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Chapter 228: High Alert

Archive:
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/subject/daily%20kengan/start/2025-12-14/order/asc/
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This map totally shafts Chile.
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>Chile
Already under worm control
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>>289239967
DAMN, THEY'RE ELIMINATING THE WORLD'S MOST DANGEROUS AND VIOLENT SECRET SOCIETY?
THE LEADER OF THIS DEATH DEALERS GROUP MUST BE SATAN INCARNATE!
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>>289239941
argentinians don't look like that
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>>289240023
>2 of the biggest jobbers in the series
>legends
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>>289239998
>>289240010
Oh, it's this fight.
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>>289239967
This CEO they mentioned... I don't know why, but just the mention of him sends CHILLS up my spine...
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>>289240057
did sen have such a slutty waist in asura?
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>>289240023
Those panels of Minoru writing and the wholesome chungus banter are all very necessary to the plot. Totally not just lazy page filler.
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>>289239998
>>289240010
>>289240058
ENTER THE PROG ROCK OF FIGHTING
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Chapter 229: Puppetmaster
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>>289239987
oh, its that guy know for his strict refereeing!
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>>289240081
>this is pretty hard to predict
Well, it IS one of the top three or so fighters in the whole association vs glass bones man.
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>>289239967
HACKERS ON STEROIDS
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>>289240153
how much longer until the magic UNLIFTABLE 40 pounds principles sword again?
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>>289239941
what the hell are those runes?
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>>289240023
They really throw around the legend title like it's nothing huh?
Is Nezu a legend because he got off the boat too?
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>>289240048
Hey you forgot to tell us this guy is strict with his refereeing.
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>>289240023
THE LEGEND KANEDA?
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>>289240155
>top three
no way
And now that the Throower is in KA, i'd say he's not even top 5 anymore
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>>289240191
>just cause he's stronger doesn't mean he'll win
what???
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>>289240010
Getting Christie flashbacks...
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>>289240034
Cursed Misasa
>>289240048
Cute Misasa
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>>289240252
have you already forgotten "to strong to win"? How green.
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>>289240034
>It's weird, why are we on high alert when we're explicitly at war against this supposedly massive syndicate that can just copy people?
Was this guy asleep for 3 years?
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>>289240219
well, kaneda did defeat THE icy emperor, putting him on par with the legends
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>>289240219
unironically yes
so is Sawada despite not getting a public match
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>>289240081
>Yamashita doesn't know about what's going on
So like... what is even the point of him supposedly being the deputy chairman lmao? They keep him out of the loop on literally anything, from Ohma's survival to this, and even the existence of the Worm in general before they tried to murder him. Literally what does he even do?
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>>289240094
Kanedq moved!
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>>289240153
SEE? RAIAN ACTUALLY LOST IN OMEGA! THEREFORE HE'S TOTALLY NOT A GARY STU!
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>>289240271
>two legend
huh?
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>>289240119
HIGH LEVEL
HE GRINDED HIS WOOD FLIPPING TO LEVEL 99
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>>289240034
This is the seventh fang reveal btw
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>>289240271
Daro don’t straight up put 2 AI jumpscare models there
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>>289240169
The legendary AI shack... With "that" within....
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>>289240108
>The virgin carlos staring at fists with a smile only to get bopped moments later
>The chad hatsumi looking at punches with boredom and disdain
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>>289240310
Ah, yes, this page! Sen is all of "us" here in this thread.
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>>289240081
>this is hard to predict
>>289240271
>I had a feeling this would happen
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Chapter 230: Determinate Prediction
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>>289240145
Fusui unfffffgfffgdgffg
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>>289240286
>Literally what does he even do?
Exists as a plot device to explain stuff to the readers when the rest of the association tells him stuff he should already know.
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>>289240081
How low does your opinion of Hatsumi have to be to think he'd lose to Kaneda
I know he has his whole condition issue but damn
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>>289240310
he "stepped" into the "spiders web"...
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>>289240169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kcnsAlBEB8
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>>289240153
Damn,
Gilbert is on some Yumigahama type aging.
How does he already look even older than his own father?
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>>289240153
That's Lolong.
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>>289240310
Iconic.
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>>289240223
Shen is dying via liver failure in the future
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>>289240362
>I dunno what happened, but it looks really advanced
This reminds me of Ohma's match with Rolon!
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Gotta give it to em, the fight IS pretty novel. I feel like Kaneda is trying to trick me into liking it.
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>>289240362
Bottom panel is just straight up comedy
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>>289240153
>He suffered a crushing defeat
>I'm not gonna show you how it went down but trust me it happened
>Raian wasn't killed obviously
>It's not like he's the kind of guy who's so egotistical and would fight to the death despite not having a chance
>He's experiencing character development right now in an AI shack on a mountain but I'm not gonna show that either
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>>289240310
>Why did enter this thread?
>Shouldn't I have dropped Omego and spare myself the headache?
>…Am I really the one in control here?
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>>289240362
>i dunno what happened, but it looks really advanced!!!
is this what sandro thinks his readers are like whenever he tells daro to draw some nonsensical magic bullshit for fights
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>>289240430
Gilbert inherited Eddie's merciful genes, he couldn't bring himself to kill Raian
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This makes no sense
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>>289240396
>goes limp in his liver
Wat nou?
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>>289240441
>doki doki
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>>289240456
How unfortunate "me" your still to "green" and have been caught in the "web"
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>>289240455
That would have been a win for Hatsumi under purgatory rules
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>>289240455
WOW SUGOIIIIII KANEDA USING KILLING MOVES IN A FIGHT IS SO AWESOME AND WHOLESOME UNLIKE WHEN THAT BASTARD RYUKI TRIES IT!
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>>289240456
That's what Kaneda wants "you" to think.
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>>289240310
Good question, Sen
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>>289240116
Kek
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>>289240271
Was this lore about Kaneda's fighting style mentioned ever before?
Not trying to call out asspulls I just genuinely can't remember.
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>>289240271
When was the last time Kaede ever looked attractive? She had such a sexy face back in early Asura.
