The previous thread is about to reach the limit. Let's continue discussing the newest revelation about Guts, his nature, astral shit... Or whatever.
>>288784589Curiously they left him out of the flashbacks
You have to be REALLY retarded to see the plot point: "actually your actions are not chosen for you or part of a great plan, but all yours, since you were born" and think "CHOSEN ONE! CHOSEN ONE! "Its literally the opposite. Its Chosen One (Griffith) x dude who had to struggle and was outside of casuality (Guts)Even more stupid because if this makes him a chosen one, then this has been the case for decades since the Eclipse chapter.
>>288784589It's based af and the beast of darkness is his stand
>>288784645I was also surprised. Imagine that massive, world layer bending whine of sissies after being reminded that Donovan was an important element of Guts life (to some degree).
>>288784600Exactly. That's also a good way to put it, I mean why Griffith is worse than Wyald ever was.
Who know Guts has powers or wasn't fully human before this chapter?
>>288784700Anyone who saw what he has been capable of since The Lost Children.
>>288784650The worse is yet:>"GUTS DOING SUPERHUMAN FEATS BECAUSE HE WILLS A LOT AND IT MAKES HIM STRONGER = GOOD">GUTS DOING SUPERHUMAN FEATS BECAUSE WILL LITERALLY MAKES HIM STRONGER = BAD"
>>288784645For griffith that 1 year of being dungeon raped was worst time of his lifeFor guts being raped by donovan was just another monday of misfortuneOur rape victim recovered swimmingly desuHe couldve ended like kevin nash
>>288784589Berserk is hard to discuss because there are people who’ve never read it, are resistant to criticism, or are full of headcanons. Like, the Black Swordsman sucks, the Golden Age is kind of good, but the character development is pretty weak outside of Guts and Griffith, and speaking of the literal devil, he isn’t the mastermind, he was literally broken by a literal force that controls destiny. I know it’s a meme, but was he really that wrong? People love the Golden Age for being supposedly “gray,” but they apply black-and-white morality to Griffith’s choices. The series is full of retcons; the Golden Age itself is a soft reboot, and even Miura’s “Lost Children” sequel arc retconned the Black Swordsman out of existence. Like, the arc ends in such a way that it never acknowledges the Black Swordsman’s existence. And that’s not even the third or fourth major retcon. The series is always doing this. Also, Guts’ JRPG party is better. Farnese is one of the best characters in the series.
I just Griffith to return being a bro, at least as a final act.
>>288784650I think I can cope by hoping its meant more metaphorically. That Gut's actions are merely not bound by fate. The part the really throws me off is the last panel - saying Griffith and him are the same. Griffith being a being of the interstice? I don't know if that really fits the themes that have been set up. Griffith desperately clung to his supposed fate, that's kind of like, the point, right?
>>288784650If Guts is special because of the way he was born then that's exactly what it is.
>>288784589What does it mean that Donovan didn't appear in Guts' journey through his memories?
Some things I've thought about:-Casca is almost certainly kushan. Not sure if people have come to this consensus yet, but the chapter in not-england where we see the kushan children that were going to be sold into slavery by the pirate crew look exactly like casca hair texture and skin wise.-Assuming Casca is indeed kushan or half kushan or whatever, why have casca kidnapped again right before they make it to the kushan empire? Considering that was right around Miura's last chapter, I assume they at least knew the immediate new chapters so that is most likely Miura's decision. He just didn't want to elaborate anymore on her story or have her do anything with plot? I can't imagine she'll have anything left to do with griffith that would be compelling. I guess she can't be around Guts until the ending where they defeat Griffith with the power of true love. -For that matter, why have Isma disappear with the rest of the fantasy creatures? No ideas for her either? I guess it's a reasonable choice but Serpico and Farnese's brother are also kind of a waste of space.-The psychological components of berserk are one of the weakest aspects of it, the chapters where they're in casca's mind and guts is literally the black dog are just not very interesting for such a generally creative and original manga. I can't say I'm eager to see an even lesser version of that with the continuation.
>>288785031Being a Kushan is completely irrelevant. When she was created, she was part of that group that, if I remember correctly, even included a “Native American,” and I don’t think the Kushan had been conceptualized yet. They didn’t even show up until the end of the Golden Age.
