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Chapter 177: A Wonderful Fighter

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ok that's kinda creative
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Chapter 178: Feeding Time
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FUCK THE NIKO STYLE
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Does hyping up your own finishing move act as a hex multipier or is it just a flat bonus?
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Oh wow, even stronger than the group that went 1-5, the 1 being a sacrifice for style? I'm spooked!
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I HATE THE NIKO STYLE
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>>288864162
>8 have died in the process
>not any of our named characters of course but trust me this is serious business
>removal percentage really matters guys
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>>288863926
Something about this really ticks me off but I can't put it into words, it feels too video gamey or something. Like the Niko style is a straight up magic that his body has to get used to rather than a technique that he uses his body to use if that makes sense.
Oh wait I do have the words I HATE THE NIKO STYLE I HATE THE NIKO STYLE I HATE THE NIKO STYLE
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KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Chapter 179: Adam Vs. Ryuki
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>>288863974
ugh
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>>288864249
koga isn't particularly known for his grip strength
both akoya and rihito did something similar but they had physical attributes that made it possible
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>>288864335
>menacing
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>>288864360
hahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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>>288864263
SLAP THE SHIT OUT OF HIM ADAM
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>>288864288
I believe that background is one he openly admitted to using AI on too.
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>>288864360
That sure is a plot
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>>288864288
How do you become an ex-Kamikaze pilot?
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>>288864395
>Adam V Ryuki
>Takes 11 pages to start
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>>288864437
>Did he see that coming?
YOU NEVER OPEN WITH ANOTHER MOVE
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>>288864429
Of course! All according to premonition.
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DONE
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>>288864437
Are you a fucking moron Ryuki?
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>>288863935
>>288863926
Ohma did this in Asura, it had a name. Sandro forgot.
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>>288864255
Calm down Cosmo
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>>288864449
not in a gay way right?
Right?
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>>288864437
Ryuki's mix up game is really shit for a guy with naturally good speed and a bag of surprise attacks.
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>>288863961
How do you harden the finger tips
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Ryuki mains are the most oppressed class
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It took awhile for these guys to actually start gettin into it
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>>288864437
>did he see that coming?
We all did, you stupid fuck
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>>288864449
>GAOH RYUKI, I'LL RAPE YOU FOR THAT
a little too on the nose, adam...
>>288864386
makes sense, this is a 2023~ chapter right? that bg is incomprehensible shit so it suits that early AI experimental phase
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>>288864047
Koga has finally "arrived"
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>>288864324
>>288864312
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>>288864288
This scene makes no sense, Sandro just wanted them to look cool. Why are they both there, why is the building burning, why are they fighting the worm, why is the connector there, why doesnt the connector kill them, how did they won, what did they won.
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>>288864335
>You win in this premonition
Rolon is truly unfathomable.
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>>288863988
Causing your opponent to fumble due to hatred of the Niko Style is yet another technique of the Niko Style.
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>>288864360
This is just spoonfeeding.
>>288864366
I wish I had a friend like Jackie.
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>>288864380
>>288864366
THE FINAL BOSS

THE HEAD OF THE WORM

THE MORTAL ENEMY OF THE KENGAN ASSOCIATION

THE LEADER OF THE WU CLAN

THE ONE BEHIND IT ALL

TRULY, UNMISTAKABLE EVIL
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>>288864429
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
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>>288864437
JESUS

FUCKING

CHRIST
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>>288864437
>did he see that coming
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>>288864429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyBEvMXVfL0
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>>288863946
Lmao Ohma looks so happy, this would be great like fifty chapters ago
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>>288864162
>please read my walls of texts that i will forget i ever wrote
no sandro, i wont.
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>>288864481
Koga didn't get the memo
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>>288863883
You cannot possibly read this page without expecting a HOWEVER.

>>288863926
HOWEVER
I guess it makes sense, but has this guy only fought jobbers so far or something? Doing this is pretty obvious when you're in a hold.

>>288863961
Yeah the Niko style really is just magic or some RPG skill when you need to learn to flex your fist and fingers differently.

>>288863974
I just threw up a little.

>>288864070
I just threw up even more.
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>>288864749
I was referring I am pretty sure Ohma used it against Cosmo
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>>288864366
Jeez Yoshitake is aging like shit.
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>>288864162
This doesn't come back up and I doubt it ever will since Sandor only ever wants to use Raian
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>>288864173
El conector...
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>>288864776
Man has aged 20 years in 2, what happened?
Is this an advanced form of twink death?
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>>288864115
wait until kokuro finds out he also gets training from agito
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>>288864449
I WAS RAPED
I'LL USE EARTH CROUCHING DRAGON BEFORE I'LL EVER SAY THOSE WORDS
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>>288864162
They have to add interim to make it clear that Hollis is just keeping the seat warm for Raian
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>>288864410
If I remember correctly there was one story about a Kamikaze pilot that flew like 20 plus missions and came back on them all. Shit got so bad his commanding officer came out on the flight deck and put a bullet in his head. I think someone's translating the manga about him though I have a feeling the manga omits the last part
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>>288864106
>>288864115
I can't believe this dastardly bastard Koga hid the technique of "asking other fighters to teach him" from his friends.

