This is one of the most insufferable characters I've ever seen in media.
he's overhated
>>289769708He's definitely one of them.
>>289769708The thing he did that pissed me off more than anythinh was show up to the entrance exam out of shape. Only later after a "cleaning up this area" training montage is he in shape. Like, he never believed in himself or took his dream seriously. Maybe Im being too critical, but he was meant for fast food.
>>289770496And worse, he stayed like this.After he lost his powers he instantly dropped his ambition again and had to wait for his old class to throw him a bone with that suit. Something he could have pursued actively himself instead of doing nothing until the karma from the heavens handed it to him. Pathetic.
>>289769708Only because he didn't man up. Can't blame someone for being raised in a first-world single mother household. All things considered, Mirio should've been Deku's Kamina.
>>289769708He's fine I guess, shonen protagonists are basically always the worst characters of their own showI just feel like half the writing around Deku was insisting that he's a completely different character to the one we're watching>he's so smart and analytical and making mental notes about quirks (never gets used because he's so OP he beats anyone without needing to think)>he's so caring and obsessed with saving people, even villains (no main villains get saved or redeemed)
I just can't help but think of that part in Captain America, where Steve Rogers keeps trying to enlist over and over again but is always turned away for being as asthmatic little weakling but because the doctor was looking for qualities other than physical strength like innate goodness so he gave the kid a chance. And because Steve Rogers just wanted to do his part and help out and not seek glory he got to be Captain America, Save the Day and make out with Hayley Atwell. Like it might have been cool to see AM just take a bit of pity on Deku, throw him into one of the remedial classes, and then we'd get a few chapters of him toughing it out or using his head. Again like Captain America. The flag poll stunt wasn't really super clever or anything but it showed us his character.
>>289769708He's not even close, and I don't even like him that much. Araragi is much more irritating.
>>289772056>shonen protagonists are basically always the worst characters of their own showMost of the time they're just kind of inoffensively bland. I'm not going to act like Ichigo is an especially GOOD character with his never ending lineage of power ups but he's at his worst kind of bland. regardless of good or bad most shounen leads are they're going to at least have a bit more agency.
But anon... he had sex with Mitsuki the bakuMILF
>>289772141The moral of either story is that you won't get anywhere in this world without busted cheat skills or inborn genetic prowess, all that babble about goodness is irrelevantOh and connections, always good to know someone who will endow you with superhuman abilities
>>289772504You don't get connections by crying in your room. You get them by showing you deserve them.
>>289772577connections aren't earned dumbass. they just happenfuckin epstein had connections
>>289769743FPBPlosers here unironically see (parts of) themselves into this guy and seethe but they will never admit it/thread
>>289772577You are so cute and naive
>>289772622>>289772666This is t he problem with characters like Deku. He exists purely for a generation of layabouts who want to complain that life is unfair and it's everyone's fault but their own
>>289771955>Mirio should've been Deku's Kamina.Mirio was so based at first. Then his nerfing and finally that stupid "peach" scene killed any dignity he still had.
Does anyone remember when one of the dub voice actresses retweeted fat fetish art because she thought it was promoting body positivity
>>289772782No but in a way I supposed it does
>>289772141There are ways to write a character who never had any ambitions of being a hero but still rose up to the challenge when shit hit the fan too like pic related, Deku is just terrible.
>>289773100Azuma always wanted to be the number one and is one big jealous bitch desu.
>>289769743He definitely was for the first half of the story. I actually really liked Deku at first. I thought he was admirable, he worked hard, he never gave up, and has the heart of a hero even when he was quirkless. The hate around him being sensitive and timid felt excessive and was likely coming mostly from people who weren't watching/reading MHA anyway. I was expecting his fight with Bakugo to be the turning point in the story where Deku really grows a backbone and quits putting up with Bakugo's constant disrespect and that he would establish that he's not the quirkless kid who Bakugo could view as beneath him anymore. Instead it felt like Deku was buckbroken after that fight, he went from just putting up with Bakugo's abuse to actively cheering it on, it made it really hard to keep respecting Deku when he clearly doesn't even respect himself.>>289772747>that stupid "peach" scene killed any dignity he still had.Now that I think about it this story really has a problem with stripping characters of their dignity. To an extent it made sense with All Might, but they took it too far. Yeah, he's this frail sickly looking guy without his quirk but the way everyone just brushes off the guy who was the pillar of hope for their whole society the moment he loses his muscles always stood out as ridiculous to me, especially Bakugo, who supposdely idolizes All Might and was inspired by him to become a hero, he treats All Might with nearly the same level of disrespect as Deku once the muscles are gone.
>>289773100Most super heroes didn't become super heroes because they wanted to. They were either molded by some tragedy or greater sense of duty and responsibility. You get a good few who want to be heroes because they think it will make them famous but they'll usually learn some harsh lesson really early.
>>289772504surprisingly redpilled, why does /a/ hate it again
>>289772747They tried to pull a reverse harem sexy jutsu moment like when Naruto used it to stun Kaguya but it's literally just kinda gay the way they did it in MHA.
>>289773176>he never gave up,He did though. He gave up before the story ever even started. In fact he didn't even get to the level of giving up he never tried. This is why people get so up in a fit saying he needed to apply even if he knew he would fail. That simple act would show a nobler aspect to his character.
>>289773158Azuma is wayyy more complicated than that. In fact i find it funny to compare him and Bakugo and see what an insane rift there is in terms of their writing quality.Can't wait for CX to finally get adapted honestly, i want to see anime onlies reacting to THAT twist.
>>289769743He is but there's also a fair chunk of it that's deserved even if a lot of it boils down to Horikoshi not really properly rejiggering things around production changes and new plot points and characters he came up with.The existence of Eraserhead, Sir Knight-Eye, and Mirio and so on all make Izuku look really fucking dumb early on retroactively and he's got a huge case of "the Naruto problem" where he has like no agency and a bunch of his fights kinda amount to "fuck around trying not to die until getting saved or One Big Attack is allowed to work by the narrative" while his progress doesn't feel like it matters a lot of the time [Fullcowl being unable to take out a Stain, a normal emaciated dude with the power of licking blood, despite gangstalking him with several of his friends LMAO] and that really fucking hurts him, but I think similar to Naruto the fact that a lot of that shit cuts the fuck out during the final arcs while the writing falls the fuck apart would have soft-rehabilitated him a little if not for the cuck-suit and all that just fucking kneecapping him.
>>289769743Perhaps he is, I concede a lot of it is because of how popular the show got, but it's honestly kind of frustrating that this is what got popular and that a character like him is. Is that fair? No. But it also doesn't really absolve him and the series of it's flaws either.
>>289773522There's too many shit powers to really feel for Deku's non power. Even a lot of the seemingly useful utility ones don't seem like they put their user too far ahead of a quirkless person. Momo seems like she has useful powers but one good hit from the wrong villain and she's paste.
>>289773522>a lot of it boils down to Horikoshi not really properly rejiggering things around production changes and new plot points and characters he came up withI still remember that "flash-forward" early on of a grown up Deku still having OfA and ranked as #1 hero. It's just completely dropped and forgotten. A fakeout. They didn't even try to explain or justify it. Sloppy.
>>289769708most of this show's problems boil down to how it handles its villains. its villains suck ass, but horikoshi desperately wants you to see them as misunderstood and sympathetic, and that includes deku's babybitch tantrum throwing foil shigaraki
>>289773723There's literally no reason why a quirkless Deku in peak athletic form with all his schooling can't be a Hero on par with the guy with a fucking tail
>>289773976Like 90 percent of all quirks fall apart without a good level of physical fitness. Tape arm is going to rip his shoulder off if he doesn't start lifting.
>>289772317Ichigo's also kind of a special case cause the point of his character is that he doesn't have an overarching goal like other shonen MCs nd is really just a teen getting sent to fight battles he has no real stakes in because he's the only one who can actually win.
>>289769708This is
>half the villains in the show have homelessness as part of their backstory that begins their descent into crime>at the end of the show everyone pools their money together to buy Deku an expensive birthday present and declares crime solvedI know Jap media can't ever touch on societal issues but at some point it just starts feeling cruel
>>289774143Ichigo can at least bank on more immediate stakes if he lacks long term ones. >There's a ghost it wants to eat my sister. I need to stab it because nobody else can.
>>289769708>>289774246>This is one of the most insufferable characters I've ever seen in media.Still not worse than this
>>289770191Why is Natsu bad? He's just bland
>>289774377That's just Jet the hawk.
>>289773723>>289773976>>289774105Yeah it's like, the moment we saw Eraserhead, who's power is that "nu-uh your power doesn't work sometimes" and is otherwise just a normal fucking guy go 1v50 with a fuckload of guys who while fodder came expecting to have to fight cheeseburger jesus to the death and thus could be expected to be at least reasonably hardened minor criminals Izuku just looked fucking stupid for never working out before.>>289772317>>289774143I think what carries Ichigo is that Bleach was pretty good at giving him at least kind of the illusion of agency which combined with the fact that a lot of his fights do have at least some back and forth [vs shit like >>289773522 mentioned where a lot of Naruto fights prior to like Pein boil down to "naruto can't do jack shit until get gets bailed out or "big technique he should have used earlier"] which meant that it felt like what Ichigo did mattered.He is kinda bland, but him being a tiny bit more stoic and staid-faced than his peers was relatively unique at the time and he was at least fairly likeable too, and I feel like that and again the whole "it at least usually *feels* like he's also a motivator in the events of the story rather than riding along" thing were a big part of why, even though we all fucking remember how much of a dumpsterfire TYBW was writing-wise, people came back anyway, because the same thing kept people on during the worst bits of TYBW in the manga too.Well that and god fucking awful final stretches make all the problems in TYBW retroactively seem tame. "Ichigo is half-everything" "Fake Zangetsu", and "How the fuck does Almighty even work" seem infinitely less shit when the successors of "Seven Quirks", "The Gum Gum is actually an OC cartoon god fruit", and "Whatever the fuck you want to quantify Modulo as" for example all happened.
