Machi will kill Hisoka
machikado in the 'log
>4445
>>289507039I genuinely mean it when I say how can anyone ever bother with this PT sideplot whenever Hisoka or Chrollo aren't in the page? PT after Yorknew has been such a gigantic failure, I wish only Chrollo went on the boat somehow
giving matyi a shampoo
>5 minutes before Martial Law>Chiyamasi begins juicing Yushohi with Muteking: Lord of the Flies>They will enter Room 1009 once Martial Law beginsFive minutes of invincibility followed up by 500 minutes ( 8 hours and 20 minutes) of forced Zetsu. All for a single unknown entity in Room 1009. Is this a wise move?
Leave Silva to me
>>289507334The rest of the Troupe's on the boat so that Hisoka can kill them all and yet we haven't even seen one of them die yet somehow. It's beyond a failure at this point.
>>289507397Yes. Whatever is in 1009, Its almost certainly a trap.
>>289507446Murderous clowns show up at the worse possible time. We haven't reached the worse possible time yet
Hello my hunter friends, the hxh campaign I'm currently playing keeps going strong.If anybody replay with interest to this post I will share the current state of events.:)
>>289507039(You) awaken in the world of HxH as a Manipulator with very STRONG NEN. HOWEVER, you're a weak baseline human and there is an irremovable Nen restriction placed upon your soul: You CANNOT use your Hatsu to get laid (you sick pervert) or you LOSE all your Nen forever. What Manipulation ability would you create and how would you live your life?
>>289507486do any of your party members struggle with maintaining En?
Any reason why they gave Kite such kisseable lips?
>>289507397Yeah but I think the guy with En became too schizo
>Entrusts two 14 year olds to take care of Woblewhat the fuck does Gon and Killua know about changing diapers?
>>289507487I manipulate a certain prime minister of an eastern Mediterranean country into nuking his own country.
>>289507509>do any of your party members struggle with maintaining En?We can't into En yet, we are novice nen users.We can only handle the 4 principles and just developed or nen abilities.
Shizuku is superior to Machi.
>>289507446how is it a failure? are you one of those faggots that always needs instant gratification?
>Oit?Oit Lucilfuru Hoicorro>Her older brother?Curoro Lucilfuru>Her daughterWaburu Lucifluru Hoicorro Neterro>Oit's older sister?Wafuru Lucilfuru's mother>Her poor familyMeteor City's citizens>Oit's first encounter with NasbiyIn a rape carnival in the outskirts of Meteor City. Nasbiy had no choice but to marry her. Rape wasn't an option because he didn't want to enrage the Phantom Troupe>CurarpiktOit's future husband>Waburu and Wafuru LucilfuruCurarpikt's future step children>Curarpikt and CuroroBrother in laws>Curarpikt and Curoro's next encounter on the ship"Thank you for looking after my imouto""Don't mention it, Curoro-san" *smile*
>Nanika, give Oda's spine to Togashi
>>289507580...at losing.
>>289507580Dementia patient in her 20s btw. How many times do you figure she's wandered off and ended up being exploited at a brothel or tied down and turned into a public onahole at some remote village?
>>289507509Here you go anonhttps://pastebin.com/zZKkCN4PWe currently- Found the enemy boss- Almost got rekt by a powerfull nen user- Got involved in a nen ritual- My character got cursed by some unknown ability- Another character received a nen beast as part of the nen ritual, we don't know why it was gifted to us, if it is a trap or not- At last we are revealing or nen abilities to each other- I'm planning on contacting a hunter association exorcist, but my character will be indebted to him
sex with ben's knife #142
I transmute shitposts into aura.
>>289507643How's Ben era sex?
Leave Tseriednich to me
>>289507639to be completely honest, I would NOT mind being brutally beaten to death by this fine young lady
>>289507539Gon's probably helped babysit a couple kids on whale island while he was fucking their single moms
Does any Hunterchad have the Gon-san vs Meruem version of this in high quality?
>>289507588>Instant gratification Please tell me how many years ago did this arc start.
>>289507487I manipulate the specific heat capacity of objects and materials in my vicinity.
>>289507779>head turn "because his nen is so strong"fucking kills me
>>289507446If this was pre death Hisoka id agree but he said himself he's going to play it smart from now on and not run into fights without a plan, the ships fucking massive and getting around isn't simple I'd call it retarded if they actually did find hisoka so easily
>>289507334Phantom Troupe after Yorknew is arguably the biggest piece of shit in this manga, it's just nothing but fan service without Chrollo. This fucker Togashi had to bring in the Zoldycks to the Troupe to make us even remotely care.
>>289507206>cope by AIspopSeriously?
>>289507608I can see the resemblance
I have to say this is worse than the card game from the last batch. At least that was funny, this is just plot threads that could have been addressed at the beginning of the voyage. The pace is not the issue, it's Togashi's attitude. He feels this idiotic need to complicate factions in the story for no reason. It's bad because it feels like watching a film about a man describing a bomb and it never goes off.
>>289507487I manipulate a manipulator to manipulating me into manipulating a woman to have sex with me so IM not using my hatsu to get laid, its the manipulator I manipulated forcing me, fuck you
Oito should transmute her aura into milk haha
>>289507608So are Gon and Shizuku related just because they look like siblings?What about Killua and Pitou?Or Meruem and Beans?
>>289507608>kills your bro>spares your life>fucks your sister
>>289507608Imagine. I don't buy it, but imagine the absolute shitstorm. Kurapika would try to avenge Pairo by killing Wobble, maybe. Probably not because that's too edgy even for Togashi, but that's what would happen realistically.
>>289507992Kurapika would not kill a baby that has 0 guilt
>>289507779>>289507862The "strong nen?" line got me first, then the single eye from Kortopi. Also Chrollo apologizing. Good lord OP is shit.
>>289508007That's what I said, too edgy for Togashi, but realistically Kurapika has a dark side to him same as Gon-san. Gon tried to kill an innocent dying girl. Kurapika could and would do worse.
Imagine the troupe trolls kurapikas chain jail since they know his restriction>slap a fake spider tattoo on a fake member >get him to bait kurapika into using chain jail>not really a spider member, kurapika shits his pants and dies on the spot
>>289508059>kurapika shits his pants and dies on the spotI wish.
>>289508059Kpk know all the spiders he aint falling for that
>>289508059he has a lie detector in his hatsu
would you guys rather the anime return and release well made seasonals up to current chapter, and its adapted perfectly based on your preferences, manga is continuing just like it is now, but theres a guaranteed season for every several chapters released up to the end (if the manga even finishes)Or togashi to get a boost of vitality and shit out 3-4 chapters a month until the mangas over, anime possibly never ever or if it returns, could be shit, shoddy studio or production etc
>>289508122Fuck the anime bro what?
>>289508122Option 3 because I don't care about either anime adaptation.Why? Because I can't stand people yelling.
>>289508084I mean, he doesnt know illumi is a member, so any new face is a coin toss for him
>>289508122I would literally grind an animeonly to death with a cheese grater for Togashi to get 1% healthier
>>289507622>Nobunaga 9This will never stop being funny
>>289507941>It's bad because it feels like watching a film about a man describing a bomb and it never goes off.*nods head*Yep. The card game was great though.
I wanna see more of Feitans technique, I want him to blow up the boat
>>289507622>Hisoka outclassed only by two pro enhancers>still stronger in raw muscle power than most enhancersGODsoka
>>289507622>enhancer>but #9>below fcking machi>shit en>outsmarted by 2 kidsgenuinely what the actual fuck is nobunagas purpose within the troupe, he better pull off some bullshit zoro tier nonsense when he finally shows off to demonstrate why hes even kept around
>>289507539>Yes, the baby constantly crying is normal. Babies cry, Killua.>No, you may not hit the baby to make the crying stop. Please do not hit the baby.>Yes, I understand that you're frustrated and confused but please do not hit the baby, it's not a normal thing to do outside your family. >Can you just give the fucking phone to Gon please?
>>289508239He should be stronger than Chrollo at arm-wrestling. Maybe he's just not trying. My theory is Machi's stronger than Chrollo only because she can use enhancement, because I mean look at her. Tiny and twerpy.
>>289508139The anime is one the most direct upgrades to a manga in shonen but youse aren't ready for that conversation
>>289507039>Machi will kill HisokaAnd seduce Kurapika
>>289508122Considering this arc ain't ending in 7 more years, I'd say no. Don't expect a new anime for 10 more years.
>>289508301The anime is shit
>>289508121Oh yeah let me ask you a question real quick while you just stand there
>>289508301kill yourself faggot
>>289508392I cannot believe this got me hard
>>289507039You know who else will kill Hisoka?MY MOM!
>>289508239>>289508284Nobunaga enhances his speed instead of his strength, so he's weak but fast.
>>289508429Hisoka...
>>289507446>The rest of the Troupe's on the boat so that Hisoka can kill them allHoly clownkek cope. The only spiders he'll probably kill are Bonolenov, Shizuku or Nobunaga, since he counters all of them. By your definition, Kurapika should've wiped PT during Yorknew.
>>289508543What
>>289508284My headcanon is that Machi is actually much stronger, but the only person she actually cared to beat was ChrolloUvo has been making her armwrestle him every night since she was like 2 years old
>>289508302Who are these characters supposed to be? The art is so bad I can't tell. I'm sure you can share something better instead.
>>289508239Nobunaga can probably do this to his sword, he can likely transmute his own nen sword which is why he's still semi-confident while walking around without a real sword, but with a real sword he can funnel everything into it instead of wasting any resources on crafting a nen sword
INVINCIBLE NEN???STRONG NEN???
>>289508592I reckon he transmutes his En
>>289508302
>>289508543Bono and Shizu yes, Nobu never. Nobu has a side plot with Morena and with Kurapika, he ain't focused on Hisoka nor does Hisoka give a fuck about him. Bono is in Hisoka's midst right now so he's probably dead. Meanwhile Machi will likely both fight and fuck Hisoka. Good times ahead.
>Kaiser is the 15th prince >Nasubi final form >morena lied to bork >Nen was the original calamity >Obito is beyond daughter >Wing is Wang brother >Strong nen is not the Strongest
chapter 415: take care baby>Listen killia for this Positive Parenting Tips for the children to have a good start in life—you nurture, protect, and guide them.Learn about developmental milestones, including emotional and social development, for babies from birth to 1 year of age.There are many things you can do to help your baby stay safe and healthy.Smiling baby lying on their tummy on a white bed, looking off to the side.Developmental milestonesSkills such as taking a first step, smiling for the first time, and waving “bye-bye” are called developmental milestones. Most children achieve these milestones by a certain age. Children reach milestones in how they play, learn, speak, behave, and move (such as crawling, walking, or jumping).In the first year, babies learn to focus their vision, reach out, explore, and learn about the things around them. Cognitive, or brain development means the learning process of memory, language, thinking, and reasoning. Learning language is more than making sounds (babbling) or saying "ma-ma" and "da-da." Listening, understanding, and knowing the names of people and things are all a part of language development.During this stage, babies form bonds of love and trust with their parents and others shaping their social and emotional development. The way parents cuddle, hold, and play with their baby will set the basis for future interactions with them and others.Following are some things you, as a parent, can do to help your baby during this time:Answer when your baby makes sounds by repeating the sounds and adding words. This will help them learn to use language.Read to your baby. This will help them develop and understand language and sounds.Sing to your baby and play music. This will help your baby develop a love for music and will help their brain development.Praise your baby and give them lots of loving attention.You can always ask the association to conjure a nen baby for practice.
>>289508622Machi will likely never find Hisoka, based on how Togashi tends to structure his storylines.
>>289508657Gon's new wife Noko will take care of the baby.
