Togashi's Troupe english translation dump
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>>289802585Things are finally moving? Goddamn. I thought we'd never see the day.I hope the next four chapters are just non-stop violence and escalation.
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>>289802715CHILLS...
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>>289802790Don't post images in the middle of a dump dumbass
>>289802884BTFOhe will never recover from this
>>289802900The dump that shouldve been in the other thread? Shut up retard
>>289802900he posted nardo, he means to be a dumbass
>>289802916Not my fault a retard started a thread too early.
Finally some decent scans
>>289802664Arabs with their shit AI upscales removed the corpses from this page...
Cocky old hag
>>289802787>it's likely a kanji conversion errordidn't they try this same shit with shit with shimanu and looked like complete fools afterwards? what's with translators thinking they know better japanese than the authors themselves?
>>289802646Old hag had it coming
>>289802817STRONG BEN?
>>289802694>LocalizationTrash.
>>289802994https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw
>>289802715Damn Naruto eyes
>>289802646Cammy drew first.
>>289803145kek
>>289802650>I hope the next four chapters are just non-stop violence and escalation.
>>289802938According to the clock, I made the thread >>289802211 at the same time as this post >>289802198 about 560 posts (page 7 iirc) so no, i didn't make the thread "too early" faggot.
>>289802646https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqMX3o4SFyMRIP Granny
>>289803145Very nice
>>289803182Yeah, I know, we're going back to word x word next chapter, just let me dream.
>>289803195No one cares, your thread sucks dick
>the princes want him>the hunters want himThe most important character
>>289802646Those bullets? Emitted. That's why they flew back so far.
>>289803069That's probably done in response to that, they don't know if Togashi is being literal here and Tserriednich has a coffin off to the side or if he just wants Salkov to take the body out of sight.
>>289803212I have no problem with you thread, just clarifying your bullshit since you're too retarded to look in the catalog.
>>289803216But do women want him?Do fish fear him?
>>289802867Where are the sweat droplets on Benjamin's face? Fake scans!
>>289803198I don’t think it’s just going to be standing around Yap x yap, but I think there’s going to be a lot of dialogue. I can picture a page of Benjamin and his team frantically running after someone with text bubbles all around , for example
>>289802834Rape tattoo guy is here?
>>289803260You can probably imbue the bullets with Nen and make them stronger, I wonder if it works for a shotgun though
>>289802646>She didn't learn shit from the first timeBenjamin tanking her pathetic pistol shots will always bring a smile to my face. RIP granny though, shame she hitched her ride to a retard like Cammy>>289802734>>289802749Local prince not so cocky when they realized they won't be starving to death anymore>>289802817>I'll serve as the front line...My KING continues to be a man worth dying for.
This is pretty cool
>>289802849The fact that after all this Benjamin is willing to work with Kurapika is kind fun. He's pragmatic above all else when his mind is focused.
>>289802834I like how he was expecting to in guns blazing but instead all of Tse's guards and attendants are complying with the martial law declaration, so he has no legal reasons to shoot them.
>>289802646I like that they get hit so hard they're sent flyingYou can also see a bit of their bodies in the next page
>>289803216Don't forget that readers want him on their dicks as well.
>>289802867How can Tserriednich talk while on zetsu ? Isn't he supposed to have his conscience transported somewhere else and see the scene from outside once his zetsu starts ? Then where from is he talking ?
What going on in Furykov's head right now?
>>289803701No way fag, I'm loyal to Cammy
>>289802694Dont know if anyone pointed this out yet but the curses here kinda look like the ones haunting fuugetsu
>>289803716He saw himself talking in the future, and so spoke the words he saw in his forecast. He's at such an absurd level of control that no stimulus can break his Zetsu, even speech.
>>289802849Kurapikabros, our job prospects keep going up...
>>289802715>Camilla can just hibernate for 3 months like some kinda lizard person creaturelol wtf
>>289802964Ikr and it's not that page only. All those scans on this thread are over-whitened and the shadows have faded. The brownish early leaks scans looked better
>>289802945Benjamin used to barely look human
>>289803385Shu with a decent talent in Emission would cover that nicely.
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>>289803718>I want to suck Benjamen's cock so bad...
>>289803196was that really granny?
>"yeah, i'm going to shoot ben with this gun"soit cleary won't work, but can he shoot him while in king crimson mode?
>>289802585Special Martial Law is being emitted.
What makes this martial law so special anyway it seems pretty ordinary to me
>>289804099What's ordinary about summary executions?
>>289804044He’s going to shoot Salkov to keep his ability a secret
>>289804158During martial law? Par for the course, to be expected even. What makes this martial law special compared to regular martial law?
so is benjamin actually planning to kill all the princes with martial law? because future ben says 4 princes left 'unaccounted for' not 'alive', so it's not clear if he killed the others, plans to kill them, or just wants to put them in jail or some lame shit. so far his plan amounted to absolutely nothing
>>289804099It's special because it's an emitter ability.
>>289804216>his plan amount to nothingJesus Christ. Why are you people such faggets. The plan started 2 chapters ago.
>>289804044He obviously wanted to shoot Ben while in his own world, he is still figuring out his ability. It most likely seems he can't hurt others during it.
>>289804216Cammy is on a clock as of this chapter. And nobody, sane or insane, could predict that Tserri has KC as his Hatsu.
>>289804216>Dealt withTse and Cammy>Probably dead or in bad shapeTyson, Tubeppa and Fugetsu>UnaccountedZhang Lei, Luzurus, Marayam and Woble (+Halkenburg, but it's impossible to tell at the time)
>>289802715>>289802734>"Camilla I know you know nen and your ability is probably of the counter type, and have carefully concocted a plan to kill you coldly and efficiently anyways. I will not attack you, have fun during the last hours of your life.">>289802884>"TSE YOU KNOW NEN? I DON'T CARE YOU CUNT YOU DIE NOW DIE DIE DIE"I'll be honest it's hilarious how smart he sounds one panel and how stupid he becomes just because Tse is involved.
>>289804430Imagine Balsamico waking up to the news Benjamin was poisoned, cursed, and tricked.
>>289804430They already did verify that only Camilla knew nen before boarding the ship. It's not crazy that Benjamin would assume that even if he knew Zetsu, Tserri would not have a hatsu, on top of his obvious hatred for his brother.
Post the colored version
>>289804430Yeah, it's like he had info on Camilla being a Nen user and a 24/7 camera on her, with playback.
Cammy is not dying
What’s with cammy posters?
So we're gonna see 2-3 chapters moving the plot then we just reset to when Tse gets shot because of his ability, right?
>>289804191No, that is not how martial law works normally. In Ukraine security forces don't just blast people in the face for refusing to get in the van, or even for playing Katyusha in public. What we see in HxH is exaggerated for dramatic effect
>>289804430Tserriednich having developed a nen ability that ridiculous in such a short amount of time is an extremely low probability. People complain that everyone in the arc is a genius that knows everything but turn around and mock them when they make reasonable mistakes.
>>289804604His ability was granted to him without him having to develop anything himself besides the basic nen principles. What doesn't work is that he can talk while in zetsu when his conscious should be watching the scene from outside. That seems impossible.
>>289804604It's basically unheard of, never mind that his Hatsu required Zetsu, that's borderline illogical. For some people this is really hard to grasp apparently.>>289804660What do you mean? His other self talked normally with Theta while he was using the ability.
>>289804553manipulated
>>289802884>Shut up and die, scumBased. This is foreshadowing how tserri will die.
>>289802595Anyone know what gun Benjamin is supposed to be carrying? The other two appear to have M16s without the carrying handles or maybe M4s with an M16's stock.
>>289804680>His other self talked normally with Theta while he was using the ability.Theta didn't hear him because she was seeing his real self in zetsu. Here we can clearly see that Benjamin heard him talking while he was in zetsu.
>>289802715It's interesting how she cares enough about Moswana to know her name.
>>289804740The way he reloaded after shooting the maids make it look like a shotgun
But what the FUCK do the coins do????
>>289804786you use to buy things
>>289804740It seems to be a custom semi-auto shotgun. I want one.
>>289804660Anon look at page 13. Its hard to understand but That is him talking for real. But then look at page 12. He already has the gun in his back pocket.Its confusing but this is Togashi's way of showing us how Tse's ability works. The true page order should be 14, 13, 12. Tse has already seen as far as page 18. He opens his eyes here to interact with someone. Then he closes his eyes again. Then we see him talking with his eyes closed. This is the real him speaking but he is seeing into the future . His ability hasn't started yet.
>>289804660>What doesn't work is that he can talk while in zetsu when his conscious should be watching the scene from outside.I'm confused. We know that illusion tserri can say and do different things than real Tserri. So whenever he's in zetsu and talking, that's the illusion speaking.
>>289802646WHAT THE FUCK!!?!? Granny Fukataki was supposed to be a Zeno-tier nen user! What happened??
>>289804855>So whenever he's in zetsu and talking,In zetsu with his eyes closed
>>289804786you fed them to the nen monster in exchange for a wish
TYSON WILL WIN!
>>289804748Right, so his "fake" self can also carry out the dialogue he would have said in the 10 seconds, he just didn't do so with Theta because he was concentrating.
Machi will kill Hisoka
Starting to think that 410 will still be the most advanced point in the timeline by the end of this batch
>>289804918Tyson will die, but someone important will read his gay little book.