>>289774527Yeah I don't entirely get that one. He can be a little obnoxious, and the whole clusterfuck with "actually the dragon was hiding inside of him the whole time" was retarded but the only truly crippling issue I'd say he has is being a bit too static, but he can at least have a somewhat decent fight scene and is more "comedy stupid sometimes" rather than the kind of "serious stupid" you got from Naruto where you have whatever chain of logic resulted in him unironically calling Obito "the coolest guy". in a serious context.I'd depressingly have to say he's actually kinda above average as shounen protagonists go and his bigger issues largely stem from Fairy Tail as a whole's structure being a lot more of a relax narrative playground meaning developments for characters tend to be either glacial or explosive with zero inbetween and the stakes tend to be pretty spongey without a ton of risk.
>>289772317I like Ichigo's "I just want to live my life and keep the people I care about safe" attitude. It feels a little more organic and realistic than "I WANT TO BE THE KING OF THE [insert thing]"I just wish he had a bit more grit. A bit more personality. He had it at the start, but at some point just began losing his edges.
>>289775337I miss Ichigo on the left so much.
>>289774527>>289774687>Natsu shillers>Temu Naruffy and twice as retarded and hypocritical(somehow while being gary stuish as fuck) entertaining as his predecessors.
>>289772399Self Insert autism doesn't count anon. She will never fuck Deku or Youm
>>289771955>NOOOOO I CAN'T USE THE SPIRAL POWER TO SAVE MY WIFESimon was a cuck
>>289769743He's not but some people hate him for the wrong reasons. He should be though.
>>289773339Naruto doesn't exist. It made Sasuke look stupid and was biased towards the Mc the entire run.
>>289775528
>>289775933He and his world wins.
You have seen nothing
Nothing I tell you
Absolutely nothing
>>289769708watch more anime retard
>>289776366>>289776391>>289776425All of these characters are better than Deku by a wide or extremely wide margin.
>>289774377Is he not the guy who tried to argue smiles are more important than food to a starving child?
A challenger appears
>>289775647She has done it with Mineta.YABBA DABBA DOO
>>289774572Ichigo really got to shine when he was playing the straight man to his friends. Especially in the earlier episodes when he had things to say about his classmates. That's part of why it and he suffered so much the further removed from the city it got. He needs someone to bounce off and react too but he works.
>>289775933Both lose to Pic related
>>289777496Mineta is dead and doesn't exist self inserter.
>>289777623Mineta is alive and has taken Mitsuki the MitsuMILF in mating press after suckling her titties.
This is canonYABBA DABBA DOO
>>289777775>>289777741what is honestly wrong with you
>>289777495He at least killed his bully.
Definitely the most sufferable! Let em bring up picture real quick at how he will be tortured!Ahh there we go!
>>289777884Mitsuki is just high tier milf material.Milfs with smaller guys hanging on them is kino.
>>289777741>>289777741>Tdlr>More self insert shit posting of an ugly irrelevant virgin like youCope
>>289777775>Nope, Pic related is
>>289778344Mineta is still taking Mitsuki in a full nelson when you are talking and she will take another manlet after.Bakugo allowed this.
>>289776624Holy fuck no
>>289772625If that was true, then he's not hated enough.
>>289778344Prime Time
Nothing in this thread is as embarrassing as Nardo having a heart attack over his boyfriend running away
>>289776162Jachi just kick these two asses at once.
>>289778437ded
>>289770191Replace Natsu with the cuck.
>Not a bitch like Deku and Denji>Kind as fuck but also ruthless as hell when it counts.>Beats up bullys.What makes pic-related a good shounen MC?
>>289777495>>289780970They are already the Clowns of the Club.
>>289769708Before the Deku fag appears to defend him;No boy (the intended target audience) has ever wanted to be like him. It only was successful due to horny fujos, and that Hori drew hot women.>>289777495He actually worked out, and his hand didn't tremble to kill criminals
>>289781113Oh hey, Constantine. I'd have gone with Hellboy myself.
>>289782174Kek
>>289769708Imagine being Deku and being stuck at street tier because they moment you try to fight someone that can hit as hard as you it will always end with you losing
>>289783511Nothing wrong with street tier. Lot of cool street tier characters.
>>289771378This one is probably the worst one.I could defend him being a dumb and disillusioned kid at time and needing some external help to make it (happened to me around his age,so i could relate to some bit).But after a whole adventure where he supposedly learned what actually means to be an hero…. He just give up until they gift him the suit.He doesn’t even play a part on the development of the suit. (Like being the perfect test subject for the very early prototypes) , nor he try to be a low tier hero and help around like Vigilante’s protagonist used to do at the start.He just gave up on his dream to be an hero until someone else bailed him out with the super duper suit served on a silver plate.
>>289783582I even kind of like the teacher idea. But in my mind he's not getting dressed down as a gag by other teachers but he's in the classroom mopping the floor with some smug students who are suddenly wowed by his cleverness and suddenly eager to learn there's more to heroing than just power. That would be a good moral. That would be good ending. No I don't care that he gave a student a pep talk because said pep talk feels hollow.
>>289783630>wowed by his clevernessFucking Natsu from Fairy Tail was more clever than Deku, Hori really failed to show Deku's supposed smarts
>>289783665Well, yes. I agree but pretend In this version of the ending he would be clever
We all agree that deku fans are the absolute bottom tier fanbase in anime, lower than OP, right
>>289783713I mean Bakugo fans are pretty weird. I wouldn't want to meet one of them in a dark alley.
>>289778465Sorry, Bakugo is busy right now.
He's fine, but never measured up to the expectations I had in my head. The first chapter lead me to believe that the story was gonna be about a guy without powers, but with brain and guts, shomehow becoming the greatest hero in the world. I was really excited because it would something special, different than other shonens.But in the very next chapter all-might just gives him the strongest power in the world. Then later he got 6 more, and that's when I quit reading.I don't know how the manga ended but a friend of mine is always whining that Deku didn't even become the world's greatest hero. Yet another promise that they couldn't deliver on.
>>289772056>Shonen protagonists are basically always the worst characters of their own showsToo true, even if there's no fighting like Your Lie in April (I just learned recently it's a Shounen Jump work). I'll never understand why the female characters even like these pathetic male characters.
>>289783772Being cucked by vampires (not Toga)
>>289783951and also yes Toga
>>289777399Yes
>>289780793But Natsu IS a cuck.
>>289772747It was necessary because Mirio was so unfathomably better as a hero than deku that he needed to be humiliated, nerfed and disappear from the story. Same as Bakugo incredibly problematic behavior being treated as a gag. Horikoshi never had the skills to fix the writing issues, so he preferred to just straight up ignore them, tell the readers they were never there in the first place and fans gobble it up
>>289770191Look at how angry that pedo looks...
He would have been fine if he wasn't such a bakugo simp
>>289772625>this characters is good and the people who don't like ackshually self insert as himKek, you're a coping retard.
>>289772625Dumb cope.But let's say if this was the case, this is not a rebuttal against him being annoying or being a poorly written protagonist my friend.
Mirio should have been the main character. Make him a goofy likeable guy who works his ass out physically but thinks he was given a terrible useless quirk. His design would be perfect for a shounen MC, very easy to draw and memorable too.
>>289784827>Lucy canonically unkissed virgin >Elie tongue-kissed by a villain while Cuckru watches onThere's a reason they call him Haru the Cuck, MC of a forgotten series.
Deku is not only insufferable, he's fucking boring. There's nothing about that ever screams cool. He never has a moment of rebellion or a personality trait that isn't positive. Though the villains of my hero aren't much better, with their constant sad backstory shit
I'm the best newgen shounen protag
Deku is the most pathetic turd in shounen. I'd like to direct this image to him, but this turd never tried until he got a super quirk promised to him so it doesn't even work.
>>289785750>OH NOES! Just a kiss? How AWFUL! Meanwhile . . .
>>289777775Based Minetachad
>>289786505There's no such thing. He ended up a loser extra as Bakugou Katsuki has said.
>>289778465>Mineta is a unremembered, ugly and unpopular has been with sero basically being a janitor who got bad press with women(obviously) and put out if the publics memory as a D tier hero in a low level neighboordDon't be like Mineta kids
>>289783772>>289783951>Fanart and ai>Bakugous a gay clown and never got to become number 1 confirmed.
>>289786708>buáááwas this google translated from a brown facebook page
>>289783951Ochako deserves a good boy who's not toxic or an arrogsnt asshole who never shuts up.
>>289786763Goddamn, how does he do it?
>>289772056Gentle, nagant
>>289786466HEADCANON is all you have. The only thing Haru and his series is remembered for is how the MC was cucked.
>>289787104Natsu loses to car riding/motion sickness so Haru is a gigachad in comparison.
>>289787265Haru was the designated jobber in their crossover and needed Natsu to save him. Imagine getting cucked in your own manga then turning into a damsel in distress in a crossover.
>>289786042>does nothing>wins best nushonen protag competitionIt's that simple
>>289787104>HEADCANONIt literally happens it the latest chapters.
Deku never fell below top 2 in the popularity polls so nahA lot of the posts in tge latter half of this thread are extremely performative
>>289787354Natsu also needed saving...so it equals out
>>289786708>>289786763nani?
>>289787104That's the only thing YOU remember about Haru and his series, you porn-rotted street shitter.
>>289787680>This never happened Isn't bakugou in love with Deku and his growth more than any female. He would never do this to him.
>>289777495>>289780970>>289781113The weak should fear the strong.
>>289787680 #Sorry bakugou is never touching a female in his life if it interferes with his autism of being number 1. The lengths you anti deku fans go to glaze fraudkugo is appalling.
>>289769708ez
>"WHAT? Mineta-sama you're saying you've impregnated my mom? YABBA DABBA DOO!!!! Next time let me watch at least!"
>>289787104The only thing Lucy and her series is remembered for is how much of a Grad A slut she is.
>>289788116>Bakugou: Get lost you faggot shrimp! >Bakugou's mom: Thanks son, he's been creeping on me all day.
