New episodeThis game is pretty complicated
im tiring of the stereotypical naive girl protagonist that needs saving by the stereotypical stoic man.
Okay but what exactly does it even mean to win or lose in this game
Hang on, why is Akiyama even here? Shouldn't he be playing in the Liar Game for winners?
>>288736741Evil Nao!
Let me guess, goggles and slant eyes are the masterminds of this team
>>288736798I guess if the sum of all the money in their Swiss bank accounts surpasses or not the sum of their opponents.
>>288736854DEADƎΛI˥∀
>>288736741>This game is pretty complicatedI just shudder at that prospect considering how badly explained the cards-in-the-bag minigame was...
>>288736880Yeah no shitI'm asking what happens if you win or what happens if you loseI could just withdraw 0 every time and pass everyone from the other team and be left with exactly 400 million at the end if I wanted
>>288736798I guess if you keep doing wrong doubts you could be forced into debt.
Nao...
>>288736842we were robbed
LONG Nao
>>288736920Speedwatcher, if you did that you'd be left with 100M at the end, not 400M, and thus be in a net debt of 300M. The only money you get is the one in your third-country account which starts off at 100M.There is no win or loss condition, the only thing that matters is that you get the money from you third-country account and use that to offset the 400M debt.
CONTRABAND LET'S GOOOOO
In the manga didn't they "meet" the other team through a window? Or am I mistaken
>>288736920>and be left with exactly 400 million at the endEach player only owns the money in the Swiss bank, anon. They have 100m in the Swiss bank and 300m in the opposing team's bank, and they need 400m in the Swiss bank just to break even.>I'm asking what happens if you win or what happens if you loseIf you win you go to the next game. If you lose you're out. If you lose with more than 400m in your Swiss account you're out with no debt.
>>288737076>If you win you go to the next game. If you lose you're outThis seems backwards
>>288736817This is the game for winners.
>>288737103It's not though. It's just that players are usually expected to be in debt when they lose and get out.
>>288736920>and be left with exactly 400 million at the end if I wanted100 million, dumbass. You only keep what's in your Swiss bank. And you start the game owing the 400 million. So you have to get an additional 300 million
Good news Liarbros, we keep climbing higher. Nearly top 10 already >>288675722
>>288737033WRONG. Much like every other game, if everyone did nothing everyone would break even, because each team gets the other team's money (what's left in the ATM) redistributed to them at the end. But because the other teams obviously won't do that, Nao's team also needs to contraband or they'll end up in debt.
>>288737206Retard, nobody was talking about "everyone" doing nothing. The speedwatcher I responded to was talking about him being the only one to do that.
>>288737206All of the players are ALREADY in the hole 100 million, anon. That's the debt they owe from losing previous games
Doubting people... is good...?Trusting people... is wicked...?
>>288737236>All of the players are ALREADY in the hole 100 millionNao isn't, speedwatcher.
>>288736854For me, it's longhair and headband. They look like the masterminds.
>>288737282Neither is Akiyama, speedwatcher
>>288737298Except he is in debt and that's why he kept playing.
>>28873685450 rounds vs a brand new team too? Contraband is going to be one kino game. The rules aren't that complicated but how exactly will Nao and Akiyama navigate this game if they want to save everyone? Also Leronira giving Nao props was a nice touch.
if they just do the Nao strategy and let everyone pass with the money everyone wins :)
>>288736854You can't convince me goggles isn't sunglasses from Minority Rule who bleached his hair.
>>288737338He isn't in debt, he just doesn't have enough to pay the withdrawal fee. Same as Nao in the first game.
Yokoya desuka... mmhahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
oh shit it's Rerouch
>>288737360Functionally in debt, the debt is just not monetary.
>>288737388Not a debt because they shouldn't have needed to pay anything to not play their wicked games, but the maskbros might have hurt them if they refused.
spoiler: they are going to lie
>>288737433Why are you lying?
>>288737433SONNA...!!
>>288737433Sonna...
if you get the entire cash after declaring an amount bigger than what's inside, and everyone knows that the briefcase can only hold 100 mil max, what's stopping the inspector from always calling out a number equal or higher than that? did I speedwatched and missed a rule?
Nao earned her liar license after the last game. Congratulations!
>>288737512if there is nothing in it then they'd have to pay half the declared amount as penalty
>>288737512If the case has 0 then the inspector forfeits his call amount.
