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>>289616271Kenzaki's design is closer to Jabu's
>>289616635>Misty's portrait is his bathing scenelmao
This chapter was added later to set up a fight a fight in the Sanctuary arc
>>289616829>HusbandI'm pretty sure that was owner in the original cause she was a slave
>>289616743So the doppelgangers just always existed? I thought it was a trick of Ikki's.
>>289616924No, they just happen to be four guys who inexplicably look identical to our heroes
>>289616971Wait, how the fuck does Guilty know all of this?
You didn't see that, by the way
>>289617181Cloth autism makes me happy,
>>289617497I love Andromeda pointing an accusatory finger at Ikki
>>289617590Thank you, Jesus
>>289616584That is a barefaced lie, because Kurumada doesn't know how to read.
>>289616743>>289616779>>289616808Jobber fodder barely lasts three pagesWhy did Ikki even bring them with him to the tournament?
>>289617889He needed to justify their salaries
Really funny that the probably Top 3 Worst Bronze Saint Training Grounds are>Death Queen Island>Andromeda Island>Sicily
So is the anime better than the manga?I always thought this came out before dragonball and fist of the north star, but it came out after.Like I can get that his previous series was good for its time, but I don't get why this is his biggest hit.Series feels kinda unimpressive so far.Though I do have to admit I always thought the designs looked sick.I remember one of the booklets of either ultimate ninja 3 or one of the budokai games had an ad for one of the seint seiya games and it had pic of the main crew and all the gold saints on it.I always thought they looked cool, I especially thought the gold saints looked really fucking cool.I still have them maybe I'll look for it and post it after the dump.
>>289617282Ikki:>AAAAYEYAUEUAUEUAUEUEE
>>289616971>just throws out life changing into with no fucks given
>>289617969>So is the anime better than the manga?Nostalgiafags will tell you that anime was better, but the truth is both had their positive shit and negative shit. Anime had greet music and visuals, but manga had exceeded with armor designs, pacing, all that shit related to consistency. At the end of a day you can just enjoy whatever thing feels more enjoyable to experience. None is definitely better than another. Fuck, that anime adaptation doesn't even follow the same story in way too many places, kek.
>>289617321How long after the original arc was this chapter made?
>>289617225ENTER
>>289618075Around the Sanctuary, I think
>>289617397>EsmeraldaNo, surely that is Shun.
>>289618129I cannot help but see this as a gag scene of a girl uppercutting a dude in the air in a gag scene
>>289617850This foundation than all the villains so far
>>289617969The thing that KoZ helped to create the battle shounen as we know before It was all a cliche and has the 2 most important things a BS need brotherhood between the main cast(quite literaly) and the scaling where the progression start slowly with strong humans to godhood which was something that wasnt done before
>>289618108If it's when Shaka appears, that is such cheap writing.
>>289618151>J-just a lucky shot, Seiya! B-because Hyoga froze my arm! I'm not coping!
>>289618404Without love in your heart, you won't be a superhero anymore
>>289618404It's corny af, but the concepts of friendship and love giving the fighter a power boost still makes me smile.
>>289618550It's funny how Saint Seiya and Kinnikuman went all in on Friendship Power, meanwhile Dragon Ball and Hokuto no Ken were mostly relying on one guy
>>289618600Oh, hey, I loved you in Space Oddyssey, man
>>289618617Zeus It will be canon soon
This means that all ten of the orphanage Bronze Saints are Saori's uncles
>>289618689In the anime, this is were filler started
>>289618719>16 Years Old
>>289617877Kurumada is an avid reader. His problem was that he couldn't adapt to the authoritarian Japanese educational system. Kurumada always had problems with authority figures
>>289618719Well the silver knights are filler too
>>289618792Wasnt he a delinquent?
>>289617066Basic info for collaborators, they had an agreement to take on a student after all
>>289618719So is seiya's master his long lost sister?