>>288785031Casca is product of her great grandpa banging a brown lady and then everyone including her dad married a midlanderShe just always worked in the sun so she has perma tan in addition to mixed featuresIn my mind shes partially spanish or portugeese
>>288785009It means that donovan was small and guts was more angry about his adopted dad selling him like a piece of meatIt was as traumatising as having a cuetip there
>>288784732qrd on Kevin Nash
>>288784589Isn't this the guy who raped Kevin Nash?
What did Miura mean by this?
>>288785078Could you elaborate? I've never heard about the native american thing before, as far as I'm aware it's mostly been white characters, a couple black characters: donovan, the leader of the rhinos, and potentially pippin although pippin is obviously way too ambiguous as miura's admitted self insert.I think you're correct that the kushan weren't planned yet, and that it's possible casca was not originally intended to be kushan, I can't imagine it's a coincidence that Silat was introduced as early as chapter 41. And, if that is the case Miura could've just made the children not look like Casca, but they're practically dead ringers. We'll never know now but I'm think it's pretty realistic she was kushan.>>288785162I don't know, supposedly there are people from all over christendom in vritannis to see off the fleet and I don't recall any looking very dark.
>>288785262It's like poetry, it rhymes
>>288785286Of course, there are no natives in Berserk. It’s just that he seems like one, but he might just be the silent, burly type. Which is what many of these “native” characters ended up representing. It’s just that Berserk hadn’t defined many things that early on.
>>288785031>>288785162Casca is the product of the author's fetish (based).
>>288785078It can be passed off as Casca's parents having some foreign ancestry. I doubt Miura was ever planning to go anywhere with it although it could have been an interesting subplot considering how important the Kushans have turned out to be.Could've had Griffith pass her off as a Kushan princess or something to pacify the regions.
>>288785338>makes his perfect woman in casca>marries a japanese womanWhat did Miura mean by this?
>>288785374Griffith was a mercenary who sold his body when he needed to. I never thought he was the “mastermind” that people made him out to be. That’s another thing I have to say about the series. Griffith is portrayed as someone he wasn’t. The fact that he exchanges glances with Guts and manipulates him doesn’t make him a genius.
>>288785450We all lust after brown girls but having one as a wife results in a mutt childI couldnt do it to my own flesh and bloodThats why you marry white tomboy thats been roasted by sun
>>288785332Yeah that's reasonable, but just because he didn't plan it from the start doesn't mean he didn't decide to do it later. We know from him his friend that not every chapter was set in stone and that he would change stuff. You're definitely right about the native trope that's somethin you see in brotherhood of the wolf and predator and so on, but Donovan Boscogn look far more black than native. Pippin is a crapshoot, so I can't really think of who's supposed to be the native in this instance. >>288785374That's a cool idea having her be a fake princess or something along those lines but I don't think it fits his luciferian role where the pope himself has been convinced he's the savior, everything in existence except for a rogue apostle is practically bending over backwards for him. But I definitely do want to see what they do with casca, she is one of the longest payoffs for any character arc ever with how long she's the brain addled nun character from flesh + blood for so much of the manga.
>>288785374>Raped by a lord demon
>>288785538I think that's what he was hoping to do, too.
>>288785214Sweltering Summer of 1992Detroit alleywayWcw wrestler vinnie vegas (kevin nash) is walking thru an alleywayNobody knows how it started,some say it was a coincidence,other say he was in a frisky moodEveryone agrees that 14 to 21 black thugs raped and gaped kevin nash in the sweltering hot summer of 1992Im afraid its trueKWAB
>>288785584Dam
>>288785450Miura never married anyone>>288785584I mean yeah, fair, but Casca also has light colored eyes in the manga and has plump lips and big ears. I think she's kinda supposed to be moorish. And Guts and Griffith are obviously white.
>>288785554>I don't think it fits his luciferian role where the pope himself has been convinced he's the savior, everything in existence except for a rogue apostle is practically bending over backwards for him. The Kushans still don't though. Just saying it'd make sense from a medieval perspective for Griffith to act like he's marrying a Kushan royalty or holding them hostage in order to pacify the region. That's how things were generally handled back in the day, you dealt with your biggest threats through marriage or taking hostages.It's also always been remarked how Casca looks like a princess when properly clothed.Anyways it would've been more of a Golden Age era plotline when such politics were still relevant
>>288785673Griffith is fr*nch
>>288785673Samefag, the way Miura drew her just doesn't scream Japanese to me.