>"Let's do it again Mineta-sama and do not forget to record the video for Katsuki, I have to do it with Midoriya-kun after you. Be rough, don't hold back! I cannot stop thinking about your dick those days"
>>289785851villains are the worst part about mhaheroes like all might, endeavor, to a point miruko are basedthe villains are all whiny crybabies and/or chuunis with the exception of gentle (who is also based), who i struggle to even call a villain
>>289769708There's MUCH worse protagonists out there.>>289769743He is. He sure isn't perfect, but he's also just not that bad when you consider anything genuinely fucking shitty.No, I don't mean that it's the new FOTM big shounenslop and the writing and characters actually aren't that great (that's normal), I mean where the writing and characters are both very bad, something like Wolf Crest for instance. People like OP don't know much though, because their horizons are strictly the latest FOTM trash or seasonal stuff, and it never extends beyond that point, which is why they spend so much time being vocally upset about garden variety popular shounen.
>>289772577Cynic faggot btfo.
>>289776425this guy was fucking based
>>289772622You think his money generated spontaneously out of pure Jewishness or something? He was a financier, he made investments and handled money, even if his starting wealth was inherited (no idea if it was or not), clearly he must have been fucking good at what he was doing, because he made himself incredibly wealthy and knew how to connect and network with other people.Family connections and inherited wealth can take you places by themselves, but you don't become a favored son of your father, nor do you build yourself up in a business, by just coasting on that without trying, and you can see that in less famous siblings and relatives of the rich and famous, they aren't necessarily all that good at things.Him also being an evil predator doesn't disprove that, evil is sometimes intelligent and proficient.
>>289784376>>289774377Yuya is like Deku if half way through the story All Might figured out how to give AFO to a bunch of other people too and Deku started sulking about how he's not special anymore
>>289769708People watched this show?
MHA is too shitty all around to place blame specifically on Deku.
>>289788069Kek
>>289789097That kind of sardonic reply doesn't really work for something that's been advertised and merchandized ad astra, it just makes you look like a goofy contrarian, just call the show shit instead (because there's valid arguments for that).
Reminder that Mineta CANONICALLY worked with (and probably fucked) Mt. Lady for several yearsReminder that CANONICALLY he is in the top 110 heroes of Japan with hsi own quirk and doesn't have to rely on his BVLL's money to get fake powers from a suitYup, I think I know who "won" MHA!
>>289789117his crybaby ways and trying too hard to save shiggy are definitely something he can be blamed for
>>289789406>Yup, I think I know who "won" MHA!Shoto?
>>289769708MHA is a magnet for the mentally unwell
>>289790001he didn't try very hard at allI could have fixed him
>>289790176Correct.
>>289788156As always
>>289769708His problem is that there's a clear character flaw: his self-destructive tendencies. One would think that he will haveat least SOME character development, but nope, he continues to mutilate himself, getting to the point where he fuckin' ruined not only his body, but also generations of effort of his predecessors. Korra-level achievement.I bet he fucked-up that mecha in a week, and had to wage-slave for yet another 8 years while his friends earn money for replacement. If he could still work, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up quadruple amputee.
>>289791382He's too meek. I know Japan likes to keep their heroes humble, but there's a difference between humility and meekness. Peter Parker eventually grew up out of puny parker mindset and pushed back against his bullies.
>>289776525Most have annoying MCs.And the Plots don't help, like Kaiju no 8
>>289793086>I know Japan likes to keep their heroes humble, but there's a difference between humility and meekness.Wistoria Protragonist is the worst example of this.
>>289793137It's not like I expect them to turn into suave overconfident giga chads but they can at least try to be normal, can't they. Like I can't even see these guys ordering a pizza let alone fighting evil.
>>289793193Everything in Wistoria is wrong, especially when the whole Bully revelation was so unrealistic.and in Kaiju is more like Annoying, You can genuinely say that the writing really did Olympic-level juggling to avoid taking risks in making the protagonist more interesting by having him face humans and kaiju at the same time; literally the entire sequence was disgustingly predictable.
Deku is a really unlikable protagonist and Bakugo sucks as a protagonist because the world itself is already in his favor. Except for when he gets kidnapped because his spergout being aired live on television and the guilt about all might. The world itself doesn't even try to question the heroes and their beliefs. Even though it's inspired by Naruto and marvel cape shit and in both of those series it happens on multiple occasions.
>>289783511The only time i can stand cape shit, is if its street-tier, or at least somewhere close to it.Planet tier or cosmic tier / whatever just kills all my interest.
>>289769708Not even the most insufferable character in his own manga.Bakugo is worse.
>>289794585yeah bakugo is so annoying because he just flips from one mode to another and then his fanboys call it "PEAK CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT"
>>289794740Worse its that he doesn't have any significant change, he just screams a bit less and apologize once.
>>289794875He also cries a bit after Deku loses his quirks.
>>289794996Thinkin about his paycheck cuz he knows Japan is a cold, cold bitch with its de-powered heroes and you can't even remotely compare to a plain dude with a tail unless you dump 5 trillion yen into an exoskeleton.
>>289786042>A faggot who lobotomizes two entire planets, only temporarily alleviating the problem before inevitably making it infinitely worse in the long run, just for the sake of making it possible to import 1894729472 billion space brown people for no reasonUnironically worse than Deku even at his most cucked and it's impressive.
>>289796382He sounds like he would be history's greatest monster, unironically.
>>289783868>but a friend of mine is always whining that Deku didn't even become the world's greatest heroWE ALL BECAME THE WORLD'S GREATEST HERO! EVERY ONE OF US! Honestly the whole situation is honestly pretty bizarre. The series wants to just give Deku everything but at the same time it doesn't want to let him have anything either. And it's not in some kind of ironic sacrifice kind of way either. They want him to be the self insert best and strongest but also keep him down and pathetic any chance they get because if he suddenly acts cool he loses the self insert or woobie angle
>>289786042he's newgen's ichigo to be honest>no real goals>no real outgoing personality for the most part>doesn't have his full powers until the very end>we don't even know what his "ultimate technique" is or does
>>289796382Wait what is this show about?
>>289786042>Made his villain seethe everytime he showed his ugly mugYup, thats peak protag material right there.
>>289788315>Mineta having a wet dream about Katsuki Momo and Katsuki deciding to kill him for it
>>289797238Bakugo canonically slurping from Mineta's balls after obsessing about his dreams. Based image. I too ship Bakugo as crushing on Mineta.
>>289769743I only hated him in hindsight now that kd exists and made me realize a quirkless loser using their brain/combat smarts/shotgun to beat the shit out of villains makes for the superior story
>>289789406>headcanon tdlrMineta died a lonely and unpopular hero and probably got bullied by the top 100 heroes including Bakugou and Mt Lady's husband kamui woods, deku is treated like a quarterback football star in comparison.
>>289797342Powerless in a world of supers is a very overdone trope. Having a kid with a shit quirk who learns how to use it effectively and becomes genuinely powerful is more fun.
>>289797313>resorting to gay fanart now.It's over minetasissies
>>289789406Just the fact that Mineta is a pro hero at all despite being a midget with a shit-tier quirk is a pretty huge W desu.
>>289797238>Katsuki's momFixed
He would honestly be a better character if he didnt get any handouts from the universe and i'm not talking about OfA.Very clear MC syndrome because he's a beta dweeb nerd who loves nerdy shit and probably argues online about hero powerscaling and doesnt wash his ballsack but every girl in the series still has to be like E-ermmm eetoo midoryiakyuun woah sugoi so cool and every dude likes him also.Just commit to the fact that he's a loser underdog bc this guy has 0 friction socially aside from Bakugo who is just mentally ill and retarded when the perspnality type he has would make a solid 50% of everyone he meets hate his aah
>>289797366Kind of a moot point when his character arc is him becoming a quirkless loser
>>289783582You do realize Deku DID become a hero right? Not to mention if he decided act all Kick-Ass and fight bad guys without a quirk out of boredom, not only would he be setting a bad example but he would also be making his friends look bad due to being associated with a retard.This reminds me of all those retards drawing pictures of Batman beating up ICE agents and Trump.
Deku isn’t for you. You’ll never be Japanese
Would you guy's like mha more if Deku had Bakugo's personality? Also where the fuck was Deku's dad? 9/11 times a thousand was happening in his home country and he didn't bother to call once!?
>>289797755No. It really should have been about Deku just trying to work around it by being smart, rather than having it handed to him.
>>289797402There's zero suspension of disbelief for Bakugo being gay. I mean, he WAS canonically penetrated by 7 different men.
>>289796561>>289796949JJK unironically is straight up just Gege venting about his far left politics by setting up bare minimum writing to move his strawmen around before they're kicked over, but he only went completely mask off with Modulo where aliens who were a thinly veiled refugee pastiche complete with the thing where when you unpack their everything you end up realizing the reasons they're coming [here] are bullshit that amounts to "we didn't get to be the ones killing and oppressing in our homeland so we're taking a shot at it here" and then Yuji the Mega Ultra Leftist Ubermensch rips the capacity to use cursed energy out of both species, which will crash the global energy economy but it will make cursed spirits weaker...buuuut it won't actually get rid of them so now people are defenseless against the weaker ones that will still happen and eventually start growing stronger long term anyway, but his argument is basically "Well everyone who tried to stop me failed".
>"Mineta-sama thank you so much for those vacations in Greece, I will dance for you all night, shaking my butt, moving my hips and jiggling my breasts. and then you will impregnate me again my little bull."
>>289797843>"Well everyone who tried to stop me failed".Everyone else should've been stronger than. Might makes right in JJK.
>>289797843You forgot to mention seething at his alleged chad brother, but otherwise accurate
>>289797755>Still people thinking Bakugous a gigachad who likes womenPathetic
>>289797566>? Not to mention if he decided act all Kick-Ass and fight bad guys without a quirk out of boredom, not only would he be setting a bad exampleVigilantism is already a bad example. >but he would also be making his friends look bad due to being associated with a retard.It's called a secret identity, you cum dump. See shit like this is why this garbage franchise fundamentally doesn't understand super heroes. More to point, it doesn't understand story telling because the superhero life causing a strain on the personal life of the hero is a core element of it. Spider-man needs to decide if he needs to chase the crook or meet with MJ. When he chooses the one option there are consequences to the other.