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DONE
What kind of person finds prog rock incomprehensible? It's mostly straightforward.
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>>289240503
In so confused
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>>289240359
On paper, Hatsumi has WAY more losses than Kaneda
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>>289239960
it is the country most shaped like a worm
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>>289240504
around the last time kazuo actually looked like a wirey old man
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>>289240503
>It's like the prog rock of fighting
kill me
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>>289240378
Bottom panel is me and Xia.
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>>289240499
I think it was in the Gaolang fight but I can't be bothered to check
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>>289240514
>Kaneda debuffs his opponents by giving them dementia
>Sen counters this by slowing down where an old man is faster than him
What is this fight, genuinely?
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>>289240145
What happend to hollis? He looks like he is waisting away from tb or something?
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>>289240543
amai is fighting hatsumi???
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>>289240403
>FACE TO LEG STYLE
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>>289240503
She said the thing!
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>>289240503
>sandro is one of those "prog rock is the most complex and difficult genre ever made" people
next thing we know shen is gonna be telling us how you have to listen to TOOL to understand how principles work
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>>289240416
>i use mystery boxes to direct my readers thoughts
>and guide them towards more comikey unlocks
>you can read my subversions, my endless tournaments and my niko wank
>to accurately predict my next chapter
>that only gets you more entangled in the "spider web"
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>>289240543
What the fuck are you doing, retard
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>>289240393
How many levels deep are we into forms of initiative?
Is it like "the inside" where we can go unfathomably deep and never reach the bottom?
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>>289240559
An unfathomable high level exchange
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>>289240559
Im fucking baffled trying to understand it
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>>289240562
Finally this can be posted, one of my top 3 Kengan OC
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>>289240486
Ryuki is strong enough to defeat without killing, Kaneda needs every edge he can get
He was only gonna kill him a "little" bit, it's fine
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>>289240384
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>>289240543
Cosmo vs hatsumi?
Is hatsumi holding a weapob lol? He’s lost
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>>289240514
>What kind of person finds prog rock incomprehensible? It's mostly straightforward.
Sometimes
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>>289240153
Ah the classic offscreen loss so we can skip right to raians runback without having to see him losing
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>>289240310
Sandro and Daro are fucking with us. They "know" we will "post" about giving up this dogshit manga, but they "know" we'll come "running" back. The "web" has been laid, and "we", are just wiggling "acting" like "we're" in control.

Unfathomable

[Anon
Left during Berserk Bowl and came back during Prostate King's humiliation ritual]
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>>289240543
Fuck off.
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>>289240486
Hey now, he needs it
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Why doesn't he just pull a gaolang and punch without thinking?
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>>289240514
This fight is so complex.
They've got imaginary knives, under Yumigahama rules that means they should both lose HOWEVER they both have them so who will lose first?
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>>289240486
It's Kaneda. His "killing move" can barely hurt a child, please be gentle
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>>289240169
This is still one of my favorites.
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>>289240310
Ah the web is allready woven
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>>289240463
>don't call me cruel
But you are
You just tried to murder your opponent for no reason.
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>>289240503
Based on this the Eddie fight is the death grips of fighting.
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>>289240362
But really how did hatsumi knock him over?
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>>289240310
Two different versions of this one.
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>>289240034
Real whatever reveal of the seventh fang lol. Why even bother making it a mystery at that point
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>>289240223
Bottom panel genuinely looks like a shitpost edit.
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>>289239941
I AM FROM BUENOS AIRES AND I SAY KILL THEM ALL
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>>289240503
If I cringe any harder my eyebrows are gunna fuse
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>>289240310
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>>289240669
Sandro probably got tired of keeping it as some sort of surprise
>FANG LEVEL FIGHTER
as a villain.
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>>289240663
This one is better.
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>>289240662
I prefer to think it's just Kaneda being a frail bitch so he tripped.
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>>289240503
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>>289240169
This was Daro's draft, btw.
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>>289240698
Is Kaneda channeling Ronaldo?
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>>289240672
It's classic Sandro. He just can't allow a scene to be 100% serious. There has to be a joke shoved in there. On one level, it's this. On another level, it's just a panel that shows how much he hates Koga and considers him a joke that scene where he seriously tries to analyze a fight is treated in a flippant manner.
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>>289240659
Eddie fight is an anime opening. You listen to a short TV cut and it's pretty good, so you check out the full version and the rest of the song is just awful.
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>>289239998
>>289240010
Man Sandro was just spamming fights during this period of Omega, doesn't even try to have a set-up like other martial arts manga.
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>>289240720
>Raian with facial hair
Do we have fanart of that? He also seemed wounded too.
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>>289240223
Could shen so it?
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>>289240639
lol
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>>289240720
Long hair Raian could have been neat.
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>>289239941
Más peligroso que argentino dibujando map-
Oh wait.
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>>289240753
Do it*
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>>289240219
>>289240271
I think at this point the idea is that the KAT was private so anyone who got in is a "legend" and only those who were there know what happened, which makes no sense because the KAT had a huge audience of Kengan members and other people until you remember Kengan matches have randos watching them now for whatever reason and they wouldn't know what the KAT was like. All of this is post hoc rationalisation for Sandro's incompetence of course but I feel like you can also argue he really just wanted to write about exhibition matches and be done with what Kengan matches were supposed to be, between Purgatory and some of his other stuff, but we're stuck with Omega as an Asura sequel so this is the result.
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>>289240503
More like the shoegaze of fighting
Because it driving me to fucking sleep
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I miss Karla

Is she ohma’s wife yet?
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>>289240781
I can't believe Sandro gets paid to write this shit.
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>>289240153
>oh yeah, Raian met his resurrected nemesis offscreen. No biggie *raughs*
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>>289240223
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>>289240753
Kaneda will be the one to defeat Shen.
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>>289240338
>Your foresight is better and that
I'm too tired to even point it out at this point.
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>>289240809
This would've meant something if they both didn't look like bored out of their fucking minds every single time.
