said, they'd just pretend to watch it and any discussion around the series would be mostly retarded, because saying stupid shit to maximise engagement is how the modern internet works. It being irrelevant nowadays is honestly a sign of quality, let it be cherished by those who appreciate it and leave it as that lol

>>288726127
>even the owners of Date A Live figured it out which is the reason they updated their character designs and are still getting tons of money, which in turn allows new seasons
I don't think so. Date A Live was almost entirely kept afloat by its gacha game that got popular. The anime quality/artstyle of DAL only got worse from season to season, with the studio constantly changing
That being said I am glad DAL is finishing a complete adaptation, I plan to catch up myself
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>>288716645
But enough about Monogatari
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>>288726127
I found a neat new LN and apparently it was by the same writer of Date a Live.
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>>288725171
It used to be much worse when the board was faster.
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>>288717244
>yes lets focus the market on Japan
>a country with a rapidly declining birthrate
>in 20 years there will barely be teenagers left to watch anime
>its a good idea to never let other westerners appreciate our art
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>>288733038
>I was literally just born when this anime was coming out
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>>288716569
Is it time to post the Kamihime collab?
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>>288716645
>cultural impact
>defined a certain portion of their youth
did it tho?
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>>288716569
it's 20 years old
nothing stays relevant forever
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back then only cool shit like sci fi mecha and martial arts used to get anime. only after the 2000s I noticed more and more derivative school setting garbage got more exposure. essentially displacing the genre geek audience and creating a pederast echo chamber.

the west doesn't like pedophilia and female protagonists so no wonder Haruhi is unpopular with MCvalues
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>>288738545
>trolling outside of /b/
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>>288716645
The funny thing is that even if you're old and are afraid of change, you could easily be a champion of good anime from that same period as Haruhi (specifically, the 2006-2009 era when Haruhi aired on TV), such as Welcome to the NHK, Gurren Lagann, Spice and Wolf, FMA Brotherhood, Bakemonogatari and Kimi ni Todoke.
Unlike Haruhi, these aforementioned anime I listed still get discussed, and not just from an insular and stagnant fanbase desperate to have their beloved show be remembered despite being insanely overrated the way it is with Haruhi threads.
Seriously, literally every single fucking Haruhi OP is just them asking "NYOOOOOO WHY ISN'T ANYONE TALKING HAROOHEEE? MUH NOSTALGIA MUH VIBES MUH KYON-KUN DENWAAAA ENDLESS EIGHTT!!!!!!".
Every.
Single.
Fucking.
Thread.
These people cannot stand the fact that Haruhi isn't the most popular and beloved anime on the planet. It bewilders these insufferable midwits that people don't see it as the Citizen Kane or War and Peace of anime.