>>289797903Enough
>>289798046He is though.
>>289780793Rave bluds...this is our legacy?
>>289787354Mashima knows Haru is a pathetic cuck, so he had his superior MC CHADtsu bail him out to send a message.
>>289798129never happened by the way
>>289786042Hated him since the first episode. Which is a shame since the setting and the animation was pretty good. Him, and the girl (nobara kugisaki) are so fucking annoying. Dropped the anime after the third episode but i kind of want to give it another chance since i heard he stops being the main character of the plot and the girl dies or something
>>289798297I honestly can't think of a single annoying thing about Yuji. Frankly I find him pretty likable compared to other modern protags. Sure he's kinda bland, but at the same time he has some of the most hype moments in the series.
All of these yahoos just make me all the madder Black Torch got shit canned
>>289798136Fairy bluds...this is our legacy?>>289798159Nice samefagging, btw
>>289797755If you cut Deku, made Bakugo the protagonist and gave him an actual arc then the series would probably have been way better
>>289798838>All he has is his doujin and HEADCANONRavecucks...
>>289798136And this.
>>289799047>Black Clover lostSasuga
>>289799015You keep going back to that ONE scene at the third way point of Rave, meanwhile Whorecy has pretty much been a staple of FT from the very beginning. >>289799047Again, nice samefagging.
>>289773976The tail can crush cars. Can you crush a fucking car?
>>289780970Is this the guy who was going to let another dude get away with killing him?
>>289799164Does it hurt to know Lucy alone has more of a legacy than the entirety of Rave? One NTR scene is all its remembered for, otherwise it's just known as 'series that came before FT'.
>>289797922Yeah and I'd maybe respect that if it wasn't absolutely framed as "Might Makes Right is okay but only when it's MY idea of Right, anything else is bad and wrong because the strong should cater to ME not themselves." faggot ass hypocrite shit.Instead the story spends a pile of time lowkey seething about Gojo wanting to enact long lasting change through non-violent cultural turnover instead of just killing people and immediately recreating the problem the moment he's not there to kill people anymore.
>>289776366>>289776391>>289776425>All great MCs like Deku What kind of sociopath must you be to hate heroic characters?
>>289799247The tail isn't going to help him if he gets punched in the face or shot
>>289798934bakcuckgo is just as bad as deku
>>289799247I mean, in MHA where magical supertraining is a thing?Yeah actually, I probably could if I worked out enough, Lemillion pulverizes walls and his power is passing through objects and suffocating while he does it.
>>289788879A crashed plane is generally worse than one that never takes off.
>>289800075Deku is still not the worst by any realistic metric. Read more manga.
>>289769708But enough about Asta
>>289786042This guy is worse than Deku btw.
>>289800425Nah.
>>289800929Funny image choice. This guy is evil, in a disgustingly human way.
>>289798838all the girls in this anime behave like sluts...
The only thing Deku is good for.
>>289799340>One NTR scene>>289787684
>>289801831shounen shit has always been pretty gay as a genre but deku was a special kind of faggot
>>289780793Why is she hugging him? Is she enjoying it?
>>289798111>"Mineta-sama you're so naughty.... staring at my butt like this during my exercices, we will do it again... right now... come here"
>>289772056If the protagonist was the worst character, nobody would watch/read it, they take up 89% of the screentime
>>289775337That's exactly why Ichigo sucks past the first arc though; he doesn't fucking do anything. Most of the stuff that happens in the story has nothing to do with him. Stuff just happens on its own and he reacts to it. Gohan failed at replacing Goku for exactly that reason
>>289802490There's a reason why Bleach was axed.
Deku suffered from MHA's lack of focus. He was made for a completely different story than what MHA ended up becoming.
>>289796927>we don't even know what his "ultimate technique" is or doesThese people have retarded takes because they are actually retarded. Anon, a domain expansion applies the user's technique as a sure hit. This is both basic and repeated ad nauseum throughout the story. Yuji's domain applies his Dismantle and we SEE it hit. To hate on Yuji you have to be retarded.
>>289802591it wasn't tho
>>289803020>To hate on Yuji you have to be retardedWell, /dbg/ IS full of retards.
>>289802161Deku's homosexual desire was intentional, but editors didn't let Hori go all-in with it.
>>289788114>canonically loses his personality for some reason and becomes even more bland
>>289791382>ruined not only his body, but also generations of effort of his predecessors>Korra-level achievementdamn. I didn't think of that. He deprived all future generations of a great hero.
>>289796927>no real outgoing personality for the most partActually, he is great at parties and easily makes friends with people. Remember the ghost nerds he was friends with too. He actually befriends almost everyone he meets in the first meeting, besides villains of course.
>>289772056I like Okarun in dandadan. Good blend of pathetic woth agency over his fate.The fact that Momo would want him is pure fiction but ig not every manga has to be written by a blackpilled truecel.
MHA OC concept: Late Quirk-Bloomer who spent his youth being a shithead delinquent and picking fights with quirked individuals due to an innate sense of inferiority, lashing out, et cetera. Basically just getting fucked up trying to push his fingers into the eyes of a kid who can turn his skin to rock and is an asshole about his ability to do so, et cetera. HS dropout, at some point picks up a fight with a guy who has an actually decent and hero-grade quirk, is about to die, then his own ability kicks in and he immediately gets classified as a villain because he just used it on another person Either he kills a guy, or uses it to defend himself from a showboat with a provisional license depending on how edgy you want it.Role in the story: Sympathetic villain, works as a parallel to Deku showing what might happen to someone with similar roots who nontheless lacks the inherent goodness in their heart. A bit if a debate whether it's Le Society at fault or the kid for not having accepted quirklessness or whatever Thoughts?
>>289771955>Well, we will save her until we have a wedding BUT WE WILL NEVER USE SPIRAL POWER MORE IT IS TOO DANGEROUS except for right now of course.
>>289804333What
>>289804938I still don't get it. To that point every conflict was NO HUMANS CAN ACHIEVE THIS! And then in the last five minutes, eh maybe there are limits. Sorry I got all my teammates killed on a rescue mission.>Hur durr you can't use it to raise the dead.There's a world of difference between dead and dying.
>>289773377I hope *Choujin X* gets an anime adaptation and i hope they don't ruin it like they did with *Tokyo Ghoul*.
>>289803170You'd need to be retarded to hype up this bumass.
>>289807067I just hope it happens once Ishida is already done with the manga.
>>289769708you haven't seen much
>>289807445Jesus, I completely forgot how pathetic Denji was.
>>289807445Hqrd to be angry at denji.He is a good mc that was character assasinated by the mangaka who spit on his previous personality and character arc just for the sake of the themes and Shart Poo.He is like Eren, a good character that got retroactive ruined rather than a bad one to begin with
>>289808304>his previous personality>previous
>>289769708It's surreal to think there's huge minority of MHA fan that said the series could've been one of the best shoujo series if the MC is female.
>>289794585Bakugou was half marty stu and half power fantasy in a world where everyone was a naive incompetent moral faggot and he was the only one to flex his dick head ace hero aura.
>>289798129Never happened >>289802324>Posting ai of characters that have never met and athor confirmed every women in the cast hated him and wanted nothing to do with himGo seek help
>>289809006>confirmed every women in the cast hated him and wanted nothing to do with himbakugo?
What is it with you guys and Bakugo's mom?
>>289798934>Shitkugo screaming and having a bad attitude for literally no reason at all when he has a good home life and a super powerful quirk and everyone has always ridden his dick since he was a child would be a good protagonistHe's without a doubt, the worst part of MHA, he has no actual character arc because there's no arc you could even give a character like this. Well, you could, but the only thing I can think of is to basically turn him into Deku anyway.>Take away his quirk>Is forced to humble himself over the course of the story since he doesn't have his strong quirk to back up his shitty attitude and inflate his social standingThe story wouldn't even really be about being a hero anymore, it would be about becoming an average person. Shitkugo doesn't work in a story like MHA at all.
>>289797755>>289810383
>>289808856YesThe meme of him turning into a mindless zombie coomer is real and a huge step down from part 1
>>289810602It's so chainsaw kek fans can relate to him better.
>>289808962I think it would legitimately improve the story massively if Deku was a girl
>>289770191I liked Meliodas at the beginning for being a horndog. He was a nice breath of fresh air from the increasingly asexual shounen protags but he really does end up being just really unlikeable.
>>289769708I genuinely don't know why you guys dislike Deku. He's just a whiny but kind-hearted kid with a strong sense of heroism. There's really nothing to hate about him.
>>289812252so strong that he gives up on being a hero every time he isn't gifted the number 1 superpower in the universe
>>289812252They see their own weaknesses and insecurities reflected in him and are desperately trying to compensate.
>>289770496Vigilantes pretty much mogs main in every single way
>>289810371She is fucking hot and looks like those hot milfs from the 80's with that haircut.no wonder Mineta and Deku are banging her.
>>289807445>Go to a brotherThis would have been incredibly based if they had actually gone through it, maybe FINALLY get the stupid cherry popping out of the way so he could maybe learn to think about something else, but it just turned into another gag followed by the handjob chapter. Katana Man was right.
>>289810371Yeah. Deku's mom is way hotter.
>>289769708problem with this anime was how many restrictions get put on what the main character can do, meanwhile almost all the main villains just kept using their shit with minimal side effects or none at all. Able to regenerate infinitely etc...Meanwhile deku could usually only use one of his things once so he had to make it count and it got fucking old fast.I think his actual character and development was great aside from that shit. I feel like he got fucked out of his own show, the last 2 seasons were mostly the side characters doing everything and he got out shined by everyone and given such a small part.
