Chapter 198: Go for BrokeArchive:https://desuarchive.org/a/search/subject/daily%20kengan/start/2025-12-14/order/asc/
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Chapter 199: To the Inside
>>289005360NOT THE OKUBO TACKLE
>>289005461For a second there I expected him to announce his retirement
>>289005474>I wanted to give Koga the pep talkThis is so gay, like, not in the homosexual sense but in the "This-is-ass" way. You just had a fucking fight you could have died in and you're going >Ahh hrmm I wish I could have dedicated this bout to our precious princess...
Chapter 200: The World of the Inside
>>289005567Who's this guy?
>>289005598lmao Sasuke actually got dumpedServes you right
>>289005598Why the fuck is Rei here then?>I'll escort you through the relatively safe parts but I'm gonna bail when you're most likely to need meWhy wouldn't you take someone else who understands fights outside the ring don't need to be done under purgatory rules?Don't hit me with the frenchman, it's rhetorical.
>>289005777Hmmmm. I don't buy it. Where are the 3m tall gangsters with mohawks?
>>289005628>He'll take us anywhere as long as the pay is rightI can't believe Yumi is going to be their guide...
>>289005850SSSSSSHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYEEEEEEAAAAA
>>289005735My HEROES.And HIMURO.
>>289005882KNEEL BEFORE THE ICY EMPERORHE'S ON PAR WITH THE LEGENDS YOU KNOW
DONE
>>289005952>
>>289005952No. You are not making anyone believe this. It's over. Even the most ardent Omega fanboy will not think a nanosecond Ohma has a chance of dying ever.
>>289005952>Koga, it isn't enough that I took your main character spot>And it's not enough that you've lost your initial personality>I also need you to replace your fighting style with mine>only then will "you" be erased and "I" will be the only "protagonist vessel" we need
>>289005973Oh yeah this is straight up the worst arc in Kengan IMO. Setting the awful plot aside its here you can tell goes full AI, not to mention what will happen to a certain character by the end.
>>289005876More Low-key how?He was just standing around like the rest of them and he knocked the guy out with a flick of the wrist
>>289006041That's why it's suspicious: he was too strong to be low-key.Instead he should have pretended to struggle so it seems like a druggie scuffle and not a curbstomp from some big dog coming in.
>>289006000I can see Sandro redoing the end of Ashura at the end of Omega yeah, as if it's ever going to end with him sitting under a tree and all but instead of Advance overdose he'll die because something about the cloning process was fucked up and it shortened his lifespan
>oh my god guys you're not ready for "the inside">it's so horrible I can't even describe it>it's terrifying to even think about>truly hell on earth>you'll never be the same once you see itAnyway here's the inside with its fully functioning society and logistics.They carry guns in public, aren't you scared yet?
>>289006096Signaling that you may be a weak mark is also a very bad idea in that kind of environment though
>>289006105So far it's as bad as being a tourist in Paris.
>>289006102Then in chapter 50 of kengan zeta he appears with a cyborg body to save Kazzy's great-great-great-grandson.
>>289006122Sure, it's about showing a "reasonable" amount of force.
>>289005532>the disputed zone is the most dangerous part of the inside>>289005652>Rikuko ward is the most dangerous part of the inside>>289005910>Tokito ward is the most dangerous part of the insideYOU CAN'T HAVE MULTIPLE PLACES THAT ARE "THE WORST" YOU FUCKING HACK
>>289005373>>289005384>>289005394>>289005406Okubo really did get brain damage.
>>289006232Well, he said Tokita WAS the worst. As for Rikuko, it's just Rin's perspective
>>289006232Well, as Icy emperor puts it, opinions are divided.
>>289005518How do you build an entire apartment in a day?
>>289006313Well the inside has no government so that means no red tape beauracracy so they can do it Chinese style where it goes up in a day but the concrete is full of sawdust and 20 guys died in the process.
>>289005973Didnt he say we are never gonna see him again 5 chapters ago
>>289006274Tiger Niko also said Rikuko was the worst and if the orphan crusher says it's bad I'm inclined to trust him.
>>289005890Gaaaaaaaaaaaay
>>289006313They've got the most dangerous contractors, willing to work in the most dangerous parts of the dangerous districts for dangerously low pay.
How much longer until mukaku?
>>289006391Now that you mention it, we've never seen Kushida and Tiger Niko in the same room...
>>289006038Yeah. Koga vs Ryuki was probably the last thing resembling a good moment in the series, and as other anons in previous threads have said the circumstances around that moment really rob it from being as good as it could have been. From here on out we're in AI town with nothing to look forward to except how stupid things get.
>>289005406>>289005420>Sekibayashi won>We have a winner>And the winner is SekibayashiThanks.
>>289005406You don't know that until you check Okubo's pulse
>>289005932Probably just some long pork
>>289006470It's the kind of thing you'd get between chapters where one ends on the event and the other begins with it, but it's mid chapter.
>>289006313Look at Kowloon.
>>289005652Sandro is really obsessed with Rikuko. He likes likes hyping it up.
>>289005735This party really sucks. Ohma, Retsudo, Himuro, and Rei are all the same character archetype.
>>289005552Amazing how not dangerous the inside ends up being
I cant wait to see THE GENERAL
>>289005753>They'd tear it down if it was too thinThere's a fucking door there. With seemingly no protection.
>>289006441The reason she almost never opens her eyes is to prevent people from noticing the family resemblance
>>289005461>>289005474God I fucking hate this nepo baby
>>289005673My boy jacked
>>289005735What a lame team to send into the inside.