>>289618793They are in the manga so they can't be fillerWords mean things
>>289618818OI TEMEJUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS A DELINQUENT DOESN'T MEAN HE CAN'T LIKE READING KORA
>>289618822Misty, do you realize who you're speaking to?
>>289616990I get how you want to crush the foundation, but killing all the orphans who are every bit as much of victims as he is is retarded. Fucking Kaiba got it right, though he did get the satisfaction of overthrowing his adoptive father.
>>289617304Shaka can feel if a person is good or not. This become relevant during the 12 houses when he still believes the Pope is justice
>>289618856Seiya, that's MuYou had a nightmare about him
>>289617145>he knocked me into the magma!SHUT THE FUCK UP KAZZ- wait, my bad. Force of habit.
>>289618818He became a delinquent after reading Otoko Ippiki but Kurumada spent most of his formative years reading swordsmen novels.
>>289618913 why is Kiki so worried, Mu cant wipe the floor with all the silver jobbers by himself[/spoilers]
>>289618932Not sure if Kiki knew Mu was a gold saint. In the anime, he was surprised to see him with his gold cloth
>>289617397Love with Shun... Esmeralda... whatever
>>289618913So at this point it's gold > silver > bronze >>> black knights?
>>289618689Okay, this one has to be a girl.
>>289618962Basically
>>289617321>There's no physical evidence of the encounter because the armor regenerates.
>>289618971Anon, I...There's a very easy way to tell if a Saint is a girl or not, but I don't think we've gotten to the explanation
>>289618962More like Gold>bronze>>>>steel>black=silver
>>289618995>steelNo such thing
>>289617574Two hearts out, three left
>>289619001>BoyMisty, you're 16
>>289618989He literally has a girl's name. I'm getting fucked with on purpose.
>>289617828>We all went through years of hellShiryu got a wife and a surrogate father and some land.
>>289619081Oh, you haven't seen anything yet
>>289617225>Greek shit>brings up fucking WukongI have to wonder just how little research the mangaka did on Greek myth.
>>289619089Well but his master trained him to die at 17
>>289619109It's a mix match of everything Kurumada likes. Kurumada mentioned that he loves to read myths around the world
>>289618932>>289618950Kiki doesn't know Mu is a Gold Saint
>>289619109Shaka's Indian
>>289618981Heeey, I thought you need a master smith to fix the armor.
>>289619144Phoenix Cloth is designed to repair itself.
>>289619136Neither does Misty, going by how he's treating him
>>289619144It's a Phoenix, anon
>>289619140>Perhaps i should deal with youHAHAHHAHWHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH
>>289618820A lot of readers/viewers has wondered about that
>>289619170*Moses
>>289617497>>289617528>they say 1 out of every 5 knights are gay, this guy is a brocon on top of that
>>289619151I always assumed the Silvet Saints only knew Mu as the guy who fixes cloths and not his true identity
>>289619217>bagged AndromedaDamn, >>289619215 is right.
>>289618841Ikki has always been retarded.
Well, we've had our fun, but everyone's deadManga's over, go home
In hindsight, Misty sure was lucky that Mu didn't want to go into open rebellion against the Sanctuary yet
>>289618600But the Genki Dama is the ultimate everyone's friendship power attack.
>>289619312And it worked exactly once
>>289618250Fine, that makes sense since phoenix.
>>289617969>So is the anime better than the manga?The anime's only sin is the barrage of fillers during the Silver Arc, aside from that it is the better version and did a lot for the series' success.
>>289618600In Z's defense Goku solo'd the arc boss exactly once in Z.Bejita was team effortAgainst Freeza goku did 1 on 1.Cell was gohan, but even he needed his dad to hold his hand through the fight with bejita as support.Buu was a team effort.
>>289619425It's actually Mavrou Trypa
I love Saint Seiya since I was a kid but Gold Saints being able to move at light speed never made sense to me.
Just in case
>>289619490Is Mu and Kiki watching this?