>>288864162
Does it even matter when we will never see these guys.

>>288864335
So uh, why did he not kill them?

>>288864429
>>288864437
How could he have POSSIBLY known about earth-crouching dragon, the move he keeps spamming and that everoyne knows about?
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>>288864272
Haha time to consume nutrients
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>>288864437
Yes Ryuki, he saw that coming. Everyone see's it coming, it's the first thing you do in every fight is try to cheese a win with EARTH CROUCHING DRAGON
The Gaoh style is suppose to suck but the real failing here is that Ryuki is a shit fighter who thinks he's too good for some reason
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Ryuki feels like he has lost 2 iq deviations since the manga started. Compare how he fought against Kokuro vs the shit he's doing now.
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>>288864207
>>288864225
Wait what's the issue with his real name? It's not like anybody knows anything about Shen Wulong or there being any flags to that name.
Unless he introduces himself as 'Mr. Connector' but even then it's not like Kazzy would know anything about that.
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>>288864992
He went currazy
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>>288864115
Check em dubs.
I hate the niko style
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>>288865003
He is a legend.
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Niko Style: Mass Reply
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>>288864872
Xia ryona has done irreparable damage to the anon psyche.
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>>288865132
I am a master of the Niko Style: Samefag technique. You might think you're talking to "multiple people", but you're actually just talking to different "me"s
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you guys keep talking about
>I HATE NIKO STYLE
and I'm starting to think there's an actual character who will seethe about it rather than you guys just hating it. If it's Waktsuki I'm going to laugh my ass off. The man got humbled by 3 different niko users
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>>288863883
flawless purgatory victory for koga
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>>288864449
>I'll have to improvise
Does ryuki unironically only know one move?
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>>288864409
THE DEMPSEY ROLL
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>>288864162
Really casual throwaway line for a lore bomb like this like wtf?
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>>288864144
Probably the best Gilbert ever looked before he eddiemaxx
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>>288863974
>Koga can now just straight up crush the bones of other seasoned martial artists with his grip strength alone

Is it just me or is that a crazy strength feat?
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>>288864992
Let's cut Ryuki some slack.
He was forced to kill a man and currently has the relationship with someone akin to a grown woman dating her crushes younger brother as a substitute
He's also retarded
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>>288865681
now that i think about it gaoh style is just dragon style thats been hyper optimized for killing so he unironically might just know like 10 different variations of the same move
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>>288864409
How is Jerry talking his mouth isn't open.
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>>288864992
One thing that sucks about Sandro's declining writing quality is that his retarded writing affects the intelligence of characters.
So Sandro basically can't be bothered to give a shit about Ryuki. This translates to him always having Ryuki spam Earth Crouching Dragon all the time. The thing is that this isn't Ryuki's character flaw. It's Sandro not giving enough of a fuck to rememeber that he's had Ryuki do this way too often.