>>289005673Sight of Masaki fills me with joy
>>289005735Why the fuck is Himuro still a thing? Who likes this guy?
>>289005882What's stopping all of you from just going outside?
>>289005932Ohma has definitely eaten human flesh before.
>>289005952Ohma is gonna huisheng Koga into himself
>>289005973Thanks op.
>>289006105Feels less rough than Roanapur from Black Lagoon honestly.
>>289006675The only one that matters, Sandro
>>289006232Sure you canThe disputed zone is the most dangerousAnd Rikuko is the most hellish
>>289005552Why do people even live in the inside?
>>289006757Free healthcare and affordable housing
What possessed sandro to push Himuro for summerslam in omega? Obviously he loves his Ashura characters but it's not like Himuro was the lone jobber who didn't get a fair shake the first time around. Sawada was brought back just to lose again even though he was Rihito's rival at one point and Rihito is currently rival-less since Ohma left his ass behind. Nezu did nothing whatsoever despite being the champion of a different underground fighting league. (I'm glad he's a family man now though) Chiba has a total of one token victory against a jobber. It's not like he could have been involved in counter spy shenanigans against the worm or anything.But for some reason Himuro in particular gets screentime and praise out the ass.
>>289005673Good grief Masaki you need to start buying one size bigger because nothing is left to the imagination here.If he flexed even slightly he'd burst out of that shirt like the hulk.
>>289005882This is how I expect all of you to treat THE Icy Emperor.
>>289006734This is dangerously in line with his thought process when writing.Anon...are you "him"?
>>289005474>Okubo wanted to give this guy he doesn't talk to the peptalkGay and retarded. Also how many people know about Ryuki's situation? Did Kazuo blab to everyone within hearing distance? I don't think Okubo nor Seki should know about the situation for security sake
>>289005772>You just had a fucking fight you could have died in Seki and Okubo ainโt killing anyone
>>289006570Are you trying to tell me you don't think characters going -_- the whole time isn't just the coolest?
>>289006313With a lot of Modelo
>>289005952There's nothing to say
>>289005973I'm bored. When does that evil, reprehensible, the lowest of the low guy appear?
>>289006925Aren't "we" all "me"?
>>289006879His fate as "man briefly mentioned in the legends" was set the moment Sandro said Himuro is from the Inside, the place the main character is from. You can say Ohma and Himuro "share" the "plot DNA", however Himuro received all the "recessive genes"
>>289005474>adds a line from the referee calling Okubo tough just to remind the audience he's strongHe does this to everyone regardless of winning or losing, just cut out the middleman and introduce them with (he's strong btw) in brackets next to their name.
>>289005461>>289005474God Koga feels like such a mary sue self-insert. It's like I'm reading bad fanfiction.>>289005598Lmao so Rei losing really did give her the ick.>>289005735Just 5 silent and stoic men, going for a walk. >>289005777How the fuck do all of these people live in that huge area anyway if it is supposed to be closed off? There has to be a large amount of trade going in and out of it, especially for food. It all honestly makes no sense.>>289005902I hate how all bad authors do this shit. Write something retarded, and then justify it by having the characters bring it up. >>289005918They really didn't bring any rations? This shit looks more likely to kill them than any attack.>>289005952If the twist is that he's trying to huisheng Koga into a clone of himself, I will forgive Sandro for a lot of his bad decisions.
>>289005735>>289006570I just realized its 4 stoic quiet guys and Koga, who is gradually becoming a stoic quiet guy. Phenomenal. Could have brought Muteba along at least. Or Inaba.
>>289005552>Ohma just went around on the Outside to avoid the Insides bullshitHonestly, kind of funny given Ohma's feral child backstory. Himuo has more street cred than Ohma lol>>289005567Uhm, who are you and why were you allowed in? >>289005735I can understand Ohma and Himuro going in since they're Natives to the Inside but Koga doesn't have main character status anymore to justify going in, Rei is pussying out halfway because he's still yearning for a girl who dumped him and Retsudo has zero feats or credibilityI don't understand why Worm Hunter Lolong, Mercenary Muteba and Agito couldn't have gone. This is like sending in your D-Team when you already have an A-Team
>>289007140> MutebaArent they all pretty much hobos? Can they even afford him?
>>289007098>Write something retarded, and then justify it by having the characters bring it up.You'll get used to it
>>289005735TO SAVE THE WORLD
>>289005973Did this arc really need more gay sexual tension?
>>289005518Just a day? Unfathomable.
>>289005735ENTER /OURHEROS/...... and Sasuke.
>>289005542When did he mention the villa? I completely forgot
>>289005973There was some Ai here and there in previous chapters but The Inside arc is really where Daro starts PROOOOMPTING. It's so blatant and neither he nor his assistants try to hide it or spruce it up just a tadDid I also mention Setsuna losing his long hair was a detriment. It helped contrast Ohma's seaweed hair and more bulky body type with Setsuna's more lean body type and long flowing hair. His new haircut ain't "cutting" it and he's so much more subdued than before. He's still crazy, Ohma didn't do anything other than stop him from getting worse
>>289006973You will be safe from "that" man for only one more week.
>>289005518The Inside is like a steroid version of how I'd imagine a Jap who spent his entire life in an orderly japanese neighborhood write a lawless ghetto
>>289007147>Honestly, kind of funny given Ohma's feral child backstory.It really doesn't make much sense either, that you can just do that.At that point, why even stay Inside, really?