>>289804918he will be burned along with his book
>>289804786Coins grant the owner nen aura in exchange for semi-coercitive manipulation. That's how Ben's guard owning a coin was made allowing Zhang Lei's escape without telling anyone.
>>289804918>tfw Tyson legitimately made some spiritual book on the level of The Bible and converts Ben before he kills her
What going on in cummy head
>>289805055>what a fool, has he not watched me for the last 2 weeks? Doesn't he know I don't poop?
>>289804855Yes, the reader was is also seeing the illusion of Tse getting shot by Benjamin meanwhile Tse is likely just lying down wherever the body fell and is faking it.Hence his orders to take his body and not let anyone see it. As they would notice he wasn't shot and isn't dead.
>>289804850Weird interpretation
>>289802595I've always been curious about how assault rifles and shotguns fair against nen users compared to handguns.Uvo could shrug off any bullet but he was a monster and not somebody typical enhancers should be compared to.
>>2898050555D master plan in development
erm, so what about tse/cammy's gsb?? did they just give up in the presence of STRONG BEN?
>>289804553we're the funniest, much like the future ruler of Kakin.
I know shit is finally happening on the boat but i really want to see what Ging is up to right now
>>289805163They're both using zetsu so their GSBs are gone.
>>2898051742 more weeks
>>289803974His spirit beast has a cock for a head. It's like poetry. It rhymes.
>>289802849I like how Ben is so assured in his victory he's still making little plans for the future. Or maybe it's just nature, you need that mentality of no failure to get to the level.
Cammy shits her pants next week
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>>289805258Franklin...
>>289805255Nope. Cammy doesn't poop. This chapter confirms the long speculated fan theory.
>>289805274neither does Beyond Neteronen masters no longer need to shit, all is disposed with aura
True Cammy fans theorized about her reduced metabolism 2 years ago.
>>289805274>turbostacy thot>has an army of turbo imp incels>nen abilities are based on suicide and anorexia
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>>289805323Why must you turn this thread into a palace of lies?
>>289805258>>289805272Franklin examines it as though evaluating an artifact worth billions of jenny."Presentation appears... acceptable."He rotates it."Bun integrity is holding together surprisingly well."Another pause."That's... encouraging."He takes an impossibly tiny bite for someone who weighs over 200 kilograms.Silence.Thirty full seconds.No expression changes."Immediately...""...I'm detecting mayonnaise."Another pause."Perhaps too much mayonnaise."He takes another bite."The patty possesses a noticeable chew."Long silence."One could argue...""...that it is meat."A distant explosion echoes somewhere outside.Several passengers scream.The ship shakes violently.Franklin does not react."Texture remains consistent."The camera zooms slightly."The lettuce provides a refreshing contrast..."He slowly removes a piece."...although there isn't very much of it."His phone vibrates.Machi: "Hisoka's alive."Franklin quietly places the phone face down."I'll deal with that later."He resumes eating.Another bite."The pickles."Silence."They're competent."The entire ship suddenly tilts.A Nen battle erupts somewhere overhead.The ceiling collapses behind him.He doesn't even blink."Overall...""The flavors are balanced."Pause."Nothing particularly memorable."Another pause."Which, admittedly...""...is sometimes exactly what you're looking for."He neatly folds the wrapper.Looks directly into the camera."On today's scale..."A dramatic pause lasting nearly fifteen seconds."I'm feeling..."Silence."...a solid..."More silence."...7.8 out of 10."He nods once."This has been Franklin Bordeau.""Thank you for watching."[Camera cuts.]Immediately afterward, Franklin casually stands up, fires both Nen-enhanced machine-gun hands through three walls, kills fourteen mafia members, sits back down, and quietly finishes the rest of his hamburger.
>>289802585Awesome Benjamin chapter but it's kinda obvious that he's being set up to fail BIGLY
>>289805307lol
>>289804918What is the most interesting outcome for Tyson? I think winning would be very funny but impossible. Instead, surviving through sheer luck till something fucks the ritual is possible.
>>289805364>Camilla tries to survive by sacrificing her own people to stave off the infection>Tserriednich isn't even dead and will be running around after Benji leaves>only princes that might die for real are being escorted into his roomI won't say he'll fail in a big way. But he's too confident that both his assassinatino attempts on primary targets will run off without hitch.
so what are the matchups for the rest of martial law? are ben's guards going to actually attempt to kill the fodder princes like luzurus and tyson, or just restrain them?
>>289803750Wouldn't Fuugetsu mention someone killing themselves in front of her?That's extremely traumatic.
>>289805307I can't believe this is canon
>>289802715Shit Benjamin got hit with the Sharingan, and he's already trying to kill all his brothers and sisters.
Binolt vs Gotoh who wins ?
>>289805431Gotoh but only because of his massive emitter advantage
does the debuff damage stack? does having the poison and the curse kill benny faster, or was cammy's big curse really just pointless because he was dying anyway?
>>289802646I refuse to believe she's dead desu, she had too much aura. Going to assume she has the prototype version of Cammy's ability and that another Untouchable can give their life to revive her, so one of the redundant soldiers will do it. Or Cammy's GSB reanimates her in a way I'd imagine Chiyamasi's ability does.
>>289805445It was pointless. Still, it's not like Moswana was the only curse user. There are 13 others. Camilla's curses are still a factor in the SW.
>>289804555Tserriednich doesn't actually erase or manipulate time like King Crimson.He just traps people in an illusion of the original future, while he's free to move around changing stuff.We might get a chapter from his POV but that's it.
>>289805431Gotoh easily, Binolt was only competent enough to trouble early GI Gon and Killua and Gotoh's ability has a massive advantage over him(a generic Enhancer with a blade)
>>289805431Are you fucking kidding?Gotoh would smoke Genthru.
>>289804430>knew Tse didn't have nen before embarking on the journeyThat small timeframe of a month isn't enough to make an ability worth a damn for a beginner.And zetsu doesn't give a clue about his current progress either, if it was Ren Ben would go "what?? That amount of aura in a single month? Shit, that's dangerous, gotta be careful" but as is he just sees a nen noob in zetsu and gambles on blasting straight away instead of being analysis paralyzed.The chances of a counter-hatsu, or a hatsu at all, are basically 0.Don't mistake our knowledge of Tse's talent as common knowledge. The guy is a once in a generation chad.
Benjamin? Physically stronger than Hisoka.
>>289805482And to think Gotoh is Bloster Jr., who is in turn Franklin Jr....
>>289805445Benjamin will die in 6 hours and benjifags will proceed to seethe at Camilla
>>289805442Gotoh is an enhancer
>>289805482Clownsisters...
>>289805494Hunter x Hunter is only intellectual if you are a nen theorist, plot theorist, or a scenario cruncher. People don't understand this because they don't read books.
im too tired to check, but does tser even know that nen can be used to block bullets? im pretty sure most of his entire training was with zetsu. is it possible he thinks he's actually going to be able to kill benjamin with that pistol?
>>289805496Dragon Ball exists in the HxH world so many an Emitter and occasional Enhancer are inspired to learn ki blasts
>>289805496Franklin is Bloster Jr.
>>289805508Well his massive range advantage then Thats neat tho, using enhancement fingers to replicate a machine gun
>>289805496It's amazing how one of, if not the most, dangerous people on the entire ship is "I shoot nen bullets out of my fingertips" man.Everyone we've seen so far jobs to him.>blasts right through bungee gum>smashes through Benjamin's Ren like butter>kills the entire room of Hei Li jobbers before they can even think to use any of their abilities>wipes out entire battalions of soldiers>blasts through walls, ceiling, and floors, nothing can stop him>shoots Cammy to death, then blows up her Hatsu tooNo wonder everyone wants to be an Emitter-chad
>>289805531If he were, he wouldn't bother to instruct Tsalkov with hiding his body.A 10s window of acting freely after he "got blasted" should be plenty to use your pistol to shoot 3 soldiers without that.Right now, Tse wants to practice more. He set himself that goal of going sub-1s and he's gonna keep at it until he does because that's his new toy/hyperobsession, everything else comes after unless it's immediately necessary.He'll go into hiding for now, that's it.
>>289803716It was never said his ability forces him to just stand there and do nothing. His fake can possibly do stuff. For example, if he's running down a hallway and closes his eyes and enters Zetsu, will his fake just stand there? It would probably keep running. Presumably, it's like King Crimson and the fake does what he would have done had he not used his ability, which is in line with how Lovely Ghost Writer treats future sight.
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>>289805381manipulating the mafia families into becoming her stooges.
>>289805541This is just at or below what Franklin could do with his fingers before you factor in that he obviously also has a laserbeam in his mouth. Bloster's saving grace is having naturally higher defenses(though he's aura dif'd by Franklin anyways) and the ability to propel himself.
>>289805548Seriously, emitting is the best category, its weird you don't see many people with defenses for heavy emitted abilities either. About the only person who could survive a Franklin encounter is Morel with his invincible smoke he makes somehow. I guess competent emitters are rare. Most just end up with shitter abilities like balloon guy or goreinu. Even aura beasts like razor the best he could do was exploding volleyball
>>289805548>blasts right through bungee gumYou mean the Bungee Gum that redirected Razor's ball?Literally nothing has been able to overpower Bungee Gum so far.