Anyway, you hit the nail on the head, and all the seething responses you got from Haruhifags proved your point. Gave me a big smile when I read to the end of your post and then skimmed through all the (you)s you got. Also, fippybippy, in case it wasn't obvious enough.
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>>288738309
>it's 20 years old
>nothing stays relevant forever
lmao, I see this cope every single time in Haruhi threads. They pretend like there are no anime from around 2006 that still remain relevant to this day. Not to mention of course older anime from the EIGHTIES AND NINETIES that have managed to stay WAY more relevant than Haruhi (AND have managed to grow as fanbases, instead of staying completely insular and stagnant the way the Haruhi fanbase very clearly has).
Also, funny how you say "nothing stays relevant forever" instead of "no anime stays relevant forever". You're such a Haruhi fanboy that you're willing to throw other artistic mediums like film, literature and music under the boss to cope with Haruhi's lack of relevance. I'm not going to waste any more time with this low hanging fruit of a cope post you've made by pointing to examples in film, literature and music and so on that have actually remained relevant despite being years, decades and even centuries older than Haruhi.
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>>288716569
College Haruhi when?
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>time travels to college
>haruhi not referring to kyon as darling
it's over, they're in the friendzone forever
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>>288716645
Hide zoomer posts
Ignore zoomer posts
Do not reply to zoomer posts
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>>288740100
Haruhi would never.
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>>288740254
I'm a millennial. Sadly you can't use your boogieman.
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>>288716569
>what the fuck makes this show so irrelevant
I reject the premise of your entire post from the outset and I stopped reading here.
The show is not irrelevant. Do you know how I know? Because you didn't even mention the name of the show, and everyone who has posted ITT knows exactly what show to which you are referring. You're a fucking retard and should consider killing yourself. But before you do that, you should learn basic fucking grammar and where the Shift key is on your keyboard, then learn to stop using lebbit spacing, you absolute faggot.
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>>288731139
>You need to see that there's a consistent logic or inconsistency to how a person is that feels deliberate
That's well said. Kyon lying to the audience is a pretty important part of Haruhi.
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>>288738943
>>288739282
OP is literally the first time Ive seen someone who actually says they enjoyed Haruhi make a “why isnt Haruhi relevant anymore” thread, every single other time it was obvious ragebait OPs trying to get a bunch of (you)s, in no way are Haruhi fans desperate about Haruhi seemingly not being relevant amongst zoomers in the west, and most seem to even like it due to it not bringing absolute midwits such as yourself into the fandom.
The only reason to care about whether Haruhi is still popular or not is because it might mean they will eventually decide to make season 3 at some point, which after nothing happened during the 20th anniversary is almost certainly never going to happen, or because it might get the author to finish the series and/or continue the main story.
And Haruhi is not worse than any of those shows, it is a genuinely really enjoyable watch despite some weaker episodes, the Melancholy arc (episodes 1-6 chronologically) and Disappearance are both really fucking good and stand the test of time, and I will defend Endless Eight as adding a lot to the overall story and experience, even if it did go a bit too far, and could of been shortened by a few episodes, one should watch 4 episodes at an absolute minimum, as the arc does a really good job of making you feel despair like youre trapped in this loop with these characters if you do watch 4 episodes, that you dont otherwise get with just 3 episodes, let alone 2 or 1.
And of course the stories after Disappearance that didnt get adapted are even better than the stuff that was adapted, even if none of them quite reach the heights of Disappearance, but then again those stories are better that the Disappearance LN, its just that the movie improved that story a lot.
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>>288741470
>it is a genuinely really enjoyable watch despite some weaker episodes
precisely how i felt about it, hence why i made this thread with a ragebaity question but coming at it from the opposite direction and without the usual low quality samefagging bullshit like >>288716645
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>>288741470
>bait OPs
>Fpbp
>Genuine OP
>Fpwp
Balanced. As all things should be.
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>>288737486
This but unironically. Better less people with proper appreciation than retarded western "fans".
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The voice of the heroine had a sex scandal and called the fans "orctaku" for not liking her being a whore.
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>>288716569
It's lame just like the uncs who grew up with it.
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>>288739282
>They pretend like there are no anime from around 2006 that still remain relevant to this day
Relevant to what extent? Is, say, Monster still "relevant"? Do you see Monster threads all that often? How many Cowboy Bebop threads do we get on /a/ nowadays, despite its cult classic status? This is so asinine. I'm pretty sure there are exceptions and fanbases and niches, but there are contexts to this, and lots of things at play. Haruhi lost a decent amount of staying power for a few different reasons, including the endless S3 teasing, the Yuki-chan and pachinko bullshit, but it still has a lot of grip, even if only for "uncs" or whatever you Xitter kids say nowadays. The return of the LN, 10 years later, was met with considerable success, especially in the only first world country https://sneakerbunko.jp/haruhi/special/comment100/