>>289769708This guy is such a little faggot. Even when they try to make him "cool" hes still lame as fuck. I personally think Deku would be better as a tomboy, can still look boyish feminine like he is right now and being cringe and "cool" can make Deku way more loveable to people who wanna fuck her and to the crowd that loves a female lead.
https://youtu.be/wpOhT35YtWgthis scene still hasn't been surpassed by any that came after
>>289813832Read more manga
>>289813940i'm talking about in mha itself
>>289769708Yeah, he's awful. Lots of things about him irk me on a deeper level.>Zoomer hair>Pansy-ass personality>Trying to empathize with villainsHe's everything i despise in a character
>>289770191Denji is alright. It's great to see a barely funcional retard ruining the 5D plans of ancestral hot ladies
>>289800392You don't have to be the worst to be VERY insufferable. Read more manga and raise your standards.
>>289814140I do have higher standards than for Deku, I just don't think he's remarkable in any way either.
>>289813940Wow. Is this Akame Ga Kill? :D
>>289797755I dislike bakugo because of his personality.
>>289812252>Bland>Gets gifted the strongest quirk in existence and the show sells him as the underdog >Despite already having the strongest quirk in existence he gets 6 other broken quirks Being a good guy doesn't mean being a good character.
>>289783582The PERFECT ending is literally just to cap his OfA output at 5% and make him into a low tier scrub with a heart of gold.What was Horikoshi even thinking man
>>289812252He's genuinely a cool character until Bakugo beats his ass and he kowtows and fellates his bully.That's an unfathomable fucking writing decision what the fuck are you even supposed to take away from it
>>289786042Chihiro is a promising new newgen, unless Hokazono cucks him right at the end.
>>289801831
>>289813832https://youtu.be/wlE7KOUXYQYAhem.
>>289771955Deku not only had a better ending but he actually kills his human enemies
>>289799501>>289800038Good thing people with quirks are durable and Mirio has a quirk as well
>>289802490>Ichigo takes out every main villain >this doesn’t count as doing something Bait used to be believable
>>289818874The actual plot has nothing to do with Ichigo.
>>289799501The tail literally tanked a metal finger drill, but then, MHA is one of those series where some feats feel like complete bullshit. At the same time, Iida shows to have in only a couple of months, gone from slower than OG Tensei to faster than Gran Torino, so power creep can be bullshit, too. Take Momo's team jobbing to Kendo's, and Shinso mastering a 6 year weapon in 6 months, and you get a whole arc of bullshit. Like, almost every conflict feels inorganic for the sake of pushing plot forward. I get it happens in most anime, but goddamn man that was one after another after another. There's a limit.
>>289819927the power level development actually felt decent for the first halfthe problem was decent development left us in a spot where Deku had gradually raised his power level to about 25% right before the final battle arcs were due to start so he hit the OH SHIT button and gave him 6 gorillion new powers
>>289804800It's a nice idea, but if Hori wasn't able to address his own setting, you'd better have some answers.
>>289819273So you’re implying every other MC is involved with every plot point in the story?
>>289813832I’m only on Season 3 but United States of Smash?And All-Might vs. Nomu is from before and is at least as good
>>289819273Yeah because all of it except for the Fullbringer arc is stuff that has been building up from before he got powers. That’s not a bad thing, it’s good worldbuilding that makes the setting feel like it has an actual history albeit perhaps overdone
>>289819927Gran Torino is old and quirks grow stronger with each generation
>>289821050>quirks grow stronger with each generation (unless its All For One who is from the OG generation and is the strongest ever)
>>289810383>He's without a doubt, the worst part of MHA, he has no actual character arc because there's no arc you could even give a character like this.The problem isn't that there's nothing you can do with this character there's actually something you very obviously should have done. Bakugo needed a romance. A romance that's not Deku and that's why they won't do it. He's the Guy Gardner of the team. He's the asshole everyone needs to deal with. But while Guy Gardner got punched, put down, called out, he also developed, he fell in love with Ice, he was, as a result a more complete character. Everyone just pretty much ignores or rolls with Bakugo's shit. And this is kind of another problem with the series. Every character is just generically and blandly friendly with each other. There's no Booster Beetle dup. There's no Dibny couple. There's no real inter personal development, romantic or friendship. Everyone pretty much has the same personality. The JLI era was just a really good book. Is my point.
>>289821050Tenya and Tensei are the same generation. How is Tensei losing to Man Bat and Tenya's outpacing sound? Same genetics. Far less training.
>>289821376AfO has a million quirks and can even combine them to increase the power of his attacks
>>289822053Iida is not in the same generation when Tensei is 15 years older
Deku is cute, gays and women love him
>>289769743I once agreed with this but at this point I don't think he's hated enough, actually. And it has nothing to do with the fucking crying it's the fact that even by the end of the series he's an empty shell of an MC that barely feels like an actual character at all
>>289822561They literally have the same mom and dad. Biologically, they are the same generation.
>>289769708>>289769743>>289770191that award goes to subaru,infinitely more insufferable. the every arc of RE:SHIT devolves into an idiot plot regarding the mc.
>>289812252I constantly see him suck cock so I hate him
>>289823116>that should have been ME sucking those cocks!
>>289823116Why are you looking that shit up?
>>289772504you guys need to read an actual good shounen series like world trigger, or kekkaishi.there are many series where a weak protagonist shines without receiving any op powerup or becoming a whiny loser.
This thread
>>289816827Deku would've been better if he was girl.
>>289769743this. i've seen worse MCs than deku. look at how much ash from pokemon has regressed
>>289818795That's fanon and is never once actually suggested to be a thing.
>>289775528He's better by the simple merit that he isn't a bitch who cries 24/7 like Decuck
>>289823653>Deku*Bakugo
The story wastes so much time on underdeveloped side characters that Deku himself ends up underdeveloped too.
>>289826274Like, for as much people complain about Naruto neglecting its supporting cast, at least they got just enough to endear people to them, and they didn't get in the way of the characters that mattered
>>289799047>RWBY lost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylLLPBhUWgQOh man I have some bad news for you....
>>289822053Don't think too hard about it. Hori sure didn't.
>>289821438>Everyone just pretty much ignores or rolls with Bakugo's shit.This is the biggest issue.Past a certain point it literally reads like he's having autistic chris-chan meltdowns and people are just trying to neurotypically go about their day without poking the beehive whenever he gets to do anything on screen lol
>>289826378The anime fillers likely helped there desu even if the majority was shit
>>289826378A big issue with shounen is introducing too many characters too fast. You have all the dorks from the chuunin exam and then all of class A and they were introduced so early the author didn't really think far enough to how he'd use them and then the needs of the story demanded something else so they get ignored. You need to keep your main team small. YuYu Haukusho had four main dudes and a couple girls around to add commentary. Everyone had a use. And even it in the end dropped one.
>>289827882He really does take it too far. Sensitivity can be an endearing quality but you need to give your hero some dignity. It's not even just the crying itself. It's the frequency and how he doesn't just shed tears he becomes a blubbering snot drooling baby. Superheroes crying is hardly an uncommon sight. But you can still cry with dignity. The last page of Avengers 58 is Iconic. But notice, Vision sheds tears because he found people who welcome him even though he's a synthazoid he only does so after everyone leaves the room and he's allowed some privacy. His single stream of tears and lowered head is somber but not degrading and he doesn't cry afterwards for at least a rather long time that I can remember. Deku cries for any and all reason and even in moments where he as genuine cause he looks pathetic.
>>289813026I feel like that last part is the inevitable problem of having too many supporting characters to have to give a spotlight too. We had all of class a, the other school students, the teachers, the pro heroes, civilians, the villains that weren't even the main villains. MHA had way too bloated a cast to properly and authenticly develop, but not giving them anything would cause people to complain their favorite was getting shafted. So you just have this super long bout of Deku being completely out of sight and it makes his moments feel short in the process.
>>289769708Nice, I hate him too. It feels like MHA was made in a lab to be r*ddit:the anime. Don't even get me started on the fanboys glazing him calling him "the embodiment of heroism" when literally every single western superhero mogs him to oblivion. I especially despise how your he's become this "face of anime" type of character who's shoved in news thumbnails and random videos as an "example anume character" when discussing the medium or talking about Japan. A freak like Deku who loves being a government lapdog for a twisted society, punching down but only when he's given the powers to do so on a silver platter, should not be the face of the industry. I'm so glad that 2016/17 era has passed, and now he's a cuckold laughing stock. He deserves that treatment. I was actually happy when that final chapter and the ensuing meltdown happened. He's the type of fraud retard that an actual real MC like Gintoki would expose and BTFO. I'm being dead serious when I say his existence makes his own setting more dangerous and worse off. If the true hero Mirio got OFA, the entire story would be over in a week. He would've saved millions from being killed by Shigaraki, unlike Dekuck. Honestly any guy off the street, including me would do a better job in his place.
I went to go look up quotes about heroism, thinking I'd get lines from people like Churchill regarding the great war or some great philosopher and it was just a lot of retarded MHA stuff. Kind of made me mad.
>>289797566>he be setting a bad exampleMHA is such a dogshit setting kekThey would try and arrest the fucking Justice League for not having a heckin' loiscence with their full legal names for villains to hunt down
>>289829074Yeah this is what I was saying here>>289829031This cuck faggot is way too ridiculously popular and pushed way too hard for how trash he is.
>>289769708I agree. Deku is the worst part of my hero academia.
>>289818574Simon killed the Spiral King, the Beastnen he fought and the AntiSpiral. He never fought humans.
>>289787031Deku punched down so hard when he beat up Gentle for being a fucking youtube prankster of all things. Any other non-hall monitor tattletale NARC mc would have been chill with him and let it slide.
>>289774572The Zangetsu reveal was top notch KuboKINO, take that back.
>>289802490Ichigo chose to chase Orihime to Hueco Mundo just like he chose to Invade the Soul Society. He chose to meet up with Execution because he wanted his powers back so badly he ignored the red flags. He does make plot-shaping decisions.
>>289772666You make friends by walking up tot hem and talking to them. You fuck girls by walking up to them and hitting on them. cope. It works just fine for me.