It's a similar situation with Kazzy and other characters who have gotten more retarded in Omega. It's not that they're more retarded. It's the writer just rushing through slapping together his weekly manucripts and only caring about filling space, which translates to Kazzy making retarded comments all the time.
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Hassad soon.
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>>288865681
The Gaoh style is just a rework of some chinese peasant surprise attacks mixed in with actual Martial Arts techniques. He'd have a scrub moveset but he shouldn't be fighting like an idiot
Why Mukaku didn't teach him Possessing Spirit is another thing entirely since that's not a Niko exclusive technique and I doubt Ryuki would overwhelm him with it
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>>288865800
>akin to...
What do mean "akin to"?
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The Koga fight is actually decent if you ignore everything that sucks.
Maybe this manga is affecting my brain
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>>288864144
Man I loved Gil way better when he was Genos 2.0
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>>288864449
I don't think Adam is beating the gay allegations, guys
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>>288864429
>>288864437
>>288864690
>"Mods, cook this nigga out of the chat. This stupid ass pussy spamming Earth Crouching Dragon again and again."
>"Awwww you see this crispy ass nigga t bagging too awwwww OH WAIT LOOK Earth Crouching Dragon! Earth Crouching Dragon! Yep your going to evo. Good job."
>"Stalking another man on stream just to use Earth Crouching Dragon with Ryuki, literal homosexual ass character on Kengan Omega."
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>>288863926
>>288863935
How would he even be able to use this when he's already been getting choked for a decent amount of time?
Shouldn't his brain have been shutting down already?
Also, and obligatory...
I HATE THE NIKO STYLE!
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>>288865816
He isn't, there's no "arrow". Its Sayaka talking.
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>>288864028
>>288864019
>>288864003
>>288863988
>Koga goes from nearly having been choked into unconsciousness into being able to throw 4 strikes without Leonardo being able to do anything to counter them
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>288864144
Willem is pretty twinkish for a guy with superman syndrome
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>>288864755
The special Niko muscle flexing is special.
The only others that we've seen potentially do something similar are just built differently. Like Akoya.
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>>288864575
Its just a cheap way to approximate what Kuroki and Muteba do.
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>>288863974
Unlike some other guys who just steal techniques.
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>>288864437
I need that one lisa and bart pic with bart thinking "good old rock, nothing beats that", with him edited out for Ryuki using this fucking move.
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>>288866137
Both Gilbert and Willem change build all the time.
Sometimes they're built like brick shithouses, sometimes they're thinner than average.
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>>288865003
Shen Wulong is actually a mythological figure in this setting.
Its like hearing a guy call himself Pecos Bill.
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>>288864128
>Metsudo is the head of the table
Why did we even have the Kengan Ashura tournament?
I know it's a circle but even if you look at the positions it looks like Nogi and Toyoda work for him.
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>>288864410
Check one of the Kengan Zero chapters.
Metsudo exploded his plane but somehow survived unharmed and that convinced him he could take over Japan.
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>>288864634
Metsudo worked with multiple yakuza gangs when he was young, we've seen that.
Just assume this was some turf war between the Worm and the Yakuza that he happened to be a part of.
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>>288866232
Who would they even get to replace Nogi anyway? I'm figuring they're just gonna put a figure head in his place so Metsudo can go back to running things and clear up Nogi's fuckups so they can hold a "real" KAT later
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>>288864162
>more people with 100%
This really feels like super saiyan bargain sale.
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>>288864409
He's learned formless!
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>>288865681
Earlier in the manga Ryuki had a thing where he said he couldn't use too many moves in public because his Grandpa would get mad.
So unironically yeah. He's basically limiting himself to just ECD, Armorclad, and Air Rending with few exceptions. Learning two moves from Setsuna actually doubled his available repertoire.
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>>288864249
I dunno I kinda like it, exploiting a problem he has with his use of the technique
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Who's worse, WHOga or Everyone Loves Koga?
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>>288866095
I could see it if it's just super flexing a muscle. I imagine it's similar to getting a cramp, but at will (and more powerful because niko style)
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>>288864070
>no wonder the martial arts prodigy with superman syndrome lost to this guy
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>>288863974
But could he have ripped a chunk out of a deck of cards.
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>>288864115
Koga feels like a xianxia antagonist
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>>288864324
>>288864335
Reminds me of Shin and Noi encountering the cross eyes boss in Dorohedoro except lamer.
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>>288866495
The main problem with Everyone Loves Koga is simply that all his relationship is built offscreen.
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>>288864776
The stress of being a businessman
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>>288864429
YOU FUCKING
>>288864437
MORON!
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>>288864449
Thanks op.
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>>288865681
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Actually, now that I think about it, it's funny how Koga went from MC to side character to feeling like someone's fanfic OC (special power + friends with everybody).
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>>288866773
You can have a good story of someone being friends with everyone, but that's a process that requires a lot of time and conflict along the way. You can't just offscreen all that development and drama and go straight to the end results.
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>>288864429
Good old reliable
>>288864437
ACK
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>>288864263
This is among my favorite panels
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>>288864115
Koga's pals are appalled at him learning the Niko Style.
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>>288864634
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>>288863842
>less than 170 posts after 4 hours
Holy fuck, this has got to be the deadest this daily has ever been.
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>>288867499
We haven't reached peak tired yet
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>>288864162
>Removal 100% = IT MATTERS
>Superman Syndrome 2x "the average" = IT MATTERS
>Superman Syndrome 52x "the average" = it's just Wakatsuki, who cares? I'll say "it matters" but whatever.
Kure clan has already killed off eight of some of their most powerful fighters by letting them try 100% Removal. Idiots.
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>>288867518
After KvP it usually takes me several hours to remember the daily even exists and I should check it.
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>>288864634
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>>288864162
100% removal isn't even that good due to the mess that was KvP.
>base Raian shrugs off Guihun Alan
>base Edward shits on two Removal users
So Sandro put himself in this trap where Kures need 100% removal to be relevant but at the same time the form doesn't really matter and has never turned a fight around.
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>>288864263
>Aren't you going to compliment me? Talk about how we'll still be friends after this? What's your fucking problem Ryuki?
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>>288864437
>Did he see that coming?
HE JUST GOT LUCKY
>>288864449
>I'll need to improvise
NONONO DUMBASS JUST KEEP SPAMMING BLINK AND EARTH CROUCHING DRAGON YOU'LL GET HIM EVENTUALLY
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>>288863961
>Involves hardening the fist to increase striking power
How is this not just regular forming a fist?
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>>288867846
>and has never turned a fight around
Not true, it typically results in someone immediately jobbing upon use.
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>>288867953
It makes your fist harder. Don't ask how. It just does.
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>>288864144
>They've become an even more more dangerous group than they ever were under Edward
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I don't even remember what precisely inspired this thought but: for a series that just had a 2 year timeskip there sure is a lot of stuff that for some reason is only coming up now even though the characters had 2 years to talk about it. It feels like the gap exists solely as hammerspace to pull convenient "Koga trained for this" pages from while nearly everyone else may as well have spent that time hibernating.
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>>288864115
It's just that easy to teach new moves?
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>>288864144
>The Westward faction is being led by one Gilbert Wu
It'd be unfortunate if there were two Wu.
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>>288867505
>he's not even posting the picture itself anymore
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>>288866535
have you not realized Koga is the greatest martial arts prodigy of the century
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>>288868284
I'm "reaching" higher "heights"
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>Agito wanted to help Ryuki
>somehow switched to teaching Koga along the way
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>>288864144
>Gilbert Wu
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>>288864380
>>288864366
The CEO's and Shen hanging out and drinking is easily the most entertaining part of this whole arc.
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>>288868367
Gilbert Who
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>>288864650
Niko Style: Seethe
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>>288864741
Lazy bones
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>>288864225
Middle panel Wulong looks dead inside
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>>288864449
I am not afraid of a person who knows 10000 niko styles. But I am afraid of a person who knows one Earth Crouching Dragon but practices it for 10000 times.
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>>288868484
that's the ojii-san in him
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>>288864263
Where are your manners ryuki?
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>>288864335
ITS CALLED AURA BRO
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>>288864429
ol reliable
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>>288864906
>So uh, why did he not kill them?
They won, "in this time"
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>>288864070
I should be happy and rooting for Koga since he's come so far since chapter 1
...but I don't feel anything. I feel angry, if anything.
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>>288864437
What everyone missed here is that it's not the Earth-crouching Dragon Adam saw coming.
It's Blink into Earth-crouching Dragon.
But that doesn't work because Blink and Cosmo's Zone are pretty similar, and Adam knows all about Cosmo's Zones.
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>>288864409
>The One-Inch Boy in the Cherry Forest