>>289619490In the Spic dub, for some reason they had Misty go into a speech on how much cool stuff he and Seiya could've done together here instead
>>289619396>you thought that was the real gold clothHoly shit there has been insane amounts of lies and gaslighting so far, but this makes sense though. Makes no sense to get a gold cloth a few days after getting a bronze one.
>>289618751Eight? What about Black Dragon's twin?
>>289619490Sex with Misty.
>>289619505The spic translators tried to make it less gay but instead it made them look like Misty had a crush on Seiya
>>289619490His pp is tiny as fuck, kek.
>>289619595Shiryu killed him earlier
>>289618820Timeline doesn't match. Seiya was shown separated from his sister for knight training. Unless mangakaman pull off some time travel shit.
>>289619636There's gotta be a less goofy way to visualize it, Kurumada
>>289618822This is hilarious in hindsight.
>>289619666AAAAH!I imagine his scream to be extremely high pitched and girly.
>>289619490Misty is a moron.>>289619568I always wondered how he became a Saint without experiencing pain.>>289619662There is time travel but not connected to that.
>>289619490Is the pose trying to imitate David?
>>289619757Kishimoto traced this
>>289619001>and you're not even wearing a clcothI'm not sure if the mangaka is aware how he made the cloth looks goddamn useless from the previous fights. Only decent one is phoenix's with the regenerating thing.
>>289619757Seiya has advanced into submissions! Misty doesn't know about the ground game!
>>289619757Pegasus Rolling Crash was always Seiya's most badass and underrated attack.
>>289618822>Words mean thingsI have no idea why anime fags act like "filler = not in the manga" is some kind of dictionary definition, while>the manga author came up with some bullshit that doesn't advance the storyperfectly fits some of the actual dictionary definitions.https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/filler>e: material used to fill extra space in a column or page of a newspaper or magazine or to increase the size of a work (such as a book)
Done for todayCome back tomorrow to see if the other Bronze Saints can beat the rest of the Silvers
>>289619552But then what made the gold cloth stand on its own? also yuujou?
>>289619149>>289619170Yeah, I was being dumb. But to be fair, it doesn't feel like the motif of the cloth matters before. I'm still irritated by how he handled fucking hydra.
>>289618129>>289618976>>289619425>>289616727Togashi TRACED this btw
>>289619381Portable AT Field
>>289616850>ugly people are le bad
>>289619925mad uggo
>>289619250Now I want to see who is the gay ones for each group. For the blacks, I'm thinking the black dragon since he got a convenient twin, making him a brocon as well.
>>289619840Thanks for posting.
>>289619682U_U
>>289619490>only Athena is more radiant than IHow about Aphrodite? Maybe Apollo if you want to be more literal, but you dissed him and Artemis already.
Damn, the anime really improved the shit out of this crap.
>>289619636Based Shiryu, is he the only one with kill count in the gang so far?
>>289617397The anime is totally different lol
>>289619682Kugi Punch traced this? Torikobros...?
>>289619757The what now? This is the first time he used that move and the commentator already know about it somehow.
>>289619840Thanks, I'm looking forward to more gaslighting.
>>289617960and there's the possibility of survivor bias being in play, as others didn't survive theirs
>>289619673Mu wasn't amused
>>289619016>Head piece missingWas it that hated?
>>289619149I am surprised by the hydra cloth not having this feature
>>289619425>
>>289620837Kek.
>>289617923It's funny the guy completely gets away with this and just becomes occasional comic relief in later series.
>>289617590So there are Jesus, greek gods, buddah etc etc. There is a pope but he protects athena who protects this world... And then Shakka who is closer to God...But which God??? Religion in saint seiya is confusing.
>>289618822Mu wasn't planned to be a gold saint, right?It makes no sense that this jobber silver saint has the confidence to threaten literally the top 3 gold saint
>>289621313Buddha>>289621881I don't know if his role was planned. Even if Mu wasn't who he is, threatening to kill the only person capable of repairing the magical armor of yourself and other knights/saints is silly.