>>288736836>>288736842Need more Evil Nao
>>288737538After you do it twice you've got nothing left to lose so you could just keep doing it and totally cockblock the other team
>>288737538>>288737552Ah, true. But if that's the only counter, then everyone will always use numbers />100ml anyway
>>288737586>implying they wouldn't put you in the redAnon...
>>288737604There's 50 rounds and you only need 4 rounds to exfil your entire cash. So you can expect the opponents to play many rounds with empty cases. It wouldn't be worth the risk.
>>288737636That's 50 rounds for 9 people though
>>2887376619*4=36
>>288737661Yes, so worst case 14 rounds of empty cases, about a quarter to a third of the rounds.
>an entire episode just to explain the rulesholy fuark, this one is gonna be massive, good thing we're going for two cours and aren't even half way donealso, best girl is here
Winning also means you're getting the rest of the other team's money so you might be tempted to play it safe to avoid losing that edge at some point. There's a lot of risk vs rewards here
Jun Fukuyama as purple suit guy is so trustworthy
Rate them.
>>288737822
>>288736741Damn, Fukunaga's tits grow larger every game.
Fukunagas tits were HUGE this episode, damn.
>chinese character has slant eyeskek, every fucking time
>>288736854Yokoya's wild ride starts here.
Thoughts on evil Nao?
So after rereading the manga rules it makes a lot more sense. Here they are if you want to read them to make sure and no spoilers of course.
>>288738071Her voice did things to my loins
>>288738102
>hand holdingNao is a slut
they gave a lot of aura to them
>>288738140The frames where Akiyama turns into hentai MC man looks weird
bruh they chickened out of the north-south korea analogyi'm very sad that the (albeit tenuous) real world comparisions like the downsizing line are getting cut out
Do you guys think they'll change the ending
>>288738279no
>>288738289oh
these visuals are utterly crapwhy use a pawn piece herethat money stack looks incredibly genericI'm surprised there's such a disparity between these visuals and the great visuals of game 2>>288738279at this rate yeah they'll censor the fact that liar game is a crystallisation of the fact that we are all pitted against each other by elusive elitesthey'll say it's all for a reality tv show
if they gave out the credit cards during the losers' game does Akiyama not have one?
>>288738279It will require years to get to the ending even if they don't stop. We're on chapter ~40 out of 200.They can change the final explanation for the liar game. Iirc live action had different ending.
Stop spoiling faggots
They cut the gag where Akiyama has to remind Nao that the game's setting isn't real.
>>288737103if you kick out the winners, then the later games would be boring because it would only be composed of dumb losersAlso, you would need wayyy more games to whittle down the starting playerbase down to 1 champion
>>288738342Anon your spoilers>>288738383Ok then I might pick up the show, I only remember it being a lower-stakes Kaiji with an idealistic protag who learned nothing, then a very scary antag in the form of an old guy with a fishing hat
>>288736741Did they make Fukunaga's tits bigger?
>>288736842incredibly sex
>>288737822I like the eyebrow raising guyfirst guy looks like homeless emperor
>>288736842Stop liking evil women
>>288738366they reused the scene of the loser's game as the rendenzvous point for the next gamethat is, there's a timegap and the cards were handed to players as they arrived to the collection point rather than when they left the loser's game earlier
Reminder to manga readers to keep it in their pants for newfriends
>>288738692Nao is so precious
>>288736741Can Fukunaga put on the wig again please?
>>288737022Na(rr)o(w)
>>288738927That would be gay.
>>288737786Her tits keep getting bigger.
>>288738071I want her to step on my dick and laugh
>>288739008I deserve Denki Anma by evil Nao calling me a retard for trusting her and milking me out of more money
Is hitler guu in this game?
>>288737786It's jjk all over again (its cap and garbage, retard)
>muh spoilers cringeNao is rartedThe rules are dumbUre gay
I guess you reason why you need to parameterise the doubt is so that you can assigna cost to the smuggler, which in turn creates that 4th case where y > x>>288739084i wish cinema people would have figured out a way to communicate abstract ideas visually. It limits the medium so much.I suspect the main challenge is accommodating the different rates and orders at which people ingest information
>>288736741Is that tranny wearing one of those comically large fake breast prosthetics?
>>288739233*to the inspector if they falsely accuseI guess the game wouldn't be as elegant if it was a flat fee? I suppose it would also make smuggling 100M less risky since inspectors could cheaply call it out
Stitches.
>>288736842Cute!