>>289805597Sure maybe a bungee gum wall would stop a few bullets but not thousands
>>289805548we can all agree that Franklin is going to open up his mouth and shoot a massive beam, right?
>>289805577Holy mother of headcanon.You invented that Franklin has a laserbeam in his mouth and you're actually using it as an argument. Incredible.>though he's aura dif'd by Franklin anywaysNothing suggests this. If anything it's the opposite. Chimera Ants, and especially Squadron Leaders, are shown to have huge aura pools.
>>289805597In general I agree, but maybe that anon meant blunt force would still hurt him. Hisoka isn't in the line of that ball and still breaks his fingers redirecting it and also hurt his hand when gumming up the surprise pass to him. Franklin's bullets aren't as powerful as Razor's spike but a bungee wall probably wouldn't be as effective as it was on Gotoh.
>>289802884it sure is lucky that he got shot with a gun here, it would have been over if he was infected with a slow acting disease that took more then 10 seconds to take effect
>>289805597Razor's ball is solid and meant to be hit back.Franklin's got ten fifty cal machineguns. He just starts shooting and never stops shooting, Hisoka has to use Ko/Ryu to block emitted attacks and he can't defend his entire body at once with enough aura. He even had to run away from Gotoh, who was using fucking quarters!
>>289805342I approve of this message. We should have an entire spin off around Nen user food reviews. There's enough material for it.
>>289805619He's also constantly wearing overalls/other sleeveless shirts and then a loose overcoat. I bet he can detach his hands and shoot megaman/samus style arm blasts.He can probably detach all his limbs until he's just a torso and then finally shoot a giant beam out of his mouth ala Zero Hand. For a real twist I'm betting on foot guns/rockets that let him move at superspeed(the other Emitterchad specialty)
>>289805625>Razor's ball is solid and meant to be hit backRazor literally says the ball behaves the exact same way as Nen ball.Emitted Nen is solid.>Franklin's got ten fifty cal machineguns>Gotoh, who was using fucking quartersYou know quarters are a huge caliber right?Gotoh's coins were strong enough to fall down trees. What's the gun equivalent to this?
>>289805621Holy headcanon indeed. Bloster brought down an elevator door and couldn't scratch the tank, where are you getting the massive aurapool from? It's the RG and Meruem who had an abundance, unless you think Ikalgo is some god tier Officer for gunning through Welfin. Zazan needed to use a desperate amp on herself to start outperforming a rusty Feitan and Franklin is a step above him in raw power.>laserbeamIt's the obvious answer to his unknown ace. Literally whatever it is, it's something that gives him just another advantage over Bloster by virtue of its existence. But when the Frankenstein guy who cut off his fingers to shoot bullets better also added stitches around his mouth that would make his mouth split open when unraveled, I think you'd be very bold to bet against the simplest option.
>>289805621Anyone who doesn't think Franklin had a laser in his mouth us straight retarded. Sorry anon you are retarded. You failed at the most basic level of visual storytelling even a 5 year old would understand.
>>289802646aaah cammy. not the beginning of a thought, up there.
>>289805648Razor can obviously only conjure one ball at a time, and he was just playing a game with Hisoka. It's obvious that his ability is normally to pass the ball around between his nen beasts to attack from odd angles. And that doesn't work when Hisoka can glue the ball down. But he can't do anything to a thousand bullets a second.
>>289802585crashing this shipwith no survivors
>>289805648>Emitted Nen is solid.Based understanding of emitted nen. Most people cannot accept this
>>289805614>>289805623>>289805625Hisoka clogs up Franklin’s finger holes with gum, causing his hands to explode when he fires. Franklin will lose his hands along with his ability and it’s game over. It’s that easy.
>>289802964>you didn't do your cleaning yourselveswho'se the sloppiest, i wonder.
>>289805705Delusional clown post
>>289805705This would legit work, thats why Franklin is in a large room with his back to the wall. So Hisoka can't gum him
>>289805697he'll stop it
>>289805585>Even aura beasts like razor the best he could do was exploding volleyballImagine being so based you waste your hatsu on being able to play volleyball whenever you want, and still end up being one of the strongest nen users.
>>289805705>Hisoka clogs up Franklin's fingerholes>he gets both his arms blown off ala the sound ninja in the chunin exams>starts shooting even bigger stronger bullets out of his arm stumps
>>289804993ohhh
>>289805730>implying he can't fire a nen shotgun blast out of his assholeWhy do you think he's eating so many hamburgers? He's charging up.
>>289805695CLOG. FINGER. HOLES.
>>289805780see >>289805754
>>289805381Tserriednich just happens to like some of the same music as Tyson, and so he accidentally triggers Tyson's GSB and gets brainwashed when he listens to some lyrics that """inspired""" the Book of Tython.
>>289805485Halkenburg. He witnesswd Halkenburg awakening and developing a complex hatsu in zero time, why wouldn't the same happen to Tserri? He already knew the Succession war is weird. He really went full retard just because it's the guy he hates the most.
>>289805754You mean dies of blood loss, right?
>>289805746I don't mean to talk shit about Razor. Exploding nen balls is an insane ability for as guy with as much aura as Razor. He is a top tier
>>289805621tbf aura amount for ants varies a lotfor how busted meleoron's ability is, he admitted that he's only as strong as a regular soldier
Why is that bitch named Tyson anyway? For the longest time i thought she was a dude because of it
>>289805805Bloster isn't even on the low end per say, but the combatant PT members are absolute beasts when it comes to aura. I think Bihorn is probably the SL who would most compare to them in terms of raw output, though he probably lacks much utility
Bloster fucks Reina every day btw
>>289805169cammy's getting her funny up not her money up, she's out of the race son
>>289805839Half of the NGL's population is already made up of their disgusting spawn.
>ctrl + F>rihan>zero resultsyou will apologize
>>289805823she's a transcutie obviously
>>289805862Damn I want Fugetsu to hold me like that
>>289805621Not to defend baseless headcanons but it was literally spelled out that all the spiders have techniques they keep secret.It's likely Franklin has some backup plan in case his hands are ever out of commission.
>>289802715>>289802734The brain uses up a lot of metabolic resources, but thanks to her vacuous stupidity, Cammy needs less food than the average person!
>>289805850She’s still alive, which means she’s not out of the game yet. She’ll survive the poison. Maybe her GSB will save her or someone like Cheadle will make a cure for TSK-17. Whatever the case, Camilla is still a player.
>>289805296being able to absorb all the energy and mass from the food so that you don't poop would be enhancement or manipulation?
>>289805805Meleoron was an explicit exception.How much aura do you think it was required for Leol to do what he did?Or for Zazan to transform and control an entire colony or subjects? Not to mention her transformed form tanking Feitan's Ko at base, and owning him with her emitted aura.>>289805834>the combatant PT members are absolute beasts when it comes to auraBy human standards.A Soldier Ant already has much higher base stats than a regular human.A Captain higher than a Soldier.And a Squadron Leader even higher than a Captain.
>>289805910probably both, but primarily manipulation would be my guess. if sending particular systems in your body into overdrive to do that is enough then enhancement can cover it, but if you're just rewiring the typical process then it'd be manipulation. transmuting might be another fun way to do it, if you created some new sort of digestive property within yourself
>>289805862>one of the few soldiers in the entire series who actually successfully did the thing he was tasked withI kneel
>>289805862>you will apologizefor what?
>>289805913*colony of subjectsIllumi had to invest a lot of aura for each of his needlemen.Zazan with her Queen Shot was doing something of much higher aura output, and she could do it for an entire colony.
>>289805882Her GSB will manipulate Tubeppa into developing a cure for her.
Reminder that Sale Sale remains the only prince victim of all the Benjamin's plans so far.
>>289805944GSB's can't target other Princes.We have to remind people of that every week.
what happens to the military after benjamin dies?
>>289805957No, they can't harm other princes. But using a non-damaging ability like manipulation should be fine.
>>289805930>I am forgotten
>>289805913>>the combatant PT members are absolute beasts when it comes to aura>By human standards.>A Soldier Ant already has much higher base stats than a regular human.>A Captain higher than a Soldier.>And a Squadron Leader even higher than a Captain.We already see the PT casually going through them, with Bono and Phinks also using methods that would've smashed Zazan. Feitan is remarked to be rusty several times, something obviously done to drag the fight out for the sake of intrigue. Ants are generally gifted with superior biology, but their aura isn't notable up to SL level and they're regularly outperformed by higher end nen users. If you look at most Ant feats it's their plating or traits like superspeed that give them the most notable edges.Not really sure what you're getting at with the Leol pic btw. In terms of raw output/water manipulation Grachan should be able to do the same or more. Keep in mind the rainy day restriction.
>>289805971nugui grows a hitler stache and takes over
>>289802646What size are Cammy's breasts?
>>289805982Unlike Rihan he got found out and killed for it
>>289805982It wasn't a task, he was a lone wolf.
>>289805877>we never got to see Kortopi's aceShit manga.
>>289805307cammyscholars i kneel
>>289806011C
>>289805913>Or for Zazan to transform and control an entire colony or subjects?Oh, also for this bit I don't think Zazan had to leave residual aura inside her victims. Her whole personality was malding about her mother and her power was reconfiguring bodies. All she'd have to do is make that loyalty an innate part of their biology, similar to the Chimera Ants only without the variance that came about due to the human influence. And like the Ants after the Queen dies, the victims wouldn't have to continue following orders or anything like that.