>>289621313greek gods, buddha, etc are all gods in saint seiya universebut it's only buddhism that allows normal human to achieve goodhoodand greek gods too I guess, assuming the god reincarnated as you
>>289619757Seiya's ultimate technique is one where he physically makes contact with his opponent, a rarity in this series.
>>289618700that would mean one of the bronze saints gave birth to her?
>>289617969>I always thought this came out before dragonball and fist of the north star, but it came out afterit came out after but a lot of the concepts that became shone mainstays were introduced in Saint Seiya first and then adopted in the other two
Is Lost Canvas canon?
>>289618913how do you even become a Silver Saint? the training for Bronze is years of torture, is it even worse for Silvers? or are you just chosen by your constellation?why didn't nobu\kido sent the kids to train for silver or gold instead of bronze?
>>289622731I think that some of the 100 orphans did go to train as Silver Saints, but they didn't come back.Constellations only apply to Gold Cloths. But having a matching constellation isn't it enough, it requires training.Kurumada never went into specifics about what sort of training it takes to become a Silver saint
>>289622565Not sure.
>>289617969The anime got its flaws (dumb and unnecessary filler mostly) but it unironically carried the franchise up until the first movie that was supposed to be the opener for the zeus or olympus arc flopped so badly it pretty much killed the entire IP and its barely regaining its footing nowadays thanks to spinoffs like re rise of poseidon.
>>289617653>ikki is stronger because he's 15/16 and the others are just 13I never considered this while watching the anime
>>289623170I was surprised by their actual ages. I assumed everyone was older (Ikki18-19, the other 15-16)
I don't know why i keep reading this. I don't enjoy it.the art looks like shit 95% of the time except for the spreads. the story both moves at breakneck speed and slowly. the characters are not interesting. it's so full of cliché i want to vomit (this one i'll overlook since it's so old). I don't enjoy it, and the humour doesn't work.and yet, I keep going. I don't know why. i might be autistic.
>>289617969Saint Seiya hits it's stride in the Sanctuary arc, at this point Kurumada is throwing shit at the wall to see what sticksThe anime is good but also has it's issues, mostly a lot of dumb filler early on
>>289623251Genuinely curious, do you also read Kengan Omega?
>>289620667Hydra Cloth can regrow its claws
>>289618298you could even argue that an attack never works twice against a knight
>>289616971In Kurumada style everyone kinda looks like watch other anyway, Is a world with about five faces
>>289618820Imposible unless Seika speedrun getting a silver cloth, that's why Is eventually shown that Marin and Seika aré different people. Seiya Is just dumb for even thinking that was a possibility.
>>289618855Not really good!Saga was un control for most of the Time and that guy Is so good people compare It to a god of mercy and peace. Is just bad!Saga it's equally bad when he comes out
>>289623251>and the humour doesn't work.What humour? There isn't any. I'm not saying it's because it's not funny, I'm saying it's because there's no attempt at humour or levity at all.
>>289622565LC and G were supposed to be canon during the SS revival (early '00), but later everyone went their own way
>>289623251>and yet, I keep going. I don't know why. i might be autistic.We got him
>>289619073>TANK as an sfx
>>289619814Because it doesn't actually fit that definition.It's not material that's being used to fill out extra space. It's the actual body of the work, regardless of how important it is.Stuff like explaining in detail how the cloths transform is the kind of filler you're looking for there.And if the Silvers are unimportant, them most of the manga so far is equally unimportant. If anything, that seems like a perfectly sensible progression. You have the Bronzes, and you have the Golds. Makes sense that there's something in between there.
>>289619490>>289619788For Reference.
>>289625020there's very little, but the little there is really does nothing. the 60s style chibi face don't work on me.
>>289625611I wasn't talking about this instance in particular as I'm not the original poster, just the notion that filler exclusively means not in the manga.
>>289619757The Izuna Drop will always be one of the sickest moves in fiction.
>>289625951Saint Seiya has far too much stoicism. Have something funny happen.