>>288739258Yeah you can't have a flat fee or else it's just a game of "are you smuggling at all?"
>>288739286who the fuck needs this shit? stop spamming threads, autismo
>>288739286Cute!!!>>288739393Shut the fuck up I like them.
>>288739456I can hear this image
>>288739527Alluring
>>288739456She really is gorgeous
>we got Nao!Fucking BASED
>>288739502>>288736854Our nerds are not as cool as the other team...
Last stitch.
>>288736842>>288738071Evil Nao:"I never trusted you and I expected you to try and betray me.""I understand what's going on around me.""Annos"
I flip a 3-sided coin. If it lands heads, I smuggle 100 million yen. If not, I smuggle nothing.Your turn, inspector.
>>288738071CUTE
>>288739756>I can't believe I have to save Akiyama-kun again!
SONNA MASAKA BAKANA..DID NAO LE BECOME LE EVIL!?!?!?!?DASUKETE AKIYAMA-SAN!!!!
NAO U DUMB FUCKBEING BAD = GOODBEING GOOD = BAD
NAO YOUR KOKORO
NAO..... BECOME LIAR GAME
Someone people are not ready for the LIAR GAME
>>288739756>Annos
suNAO
>>288737373lmao'ddesu yooo mWHAHAHAHAH
>>288740182kojima has done it again
>>288739700Akiyama stop acting like you wouldn't date a cute honest retarded girl. You basically went on a date before the game anyway
>>288740520He shoulda took her to a malt shop after the bowling alley, fuckin punk
>team Evil has no cute evil girlsLame.
>>288740681they have a reverse trap
>>288736854PEAK incomingLITERALLY, not kidding it's the best arc of the genre
>>288739613How can this nigga be so expressive with a mask on?
>>288739741Thanks stitch anon
>>288740681>cute evil girlspost some for reference>>288740843I kinda like chair better but both are up there
I realise that there are asymmetriesI wonder what is the significance of the inspector penalty having a factor of 50%I guess a mathematical/economics approach to the game is useless when the number of parties is low.
>>288736741holy FUARK
>>288741429>>288741447I really like that we have a few dedicated anons trying to reason out the games and the optimal solutions. Although I guess in the case of this one game there's still a big "analog" factor about bluffing, fear, how other people behave, how late in the game it is, etc.
>>288741429>>288741447akiyamasan please explain!
SEX with evil Nao
>>288741471Is it to encourage the inspector to make calls? Since one successful 100m call is worth two 100m calls on empty cases.
>>288741512eh I was just playing aroundthere's no dominant strategy>>288741707that is the effect it would have I suppose
>>288736741The game itself is actually really simple. It's what the simple rules allow you to bullshit with that's complicated.
>>288737786i hope she dates men,and, more specifically, me.
>>288739999It's called the Liar Game. Also 1 off.
>>288741813ENTER the series man bad guy
Why does he wear the glasses?
>>288736741very excited for Contraband game, I feel like it's got even more depth and complexity of interactions than the previous ones. seems kinda hard to develop a strategy here. betraying your own team could make sense, especially since there is no penalty for team loss, or is it? they didn't mention anything iirc>>288736817her not realising there would be another team or at least her reaction being interpretable that way was so funny >>288736854>Mista X blanco>>288739286it's Naover>>288739456>SONNA
>>288741447>>288741429You can reason it out as much as you want but ultimately people are panicky dangerous animals and the game is won through social engineering with math as its basis.
>>288741953He isn't evil, he simply used a DKP system he learned by raid leading on World Of Warcraft in his youth to social engineer his group a little
is the anime adaptation any good then?
>>288737260This is the single most important conversation in this entire story by the way
>>288742258the voice acting is good, the rest is subpar
>>288737260>>288742266It's pretty good
>>288742299All along, Nao was a liar... to herself
>mfw just learned they finally made it into an animewhat the fuckprobably due to squid game i guessis it good?
Is this gonna be 24 episodes or can this game really be finished up in one to two episodes?
>>28874239424 episodes and we're probably ending with this game actually it's a big chunk
>>288742402Damn what the fuck? Well that's cool then, seems like a very unique game.
>>288737260SONNA
I wonder if you can smuggle money through other means than the official border check.
>>288742705How many bundles could Nao fit up "there"?