>>289805987>We already see the PT casually going through themNot that casually.Shizuku struggled against Pike, and admitted she would've lost if Pike was just a little smarter, and Shalnark had to use his ace and was fucked up after.Feitan was rusty, but Zazan had no trouble keeping up with him. His "speed" is through Kalluto's lenses.He only got a hit in because of that cheap umbrella shot, which only got a scratch in her.And this has nothing to do with her aura pool anyway. See >>289805941>Grachan should be able to do the same or moreYou mean the same Grachan who was very likely defeated and spared by Leol?
Franklin is the second strongest (and wisest) troupe member. If Chrollo died, he would become the head.
>>289805982>schizo chud kills a little girl just to vent his virgin frustration>gets what he fucking deserves from CHADnzoThis is a fully resolved plot thread
>>289806085Shalnark was the smartest, though he was weak.I bet the "kill Hisoka plan" was in large part his.
>>289805933b-bisky lolibaba.... TToTT
>Hi Camilla>Bye CamillaTalk about anti-climatic.
does nen class 2 starts next chapter guys
>>289806023>>289806089uh oh, looks like the swinko-swinko defence force is on their brigade.
>>289805982Anyone else notice that size different is comical? He's like 8 feet tall.
>>289806066>and admitted she would've lost if Pike was just a little smarteryou can't take anything she says as concrete evidence since she's clinically retarded.
>>289806115How strong is she?
>>289806066I specified combatants in my original post. I don't consider Shizuku or Shalnark among that category, though they're decent. Shalnark is kinda a tricky thing since he's struggling against a peon and gets injured pinning it, but he does has the signature manipulator auto-win method. He's clearly far worse than Zazan at baseline but we never get a great marker of how good Autopilot is since he just casually kills low end Ants with it.Shizuku, again, I don't think is comparable to the fighters, but she did pull off a win against arguable the best Officer we've seen. Which is another thing that plays into biological advantage, since Pike's best move is basically just his webbing - and the strongest SL couldn't break out of it either.Zazan isn't blitzed or anything but is still losing against a Feitan who never quite hit 100%, with all her factors considered. Once she uses a desperate version of her own ability she wins, but of course once Feitan uses a normal version of his own ability she's fried.>You mean the same Grachan who was very likely defeated and spared by Leol?We really can't say for certain how it all went down, Leol has a gigantic army with him and Pariston was purposely setting up mismatches after all. I just have no reason to believe Leol is using Inamura better than Grachan. Leol said he made some original moves, but in terms of manipulating water that's about what I'd expect from a surfer Hunter.
>>289806159mid PT
>>289806159ZAMN!
Chrollo needs 5 years of prep time to take on Zazan btw
How did Chrollo manage to mark the Judge with both Sun and Moon while Black Voice is active? Chapter 351Best I can come up with at the moment is:>controlled Judge (BV) charges at Hisoka>H. kicks J. whilst applying BG>Chrollo comes in, feints, and stomps Hisoka>Max speed contract, Chrollo dodges>J. recovers and charges, Chrollo shuffles behind J. quicklyI guess this last point is the moment. Maybe the sequence then goes:>Skill Hunter is open to Black Voice, Double Face not yet active>BV Antenna in Judge, Chrollo shuffles behindand then, very, very fast>close BV page, bookmark Sun and Moon, stash book in pocket>affix S&M seals and reopen SK to BV near instantly>S&M still bookmarked>Judge charges and explodes>Hisoka dodges, and while he does, Chrollo closes BV's page and gets right up behind J, removing the Antenna from the now standing corpse>Chrollo raises his hands to show off the book's absenceSound right?And what about the absent Antennae at the beginning of 353?
>>289806189>And what about the absent Antennae at the beginning of 353?You mean the antennas retrieved by a ""fishing line or something...""?
>>289806085Nobunaga has a higher Nen IQ
>>289806167mid to high*
>>289806066Why didn't Chrollo steal this guy's power to shoot webs out of his ass?
>>289806211sorry, I forgot that Hisoka wasn't part of the troupe anymore.
>>289806216>pulls down pants>turns his ass in your direction>"This... is the fearsome Spider I designed">BRAAAAAP
>>289806210>jobs to a guy who's known nen for like 2 weeks
>>289806216Machi can already shoot webs out of her ass.
>>289806231This arc feels like one big ripoff of JoJo, it's ridiculous.
>>289806216He would have but he died so the ability wouldn't show up in the book anyway
>cammy kills all TSK-17 and returns to life>benjamin is cured>nothing ever happens>next chapter in 3 years>nen class
>>289805910conjurationlike the disappearing kurapika chain
>>289806252Don't underestimate Pike's post-mortem nen, kid. His ass shots will remain forever.
>>289806189Inertia. The judge will keep moving for a couple of moments after Black Voice deactivation.
>>289806210>>289806231Nobunaga was legit very smart back in Yorkshin.But this arc Togashi is making him act like a trigger happy retard.
>>289806208That is what I mean. I don't for a second think that Machi was involved, I'd sooner guess Chrollo pinned the big civillian with BVA for just~ long enough to have him posture in front of Hisoka and then removed the Antenna. The big civillian showing, IIRC, aura for only a single panel might support this idea.
>>289806256>cammy kills all TSK-17
can we all agree that TSK-17 is emitted?
>>289806232Really committed to the spider bit like the zodiacs I guess. Bravo Machi.
>>289806256>Narrator: Benjamin didn't know, but one of the bacteria of the TSK-17 was actually a secret Nen master
>>289806272>I don't for a second think that Machi was involvedShe had no other excuse to being there, as far as the other Spiders were concerned.They knew she hadn't accepted Hisoka's money to patch him up, and Kortopi was even surprised she wasn't coming with them.So officially she was there for something else. What was it?
Machi hugs
>>289806270No? Nobunaga is acting just as smart and has been tardwrangling Phinks and Feitan the whole time. He has impulsive moments, which goes for both arcs, and he's generally at his worst when it comes to split-second decision making. Morena has a multi-layered conditional setup and barring whatever his ace does(which is probably more swordplay) Nobunaga had no answer to it and would be escorted off the premises by security regardless. And despite that he gave Hinrigh the means to track the hideout via a deceptive hint.
>>289803145Holy shit
>>289802787What's he need the gun for? He isn't stupid enough to believe he can drop Benjamin with a tiny low caliber handgun.
>>289806302giwtwm
>>289806270>trigger happyI'd call it experience + confidence + not afraid to experiment.When Nobunaga first sees Terebellum's Sweet Home his thoughts are "annoying matchup + too many possibilities to narrow down conditions and activation". So he asks Hinrigh to keep throwing after which he immediately clocks how Sweet Home works.It's not unga bunga brute force brain that urges Nobu to strike the LSDF Guards, it's sheer confidence + "let's see how this ability reacts"
>>289806270Well, to be fair, this ability is OP in optimal conditions and he got it for free.
>>289806356yeah that's how my goat Daigo Umehara used to play street fighter, he knows what he's doing
>>289806356For the most part yes. Nobunaga also almost took advantage of Yokotani carelessly getting close before Terebellum protected him, which would've nullified LSDF as a threat. Granted in a weird way this does hint at Nobu himself being reckless at times, with the obvious Uvo-proxy defending the obvious Nobu-proxy
>>289806302i wish machi would choke me to death
>>289806231I predict Botobai will be the one to fodderize Japanese Saul Goodman
Cammy emits shit all over the inside of her pants next week
>>289806031Kortopi copies functioning as En is arguably enough of a twist on the ability to qualify.
>>289802849I'm a bit out of the loop right now, but is Benjamin still trying to kill Woble?
>>289806385Hisoka...
>>289805801Halkenburg was NOTICABLE.Big ass fucking nen from his nen beast.The Halkenburgs ability itself is shit tier unless backed up by STRONG NEN. Switch consciousness with a nen arrow isn't that great when it's blockable, evadable and makes you vulnerable unless in a 1v1 scenario.You can FEEL STRONG NEN.Benjamin not once felt STRONG NEN from Tse, because Tse didn't do ren training, he did zetsu training and flew under the radar.
>>289806415He'll have the soldiers look for the real one in the other tiers of the ship
>>289806031Kortopi's ace is that he's still alive; Hisoka killed a body double
>>289805877Also you can't call it baseless when it's one of the most basic logical deductions tied to information from the series you yourself know about
>>289802849>there's not enough textbox in this chapter we need to recruit Kurapika and have him hold nen classes together with Rihan!!BEN NO
I emit my cummy inside of Cammy's womb
Benjamin will recruit (forcibly enslave) Kurapika as an instructor (free use onahole) for his army
>>289802849Kurapika actually being seen as a nen teacher makes me want to blow my fucking brains out.
Does Togashi know how guns work? The two maids should have been gore splatter on the floor. What is this fus ro dah bullshit?
Transmuter shaping his aura into a multitude of arms allowing him to defend, grapple, and strike at any angle
>>289805531>>289806330To resist bullets, the "Ken" has to be willingly activated. Nen users use the "Ten" constantly but "Ken", "Zetsu", or "En" are used for specific situations. Imo here Benjamin doesn't ecpect getting shot from nowhere.