I'm trying to guess the plot of this. Something like... I dunno, a young male fairy trying to pluck his first cherry from a tree (as every other fairy in his village is capable of doing) but struggling because his wings are smaller than everyone else's. A very unsubtle euphemism for someone struggling to lose their virginity and feeling alienated, probably the harshest criticism for it in-universe by reviewers. Assuredly pureple-prose'd to the max but has a small, fujo following because of the unsubtle "wing size = dick size" aspect and Toku2 can't fucking stop having the MC stressing over literally any other male fairy's wings.
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>>288868754
it's an Isshun-Boshi reference
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>>288868754
>Isshun-Boshi
Oh, that's actually pretty endearing.
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>>288868168
We need 2 years so Koga can be vaguely R1 tier
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>>288864263
>HPPPPPPP
Kiryu ripping a giant fart
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>>288865381
I think what happened was we started having I HATE THE NIKO STYLE posters somewhere around Fei, and Waka just became the poster child of that because his only real Ls are against Nikkers.
There's a funny payoff to this though
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>>288868284
The evolution of a meme.
I welcome the folded version over the 9999x9999 one for one.
We must reach more abstract heights though.
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>>288864115
Kog's friends are so jelly of our golden boy.
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>>288864246
I want him to win.
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>>288864335
Why is he naked?
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>>288864360
When I saved this image from the Karakuri Circus Storytime I had only a basic understanding, but now I think I've finally "scaled" the "wall".
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I used to only be able to catch these threads after the bump limit.
Now they aren't even halfway to the bump limit by the time I get here.
Have I scaled the wall?
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>>288863974
>niko style just gives you infinite grip
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>>288864162
>NEVER mentioned or alluded to ever again
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>>288864872
it would explain why ohma suddenly is so kind and protective towards koga at least
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>>288866054
Kek
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>>288864429
>mixing an op as fuck technique like blink with the jobber special
at this point ryuki might as well just start poisoning his opponents beforehand then wait until they collapse mid match to do earth crouching dragon on their limp bodies, maybe then it'll start working
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>>288864360
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>288869321
I think so "me", unfortunately about half of the other "me's" were not in "perfect sync" so they picked up knives and "fell" right over the other "side". So close to "climbing" the "tower", but oh so "far".
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>>288867505
Whats the 2nd image saying?
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I can't read a random thread without going crazy anymore.
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>>288864272
I read it as breeding time
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>>288868888
Honestly Berserker Bowl and KvP needed to switch spots in the story. This tournament feels like it should be the first major arc of the story and the start of Koga's journey as a fighter. The quality of the fighters is a lot lower and looks more like a beginning arc. The entire worm plot has just come screeching to a halt for these fights so it's not like they couldn't have done all of this first before they got the ball rolling with that plotline. Some small adjustments would have been necessary but these fights would be so much cooler if we didn't just watch 16+ other fighters in action who all would have won this tournament in the previous arc.
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>>288864162
>Hollis and Reiichi learning 100% removal
do they want to die that badly?
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>Forgot about the latest Omega
>Have been late to the story time more times than not recently
Am I losing my edge?
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>>288870455
You just need to get the "timing" right, "me".
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>>288870455
These days the site itself is so dead I only go to a particular board if I have an actual reason. A storytime will make me do it, but people clearly weren’t kidding when they said this is a low point.
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>>288864449
>he's not falling for my 30f precanned mixup
>i'll need to use...that
>starts tick throwing
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Have we gotten it all wrong?
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>>288864128
>>288864173
>>288864190
Im sorry but…is Nogi not the chairman lmfao? Why is Metsudo still in the directors chair?
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>>288870912
The KAT was all a big prank.
Nothing actually changed they just wanted an excuse for the strongest guys to fight.
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>>288870912
The real answer is the status quo.
Chapter 50 reverted all of that, not literally, but in spirit.
Ohma is back. Kazzy is a retard. Metsudo is the keikaku master.
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>>288864003
instant loss 2koma
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>>288870912
No one's fooling themselves, Metsudo lost his position but still holds a position where he's basically telling Nogi what to do
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>>288864047
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>>288864070
Am I supposed to be cheering?
This feels like watching a wizard bully an actual martial artist.
The martial artist does everything right in terms of fighting a human, but the wizard breaks conventional logic and wins.
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>>288870912
Nogi is the public-facing chairman.
Metsudo is the one who's actually in charge.
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>>288864872
Would you guys accept Ohma's "special training"?
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>>288863974
based Koga unlocking never goon mode
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>>288864324
>>288864335
>>288864344
>he showed up, immediately conceded his defeat, and surrendered
>is remembered as an unfathomably powerful demon despite not doing anything
It would be really funny if he turned out to be like King from OPM.
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>>288864351
Are they fucking stupid?
In this whole conversation, were they operating under the assumption that the guy called the Connector and the connector in Huisheng both being called connectors was a coincidence?
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>>288869230
I was "green" when I made this image.
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>>288864366
>>288864380
I honestly don't hate the idea of Shen being a goofy goober, but I'd only be okay with it if I could believe that he was actually dangerous (which I really can't).
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>>288864429
>>288864437
>Poor, predictable Ryuki. Always uses earth-crouching dragon.
>Good ol' earth-crouching dragon! Nothing beats that!
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>>288871383
He is the shadow chancellor
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>>288864366
This is the point where Sandro reverted to a little girl playing sitting her dolls next to each other and pretending they're having tea time.
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>>288871672
Don't you remember when his sheer aura made Xia Ji imagine death by a million knives?
Or when he made THE Metsudo and Fang of Metsudo, Kure Erioh, in their prime, shit themselves?
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>>288871977
Their powerlevel is too low to comprehend Shen's aura.
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>>288870912
The bizzare decision to make Metsudo a whole chungus instead of the overarching villain in Asura has had far-reaching consequences. Because of that, there can't be any substantial things for Nogi to do with the chairman position, and Metsudo just hangs around like a bad smell for the entire rest of the manga.
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>>288863869
Honeycomb leg bruise
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>>288863974
>Imagine the forearm bone as a 500 yen coin
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>>288868284
>...
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>>288868284
Just as Musashi learned to cut without a sword
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>>288870912
>>288872169
Sandro constantly wants his cake and to eat it too. He wanted Nogi to be a reformist who would make big positive changes to the association, like making it less disregarding of fighters' lives. Cool.
The problem comes when Sandro realizes he loves Metsudo too much to make him the face of the old regime that needs to be changed, even though... he has to be? He had pretty much uncontested power in the association, a far tighter grip than Nogi does.
So Metsudo just becomes chungus grandpa advisor sticking around, and he's actually completely supportive of all this stuff! So why did HE never try to do any of this, if it's a good thing and Metsudo is also a Good Guy...? Why did he not want to improve fighters' safety when he himself was close friends with his first fighter? UHHH LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE
The exact same thing happened to Shen. He and Metsudo are the same thing. A neutered, malice-free "final boss" to be fought, but whitewashed from being an actual moral opponent. Just like Metsudo and the former stuff, Shen is mysteriously not responsible at all for the atrocities committed by his slaves according to the narrative, despite the character himself outright saying he knows about Tiger Niko's orphan crushing machine and actively desires it to continue.
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>>288872169
Lemmy being retconned into having been invited by Metsudo really soured the ending of Ashura for me. The whole KAT was reduced to a mere distraction. That old faggot may be the second biggest author's pet, and it's fucking weird how much a non-fighting character could get wanked so much in a fighting manga.
A staple of martial arts manga is specifically to dismiss political and economic status as nothing more than a replacement for sheer physical martial power, like in pic related. Meanwhile Sandrobitch can't stop drooling over his precious old banker.
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>>288872890
Much as I love Ashura to death, it hangs a few millstones around Omega's neck. Maybe Ieyasu could be a problem that Metsudo ignored because he wanted an "opponent" and Nogi initiates KvP to get him to finally join Kengan instead of to pointlessly merge the fight clubs. idk just an idea. But really, he should have just been like picrel for the whole manga and actually been the psycho cult-leader that he's kind of set up as early on.
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>>288872971
This pic seems like it came from another story these days. The CEOs don't even matter anymore, they just set up fights for the fun of it or something.
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>>288870479
Berserker Bowl is just shit. Even decent fights like Saw v Cosmo don't hit the same emotional highs they could have because they just don't have any sort of character build-up the way the best Asura or pre-Ch50 Omega fights did. There's no personal character setup of Saw or Cosmo they had before the fight that was paid off by the end of the fight.
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>>288873012
>decent fights like Saw v Cosmo
By post-ch50 Omega standards maybe.
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>>288873032
It's a fun R1 that sets Saw up as a real threat for I have no fucking memory of who fights him to beat, after he kinda jobs in KAT.
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>>288872839
When it comes to Metsudo, I feel Sandro is really attached to him because he himself fantasizes about the idea of being a keikaku doori type of super successful wise man who everyone fears and respects.
We all know Sandro is always trying to outsmart his readers. He fancies himself as a Metsudo who is always one step ahead of everyone else.