>>288784589I've been saying Guts was outside of causality of fate since we got lost on the boats. On a reread it's obvious Miura always meant for Guts to be something like this, many characters point out how his appearance disturbs their "fate". I'm just surprised it took this long for the plot point to be pointed out, I was pretty sure it was never going to be explained.
>>288785673>>288785737Ultimately though, she's cute in every iteration and I have love for every version of Casca. Whether her eyes are blue or black, her skin is dark or just tan, or her nose is big or button.
>>288785538>virgin crying about something as stupid as "tainting his lineage" lol
>>288785584
>>288785450If black women were like Casca then everyone would be married to one. Unfortunately, almost all of them are the complete opposite.
>>288785538lol triggered chudcel
>>288785769She looked like a bug when she first appeared. Miura picked up his game pretty quickly though. By the end of Golden Age she looked unbelievably hot and cute
>>288784893He was special anyway since the Eclipse with the exact same stuff. All this does is recontextualize his pre-eclipse actions, its not like he got a huge boost of power or a destiny to follow. Some anons theorize that this might have be the reason gor why he is as strong as he is, but to be honest tits not "really" confirmed that he was doing that, tho its a possibility, and in the end it changes nothing.
>>288785587dear oh dear but he was 7 feet tall I just can't believe a man like that would be raped like that
>>288785825Compare that to this
>>288785826The point isn't about specialness, it's about how it came about. The eclipse happened in the narrative and is a result of the characters' actions, and that's interesting. The circumstances of Guts's gestation aren't in the story and aren't a result of anything the characters do, which is not interesting.
I wonder how the rest of the planet is handling the astral and material world merging.Must be crazy on Berserk Japan and Berserk Americas.Some people dislike, but I always found amusing that if this remains the Berserk world is bound to turn from a dark low fantasy setting into a JRPG world. Even usual rpg stuff like "willpower and friendship giving you power ups" and "barbarian rage increases your strenght" with magic users, magic creatures and magic items multiplying.
>>288785825That's just how her nose is drawn in that one panel. The shitty Dark Horse scan washed everything out and made a couple anons think she wasn't always supposed to be darker skinned.
>>288785975Not everything in a narrative is about what characters do. In this case its about how characters react and deal with it, and the inplications that it brings.
>>288784589>donovan is the literal black swordsmanI do not know how, in almost 20 years of being a fan, it never occurred to me
>>288786042>if this remains the Berserk world is bound to turn from a dark low fantasy setting into a JRPG world.That was always the point
>>288786067Right, but nobody has any reaction to Guts's birth outside of the first chapter. Nobody deals with it and there are no implications- until 100+ chapters later it comes out of the blue to explain a major plot point. That's the least interesting way it could have been handled. That's bad writing.
>>288786188Every moment of Gut's life has been colored by the fact that he was born from a corpse. Nobody reacts to it because he doesn't tell anyone about it. You, a homosapien of adult age and average intellect, are capable of picking up on context and subtext and making inferences and otherwise reading at an adult level. So stop pretending to be retarded for the sake of being anonymously argumentative on the internet, you'll make your mother cry.
>>288786220Absolutely nothing has been a result of his unusual birth besides "he was adopted to a person unfit to raise a kid".
>>288786243Skull knight disagrees
>>288786042Poorly, Falconia is supposed to be the last bastion of humanity. Empires have ceased existing, everything is in chaos and people are dying in droves. (Except the Kushan, they didn't really even notice Fantasia happened lol t. Mori)I'm sure they'd eventually learn to cope though, the worlds used to be merged in Gaiseric's time. But Griffith obviously had something else in mind, he's collecting everyone in one place and the apostles are dealing with fantasy creatures by force, rather than the people learning to live in accord with this world like they used to in the past.
>>288786304You're right. He does.
>>288786331Him not residing in the interstice until he was branded doesn't mean that the circumstances of his birth aren't significant.It can easily be said that he was simply not in touch with that side of himself until the branding, after which his inner beast starts showing up.He could have waltzed through life not knowing anything of it, if not for Griffith's machinations.
>>288784589Berserk ended in 2021.