>>289508592Nobunaga obviously conjured the crap sword he is walking around with. I don't think there is a blacksmith on the boat and he folded steel 1000000 times. But 100% he can make a Scissor sword too
>>289508676Oh they'll definitely find each other. I don't doubt that for a second. All Machi cares about is finding Hisoka, she's lazer-focused, and all Hisoka cares about is loving someone to death. How much you wanna bet he aint gonna love Bono to death? It will be a quick one night stand.
>>289507622>>289507639Don't care. I love my autistic vacuum wife.
>>289508701>Nobunaga obviously conjured the crap sword he is walking around withI thought he made it out of a piece of a wood or something
How many chapters did Togashi add to the arc with this subplot? How many years will that take?
>>289507039>Machi will kill Hisoka's homosexuality and virginityFTFY
>>289508753He talks about conjuring it a few chapters back
>>289508781Somewhere between 7-10 more years to end this arc. Many anons will die before this arc is over.
>>289507487Dominion of Myself: absurd control over every aspect of myself (self-temperature control Dio Brando-style, advanced version of Shalnark's autopilot, flight and some other Pouf's shenanigans, something like Killua's Whirlwind are merely the most obvious applications of this Hatsu). Being a freewillfag, I'm fine with this restriction. More than that, I'll make a vow to never mindcontrol other people, and if I betray my ideals by making and using such a Hatsu, I'll be heartbroken. Literally. With STRONG NEN, and such a proof of resolve, I believe this Hatsu will be good enough.I'll try to prevent some horrific chimera-ant shit, get a Hunter license and learn all the fun Nen applications.
>>289508583
3 days
>>289508753awww :< that would be adorable
>>289508781Maybe 20 chapters Half a volume for a heartfelt reunion and getting up to date with each of the two. 15 chapters for adventure.
>>289508809It’s more likely Togashi dies than other anons
>>289508830There's an episode of Lupin where the swordsman sword gets stolen and he spends hours crafting a sword out of a stick but it jobs the first time he swings it, I wanted to see that happen to Nobunaga
>>289508864His wife and assistants will continue the story based on his manuscripts, but I'm more worried about me dying before the arc is over.
>>289508864y-yeah haha, we're totally going to out live Togashi hahaha........... I'm super healthy. I'm not worried about dying before Togashi at all
>>289508873>but it jobs the first time he swings it>a sword out of a stickI see someone is still "green"
>>289508753I can redeem Nobunaga if the next time we see him, he decapitates the 3 heil-ly jobbers who are afeter Hinrigh as payment for Lynch's murder.
>>289508929Obviously it’s one thing if you have a horrible disease or preexisting conditions, but surviving to see as far as Togashi writes should be motivation enough to stay as healthy as possible . Obviously you could just have bad luck and die to someone dropping a brick from their apartment window or something, but that’s in the cards for everyone.
>>289508873Rupan
I’d be shocked if Chrollo doesn’t die and have one of Togashi’s classic YYH “emotional deaths” like Sensui and Toguro.Honestly a lot of major antagonist have survived this series. The ants had to die because they’re fucking monsters but Illumi, Genthru, Chrollo, Hisoka, Pariston, tonpa, beyond are all kicking.Tserriendich , Nasubi, Morena are all probably going to die before the arc end
>>289508969Or you could just die while mountain biking, in a car crash, or suffocating on your own vomit after getting shitfaced. Anything is more possible then seeing the end of this arc.
>>289507334Nobunaga is more entertaining than Hisoka or Chrollo to me honestly
>>289508239Being an enhancer doesnt necessarily mean you enhance your STR stat, you can enhance other shit like speed, reflexes, or even hyper-specialized stuff like Komugi enhancing her skill at gungi.
>>289508972Ballooupin
>>289508735>>289508622>Retarded shippercuck troll speedreader has no eyesNothing new.
>>289508976PROMOTIONS
>>289508976GIWTWM
Daily reminder that Nobunaga is stronger than Uvogin
Nobunaga's contribution to the plot so far>spend like a week trying to get his sword from the mafia warehouse>starts a flashback about the troupe for some reason>immediately lose said sword in the next fight he gets in>people find this entertaining
>>289509102>you are the king of a species explicitly designed to breed with humans and create a new species>fall in love with a human girlWhat do?>play gungi with her for 10 days straight until your dying breathThis is the equivalent of a rockstar inviting a groupie to his tour bus and showing her his stamp collection.
>>289509153Seethe on fag.
>>289509137>jobs to a nen bullet that was like 0.01% of Frankslin aura capacityI never thought about it too much but Franklins burgermaxxing is potentially for converting burger to bullet
>>289509229This guy was zakuro or lynch tier at best. He was meant to job.
Which Prince gets the most laid? Except Tser for obvious reasons
>>289509229Nyaruhodo
>>289509279He was kind of doing what Morel does only Morel has like 20x more output
Come to think of it what if Nobu's en is so pitiful because he takes more on a frontal-assault/striking role?En leaves the user in an extremely vulnerable position and drains a ton of nen reserves per second, in hindsight its a better skill to develop for a nen user that expects to be protected by someone else (maybe someone that has a more supportive role) whereas its seems inconvenient and risky for a fighter.
>>289509225>No argumentsYou lost. Rent free whale. You can drink some urine as part of your defeat
>>289509392Morel could make the smoke solid to the point of being nearly unbreakable, he would have easily stopped Franklin's bullets. The lupin guy wasnt even near that level, he completely sucked, my point is you are insulting Morel by saying that
>>289509306Sale sale
>>289509468If you could transmute your butthurt into raw power you could defeat post-rose Meruem.
>>289509407His En corresponds to the max reach of his sword. His ability is some counter striking hatsu. No one likes Nobunaga so he is always alone.
>>289509572based transmutation understander
>>289509572>crackshipped cryRent free, carrion. You're so retarded. Are you a dumb cunt? Post pussy with supA reminder that cucksoka will soon go to jail for sexually harassing for GonHe's much more interested in Gon's ass, but Gon won't reciprocate. How sad, huh, pedoclown-cuck?
>>289509644Nobunaga is basically the En counter type that Ben's needle assassin talks about in recent chapter.If you enter his zone he'll cut you down automatically.Even back in Yorknew arc he told Gon and Killua that he can't really even control his slash.
Nobunaga is so cool and handsome...
I always laugh when people say Togashi's paneling is bad
>>289509859Who the fuck is saying that? not that I dont believe you but it sounds insane, Togashi's panelling is legit god tier.
>>289509859I don't think anyone says that
>>289509892>>289509903You'd be surprised>>289398773>>289399162
>>289507640>>289507486What system are you using for this? post rulebook and character sheet so we know you're not larping.
>>289508781this feels like the spider sub-arc during the chimera hunt, except worse since he releases just 10 chapters every 2 years nowadays
>>289507487Suggestive type manipulation that comes into effect the longer I talk to a person.Suggest rich people to gift me money.By being rich, get laid because bitches and whores lmao.
>>289509692
>>289509993It's a homebrew modification of the spanish system "Rápido y fácil".https://www.rapidoyfacil.es/Ten, Ren, Zetsu and Hatsu are interpreted other skills and give different situational bonuses. For example Zetsu gives you a "stealth" bonus.The more advanced applications need you to "learn" the application and to know the basics. So to execute Ken 5 you need Ten 5 and Ren 5.The nen abilities are designed between the game master and the player, we told him more or less what we want to do with a set of requirements and he figures out the mechanical bonuses / rules.For example my nen ability allows to add my hatsu enhancement bonus to the skills involved with an activity, provided that the requirements hold.
>>289507487I would be a paper airplane manipulator. If Hisoka's cards can kill other nen users nen infused paper airplanes should be deadlyI could use them to deliver information, I could maybe upgrade the ability to use them to spy on people, and I imagine I could ride them the way shoot rides his handsIt's similar to Kallutos ability but with different advantages and disadvantages
>>289510359Basically for the basics and advanced nen skills it uses something similar to d20.For the nen abilities it works more narratively. The game master stipulate how the mechanics work and we sort of roll with it.We are playing in a play by post context.
>>289507397No, it's going to be the unconscious body of Balsamilco lol.
>>289507941No the actual issue is Togashi overexplaining everything as if he is solely writing it for those fans that are trying to pick apart the logic and point out plotholes.90% of the fanbase can either figure out the reasons for each character's decision making or just don't care about it.
>>289509153Machi is an extension of Hisoka's character, you seething spidercuck.She's literally introduced in a chapter called "As for Hisoka".
This arc has so much potential talk that I’m starting to wonder if Togashi views the arc the same way. You hear the Jesus style baby killing, ship sinking, Kurta massacres twist, Kurapika’s rage moment, SPECIAL MARTIAL LAW, Hisoka battles, etc.You guys do realize if even 75% of this potential talk is true, this would easily be in the standing for the greatest arc in manga. I think a lot of you guys are getting ahead of yourselves.
>>289507487By manipulating atoms and creating any kind of matter, I can now make all the diamonds I want gaining power in the world and building a harem.
I have come to the conclusion that the crux or the weakness of this arc is really nen.
Has Togashi went senile and forgot Kurapika was ghosting his entire friend group?? now he wants help and talks like he did anything when Gon was near death?? the hell
>>289510412>>289510359>For the nen abilities it works more narrativelyNot the kind of thing I like, but if it works for you have fun. I prefer hard rules so the game doesn't end up being a "GM may I?" simulator. Can you even run out of aura in this system?
3 more days … can the threads survive
>>2895105272 days 8 hours to be more precise
>>289509549>he would have easily stopped Franklin's bullets.He probably could have stopped himself from getting shot but I'm not sure his clones wouldn't get poofed by those bullets unless they were the really strong and dense ones, iirc he can create 200ish smoke puppets but they're pretty weak, those ones would likely get blown through by nen bullets, but if he made 50 strong ones instead they could probably tank it
>>289507487>if I get someone to sit through any of my top 3 favorite albums and give me their opinion on it their ability for compassion, empathy and kindness increases permanently>if I get a person to listen to listen to another of my top 3 favorite albums their desire to exercise and take care of their own bodies will increase and whatever bad habits or addictions they have will weaken>if I get a person to listen to all 3 of my top 3 favorite albums their desire to meditate increases permanently and their emotional reactivity decreases permanently as well>after having listened to all 3 of my favorite albums, every subsequent re-listen of any top 3 album will slightly increase the effectiveness of the ability as a whole>the ability can only be used on people that the user loves but feels incapable of meaningfully helping after having tried for a prolonged amount of time>when the ability is removed from a person the benefits reaped up to that point stay intact>only 1 person can be under the effect of this ability at a time>this ability can only be used 7 times in the user's life.
>>289510513It's like Bill says, you don't want to hang out with a guy like Kurapika. He always thinks that whatever he's doing, he's 100% in the right. If he ghosts you, it's for the right reasons. But if you ghost him, you're a terrible human being.
>>289510517>Not the kind of thing I like, but if it works for you have fun. I prefer hard rules so the game doesn't end up being a "GM may I?" simulator. Can you even run out of aura in this system?Is sort of "semi narratively", it depends on the ability.For example my ability, works basically as a bonus to the skills involved with an objective. The objective is decided narratively, and what could "break me out of concentration" or "is too much damage" is decided by the game master.Yes we have an aura pool generated from our attributes, and the different nen techniques consume aura.You actually can run out of aura very quickly, so it doesn't simulate hunter x hunter perfectly. But I say that it is working pretty well for a play by post game.We didn't have any big nen fights yet, but my guess is that it will go like a dnd game when you have glass canons.If we are equally matched it will go around 4-5 turns, if somebody is lacking in ten/ken/ryu and overmatched it will end in one turn.We are novice nen users thou, we know the basics but none of the advanced techniques. An our enemies have at least one nen master capable of En, so we are kinda screwed.I think we need to start taking them down one by one.But to be fair I like that the campaign is playing more like an investigation thriller than a shonen battle.