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>>289239941
LAS MALVINAS
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>>289240663
I love the reference to the Mukaku edit
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>>289240839
Strong characters are not allowed to have any other expression than "le stoic faec"
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I don't mean to alarm you anons but "that guy" ENTERS tomorrow.
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>>289240023
This is the most unique characterization anyone has gotten in a long time.
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>>289239967
LIKE AN INTERNET HATE MACHINE
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>>289240384
The anatomy is all fucked in that bottom panel on the right.
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>>289240560
Eddie punched him so hard he lost his vril
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>>289240359
It's canon since Ashura that Hatsumi struggles even with average fighters if he is not in his groove.
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Kaneda was cool in Ashura because "weak guy who wins using his big brain" is interesting for someone in a tournament but he's too superfluous in the Omega setting to justify his screentime.
Should've been kept as a cameo now and again.
There are too many characters at this point who either stat check through his bullshit or are so far beyond him as a fighter that his tricks won't get him far.
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>>289240023
>the two legends
Sen is a stretch but I can buy it, he went pretty deep into the tournament in comparison, but what the fuck did Kaneda do?
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>>289240081
What the fuck does Ohma do all day, he just shows up and fucks around
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Hylics 2 combat made more sense than this fight, and i'm talking about a RPG with dudes walking backwards while hitting enemies by finger snapping (with prog rock in the background)
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>>289240954
Everyone has the same build in Omega anyway unless you're Julius so it doesn't matter anymore
>>289240958
He beat Himuro, a legend himself.
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>>289240081
????? Kaneda lost to a holding back Gao landing 0 hits
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>>289240562
Well done, "me". "We" posted "it"
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>>289240514
>Ohma just throwing a double hex on both fighters hoping it makes the fight finish quicker
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>>289240145
Ohma interacts with Fusui a lot.
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>>289240153
Has Raian said a word to his sister in the entire manga span.
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>>289240562
One of my favorite shitposts for making me realize this matchup must have 10-0 odds.
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>>289240430
It's certainly an interesting choice to avoid any character development that isn't punching harder for the guy who's the rival to the main character.
This is like the third good opportunity to show him mature a little and each time we forgo it in favor of making him stronger in a fight, as though that was ever in question.
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>>289240245
So Sen promised revenge, what did he do in all these years.
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>>289240403
This is pretty good
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>>289240279
Why do we need to minimize any kind of loss.
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>>289240153
What's really stupid is that this off-screen defeat could have just been replaced with Eddie killing Erioh and getting away instead of Raian beating him, therefore Raian's crushing defeat would have been shown on screen.
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>>289240338
Utter nonens.

Also everyone has Kaneda gimmick now so Sandro needs to give him magic.
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>>289240503
What a way to take a good idea and fuck it.
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>>289240966
At this point I think Ohma is a mass hallucination the cast are collectively experiencing.
An empty husk that wears Ohma's face and haunts the story.
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>>289240116
I like prog rock tho
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>>289241076
Nah, then that means Gilbert couldn't be made relevant and Sandro's definitely taking his character somewhere.
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>>289240362
Someone post the aikido webm
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>>289239987
This guy looks like a relaxed and chill referee
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>>289241044
He's like that guy in Rurouni Kenshin who said he was waiting for a chance to get revenge on Shishio but actually gave up long ago
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>>289240145
Fusui sexoooooooooooooooo
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>>289241100
No you don't. Sandro just made you think you like prog rock.
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>>289240153
>the only way Raian can get a loss
>and the only way Gilbert can get a win
>is offscreen
Bravo Sandro
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>>289241109
That's not the Tashiro I know for his strict refereeing? Could this be a Worm impostor?
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>>289241060
Everyone must be strong at all times.
Even when they lose they were strong and the loss will make them stronger.
That's good writing anon, take notes.
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>>289240975
*the man on par with the legends
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>>289241101
Gilbert exists purely out of fear at the massive negative reaction to Eddie's death
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>>289241141
>Even when they lose they were strong and the loss will make them stronger.
This unironically does make for good writing though but pretty much every single Omega fight that features it is just
>One guy gets their ass handed to him
>WOW WHAT A CLOSE HAIR THIN FIGHT, IT COULD'VE GONE EITHER WAY
>"Haha, I have now gotten stronger. You were strong too btw."
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>>289241003
She looks more like his love interest than Karla
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>>289240153
Wu Clan Super Secret Technique: Offscreengiri
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>>289240145
So Ohma's gay right?
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>>289240659
Riki-oh is the death grips of fighting
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Hassad soon.
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>>289241106
>the
I can think of at least three
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>>289241271
God, how satisfying would it be to be able to just sock one of these old goats in the face.
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>>289240503
What's so difficult about prog rock
Ooooooooo 13/8 time signature maybe, aaaa my ears can't keep up
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>>289239941
>>289239954
>>289239967
>Breaking News: The bad guys the whole manga has been about are getting professionally raped!
>>289240223
>leader of the Worm having a good time with the main cast
Mind-boggling writing. What was even the point of setting up all of this shit since Ashura?
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>>289241295
Well there's that Chinese MMA guy who went around recording himself knocking out the "masters" of bullshit martial arts.
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>>289241123
But I've been listening to it even before Asura was a thing
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>>289241329
>>leader of the Worm having a good time with the main cast
Ackshually, he's not. The worm just like him a lot, he has nothing to do with their warcrimes. Unironically, how this is explained later on btw.
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>>289241332
He only did it once and it ruined his life because the CCP destroyed his social credit for disgracing glorious chinese tradition
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>>289241355
I hope he got out of China and is living a better life now because that pissed me the hell off
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>>289241347
He used pre-initiative to predict your listening habits and countered by carefully manipulating your decisions until you "arrived" at prog rock.
Sandro is unfathomable after all.
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>>289241388
Damn, how could I have been this "green"...
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>>289241198
Seeing how he is a shen clone its more like he has transcended the need for reproduction since he is connected
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>>289240559
The real question is why is this fight happening literally at all?