>>288784706>Anyone who saw what he has been capable of since Wyald.ftfy
>>288786771>Anyone who saw what he has been capable of since killing 100 men during the warftfy
>>288786497>doesn't mean that the circumstances of his birth aren't significant.Then how come they are being brought up only now? Both SK and Flora had million chances to tell Guts of his special birth/make him reunite with his "other half" (which is a compelete headcanon bullcrap on your part and the interstice never worked like that). Instead they give him a crude armor that can kill him and/or his friends
>>288786497>Him not residing in the interstice until he was brandedWhat are you even defending at this point? The new chapter states the opposite
>>288787104We don't even know what all of it amounts to. It could be that Flora will just help Guts draw some power from the Astral world like even fucking Farnese can do at this point. Guts also wasn't exactly receptive to Skull Knight's guidance until later on.The crude armor was something they resorted to in haste. Now that he's stuck in cave by his lonesome, it's obviously a better opportunity to teach him how to take advantage of his unnatural state rather be constantly victimized by it.That's been a thing from the outset, as spelled out by Skull Knight. Whether it's because of the brand or because he's always had the tendency to linger between the world of the living and the dead, it really makes no difference. That's his one shot at landing a blow against the God Hand.
>>288787245All that means is he could see fairies and shit better than most others (which is why Chitch is shown). That's always been a thing. But after being branded he's literally all in.
>>288787246Are you retarded? They were clearly setting something up with the dwarf on the island, who was going to do something to his armor. He made it, after all. From what I recall, I think they mentioned something about mastering the armor.As for his sword, we don't even know if the battle against Griffith was supposed to go the way it did, given that Mori is just making shit up. It's already stated that the Dragonslayer has been changed through killing thousands of monsters and apostles.
>>288787354How do you think he's going to master it, if not by learning to reinforce his spirit without requiring Schierke's help?
>>288787354Also it's not the sword that is the problem but the fact that Griffith can see everything coming.That's why Guts needs to become more "attuned" spiritually with the state of his being instead of fighting it.
>>288787321>better than most others (which is why Chitch is shown)And how did you define that since seeing fairies is the most basic shit any human could do since the very beginning?>That's always been a thing.Nah
>>288787578Because Miura constantly reinforces it as an important trait for Guts, even worthy of Skull Knight making mention of it.You can judge the story based on some early scenes in a tavern when the story wasn't even fleshed out to anywhere near the degree in Miura's mind, or take the obvious hints that the story has evolved since then.
>>288787246>We don't even know what all of it amounts toYes, let's wait before making retarded justifications like you do>The crude armor was something they resorted to in haste.There wasn't a haste when Guts first showed up in Flora's mansion>That's been a thing from the outset, as spelled out by Skull Knight.It wasn't. You are completely twisting his words on this page >>288786304 to fit into your headcanon>he's always had the tendency to linger between the world of the living and the dead, it really makes no differenceThan what's the point of the chapter's reveal?
>>288787647>Than what's the point of the chapter's reveal?To reinforce into a depressed Guts that rather than treat his brand and connection to the interstice as a curse, as the Kushan did by putting him in that cave, he should come to accept it as a part of his being as he's been closer to the interstice than most humans from the start due to his closeness to death. And also realize that it is the key to, as Skull Knight once put it, to being half a step ahead of the God Hand, allowing Guts to finally land a blow on Griffith.
>>288787635>Because Miura constantly reinforces it as an important trait for GutsLike when?>even worthy of Skull Knight making mention of itLike which ones?>You can judge the story based on some early scenes in a tavern when the story wasn't even fleshed outIt's not just the early scenes. Most of the people in the manga were able to see fairies like Puck with no effort>or take the obvious hints that the story has evolved since thenIt was never inconsistent with itself before the continuation. Miura has never retconned his own worldbuilding and story
>>288786304It's metaphorical, for fucks sake. Even then, you could assert it as a "sixth sense" with Guts being able to crawl out of any life or death situation through determination and willpower, because he has BEEN through it since he was a child. Recall the moment when he was a kid, after he was outed from the camp and wanted to die. The pack of wolves came by. What happened? He reacted subconsciously. Whether through selfishness or desire, Guts surviving his own birth inadvertedly gave him a deep desire to keep living. >>288786331And all this does is just SK saying "because you're branded, you now see spirits and demons and they will hunt you" because he was forcibly given a mark that bears magic. The demons always existed in Berserk, normal people just couldn't see them. We see this as EARLY as him killing the girl and father from the carriage. >>288787578>since seeing fairies is the most basic shit any human could do since the very beginning?Faeries can show themselves at will, and the first we see is Puck. Berserk has shown Puck to be a fucking idiot, so it's not surprising he willingly shows himself. As to why no one in the pub reacts to this and instead try to kill him like generic bad guys: I don't know. I don't think Miura thought that deeply about it, he just wanted to paint some cruel people before Guts violently kills them. All of early Berserk is basically setting the premise before GA, basically everything before the slug demon is a premise set up.