>>289806465STRONG NEN guns so it's like they've been hit by a fucking bazooka
>>289806465Look at Ben's gun, it's some M.I.B advanced tech looking mf
>>289802585to>>289802884Reminder that those scans in this thread are still AI upscaled scans. They are over-whitened and the shadows are faded. The brownish early leaks scans looked better.
>>289806465thats how guns work irl
>>289806449You mean conjure, right?Can't fertilize real eggs with fake sperm after all.
>>289806489>>289806495>>289806545Not a single drop of blood on Camilla, even tho they were right next to her. This is important because we know Tserri wants to fake his death. But hiding his body is meaningless if all the blood and flesh on the floor disappears with his ability.
>>289805976>Camilla’s Nen beast manipulates Tubeppa into making an antidoteThat’s a no-no>Camilla’s Nen beast manipulates Kurapika into working with Tubeppa to make an antidoteThat’s OK!
>>289802849>>289802884MY BENJAMIN STOCKS ARE MOONING
>>289806425We don’t know if Benjamin knows about the baby swap yet. My personal theory is that Babimyna never told him because he clearly has his own agenda separate from Ben. I think Ben would be a lot more panicked if he knew about the baby swap.
>>289802834If the tattoo artist is on the ship, then what about Mark Myman?
I'm confused, what happens if Halkenburg swaps in to Benjamin's body and then he immediately dies from the virus/nen curse?
Cutechi
>>289804753ok Cammy
>>289805119I suppose even if you can manage to stop them with ken and ryu it's gonna hurt, deplete aura and more importantly need your full attention. It could be equivalent to adding mid level emitter abilities to your arsenal and in a group battle that can be quite useful.
I'm a genius who understand how story are written, here my prediction (80% chance of being true)Only Benjamin will die during martial law in the prince Camilla will be the major antagonist during the second part of the arc ,Tserri will be the major antagonist during the last part and final bossThere will be no new king,the ceremony will be a failure because at least 2 prince (Wobble and Fuggetsu) will survive until the end and Kakin will become a republic
>>289802787Tserri killing Salkov later because no one must know his stand ability
>>289806671Assuming swapping with another prince is possible, Halk's soul would either go back to its current host body or be gone for good if it always tries to return to his original body
How constipated is Cammy?
>>289806785Camilla is too stupid to be a main antagonist
>>289802646Anyone thinking Cammy expected to kill Benjamin with a handgun is foolish. She shot him to bait him to shoot back and kill her thus activating her ability.
>>289806785nice, where is the 80% part?
Do we know what happens if the Succession War is a failure? (if more than 1 Prince is alive by the end of it, whenever that's decided)
>>289806122Momoze is a little girlIn her first appearance she's shorter than Tyson
>>289806853It must be herTserri need to finish his training 3rd prince is way too passive and is allied to Kurapika The only elder prince left is Camilla with her curses,unknow nen beast and super op cat + being a crazy evil vilain unlike the boring 3rd prince
>>289806885Kurapika theorized that the Hui Guo Rou family will fall from power
>>289806885End of the monarchyBeginning of the new republic That's what will happen
>>289806885From what has been inferred from dialogue and Kurapika's yapping, if the SW fails, the Kakin Empire implodes on itself.
>>289806909>Terror sandwich needs to finish his trainingNo he doesn't. He's already got an actually OP ability in the form of improved king crimson + epitath.>3rd princeliterally a nigger, fodder.>super op catliterally a dogshit ability. Just infect her with a pathogen like Ben or use a fucking curse baby like Beyond has already planned to so she has no live target to suck off and reanimate her.
>>289805675Can Franklin scratch a tank? We don't know. A .50 cal bullet sure can't. But the elevator doubled as a reinforced shelter and prison as well. The doors were thick and bullet proof, as we see. As far as feats go, Bloster has more than Franklin
>>289806938So? His ability becomes 100x more OP every 0.1 he saves.
Halkenberg will win the succession contest in the black persons body and spare the pussy princes as well as Wobble.
>>289802715What if Cammy's hibernation is some form of zetsu and she unlocks special powers like Tserri?
Ben will job to Beyond's curse
>>289806785>I'm a genius who understand how story are written, here my prediction (80% chance of being true)4chan has become a roleplaying site
>>289806990You are not supposed to have powers when you are in Zetsu, that's the point of it, you block your own aura completely. Tserri is the only known exception. Shoving a second one in the same arc would be lame af.
>>289803954
>>289806938>No he doesn't. He's already got an actually OP ability in the form of improved king crimson + epitath.Have you read the backstory of Tserri?When he find something he's interested in ,he became completely obsesed with it and forgot everything else,he will not take active part in the war until he finish his training Until then the most viable option to wreak havoc is Camilla
>>289806877>Cammy did try a bait that didn't work before and expected it to work, developing no other tactics against someone who won't just take the bait, Cammy is so smart.
>>289807054This time the parameters have changed, Ben is not in his room, is standing and he is armed. It was a good choice to try again, no harm in doing do.
>>289802849>>289803541Even now, Benjamin's thoughts are only on the betterment of Kakin
You could break Camilla's ability by injecting her with nenA guy like Bill would be able to do it
>>289806943That's why I brought up Franklin's arm wrestling exceeding Feitan who is himself high up there among a group of freak outliers. But Franklin's bullets also seem to be beyond Bloster, who can't do anything to the properly reinforced areas. You can also compare the total crowd carnage to how limited Bloster's impact was on a group of police officers. You could shrug some of that off as Bloster's apathy, but I do think Franklin would be breaking the stuff Bloster wasn't, yes.
>>289807100Which stuff? Based on "hardness", the hardest thing Franklin has destroyed is a car. It looked fairly intact.Bloster demolished a truck in a single short burst.
>>289805982>>289802646cutefeet
>>289807042I completely agree with you about Tse but what I meant is he's already strong enough to put up an insane fight if he's forced to.Camilla is genuinely a retard and Ben's probably already killed her. I will continue to bet that Benjamin is the most viable option for over-arching antagonist (until Tse) even if he doesn't tank the curses.In reality Togashi will probably subvert all our expectations
hxh threads are the best
/ourguy/
>>289806841Not at all in a couple of hours
>>289807116The tank, wall, and gates. Bloster just shot through the side of the truck so that wasn't a great feat, I think even the elevator is better. I think blasting through the aura glomps and delivering massive damage, like Shachmono says, is a greater showing of force. Not to mention Franklin just does it at once to a whole crowd and the stray bullets still do that much regardless.
>>289807183>The tank, wall, and gateswhat tank wall and gates?
>>289807198Where Ikalgo and Bloster fight?
>>289807231ok but when has Franklin damaged something as tough?
>>289802749He's noble to not even inflict any pain on Camila like even a non-fatal wound to her feet or limbs>>289802787Kurapika's seen through this bullshit before with the PT body fakes, this will play into his eventual encounter with Tse (but will first seek Beyond). Maybe this is also what Chrollo will understand once he goes upstairs causing the temp alliance between them (>tfw Chrollo's phone is directing him to either Tse/Kurapika).
>>289807249Like I've said earlier, Franklin's stray bullets in a spread still break Schachmono's nen globs and bypass his shroud too. I think it's reasonable to put that above anything Bloster has hit. It's high end Emission from a PT combatant that goes beyond what SL's generally display. And with all this again neglecting that there's Franklin's ace, which would only widen the gap that much further.Bloster might have an amp now that he has more of a personal drive, but he also has no reason to fight anymore, so eh.
>>289807266>He's noble to not even inflict any pain on Camila like even a non-fatal wound to her feet or limbsben is weirdly civil, it's such a departure from how he was initially portrayed. After all the headache cammy's put him through, you'd think he'd backhand her at least but no. Furykov broke her arm and essentially proved that you can injure her and it's fine, you have to kill her to trigger the cat- but Ben never beats the shit out of her.
>>289807293so your headcanon.gotcha.
>>289807183Franklin has never shown the force to punch through those areas either. Very few characters, if any, have that strength.We are talking about an underground bomb shelter, designed to withstand direct explosions from missiles, detonations etc. are you saying Franklin would be able to penetrate these bomb-proof bulkheads? Based on what? Him being able to emit a less dense, smaller sized nen blast than Bloster (granted he shoots more bullets, but they're still smaller)? Franklin's power is designed to chew through people. He's good at that. Bloster does the same except he's got a different baseline (his peers are tougher than Franklin's peers). Hence his bullets are stronger, hit harder and have more penetration. Makes sense to me.
why is togashi ripping off yyh and level e?
>>289807391Why fix what ain't broken?
>>289802629>>289802646why does cammy have tied hair in panel, and untied in the other?
>>289807408Her hair ties fell off when she sprung into action.