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Im glad we reached the section where the manga transation into "so bad its good" briefly. I remember it getting much worse from here, to the point it just becomes bad bad again
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>>289241497
this is all just a set up for shen to one shot everyone to show how strong he is
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>>289241497
Sandro forgot to include a small textbox with a quick rundown of what the winner gets
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>>289241437
>Karla will never have kids because Ohma genetically can't get it up
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>>289240720
Would've been cool for all of six seconds but the lead up being offscreen is insane.
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>>289239954
This dude is named Thélouis
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>>289241504
After Raian's dumb swordit's pretty bleak until things get left open to interpretation.
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Connector? Connected to what?
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>>289240023
Where's the guy that likes J
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>>289241584
To the Shen cloud information system. It has pettabytes of grooming techniques.
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>>289240169
lol
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>>289240130
Hey, smoke is coming from his hands!
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>>289240720
This is back when drafts weren't usually posted here so we thought it was a rare case of the draft being better.
Fuck me.
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>>289241033
Raian is the worst type of author's per imaginable because his whole existence leads to shit like this given enough time.
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>>289241605
How small is that mountain actually?
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>>289240145
Fusui sexo
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>>289241271
Aikido can do that?
Fuck I'm going to splurge all my money on learning literal magic.
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>>289241635
Probably like, 10km high.
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>>289240108
>Anon! Take the bait!
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I would spend this entire slow-motion fight impregnating Fusui
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To think, if Eddie had simply bodied Raian like the story was clearly building up to, Raian disappearing for 5 arcs to go train in the mountains, and then coming back for a massive grudge match would have not only made sense, it would have had ample build-up for a satisfying resolution.
Instead we got our expectations subverted and Eddie died for no reason except to surprise us. Ruining all the tension between the east and west branches for nothing.
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>>289241798
Is this a gun or she's just happy to see me?
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>>289240996
He got paid under the table by Alisa for that one.
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>>289241139
Now that they don't have Xia to teach them acting their infiltration qualities went down the drain.
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>>289241798
My penis gets VERY happy from her sniper stance.
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>>289240503
I have no idea what's happening.
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>>289240153
The sheer volume of damage control this manga needs just because this sperg couldn't simply have Eddie win against Raian will never stop being funny
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>>289242037
they're trying to bait each other into making the first move by making fight-like motions at each other
>I'm not touching you I'm not touching youuuu
>stoooop dude, stoooop I know you're gonna touch me
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>>289240393
>>289240403
Going to be blunt - I really like this power, it is a good fit for Kaneda and is a good evolution of what he already had and I don't think it's too beyond the suspension of disbelief.
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>>289240809
>Thank you, alcohol. I'll always be hooked on you.
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>>289242139
As an evolution of his style sure, but it's only introduced because his skill was handed to every other fighter like cabdy.
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>>289240777
It's actually that getting into the KAT at all means you're an incredibly strong fighter even by Kengan standards.

Adam was headhunted personally from America. Nezu was the former champion of another org. Himuro was the best fighter ever for Ken's bookstore company and Kaneda beat him and then forced the greatest boxer on earth to fight seriously.

And all of these guys are very weak by KAT standards, Himuro didn't even make it in and the other three are the weakest three in the tournament. So yeah they are legendary in the sense that "oh shit they were part of that absolutely stacked tournament a few years back".
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>>289242139
Yeah, it's believable enough. It's chess-style fight strategy, where at the master level your goal isn't just to make the strongest moves your position has, but to make moves that limit the number of good moves your opponent has. You set up a situation where you might take a hit or two, sacrifice some pieces, but in exchange you've obtained a positional advantage that guarantees you can't be checkmated and that you can go on offense.
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>>289242164

Not counting Kaneda only three guys in Ashura had foresight (Cosmo, Agito, Kuroki) and two of them were the strongest two in the tournament. Even among Purgatory fighters only two (Medel and Lolong) had foresight and so far only one character has gained it since Ashura (Ohma). It's still pretty rare.
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>>289242220
Looking forward to not seeing this ever again
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>>289242246
two sorry - Hatsumi gained it before this fight, but that's still only 8 total including Kaneda himself but not people who probably have it but aren't confirmed to like Raian or Mukaku.
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>>289242220
That's nonsense because in chess, the best move is the best move, which already includes all of that.
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>>289242266
why don't people just make best moves all the time
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>>289242266
In chess you might try to encourage your opponent to pursue a strategy that might be optimum in terms of material but gives you a strategic advantage. For instance the Immortal Game is famously this
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>>289242287
They're still "green"
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>>289240362
That bottom panel is comedy gold
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>>289242266
>That's nonsense because in chess, the best move is the best move, which already includes all of that.
Not at all. It's quite situational. You have to take into account a wide variety of factors, and in fact, sometimes the best move isn't the one that limits your opponent the most, but the one that opens the position (frees your opponent's movements) in exchange for you gaining a tempo or a material advantage.
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>>289240503
This isn't even that confusing, Hatsumi is doing a strategy he knows Kaneda doesn't want him to do because it would never be optimal (moving really slowly) and is trying to get into a position where he can execute a full power throw that Kaneda can't beat, while Kaneda is trying to respond to that threat as carefully as possible while not giving away his own strategy. Rather than a battle of predicting what the other person is going to do they're trying to predict what the other person wants them to do
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>>289240503
Beautiful page
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>>289242389
You don't seem to understand. What a "best move" isn't based on immediate advantage.
All of that is already included in the best move.
Every single possible chess position has a pre-determined value you're winning or losing by an amount. From there you continue playing the optimal move to the best of your ability.
Making a shit move gives you an objectively worse value.
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>>289242219
The problem is that Omega keeps pulling out new guys that powercreep the KAT cast either by directly standing up to them now that they're even stronger or by other stuff (and, in part, that a bunch of the KAT was gimmick shitters) and these characters keep both showing up in regular matches and having exited all along. The KAT had the boat to establish how many weaker fighters there were and even those were the top cut of the organisation, but Omega has a legends inflation problem and rarely ever has matches that don't involve a "legend" or someone who'd kick a legend's ass, and when every fight is legendary no fight is. Of course Omega is stuck in this corner because it gave up trying to be a bew story with a power reset after Asura, so we're following an already elite cast and need to keep making up new more elite guys to justify the fights.