>>289005461So... what is he teaching Koga here? To not have second thoughts about something he was clearly deadset on to begin with?
>>289007140>MutebaLmao first thing he do is take Koga out whoring
>>289007263The only way to save omega is turning it into a yaoi manga.
Hassad soon.
>>289005488>>289005518>>289005532>>289005552>The inside is full of traps and it's layout is constatly changing>The zone Ryuki is engulfed in a constant turf war>Crossing the inside is so dangerous not even Ohma daredIt's truly amazing how Sandro spends several pages setting up the multiple dangers of the inside, just for not a single one of them to have any pay off whatsoever.
>>289005567Who?
>>289005952I HATE THE NIKO STYLE
>>289005742>the government has abandoned the inside>but they maintain a wall right outside it with a paid guard and stop people from going in or outThatโs not really โabandonedโ or โignoredโ but okThis is a real โhave your cake and eat it tooโ situation, the inside is supposed to be a no manโs land, yet we also need to see how important the kengan bros are so we get this
>>289007493Daro...
>>289005765lmfao he thinks its final fantasy 7
>>289005850ENTER KNIFECHAD
>>289007140Probably the only time I've thought Raian should be here.If I was going somewhere hyped up to be a lawless shitshow with a high chance of murder I think I would replace the assassin who doesn't kill with the guy who enjoys tearing people in half.
>>289007547He's not wrong.I think "the inside" would be scarier if the team got lost in Rikuko and we had an arc of Koga trying to escape sexual slavery.
>>289007419>At that point, why even stay Inside, really?One could say that Ohma was a stupid feral kid but at the same time he was successfully killing grown adults with cartoonishly huge knives and was incredibly aware of his surroundings and knew how Inside Society workedI can understand people are using Inside as a place to hide out but Ohma was not really born into it but he was raised there so he could have just as easily have taken his chances out in the Outside if he was using it as a way of traveling to and from, rightWith him, Himuro and Setsuna it seems like you can just leave. It doesn't actually take a whole lot of effort. Ohma and Setsuna had nothing but they knew about the Kengan Association and went on their own from and Himuro had enough connections to be able to apply for school on the Outside. I think Rin just got super lucky with Metsudo though
>>289005932>the inside is sooo dangerous their large spacious restaurants have dirty tables!
The Insider?Its like picnic compare to Detroit
>>289007591Raian would attract way too much trouble, which isn't what they wan/t Muteba would really be the absolute perfect fit, its really stupid Sandro didn't think of it.>>289007162>Retsudo
Oh i get it nowThe Insider is Kengaverse's worst place because it was made by AI>AI draw>AI plot
>>289005952The worst part about Omega is that i believe that Koga SHOULD have picked up the mantle from Ohma, but the way it happened is just so poorly set up.In an alternate timeline, Ohma is still dead and Koga would have had to piece together the Niko style on his own from observing Ryuki and Yahmashita straight up explaining Ohma's fighting style to him, which would have given him an actual role in the story, unlike now.Or Ohma could have still come back in a way, but he's "retired" now because of his heart, and taught him in his place since Ohma couldn't fight anymore.Or Maybe Gaoh would have had a change of heart after seeing his grandson's best friend coming to get him, despite being weak, and taught him some before kicking it as a final act of self-redemption So many thing could have happened that were way more interesting than this>Why do you even want Koga to learn the Niko style?You're chewing rocks if you think the MC was not gonna be a Nikker.The Niko style is obviously pseudo "Principles"
Given what weโve seen from martial arts training in the manga so far, it seems to require lots of stability in your life to be able to actually focus on training for long periods of time. If someone came across a young Rei or Ryuki or Ohma during their various near death training arcs theyโd be easy pickings. So why should I assume anyone in the Inside is actually strong, and not just typical knife jobber level? If you are someone actually strong why not leave the inside? It seems like only people like the Worms and Niko would want to be here so they could take advantage of orphans. But otherwise it doesnโt seem like a great place to get strong.
>>289007626Sandro...
>>289005952In another manga this would be a death flag/"passing the torch" moment, but we all know Sandrobitch won't have the ball to kill a Kenganvenger, let alone the "main character" he asspulled back from the grave
>>289007591As much as I hate him he would fit here a million times better than he did at KvP. Replace Metsudo's kid and Rei with Riain and Muteba and you have a wild ass adventure
>>289005693>can you believe it?No, I really can't.
>>289005777me on the left
>>289005420Notice Alisa's unfocused expression and open, drooling mouth.
My memory might be bad here but I'm pretty sure Koga doesn't even use any Niko Style moves he didn't already know after this conversation. Not that he has much of a chance to because his only real fight since then is with Yumi (lol). The Kure shit wasn't really a fight.Meanwhile the true main character Ohma has had like seven in that same time span.
>>289005735Boredom is on the move
>>289005777>yep, I was once the most d/a/ngerous Kengan Omega Daily reader>but I took one step in The Inside and..>well look at me nowalso>checked
>>289006313Most construction, in terms of time, is just red tape to keep shit up to code.If you didn't care about the building being dogshit, then yeah, building it in a day isn't too crazy.
>>289007544To the Japanese mind, a world without bureaucracy is unfathomable.
>>289005518They don't give a damn about zoning...that piece of SHIT must be behind this
>>289005850Knife count: 77>>289005864Knife users winning count: 9
>>289005420>that was so awesome!!! i can't believe what i just watchedyou just saw okubo get enough brain damage to return his iq to the single digits koga
>>289007650 I bet they don't even have food safety management certification and use no organic ingredients. The depths of the Inside depravity are truly unfathomable.