>>288787728So you're just acting obtuse and refusing to acknowledge all the canon panels from Miura I posted. Ok.
>>288787707>treat his brand and connection to the interstice as a curseThey've already solved this problem with drawing a seal>he should come to accept it as a part of his being as he's been closer to the interstice than most humans from the start due to his closeness to deathImagine thinking Guts would give a shit about this bullshit. Imagine not getting the character as much as you do. >And also realize that it is the key to, as Skull Knight once put it, to being half a step ahead of the God HandIt's not "a step ahead". It's barely a minuscule chance according to SK. And the reason for it was already there (him being branded and escaping the Eclipse). No point in making his birth special
>>288787635>You can judge the story based on some early scenes in a tavern when the story wasn't even fleshed outWeren't the bandits also working for a literal Apostle? I mean they're not really run off the mill thugs oblivious of magic shit.
The amount of cope here is ludicrous. It's obvious that Mori and the rest of the team have only a surface-level understanding of the story. No fucking way did Miura ever plan this 'chosen one' shonenslop', considering he spent 30+ years establishing the opposite. Guts is a walking metaphor for the resilience of mankind to endure against events beyond our control. Sure he's a master swordsman, but at the root of it all he's still human. He fucking says it himself. When Guts was branded, and survived the Eclipse, that did place him within the interstice, but it doesn't mean he exists outside fate or that he's some kind of parallel to Griffith of all people. They can ape the artwork to a degree, but these people just aren't talented enough to carry Miura's legacy. Just end this glorified doujin.
I look forward to more butthurt next week, this old one is starting to get stale
>>288785162>In my mind shes partially spanish or portugeeseWasn't Guts supposed to be a Portuguese?
>>288787841I mean it doesn't matter, the new Berserk you faggots try to peddle as canon isn't canon. It's just official fanfiction.
>>288787788>Imagine thinking Guts would give a shit about this bullshit. Imagine not getting the character as much as you do.Imagine not getting that the character has evolved greatly since his early edgy phase and now realizes the value of spiritual power through his interactions with Flora, Schierke, Farnese, the Elf Island residents and even Moon Boy, being very thankful when they pull him out of his berserk rage. It's obviously leading to him mastering the armor by being in control of his spirit without outside aid.You shouldn't have bothered reading past Conviction arc.>It's not "a step aheadHe literally says half a step anon...
Did they honestly have Guts acting like a fucking emo and blaming himself for everything? That if he'd never met the Falcons, this wouldn't have happened? Even though Guts is well aware that everyone and everything are pawns in the God Hand's metaphysical game?Fuck me these people are retards.
>>288787923Best explanation I can think is Guts believes he defies fate by making his own, but by doing so he still ended up in this entire situation. So we're seeing that sense of individuality work against him, it's kind of a similar breakdown Griffith had
>>288787860Agreed, and I'm not saying this ironically, but you can tell because there is NO loli fanservice and NO funny Puck moments>>288787830>end this glorified doujin.The guy who did those doujins of Shierke getting raped by demons should continue Berserk, although I wouldn't be surprised if he's on the team, he replicated Miura's style really wellhttps://exhentai.org/g/362840/cc64d41e70/https://exhentai.org/g/452615/4a31f2eb57/
>>288787880>the value of spiritual power That's not at all what's getting evolved in his character, lol>He literally says half a step anon...>Half a step towards the astral world = a step ahead of God HandThe state of your reading comprehension
>>288784852Griffith will sacrifice himself and bring all the apostle and godhand with him to hell, turning himself into the real falcon of the light. His sacrifice will be the basis of a new religion and an empire spanning the entire midland. Guts will retire with casca like what Griffith saw in his dream.