As for Shen? Beats me why he gave Shen the same wholesome chungus+Gary Stu treatment. It baffles me just as much as seeing him give THAT BASTARD LUOHAN the worst treatment of any character in this manga.
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>>288865306
why does ryona turn you gay
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>>288870479
>>288873012
I think you guys are a bit too harsh, looked in isolation the BB actually has pretty solid fights and one of the ones upcoming is excellent, the issue is the story has taken such a brutal beating on the way that it doesn't impress as much as it should.
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>>288863974
niko style: deathgrip
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>>288866661
kek
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>>288864080
>koga cut his nose off
what the fuck
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>>288864380
Honestly Sandro is better at SOL than this plot thing
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>>288867518
Soon we won't even need new threads for the next dumps
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BB is pretty good.
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>>288873230
Niko style earth kata + Kure style family tradition: Ha I've got your nose!
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>>288873209
I'm not seeing it.
>Tournament arc where several chapters are talking about how dozens of skilled fights were totally awesome wish you could have been there
>Two fights so far are obvious sacrifices, both Mark and Leonardo are non-characters who fold the second the protags show their gimmick
>Koga cements himself as Ohma but weaker and without plot baggage
>Attempts at building back the plot up are ridiculously tone deaf considering the entire group of previous antagonists got slaughtered without doing a single thing
There's only Saw Paing vs Cosmo which is a "decent" fight but it's not that interesting either and if Ryuki's plotline is half as retarded as I remember that's at least 3 stinkers out of 7
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>>288872839
>So Metsudo just becomes chungus grandpa advisor sticking around, and he's actually completely supportive of all this stuff!
This is something you can explain away by saying that he wanted to stop being on the top, and now that Nogi is on the head, he'll support his decisions even if they're not something he cares about.
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>>288873076
My guess is that Sandro got attached to his platonic ideal of a martial artist and didn't want to give Shen the humiliation ritual that he has to give all his bad guys, so the only solution was to turn him into a quasi-Kenganvenger.
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>>288873386
Don't forget that the pools section was completely pointless since 95% of it was skipped.
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>>288873287
Writing a good plot requires writing with a sense of structure and with planning. Sandro does neither of those. He improvises weekly.
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>>288873608
Does Sandro not understand that writing an antagonist DOES NOT mean that he has to put them through a humiliation ritual?
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>>288871977
I hate that that's very much telling without showing in a narrative sense.
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>>288872890
>Lemmy being retconned into having been invited by Metsudo really soured the ending of Ashura for me.
It feels even more icky when you consider that Sandro uses Metsudo's constant keikaku doori as a way of indirectly congratulating himself as a brilliant writer.
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>>288863842