>>289006757u can prolly rent a 3 bedroom apartment near public transport and a supermarket for like 20$ per year as long as you are ok with the possibility of getting molested every few weeks
>>289005552Is the "outside" as dangerous as the "inside"?
How would Sandro write Rance?
>>289005735>serious martial artist type who always keeps his cool >also serious martial artist type who always keeps his cool>third guy who we haven't seen do much but so far mainly just aurafarmed by looking serious and keeping his cool>koga>THE serious martial artist type who always keeps his cool
>>289005344Who is muto
>>289008898Heโs the wrestler who invented the shining wizard move
>>289005918nigga ate human meat lmao
>>289005952at this point the niko style is the only successful example of huisheng
>>289008759Now he can enjoy omega too!
>>289006105its extremely funny cuz in omega we literally already see brazillian favelas and the inside does not seem particularly different from those besides having a bigger stream of money coming into it
>>289005918>>289005932>ohma and koga probably just ate diced up and broiled human meat>it's played off as a joke
>>289005420Almost like alisa is wearing nothing at all
>>289008932>>289009017NUTRIENTS
>>289008971kek
>>289005667same fucking expressionsame fucking braincell
>>289005735MY HEROES....And Ohma....And Rei....And Retsudo....And Koga....And Himuro.
>>289005765>hype the shit out of the "Inside">it's just a brazillian favelaFrom the way Sandro talks about it, I expected the walls to twist and turn and for everything to be upside down.
>>289009262>inside as described>kowloon walled country populated entirely by murderhobo bruce lees>inside as depicted>mesa arizona
>>289005420Alisa looks naked here
>>289005952Yeah, even I can tell this is not gonna go anywhere
>>289009017what's the problem?
>>289006879Sandro has a really weird fixation with Himuro.Himuro is humiliated by Kaneda, the weakest character, and for the rest of Ashura he's kind of a joke character, even bullied at times. Come Omega, Himuro is suddenly this super competent Inside guy that can track down anybody with all his connections, he's someone you should take seriously and respect. Then the Berserker Bowl happens, Himuro is filtered by Haruo, another shit tier fighter, and Adam, who isn't bad and has been improving, but isn't that amazing either. What's the deal here? He's a joke in fights and someone you should take seriously outside of them. It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't see Himuro often, but Sandro loves using him.
>>289009071did daro actually reference the "I AM A SURGEON" meme for that panel
>>289005567Whoga?
>>289006879>>289009419What I don't get is the only good part about Himuro's character was his friendship with Kaneda and for some reason that didn't get represented in Omega at all
>Inside>>2890054881>>2890055032>>2890055183>>2890055324>>28900569310>>28900585016>>28900588217>>28900591018>>28900593919
>>289005474Why would a MMA world champion bother to give a literally who a pep talk? At least Seki was his mentor
>>289005474Too late Sandro, Koga doesn't feel like the protag anymore.
>>289008816>Rance would be a stoic cool guy who never shows any interest in women>Sill stands on sidelines gawking and making obvious, braindead observations on the battle >Rance's lack of a level cap is because of a secret sword style he was taught as a child by his surrogate father>Meglass is still dead
>>289008816>her pussy was too strong, that's why she lost.
>>289007098>God Koga feels like such a mary sue self-insert. It's like I'm reading bad fanfiction.Compare this with how Sandro approached Jose and Koga's relationship. Koga was an arrogant dick to Jose at first. He thought he was better. Then he got humbled by Jose, genuinely admitted his wrongdoing, and then Jose agreed to both befriend him (and Seki and the rest of the wrestlers welcomed him to the wrestling club).It didn't feel like Jose and Seki were revolving their world around a Mary Sue.It's sad how Sandro's approach to speedrunning Koga as the protagonist again has resulted in him becoming a far worse character.
>>289005851Rei is both a fan favorite and hasn't shown up in the manga in a while, so Sandro needs to shove him into a section to get his paypigs to clap like seals. That's how Sandro makes decisions on matters like this.
>>289006105Gachiakuta nailed it
>>289005673>>289005681>>289005693>>289005704Seeing Masaki again is the only good part about this chapter. A shame that Sandro has seemingly completely dropped his whole Huisheng-like subplot.
>>289005681You know, it'd be interesting if it turned out the uncle actually knew both the truth about Masaki and that he killed his father. It would make this relationship have a special dynamic where the uncle fears Masaki but he knows that Masaki needs him to lead the company.Just to keep the illusion of this being a normal family relationship, the uncle pretends to be a loving uncle and publicly makes claims that he wants Masaki to take over the family.And here I go again, spending more time thinking up fanfiction that's better than what Sandro shits out.
>>289007650Sandro has an absolutely horrendous sense of world building.
>>289005952>And if something happens to me...WOW, WHAT A DEATHFLAG!!!!159 chapters later....nothing happens to him
>>289006879It's very simple. Himuro is a pretty gyaruoh boy who probably is a big favorite among the 1% of Kengan fans who are actually fujo women.He has Himuro show up often to make them wet. It also explains the constant gay moments like Himuro and Metsudo's son lighting a cigarette together with each other's cigarettes.It's just a way to ensure the small percentage of Kengan fujos stay loyal and keep paying money.Don't overthink it.
>>289005816Wasn't it more like he dumped her?