>>288785031>Casca is almost certainly kushan.Nigger, Donovan is literally a nigger and we never saw anyone touch on that. There are many characters that looks asian like Isidro, Gaston and pippin and we never saw anyone talked about them either. Also Azan is literally wearing a samurai armor in medieval armor(I hate it when the japanese did this shit).
>>288785031It won't ever be touched because Miura haven't thought about it that far when he crated her. Kushan didn't exist at that point and Griffith state that he got his behelith from a gypsy as at this point, the kingdom is supposed to be christian before Miura rolled back and make some fake religion instead. I think some chapter even mention crusade or ottoman or something before it got changed into kushan.
>>288787860So why are you here every single day to talk about it with us?
>>288786042I wonder if the entire world faces the same problem? Is the entire midland got subdued by mythical creatures or is there some isolated island kingdom that mirrors Britain holding up against the onslaught? Will Rickert eventually found a way to arm the rest of mankind with guns?
>>288788015>Half a step towards the astral world = a step ahead of God Handdid you mistake them as actual gods or something?
>>288788126Literally the first time I posted in one of these threads but keep seething.
I hope there will be more dialogue for now on. This one had quite a bit.
>>288784589I have no complaints about the conclusion of this chapter. The only thing I don't understand is what will change now that Guts knows he's an Astral Sensitive.It's not like he's suddenly going to gain powerful abilities, as those rertards claim.
I can't wait for Guts vs Griffith because I will see Griffith's reaction to Guts being able to hurt him out of nowhere.
>>288787245>>288787321A likely possibility is that given the existence of >>288786331, Miura's assistants simply forgot and that whole thing about him being that way since he was born was made up just now.Remember, he's dead. Everything going on now isn't word of god but a bunch of apostles trying to interpret god's will.
Does Guts have problems lifting the Dragonslayer now?
>>288787830>No fucking way did Miura ever plan this 'chosen one' shonenslop',Who choose him
>>288784671This is the first time I return to /a/ after nearly a decade.And now I understand why everyone calls this board tr/a/nime. Never returning again.
>>288790022>posts the ultimate tranny fucker>complains about tranimelmao
>>288785286I agree that Casca is probably supposed to be that same race and it doesn't really matter if they were introduced after her
>>288787830Excuse me sir, you seem to have posted the wrong image.
>>288790022>posts pedo who simps for gay super stalkers and pedo little nickyMy interests are better than his and yours.
>>288784650I read the last thread also and I have to say, it is laughable how the fanbase seems to be against this supposed realization of Guts not being bound to fate....when that's LITERALLY what the 1st scene of the entire Anime spells out to you, pic related. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ROiqwJZQIWhere does this new motion come from that Guts is supposedly "the chosen one"? Being considered dead is being close to the astral layer. Guts has always been the closest to death, thus since birth he has also been close to the Astral layer. Nothing of this is new information? I don't know why Morischizos hate so much on the guy, but this can be confirmed. Waiting for the Berserkscholars to put the pieces together, this was foreshadowed while Miura was still alive.I sometimes wonder about the average reader...
>>288785031>Casca is almost certainly kushan. Not sure if people have come to this consensus yet, but the chapter in not-england where we see the kushan children that were going to be sold into slavery by the pirate crew look exactly like casca hair texture and skin wise.I think the thing to consider about this is that we've seen Kushan being feared and hung on sight - but Casca was able to wander throughout Midland and even had a high ranking in a ministry band, without any criticism. It just hits weird. I don't think she's supposed to be Kushan
>The way I see it, this isn’t some kind of grand power-up.>Miura’s plan isn’t for Guts to reach God Hand tier and defeat Griffith, rather, it’s for Griffith to be stripped of his aura, weakened, and then defeated.>In other words, this is the first set up for Griffith’s downfall.Only truly skilled readers understand this context.
>>288790371Guts needs some time with Silat and Rickert because they've been chatting about how Rickert was able to hurt Griffith. I think it's a mentality thing.
>>288790388Yeah, it’s all about perception.To Falconian, who believe Griffith is a god, and to Guts, who has lost his confidence, he is a god.But if they look at him as a human, he’ll be dragged down to the level of a Apostle.