>>289772622Epstein was a satanic chad who literally sold his very soul to pull off the insane demonic shit he did.
>>289829590The fact that the majority of people today are friendless and single today disproves this.
>>289772782Yes. Magicstraw was pretty good back in the day.
>>289772504> you won't get anywhere in this world without busted cheat skills or inborn genetic prowessThat’s just reality.
>>289772577I did literally everything to form connections, and it never fucking happened, so you're full of shit
>>289829643It may be true, but that doesn't make it a good lesson for a children's manga
>>289773818Shiggy should have had Garou's ideology
>>289774285Yeah, in any other story their society being so fucked would be a serious plot point that is addressed. Not in MHAIDS though lol
>>289776391Deku would try (and fail) to kill himself if he had to go through half of what Subaru does on the regular
>>289774553Where the fuck are his wings? Can he not fly?
>>289788069lol
>>289829792Deku wouldn't be able to rise to the level of Booster Gold.
>>289794539What about the Green Lanterns? Guy Gardner is pretty cool
>>289794539>>289829892He sounds like he needs to read Beta Ray Bill
>>289783713Yes, they are gay pedophiles who unironically believe Deku is the same level of hero as Superman or Ben 10 kek
>>289829930I seriously still don't get how this caught on
>>289788859Gentle bagging LaBrava and retiring rich was the best part of the ending. He should drive by that broke cuck Deku's house to flex.
>>289829969Its charming in its imperfection but nothing mindblowing.
>>289773100Tokio and Choujin X are what MHA and Deku could have been if they were written by an actual man with a spine and brain.
>>289788879I have read plenty of manga. Even fucking Redo of Healer has a better MC than decuck. At least isekaislop MCs are based murderhobos who do whatever they want and nobody can stop them.
>>289829499No, it was gay and retarded and only existed to awkwardly try to justify another training arc that didn't even matter because he ended up just using a shittier looking version of an earlier form to finish Yhwach anyway.
>>289789406Based I love this lil nigga.There's a reason MHAfags hate the only man in their series with actual testosterone (other than endeavour). He actually has a personality.
>>289793086Peter Parker wasn't done spineless nerd, he was an angry chud. Hence the whole "letting a bankrobber go" thing after hex lost his money. He had a massive chip on his shoulder for the longest time
>>289783713Don't even get me started on all their gay little fanfics. They pretend Deku would somehow be some harem chad if he was in any other series, be fucking real. I was so pissed off when I saw some "fanart" of him in KLK. Seriously. Ryuko would spit on him for being such a wimp. Mako is more of a man than him.
>>289797481This. Treat him like Part 1 Naruto.
>>289830308I said it before but I'd be a lot less upset with the current status quo if they remembered one of Peter's biggest character flaws was his temper. He was always mouthing off or acting rash and it biting him in the ass.
>>289830146nobody reads suislop
>>289821438>Every character is just generically and blandly friendly with each other.This really bugged me. It felt like the characters were all teachers or something. Zero spice or conflict at all.
>>289830472It's not as if I want them at each other's throats but a little more nuance and personality to their friendship would be appreciated. It feels like an after school special at times.
>>289801027NTA but how? Can you elaborate? I've never read JJK but this is the most interesting take on it I've heard
>>289771955CHADmon
>>289812734Clown. WE (in this very thread) are better people in real life, more accomplished and happier than SHITku ever was.
>>289820962>All-Might vs. NomuSo dumb The perfect moment for a "heroes have to use their head too" lesson where he threw the ground under it or did anything else other than punch it harder.
>>289823057He is an absolute gigasigma in the IF routes
>>289823116Kek, based
Last twenty or so posts are obviously mostly the same seething retard
>>289830225No way. That final double page spread is the ultimate callback to his inner yhwach spirit saying "only that blade may cut me" all the way back in Soul Society. Also bleach's power system is one of the most discussed portions of the series as a whole, its the most interesting part that people like to talk about.
>>289829621I'm better than other people then. Guess I'm also better than Dekuck, KWAB
>>289829648You gotta looksmaxx too. Life starts at HTN.
>>289829969Ben 10? He's an entertaining character with an interesting unique premise in an interesting world which blends magic and scifi. Also every kid wanted an omnitrix. It's pretty obvious.
>>289830467...Unless you're a gigachad, like me.
>>289830790All me btw
>>289830926Must just be past my time.
>>289830956you mean a gigakekfollowed a manga for years just to get bottom of the barrel slop and>i-i'm sowwy i was burned out after i completely voluntarily made concept art for a game,storyboards for an anime that were thrown out, a calendar with an illustrion a day, illustrations for a poker set and uploaded an art piece at least once weekly on my twitter account
>>289770191putting natsu on there hurts me pretty bad, i love fairy tail
>>289769708All the best shonen stereotypes in one character.
>>289831874Natsu is fine, that poster is a regular in FT threads who seethes that his self-insert (Gray) doesn't get with Lucy and blames Natsu for being her love interest. Ask him about it if he doesn't quote me, it's a fascinating rabbit hole.
>>289832831I hate midget boy leads. Everyone else towers over you. Hit puberty.
>>289772141>>289772504>>289774572>>289829643Man, people take the ideas about these shonen characters way too straight forward and seriously. Most of the main characters in these kind of shows are essentially trickster gods whose words, actions, and powers can't be trusted at face value. Which is the point of magical powers in the first place.>Son Goku from Dragon Ball doesn’t fight for the sake of others, but because he wants to fight against strong guys. So once Dragon Ball got animated, at any rate, I’ve always been dissatisfied with the ‘righteous hero’-type portrayal they gave him. I guess I couldn’t quite get them to grasp the elements of poison that slip in and out of sight among the shadows.The values, actions, and the events of story these characters go through aren't supposed to hold up under a purely logical framework. They're supposed to be questioned. It's part of their tricky nature.
>>289786042https://youtu.be/-VabYsRSrH8?si=9-g1P2s16IlU275SNah, koichi.
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I feel like Deku would have worked better as a villain, as one of the successors of All for one. Like All might telling Deku he can't be a hero should have broken him for good, making himm the perfect bait for All one.
>>289833806why would all for one want that bum?
>>289833257>>Son Goku from Dragon Ball doesn’t fight for the sake of others, but because he wants to fight against strong guys.Son Goku still had a fundamental and deeply rooted sense of right and wrong. Injustice and cruelty angered him and he knew the value of sacrifice. And he absolutely DID on numerous occasion fight for the sake of others and a greater good. There is nothing "trickster god" about any of these characters. That's bullshit. You're making up garbage to try and justify milquetoast losers. >>289833816Because he's vulnerable and and would be easily manipulated.
>>289822897It’s funny to know that he can’t sell without Bakugo. I saw Japanese fans mock him over failing to sell any tickets (for an event iirc I think it was the Eri thing, they’re selling tickets with a duo in a certain district or something) despite being the main character (he was paired with Shigaraki) meanwhile Ochako and Toga managed to outsell him too. One of the most pathetic things about Deku is that people mainly prefer his bully despite how shitty he was portrayed before he apologized (in the last arc no less)
>>289833860>Because he's vulnerable and and would be easily manipulated.manipulated into what? he can't DO anything AFO already has shiggy at that point
>>289830146The parallels between Tokio and Deku are so funny given the insane rift in terms of their writing quality>actually has a reason for being a directionless weakling because of his mother's death leaving him mentally scarred since early childhood because it was his wish that killed her and he's afraid of wishing for anything anymore>lives in the shadow of his best friend, but unlike Bakugo, Azuma is a very complicated and multilayered character>gets a superpower from the mad omega level mutant of the setting, but only gains a small chunk of her power, more importantly, it gives him focus in life because he realizes he likes helping people>tries making himself useful even when he's an absolute greenhorn, spends the first few introductory arcs without even fighting directly because he's terrible, stil manages to save lives through unortodox thinking>ponders on the nature of power and responsibility a lot the same way many classical superheroes do, refuses to just accept One For All tier power >realizes that he cannot half-ass his life, drops out of school, leaves all his friends and relatives, travels to a not-Gotham to fight crime under a supervision of a sociopathic Johan Liebert-tier commander and strategist who makes a soldier out of him>returns as a competent field agent and fighter, his teacher constantly forces him to break his limit by throwing him to the wolves and seeing what happens>only keeps growing and maturing from that point, saves a girl who starts crushing on him like mad, fixes her shit life and trains her, opens up to her about his childhood trauma>confronts the person who gave him his powers, actually manages to bond with her, proves himself worthy in her eyes without fighting her>3 years later, became a number one fighter in the region all through his own merit, leads a squad of cutthroats, looks and acts like younger Gintoki, starts willingly filling in gaps of his base school education
>>289833257You must've not been paying attention. Once goku knew the red ribbon army was going to kill the villagers and explode android 8 he knew he had to stop them. Its not because he wanted to fight
>>289834408Not to mention how he promised the native kid he’d gather the balls to resurrect his dad which involved going against the army
>>289832930It always goes back to shipping with you "people", doesn't it? Nevermind that a character actually is terrible and uninspired.
>>289770191Togashi and I both love Natsu.
>>289835585>TogashiHow's Hiatus X Hiatus coming along?
>>289835665Making more progress than your rewrites, remember those? :)
>>289769708If only he had an edgy(like I smirk and grin like a cocky asshole way) normally seen in ironically bakugou and plenty of delinquent Shonen heroes or rough badass bastard factor seen in Luffy or even Yuji and Asta when it came to projecting his toughness confidently, he'd be more respected. Shonen Heroes get their appeal by being the man who we want to be and who we are determined to live as(tough and resilient bastard who can steal the show from any situation) and learning the lessons of protecting others and improving oneself.
>>289812795>Mineta and DekuBoth died virgins no matter how much you self insert
>>289821438> Bakugo needed a romance.Nah he needed a rival that humbled and made him sort of work on himself as a character and who could banter back at his audacity like Vergil or Shadow type, which should have been Shoto but Hori made him to stoic and withdrawn, never gave him a type of competitive and calm competent personality your typical blue oni rival gets.