>>289507622What is the meaning of arm wrestling rankings? We already know irl that arm wrestling isn't a competition of strength but technique this is retarded
>>289510840that doesn't matter if Togashi doesn't know it
>>289509549>>289510627>easily the most versatile ability, completely mogs Bungee Gum in that aspect>extremely strong physically, especially for someone not next to enhancement>insane lung capacity, completely absurd even by superhuman standards>always keeps his composure, doesn't make mistakes >beat two squadron leaders and fought Pitou's puppets for a week straight with no sleep>stormed the palace in that state, by his own account he was at best at 30% strength>the only guy to take on a Royal Guard solo>Pouf (the smartest and arguably most dangerous Royal Guard) looked at 30% Morel and decided that fighting him directly would take far too long and instead opted into tricking him>managed to more than pull his weight against Youpi and earned his respectMorel is a fucking beast, I'd take him over any Troupe member in a fight. The exception is Chrollo and I'd still give Morel decent odds, he's very powerful, isn't arrogant nor does he take unnecessary risks, very experienced and cunning and is capable of fighting in highly unexpected ways.
>>289507608I find it funny how you tards confuse an artists habits with some sort of conspiracy. Togahsi just likes drawing from that angle and subconscious drew that.
>>289508301It looks ugly and you should kill yourself for thinking it looks better.
>>289508895If his wife works on it, then the series would actually get finished by 2030 if he dies right now.
>>289510928His nen reserves are also massive for a human. He's probably the gold standard for the "complete package" of a nen user pre getting onto the level of guys like Ging or Netero.
>>289510928Morel is very high level but very reliant on information and making good reads on his opponent, feels somewhat vulnerable to fighters that start strong and fast and actually go for the kill ASAP. Having said that I agree with everything you said.
>>289511063Is interesting that the zodiacs think of Morel and Knov as jobbers.The zodiacs are a bit overhyped, I hope they deliver.
I hope we get to see a ton of new nen abilities once martial law officially kick sin
>>289510008Sex!With Biscuit!
>>289510719After reading that pastebin, picking that nen school was a mistake. Like, all of you were aware it's the most dangerous shit and you still went for it. Luckily, with TTRPGs or freeform forum stuff the gamemaster will make the show go on, but if this was a manga/proper narrative, 2-3 out of all of you would die for doing this silly shit.
>>289510517I've been judging / participating in HxH literate Roleplay for like 15 years! It's actually not that bad. If someone makes a good Nen Ability with conditions and restrictions, and are realistic about the aura required; you don't need to moderate Nen fights at all. Dice rolls can decide ability clashes quite fairly. You don't need hard rules at all, just common sense. Nen is very nice that way.
>>289511235Common sense is fucking kryptonite to number crunching autists like me though. The DM is my enemy and I must beat his challenge and I NEED hard facts and numbers for that.
>>289511100Netero handpicked them for his last mission. Yes, I know that part of it was because their abilities perfectly suited the type of mission it was, but still, these are the guys the Chairman fought tooth and nail to take with him, that's a bigger badge of honor than anything I can think of. Zodiacs are mad jelly.
>>289511221Haha yeah, I explicitly stated that fighting one potential nen user was a better deal than fighting potentially dozen.But to be fair we are novice nen users, it should be relatively easy to handle "barely initiated" nen users.The problem is that nobody was expecting nen master level threats.We are basically against someone at the level of Morel/Knov when we are at the level of Gon/Killua before Bisky training.
>>289510840its just for fun
>>289511287>someone is teaching nen>ergo it's unlikely to be a scrub>multiple hunters already diedYou pointed it out, there's so many red flags it's just outright stupid to go for this unless you're applying meta-knowledge of plot armor and your DM not murdering you all for stupid shit instantly.Not unlike Gon/Killua surviving their first capture by the spiders.
ENTER
>kaoroke as a means of measuring aura capacitygashi loves to goof around
>>289511235>>289511261First of all, this only works if your DM doesn't play favorites, which isn't possible, everyone has slight inclinations, ideas he likes vs. ideas he doesn't like, when you play for long enough it becomes an apparent pattern who gets to have fun and who doesn't.Second of all, as a DM, crunchy rules are good for me, I already have to juggle the world, npc's, fights, balancing, interesting things to do and react to whatever the players want, its better if I don't also have to constantly model Nen interactions. The thing you call common sense can very much become subjective opinion as soon as you get to things like:>Player finds a tactic you allowed once is too effective not to use every time, if you don't allow it again, suspension of disbelief is broken and the player loses interest, if you keep allowing it, it becomes the only thing they use >Player developed an ability that works in HxH but doesn't work at all in the game, this causes disconnect. >Player would trivialize an encounter because of a facet of his ability the GM forgot, instead of taking the loss gracefully and adapting, the GM panics and says "it doesn't work" causing resentment and inconsistency, just because they spent all that time and effort on an encounter, so you HAVE to do it his way. >Players who design simple Enhancer punch stuff builds are rewarded because they are the easiest to deal with and ramp up difficulty for, Players who design complex "one hit kill when I fulfill my conditions but otherwise glass canon" ability are punished because the GM constantly makes their ability not work.
>>289511375STRONG NEN?!
>>289507039>machispammer troon threadYikes desu
>>289511355I mean your assesment is fair, I'm just trying to in-universe find a logical explanation.1) Just because somebody is teaching nen doesn't imply he is troupe level. Could simply be an average nen user using a baptism technique.2) Yeah the dead hunters are a red flag.3) We were giving the choice for the mission, so at least the association find us capable of handling it (no different than sending Pokkle to deal to the chimeras and horrible dying hehe)There is some gm fiat at least. We had our first encounter with, apparently, with one of the bosses of the nen school and she stated that they basically don't give a fuck against us except if we interfere with them, and they will see us interfering with them just as another test. The nen master doesn't seem to be too right on the head.Personally I like how is going, but yeah no campaign is perfect lol.I already proposed to our gang that a frontal confrontation is basically suicide, that we need to explore the other rumors, get more information and basically "trim their numbers" picking up nen apprentices one by one away from the nen school.But yeah if we confront them directly we are dead.Also the enemy teacher evaluate us, and consider us part of their students. She says that we will have a final evaluation (final evaluation = combat to the death to test our abilities).
>>289510840>t.
Emitting my semen deep inside Gon's tight bussy
>>289508238Clownsissies don't look...
>>289511518One of the best bets would probably be you guys trying to get a few of the students on your side either through persuasion or if you guys have a manipulator. That'd give you more info and somewhat improve your numbers.
>>289511287kek yeah we don't even let people apply numerical values to any of their abilities because it attracts thinking like this. Your ability either uses low / med / high / severe amounts of aura. You can only damage / defend against someone on the same scale. Once you allow people to objectify nen, the concept of nen *in a literate roleplay fight* is destroyed. But it also helps that most literate roleplayers like to take damage as much as they like giving it. Its part of the kayfabe. Keeping the logic fuzzy around the edges is like oil in an engine. (though we have been experimenting with using various LLMs to dictate fairness and balance number crunching with mixed results. People REALLY REALLY do not like it when chatGPD tells them they are objectively wrong)
>>289511602I get what are you saying.But I'm not using "game knowledge" to justify in universe logic.My reasoning is with in universe facts that we learned from the manga and the anime.Nen is something that takes years or a lifetime to master.A recently initiated person will suck at it.We are supposed to be novice nen masters that already designed personal nen abilities with hatsu even if we are not yet mastering advanced applications.Is not beyond logic to think that somebody that was baptized 3 months ago doesn't have a chance against us.I personally both inside and outside of game wasn't excepting an overpowered nen user behind it, I was expecting an average nen user that feel disenfranchised with the hunter association or something like that.
>>289507622>Chrollo lost to a petite girl and a midgetmy sides
>>289511580That's a group, it doesn't count, okay?
>>289511393>First of all, this only works if your DM doesn't play favorites, which isn't possible, everyone has slight inclinations, ideas he likes vs. ideas he doesn't like, when you play for long enough it becomes an apparent pattern who gets to have fun and who doesn't.Oh this is brutally true too. Enhancers are deff favored because the concept of being *strong* is much more admirable and easier to understand. But in nen, conditions are conditions. As long as the DM and players can reasonably mark off conditions / restrictions that are being fulfilled no one can complain. There are problems though because conditions can be left to interpretation. Like Chrollo's conditions for Skill Hunter. He says someone needs to answer him after he questions them about their nen. Well, what if the person just replies "bla bla bla potootie", technically the question was answered, was the condition fufilled? Stuff like this happens all the time and admittedly, DMs have to decide. Its a flaw. That's why there is such strict judgement about the actual nen abilities. It keeps people from making disconnected abilities, it keeps DMs from getting angry, it keeps players from being salty. We have 3-5 people who judge nen abilities so no one gets to play favorites. (but even this is a flaw because now you are having to make players basically be lawyers with their ability, its a vicious cycle.)
Total clon supremacy btw
>>289511991To be fair a pvp arena works a bit differently than a campaign.In a campaign, at least a hxh campaign, pvp between the players is a rare occurrence, you are supposed to be a team working together...I think that makes it a bit easier to adjudicate.But yeah, a hxh game needs a really good gm to keep track of everything, be creative with the abilities of npcs and make it "fair" or at least make sense in the fiction.
>>289511673Your campaign is very ambitious and the logic is sound, kinda wish I was in it! I don't think I've ever seen a "we start off as recently awakened nen users" campaign in all these years. Very difficult to balance that. Most of the roleplayers start off with everyone being around Hisoka / Chrollo level.
>>289512115ACK
Why do princes only learn about nen in a week before a battle royale
>>289512282cammy & ben knew about nen beforehand, that's elder princes privilege
>>289512282Because they shoudive learned on their own. Nasubi is clearly pretty hands off and is not trying to directly prepare princes for the battle.That’s on the princes and queens to be ready. If you didn’t learn nen before, then you have to learn it now, that’s what a king would do.
>>289512282The younger ones wouldn't have a chance to. Zhang, Tse and Tubeppa don't really have an excuse though. That was just them being too caught up in their own vices.
>>289508781I'm just glad about getting some fresh air into this plot.
>>289507608what does this even mean?
The amount of people who know about nen but have no interest in learning it is absurd
>>289512562It takes a long time to learn and the average person doesn’t have that discipline. It’s much easier to use money or influence to hire people who already use nen.
>>289512282>>289512337>>289512400>>289512413Benjamin knowing about nen most likely has to do with his experience and involvement in the army. I'd Imagine nen is common knowledge among the highest ranking of military in the HxH world, especially from the old ones like Kakin
>>289508239Hes described as a frontline fighter of spiders while UVogin was still alive
>>289511100Strength wise Morel probably can't compete (except maybe with Bunny and Cluck or something). But I think Netero made the right move bringing Morel in.Pure strength wasn't going to matter against ants.Morel was able to stall Youpi and Pouf enough for Netero to get his 1v1, and he saved Knuckle a bunch of times.
>>289507039>matiykino goon thread yippy! desu
>>289512604Morel is a top 10 strongest human right now. He almost beat Pouf at 30%
>>289508239He must be crazy strong
>>289512604Morel pussied out badly
>>289512618Most likely not. He admits he's not really a fighter.
>>289512683Not a fighter yet stomped Leol and almost killed pouf at 30%. All he’d need to do is spam smoke cones and then smack someone with his pipe while they’re distracted
>>289512578Exactly, even learning and perfecting the basics will take you years unless you're a real prodigy. It's more efficient to just write down the knowledge you possess about nen and wait for the guy with a one in a million potential
>>289512660He was entirely right though. Teredain was huffing his own farts and trying to prop himself up as something he wasn't which is why he got killed.
>>289512282so we can have the kino that are kurapika's nen classes
>>289512740He was just trying to make the org better against sociopaths like pariston and hisoka
>>289512604>>289512660To be fair Morel is badly matched against someone like Hisoka.Hisoka will mark gim with bungee gum, no amount of smoke clones, even if he is able to pop them out, will help them.And Hisoka will go for 1 hit KO like with Gotoh.
how long have they been on the ship? like 3 days?