>>288790264>I sometimes wonder about the average reader...Honestly I think its just a meme at this point. The dude doesn't really believe in this "CHOSEN ONE!" bulshit. It has been pointed to him that this isn't even that trope, but he stills uses this term because its a buzzword or he lacks intelligence to properly define what makes him mad.Narutard most likely, they haven't recovered from gaara x rock lee since today and project it on others.
>>288791018>gaara x rock leeWhat?
>>288791018>since todayUntil*>>288791071Not important
>>288791071Long ago in a distant land Kishimoto, the theme-forgetting mangaka of hackery created a fight between a person with natural ability and one who worked hard in spite of lacking talent. Retards the world over came to believe that Rock Lee's insistince on overcoming his lack of innate ability through hard work DEFINED ALL OF MANGA and that therefore One Piece also was about the underdog Luffy working hard and training to overcome his superior enemies, even though this was never the case, Luffy curbstomped his enemies and had a superpower some of them didn't even believe could exist.Thus whenever you see people complain about le chosen one, it's because they're Narutards who were fans of Rock Lee and rooted for him during the chuunin exams. Do not concern yourself with these swine.
>>288788020KINO.
>>288791204Wait, this is the Berserk thread, not the One Piece thread. Well it all applies anyway, Narutards are Narutards regardless of which thread they invade.
>>288788020I hope this happens.
>>288791204Retards. It was still a great fight. I was able to see it when it first aired as a kid.
>>288785892>92KWAB
>>288784589>>288785749i've always thought this but it didn't need to be literally spelled out griffith was destined to get a kingdom, no matter how bad it got it would've happenedcasca was destined to be raped, no matter how good it got it had to happenguts was meant to die as a child. he didn't. he's the only one who can go against destiny and causality and he's always done it, literally from birth, through immense struggle and pain. it was obvious he could do it. flora herself said karma isn't a circle but a spiral. it would've had a culmination into destiny being broken by guts. it's also fucking dumb and wrong to call guts "interstitial" due to his birth. that's where he started to fight destiny, his interstitial nature is due to the brand. and ever since the merging of the astral world with the physical world, the brand that at first was pushing him towards the astral, was now pushing him towards the ideal world. guts was supposed to literally go into the ideal world and kill the idea of evil, breaking fate and freeing mankind. mori is such a useless hack, he's saying out loud what was widely known already because he doesn't know we know because he didn't even fucking read berserk
>>288791210Thought that Goku had a bald spot in the thumbnail
>>288792235Goku is baldIts a wigLunch found out and thats why she isnt there anymore
People don't give Black Swordsmen enough credit. It's a really good fucking arc, and gets better towards the end. You can see how it's somewhat unfocused and Miura is still developing his ideas (Guts is having sex with an apostle, which he would never actually do) and the art is rough, which is why it's discredited. But it's still a really fucking good introduction to Berserk. The way it develops the fat apostle and his daughter is insanely good. The reveal that he killed his own wife and the fact that it was revealed to his daughter was written perfectly. I don't think I could think of a better way that you could introduce the Godhand. Fuck, I wish Berserk ever got this edgy again.
how many chapters until Molda tits?
>>288793070She deserved it for being a demon worship cheating scum
>>288788006Wow, why doesn't this page get posted more often?
feels
>>288794022That codepiece must be made of titanium
>>288794022Will they ever be happy together?
so when are they finally going to fuck?
>>288794885I was legit disappointed when Qlipoth manifested in Kushan and /ourgirl/ didn't make an appearance
>>288784589the fact berserk threads are defending this garbage is the biggest proof fucking subhuman redditors (NIGGERS) are populating this site and there's barely any oldfags (most of them probably went to skullknight)fuck you NIGGERS and FAGGOTS
>>288795238it really is a crying shame that amidst all of the rape in berserk, none of it features slan.no one's wanted it longer and harder
>>288795372Fuck off back to sk then frenchieIf you were a real miurafag you would've stopped reading and paying attention in 2021
>>288790264Everything was bound fate until the fucking eclipse you retard. You simply read too much bleach or one piece and overlaped your shitbrain into berserk.
>>288793070>Guts is having sex with an apostle, which he would never actually doI wonder if that part is still canon, too bad Miura died as I wanted someone who can speak japanese to ask him about it back in 2019.
>>288796520I don't think it's that unthinkable that Guts at that time would have sex in order to lure in an apostle. He was pretty unhinged by that point.