>>289617225THE ULTIMATE STRONGEST OF THE STRONG
>>289623251I genuinely can't tell what's going to happen at any point so it's fun for that alone. If the arcs progressed like a typical long-running shounen, I would've dropped by now.
>>289623251Quite a few people think the anime did a pretty good job adding ost/animation to the canon plot of the manga.
>>289619268>Here a typical axed ending
>>289622731>is it even worse for Silvers? can't be, this silver saints doesn't know what pain is lol >>289619363
>>289622919> Some are sended to the silver saint titleThe number doesn't match even this way because constellations are 88 and surelly some of the cloths are already taken
>>289621881Mu is too calm to not have been planned to be important.And this kind of plot is common in Wuxia
>>289621881Mu stayed away from Sanctuary for like a decade after the whole Saga betrayal, so it makes sense not every knight would recognize him. and Misty is pretty young too
>>289619307Mu doesn't get into a fight until the Hades arc, dude is legit too powerful for the manga until the endgame
>>289619190>YOUR not all you claim to be>>289619325>YOUR not even blledingamazing quality control, VIZ. it feels like every chapter has at least 1 blatant dialog fuckup
>>289630672>And this kind of plot is common in WuxiaCan't think of any examples.
>>289632579They also space things out unnecessarily. >"Ha ha ha ha" instead of "Hahahaha">Lack of contractions, making dialogue seem very awkward
>>289633613Missing contractions works better depending on the type of character.
>>289619190The Sentai Filmworks dub and KOTZ CGI used the "Morris" censorship too, iirc. So much for the former staying close to the original.
>>289619505DiC dub cut down the nude scene and had Seiya claim Misty was in his boxers.
>>289625951There are some silly faces in the Hades arc too, though the anime cut a particular one due to cutting the moment that surrounded it.
>>289616544sain seiya pero bien hecho>>289626425
>>289616544there was another anon in the previous thread saying that Dragon ball, not Saint seiya revolutionized shonen manga, and while that's, of course, true that dragon ball is a major inspiration for a lot of shonen that will come after it, Saint seiya is also really huge had an incredible pull on future generations. When we reach Sanctuary we will see how many new readers will call kubo an hack for basically coping verbatim
>>289617066>djangolmao, I didn't know Kurumada liked spaghetti western
>>289617145pretty gory>>289617225GORDO SAINT ENTER
>>289619089he exchanged it with a suicide training
>>289618583>>289618600honestly being sent to a suicide mission to get the cloth is reason enough to hate him, no reason to also put this shit up.
>>289618689oh, it's Lady Oscar
>>289617145TALKING IS A FREE ACT- brrrmgrmblrblrbm
>>289618822even if we didn't know the truth, killing the only guy that can fix armors is fucking stupid
>>289636564They both had major influences on the medium, but also at times it feels like Seiya laid a better groundwork for others to improve upon more than it could stand up on its own.
>>289619719>>289619490 bet Aphrodite is his master
>>289619840thanks op
>>289621313the pope is not the catholic pope. Pope is a title, you'll see
>>289623251at least wait until Sanctuary to decide if you like it or not
>>289637156He already likes it but needs to process the truth
>>289636915Do you really expect saints to be smart? We had a whole bunch of them agreeing to a tournament that breaks the rules of saints fighting personal battles at the start and they all did it immediately upon finishing their training. Every error a saint makes is also pushable by death as well. There's no room for error or improvement.
>>289637083>bet Aphrodite is his master>only Athena is more radiant than I
>>289638118>There's no room for error or improvement.Might as well rebel after your first mistake then. See the Dazexiang Uprising.
>>289638753There are only 88 saints in existence at any given time. At most, that is. The Phoenix Cloth, the Dragon Cloth, Cygnus Cloth, among others, hadn't been used in forever, so that's 85 only and saints are constantly infighting and killing each other and reducing that number. It's a wonder they can fight anything.
>>289636853Kurumada is a huge fan of Lady Oscar
>>289619490B-beautiful!
>>289619840Thank you for posting.
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