>>289807408Her gun was hidden in her hair so she had to untie it to pull it out, read the panel flow man
>>289807321Like you claiming Bloster has any conceivable advantage when he's a part of a weaker group and has worse feats. And yes, the infamous headcanon that a Spider has an ace, as was stated by narration. Bloster has his plating and he can propel himself, those are the only advantages he'd have over a guy who could stand there and mow down mafia guys with guns anyways.>But what if the guy who made himself a living weapon as part of a goal to become an enforce for the Troupe has an ace that doesn't contribute to his offensive abilities in any capacity?Truly fruitful discussion. Not to mention that even then it would be utility that furthers his gap as a nen user regardless.>>289807323SLs are below combatant PT members. Why is the page that was spammed to prove how Hisoka is beyond everybody now totally meaningless after it's revealed to be Bonolenov? Bloster has no meaningful showing beyond the bulletproof elevator while Franklin goes through a nen wall then a nen user with stray bullets in a larger spread. Bloster's blasts not having that option just make the whole thing seem less impressive given that there's zero impact on the reinforced materials. Are we going to assume someone like Uvo would be helpless there? Because Franklin isn't far off from Uvo, unlike Bloster.
>>289807293>schachmono + nen puppets are stronger, more durable than this multiple-inch thick bulletproof door
>>289807436>and has worse featsthis is literally yur headcanon. No feat of Franklin is better than bolster. They both cut easily through people. Franklin damaged a car, that can be damaged by normal bullets too, and Bolster an armoured elevator.Then you're completely inventing how strong the men globs are.>franklin's ace.And how does this ace co pare to blisters? Can you show me the page?Oh no wait you can't so all in all it's just your headcanon
>>289807519Yes, they are.
Pariston is a specialist
>>289807534This guy could solo Benjamin btw
Remember Roy?
>>289807534Nope. A nen user like SW Kurapika is slightly resistant to 9mm bullets The mafia nen users at the auction are at most slightly resistant to similar small arms gunfire. Otherwise Uvogin wouldn't be impressive or special. What's the claim? This multiple-inch thick reinforced steel door, is most likely strong enough to repel all gunfire up to and including .50 cals. Therefore, it's tougher than the nen users at the auction.
Hey, why is he kinda...?
>>289802715Is no one gonna talk about how Big Ben tanked the curse like it was nothing? What exactly happened here? Is this curse a delayed death and Cammy expects him to drop within a few minutes from now, did he simply null it, or is it going to take long enough to kill him that the TSK-17 is going to kill him first anyway?>>289804430Yeah totally reasonable to expect that his brother who's a complete novice to Nen would turn into Diavolo with King Crimson Requiem within 2 weeks of training. He doesn't even have the time to learn what Tse's ability is anymore
>>289807519Concentrated aura is a powerful thing to get through and it's done incidentally. I genuinely don't remember the car destruction in the manga, going through Schachmono like that is more impressive so I don't factor it into anything. Basho delivers a strong punch(without aura, but we've seen how much damage that can do) and the puppet just flies in the air, while the bullets instantly pop them then fly through Shachmono with zero resistance.>And how does this ace co pare to blisters? Can you show me the page?So you are unironically making the argument that the ace a non-factor. What's the point? He's already better than him, it's just something that deepens the divide. Phinks would have to exert himself to kill the durable Officer, meanwhile Ripper Cyclotrone would one-shot a transformed Zazan. The ace will have high payoff and it'd be worth keeping a secret, so we can make obvious conclusions about a simplistic brute Emitter. Sadly because of the pacing obvious things in HxH take decades to be revealed, but yes, I expect Franklin to use a higher version of pure Emission via a different part of his body - ie the mouth he modified to open up if the stitches are removed similarly to his detachable fingers.>>289807587You're the one more likely to rate random Chimera Ants over princes.
>>289807659monke
>>289807675He's meant to look like Lupin, who's meant to look like a monkey, so he's a monkey by transitive property
so i've just read volume 34 is there a reason why /a/ is thinking danchou cheated? seemed like a fair fight other than Hisoka underestimated him and let him prepare for this fight
>>289807693
>>289807693Chrollo didn't cheat, he was logical and made the best use of what Hisoka provided him. The discussion comes from how things would've turned out if Hisoka fought Chrollo without giving him the ideal conditions to set-up abilities (which he did for like a whole year) + location of his choosing.
>>289807666A nen user is not necessarily harder than punching through steel. Gon punching through a wall is impressive enough to tsezuguerra, and punching through solid steel is much, much harder than that. Where did you get the impression that regular low-mid tier nen user's bodies are stronger than steel? There's no such evidence anywhere in the manga?
>>289807756>>289807693Chrollo cheated and that's okay (he never took the duel seriously and wasn't obliged to). Problem is mostly that Hisoka survived and got miffed about it. "Hisoka is stronger than Chrollo in the direct, physical confrontation but Chrollo has domination in strategy, tactics and mind games" is not a strange or unreasonable analysis of the fight but it drives both sides of the argument absolutely furious for some reason
>>289807542I have unrealistically high expectations for Pariston, I think he'll be my all time favourite character in HxH in the future. He's the guy who's doing it for the lulz, a natural born troll.
>>289807693If nothing gets mentioned by the end of the arc then I'll consider it coincidence, but tl;dr on some of the major ones:Chrollo's odd movements to disorient Hisoka might be helped by Machi. This is the least likely but it's worth noting since Hisoka remarks that a fishing line might've retrieved Shal's antenna at one point.The amount of copies Hisoka expected from Chrollo using the longer method to create multiple puppets is exceeded by several times.Machi later says something similar to a line Chrollo says at the beginning of the fight, only she omits the "fight as a team" bit. Hisoka looks like he has a realization at this point.
>>289807756Wrong. Chrollo cheated. Several troupe members were secretly in the crowd helping Chrollo.
>>289807790>>289807797this
>>289807661>s this curse a delayed death and Cammy expects him to drop within a few minutes from nowNigger read.
>>289807790Post the page with Chrollo's strange aerial movements, suggesting machi helped him out
>>289807797That's not cheating. Hisoka allowed it to happen, I find it reasonable that he expected it and had no problem with it through sheer overconfidence.
Benjamin will probably ascend because it'd make the SW more interesting
>>289807835Yes, he'll ascend like Icarus. But then Beyond's curse will send him crashing into the ground.
>>289807760IDK how seriously we're meant to take Gon's hit on the wall in terms of the crater, especially when you can sense the raw aura beforehand, but it's a cap on Bloster that Franklin simply hasn't had demonstrated. Everything he's hit has been nothing in comparison to it, and I stress each time that it's part of a spray that ends up going through layers of aura. Eleven Children are going to be better than something like a generic Gyo defense because it's his ability drawing upon his reserves to create this, like Morel fueling Deep Purple via his reserves while also having access to his standard aura uses. Dal was a bullet-blocker and he's casually dwarfed by the Troupe, these people are meant to hit several tiers above that.
>>289807848Ascension implies going above the material matters of curses, poison etc Maybe becoming transcendent is the better word. Point is he'll become a relic like the other seed urn stuff
>>289807811Like I said, one of the less convincing bits, but I've seen someone try to make the physics line up with a tugged thread.
>>289807861Beyond's a nen god. His curse will annihilate Benjamin on a physical, mental, psychological, material, spiritual, metahphysical, cosmological, temporal, spatial, and philosophical level.
>>289807856>mindless cope to build up the troupe no matter what tiresome dishonesty. You're basically running a script at this point.The combined aura of schachmono is not stronger than a reinforced steel door. Nen users do not achieve this status lightly. Uvogin is essentially a very, very thick steel door in resistance. Schachmono + puppets does not even come close to that. You're essentially saying there's no limit to what Franklin can hit and penetrate, because we haven't seen it. Its nonsense
>>289807897This is more of an iffy translation issue
>>289807905You're being retardedBeyond is just an evil, ruthless guy with a total lack of scruples. His nen reflects that The Seed Urn ceremony is stronger than any one nen user, by design. Even if they're beyond tier >>289807897I could well be biased but that sequence does imply trickery
>>289807934Wrong, kid. You know nothing of the infinite malice in Beyond's heart. Infinite malice >>> an ugly old pot
>>289807790There's also the start of this arc where Chrollo thinks about how he isn't strong enough to take Hisoka on 1v1. Which is odd
>>289807934>he doesn't know
>>289807961isn't it infinite potential for human evolution?
>>289807934Beyond could literally kill every single prince, guard, and GSB in the Succession War in 5 minutes.
>>289807961>maliceBeyond is... kind! He is reforming an evil monarchy into a constitutinal democracy! Trust the plan!
>>289805982Epstein's room ahh panel
>>289807993How new are you?
>>289807961In that moment, his nen became... ON!!!
>>289807907>You're essentially saying there's no limit to what Franklin can hit and penetrate, because we haven't seen it. Its nonsenseNot at all. I'm saying Franklin has higher credentials and that incidentally going through an aura wall and a nen user with zero resistance is more impressive than what Bloster did.>>mindless cope to build up the troupe no matter whatYou are the one who somehow doesn't comprehend aces or the demonstrated powergap between the Troupe when they were directly compared to the Ants.>Uvogin is essentially a very, very thick steel door in resistance.Bloster has a worse record than the bazooka that Uvo tanks. Bloster would do nothing to Uvo. If you assume that'd be the same case for Franklin unloading on Uvo then that's your godgiven right, it just seems extremely silly. And I don't think you thought of that prior to reflexively assuming a middling SL was above Franklin.
>>289802834TEXT X TEXTYAP X YAPDIALOGUE X DIALOGUEMANGA IS A VISUAL MEDIUMMMM!!!!