>>289005952Ohma has been secretly whispering his life story into Koga's ear at night so he can do that reincarnation bullshit
>>289010831In the hands of a better writer, we could have had something really thematically compelling about the different ways people pass on their legacies and memories, with Huisheng and Worm brain transplants being the most radical and monstrous, and with Koga's way of learning and honoring his masters being the compassionate way.It could be compelling if it was actually well thought out and didn't suffer from a billion different contradictions, inconsistencies, dogshit pacing, etc.
>>289005735>>289006570>>289007140>>289007147>>289008875Sandro just decides shit like this on personal vibes and which Kenganvengers have gone the longest since getting some lip service/screentime. So in this case that's Rei. Himuro, because Sandro is obsessed with him, and Retsudo because we need a way to include some Metsudo wank too. Rei in particular is just nonsensical due to his no killing and stated intent to abandon the group. WHY would you include a person like that in a small team where you don't want to attract too much attention? Let's even put aside Purgatory characters and only consider Kenganvenger candidates. Why not replace him with Muteba, or even a K*re, who would be just as good in an environment and aren't planning to leave right when it gets dangerous?Stupid roster stuff will continue going forward in future tournaments and the like too.
>30 minutes since the last response>over 7 hours and we're only at 217 postsDamn, this thread is even more dead than yesterday's daily was. That's how trash these three chapters were that people have nothing to talk about other than shitting on its AI pages and all the lazy page filler.
>>289011027>In the hands of a better writerThis is what I find so interesting about Omega. There's a lot of potential with the story, but the author consistently takes the worst possible route every time. It makes for a fascinating case study on what not to do.
>>289005973>"I'm not going to see you anymore">Immediately shows up
>>289005765>>289005777>>289005790>>289005823ENTER: AI-SAMADaro's embracing of AI happened at the worst possible time for the series frankly. The Inside was hyped as this horrible hellhole since Ashura, and the parts of it we saw back then DID look bad. But now, not only has Sandro massively sanded down the edge and sanitized the setting whenever possible so we're not going to be walking past "Al's Rent-A-Bitch" and whatever like we saw in Ashura flashbacks, but also Daro has completely given up on backgrounds, environments, and extras, so this arc was completely doomed from day one between the two of them to be completely incapable of selling this place.
>>289011379>me when reading Omega
>>289005882Did "the General" ask to "come Inside" Himuro as a "favor" for going "outside"?
>>289005850why would knifeguy do this
>>289005932>>289009017>>289009071The real question is if it was meat from one of "the strong", to be "nutritious" enough to help them "scale the wall".
>>289005952
>>289011379My memory of the past week is already hazy with regards to this manga. I remember the AI garage page.But did Kiryu really say that he'll never see Ohma again when he left the BB tournament?
>>289011469MY HERO
>>289007098>>289010209Blame that Ohma eat away timeI think Sandro intended to be slowly built up Koga to making friend with Kenganverse, but now its focus on Ohma, he was forced to speedrun it
>>289011481If you're curious, the exact page is here.>>288961457
>>289011403Can we just skip this filler arc and go straight to when that IRREDEEMABLE EVIL BASTARD shows up?
>>289011529That's hilarious. Sandro either didn't remember 8 chapters back or couldn't be bothered to maintain any semblance of consistency.
>>289005406>>289005420Seki is the one shining gen left.
AAAAAIEEEEEE
>>289011903I need worm tongue edits on the bottom panel
>>289005973Wait Kiryu shows up in this arc too???? Man my mental hard drive of this arc purely consists of THAT and has no space for anything else
>>289005952Sakamoto Days did this shit too with the recent chapter and I just don't know who the fuck these writers think their fooling. You get one chance to kill your protagonist. That emotional beat doesn't work twice.
>>289005532My ass is the most dangerous part of the inside
>>289005612If our WHAT is too big
>>289005628Chat is that hassad
>>289005667Cant wait to see koga in one piece
>>289005735GOOD IS ON THE MOVE
>>289005394NOT YET SEKI OKUBO NEEDS MORE BRAIN DAMAGE!HIS NECK TANKED YOUR SHINING WIZARD, BREAK HIS NECK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO
>>289011986>You get one chance to kill your protagonist. That emotional beat doesn't work twice.Sandro already did that with Ohma and he brought Ohma back.Does Sandro really think these threats have any weight?
>>289005973>Shhh Kiryu, we need to pretend this manga has stake. Don't just shut down every threat to my life before it even starts
>>289011349Freshies saw how all the Gu Ritual victims were despairing and openly talking about how BORING Kengan gets during and after this arc that they decided to bail outAnd let's not kid ourselves either, a good chunk of people rightfully abandoned ship once they saw all of Sandro's tricks and realized that "this" is all he had. The memes stop after this arc, we don't get fresh batches until WAY later Once we get to the Real Champions arc, Five Nights at Ohma's and Whoga and Jobberyuki's Sleepover at the K*res Mansion of Fun it's fucking over, this place is gonna be a ghost town and OP might as well stop dumping
>>289012344The RCT and FNAO happening one after the other did more mental damage to this community than anything else. Yes that includes the tragedy and all the other shit happening around that time.
>>289012344I'm waiting for my man, the most despicable and evil villain ever created!That... That bastard!