Pretend Rolon was out hunting worms and couldn't be scouted for the KAT or something.
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>>289242556
>"Chess is le solved game" shitter
Post your stats.
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>>289242556
>You don't seem to understand.
This is gonna be good, I can tell.
>What a "best move" isn't based on immediate advantage.
I think I was already pretty clear about that in my previous posts?
>All of that is already included in the best move.
Assuming the player is of a skill level to calculate for that, sure. But even masters get the 'best' move wrong. Even Stockfish does. In some cases, there are moves of literally equal strength, both of them 'best.' What makes a move best varies so much in its criteria that even grandmasters will simply tell you 'it depends' as a short answer and point you to chess books for the long answer.
>Every single possible chess position has a pre-determined value you're winning or losing by an amount.
Oh no. You're one of those guys who thinks the Stockfish bar is magic. Cringe.
>From there you continue playing the optimal move to the best of your ability. Making a shit move gives you an objectively worse value.
Thanks for reiterating the obvious while also not really saying much at all, I guess.
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>>289242556
what is the best first move
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>>289242689
Nta but obviously move the knight first because horses are cool.
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>>289242667
You're not thinking on a high enough level.
Grandmasters haven't scaled the wall yet to play optimally, it's that simple.
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>>289240503
Fucking amazing page. I love it so much.
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>>289242689
Set down the Rook in attack mode and place two face down cards
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this fight is incredibely retarded
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>>289241018
Yeah, he threatened to kill her back in Ashura
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>>289242842
What a good brother
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>>289240010
This fight is also rigged. Seriously, Kaneda?
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>>289242702
Neigh:DDD
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>>289240081
>this is pretty hard to predict...
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>>289242868
He is on par with LEGENDS
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>>289242897
Anon he IS a legend
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>>289240223
Apachai was right, punch beyond your enemy...
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>>289240676
Worms, no bugs
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>>289240271
You bitch, you said it's hard to predict before!
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>>289240338
What's this now, feint with real intent?
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>>289241591
He died back in Purgatory.
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>>289240362
Jesus H. Christ, that bottom panel.
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>>289240384
His lines are straight out of a hypnosis doujin.
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>>289240639
Hehe, good movie
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>>289240223
The only way to enjoy Omega is to be drunk
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>>289240514
>>289240514
Why not just go with pure strength to brute force it and ignore the baits instead of this?
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>>289240562
KEK
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>>289243135
My headcanon is that Hatsumi is unusually prone to being bamboozled, a meathead like Adam or Saw would have ended this in 5 seconds
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>>289241656
Just subscribe to an app.
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>>289243135
Sorry but punching without thinking is the peak of striking and unless your around a kaolan level striker you cant do it.
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>>289240985
He did manage to counter and throw Gaolang, a heavyweight, overhead that one time.
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>>289240169
>Raian and his gang may have lost miserably and now he's missing
>B-But when he comes back it's OVER for them!
Yeah, ok. Sure.
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>>289240503
>>289240514
>moves slow to keep as many options available, prevents the web of narrowing his options
>moves slow in response to maintain options that he can funnel
Counter-based characters are hilarious. "Fuck he is moving his hand slowly towards me, there is nothing to counter! Better back away slowly and he gets bored and actually tries to do something."
Next Sandro should add Jui Jitsu guard pulling ass scooching.
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>>289243393
>he is doubting the raian wank
You are still green
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>>289243443
All sandwich had to do was let the kure clan have one onscreen hard loss and then he wouldnt have to write any of that stupid bullshit.
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Since Daro claims the Shen and Mukaku were not AI, has anyone asked him how he feels that any original drawing he makes will just be assumed to be AI?
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>>289243553
He clearly doesn't care anymore
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>>289243562
He cares enough to "correct" people
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>>289240503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SlFJf83K-s
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>>289240153
Damn, this Gilbert guy must be really powerful
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>>289240771
trvke
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>>289241798
Isn't it odd how Sandro completely deleted her totally not incestuous relationship with her cousin in Omega?
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>>289243816
Given he keeps making new girl cast manga of varying degrees of horny I might assume Omega being way more toothless and sanitised than Asura was an editorial push and not something he wanted himself.
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You can’t convince me Kaneda would beat guys like Adam or Saw Paing. Guy is Gaolong’s only win so I see why Sandro has to pretend he’s a legit threat against a man who can throw him into the ground. It suits Hatsumi’s gimmick of fighting to the level of his opponent so it’s not bad. I would have done swapped Kaneda with Ohma considering the latter has actual history with Sen. I like the fights but there needs to be actual buildup to it. These guys got some neat backstories back in KAT, I don’t see why you can’t allow a little marinating with the hype. Could have done it while trying to depict Ryuki recover from his trauma. Show Koga actually being a friend for once, since he’s been gimped ever since the Worm almost killed him. Have Koga perhaps fight one of the R1 or R2 fighters from KAT. Ohma farming XP against Kiozan is not the best choice. I thought Koizan looked good against Seki, but you could do more with both. Especially with Ohma no selling his moves.
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>>289244049
this is Kengan Omega, no one wants anything here
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>>289243185
Okubo already reached that level
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>>289243185
How about thinking without punching
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>>289243091
What choice of drink does Keng/a/n recommend?
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>>289244304
Kumis
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>>289244304
Rum, lost and lots of rum
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>>289240456
Hatsumi is too strong.
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>>289241271
You got the Steven Segal one
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>>289239967
The ceo could be posting in /a/ rn(right now)
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>>289244716
The mods would never allow that.
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>>289240153
Wait, so Gilbert beat Raian but lost to JULIUS??? What the fuck is this powerscaling???
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>>289244709
this one?