>>289807977I mean, even if Chrollo didn't cheat he had all the time to prep and set up the fight with Hisoka on his own terms. This rematch will be random, and now he's lost access to Shalnark and Kortopi's abilities. He also likely isn't going to borrow anymore PT abilities for obvious reasons.
>>289803145>160% Nen
>>289808081Franklin doesn't have "higher credentials" because he hasn't done much of anything except kill one (1) nen shitter as well as nen-less goobers. Right now he's afraid of walls and doors and anything not football field sized so he likely never will be able to show his worth before dying
>>289807934>The Seed Urn ceremony is stronger than any on-
>>289808147Yeah. It is. You've been posting stupid shit. Gon's power is very banal, pedestrian and small compared to the seed urn ritual
holy shit something actually happened
>>289808175Adult Gon is a million times stronger than your lame seed urn shit, moron.
>>289808176>holy shit something actually happenedeuugh, take me back to 1000 word pages and hinrigh
>>289808175Don, Meruem, Adult Gon, Netero, Beyond Netero, Ging >>>>>>>>>>> Seed Urn
>>289808139Outmuscling people and being a part of the combatants that outmuscle Ants while having his own ace on top of everything is fine enough by me. If he was ever met by resistance at some point that would factor into things, but he's just been above everything he encountered. I don't consider him equal to the likes of Uvo, Nobu, Phinks, and Feitan by default, but even being a step below them is better than essentially all SL's. >he likely never will be able to show his worth before dyingMight be the case. I think Hisoka gumming up his hands, Franklin resorting to his ace(which could be a good destructive showing at least), and then Hisoka killing him regardless is the most expected outcome. But Togashi tends to take interesting routes with things, so who knows.
nothing ever happens
>>289808193Idiot >>289808211No spider has ever outmuscled a chimera ant. They used nen abilities to achieve their goals. Franklin has a straight forward emitter ability which means that by baseline he cannot stand and bang with Bloster. Bloster's bullets are bigger and stronger (already well established by the prior discussion), Bloster is baseline tough enough to resistant rifle fire (even without nen!) and will be able to tank Franklin's fire enough to fire back and kill Franklin. Franklin is outclassed by Bloster, and his fantasy "ace in the hole" is irrelevant for the discussion. Franklin is good but he's stumped here.
>>289805878>The brain uses up a lot of metabolic resourcesNen is life energy all its users are physiologically super human.
>>289808175Post-Mortem Hisoka is stronger than the seed urn ceremony.
>>289808235>Sakurazaka46TOGAAASHIIIIIII!!!!!!
>>289808242Retard
>>289802734>>289802749Is it just me or do Cammy's eyes have kind of soft, sad quality rather than shocked or defeated?
>"multi generational post mortem nen ritual utilizing multiple child sacrifice + extremely powerful relics and extremely ruthless and strict conditions with endless fail safes, death curses, possession of ancestral spirits and developing spirit beasts is weaker than [my favorite character, a martial artist]"
>>289808301She's a little bit shook when Benjamin puts on his ruthless, faceless killer style
>>289808310Yes. The seed urn jobs to Don, Post-Rose Meruem, Pre-Rose Meruem, Adult Gon, Netero, Beyond Netero, Pouf, Youpi, Pitou, Ging, Pariston, and Botobai.
gotoh could solo the urn
>>289808332The seed urn ceremony is not a character you can fight. If it was, it would be stronger than post-rose Meruem.
>>289808310What a childish way of thinking. You've mistaken complexity for power.
>>289808347What do you think power is?
>>289808343>stronger than post-rose Meruem
>>289808242There's nothing convincing at all to me regarding Bloster somehow having stronger bullets. We only know a cap for Bloster, which is lower than Uvo's own defenses(which is what I obviously mean by outmuscling as their biology is largely what carries Chimera Ants below RG tier), and people are downplaying Franklin's showings that have had no known resistance up to this point. I think most everyone would have, in an unprompted conversation, found it ridiculous to imagine Franklin unloading on Uvo and doing NOTHING to him. Disregard the inevitable higher firepower from his ace since Uvo gets his own amp in the form of BBI that doesn't factor into his Ren defenses. People are only going to largely disagree with Franklin being able to do more to Uvo with his bullets than a bazooka when he's being compared to Bloster's hard cap.Uvo's defenses would probably be slightly lower against the SB, but they can still bypass his guards and this was commented on as a feat. Are we going to assume Porcupine's hair and Rabid Dog's teeth are wildly above Franklin too when the PT can casually handle their group? No, it's just Bloster(and SL's) not being all that impressive compared to how a lot of people rate them. Franklin's bullets might not be his best attack, but they are still a nen ability(which is largely how the PT stomp Ants, yes) amped by his wild conviction. It's not equivalent to something like the stray emitted nen Zazan throws at Feitan.
Please tell me we will see Hisoka in this batch. I waited years for this
>>289808366>Bloster's output is lower than Uvo's own defenses You base this on what?
>>289808353Power isn't just conditions, conditions, conditions. Otherwise someone like Zushi can become stronger than god if he just adds a million conditions to his nen ability.
>>289802585god i love hxh so damn much1. ben recruits kurapika2. ben dies but son carries the victory3. ben’s child and kurapika live happily ever after ruling kakin
>>289808378he will be soon, inshallah
>>289808378Hisoka will appear in the worst moment possible for ChrolloUntil we see Chrollo put in a dangerous situation he won't show up.
>>289807266>>289807310If he had the time he would, he originally said he wanted to kill Tse by first breaking every bone in his body. Also killing someone by infecting them with a incurable terminal illness is pretty far from civil.
>>289808235Is Togashi blackmailing the jump execs to get all these Sakurazaka46 collab MVs?
>>289808343You’re dumb. Like really fucking dumb
>>289808366A real life mantis shrimp can punch as strong as a bullet.
>>289805548I think it is in line with his anti-powercreep philosophy.
>>289808391The bazooka Uvo 'tanks' is a tank-shredder. Bloster can only damage a tank's treads.
>>289808392Conditions multiply extant force. The baseline nen for the seed urn ritual is ridiculously powerful, able to instantly kill any defectors, granting magical constructs to every participant, binding an entire bloodline to the ritual, keeping track of lost souls, granting fortune to an entire country in a very broad and mystical sense. It is a nen application unlike anything we've ever seen, all powered by human sacrifice, post mortem nen, the living will of generations and generations of striving monarchs that all pour their nen into the ritual. If all that effort was channeled into a single entity, that entity would have more nen than Post Rose Meruem, and would likely have reality bending powers to boot. I said what I said.
>>289805823tithe-onshe collects a tithe on nen
>>289808439And Bloster is evidently neither a mantis shrimp nor a pistol shrimp. I think the ability harkens to his NGL past(basically all the NGL Ants use firearms/ranged weaponry) but as he doesn't have his memories he can pass it off as a product of his biology despite being what looks to be a generic lobster.
>>289808445Seed urn jobs to Binolt
>>289808442Anti tank munitions are not built equal. And neither is tank armor. There's no evidence that RPG would be able to hurt the tank, since it appears to be a HE charge and not a shaped-charge explosion. Two entirely different concepts of weapon. A HE attack would do nothing against the tank Bloster fought. And there's not much logic to Mafia goons carrying real shaped-charge explosives on them, when every target a mafia man would like to hit with a bazooka would fall to a high-explosive shell.
>>289808445Beyond’s curse is stronger.
>>289802787>>289802799>>289802884Honestly Salkov was a retard here for not instantly shooting him after Benjamin did but it tracks with his character.
>>289808487No evidence of that. His curse can be exorcised.
Sacred Treasure - Sword of Good OmensNational Prosperity? Power boost to the King? Guardian Spirit Beast upgrade?
>>289808478I sent the pic because we can dance around all the context putting Bloster under Uvo's defenses, but that blast itself would pretty clearly do much more to the tank(ie destroy it) than what Bloster does to everything that isn't the elevator or truck doors >>289807231
Is the bejnamin disease transmissible? Can you get infected from being near an infected person?
>>289808508A HE shell like that wouldn't knock out a tank from the front.
>>289806415>>289806425Room 1014 are exempt since literally 1 chapter ago speedreaders.
Silent Majority is Wobble from the future btw
>>289808478>There's no evidence that RPG would be able to hurt the tank, since it appears to be a HE charge and not a shaped-charge explosion.C'mon man...
>>289808525Non-contagious I'm pretty sure. Initially airborne but denatures very quickly, only surviving in a body.
>>289808542Okay, let's just assume that that's true despite there being no real need to question its effectiveness in the context of the story. Do you think this explosion(note the man) is doing more or less than Bloster's attack? This feels like another case where something is only stated because the logical conclusion isn't what people would prefer to be the case for whatever reason. Dismissing the ace known to exist by narration was a bad sign of things to come, but the visual side-by-side has to at least make people that haven't given the topic much thought reconsider some things.
What's stronger, magic spell A or magic spell B?
>>289808625how obnoxious and convoluted are their conditions?
>>289808572Why do you beg? The explosion clearly depicts a high-explosive shell, and not a shaped charge. Force is not concentrated but rather spreads out in every direction. >>289808602Bloster's shots are like cannon fire. When faced with a tough glacis, they bounce off, like a cannon round. Makes sense to me. They are two very different attacks.