>>289012064>Alisa bribing both fighters to go for the kill>Alisa failing to call a fight in time just to see some blood>Alisa applying to referee every fight with a kure clan fighter>Alisa waking up in the middle of the night after another nightmare>Alisa always asking for the most fucked up stories from her fellow referees>Alisa finding a Worm tattoo on a fighter and not saying anything
>>289005344>>289005360The amount of "lol didn't hurt" is getting stupid. So I take it nothing in the matches matter anymore until sandro decides that he wants to end the fight?
>>289012762>Alisa finding a Worm tattoo on herself>she doesn't remember when or where she got it
To the dude I was arguing about Tsuyisho, Yujiro and Subaru in the Baki thread: sorry dude I had to go to bed then to work. I'll prepare better arguments for next time.
>>289005777>Old guy>butcher is chopping up some sort of vegetable/tentacle monster?>Old crippled guy with armed guard>Open display of weapons and narcotics, shopkeeper is relaxed and laid back>crowded space, everyone is looking straight forwardThe inside must be a very respectful place. Sandro should have at least spent 5 minutes looking at real life because this shit is way too comfy for even relatively safe ghettos. If you look at ghetto niggers their head twitches around like crazy because they are constantly on the lookout for other niggers.
>>289013186Looking at it carrying rifles around while in a shoulder-to-shoulder crowd is especially fucking bizarre
>>289011903>>289011925
>>289013186>Sandro should have at least spent 5 minutes looking at real lifeCome on, you're asking for the impossible here.You know that Sandro caps out at 5 minutes of work per week. If he spends 5 or (*gasp!*) more minutes working on research into lawless warzones, then he won't have any time left to write the week's chapter!Who do you think he is, Satoru Noda? Get the fuck out of here!
>>289013421Thank you so much. I'll make sure to repost it in future threads, seeing as how the current thread is on life support. Your work will not go unnoticed.
>>289013421"Day" of the "fireworks" sounds like something a worm jobber would say to our heroes before the Italy bombing
>>289005326Omega dump went from hitting bump limit within a few hours... to not even breaking 300 replies in a day.What happened?
>>289013476The tragedy.
>>289013476>>289013486It's hilarious how the engagement in this daily has PERFECTLY reflected the original curve of these threads back in the day. It isn't just us who already "arrived" coping that the "tragedy" killed the series.
>>289013264>Axl low vs Chipp
>>289013502Complete with a bump around the time of the Koga/Ryuki fight, from now on we're extremely close to the last of the worthwhile moments and then the long plunge into the abyss.
>>289011550Anything that happens in a prior chapter is soft canon at best.
>>289008898He's the guy doing the shining wizard here
Fucking hell are the threads dead now. Chapter something volume 20 extra, google translated.
>>289005461Thanks Shia.
>>289005461>DO IT>Seki, I was already determined to do it anyw->JUST DO IT
>>289005806>damn, this disgusting hellhole looks like a foreign country, or at least i assume that's what all other countries look like, i've never been abroadRACISTshima Koga.
>>289013455>5 minutes of work8 seconds. He takes a deep breath, in which he stops breathing for 8 seconds. He also abandons thinking. For 8 seconds, Sandro writes solely based on reflex, cultivated from his years of writing experience. By cutting out thinking and breathing, Sandro temporarily boosted his brain's processing speed. This is nearly the same principle as procrastinating, which lazy high school students use to avoid studying for a midterm. His bullshitting increases proportional to how much of a writer's pet the character currently onscreen is and the gaps between chapters that are written logically consistent shorten. This makes it the Golden 8 Seconds. For 8 seconds, Sandro's writing becomes unfathomable, hence Golden 8 Seconds.
>>289005474Why the fuck would Okubo want to give a pep talk to Koga?>EVERYONE wants to train Koga>EVERYONE wants to give pep talks to Koga>EVERYONE caters to KogaGod you guys weren't kidding about him being a mary sue
>>289014489The funny thing is aside from this Koga is manifestly not a Mary Sue. He only has a tangential family relation to an established character, he's got a middling natural ability at best and despite being the protagonist of a fighting manga for nearly 200 chapters he's nowhere near relevant power wise. Even his trainers are mainly three guys established early on (Seki, Kureishi and Joji) with Ohma adding in some moves later on and like, one sparring session with Agito and Lolong.But it still feels weird because post KVP he gets a ton of attention and like 60 guys forcing Xia Ji to fight him ruined all the effort put into making Koga's development feels earned.
>>289010343this actually reinforces my own personal theory that to achieve success, specially in terms of having a "fandom" your work needs to suck a bit, or at least have some very clear flaws that people can pick apart, and not just tear down, but be disappointed enough in that they go out of their way to consider how they'd fix iti'd actually defend JJK's quality more than most people here, but i fully believe why it stayed so long in public consciousness and got so huge is because gege has absolutely MASSIVE pitfalls as a writer and everyone feels like they can come up with an entirely different way to just change something a little bit to try n fix those issues he writes himself intoin a different world where omega was better written, just enough where people would be willing to call it a "flawed" instead of pure dogshit, i think it would actually be a baki-tier sensation as people keep picking it apart and reappraising what of it is "actually good" and how much of the weird shit can be headcanon'd away into being thematically meaningful or intentional
>>289014583he's less of a gary stu and more of a make a wish kid
>>289014451But it only lasts for 6 seconds as Daro submits another draft with useless extra side characters in them.