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>>289240191
AAAAAAAAAAAH SHUT UP ALREADY OHMA!
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>>289243037
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>>289245098
Incredibly high effort post, anon. Fantastic work.
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>>289245098
>HassadCox
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>>289244921
Das it mane
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>>289245098
>Favorites: -50 times
"We" HATE it
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>>289242689
scream "HOLY SHIT AN UFO" while pointing behind the opponent and when they turn around u steal some pieces from their side of the board and shove them up your ass
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>>289245098
Did the panda add the ai_generated tag yet?
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>>289242689
Pawn E4 so I can lead into king E2.
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>>289245308
where have you been the past couple of years
slop has completely taken over the panda
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>>289240023
>>289240034
>completly forgot about this fight
>completly forgot the 7th fang was revealed just like that
Omega did a better job at making me retarded in 4 years than league with 13
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>>289242689
flipping the board
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>>289240034
So why didn't masketta man here fight Yumi instead of Misasa?
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>>289245308
I feel insane for not even thinking of it.
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>>289245357
apparently Metsudo thinks he's more suited to be the fang than him, so
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>>289245470
anon ai generated goes in the other category
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>>289239941
MI PAIS CARAJO, GANEN O MUERAN HIJOS DE PUTA
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>>289239941
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>>289245489
whoops, thanks.
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>>289245704
there's also an extra parenthesis in the title that needs to be removed
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would "you" go limp for your mother?
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>>289240503
>always thought that quote was a shitpost
>it’s actually lifted from the manga
SawPaingUnamused.png
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>>289245098
>>289245704
Kino
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>>289245951
Imagine the stupidest kengan meme you're yet to understand.
Now assume that it is, in fact, from the manga.
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>>289244854
The offscreen hex is nothing to fuck with.
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>>289245734
funnily enough that's actually an error on the original page that i just didn't notice while editing the title. think i'm done with it now, sorry for the spam.
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>>289246505
no problem
good work anon
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>>289240403
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>>289240403
>>289242139
I like it too, taking advantage of your opponents instincts to trap them, its neat and Kaneda is a character I wish has gotten more screentime in Omega.

>>289240503
And this is fun (nonsensicle prog-rock comment aside), I don't care what joyless downbeaten faggots here think. I know reading Omega weekly has drained you of any charitable thoughts whatsoever towards this manga but

>>289243185
Then you just get Aikido'd by Kaneda as usual. Kaolan or Agito could just punch their way through his bullshit but Sen isn't enough of a striker.

>>289240153
>Not even sparing a few pages to show the aftermath of this
Sandro knew he had to let Raian take a loss to set up his epic awesome return but he just couldn't bear letting it happen onscreen. Unfathomable.
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>>289239987
>comic sans
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>>289240310
There it is the famous spiderweb
>>289240663
Still my favorite keng/a/n edit
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>>289240153
This shit is literally treated as non-canon because Gilbert's underlings somehow demand him to beat Raian again. Sandro can't accept his princess looking bad
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>>289240081
>>289240155
>>289242894
Y'know, I think I finally figured out what bothers me the most about Omega's writing. Sandro is constantly trying to tell us what to feel and failing.
I guess that's the case with all bad writing to an extent, but he does it in such a clumsy way that patterns are noticeable and the manipulation is obvious.
When a jobber gets complimented by a strong character, Sandro is obviously trying to gaslight us into thinking that the jobber might win.
When someone says the fight is hard to predict, Sandro is trying to gaslight us into thinking that the outcome is actually up in the air.
When someone says the fight came down to a razor thin margin, Sandro is trying to gaslight us into thinking that the fight was more intense than what he actually wrote.
When everyone shits on a character like Yumi or Xia Ji, Sandro is trying to gaslight us into thinking we want to see them get their asses kicked.

The target audience is people who don't think. That's the only way I can imagine enjoying Omega unironically. By not thinking about what you're reading and just believing everything Sandro tells you at face value even if it contradicts what he told you before.
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>>289243816
I forgot all about that.
Has the cousin appeared in Omega even once?
I don't remember him being present when we see a bunch of them after Ohma's revival, nor Erioh's funeral nor the entire arc we spent with the clan training Koga and Ryuki.
He was straight up deleted.
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>>289241271
>>289244921
Are these guys getting paid to pretend to be thrown, or did they just drink the aikido koolaid to such a degree that they believe they're being thrown and therefore are?
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>>289240503
I like the guy who thinks they're moving so fast they're moving slow. He seems nice.
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>>289240393
>>289240403
I do really like this as a concept.
It's pretty believable compared to superhuman foresight.
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>>289247028
Kaneda vs Hatsumi suffers from the same thing the three matches before it (and also Okubo vs Sekibayashi) does, in that it is filler. The off-screened battles the world is engaging in with the Worm and the off-screened Westward Wu vs Kure Clan sounds a lot more interesting that what is being shown to us right now.
But Kaneda vs Hatsumi also has a unique advantage in that Sandro actually benefits from telling over showing (so to speak) what is happening in the match, and cleverly giving Kaneda the kind of ability where Daro doesn't have to draw anything complex.
It would have been passable if every other fight didn't have overly simplistic choreography where the two fighters don't get to "do much" already, if that's the right way to put it.
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>>289247835
He appeared in like one page when Ohma was having a flashback to when he got the timing wrong against Raian to generate flashback power to obliterate Lolong with.
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>>289247551
>Implying KAT Julius and KvP Julius wouldn't have stomped KAT Raian and KvP Raian respectively
Why does everyone underrate muscleman, he was close to beating Waka and would probably stomp everyone else bar Kuroki, R3 Agito (it'd be funny to see Agito autistically try and do the style matching gimmick against a guy that relies on pure muscle lmao), MAYBE Muteba with the heart jab. Sen, Ohma, Cosmo all can't do shit against him, Akoya and Gaolang get stat-checked, I guess Rei could wear him down by dashing 50 times? He's top-tier is my point.