For some reason, however, Haruhi seems to be one of the only series where a few schizo are so obsessed with numberfaggotry, as if they were trying to prove something about it. It's not just that they don't like it (which would be fine), they need to be proven objectively right by the world somehow. What a laughable endeavor.
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>>288716569
It was pretty shit back then, but the ending was a banger.
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>>288716569
its dead
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>>288744078
>Do you see Monster threads all that often?
There's a storytime right now.
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>>288721773
>Dont western anime fans still claim to watch Bebop
Yes
>Lain, Azumanga, Lupin, and Sailor Moon?
Damn youre out of touch
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>>288745937
>Damn youre out of touch
all of those except maybe lupin are still regarded as the token examples of "old anime"
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>>288737486
japan's birthrate isnt any lower than any other first world country, stop repeating this meme
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>>288716569
So Guts Nika is real. Will the God Kyon theory be true?
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>>288716569
>is mostly a footnote of embarrassing weeaboo culture now
This entire website was built on that "embarrassing weeaboo culture", everything you know and love was built on that culture. God damn I hate 2016fags so fucking much it's unreal. You will never belong and you are the poison killing everything sincere.
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>>288733782
>That being said I am glad DAL is finishing a complete adaptation, I plan to catch up myself
Season 3 is already too rushed plus has trademark JC Staff QUALITY, but seasons 4, 5, and Date A Bullet are absolutely awful. Do yourself a favor and just read the LNs after the Natsumi arc, Tobiichi Angel onward. Hopefully this next new studio can adapt Tohka Good End properly though.
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>>288717294
Maybe don't start with a dishonest bait OP. Make a sincere one next time.
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>>288726127
>Also let's be honest, the art didn't age well
Bait used to be believable. This one isn't even trying. Haruhi is timeless and looks better and better as the general quality of anime goes down the tubes.
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>>288745788
Yeah and I very much like seeing appreciation for such a good manga that has an unwarranted "overrated" reputation but it's a rare thing, we didn't get any of that for years.
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>>288747473
Good artist.
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>>288747019
Nah God Kyon theory never made sense, the situations are clearly made by haruhi. Would kyon really create endless 8,or give mikuru a beam? That's all haruhi.
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>>288747817
Isn't the theory that Haruhi is doing those things because God Kyon gave her the power to?
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>>288716645
Wrong. I watched it late as a newfag and I loved it. Then I read the rest of the novels with no one to talk to about them and I loved it.
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>>288716569
Becaues 2 decades passed.
It is the same as you would ask why isn't Columbo popular why did nobody watch x movie, why didn't listen to y song from decades ago.
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>>288725720
We need to host scanlation threads 24/7 to keep Innit contained
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>>288748186
We see haruhi before getting her powers no? Kyon goes to the past and meets child haruhi and she never uses powers yet. So i assume she got them one day. But not because of kyon.
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>>288718524
>Younger viewers thus prefer series that do one genre
That tells a lot about new generation. They cannot comprehend multiple layers.
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>>288725816
It's sad that the board cannot be united by an anime anymore. Those three were universal. Now everyone is in their little bubble. The closest thing are WSJslop adaptations.
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>>288747019
>>288747817
If you read the novels you'd know that God Kyon is true
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>>288748384
What? How?
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>>288741432
A big part of the fun of the show, which the original airing order of S1 very cleverly leaned into, is piecing together what's being unsaid or outright lied about.
Very few of the would-be heirs to Haruhi over the years thought enough of their audience to leave anything ambiguous or implied but unstated. They tend to just focus on the paranormal high school escapism and not the genuinely quite bizarre fantasy and sci-fi elements, nor the quite smart character writing.
It's quite a unique situation where it's not simply that Haruhi did it better than what came after, but very little ever even tried going beyond a surface-level imitation.
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>>288716569
I watched it with my brother when it was airing and we both thought it was shit
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>>288727216
>mikuru is essentially as haruhi describes her, big boobs, moe, but not much else.
this is the best part
also we know she becomes a sexy office lady in the future
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>>288720809
>>288719813
>>288718596
it was zero no tsukaima and haruhi
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>>288748482
Sasaki is Kyon's ex and former reality bender. When Kyon's interest turned to Haruhi, the powers transferred.
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>>288716569
The Mc is annoying and unlikable skank. The main male is a self righteous boring dick head.
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>>288716925
>Haruhi inventrd Slice of Life comedy and surrealism.