>>289014603This was actually the case going into the KVP, people had a ton of theories about Ohma being a worm imposter or Kiryu after plastic surgery (a theory for Ryuki's identity too at one point) and if you look on Reddit you can probably see a lot of "how I'd write it" threads from around that time. It was the long stretch after the KVP especially after this current arc where things went so downhill that people stopped thinking of Omega as salvageable, and Eddie was the tipping point where every site was more than 50% negative on the series (and there's a later point where even the diehard defenders gave up on Kengan). Nowadays the only people even somewhat positive about Kengan are newer fans who speedread all of the stuff old timers suffered through and could fool themselves into thinking it wasn't so bad.
>>289014583>he's nowhere near relevant power wiseWouldn't say this desu. The manga has so far avoided the topic, but I think current Koga would absolutely shit on """legends""" like Himuro.
>>289014603Disappointment in someone/something stings way more when you know that a fix would be so easy and obvious but is not taken, and when you know that this fix would otherwise allow that person/work to achieve greatness.
>>289005735to save the ryuki
>>289009687I love this meme
>>289007493Tomoko...
>>289014603This >>289014777"This is my KVP rewrite" used to be a threadly occurrence here too, even outside people like pastebin who were more normal about it, pretty much for the reasons you're saying. You have people exchanging ideas for a better Inside arc too. But it pretty much falls off entirely after this arc because after this, the new material is just so utterly fucking LIFELESS and dreary that nobody has any passion to try and do anything with the base ideas.
>>289005961Is it slightly more forgivable if this is the subtlest foreshadowing on the planet that Ohma is actually going to die for real eventually?
>>289015862>eventuallyWhat do you by this? Like as in he's gonna be an 80 year old man and die in his sleep of natural causes?
>>289015719More than that I think the real reason this arc is the deathblow is because A ton of backstory stuff got dropped which basically eliminated a lot of theorising.Though ironically even early Omega had theorising about everything. Who the new fang was was a big mystery and it had a crap resolution.
>>289015878YuhWell I mean there was an anon that had this idea that if Ohma came back the way it should have been done is make it clear he is on borrowed time and is severely nerfed so Koga can still take the spotlight as the main character if Sandro wanted Ohma's story to be concluded even though he dedieded last manga and to act as his mentor and give him the Niko styleBringing him back wholesale having a full revive used on him was a mistake, but that idea might make it slightly more forgivable.
Kengan Alpha should be about Fusui, Karla, Sayaka and Alisa
>>289016005Kengan Yuri....
>>289015878Worse... he will be a ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-NINE YEAR OLD man... and he will die after he NOBLY SACRIFICES HIMSELF stopping every single one of that TERRIBLE TYRANT of TOPHET Luohan's FIENDOUS PLANS by killing him and all of his secret henchmen...
>>289015960Oh sure. If we're talking about lesser evils here, him being some kind of a cripple or vegetable would have been preferable. Like perhaps instead of him having some cringey full color U WANNA FITE 2???? page on chapter 50, he was living on borrowed time and maybe wheelchair bound the entire time as you said.Or maybe the Worm exhumed his body after he was buried and put his body in kind of a stasis chamber and make one of the end goals being to put him out of his misery and let him rest in peace.That said, that would still tarnish the sense of finality in Asura's ending though. If Sandro wanted to bring Ohma back, someone pointed out here that Koga could have pieced together a Niko-esque style by watching Ohma's videos from the KAT. Hell, he was ALREADY watching Ohma videos with Ryuki in that one chapter before chapter 50.It could lead to scenarios where Koga imagines having conversations with Ohma that at first are hostile since Koga thinks of Ohma as a dick to be taken down. But as he watches more videos and talks to more people about Ohma, he begins to learn more about him and realizes that he misunderstood Ohma, so his imaginary conversations and sparring sessions in his head show a kinder Ohma over time.
>>289011986Qrd
>>289016111So you think Ohma should become a mind ghost the same way Tokita was in Ashura?
>>289015719I think it's more than the longer the manga goes, the more the rewrite has to be a complete overhaul because the story is too nonsensical to simply "patch"Too much effort
>>289005532Damn I can't wait to see how Sandro ties all these factions into the plot!
>>289010593I believe this too. He left her for the time being to stop being "blue".
>>289016220Yes. >>289016763It's not that for me. I did fanfic of KVP because there was stuff worth salvaging.What since the end of KVP has been worth salvaging?None of the new characters in the RCT interested me. None of the new characters like the jobber worms in the current Fortnite arc feel salvageable. In contrast, characters like Medel or Lu Tian or whatever FEEL like they have potential for rewrites.
>>289005735>Only Koga is carrying a bagThey just let him bring all their stuff huh?
>>289018090
>>289008875I think the image he wanted here was that of a bunch of badasses finally on the move?Like think of Predator with the main dudes after they take out the not!cubans and stuff starts going south.Trying to think what's up with Sandro's love for stoic characters. I understand the appeal, it's a character who is serious and focused on the task at hand, but who does not let heat get to his head. That sort of stuff is cool I admit it, but then why does it not work here? Is it just the "promise" of that image without any of the actual payoff?
>>289018090They really needed a waterboy but they couldn't ask Koga directly so they bribed both Seki and Okubo to give him a pep talk. Now he can't complain because he joined them on his own volition
>>289018556Might be how he sees himself.
>>289018556>That sort of stuff is cool I admit it, but then why does it not work here?Because it's really not that cool if you think about it. A stoic dude needs some louder characters to bounce off, or really cool adventures for his calm to shine. Here nothing ever happens.
>>289018556>but then why does it not work here? Is it just the "promise" of that image without any of the actual payoff?Frenchman.pngBut yes, that's part of it. But also, Omega has been lacking in character that everyone just melds into the same person. That character can work if they're in a group, but that character won't if that's all the group has.