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>>289247551
Beats Raian in humiliating fashion again and he scurries off to lick his wounds
Comes back and apparently starts spree killing your whole race
Your own underlings are calling you a fucking Worthless Fraudster who should PROVE HIMSELF TO THEM by humiliating Raian for a second time, you know instead of them not being scrubs for a change
Go hunting for Raian just to get fucking wasted by Julius of all people who keeps calling you "immature" even though his whole method of fighting keeps getting proven retarded whenever he has to fight a guy who has a collection of TECHNIQUES to choose from. No Toa is essentially a non-character, he doesn't count especially when Sandro doesn't remember he's suppose to fight using discount Niko techniques
We joke about how much Sandro hates "him" but Gilbert's chapters ooze's an uncaring contempt
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>>289240503
I forgot that prog rock line was real lmfao
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>>289245098
>>289245470
>>289245704
KEK
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>>289239941
Penaldo? JOBS to the average white worm btw.
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>>289240010
>>289239998
What is this meta talk? "Hey, fun fact, our characters never interacted before, let us fight."
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>>289240362
secret technique: slam your head on the floor
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>>289248522
>Why does everyone underrate muscleman, he was close to beating Waka and would probably stomp everyone else bar Kuroki, R3 Agito
The question is rather why are juliusfags so delusional? Julius is the most standard jobber in all of Kengan: a big dude with no interesting backstory or personality, boasting about his muscles only to be humiliated by martial arts. True mark of a jobber is that he somehow never learns his lesson.
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>>289246505
I fucking laughed
even in repost thread, keng/a/n managed to create a new meme
"you" are too strong
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>>289240653
Remember it's a move meant to be used in full battle gear. An unarmored twig like Kaneda isn't heavy enough to make it lethal.
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>>289248815
So everyone in Omega?
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>>289243135
You mean mean you want him to pull off a Shen and shut off his brain temporarily?
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>>289240653
He's a LEGEND unlike that immature faggot Ryuki
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>>289247551
Is Raian more or less wanked than Kuroki?
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>>289248785
Worked for Saw and Jurota
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>>289249229
less, Raian is never a benchmark/milestone except for kures
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"I" am "legend".
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>>289240720
>Raian could have had his face split open as a mark from the defeat
Fuck the drafts are making me bitter again
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>>289249868
You have to wonder how much better Omega would be if sandro deferred to daro more often instead of shooting down his ideas
Not a whole lot better, but maybe a bit better
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>>289240378
>I didn't know the aikido guy could ground grapple
Oh fuck off
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>>289248522
How many muscles do Julius' kneecaps have?
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>>289241271
Ok but isn't the idea to use your joints' range of motion and the pain that comes from forcing them to move in ways they do not and cannot move to make your opponent move in a certain way?
The guys in the webm are shams, but I saw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j8Iy7Gf__8 and it seemed somewhat more reputable, aside from the demonstrative victim bracing for the falls in a trained manner.
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>>289250009
Admittedly I'm just tabbing through so I may be missin context but the throw at 11:00 looks fake as shit
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>>289250080
I see it, thought that was just him being tripped by the aikidoka's right arm hidden from the camera by the rest of his body.
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>>289244128
Alisa wants blood.
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>>289248815
Toa has more backstory than him, too bad Sandro can't be arsed to even remember his fucking fighting style, let alone the fact that he somehow gave the designated meal more of a history than a full-on Kenganvenger.
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>>289250009
>Akido vs Sumo
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>>289240833
uh, you skipped a line anon
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>>289240468
Hatsumi is the ACE
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>>289248815
Honestly Julius is more in the Olivia mold of a muscle freak who is legitimately dangerous
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>>289241324
Prog rock is pretty advanced for players, but not particularly difficult to listen to.
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>>289249556
Himuro...
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>>289251104
I am too tired to copy the full sentence instead of just the necessary parts to identify it as a "too strong to win"
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>>289248524
It's not just Gilbert. It's everything right now. Sandro seems to just have contempt for everything right. It's happening while coinciding with some of the most 4th wall breaking moments we've ever seen in Omega where he speaks through a character as a way to taunt and spit on readers.
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>>289241605
WELCOME TO KUZCOTOPIA
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>>289250913
Where's the giant condom filled with water?
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>>289246624
Damn, now we need a fish with Sen hair.
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>>289240514
Insert Dune reference here.
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>>289240562
Absolute kino.
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>>289247979
I agree all of those matches are filler and what's bizarre is that generally they're better (Okubo being an idiot and Agito not having evolution aside) than the plot relevant fights around this point.
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>>289240116
I don't get this reference
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>>289253786
To expand, the stakes for fights in Kengan Ashura were inherent - if you liked a fighter and they won, you got to see them fight again until they lost. So if you liked Kuroki him winning his fights meant you got to see him fight five times even if he hadn't won in the finale.

That's not the case with omega fights, they don't have any kinds of stakes outside of the Berserker Bowl - and guess what? The Berserker Bowl fights felt like they mattered! Well, some of them did, the downfall of the BB is that there are two complete jobbers in the final 8 (Leo and Myers) combined with every fighter who's healthier winning every fight they're in. But the Ryuki/Koga fight had serious emotional stakes and that was pretty good.
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>>289252161
Lmao
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>>289252478
Captain Picard is watching Sting fight someone dressed in "Aliens" skin???
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>>289248522
>Sen, Ohma
Lol. Lmao. He'd get thrown and parried incredibly easily. Rei would shit down his throat too.
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I miss BERSERKER BOWL
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>>289252161
>And when the sun hits the hill at just the right angle... this hill sings.
>SHHHHYYYEEEAAAAAA
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>>289240663
it's sad how we aren't counting in gaolang anymore
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>>289254951
Gaolang lost his street cred after bowing out of a fight because of a simple wardrobe malfunction.
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>>289254951
wasn't that when he got absolutely demolished by purgatory rules? carlos medel ended his career with one startegical ring out
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Is this the most low effort character bio Sandro has ever written?
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>>289255873
No, that'd be the later Worms with the most high effort one being a gorilla. Like an actual shaved gorilla.