>>289809569And grapes
>>289824954His fatal assaults about friendship to others and cult whorship about his guild makes just as worst.
>>289832930Natsu is a shitty lazy fumble of Shonen hero conventions that shows the cliche really has no where to go but marketability for the lowest consumers who wants a always fight and win out the ass beast barbarian man child. He's garbage and insults Pic related.
>>289835585>is not escaping the Luffy ripoff allegations
All for One should have won
>>289836077>>289836102Here he is now. THAT poster mentioned >>289832930. Versus lost. Natsu won.
>>289836206>tdlrCope, nobody likes Natsu
>>289836206>Where is Natsu's statue in japans version of Hollywood walk of fame>Where was Natsu's in the 2020 Olympics representing the country as the entire iconic host with other Japanese fictional legends>Worrying about some dudes sexuality when Luffy relevance to every Shonen convention trancends Natsu existenceCope and seethe
>>289836077>>289836102>>289836584>>289836584>IMG_XXXXYou're having another Natsu induced melty btw.
>>289833865Deku never fell below second place in popularity polls, so I highly doubt any of this happened.
>>289805627I don't have any doubt that Hori wanted to make Bakugo and Deku a couple, or at the very least, a pair of exes; but they didn't let him.>>289823116That's odd; the reaction most people have is to laugh at him for being a pathetic bitch or fap at him taking his rightful place as his classmates' cumdumpster.
>>289837116People only liking Deku next Bakugo and a majority of fans preferring him over Deku is something I can believe
>>289837215>People only liking Deku next BakugoSaar, substantiate your claim
>>289833860>there is nothing "trickster god" about any of these characters. The monkey king was a trickster God who went around messing up Chinese heaven and did stuff like removing all the names of monkeys from the book of Life and death making them immortal.Goku is absolutely a trickster in the way he acts during fights and somewhat outside of it. He constantly innovates his fighting moves to get around stronger enemies and breaks through enemy techniques. He manipulates his biological transformations to get around stronger opponents. And it's very obvious he has a penchant for mischief over justice. He willingly sympathizes with irredeemable villains who deserve to be destroyed based on them giving him a good fight. He willingly puts the world at risk multiple times for interesting fights from z to super.
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>>289838011This anon caused a shitstorm on Xitter for making these AI images kek
The only good ending btw
>>289812252>a whiny but kind-hearted kid with a strong sense of heroismThese characters are always the lamest.
>>289830472>This really bugged me. It felt like the characters were all teachers or something. Zero spice or conflict at all.It's HR friendly.
>>289837425Goku is not the monkey king. He is based on him and he's resourceful in a fight but that doesn't make him a trickster god. >And it's very obvious he has a penchant for mischief over justice.Only to a point of lower threats. And he's still motivated by justice. He's still motivate by a selfless duty to help.>He willingly puts the world at risk multiple times for interesting fights from z to super.Yeah and people say he devolved as a character for a reason. And seriously? Super? That's what you want to go with? You're an idiot.
>>289830431>one of Peter's biggest character flaws was his temper. He was always mouthing off or acting rash and it biting him in the ass.
>>289769708>>289769743The big problem with Deku aside from his crybaby streak is that the narrative is insistent that he's the most heroic dude anyone's ever seen, and every character will tell you so. Horikoshi, and perhaps the anime writers, needed to let Deku's actions speak for themselves more. This also bleeds into more minor things like All Might glazing him for Shoot Style. Deku never did anything cooler than shooting air bullets off of Gentle's invisible trampolines. Considering his feats later in the story, that's concerning.
>>289838706>Try to refute anon>Post panel of Spider-Man losing his temper
>>289838800I'm pretty confident he was agreeing with me actually. Quick being in such a rush for an argument.
>>289769708>>289838730I'd actually say the issue is that you, and everyone like you, do not believe in good - an objective good - and that intent is more important than action. Deku's weak temperament matters more than all of the objective good he has done. I bet you all would claim Homelander is a better person than him.
I dont careHori could draw some THICC thighs so all is forgiven
>>289839095brother what in the name of god are you talking about. stop schizoing out
>>289839258The point is that people only hate Deku as a protagonist because he didn't earn power and was given it. This completely ignores all the good he did with the power he was given. Ergo, the people criticizing him care not a whif about good only moralizing.
>>289839468Most super heroes don't earn their powers. They're accidental. >This completely ignores all the good he did with the power he was given. Whatever it is you think he did it wasn't as much as you think he did.
>>289838308You forgot the other one.If we all hate Deku so much, take that sissy off the front llines PERMANENTLY.
>>289772504To be fair, in Avengers: Doomsday the MCU is going to reveal that abandoning the modern era to impregnate Hayley Atwell is going to get their timeline pruned by time jannies, so Loki will help him escape, and this will somehow kill Dr. Doom's family and maybe end his universe. So Dr. Doom is going to steal Loki's powers and hunt down Steve to make his life a living hell in revenge.So the actual moral, at least in the movies, is that the universe will actively punish you for being a good person while continuously rewarding the vile.
>>289839550>Most super heroes don't earn their powers. They're accidental.Which is completely irrelevant to the topic of Deku who was literally given his power via All Might.>Whatever it is you think he did it wasn't as much as you think he did.By whose metric - yours? And how do you determine good or good enough? All the people Deku has affected and saved who in turn saved others? Is that truly not good enough for you?
>>289839095I'm not talking strictly about his morals, it's the narrative's refusal to let up on the ball-licking. I don't entirely agree with Shiggy's character arc and the sympathetic light cast on Toga, but those are issues with the plot and not Deku's character writing.
>>289840780Not going to comment on the issues with Shiggy or Toga/ the plot as I have my own issues but in regards to Deku:By your metric, every story licks the balls of its protagonist. What is so odious about someone who wants to good but is weak is suddenly given the greatest power on the planet and does good with it?
>>289841019>What is so odious about someone who wants to good but is weak is suddenly given the greatest power on the planet and does good with it?The fact he didn't try to work for it until he was promised the power. Captain America didn't stop applying for the military.
>>289841513And, so what? If Deku saves a million people and Captain America saves a million people, who is more good to you?
>>289841513>>289841664To add on, how exactly does one earn the greatest power on the planet? At what point has a character self-flagellated enough for the audience to say, "Yes, protagonist, you have suffered enough for me to deem you a good character."
>>289841019>By your metric, every story licks the balls of its protagonistTo a degree, I just feel like there are way too many moments where people are just dumbfounded by how generous/kind/heroic/amazing Deku is. And while I understand that him being a dork with no aura but a lot of heart is the point of his character, I think he could have had his ideology challenged more or undergo some kind of development that wasn't strictly related to his powers.
>>289841019>What is so odious about someone who wants to good but is weak is suddenly given the greatest power on the planet and does good with it?I don't think Deku is a bad person I think he's incredibly egotistical and considers himself entitled to be the number 1 hero. If he doesn't think he can be number 1 he won't try. He very clearly views being an average c-tier street hero as something that's beneath him.
>>289839664Unholy
>>289842995First of all, that isn't true; for most of the series, Deku considers himself blessed to even be in the position he's in. He helps others not because he's powerful but because he knows it's the right thing to do.Second of all, the Dark Deku arc directly addresses this. He can't handle it on his own, he can't be the greatest hero on the planet because he's just not built for it - he's not All Might and that's fine.
>>289842995>I think he's incredibly egotistical and considers himself entitled to be the number 1 hero.I can't even think of a single moment in the series that would make you think this.
>>289841513Deku was going to apply to UA regardless too thoughWhy do so many posts in here read like cliffnotes lol
>>289843873He literally gives up on being a hero and refuses to do anything until he's gifted a super suit
>>289829930sex with Ben
>>289842993Saying other characters are dumb-founded by Deku's heroic acts is a bit uncharitable when every single time it results in the character questioning their own idea of heroism and changing in order to better fulfill it.
>>289843997They live in a time of relative peace and there's absolutely no getting around the fact that quirkless people are a liability when it comes to heroism. Also he has dialog where he states he would have wanted to teach regardless, but that's post-final chapter. Maybe even anime only.>>289844063Which makes him a catalyst for the development of other characters while he remains relatively flat good boy with a huge redemption boner. I think other stories strike a better balance.
>>289769708>>289769743The main problem with Deku that he's a basic bitch. At first he was really interesting, being a loser kid that was given power of God, but had no way to control it is a really fun conflict, like a non-depressing hulk/ghost rider. However, after the first half of the series, when he starts to gain better control of one for all, he starts to lose everything that made him interesting in favor of being a milquetoast paragon of hope that hangs out with an obnoxious screaming banshee and an emotionless emo kid.
>>289844266How exactly do you envision Deku should develop? From the very beginning, All Might states that Izuku has the right mindset of a true hero just not the capability to do much good. At its very core, MHA is about the limits of heroism and that is definitively what Deku learns as the series goes on. A hero can save thousands of people from a disaster, they can stop a villain from hurting people, but what they can't do is prevent suffering from ever happening.
>>289838659It's disingenuous to act as if fighting isn't the main form of character expression in the genre. Goku constantly makes his opponents underestimate his fighting ability and then turns things around through wit and being inventive with his power set. And he constantly sees through enemy tricks.>Only to a point of lower threatsHe literally attempts to let freeza go after he effectively destroys the planet. He let Gero assemble his super androids and cyborgs and gave Cell a senzu bean to make Gohan fight him at full power. He let Vegeta walk away after their first battle. And he let piccolo walk away despite kami pointing out how much of a menace he was. All of this was before super but was more emphasized in some of his actions during super. He literally valued fighting over something like justice.Anyway, Goku is the template of a trickster God in a relatively less complicated fighting format. If we get into the other battle shonen anime that followed, it becomes way more obvious that the main characters are tricksters given how dense the combat gets and magical powers are emphasized at every moment. Kind of given when looking at ninjas and superheroes. Literally just excuses to throw in combat wizards.