Would you let Fukunaga titfuck you? DON'T LIE
>>288738102>>288738121So uh, what exactly is stopping me from guessing there's ¥100M in the case eveey time? If I can claim the money so long as it's less than or equal to, it's obvious you should guess the maximum amount the case can carry, right? What's the catch? Why didn't the two characters with brains mention this? Or is the game delibrately broken and people are expected to break the rules and smuggle the money however they can in order to win?Or am I being stupid?
>>288742986Wait I JUST realised what the catch is, I am actually stupid.
>>288736741What are those tits made of?
>>288742897Yes.
>>288742986You're probably not wrong in that the optimal move is to either pass or doubt 100 depending on whether you figured out the briefcase.
>>288736854MY HERO (you know Who)
>>288743029Silicone.
>>288742897No
The right approach to game evolves as you progress btw because each round gives you info on how much money that particular player still has, unless they start card switching to mindgame.
>>288738071These are really cute
Scholars, if you roll two regular six-sided dice, which is more likely, getting 11 or 12?
>>288743516>which is more likelyFalse premise. It's 50/50
>>28874351611, are we seriously stuck with the silver and gold balls bullshit again?
>>288743516
fucking ugly bitch she needs to put the wig back on
>>288736741Bald anime Fukunaga is kinda hot
>>288738795They're restoring them to their canon manga size
There's a small, irrelevant spoiler that will be revealed next episode that Nao was fertile during the Revival game
>>288737786>good thing we're going for two cours It would be kind of funny if we just got two episodes into the arc and then the season ended with no confirmation of a sequel.
>>288738071>Yosh~! instead of SONNA...!Evil Nao a cute
>>288742070Yeah that's the neat thing about these kind of mindgames. Sometimes the mathematically optimal solution is the worst one because everyone knows that and play around it. But because you know that they know you can play around their playing around that. But then some based retard just goes with the optimal solution after all and throws everyone's plans into chaos. HOWEVER!
>10 minutes with Nao in a soundless, viewless roomWhat would you do?
>>288742258It's fun, but quality-wise it's serviceable at best.>>288742897If they reveal he was a real woman all along, maybe. Bald girls with big tits are a fetish of mine.
The character designs look prettier and more consistent in this episode.
>>288739312So beautiful
Amazing. I take it that next week is the last episode?
I know it's more consistent with his recent artstyle but I don't like Long Nao bring back mid 00s moeblob Nao.
>>288744638Guess exactly how much money she's got in the suitcase.
>>288739007The estrogen is working!
I bet Nao is going to win by doing some shit like having 999,999 yen in her suitcase
>>288736842Not even fictional, Nao has turned full evil
Nao was a basic bitch...
>>288746171Nao's brain cannot handle holding more information about people. It will now explode
>tags: corruption
>>288746184She will have to evolve, that's the true path to fixing someone!
The game is cool but I got overhyped when I saw the airport
Liar Inc is powerful...
Naobros...
Bet xhe regretted this one after the team reveal
>>288738140Give her a break, she was just too happy, her instincts took over
>>288736972The infamous retard...
>>288736796How many dicks do you think it could fit?
>>288741813Slant eyes looked so much like he'd have Lelouch voice so I was surprised when this guy >>288737380 had his voice instead, but he was having fun with the role for sure
>>288746171They cut the part where Nao used her friends not taking her cries for help seriously in Game 1 as an example of her not really having a true connection to people.
I can't remember the outcome, but I remember really liking this game.
>>288746278Poor girl
>>288737204Nao is too much of a cinnamon roll, everyone's starting to love her.
the ending song is so comfy
I want to molest Fukunaga's collarbones and shoulders.. wig or not. That's all, thanks.
>>288736854ENTER
>Don't worry! We've got Nao-chan on our side!She's such a powerhouse player worthy of respect.
I read this manga like 16 years ago and the only thing I can remember is that the girl mc was really cute
>>288742044>her not realising there would be another teamDidn't she bring up other teams in the previous game, herself? It was a bluff, but still a real possibility considering there even was a loser revival round in the first place.
>>288736854why is Renji from Bleach here?
>>288736764imagine you're getting the meet the opposing team in a big stake gambling game, and your opponent is a bald chick with giant tits. What are you even going to say to that?
>>288737155So by "winning" the bowling centre game, they're back in the winner's cycle with those who won the minority game?
>>288748555>What are you even going to say to that?hello are you single
>>288748555Are you also bald down there?
>>288748587Yeah, bowling was a way to keep playing but also a way to save someone by having him lose (if he can pay his debts at least)
So will Contraband finally be a good game?