Wrong Azumanga Dioh did this before Haruhi was a idea and Tomo > Haruhi as a more entertaining character.
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>>288718524
>I though Azumanga Dioh was Anime Seinfeld
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>>288734433
New material is still being made though. The last season came out two years ago.
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This thread is full of zoomer larpers who are pretending they werent in diapers when haruhi aired
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>>288716569
Because it's not great. Youre just nostalgic for it. Lucky Star was my first amine outside of TV stuff like Pokemon and DBZ, but I missed this. I watched it for the first time recently, and I could see how it got popular, but it isn't that good
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>>288716569
>kino opening
>it's actually a bait and switch and instead every episode is about the guy buying groceries for the most boring club ever who don't have the decency to be interesting or funny outside of "By the way I'm a robot time traveler psychic but only in two episodes"
We don't hate Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi enough. It fails at being a thriller and a slice of life. My Hero Academia is fucking better at slice of life than this.
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>>288750655
I'm 30!
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>>288749430
This makes a lot of sense. Thanks. I just wonder why her?
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>>288749306
Zero no Tsukaima had less than half as many circles at Summer Comiket in 2007.
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>>288751173
What the fuck are you talking about, none of what you said is even remotely true
>>288750730
Why dont you think its that good, I think its pretty good, with interesting and fun storylines, characters and themes, especially if youre talking about it in conjunction with the movie, sure some episodes are a bit weaker, and a few characters are underdeveloped, but its overall a pretty solid show.
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>>288748283
>why isn't Columbo popular
But it is. New gen discovered it and liked it too.
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>>288752346
Like House? Awesome!
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>>288752144
zero no tsukaima and its fanfics were the direct inspiration/training grounds for the next generation of LN that ended up becoming the popular anime, like re;zero
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>>288753398
and yet it was significantly less popular than Haruhi as evidenced by comiket numbers.
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>>288753591
Haruhi and her friends are just hotter and they had the internet behind them
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>>288754261
>Haruhi and her friends are just hotter
literally what the fuck are you talking about
you are delusional.
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>>288754282
I looked up the anime and yes I am. It's been about 15 years so I forgot.
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I can't wait for it for it's second coming
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>>288754282
I wish I could feel anything for women
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>>288717244
This.
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>>288728365
I wonder in how many times Haruhi wore a thong during this scene in Endless Eight. Surely she tried it at least once in the thousands of recursions of time.
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>>288748384
>>288749430
Sasaki doesn't change reality using her own will, you never read the novels
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I've entered the thread and now i'm angry. Thanks a lot /a/.
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>>288716569
It has almost no value outside being a zeitgeist of that time. To really like it you should have that optimistic mindset and boredom. This is barely possible nowadays
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You guys ARE following Haruhi on twitter, right?

They're currently doing a song competition for "God knows"..
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>>288716569
Being unfinished has a way of kneecapping your legacy
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>>288716645
truke
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>>288760081
>sobs in Zero no Tsukaima
No, it being "finished" by the author's friend doesn't count. Just like Berserk won't count.
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>>288721378
>Fire Force
Too based to let loose
Also:
>Ashtray scene...
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>>288758659
This is the only true answer.
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>>288758659
guess so. not a lot of optimism these days
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3 days until the new voice drama written by Tanigawa.
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>>288716569
I never watched it, but just from that picture alone, it looks like 795 different anime.
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>>288716925
>Seinfeld invented sitcom
Weird, what do I call all those black and white sitcoms I used to watch then.
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>endless eight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzo8DHzmh5o
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>>288750126
And even that couldn't stop it from being irrelevant.
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>>288716569
because it's since been mogged by monogatari



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