>>288789151>The only thing I don't understand is what will change now that Guts knows he's an Astral Sensitive.Nothing, he will simply walks out of his stupor and goes berserking again, this time harder because he knows what he did right now is his own choice and not just fate fucking him over. Maybe he will learn about Griffith current real name and use it to his advantage, I mean he has heard it, but he doesn't know any magician to explain to him how much power a name has over demons and magical crature. It's clear deadnaming Griffith is the reason why guts hasn't been able to hurt him for 3 years straight.
>>288787860>I mean it doesn't matterIf it didn't matter, you wouldn't even be here.
>>288784589This series was never what it was hyped up to be. Way too much moe, wishy washy drama and intellectualism for a supposedly hardcore edgy manly manga. What a waste. Miura knew he wasted his life on it which is why he died out of pure regret.
>>288787988rare reasonable take on this thread, thank you. i agree desu, i think the parallels with the moonlight child from early on and how they were both born from "death", be it a more physical death like of gut's mother or a more astral death like with casca during the eclipse, makes for a really interesting introspective moment from guts. the dialogue is somehow both barebones and mildly heavy handed which is expected given no miura but it conveys the message sufficiently okay and the art is great at least. although i did really like the dialogue from last chapter, so i hope they continue the trend. i hope the next 2 chapters mori and co. have queued up continue integrating/tying together the themes and story beats. i really don't understand how some smoothbrains are genuinely interpreting this as guts = chosen one, or "his half astral self just rejoined him now" when it's clearly fucking metaphorical of him finally getting insight about his life, or this being a power-up when there's zero indication of that. it's the literal opposite, he was so unwanted/unchosen and simply untethered that he's pure random chance, if not a rounding error in the universe, amidst the intertwining destinies and threads of fate binding everyone else in the world via (mostly) godhand shenanigans, which accordingly lets him have some sway in altering events because he just wasn't part of the original code to begin with. even then, all the struggling and surviving has technically been terrible for him, he's just continued to suffer and persevere lmfao. but sure, muh chosen one slop, somehow lmao.>>288787761>>288790264you've been making sense anons, good reads. rereading those early SK panels def shows how much miura had laid the groundwork for but was hesitant/cautious about the timing of when to start divulging the finer details, like with that voided griffith chapter.
>>288793485Classic
>>288795372>>288787830you are cognitively obese. please go back to red*it or SK forums.
For me? It's Isma
>pajeet sperging about chosen one outside of fate>when Sloan says there is no such thing as fate and no one is bound to do what the idea of evil shows the god hand>when both Sk and Zodd tell Guts he can just fuck off and not suffer the eclipseRead the manga before shitposting. Guts wasn't meant to do shit, still isn't. He wasnt born special, he just made hkmself a chad just like the gymbro did instead of sperging about a Sirilankan comic in a north korean pixel sharing web community
>>288797579Isidro...
>>288797447Reddit likes Morislop and you know it you larping nigger
See everyone next week!
>>288796754If it did matter, you wouldn't be trying so hard to defend it.
>>288790363That's true but silat was somehow entered into the tournament in chapter 41 without much trouble, the kushan being executed thing is I think tower of conviction where he was thinking about ethnic conflict and refugee crises with the conflicts in the balkans at the time.
>>288794022Does Guts ever end up with her?
>>288785214So you don't know?
>>288785825She looks uglier than later on this page, true. But I think that this brightened up shit used to brighten this age up made it look even worse.
>>288797447Pleddit loves Mori.SKfags love Miura.
>>288795372>implying that all oldfags are SkullKnight retardsBold.
>>288793453Beautiful tits.
>>288784589Are people really butthurt that they elaborated on his canonical birth? Literally born from a corpse, complete luck and struggle that he lived long enough to be rescued. Same way the entire story has been and all this does is add logic behind why he's able to hate and rage himself into being able to do damage to ethereal beings. He's still a struggler without superpowers, his only fucking power is being able to do greater than 0 damage to monsters. Skull Knight's more busted at this point.
>>288788020Cinema (Kino).
>>288800618Berserk fans have always been like this.
>>288795238it could be that all miura told mori in the past is that some of those events happened and some details but maybe just didnt mention slan being present? it seems odd to me that they would mention qlipoth yet not have slan present?>moris a hackyes yes we all get it.