>>289808663Bloster has a 20mm cannon (2 of them), btw. While Franklin is a .50 cal machine gun (10x)
>>289808359Meruem is just supposed to be the pinnacle of individual strength.Group nen, and rituals that encompass entire nations across generations are supposed to be on an entirely different level, just like the stuff that is found in the DC that are said to be way more dangerous than the ants.There's a reason why the story had both Netero and Hisoka, who are the biggest fightfag characters, talk about that.Also we saw with Alluka that there are forces in action in HxH's world that are way beyond what Meruem could even dream of doing, which helps to get the message across.
>>289808677Well Franklin should cause some degree of harm to Uvo while Bloster's attacks can't dent a super-bazooka victim manufactured in North Korea, so I don't know how accurate that comparison is. Seems like Franklin sprays more bullets with more force.
>>289807897Chrollo's left arm or generally just the left side of his body gets tugged by a wire, you can see the SFX of it.
>>289808663You really think Togashi put that much thought into that rocket launcher? Sure dude, you do you kek
>>289806423Wait, are you trying to tell me that Benjamin will lose because he believed in STRONG NEN? Could the absolute principle of STRONG NEN not be enough to succeed?!
>>289808719>more headcanon
Will we learn the origin of Dust in the Wind: Hell Fruit?Did an ancient Kakin mage curse an entire caste?Did members of the caste create this heritage ability through a ritual?Is The Collective Unconscious a thing in HxH? Does it interact with Nen?
>>289808750The headcanon that the massive tank-shredder can shred tanks and that Franklin is not hilariously below PT combatants like a certain lobster would be. That might besmirch the mighty name of the Squadron Leaders after all.
were there any references to sakurazaka46 in this batch? or did togashi stop idolshit faggotry?
>>289808730Its not anti-tank munitions is the main thing. Those things are very, very different from what was depicted. Mainly the size of the explosion and what it actually does to a target. Was Uvogin attacked with a liquified copper cone in a small, concentrated radius?
>>289807897>>289808720I remember having this discussion like 5 years ago and yeah the SFX of it is also the same used for Machi's strings
>>289808793the new mv is a song by them
>>289802715>>289802734I’m glad this is being brought up. I’ve been thinking that’s how you kill her.
>>289808751All you'd need to do is teach a technique as a custom. There's probably no need to do extra steps or anything. A single Untouchable could've thought it up and that'd be enough. Semi-related speculation, Hanzo example might be pulling skills from his clan that they spread as inherited nen abilities
>>289808784*Massive*... ultra strong... tank shredder! >fires a decently sized HE shell that will do nothing to a tank beyond scorch the surface Maybe that's why it's a "shredder" It won't actually penetrate anything durable
>>289808297reminds me of those AI images of anime characters irl
>>289808818I see what you're saying. Then I'd wonder, what happens when a taught and/or inherited Ability clashes with a person's natural Category?Could it be that some of Camilla's Have-nots have more potent curses or potential to curse because of their individual Category?
It's funny how cammy and tse's ultimate counter nen abilities both get completely fucked by stealth deployed poison.I'm still baffled there is no nen user with a poison based ability yet, it literally beats everything.
>>289808805>Ackshually, the super bazooka was firing HE and not HEAT!Listen to yourself anon.Let's be real, if Togashi was such a weapons expert he wouldn't draw RPG blasts the size of a building or have people getting sent flying by gunfire like it's a hollywood movie
>>289808879>I'm still baffled there is no nen user with a poison based ability
>>289808878It's true that if an ability is granting the ability then it might supercede typing for the most part, while learning it could hinder non-matching people using the ability. But I'm not sure whether Togashi would opt for the efficiency route or the route that highlights the pitfalls of conforming to a societal nen technique. They (probably) at least match the concept/intent of the ability even if they don't perfectly match the typing.>>289808879>>289808916Rabid Dog just uses poison that exists similar to Chrollo and the Ben's Knife. But Yushohi is pretty clearly a Transmuter who specializes in poison.
>>289807897A bit unrelated but does anyone else find it weird how many times Chrollo gets a hit on Hisoka yet all of it is just tanked with minimal effort? Why doesn't Chrollo just carry around a weapon or something if he's physically on the weak side?
>>289808235>SakuraZaka46Togashi gonna blow his wrist cumming so hard and won't be able to draw anymore
>>289807897>>289808720>>289808809>>289808953clown faggots copers think chrollo is so weak he has to cheat to win. When he faced two (2) zoldycks solo and almost took one's life. While clowncuck would have gotten brutalized by Razor's ball
>>289808998Notice how zoldyck fans didn't say chrollo was cheating in their match unlike clowncucks? noticing....
>>289808998How I'm I a clownfag for pointing out that Hisoka easily tanks multiple direct hits by Chrollo? Maybe if he just brought his own weapon then the fight would've been over with in minutes, Chrollo being physically weak has been a recurring thing.
New schizo theory just dropped:>The Kurta are the original rulers of Kakin who where usurped by the Hui Go Rou dynasty through the use of the sacrificial nen ritual>the basis for the Gu ritual AND Beyon'ds curse is the scarlet eyes's ability Emperor Time, which allows the transmutation of human lifespan into nen>The untouchables are the descendents of the Kurtas who failed to escape the initial ritual and gradually lost the red eyes but still retained the ability to curse people to death through extreme emotion>the original purpose of the carne levare is to incite extreme emotions to force the scarlet eyes to activate so people whose bloodlines are strong can be selectively used to enrich the royal lineage>Beyond orchestrated the Kurta massacre using Sheila(she began working for him after becoming obsessed with the dark continent) , knowing the Kurta would absolutely freak out if someone connected to the inner circle of the Kakin empire was spying on them and fearing being wiped out capture and torture her for information, only to have this leaked by Beyond to the troupe
>>289802916It's easier to admit you need to lurk more narunigger
>>289808916>the shadow beast dog's bite is significantly stronger than an anti-tank shaped charge
>>289808998>>289809013uh oh cuckrollo melty
>>289809021isn't Emperor Time his own thing?
>>289809053
>>289808940He emits poison, since it's applied by his emitted nen beast btw.
>>289809039Nen is strong.If that missile was launched by a nen user amplifying it with Shu it would have donutted Uvogin easily.
>>289809053>chrollo melty when he has been seething for over 8 years almost every single thread about chrollo and how he's cheating>in fact there's only two replies that are pro-chrollo compared to the seethe that is anti-chrolloClowncucks are really retarded aren't they
>>289809079Not how it works.
>>289809067We really don't know, the red eyes naturally caused extreme exhaustion and weakness after giving a huge boost in strength for a short time, it's entirely possible they were always functioning like Emperor Time and burning lifespan to generate Nen. Assuming he wasn't bullshitting Uvogin of all people said they were "strong" which means either there were Nen using Kurtas or else the red eyes automatically activated nen usage to enhance their strength.
>>289805494Dude has no own opinions at all. All his critisism is based on stuff he has read online.
>>289802211>>289802211
>>289809021Kurapika reclaiming the Kurta's throne as King would be the coolest shit to ever grace this franchise, but I personally think the Kurtas are just randoms that used to live in the DC
>>289805477>Binolt was only competent enough to trouble early GI Gon and Killua To be fair he was badly wounded by Bisky, he probably could have killed them both if he wasn't
>>289809072I'll emit my foot up your ass
>>289809167Early on yes, but they basically let him get back into form as the days pass. I forget what card difficulty Bisky assigned him but it was only like B
>>289809187That's actually an entirely plausible Emission Hatsu.
>>289809166Unemployed -> Bodyguard -> Mafia boss -> Bodyguard -> Teacher -> King of Kakin
>>289809276>mobile game ads
>>289809247I did mark it after all
>>289809276>somehow a Zodiac but I honestly don't even think you can consider that an actual job and not some high school club
>>289809388He'll join the secret underground Zodiac. That one is based on the Constellations. (He will be Libra)
>>289807070>betterment>lets kill our siblings cause dads magic said so>lets kill our countrymen because it add fuel to dads magicThis idiot would kill 99% of the populace for any 'benefit'. Throw our people under the bus! At ant cost!
>>289805445The tsk is weakening him with every second, the curse will kill him much easily than if he was healthy, and in the end Ben will die to the curse. I give him 5 hours
>>289807008>Tserri is the only known exceptionincorrect
>>289809702>>lets kill our countrymen because it add fuel to dads magicBenjamin isn't a carnival participant. And he's showing a shocking amount of restraint in this situation aside from the Fratricide even when gunning down those two maids. I doubt he would approve of wanton slaughter of civlians, even Mizai knew that Benjamin would and did approve of sending more soldiers to the lower tiers to quell the serial killings and control the population. >>289809713I'd say Cammy's death curse will kill benjamin when he hits that coma so still 10 hours of life left. It's probably better for him he got cursed since that means he won't be left vulnerable and unaware anymore.
>>289806649Mark is in The Room.
>>289810294Haha what a story Mark
>>289807100>But Franklin's bullets also seem to be beyond Bloster, who can't do anything to the properly reinforced areasAnd where is it implied that Bloster's bullets wouldn't go through Sachimono the same way?
>>289809019>Maybe if he just brought his own weapon then the fight would've been over with in minutesHow did that work for Togari, Razor and Gotoh?Chrollo didn't bring a weapon because it could've been used against him.