>>2895127985 minutes
>>289512702To be fair Pouf was a confident retard the whole time before Meruem got nuked
Transmuters are actually pretty strong. Imagine giving aura the properties of sound and vibrating your opponent to death. It would always be fairly easy to fly around and move super fast.
>>289512777Netero himself wasn't that far off from Pariston in the way he ran things like the Exam. Teradein having lofty goals like recreating an elite squad like the Seirin when he was a weakling wasn't going to get him anywhere. Cheadle at least actually has the backing of most of the Zodiacs which actually gives her the sway to enforce changes.
>>289510928>extremely strong physically, especially for someone not next to enhancementHoly mother of headcanon. Morel is reasonably strong physically, but he's not that strong. His biggest weakness is that his offensive capabilities are limited.He's nowhere near as physically strong as someone like Hisoka.
>>289507334Might be worth it if they start dropping dead with some interesting nen battles but Shalnark/Kortopi didn't seem to garner that much attention with their deaths, no one really seems to miss them
>>289512906An airbender as a transmuter could be an interesting concept desu.
>>289512522"Oito's sister is on the ship" will be canon
>>289512906I cooked an Ability once that leaned into aura sound but i made it quite restrictive bc i thought that property was kinda bonkers. Ill see if i find it.>>289510399Love this btw, versatile, poetic, playful with clear, inherent weaknesses and strengths
>>289512604>im not tough at all..
>>289513095His whole dialogue about not being tough probably has to do with the time he ego-checked Gon's Jajanken and almost shit his pants.
>>289513130Eh, I don't see it. That Jajanken would have killed 99% of people. Fighting 1v1s simply isn't his forte as he spends most of his time at sea.
>>289512951>Holy mother of ACK-----
YESSIRR
>>289512906Why not give your aura the property of earthquakes instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17cVfiEckZ8wdf, is this true MorelBros?!
>>289513190>muh muscleDamn, I guess Majitani was strong as fuck then. Now post the panel where Morel deflated like a balloon after Gon stopped his Jajanken. Also, try to find a panel where his physical attacks actually had any noticable feats.
Every day without a Twitter post the 20 chapter hopium dwindles
>>289513274>Morel liedInstantly discarded as wrong
>>289513326I'm sure his staff is working overtime and we'll get multiple posts in the morning.
>>289513326It's fine as long as the break isn't another 1+ year again. If the next batch is anytime this year then it would already be a huge win.
>>289513347>>289513383What’s weird about current Togashi is that he seems more self aware about finishing this series, with making Twitter. Revealing potential endings, etc.Yet he isn’t any faster. In fact, he’s slower than before the 4 year hiatus. I remember getting chapters at least once a year, but in the 2020s its been every 2 years
>>289513324That jajanken would've killed anyone below RG level
>>289512887Sex
>>289513471That wasn't the point. It's the fact that raw muscle mass doesn't equate to how strong someone is.
>>289513324Smacking away Leol's initial tidal waves would require a pretty crazy amount of physical strength, especially if you think he did it with the air of the swing alone and his pipe didn't connect with the wave.
>>289513538Fujosisters...
>>289512951>he's not that strong>was cutting down Leol's waves with the wind blast from easily swinging around his giant pipe
>>289512906I think water has a lot of potential as well. Being able to rapidly phase shift to ice or steam seems like it could be crazy versatile and deadly. Like imagine a transmuter counterpart to Zeno whose Dragon Dive equivalent is generating a huge mist in which he can flash freeze his opponents' lungs the instant they breathe it in.
>>289512604>>289512660>>289512791He's simply not arrogant and just went trough the most insane experience of his life, realistically he performed extremely well against two Royal Guards while at 30%, both of whom acknowledged him (Pouf straight up avoided a 1 v 1). His feats in the CA arc completely bury 99% of the top tiers, Hisoka included. Not saying he would win, but on paper Morel looks MUCH better. You can't even use matchups when Pouf was a far worse matchup for him than Hisoka, not only was he much stronger but his ability was even more troublesome for Morel to deal with.
>>289513804Against Pouf Morel already deployed his puppets.As he himself said, he is a support with support abilities.If Morel "hunts" Hisoka with prep time, so he can deploy his puppets beforehand he have a chance against him.If it is a "duel" heaven arena style were both combatants start from 0, Hisoka will crush him.Also if I remember correctly Pouf wasn't at 100% himself either.He was divided in his clones and also was keeping a technique active or something like that (to be fair I read it so long ago that I barely remember lol)
>>289513748You'd think alot of transmuters would go the water route. Its not insane like electricity to familiarize yourself with. I think Togashi is either bored of water abilities, or water has some unseen cost to it. Maybe making and controlling water is the domain of STRONG NEN.Even Leol seemed to summon water through a gate, he deff wasn't conjuring it on the spot.
Help me out guys.I want to create a Nen technique that turns guys into girls, and compels them to dress and act girly. What Nen type would be more suited for it? Which restriction I should put? I already included one:>Can't be used in trannies, in fact, if it hits a tranny it doesn't work and I get locked out of it for an year But it seems that transformation and maniulating others is actually a pretty dire task in HxH.
>>289510165>keep spamingWhat a schizoReminder that ilusoka canon gay couple
>>289513650>>289513682>>289513724>guys look he hecking swiped a small puddle of water2011 fags are so easy to spot it's not even funny. The amount of water he pushed away in the manga is laughable.Keep samefagging Morelfag.
>>289513724>wind blastIt wasn't wind blast.
>>289513928You'd need a mix of conjuration ala Convert Hands and manipulation.You'd probably need some pretty steep restrictions if you wanted it to be a permanent change. Maybe something like "can only be used on someone the user has had sex with and requires them to agree to the change." since coming to an agreement with the other party seems to go a long way like with Longhi's ability.
>>289513928sounds like manipulation. You'd manipulate their brains and hormones into becoming feminine.
Kagurabachi is back this week. No one cares about this series anymore. It's over.
>>289512887Creampie
>>289514104I care...
>>289514076Manipulating brains and hormones aren't enough to replace dicks with vagina.
>>289510840If both opponents have perfect technique it becomes a strength competiton.
>>289514120you'd manipulate their organs, bones and muscles as well.
>>289514117HunterxHunter is on it's last knees. It's basically over. And Togashits dragging around its dead corpse with this shit arc because hes senile
>>289513943You'd be surprised how much force that alone requires to exert
>>289513887>Hisoka will crush himAn extremely bold statement about a character that has far better showings against stronger opponents. Let me clarify right away, I like Hisoka more and would bet on him to win more than not, but dismissing one of the most impressive characters in the series as a "done deal" victory is ridiculous.
>>289513943Kek its amazing you can type that with a straight face, and its even more telling you have to cope with samefag, because you cannot mentally comprehend your idea of strong has been cooked by powerlevel scaling Ok bro you win, you don't accept any of the evidence that Morel is strong that people give to you. Amazing
>>289514032>if you wanted it to be a permanent change.I just want to troll people for my sick desires, don't need to be permanent.I guess if I limit the transformation time I can get away with it more easily, Maybe it lasts 2 motnhs, and after that I have to recharge for 1 week before transforming the same person again, and I shall also put a limit of at most 4 people at the same time? Creating nen beasts often works as a facilitator too doesn't it? I could make it like, a tick creature that keeps the effects up as long as they are conected to tbe body and the full body and mind effects take a week to complete, with the compulsions to atc like a waifu increasing over time. The tick itself only being able to be removed with an exorcist or by amputating the body part it is in. >>289514120True, but I guess it helps a bit. HmmmOkay so Manipulation with some Conjuration. They work well together.
>>289512597It certainly should be, at least. Even some random shithole north korea country in the middle of nowhere had a nen guy.
>>289513943Do you not understand physics? That feat is very impressive.
Any idea why Illumi chose to stay on tier 3?
>>289514230What evidence, dumbfuck? I asked for a panel showing Morel being this super-strong physical fighter you keep dickriding.I know you're just another retarded speedreader because you came back with zero argument.
>>289514192>>289514271I guess Gon is chapter 1 without nen and zero training is stronger than Morel.
>>289514286>lifting a heavy weight is more impressive than swinging a giant object one-armed with such force the air cuts a flowing wave in halfGenuinely astounded by how stupid some people are.
So we have seen Gon and Killua. Ging is due to come back soon. Gon and Killua may end up on the baby hunt but I am very confident Ging will have a major role in the last 1/4 of this arc. I wouldn’t be surprised if when Gon and Kurapika communicate Gon even offers to put Kurapika in contact with Ging.We know almost nothing about these big Nen rituals, and Nasubi + Beyond aren’t telling us shit. The only other person who knows dick about nen rituals of any scale is Ging.
>>289514274People gave you an example of Morel having insane muscles. You didn't accept it.People gave you an example of Morel chopping a wave in half. You didn't accept it. Congratulations you won the argument. Amazing work Bravo you are such a smart person
>>289514310Lifting a heavy weight underwater, using the same physics you're talking about. And also that wave was puny as fuck.But okay, by your logic, Morel is barely stronger than chapter 1 Gon.
>>289510434Strapped to dynamite.
>>289514334>People It's one guy but okay. Same argument for heavy muscle, characters like Johness and Majitani are also built like brick so what? Netero looks less bulkier than Morel, does that mean he's weaker than him?>People gave you an example of Morel chopping a wave in half. Oh an extremely small amount of water.
Guys, judging the strength of Gon and Morel is silly. Togashi was a bit inconsistent in that area.
>>289514409>>289514357You’re one of those people who’ve never seen the ocean aren’t you?Let alone touched a fishing rod
>>289514409>It's one guyKeep coping with this.>extremely small amount of waterNot really, and again, done with the air pressure of a swing, on flowing water (which makes it much harder to cut than something solid, I can't believe I have to explain this), not a Nen ability or anything, just pure brute force by a guy who isn't even next to Enhancement. It was very impressive for people with functioning brains, but I guess you needed him to bring down a building or some shit. It's far more impressive than Uvo killing that sniper with a rock, which in itself was crazy.
>Hatsu: Maiden’s MarkNen Types: Conjuration & Manipulation(Conjuration creates the parasitic medium to handle the transformation, while Manipulation handles the behavioral rewrite.)I conjure a small, parasitic Nen tick. To activate the ability, the tick must physically attach itself to a male target’s body without being immediately removed. Once attached, the tick begins a 7-day incubation process:>Physical Alteration: Over 7 days, the tick slowly alters the target's hormone balance and physical appearance, turning them biological hot girl. >Mental Compulsion: As the physical change progresses, the Manipulation aura slowly rewrites their mindset, instilling strong compulsions to dress, speak, and act in a feminine manner fitting if they had been born women. By day 7, the transformation and mental overwrite are complete. The effect lasts for up to 2 months, after which the tick detaches, disintegrates, and the target gradually reverts to normal over a few days.----->Conditions and RestrictionsCapacity Limit: You can only conjure and maintain up to 4 ticks simultaneously.Cooldown: Once a target reverts after 2 months, you must wait 1 full week before applying a new tick to that same person.Removal: The tick can only be removed before the 2-month mark via a Nen Exorcist or by amputating the specific body part the tick is attached to.Targeting Penalty: The ability only works on men. If attached to a tranny the tick instantly dissolves, the attempt fails, and my entire Hatsu gets sealed shut for 1 full year.----I guess that's it? I might need a second hatsu to not be instantly killed by whoever I transform tho.
>>289514443Yes I agree we should discuss this >>289514328 Quite a bold take, quite insightful, very thought provoking Yes that poster would never same fag, that post is too good to have the need.
so cool
>>289514473Nice headcanon about the air slash. We can literally see him being very close to Leol and swinging his pipe in the manga.And he got drowned by the next big wave anyway. If he was supposed to be that much stronger, why didn't he cut that wave too?