>>288749371I don't know about "finally" but it's easily one of the most impressive games of that kind in the medium I think. Very in-depth with interesting developments and multiple win cons being exploited.
>>288751074you do a 'SONNA MASAKA BAKANA' while making the most retarded face ever conceived and fall for any retarded scheme the enemy makes. You need to be a vagina haver to seduce a whiteknight to help you tho
>>288751220You fool, I was lying about being a vagina haver.
Just finished the episodeHoly fuck the game is convoluted boring messWhy are japs so bad at making minigames?
>>288738071Precious. That grin needs to be protected.
Games where almost all the rules are bullshit and irrelevant are fun. The revelation that the money doesn't even need to enter customs and that's why the manga kept showing you blueprints of the play area is fun.
>>288751426It's not a minigame, it's a game.
>>288736842Yokoya's terror
>>288745533She is still the prettiest in the manga, anime Nao is too rectangle
>>288751297SONNA...
>>288745533Why does everyone love pointing out that Nao is stupid? She's trying her best!
>>288753296They just dont want to admit they would be Nao in a real Liar Game
Nao is smart
>>288736741This was my favourite game in the manga :)
>>288736741a tranny with huge breasts?
>>288754016she's preop
>>288736741This is the kind of anime that was made for batch release. I can't imagine having to wait every single week for just a small development.
Unfortunately for you, anime onlies, nao only becomes more cunning right after this game which i assume is season 2 material.My top 3 favourite gameatm gamepandemic gamechair game
>>288754206sex game when?
Has anyone translate the new manga short sequel?
I want to do many things to Nao...
>>288754640I prefer sunao
>>288736972>>288739718
>>288754206atm game is fantastic but the length and constant twists did wear me out a bit by the end. Chair game is peak.
>>288754016implants
>>288755617I'm not a fan of how it ended. There were alot of mindgames throughout only for it to end with everyone just blocking yokoya.
>>288755957I understand that sentiment but it does make sense. Words won't take hold on someone who hates your guts. Part of the reason why violence exists in the first place.
>>288756069To clarify what I mean: Yokoya made a fatal strategic mistake by being an asshole.
Anyone knows where to read the Liar Game The Last Game Sequel Manga? I thought it was going to be some shitty side story, i didnt think it actually continue directly off the finale.I hope the anime adapts this too.
Not liking the body block is a low IQ take. Not only is it thematically coherent with the message of all the games (i.e. you don't even need to play or understand the games class solidarity is enough), it's also no different from just stealing the chairs which everyone was already doing. Gaia could've gang stalked and yanked the chair from Yoyoka before he even sits on it the fuck is he gonna do he's a nerd.
>black bars AAAAAA help me AKIYAMA-san!!!!
>>288756274it's currently being published in grand jump mucha & mecha, I don't think anyone's even bothered to upload full raws yet
>>288743347you can aim to lose from the start straight away, no?
>>288748587yeah they can't have their playerbase diminish by a factor of 20 every stageA factor of 3 is more reasonable
>>288756274It's on reddit but it's released on some esoteric bullshit. Pray to god someone sane picks it up soon. >chapter 1 on mangadex>you need to DM some discord mod for chapter 2>chapter 3 is on a fucking google doc
>>288751942eh it's cool the first few times but you lose the opportunity to make complex strategies when you can ignore half of the rules. Though tbf I suppose you couldn't have a genuinely complex strategy in entertainment media anyway because you wouldn't be able to convey to the entire audience
>>288754273only the first 3 chapters I think
>>288756498>the bystanders are a metaphorohhh neat
nao... aki.... my retarded wives
>>288751426>convolutedGame is incredibly straightforward. Maybe you're just retarded.
I rabu Fukunaga
This one seems pretty hard to ever guess right
>>288758023Don't worry, I have a foolproof plan.
>>288758023They're not supposed to guess, they're supposed to interrogate.
>>288740520Yes, he needs to marry his Mom replacement.
>>288758099Oh right, welp I don’t remember them specifically forbidding physical violence in the explanations so I wonder if that’ll be used. He did say that you couldn’t touch the case and shake it around.
>>288736836>>288736859>Turn evil>Becomes hotterEvery single time!
>>288736854Hey, Jesus is here.
>>288739333Walking thumb.
>>288740520She reminds him of his mom. It's weird, ok?
>>288741429>>288741447
>>288741813I like the guy on the right. His eyes are filled with DETERMINATION.
>>288744119>ThumbnailHow could you trick me like this!?