>>289844681In essence, heroes and suffering are intrinsically connected.
>>289834177When this gets an anime it deserves the best possible treatment. Seriously it should be treated like early MHA was.
>>289845101This is exactly it. What made Deku so cool in the early seasons was his constant suffering from the whiplash of OFA. After they introduced full cowling his likeability took a nosedive.
>>289844681If he doesn’t have a place to develop from surely you can understand why people find him lacking as a protagonist He never has to deal with the public knowing he had All Might’s powerHe never has to deal with pushback regarding wanting to “save” Shigaraki, who had a body count before Deku even said the words Maybe even someone he “saved” relapsing on villainy Just something to challenge his ideals. He is morally exemplary and a great hero for it but it’s the same reason people get bored of Superman
>>289845223I really hope Ishida somehow gets Science Saru to adapt it. Fits their style perfectly.
>>289838706>Silence, neophyte!Kek, why couldn't the movies make Thor act like this
>>289833816Because All for One would think it was another great way to torment All Might. His logic is basically entirely "Wouldn't it be funny" and "I wanna be the Demon Lord" which justifies a lot of the whackier shit he does over the course of the series. Man literally goes out of his way to be petty and evil to absurd degrees because he likes the vibe.
>>289841664Captain America obviously because Deku would beg a million people to bang Ochako in front of him afterwards.
>>289845372While I won't say what you're asking for is unreasonable, none of what you suggest would appreciably affect the story's thesis. Western comics can get away with exploring multiple angles of the idea of heroes due to their long and storied history. While I wish and believe MHA should have been longer, I do believe it handled it's message and characters admirably.
>>289836878>>289836714
>>289836878>IMG_XXXX
>>289845789It's about enhancing the thesis, not changing it. And if we're just talking about time you could fix everything.I'd give a nut to give Iida more screen time. The entire series gaslights you into believing Bakugo is Deku's best friend when it's this dude.
>>289821438If anything, Bakugo felt weirdly asexual. I'd expect him to say some shit like "I don't have time to be distracted by some stupid girl" before I'd expect him to fall in love. But yeah, it kinda bothered me how friendly everyone always was with each other. Most of 1A has no reason to exist in the story at all, the girls are obviously all there to sell merch, but since 1A was already supposed to be the class for the top tier students they should have made it way smaller. Remove all the male classmates from 1A aside from Bakugo, Todoroki, Ida, and Kirishima, since they all do little to nothing and realistically do not have top tier quirks, and make the rest of them have real relationships with each other rather than having them all just be generically polite to each other.
>>289829833He's got a hoverboard, alright?
>>289847238>removing Tokoyamiholy SHIT taste
>>289834177Unrelated to your points, but my "problem" with Tokio as a protagonist is that his character arc already feels finished at this point. He's not a bad character by any means, but I admittedly find him less interesting than Azuma or Ely because they just have more stuff going on rn.
>>289847569His arc is not going to be finished until he takes the Mark and responsibility that comes with it. He still tiptoes around, and i think this is going to cause him a lot of pain, since Ely is getting completely mindbroken by the Mark, and the other valid heir is his love interest who should never have this kind of power because of her naive and impulsive personality.
>>289847464I was considering leaving him in 1A but at that point it felt like 1A still be too big. I think we could just add Ida's backstory to Todoroki's, as well as the class president title, and just do away with Ida to make room for Tokoyami.
>>289847725But that's the thing. From Tokio's perspective, having Ely take the Mark is a logically sound decision. There's not much in-story evidence to suggest that Tokio would actually be doing a better job than her if he had the Mark instead.Like, the narrative overtly goes out of its way to frame Sora as a mirror / psuedo-maternal figure to Tokio and we saw first-hand how much her powers mentally fucked her up.
>>289844266>quirkless people are a liability when it comes to heroismthis will never be believable when half the pro heroes have quirks that can be replicated by a guy with training and/or a tool or weapon.
>>289848165Literally whoAlso, if you're saying he needs tools to be successful, you're just conceding to the point he needed the suit.
>>289848165I like how one kid's quirk is literally just having a tail. If having a tail can get you place in 1A then it seems more like the world revolves around people who are just generally physically fit moreso than people with special quirks.
>>289848064I think whether Tokio is going to be a worthy heir is the ultimate question of the story. The fact there are valid arguments for Ely to be a Mark bearer only makes it more interesting, but i don't think that running away from responsibility is portrayed as a good thing for Tokio either. Since he's a legit heir, he could literally wipe Gueltans off the map if he had this power instead of "merely" being an ace fighter.
>>289797313nani?
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>>289769743He's not hated enough. I despise characters that are all good and don't have an edge to them. Characters that have the "If the villain has even a flicker of good in them then I'll go out of my way to redeem them no matter how long and tedious the entire endeavor is!" mentality are insufferable.
>>289848310already addressed in this thread, that tail can crush a car
>>289848496I also don't think insisting on placing everything on his own shoulders without regard for logic is a good thing for Tokio either.Like, that is exactly what Sora did. And we saw how that turned out.
>>289848709Never happened by the wayHe might have blasted into Kirishima a few times though
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>>289848786It's cool when the story actually has a dilemma people can argue about without a single correct answer, i think ultimately this is what this story is going to explore.And on a grand scale, it's an interesting spin on omega level mutant stories in general: you have a setting where a single superhuman per generation grows into a demigod and shapes his own era, but the very nature of their powers means they are always going to monkey paw themselves in some way because no human is perfect, and the strongest superhumans are shaped by their complexes and obsessions the most. Tokio approaches this power like a responsible adult instead of turning into Magneto or becoming Paul Atreides. Maybe he's going to find some other answer.
>>289848165Just Stain existing ruins any argument for "you need a quirk to do hero work". Dude could wipe the floor with pro heroes and do completely inhuman shit without using his quirk at all.
>>289848783Yeah but so can Eraserhead or Knuckleduster and they just work out.
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>>289849282Explain why Uraraka befriended a literal serial killer because she had a bad childhood. There's levels to edgy. Letting civilians is one extreme while trying to reason with mass murderers because they have daddy issues is on the other end.
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>>289769743>Imagine if the MC developed an unhealthy attachment to every villain he meets in order to try to turn them into good guys again! Like Naruto with Sasuke! Wouldn't that be awesome!No, it fucking wouldn't. Deku deserves the hatred that he gets
>>289849554I actually just wanted to post that image because:>I despise characters that are all good and don't have an edge to them.... and I thought that was a funny response. I should watch the original Kamen Rider some time, it looks fucking wild.Really, I do get what you're saying, though I'd say that Jonathan Joestar is an example of that kind of 'savior' done correctly, because he does actually just kill plenty of the foul villains he's encountered, and he's on a quest to to kill Dio Brando. Those two have this dynamic of Dio being a grealy charismatic, cunning, and fearsome villain who can seduce people towards his dark side, whereas Jonathan, his counterpart, is so noble, pure, and goodhearted, that sometimes, he actually convinces lowly thugs or fallen heroes to see the light and change their ways.I haven't actually read/watched BNHA in ages, but aside from it just not being that kind of story, it lacks that sort of dynamic, which is what you would need to actually need to make that sort of hero work narratively.Otherwise you get this stupid disconnect where Deku is readily willing to give these completely rotten villains chances and benefits of the doubt that they haven't really earned.Somewhat comparable to Batman and Superman on that point, though much of that is the fault of the publisher insisting on returns to status quos, because sometimes you actually GET an interesting story arc where a villain DOES learn to turn around and change their life, but because capeslop is capeslop, that kind of character development is inevitably mandated to be undone in some contrived manner or another (or outright rebooted). In Deku's case, that's not what's happening I think, and it's Hori's lack of imagination for how to write an actually good goody-two-shoes hero.
>>289849112>without using his quirk at all.Never happened, he always ingested their blood
>>289849554I don't appreciate the way Horikoshi wrote it as them being girlfriends but I chalk that up to his incompetence in writing women in general. Uraraka just felt the same sympathy for her that Deku did for Shiggy.
>>289793628Kaiju could be great...
>>289843891>Deku was going to apply to UA regardless too though>Why do so many posts in here read like cliffnotes lolHe didn't even train for it. How do you want to go to hero school and do ZERO training? Yeah, you're at a disadvantage thanks to no powers. But that doesn't mean you still can't get stronger, faster and smarter. Just gotta put in more work than anybody else to play catch up.
>>289845278>After they introduced full cowling his likeability took a nosedive.Because he sucked from the getgo and him getting fucked up was carrying him HARD. Peter Parker he is not.
Bro lost nobody. Not his mom, not All Might, not Uraraka or Bakugo. How is he supposed to be the quintessential hero if he suffers no tragedies?
>>289775528>Natsu shillersIt's literally just one fag lmao.
>>289851483The only powerless hero that works is Batman, because he's a genius billionaire. Deku isn't that, he's just a normal teenager. To make a quirkless Deku work, you'd have to make him so much smarter than everyone else that his intelligence functionally becomes a quirk in and of itself.
>>289851785>you'd have to make him so much smarter than everyone else that his intelligence functionally becomes a quirk in and of itself.So Iron Man.
>>289851785>Batman, because he's a genius billionaireSo is Iron Man.
The main problem is that the characters don't stand for anything. I know some say they do, but in practice it's just another kids show where they compete with each other to be #1. Even the villains don't have any substantial purpose to matter on their own.So it's basically another gimmick like Naruto using Ninjas, One Piece using Pirates, MHA just did the same concept but used Superheroes. They could have picked pop idols, monster hunters, or race drivers and it would have the same effect.These characters don't care about what they can do for others. The entire story is about what they can do for themselves to be better than their peers. It's like if the X-Men didn't fight for co-existence, but fought to have Cyclops' spot as the leader.
>>289853270Just watch Kamen Rider
>>289769708Watch more than 10 anime then
>>289851641what titles to watch then?
>>289853463Dunno
>>289847238>I'd expect him to say some shit like "I don't have time to be distracted by some stupid girl"Even that much would imply he at least noticed them.