>>289514540
>>289514524
>>289514563Why is Pyo like this?
>>289514497Add a condition that the more they fight the effects the curse, the more aura they spend, and the less they can reach you, with it building up over days. They can only touch you if they start acting feminine by themselves over some days. This add a layer of "to beat me, you have to go on your way to fulfil what I want" which is good if embarassement is your thing.
>>289514540>>289514551>We can literally see him being very close to LeolThe panel before shows he is nowhere near enough.>If he was supposed to be that much stronger, why didn't he cut that wave too?Because he figured out how to kill him and allowed himself to be submerged?
>>289514563Dumb bunny only deserves some good plaping
>>289514563>tfw no strong bunny gf
>>289514600>The panel before shows he is nowhere near enoughOh so you are being retarded on purpose.
>>289513130His ability is mostly defense and support oriented, attacking with smoke is difficult. And with 60% enhancement, he will have problems causing direct damage. Kalluto's ability on the other hand is similar but with more offensive power.
bring me cammy
>>289514328Since Ging said he will help Beyond escape it's quite possible, so I'm waiting to see what happens.
>>289514637Are you actually blind or are you just retarded? He is nowhere near Leol in the preceding panel and the perspective in the slash panel has the huge Leol much smaller than Morel, if you're going to argue in bad faith there is nothing more to say.
>>289514664Honestly, sharpness is generally far more effective than blunt force, at least against humans.
Will he make an appearance this arc?
>>289514701Do you want me to post 100 manga panels now of characters being far away from each other and then closing the gap in the next panel?And where exactly is this "wind slash"? What the fuck even is that, and why doesn't Morel ever use this imaginary attack again?You're so butthurt that you have to make up imaginary feats just to jerk off your favorite character.
Clownchads... our time will come!!
>>289514669Next week she dies this time for real I swear
grasping straw
The Spiders are way too fucking tame. If I were them, Bono wouldn't have a single hole left unviolated and uncreamed
>>289513324Fully stopping and then reeling in Cheetu with one arm while he was mid running is also impressive and this was from a smoke clone at that so the real Morel would do it even easier.If that isn't your cup of tea, he should also be stronger than Knuckle who Gon admits had him beat in physicals. Morel is just pretty strong.
>>289514551It's a giant fucking pipe, man.If you don't see this as a clear pipe swing, you're manga illiterate.
>>289514865>he should also be stronger than Knuckle who Gon admits had him beat in physicalsWhy?
>>289507487Can I manipulate my computer and make it do nen stuff for me?
>>289514443>Gon is stronger than MorACKKMKKKM
>>289507608>Aniki?>Yes?>Chain bastard lost another year from his life.>Good.Continue with the plan
If Halk really is in Luzurus, that means he's swapped into two black guys in a rowJust how much of a libtard is this guy?
>>289514865>he should also be stronger than Knuckle who Gon admits had him beat in physicalsEh, I doubt the guy who has to engage in close combat to activate his ability is weaker than Morel. I think Morel is plenty strong and would probably wipe out most of the Manipulators and Conjurers we've seen so far. But nen types with high durability would give him trouble, with Enhancers being his worst matchup, unless he can exploit the environment to his advantage.
Best sex and pair? With Anite
>>289514919kek
>>289514889They're both sitting at 60% enhancement proficency while Morel quite clearly exceeds Knuckle in a lot of applications on top of being his master. You could say being a scrapper should make him physically stronger though I suppose.
>>289508161He will know when Mizaistom gives him that info.
>>289513898That ability could only be used when it was raining iirc
>>289514905Let's say that Gon Enhancement potential is 100%And Morel Enhancement potential is 60%.1) The first thing to think about is if their max potential efficiency, which I doubt Gon achieved just simply based on his experience as a Hunter.2) The second thing you need to take into account is aura output.Aura pool and aura output are directly correlated to combat efficiency.If I have a fist with 300 aura units at 60% efficiency it will beat a fist with 100 aura units at 100% efficiency just by numbers.3) The third thing you need to take into account is the base strength.At the end of the day enhancement when applied to your body ENHANCES it natural properties, your strength, the hardness of your skin, muscle and bones, etc.So if you have 100 strength units * 300 aura units * 60% efficiency it will beat50 strength units * 100 aura units * 100% efficiencyI have to say1) I doubt that Gons base stats are higher than Morel2) I doubt that Gons aura output is higher than Morel. He showed a monstruos amount of Ren when taunted by Morel asking him to imagine as Pitou, but that doesn't necessarily means that his aura output in combat is always higher than him.3) I doubt that Gon is near 100% enhancement efficiency.So personally I think that Morel beats Gon in hand to hand combat outside of Janjanken.Gon will pulverize Morel with a well plazed "rock".
>>289515007>They're both sitting at 60% enhancement proficencyUntil it's said in the manga, Knuckle is an Emitter.We don't need to accept a retcon from outside material.>on top of being his masterSo Renko is definitely stronger than Machi? That's very weak conjecture.
>>289514235Would the manga improve if Hisoka and Illumi were girls?
>>289515152Is Machi still actively apprenticing under Renko? Those cases are quite different.
>>289515152hehe look at this fucking retard lol
>>289515220>No argument
>>289514672Interesting… so Kurapika is probably going to be forced to let Beyond go when he inevitably needs someone’s help. Now it’s just kinda up to who he picks.Story has to be converging soon.
>>289515152>knuckle is an EmitterWrong, you need to improve your understanding of Nen
>>289515268Stay mad faggot
>>289515405Yeah, literally the same value as the pic in >>289515152
Borksen and Morena sex panel when ?
>>289507539I want to get Kurapika pregnant so we can get dozens of scarlet-ish eyed mutt babies to repopulate his clain so he quits his chud vengeful life (so I can breed him even more)
>>289515415>he's sill so ass blasted after 4 yearsLMAO Knov is emitter btw
>>289515423In the volume bonus chapter, with guest artist Yabuki Kentarou.
>Morel isn't strong>Knuckle is an emitter Sometimes the world stops making sense
>>289515569He's also the emitted nen beast guy a.k.a. balloons water guy btw
>>289507397>Chiyamasi begins juicing Yushohi with Muteking: Lord of the FliesI get why it's called Lord of the Flies but anyone has any clue why "Muteking" ? I've seen it was a superhero from an old japanese anime but is this Muteking invincible or something ?
Isn't it crazy that pre-nen Gon in the hunter exam had a better zetsu than Kalluto in Greed Island?.Gon managed to spy on Hisoka undetected for a prolonged amount of time and take his badge whereas in GI Hisoka detects Kalluto fairly easily. Phinks even points out that Kalluto had very good zetsu and that Hisoka is just a freak. How fucking talented is Gon.
I emit a nen beast.
>>289515847Razor...
>>289515783play on the word 'muteki' meaning 'invincible, unbeatable'
>>289515278I hadn't made the connection, yeah helping Beyond to escape might be the deal for the curses or something
>>289515122gon is a 13 year old childmorel is the friggin Hulkpeople should not need to make big logic deductions on this one......
>>289515847headcanon bro...
>>289515710I'd like to think all of the shitposters over the years have been just two or three dudes from a Discord server, but I think the more likely answer is that a non-insignificant number of fans are retarded.>>289515783Muteki means invincible. The second anime came out in 2021.I find it stranger you think the Lord of the Flies name makes sense. Why? Is it something that's just going over my head?
>>289509177>Daily reminder that Nobunaga is stronger than UvoginA samurai using a katana will always be stronger than anyone fighting with bare hands, nothing new.
>>289515825Maybe Kalluto is just fucking shit at Zetsu and th troupe lied.
>>289515825Gon had no nen to detect and Hisoka had blue balls, so it makes sense. I think it'd be like getting ready to bang someone and getting distracted by a bird
>>289515912or maybe the troupe just sucks at sensing people
>>2895158250 aura leaked vs making soundvs0 aura leaked vs making no soundKalluto zetsu was okey, his hiding failed vs Hisoka current excited state.
>>289514273Buy cigarettes? Good question
Morel beats Gon but for reasons entirely unrelated to powerlevels.Idk if any of youse watch combat sports, but Morel is like one of those fighters that start fights very slow in order to get a rhythm going and start making reads. Think Piotr Yan, if he downloads you its over.So the thing with Gon and his Jajanken is that its a very telegraphed skill and its greatest strength is forcing their opponent to commit to a choice or get fucked in the ass, which by itself creates a ton of pressure. For a guy like Morel having the time to think and even create specialized smoke bullshit mid-casting time basically nullifies Gon's ability completely. What beats Morel isn't necessarily someone more competent or smarter, but a powerful speed-blitz specialist that just KO's or kills him before he has time to think or get any smoke construct going. If the fight is even slightly slow paced and he gets time to think he basically autowins sooner or later which makes him look invincible, but styles make fights. Morel is like one of those fighters that look untouchable because they are genuinely skilled while also getting a lot of convenient match ups. When this happens people always think its the skill alone taking them that far and never stop to think of the match ups.
>>289509306Fugetsu with Kacho every night>>289509859His paneling is exactly why I can follow all his text, no matter how much bullshit he writes
>>289514842>Bonolenov.>Paku. Now.>"Boss... this is the fourth fucking time today.">I know.
>>289515569killua could push multiple tons as an 11 year old.Nothing morel has shown is impressive within that context
Koto is on the boat
The Moral pipe swing is impressive because the movement is coming entirely from the arm rather than using the rotation of his own body.Try throwing a ball only with arm movement and then try throwing with baseball form and feel the difference by yourself. Generating that much force while using such shit form both proves that Morel has strong nen and that he's not a fighter (which he knows and isnt insecure about anyway)
Why did Leorio wear a fucking business suit to the Hunter Exam?
>>289516025If Killua is able to move multiple tons gates his blows would generate more power than a gun shot.By virtue of that he could kill most nen users by his bare hands without nen.He was unable to knock down Zushi with his flimsy nen.Can we at least agree that Togashi power scaling is a bit dubious? That he doesn't have a spreadsheet with physics formulas trying to generate plausible effects and he just wing it under the rule of cool?Morel is potentially stronger than Knuckle and Shoot.Knuckle as a conjurer was MANHANDLING Gon, completely owning him in hand to hand combat.By transitivity we can find the conclusion that Morel will best Gon in hand to hand combat outside of janjanken.
>>289507039Machi will suck Hisoka dry
>>289515896ntaI think in the case of this ability it's calling attention to the contrast in the title between strength and weakness; Lord of the Flies, Lord, FlyLord, invincibleFly, ZetsuLord of the Flies is also a euphemism for The Devil, through that lens you could think of Muteking's invincibility as a deal with the devil, especially since the ability's cost has a very real risk of being lethal.
Top 5 hatsu objectively >100-Type (Netero)>Skill Hunter (Chrollo)>Chapter 7 Bankruptcy (Knuckle)>God's Accomplice (Meleoron)>Boy Who Shoots the Arrow (Halkenburg)
>>289515896>I think the more likely answer is that a non-insignificant number of fans are retarded.It’s more complex than that. It’s an amalgamation of debate-bro culture and power scaling that ultimately produced modern power scalers. These people developed a method of deconstructing manga and comics by examining supposed “proofs” and using them to build internally consistent arguments.Since Hunter x Hunter has a relatively “hard” power system, it naturally attracted a lot of power scalers. They applied their analytical methods to the series and encountered parts of Nen that were comparatively “soft” or ambiguous. In order to explain away those softer areas and keep their power-scaling arguments internally congruent they began inventing or formalizing additional concepts within Nen, such as “composite abilities” and distinctions between “transmuted, emitted, and conjured Nen beasts.”It’s not that these people are retarded; they simply have an alternative understanding of Nen one that was largely developed on Reddit, then spread to the Hunter x Hunter Wiki and YouTube debate channels. That interpretation exists primarily to support and facilitate power-scaling analysis.