I don't remember these chapters at all, I think I genuinely missed like 5 of them or something somehow.
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>>288864344
This is a retcon btw. Erioh desired to get stronger after someone beat him for the first time in Kengan match. If he already knew there's someone else far stronger than him he should've started training far sooner
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>>288871977
That's just people imagining him being dangerous.
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>>288874044
Remember when every theorizing that this is Gaoh?
LOL
LMAO
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>>288873209
If the Berserker Bowl took place before Purgatory, then yeah it'd be pretty cool. But it didn't. And by now the writing is so rancid and the art so phoned in I don't see why I should care about it at all
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>>288873287
>drawing cardboard cutouts drinking beer next to each other is good SoL
To you maybe.
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>>288873868
Which would be wild, because it only draws attention to the enormous retcons.
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What if Falcon learned principles
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What if Falcon trained under Motobe and used a submachinegun against Miyamoto Mushashi. Would he have won?
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>>288874288
Is her arm okay?
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>>288874617
That's just how girl arms are
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>>288874617
That's just how arms dealers are
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>>288866118
Niko Style Oxigen Kata.
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>>288871276
I think you just sumarized most anime fights in history, the rival does everything right and the hero pulls the victory out of his ass.
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>>288866227
I don't think most modern people know who Pecos Bill is.
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>>288874774
>Sounds like a skill issue to me, m8
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>>288864312
That is the shittiest just slapped on worm tattoo
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>>288864225
That is the fakest name I've ever heard.
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>>288864272
Akchually! This metaphor is wrong because the catterpillar doesn't eat while in the crysalis..
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>>288863869
>Charger!
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>>288875369
How does he survive then
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>>288876237
>How do you survive sleeping
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>>288874729
Dealer of heavy weaponry hit with "small arms" charges
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>>288876237
He already ate a bunch when it was a catterpillar, then it fall into a coma and becomes a butterly inside the crysalis.
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>>288864304
Spoilers: this was in fact not the last they saw of the worm.
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>>288864335
Sephiroth!
Sephiroth!
Sephiroth!
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>>288864003
I feel bad for Leonardo. But at least he got to fight onscreen, maybe I should feel bad for other supernovas instead
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>>288864351
Why is this forbidden again?
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>>288876841
its like mind control bro, kind of taboo
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>>288876841
uh
Immortality bad
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>>288863842
>Chapter 177: A Wonderful Fighter (pic unrelated)
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>>288876841
Because then you end up with people like Gilbert.
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>>288876841
Because it's retarded
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>>288864144
Why did Sandro move away from the Zoombert Wu look and persona when it's specifically stated that he lost to Julius because he's still immature? Wouldn't that have helped showcase his immaturity?
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>>288877348
I believe he might not be a very good writer.
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>>288877348
Don't make me open the folder
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>>288877348
>smugfrenchdudelookingatthereaderwithdisdainandcontempt.jpg
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>>288877348
It's a real mystery
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>>288877807
So you're saying it's something that's....uhhhh...open to interpretation?
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>>288864246
FUCK!
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>>288877348
I think this is the one time I have to play on Sandwich's side. Gilbert instantly ditching his old looks in favour of larping as Eddie the moment he gains a modicum amount of recognition shows how he's just a dumb kid full of hot air
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>>288877348
I'll leave it up to...
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>>288877348
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>>288871594
If that's true then from where did the tongue come from? How could you have obtained it? Is Lu Tian's tongue just hanging around /a/ or even 4chan itself, waiting to be picked up?!
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>>288878625
It's just a generic centipede stamp that comes for free with most programs
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>>288877768
>At a high enough level...
>The jpg is no longer necessary to reactionpic..
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>>288878712
kek
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>>288878702
That centipede is exactly the one used in Omega, there is no way Daro used a generic centipede you can find anywhere!
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>>288871672
The anon who was posting about Shen actually killing Xia Ji after a casual conversation was right. Shen's character would be way better if he could snap at any moment. Conceptually I think it's interesting that the final boss of the series is chilled out, but he needs to have some scare factor to him when he's around. If he randomly flipped out or killed someone in casual mode out of nowhere just once it would add some much needed tension to all of his scenes.
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>>288879018
He punched a dastardly bastard once because of his 4th wall meta knowledge. That's pretty dangerous.
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>>288864575
you need a girl to train that technique
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>>288879018
Shen casually killing people while doing his silly connector hobbies would aactually be a good way to show how little regard he has for life itself.
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>>288879314
Technically, that would've been the Tiger persona but even then it mellows out quick.
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>>288874044
It didn't say Erioh was scared for the first time in the Shen page though.
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>>288879314
Never happening unless his point of view gets all over the place. Read his lines here:
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>>288879489
You can't really wash your hands when you're actively doing nothing to stop these people when you obviously can. Imagine being friends with the local serial baby eater but you don't do anything about it because it's not your problem.
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>>288879489
This is like if Yujiro was friends with the 5 Deadliest Convicts while they raped and killed people.