>>289018808What are you talking about?
>>289005567THE GREATEST MARTIAL ARTS PRODIGY IN HUMAN HISTORY
>>289009884>Aizel is built up nonstop as an unfathomable monster who is even more powerful than Ragisis at his peak ever was>Shizuka low diffs him in their first encounter entirely alone>He's not even made out to have beaten anyone on the way there, no named characters, not even soldiers>Countless hours of being demeaned by all the other friends as pathetic, useless, the weakest among them and "a disgrace to fiends everywhere">Eventually he comes back to fight Julia who low diffs him to show her "growth">Invincibility fields are mentioned early on but promptly forgotten
>>289005518>The "Inside" operates on Mystery Dungeon mechanicsDo we have any "gamers" here? Could also be a roguelike region.
>>289019100>the real man in charge of the inside is the wizard of Yendor
>>289005326
>>289013421Damn, Anon looks like THAT?
>>289014603are you telling me that sandro developed pre-initiave bad writing to get us hooked on omega?genius mangaka
>>289014603>weaponised Dunning KrugerYou might be on to something here.
>>289005840ohma likes boots
>>289019395My VILLAIN D...
>>289005952newfag here, maybe i wasnt paying enough attention, but when did they get so close that ohma wants to leave his life's legacy to him
>>289020334Koga just has that aura that people want to be inside him. In all seriousness, not really anywhere. The furthest I can go is that he has Kengan eyes too like Kazzy.
>>289008528kek
>>289020106the highest form of engagement with something is to "create", some works achieve this by having endearing characters that people wish to "connect" together, some others do so by presenting scenarios and concepts that are easy to "transpose" to other things, encouraging theorizing and what-if scenariosbut the "highest level" of creativity is that fueled by "spite", once you open the door to let people "prove you wrong" you can spark endless amounts of fanfiction and fanart trying to out-do you, as some sorta attempt to punish you for not living up to your artistic potential
>>289020334Koga asked Ohma to train him. That's it. As far as someone like Ohma should be concerned Koga is just this ankle biter following Kazuo around, his little "replacement" that he doesn't need anymore because "I" have "returned"
>>289005735"Evil" is on the move...
>>289008528>violenceposter after facing Sandro once
>>289013421Beautiful
>>289012944>tfw no mindbroken ryonafag Alisa gf with a worm tramp stamp
>>289021848If someone attacked you on the street she'd side with the attacker just to see (You) bleed
>>289021881>Oh my god anon, he really got you good did he?>C-can I see?>Oh wow, that knife really got stuck in so deep~>So much is coming out too>Does it hurt when I touch it like... this?>Hey anon...>Do you think you can fuck right now?
>>289021937>Losing to a knife jobberAt that point, I deserve whatever happens to me
is ryonafag Alisa something that only transpired in this storytime?
>>289022090I think so? I think people didn't really notice her after KVP.
>The male equivalent of the term "ryona" (a subculture focused on fictional female characters suffering or being abused) is gyaku-ryona (้ใชใงใ).>While ryona typically features a female victim, gyaku-ryona generally refers to content where the victim is male, usually involving a female assailant, another male assailant, or a monster.
>>289022585How the fuck is Aigis in the "more human than robot" category, she's got more in common with a Caseal than Roll.
>>289022585Alisa if she locked in
>>289022720Pechos...strong?
>>289021317As a guy who has been modding skyrim for 15 years, I agree.
>>289021848>a worm tramp stampwait you are onto something
>>289023124Based Skyrim is great too
What do I do if I want to throw up?
>>289023788Go limp in your throat so it flows back down into your stomach.
>>289023788To "go limp" in the stomach, you must "move" the blood from the "vessels" around it "somewhere else".
>>289023788Flex your arms and down another shot
>>289023788You must use the adamantine kata to flex your stomach muscles to prevent yourself from throwing up.
>>289023788harden your throat to prevent the fluids from escaping but go limp in your stomach so that it can flow downwards into your intestines
>>289024439>Results in projectile vomiting>>289026047>Will choke youWhy is the Worm killing off its own men?
>>289022090It isI'm so proud of the "Green" ones for "scaling the wall" of schizophrenia
>>289026069It's their whole MO
>>289005840Yeah, I wouldn't take my phone out on a street like that even in broad daylight, or for that matter go around dressed all fancy like these retards do. Sandro has no fucking idea what is like to be even in a low class neighbourhood, let alone a slum or war-ridden areas.
>>289011027Metal Gear Solid already exists
>>289005777I want to play SMT now.
>>289005973Thank you for posting.
>>289005503Shouldn't Ohma calm him Mikazuchirei?
>>289028992kek
>>289007889>In another manga this would be a death flag/"passing the torch" momentkoga has never earned it
>>289034050The disciple doesn't need to be as great as the mentor to receive the mantle. They can shine later. Though that won't ever happen to Koga as long as Ohma's alive
>>289034050Not like Ohma would let him grab the torch either.Imagine if after ch50 it was revealed he's actually still in incredibly poor health and the most he can do is pass on his techniques to Koga and maybe one final battle to his death.
>>289005850Me on the left.
>>289005876Why did they enter in the evening? Why not go early in the morning?
>>289005628This is like a video game
>>289034050It's a Goku and Gohan situation, except Koga doesn't even really get him moment to shine
>>289009037Imagining she gets to excited her clothes cling to her skin and go transparent from the sheer amount of sweat.