>>289516099Shizuku will suck Hisoka dry
>>289516057Look at this cute audience member on equal footing with Koto
>tfw I still dont understand if nen beasts can only be conjuration or if emission and transmuting are also possibleI DONT GET ITTTT, so what about Bisky's masseuse and the Goreinu Gorillas? aieeee...
>>289512282>learn about nen in a week before a battle royaleThey don'tThey either know about it or don't, nobody was going to tell them about it if Kurapika hadn't intervenedZhang Lei especially has no excuse, his mafia uses nen and he's the third oldest sibling
>Rihan page isn't blank in the volume releaseMy life is a lie
>>289516134What if you have no loyal friends or followers though? Halk's then becomes pretty bad.
>>289516134I hope this is just a list of your favorites because Netero’s isn’t even strong without his obsessive prayer hands training. Also since you aren’t just limiting it to 1v1 combat abilities, Contagion easily clears all of these
>>289516069Part of the sigma grindset
>>289516134Hatsu ≠ Ability
>>289516134I would put Knov's there
>>289515847Zeno...
>>289516134imo the best ability in all of HxH is actually Lovely Ghostwriter and Neon's death was catastrophic
>>289516134100-Type is not supersonic, that's Netero's ability making it so. And in fact it only works in his hands (heh) because every other user would die when praying
>>289516229we already knew that for a whileit's ironic because these chapters would be way way less heavy on the reader (watcher) in anime form as they can entertain you or make explanations simpler with pictures and graphs showing on the screen while the dude talks
>>289516134>Hide and Seek/Scream (Knov) not at #1Bad list, bad (You).
>>289516025Killua is strong > ??????? > morel is not strong That is what you sound like
>>289516359Knov's mansion is absurdly retardedly OP it's actually insane
>>289516134Boy Who Shoots the Arrow is too random. It really screwed Halk over with bad RNG on the Balsamico swap in this arc.100-Type is carried by Netero being a nut who trained the hell out of himself the ability itself isn't as impressive as the old man himself.Gallery Fake and Hide and Seek are both candidates for better ones.
>>289515896>I find it stranger you think the Lord of the Flies name makes sense. Why? Is it something that's just going over my head?Lord of the Flies is another name of Beelzebub, a Philistine god and later adopted by some Abrahamic religions as a major demon. I think the act of Chiyamashi giving invicibility to someone, but that in return the user later gets forced into zetsu and receives one-third the damage nullified during invincibility, represents the concept of entering into a pact with the Devil. A pact between a person and the Devil or another demon, trading a soul for diabolical favours, which vary by the tale, but tend to include youth, knowledge, wealth, fame and power.
>>289516265I'm not convinced Lovely Ghostwriter's absence from The Bandit's Secret stems from Neon's death; I'm not convinced she's dead.
Machi vs Palm?
>>289512906>>289513093Dumb mummer: neverending storyI transmute my aura into sound/my voice into aura but only as long as i keep using it to tell a continuous tale. The motifs from the story then appear in the aura sound like ambience in an audioplay, thereby allowing me to call on nigh every audible phenomenon as long as i can weave it into the story.
>>289508284It's not a theory. The arm wrestling ranking factors in Nen.We see both Shizuku and Nobunaga use it.There's no reason for them not to use it.
>>289516399I see few others making similar points. Obviously, the hatsu is effective because the nen user is skilled. For example, if Morel had Meleoron's hatsu, he would be unbeatable, because of his insane lung capacity. But what's important is, how these hatsu are implemented by the user. By circumstance, you can make a case for many mediocre hatsu to be powerful, when infact they are not. Another example, Skill hunter would be useless if not used by a strategy genius like Chrollo.
>>289516447Me dicking all of them and winning
Is Gon gay?
QUICKLY DESIGN A TRANSMUTATION NEN ABILITYCome on hatsu masters! Design a nen ability for the transmutation type!
>>289516413Gotta hand it to you this is a good interpretation I want to add, its also the spoonhead's attempt to survive the succession war because his ability is too valuable to sacrifice
>>289515710emitted nen beasts exist in the story so why is there a thread boogeymen about it?
>>289516452>>289516541There you go
>>289516533No, but I doubt he would be against it if someone like Killua tried to fuck him.
>>289516447Machi's thread probably wouldn't be able to pierce Palm's hair armor which lowers the area she could initially pierce her with it to just her face ie much harder to pull off. Especially when Palm is strong enough to ragdoll around Killua during the palace invasion.Maybe not impossible for Machi to win if she lays out traps but Palm should have the advantage.
Lovely Ghostwriter is the best hatsu of all time>easy to use>turned papa Nostrade into a rich and powerful man even though he would normally be a random goober without it as confirmed by the Nostrade family downfall after Neon loses her ability>saves the spiders from doom>Chrollo is visibly looking grim when he notices he doesnt have it anymore>extremely versatile, being prepared for normally unpredictable things ahead of time is simply never going to be useless, ever>mesmerizing design
>>289516541I transmute sunlight into aura, the more sunlight hitting my body the stronger my aura becomes
>>289516623There is a robot with that ability in Pluto.
>>289516623>>289516657Theres a robot with that ability on my roof
>>289516121I suppose so. I feel like there's other references that would've been better and wouldn't be refusing Pouf's, though.>>289516142I don't understand the zoomer obsession with "scaling." Everyone talked about powerlevels 20 years ago and I've never heard someone use the word "scale." Someone last night said something like, "Morel scales higher than Gon," and I just sat there staring at it, thinking, "What the fuck does that even mean?"Featfags have always been the bane of battle shounen discussions. Writers aren't mathematicians, they don't know what they're doing when they have a character thrown through a building or creating a crater in the ground, it's just supposed to look cool. People take that shit too seriously. I feel like Dragon Ball used to horde the majority of them but they've been dispersed through other fandoms over the years, maybe because they've finally learned how to read.
>>289516389>Capped at 40% mastery on Conjuration>With 40% efficiency on top of his already crippled mastery>Somehow Conjures a private Nen dimension the size of a MANSION, with 22 rooms and 4 floors>Keeps that Nen MANSION Conjured 24/7 even in his sleep, without ever getting tired>As an "Emitter">Nevermind the fact that the databook obviously written by Togashi during the CA arc listed him as a Conjurer>Nevermind the fact that his ability was presented exactly like Togashi presents a Conjuration ability>Nevermind the fact that his personality matches Conjuration to a fucking tee, and has nothing to do with Emission at allI'm sorry, but those who blindly accept Togashi's dumb retcon are actual cattle.No critical thinking skills whatsoever.
>>289507487manipulating my body into punching really hard
>>289516568They don't, this was a concept invented 6 years ago during covid. Its head-canon that Togashi never mentioned once. The term emitted nen beast didn't exist before 2020. It was invented as a way to describe why some people seemingly don't see some beasts.
>>289516541Cawing Crow: Tell tale heart (GSB)A black and white crow. The white feathers, one dipped in the blood of the target, allows the one possessing the feather to transform into that person.The black feathers allows the one using it to transform into a shadow.
>>289516712Is this beast Conjured: yes or no?
>>289516541If anyone tries to sneak up on me from behind the aura on my back automatically takes the shape of a hand and pushes my attacker away sumo style, but it inflicts no damage.
Is chrollo's ability considered a curse? I know it's not exactly the same but it pretty much is a curse
>>289516769It has to be.
>>289514766
>>289516757nta but I always feel like the beast itself is transmuted and the specialization part is the ability to tell the future, which afaik cant be done on purpose with any of the other 5 nen types
>>289516766This remembers me that you could actually do "elfen lied" style vectors with transmutation.Probably with extra conditions.You could have as a precondition that you will have ten on less on the rest of your body, and protect yourself with the vectors instead of tanking with body aura.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAZXRyKXZQI
>>289516541Transmute aura into a weapon, that's constantly shaping and evolving to counter the opponent, like a bodysuit that keep adapting. Restriction- 1. Can't be used to defend. 2. Has to attack the opponent at least once in a time period of 1 minute.
>>289516785But can it be excised from the person be stole the ability from? Or is chrollo himself somehow cursed with their abilities
>>289516447In a head-to-head fight it's Palm 9/10 times, her hair is like a cheat code for an enhancer
>>289516541One that I thought up years ago and still quite like though it's Transmutation + ConjurationFive Fatal Fairies:I can conjure 5 nen beast fairies, each acting as vessels for poison. The fairies can both spray or dispense the poisons as a mist or jet of liquid or directly touch people to administer them. Each fairy has a distinct personality and require cooperation and even persuasion from my end to perform optimally. I can only normally only summon a single fairy at a time with anymore than that one needing me to spread my aura defense very thin.>Through fairy one I create a fast acting paralytic poison that acts on the nervous system and causes total loss of motor control. The Paralysis Fairy.>Through fairy two I create a poison that acts as a hallucinogen and causes those afflicted with it to see horrifying hallucinations and enter a state of paranoia. The Panic Fairy.>Through fairy three I create a poison that acts close to a disease, causing lesions and boils that gradually lead to the full decay of the body and is highly contagious. The Plague Fairy.>Through fairy four I create a poison that acts as a numbing agent, both removing certain sensations and pain which can allow it to be used for pseudo supportive purposes while too much of it will lead to a painless death. The Passivity Fairy.>Through fairy five I create an expected highly lethal poison that causes extreme bodily malfunction like ruptures of blood vessels, heart failure, brain bleeding etc. I do have to be careful with this fairy as the poison is so strong that even I with a higher than normal poison tolerance wouldn't be safe though I still use it as my primary offensive fairy. The Perish Fairy.>Yes they are all cute girls.
If we ever get to rested Morel on a boat how ridiculously strong is he going to be
>>289516892nta but I think in the right circumstances and with enough information a skilled exorcist could pick up on the 'trace residual aura' found on a Skill Hunter victim as use that as a jumping off point
>>289516597I feel that Machi still has a strong offensive hatsu she hasn't had a chance to use yet much like the meteor city ant battles, maybe next batch
>>289516807Yeah, ok. A beast can be transmuted.So what's stopping an Emitter from separating that Transmuted aura from their body?
>>289516757This was the 2020 reddit thread example on Transmuted Nen Beast. They say since Neon isn't an awakened nen user, she could not see her own aura. I think thats an even more retarded concept then emitted nen beast. Yes. It is conjured. What she is doing is a specialist ability. She has no skill in transmutation nor emission. She cannot be willingly transmuting her aura into anything.
>>289516941*and use
>>289516915Can I smoke the poison fairy four makes as a drug?Asking for a friend.
>>289516972Halkenburg...
>>289516958>She cannot be willingly transmuting her aura into anythingYou don't need to "transmute your aura into something". "Transmutation" in Japanese is just "Change". Shaping your aura in any way is Change.As Kurapika puts it, making an invisible Conjured Beast requires extra effort and conditions. There's literally no reason for Neon to do that.
>>289516955Nuffin, they can, but an emitter's nen beast would just have simpler properties and/or appearance.
>>289516541I transmute my aura with the properties of spirits and ghosts to let them possess my body so they can fulfill their unfinished buisness, in return they become my nen beast with a unique ability they create by themself. If a ghost fails to complete the unfinished business, it will turn into a vengeful curse I can use on myself or others.
>>289516695I think it’s a Mexican thing, around 2017 /a/ hit a critical mass of spics and shounen threads changed forever. They don’t understand the difference between stories and soccer games so they’re obsessed with stats and wins.
>>289517014>shaping your aura is transmutationI like that this is something we learn from one of the heaven's arena jobbers, the one that just creates a giant hand and uses it to kidnap Zushi.