To be fair the cast is friends with Pickle and respects Mushashi but one of these is a caveman and the other has explicitly gone too far and was stopped by Hanayama/Baki.
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>>288880088
I think these kind of comparisons have very little value, especially when it's between skilled authors, even as quirky as Itagaki, and a hack who'll contradict himself constantly, sometimes from a chapter to the next. At this point it's not a matter of execution anymore, the problem comes from Sandrobitch's inability to write proper antagonists: he either hates them bitterly and puts them through non-stop humiliation after thoroughly defanging them, or he suddenly falls in love with them and turns them into wholesome chunguses who from now on can't do wrong, their previous behavior will be retconned and they'll for all intents and purposes be considered protagonists.
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>>288880088
>respects Musashi
But did they? His character is completely incompatible with the path they take as warriors of the modern age, and I'm reluctant to say they respected his strength or technique because they kept poking at that swordsman-shaped hornets nest to see what came of it.
In that respect Pickle is interesting, because of how much he shares with Musashi. They're both warriors of times gone, thrown into this world entirely unfamiliar to them. To both of them fighting and killing was not only natural but deeply tied to their ways of life. And yet in spite of all of that Pickle had adjusted much better to this new way of life, despite being incapable of direct communication. Is it merely because his way of life was more compatible with the modern world than Musashi, and thus was allowed to continue? If Musashi decided he would stop/have no motivation to just keep on cutting down people left right and center would he have been permitted to remain and occasionally test his strength with the rest?
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Shen has no obligation to help anyone just because he is strong, but he is definitely a hypocrite.
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>>288880301
Sandrobitch's writing is like a painter hired to do the floor of a room, and having been retarded enough to paint himself into a corner, decides to stop caring and stomp all over the wet paint. Only to do that again and insist he was totally going for a "foot smears" effect.
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Sandro doesn't deserve to be called "Sandrobitch" just because he is writing a story you don't like
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>>288880088
I mean I could 100% see Yujiro doing that. Hell he might join in.
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>>288880617
You're right, he deserves to be called Sandroniggerfaggotretardvich
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>>288880356
Mushashi is(rightfully so) described flat out as a scummy, impure cheater. The cast respects him purely for his skill and unparalleled ability.
In that regard Pickle's desire to fight is much more simple, innocent, pure and even child-like.
When he had advantage over Baki he started going easy on him and play-fighting because he doesn't actually want to kill people who're fun to fight with.
Him recognizing someone as prey and eating chunks of them is a sign of respect since this mf would fight T-rexes barehanded.
Pickle doesn't have the personality to scheme or launch sneak attacks even though he's a "beast".
Mushashi would hide under your toilet with shit smeared on his face and stab you in the guts through your ass if he thought that's the only way he can win.