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>>289240169
Oh god I just remembered what this leads to
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>>289255873
Feels like a bad videogame
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>>289240223
Isn't that just... dodging?
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>>289240403
Isn't this similar to what Gaolang did against Agito? There was also another example of it recently (in the storytime)
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>>289249907
Keep in mind that these drafts we see are from a demoralized Daro.
If Sandro was more of a hands-off guy and wasn't constantly shooting down Daro's ideas and replacing them with retarded style-less panels, Daro's ideas would be far better on account of him being in better spirits, I reckon.
He might not even resort to AI.
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>>289240744
What's the equivalent of those anime opening songs that sound good in the tv cut and then you check out the full version and the best part was something they didn't include in the OP?
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>>289253932
Hey that's special agent Dale Cooper to you
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Sen struggling against fucking Kaneda of all people is far more embarassing than getting no-diffed by Agito in peak condition
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>>289256098
Not really? It was more on Agito's end where his options was so wide that it took him milliseconds more to decide. This one has Kaneda do microactions to "suggest" to his opponent what they should do which is usually the wrong answer.
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>>289256309
I'm talking about the bit where Gaolang sealed off all of his moves other than boxing.
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>>289256379
I think that's still Agito doing it himself. Iirc, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, he really just wanted to beat Gaolang with boxing and even if he slipped up, he still tried to do so until he was forced to knock it off and take him seriously.
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>>289256545
No Gaolang did seal off all of his other options when he wanted to stop boxing. The difference there is Gaolang was operating with a bit of a cruder tactic than this - he ultimately couldn't stop Agito from throwing him once he decided he couldn't beat Gaolang on the feet.
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>>289244854
Anon, Raian is the single most overhyped motherfucker in this manga. I genuinely have no idea why people are so hype on him. The literal only things he has are lip service off-screen wins against a recovering Ohma and the absolute bullshit that was THE TRAGEDY.
There really isn't any reason for people to rate him so highly compared to the guys who actually do shit.
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>>289240169
Those are some tiny ass mountains.
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>>289240245
>his hands begin emitting jobber liquid
It's over.
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Can Tiger Niko use Divine Demon and Removal together, in theory?
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>>289258196
Possibly but he's now emaciated and would likely die if he tried.
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>>289241044
Dude, a bunch of people in this manga promise revenge and then never make good on that threat
Sandro remembered that Saw considers Gaolang his eternal rival and gave them an underwhelming slap fight
It's Kengan so most fights are held within matches set up by CEO's but it's still dumb that most of these guys seem to wait for Kengan to set up their dream matches instead of two dudes just goin' at it in a back alleyway
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>>289258578
Akoya has also threatened a bunch of people and has done nothing about it.
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>>289258196
In principle.
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>>289258884
This truly is the final connector of keng/a/n but I know he's not complete yet.
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>>289255873
Does Sandro have something against Koreans
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>>289259627
he's japanese and an ex-skin head
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>>289259817
I won't question the Chinawank (although it's weird how many strong guys with Japanese names ackschually got revealed to be Chinese) but are Japanese skinheads okay with SEAsians?
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>>289259905
Would you be okay with your serfs? I imagine a nip skinhead's perspective would be something like that.
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remember when Rolon was massive and we thought he'd be a wrestler or a heavyweight like Wakatsuki
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>>289260010
Never? Even during the walkout he looked tiny
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>>289260061
sybau unc
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>>289255873
Sandro really stresses himself over stupid shit.
No one cares about Retsudo enough to warrant establishing his powerlevel, but whatever, Sandro creates this jobber to lose to him. He could have left it there, but Sandro felt bad for the General's group or something so he had to specify later that this guy is only average. No one cares about the General so that was unnecessary too. The General gets better treatment than the relevant antagonists.
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>>289262032
I hate that Koga's beef with Ohma may well have not even been a thing. Like, yeah, Koga chilled out a bit, but it was literally the initial driving force for him. Ohma comes back, yet he and Koga's interactions are just... nothing. Or downright detestable, like with the hospital visit. He just flips into Ohma Fan Prime. Even just a tiny arc of him being unceasingly aggressive toward Ohma (especially after being cucked out of his KvP spot) only to come to find him alright and Koga acknowledging he himself was a pretty aggro dickhead when younger would've done leagues. But no, not even that.
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>>289262320
The funny thing is Koga never even learns Ohma was supposed to be dead onscreen, there's a line during the hospital visit that implies he found out at some point but we never see that because it would be a huge moment for his character as initially depicted and the story bends over backwards to make sure he never finds out.

Just another stupid thing about chapter 51.
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next chapter dump is late >:(
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>>289262906
no u
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>>289262906
im busy plapping Xia Ji
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>>289262320
I get him mellowing out and no longer hating his very being after actually meeting the guy, especially after he saved his benefactor Kazzy. My problem is you do not even see the obvious fallback motivation of "I want to spin back on my previous defeat and prove that I not only grew stronger but I also am above the shmuck who whipped my ass six ways to Sunday" or something as simple, straightforward and uncontestable as "You wanna fight too?", which would work as both a homage to the original series and good ol' fashioned fighting autism, you absolutely cannot go wrong with good ol' fashioned fighting autism.
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>>289262048
God I want a cute girl to beat me up and taunt me like that. I'll take the Waka humiliation ritual.
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Daily?
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>>289263761
OP is dead. Somebody post it in his stead.
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>>289248815
>why are juliusfags so delusional?
They are the kind of faggots that think bodybuilders would win in a fight against martial artist because "big muscle > big technique"
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>>289263761
Looks like the storytime... misfired
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Regardless of how long it may take, today is the day of "his" full arrival. You should enjoy your safety while it lasts.
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>>289263975
Oh shit it is, oh fuck oh fuck
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>>289263975
THAT EVIL ATROCIOUS DESPICABLE DEMONIC MONSTER "arrives"
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>>289263761
The Conan storytime seems to be longer than usual today.
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>>289263975
"His"? like, the true main antagonist of the story?
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