>>289516955The point is that conjurers are able to add reality warping effects to their conjurations.Meanwhile all the "emitted nen constructs" that we have seen are very basic and use some level of manipulation to have programmed behavior.Now we know that manipulators can also add reality warping effects to their nen abilities.So if you can truly do an emitted nen construct with any reality warping effect (outside of emitted teleportation effects I suppose) it had to be seen.
>>289507039-In Avengers: Doomsday
>>289516972Sure once you smoke responsibly
>>289517064I thought they were all in concentration camps now
>>289516915You are emitting the fairies
>>289517014This is why transmuted nen beast is such a retarded concept. If someone is shaping their aura they have to consciously shape it. Its not an accident. But then you are doubly giving your aura its own mind because now it is has a behavior that is not related to its underlying properties (it is rubber and gum). You are saying she is giving her aura the properties of lovely and ghost writers, therefore her arm can move on its own. And neon does have a reason not to see her own nen beast, she says that not knowing her own prophecy makes her fortunes more accurate. So making her nen beast invisible is a condition.
>>289517083I assume it wasn't just weed so what drug was he talking about here? Kratom?
>>289516712>They don't, this was a concept invented 6 years ago during covidIt's been a concept as old as the Transmuted vs Real smoke arguments for Morel. But the term gained more usage around the time Yushohi's ability was revealed and we saw how only nen users could perceive it. It was also a talking point regarding he Kakin GSB's prior to Kurapika's speculation they were conjured. But that's besides the point. Several abilities prior to even his arc necessitate being called nen beasts because they literally can be nothing else. It's ironic you want to stigmatize the Eleven Thankless soldiers ability because it would be the first example in text.
A nen beast is just a fucking nen construct that has a distinct personality and/or a certain level of autonomous mind and decision making how the fuck is that so difficult. If I'm a transmuter and I decide to make the aura in my ass the shape of a fat turd, name it Toodles and make him screech demonically whenever I argue stupid shit on the internet then that's a nen beast now. Deal with it.
>>289507608based
>>289516698STRONG NEN INSCRIPTION
>>289516541I transmute my aura to have the properties of ethanol, anyone who comes into contact will become progressively more inebriated until they pass out, and there's a good chance they won't remember anything when they wake up. I'm able to develop this only because of my high level of familiarity with ethanol, both in experience and chemical knowledge. Too much can be deadly due to alcohol toxicity, and someone with a high tolerance for alcohol would take longer to feel the effects
>>289517173It was supposed to be a "healthier" alternative so probably. Or just some other herb blend.
>>289516541Transmute the aura with the properties of a play/script, like a curse it attached to the opponent. Both the opponent and I get sent inside an imaginary space working as the studio. I have to be the director and writer to make the opponent fight against personalized adversities, if the narrative is too vague it's easy to defeat. So I have to study the opponent before attacking.
>>289516541I make my aura sharp :)
>>289507039hina will be the exorcist gon and killua meet up with to exorcise the nasty beyond baby killer disease
If it's not Conjured, it's NOT a Nen Beast.At best it is Nen that APPEARS beast-like.Zeno's dragon for example is NOT a Nen Beast.Zakuro's blood droplets with little eyes are NOT Nen Beasts.
>>289517401screencapped because I think you're right
>>289517401>>289517425>gon is destined to meet gyro>hina is searching for gyro (most likely found)Yup
>>289517401>easiest place to disappear from the world is Meteor City>Hina and the others went there to meet Gyro>Gon will meet GyroI can see it but it seems too important to be a sidestory during the Succession Arc
>>289517401I thought about this too but I don't see how Gon and Killua would know about Welfin and shitAlso it's really funny to imagine them casually hanging out with Bizeff kek
If it's not Conjured, it's NOT a Nen Beast.At best it is Nen that APPEARS beast-like.Zeno's dragon for exam-ACK!
>>289517152>If someone is shaping their aura they have to consciously shape itNTA but you only have to accomplish his level of mental image once to solidify the ability. This is true for conjuration and for transmutation as we're shown in the series through Kurapika and Killua as well as Shizuku's statements. Adding manipulation on top would be the greater burden at that point and just depends on how good a manipulator the user is. So both Neon and Tserri gave form to their aura on a subconscious level either through transmutation or conjuration as is likely the case for Tserriednich's 2nd beast. But the ghost having an added rule about being invisible when Neon can use her ability in public and nobody else sees them is ironically a dumber theory. It's just like Pitou's puppets, it's transmuted aura plainly visible to nen users but not to normal people.
>>289507487FUCK being a frontline fighter, all the money's in Healing and Nen Exorcism. >Hatsu: Doctor's Orders>After an explanation of my ability, exchange of goods for my services and a handshake, Target enters a forced Zetsu state and is enveloped by a healing Aura that slowly closes wounds and even regrows limbs, albeit very slowly. It may take a couple weeks.>Target, with some effort, can break out of this forced Zetsu state and regain control of their Nen, but doing so will permanently dispel the healing Aura and ability will have to be manually reapplied. >Nen Curses are placed in a dormant state and slowly shrivel up and shrink over the course of weeks. If the ability is ended early, they turn particularly hostile upon first waking.I get protection from a big organization like the Hunters and I live my life in luxury. If some cocksucker like Chrollo tries to steal my ability or kidnap me for personal use I'll hire the Zoldycks to turn their asshole inside out (while I watch btw)
>>289517220Kinda bugs me that the "stinger ball" ability has never been confirmed if it was actually materialization.
>>289517479Honestly, transmuting the aura with the properties or attributes of the real life animals seems easier than conjuring a whole ass nen beast. Like, if I transmute my aura into the shape of a wolf with its natural capabilities, is that a nen beast? Or not?
>>289517220I know most of that anon, unfortunately I've read the threads so I can understand the argument better. Its the clarification that is the problem. I have no problem with nen beasts. I have a problem with emitted nen beasts.11 heroes are balloons filled with aura. They have some automation but to call them a beast is such a stretch. They aren't even fully made out of nen. From their first depiction they literally deflated when lupin turned them off. No changes happened to their shell that suggests they were anything but balloons. Its like if the Order Stam guy put order stamp on a doll. You would not consider that a nen beast. 11 heroes is no different.
>>289517555A true hunterscholar knows Conjuration when he see it. The Stinger Ball is conjured.
>Emitted and Transmuted nen beast >Has defined ability and no aura of its own.>Conjured nen beast>Has its own nen ability and aura.There.
>>289517581>Like, if I transmute my aura into the shape of a wolf with its natural capabilities, is that a nen beast? Or not?My understanding is that a nen beast is a nen construct that can have mind and decision making of its own and that aura that is separated from the body immediately enters the realm of emission, so if you take a chunk of your aura, shape it like a wolf and make sure it can do things on its own (it has a timid personality so it may not attack if feeling too threatened, for example) but its also not separated from your body (like it comes from your arm or something, think lovely ghostwriter) then it makes sense to me.
>Netero's buddha is conjured because... It just is ok?
>>289517609Crazy slots doesnt have an ability of its own, it just talks shit nonstop. You're mistaking guardian nen beasts from the urn which are uniquely strong due to how elaborate the nen ritual that gives them life is.
>>289508781Not much. We won't follow them, at some point Kurapika will get a phone call, they tell him they found out Wobble is on the boat, we do n'y see them until next arc.
>>289517597Is he left handed? This is the easiest tell
>>289517680Crazy slots have multiples abilities, one of the lost grants reincarnation powers, wtf are you talking about?
>>289517680iirc Crazy slots is conjuration, right? So is the urn ceremony. I might be completely wrong.
>>289517581Simple Transmuted aura, once separated from the user, won't last for any significant amount of time without Vows and Limitations to compensate.The goal of creating an attack dog, Conjuration accomplishes this FAR more efficiently.At the end of it all, the Transmuted Nen would NOT be a Nen Beast. Refer to Zeno's Dragon.
I don't get it why did Netero conjure a skeleton here???
Grandpa's Dragon Dive?!
>>289515860The exact function of the curses is very mysterious as well… I could see it being something that compels the bearer into committing acts for beyond, even if it’s one time use. There’s so many possiblities there only thing I know for certain is Furikov is lying about them
>>289517713those are all the same ability, crazy slots is just a bunch of weapons and having an annoying intermediary that randomizes the weapon is just conditions to make it stronger
>>289517749He was emitting it.
>>289517718No you're right, both are conjured. The urn beasts in particular seem completely impossible to do in any nen type other than conjuration, even.
>>289517778every weapon have a special propertyif you want to call it "one ability" it's okeybut the point remain, conjured things have reality warping propertieswe don't have any example of emitted construct being able to have reality warping propertieswe know now that manipulators can pull off reality warping tricks thou
>>289517491I can't really argue with most of that. I can't explain how Neon and Tse's ability work besides saying its some crazy specialist stuff. I'll admit, yes, its possible to frame her ability in a way that explains it.
>>289517670Kek >why yes, this is an Enhanced Nen Statue. How could you not tell?
>>289517830All true. I wish Togashi made more manipulation abilities that feel as bullshit haxx as last chapter's ability. Feels very unexplored.
I transmute my aura into a better nen type and I cry.
Mito
>>289517581Anon you have to think of the implication that you can make your aura autonomous. It doesn't make sense. It would be funny though.
Netero's buddha is way too complex to be emitted. It's a conjured construct and he likely uses enhancement to just make it hit way harder than it normally would.
>>289513938>the seething schizophrenic was a fujo off of percocetHuh. You learn something new every day.
>>289517949It's actually the kurapika x machi schizo, he just uses illumi for his anti-clown shitposting
can't wait to see her and Gon learn nen together
>>289517929Emitter abilities can be complex though? For example when I complete a ritual where I move the skin of my penis up and down (uncircumcised btw) I start emitting a strange liquid that actually has the potential to spawn an entire human being, which is an incredibly complex construct
brainlets really think that nen types are like pokemon types and an not in universe way of route memorization for techniques
>>289518004Oooooooh. I see.
>>289518015>t. Enhancer
Who are the YouTubers you guys like to watch on this stuff? I like that ExtraOtter guy
>>289518015but nen type affinities exist thouexcept for specialists lol
Fugetsu's guards, Ryoji and Bachaem, will they do anything?Yuhirai and Shedule, where are they?Slakka must be reporting the claim of Woble's eligibility to Duazul right? What then?Will Rihan have deductive progress on Tsveppa's GSB when next we see him?
>>289518049Overthinker is decent though he was one of the main people entertaining the idea of emitted nen beasts
>>289518055 yes and nen types are a rationalization to help understand how a person's nature makes them more likely to be effective at a certain technique. there's no such thing as "this thing is made out of conjuration nen" it is just nen.
Ehem can we talk about NEN SCRIPTGive me your best headcannons on how it works... Or it will never be developed by Togashi?
>>289518098you are trying to force "mage the ascension" interpretation into nen, except that nen works more like "mage the awakening"nen types are not just rotes / paradigmsthe nen affinities are real and can produce different effectsof course all of this with a caveat, "apparently"
>>289518049I don't.
>>289518105>Language of the gatekeepers at the Dark Continent
>>289518062>no>getting ready to carry a body>Kurapika is never wrong>next week I’ll think
>>289517537>and a handshakeIf both my arms have been destroyed, am I shit out of luck?
>>289518015>Hatsu: Pokemania>Assigns everyone random pokemon types to their Aura, including the user. These shuffle every day.>Initial hit from User and against User will reflect type effectiveness (Super Eff, Not Very Eff, Immune). >User always has a 4.17% chance to "Critical Hit" any attack imbued with Nen.>User has a 4.17% to be "Critical Hit" by any enemy attack imbued with Nen.
>>289517949You're both faggots desu
>>289518049SuccWarCentral. Because I'm a dirty chaser waiting to see that guy lose his mind. It's real life kino.