Now about Shengus.
He'a the ideal of an izzat warrior. He wouldn't ever even use a weapon because his entire purpose is to look cool and aurafarm from a meta perspective.
Even when Kuroki hurt him, it had to be stated that Shen was only using one hand.

He can never struggle against a foe(something that happened to Yujiro, Mushashi and Pickle on multiple occasions) or even be surprised by a technique.
That's why he's such a boring character.
Mushashi, Pickle, Yujiro are all "The Strongest" but they aren't "infallible" or "Literally unkilleable and could defeat every other character combined with 1 finger and matter of fact dont even have to move to win fights."

He's like One Punch Man's Caped Baldy if ONE bought into his own hype and the story became unironically about how strong Saitama is.


This is also why Shengus works better as a gag manga character.

For the same reason i imagine Mushashi guts him in 1 second.

Mushashi is basically Xia Ji with the skill to back up the endless scheming.
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>>288880646
He would do it on his own to mog every other rapist and murderer in existence.
If someone built an org to eliminate his threats for him before they even appear he would turn them into a male rape survivor's group.
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>>288880811
>Yujiro goes up mountains to find burly, hairy men to french kiss and rape
>This old fuck blushes at the thought of getting raped
>Threatens to rape Baki afterwards
I really want to know what was going on in Itagaki's mind when he wrote that chapter.
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>>288880883
His brain at that time was filled not with Grey Matter... But pure Testosterone
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What if Motobe trained Xia Ji and then he fought Shengus
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>>288880670
He walked right into that one lmao, the "spider web" is inescapable.
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>>288879489
That page exemplifies the problem with him. He's not a proactive villain who's driving the story forward with his actions. Everything Shen does is reactive to what others are trying to do about him.
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>>288881203
About as reactive as xenon, might I add.
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>>288881203
>Kenganvengers only do what they do because of Shen
>Shen doesn't actually do anything and the Worm just handles stuff
>The Worm does things because their big fans of Shen

So who's driving the car?
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>>288881203
>>288881274
Is the only proactive action Shen performed wanting to split his brain into two bodies, particularly those of Ryuki and Ohma?
Tried to backtrack from where the manga is rn and the only logical end I see is that Shen wants to put el tigre in its own body and fight him. The wu/worm are working to appease Shen because otherwise he might just go berserk or something, except even that does not justify a fraction of the actions Worm took throughout the series. That would in turn make one think that the worm are running in parallel multiple tasks, to do Shen's bidding and further their own personal goals, except we have no clue and no alluding to what those could possibly be. Best I can do is assume a WW1-like web of alliances with the core being Wu and Kure clans settling an old feud, with one side taking in the worm and the other with the KA, except even this is treated as background footnote material by the series.
Yes yes I will now go >>288878281 myself
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>knows that the author makes shit up as he goes along every single week
>still tries to make sense of it
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>>288881567
Why yes, I do like analysis of how train wrecks happen, how can you tell?
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At this point any post with a question mark is a hazard in kengan threads
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>>288881759
Are those the eyebrows of....you know....that guy?
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>>288881948
Je laisse cela ouvert à l'interprétation.
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>>288881587
>analysis
If a drunk conductor crashes his train, wondering what was his intention feels pointless.
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>>288882066
Conductor, you say... I can use that...
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>>288882066
The "Conductor" is on the move
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I'm gonna make a fancomic where Motobe PROTECTS Shengus from a fight with Yujiro
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>>288882066
I think the lax job circumstances that would allow a conductor to regularly drink on the job without repercussion would be really interesting.
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>>288881967
A daring synthesis
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>>288882099
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>>288882187
That's a failure on the regulatory bodies in charge of ensuring conductors do not get intoxicated on duty. Problem could be anywhere on the scale down to the security guard meeting him in the morning.
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>>288882126
They wouldn't have the courage to make that his loss animation in Tekken, but it would be kino.
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>>288882126
Sorry delulu, but Yujiro would lose
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>>288881203
>the Worm does everything they do because of Shen
>except Shen never did anything and doesn't plant to

Absolutely riveting story.
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>>288883146
He can copy any technique tho
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>>288879489
HE LITERALLY TRACKS GAOH MUKAKU DOWN AND MURDERS HIM IN HIS OWN HOME
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>>288883230
>>288883230
You mean, "his" clone?
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>>288883230
>Well he wanted to kill me
>It makes sense for me to "defend" myself by attacking him
>I even handicapped myself to make it a fair fight
-Shen
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>>288881370
THAT BASTARD!
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>>288883304
Sounds like something I've heard on the radio to justify whatever war in the middle east was going on at the time.
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>>288883230
>>288883304
>>288883416
Shen and Koga have the same principles. If you wrong them once they will catch you eventually in justified manner.
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>>288883408
Don't you dare say his name.
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>>288883474
>Shen and Koga have the same principles
Bravo Sandrovich
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>>288884962
Can't wait for the Koga bastard child plot point in the future.
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>>288872408
lmao that's good



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