>>289518126Lmaoooo this is exactly why I’m askingSome of these people have a certain self importance I can’t standUsually you can tell but always could absorb more of this shit around a drop
>>289517401Woble is on board. Gon and Killua aren't going to go look for her. Her sister didn't go to Meteor City. There's not enough time for them to send a letter to tell Kurapika they saved Woble. None of them know about Hina. The Hunter Association has their own exorcists. It's never even been established that the princes have something on them that can be removed thanks to the curse - and they have two people cursing them. But the Beyond babies probably aren't even actually cursing the princes because that's a terrible strategy and doesn't exactly add up Nen-wise.So...no.>>289517424No, they said Nen beasts are usually Conjured. You could argue Zeno's dragon is a Nen beast.
>>289518183Any good hunter tuber?
>>289518190>You could argue Zeno's dragon is a Nen beast featherless biped type arguments
>>289516541Copper Hemispheres: Horror VacuiThe user's aura forms a sphere within which he/she can change the aura's density, causing either a vacuum or immense pressure to form.A Transmuter has poor Emission so it's difficult to control the size of the sphere and precisely adjust the pressure. Maximum distance from the user is also very limited.
What's next? Each lance of Dragon Dive is a nen beast?
>>289518183By "I don't.", I mean I don't watch any hxh tubers at all. I know zero about this otter tuber.
>>289515569Killua said Morel and Knov were stronger than Hisoka and Illumi.
>>289518190You strictly cannot argue Zeno's ability is a nen beast. This is why emitted nen beast needs to be banished as an idea. The reason why is because:Zeno's ability is never once called a "spirit beast" in Japanese despite its screen time. Its always referred to as "shaped aura."
>>289518166Yea no you can tell the brain is fried from the content
>>289518190If Zeno's dragon is a Nen Beast then Kurapika transmuting the aura at the tip of his finger into the number 4 is a Nen Beast
>>289518145A handshake...comes from the heart... (someone else can serve as their 'Guardian' for the purposes of my ability)
>>289518147>faggotsstrange way to spell Kurapika
>>289518252Sorry I thought you had a sense of humor
>>289518261hunterscholarchad... I kneel...
>>289518247Holy FUARK this guy can make Nen Beasts on the spot...
>>289518261So it’s transmuted
Oh my gawd bro it's not that difficult to understand. only conjured nen beasts have abilities. Transmuted and emitted nen beasts are an extension of the nen users ability.
>>289516134Rubber and Gum remains undefeated.
>>289518247I think what defines a nen beast is it's autonomy and the fact that as a conjured thing it can have all the reality warping properties a conjurer can impose (we don't know yet if emitters can do any of that outside of spatial control and teleportation).It doesn't need to be controlled by aura manipulation because the nen beast has been conjured to be a THING that resembles a living being and/or have an established behavior, so its behavior is inherent to its creation.Emitted nen constructs on the other side seem to always need manipulation to give them preprogramed behavior and have very basic behavior. Also they seem to need a physical medium to be able to have physical properties.Of course this open a lot of questions for example, mixing both emission and conjuration to have an hybrid of both things or whatever.
My god you guys are nerds.
>>289518321Against children and retards, yes.
>>289517862Once you find Emission and Transmutation on the Nen chart it will blow your mind.
100-Type is Emission.
>>289518336SCHOLARS*
>>289518311yes kek, Zeno is probably the only time in the whole story someone unironically transmutes, then emits, then manipulates their aura.
>>289518336Bro you missed the “who’s stronger Gon or morel” arguements from earlier That was some dweeb ass shit
>>289517581It depends. A Conjured animal would have more mobility. I think Conjuration also doesn't mind superfluous details, but Transmutation does. If you're going to Transmute a bunny-shaped ball of aura, you have to actually imagine all the curves and lumps of a real bunny - but why? Normal people can't see it, Nen users can see it's not real. It makes more sense to just Transmute the parts of the animal that's actually useful. Meanwhile, with Conjuration, making a whole-ass animal isn't as big of a deal because that's already in your head. You don't have animal parts in your head, you have the whole animal in your head, so just shit out the whole animal, right? But Transmutation is more about stimulus. Maybe if you're someone who spends hours a day rubbing animals all over, but otherwise it makes more sense to Transmute aura claws and fangs, like Zeno.>>289517929It's Conjured because Togashi draws it that way. If something's just aura, Togashi intentionally draws it with erratic borders and no inner details. Look at Zeno's dragon, Pokkle's bow, Halkenburg's bow, etc.
>>289518375I missed nothing then.
>>289518366it has absolutely no hallmarks of any emitted ability
>>289518393Nah it was pretty geek just like this
>>289518381>It's Conjured because Togashi draws it that way. If something's just aura, Togashi intentionally draws it with erratic borders and no inner details. Look at Zeno's dragon, Pokkle's bow, Halkenburg's bow, etc.That's a sound argument.The counter argument is that it could have been an stylistic choice and just that.Neon ghost writer looks like a ghost, could be conjured, emitted, or whatever, he didn't draw it as a ball of aura but Neon is specialist.The main argument in favor of emitted/transmuted statue is the fact that Netero gains nothing from a conjured statue.It breaks what we know about nen masters.If I can achieve something with my strong masteries why do it with my worst category?
>>289518394See you guys are getting held up on the statue. Everyone knows you can’t enhance a statue. You would have to emit that. He’s enhancing his aura to god like levels so his aura becomes godly. He thing with 1000 arms or whatever isn’t even there Togashi just draws it cause it looks cool
>>289518394It comes out of a portal in the fucking air, like Knov's does. Watch the scene where he bitch slaps Pitou out of the sky.
You know, when you get down to the brass tacks of it, a manipulated person is basically a nen beast. Think about it.
>>289518456>I enhanced the space, a god is there now>space is better than it was before >enhancement
>>289518418>If I can achieve something with my strong masteries why do it with my worst category?THIS ALSO BREAKS THE CONCEPT OF NEN CATEGORIES!!!!>hehhehe i want to summon a giant statue but i cant>SO WHAT IF I JUST TRANSMUTE MY AURA INTO IT HAVING SOLID PROPERTIES, THEN MANIPULATE IT SO IT LOOKS SOLID, THEN I EMIT IT? >GET OWNED NEN CATEGORIES, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS MAKING ME LOSE 80% OF MY PROFICENCY INSTEAD OF JUST 40%
>nen BEAST nen BEAST nen BEAST nen BEAST nen BEAST nen BEAST...but enough about Hisoka.
>>289518261>>289518275Okay, then tell us what a non-Conjured Nen beast is.>>289518418Conjuring an object with no special abilities is easy. Why would he Emit and Transmute an entire statue that just stands there? You're not Emitting/Transmuting something you aren't going to use, that's a waste of aura. But Conjuration doesn't care about that. That's why Kurapika has a mile long fucking chain wrapped around his arm and it's around his fingers every time. He just blips it in and out of existence. The hallmark of a high level Conjurer is the special effects their Conjured objects have. Netero's has none, because he's an Enhancer.
Three nen users conjure a nen beast.>Emitter says>My nen beast can do things I allow it to do, as my natural ability of emission can allow it.>Transmuter says >My nen beast can have the capabilities of the creature I'm forming with my nen.>Conjurer says>My nen beast has a will of it's own and it has an nen ability of its own.
>>289516541My aura has the properties of diamond. As long as I do not start a fight, my diamond has immense durabilityCondition 1: I can not be the person to start a fightCondition 2: My aura must have touched a piece of diamond within the last 2 minutes.Restriction 1: I can only shape my diamond into shells, hollowed out cubes, hollowed out spheres, swords, walls, shields, nets, muzzle, and handcuffs or else it will be brittle.Restriction 2: My diamond has a reach that's twice the distance as my En.Restriction 3: My diamond aura can only be hidden with In when I rub one of my diamonds with my fingersVow 1: I will only kill wild animals that attack me.Vow 2: I will only kill creatures that have a bountyVow 3: I will only kill someone if they killed another living creature in my presence.Punishment: If I break any of my vows, I will be forced into a state of Zetsu for a year.
>>289518512>Okay, then tell us what a non-Conjured Nen beast is.it basically doesn't exist. We haven't seen one yet. And if we have, its some extreme specialist fuckery.
>>289518496>hehhehe i want to summon a giant statue but i cant>SO WHAT IF I JUST TRANSMUTE MY AURA INTO IT HAVING SOLID PROPERTIES, THEN MANIPULATE IT SO IT LOOKS SOLID, THEN I EMIT IT?>GET OWNED NEN CATEGORIES, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS MAKING ME LOSE 80% OF MY PROFICENCY INSTEAD OF JUST 40%I don't understand why you find this ridiculous.Projected aura and a materialized object are not the same.Is not a "hack".Conjurers don't creat things to bash their oponnents, they take advantage of being able to produce objects with reality warping abilities.All conjured objects do weird shit.The statue would be the example of the first conjured thing that exist only for dunga dunga damage.I mean maybe... But I think that emitting your aura and giving it solid properties allows you to have a range attack without the need to use your worse category desu.
>>289518561By the way, there is one transmuter that does something like this.The heaven arena dude with no arms can trasmute his aura into a hand, and use it to strangle people.But it is a short range attack. In order to separate the aura far away from his body he would need to add some emission me believe.
>>289518561>>289518576By the way I'm on the fence on this, I'm not that married to my idea on this subject desu.
>>289518512>non-Conjured>Nen Beastrefer to>>289517424
>>289518576nta but I think someday we'll see a Transmuter uses use a Conjured object or beast as an anchor for nen storage, the object or beast acting like a courier for the transmuted nen
>>289518620That's basically what Cookie-chan is.
>>289516541Slippery aura. Cutting attacks? Slide right off. Punches? Can't connect. Binding abilities like Machi's or Morel's some rope? Water off a raincoat. Bungee Gum? Chewed up and spat out.You can even fight mid-range by squeezing something with your aura until it flies off at incredible speeds. Not to mention anyone touching you is fucked since you can do the same to any of their body parts. You're also fast enough to do that, since you can make any floor slippery to the point of oractically nullifyinf friction.
>>289518805The opposite property would also make for a great transmuting ability. 1- Increase friction, 2-perform en
>>289507487On the condition that I go through the trouble of minting or printing my own money, if someone picks it up and puts it in their pocket, they become greedy and paranoid.
>>289518381>If you're going to Transmute a bunny-shaped ball of aura, you have to actually imagine all the curves and lumps of a real bunnyConjurers have to do this as well. Both categories require strong mental images and it was why someone like Kastro was ill suited for it because he couldn't imagine a battle damaged version of himself. >but why?Because form can dictate function and also, it would probably help someone solidify their ability while developing it to associate that form with their overall hatsu. >>289518512>Why would he Emit and Transmute an entire statue that just stands there?Because it would take advantage of his main strength as an enhancer which is his vast pools of aura. Seriously, Razor already established that you can emit nen beasts and then suck them back up to essentially lose nothing. Netero can emit a statue with a fraction of his raw aura to strike and then pull it back in within a fraction of a second. Then his ultimate attack summons that aura behind a target to unload into them with everything he's got.That's why a conjured statue makes no sense. An enhancer would gain nothing from just making a normal statue when it would only be as durable as solid matter instead of as durable as the sheer might of their aura. And yes, I fully support that Goreinu and Razor are emitting their beasts because it's he most logical answer. One segments his vast aura and is a native emitter like Schachmono. He also lives on an island only populated by nen users so there's no need for conjuration. The other uses teleportation which is an emissions category and Nobunaga later says it's basically pointless for a conjurer to have a double that warps people due to compatibility issues.
>>289518933Bratty lolibaba...
>>289519025this guy is wrong about everything, he is trying to spread reddit headcanon to 4chan, please don't listen to him
>>289518336You are free to leave nigger
>>289518538>>289518596I was misremembering. Bill says parasitic Nen is useless Conjuration. Not necessarily Nen beasts.>>289519025We're not falling for your bait, homo.
