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Seiya is stronger than Sailor Moon
>>290009376Maybe than base Sailor Moon but she rekts him after getting the silver crystal
>>290009428Didn't Deathmask return from it?
>>290009430Not seeing it. Even that wouldn't be enough.
>>290009533Seiya is just regular bronze tier unless he's fighting for justice or to save Athena, neither would apply to a fight between him and Sailor Moon
Sailor Moon does some bullshit in the mangaLike the time she let Sailor Saturn kill everyone in the Solar System and then revived them
>>290009574That just isn't true. Seiya's withstood countless assaults from golds, the mariners have even shown equivalent strength too (even if they are a tad weaker than the golds overall), battering them even though they've got a better 7th sense and improved cloths than the 12 temples versions. Seiya stopped being at the strength of a bronze at the silver saint arc when he used an attack quite literally 100 times stronger than his ryusei ken. Athena doesn't even need to be present for it anyway, she never was for any of his miracles.
I had a DVD of the Hades Saga when I was a kidFor some reason, Saga going "Are you gonna copy all of my tricks, Kanon?" when he does the two Temples thing stuck with meForgot to mention it yesterday
>>290009582My guess is Shaka.
>>290009639All of those times he's fighting for justice or Athena, only then he can make his cosmos explode to to gold+ levels
>>290009708So, in this setting is Buddha another god reincarnated or is he just some dude with a large cosmos?
>>290009708The epic fight has just started.
Pizza got here faster than I expectedBack in a moment
>>290009452Thanks for Hades
>>290010313If Shaka is so strong and righteous why wasn't he chosen as the next pope?
>>290009692In which palace are they?
>>290010368Roshi is currently fulfilling the position
>>290009740Big dude, strong cosmo, and another thing
>>290009730ENTER
>>290010368Virgo judges Athena instead of being blindly faithful to her
>>290010370
>>290010534Oh thanks.>>290010571 such a spoiler
>>290010686>SHIRYU?>TRYING TO HELP ME?>DIE A THOUSAND DEATHS YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>290010686>Shiryu? Gtfokek
>>290010686>>290010717>>290010758This only gets funnier each time.
>>290010713>You are sightless, why are you there?Out hypocrite'd Camus.
>>290010912Wait for it
>>290010953Shion, you two are the same age
>>290010953>muh immortality bad sob sobSays Dohko, who's over 240 years old.
Didn't know he had a ponytail in the manga, it looks so much worse.
>>290011003Technically Roshi is 13+ years older
>>290011003Well, Dohko is older, because Shion has been dead for the last 13-14 years.
>>290011015>Didn't know he had a ponytail in the mangaAnd a cute ribbon!
>>290011064Wait, this attack was a punch?
>>290011007To be fair, he (technically) aged and didn't wind up under Hades's thumb
>>290011086>>290011118This raises more questions about the attack
>>290011118Why is Shion the same strength but all the other revived jobbers are way weaker than back during Sanctuary?
>>290011118>He expelled the damage by flexing his muscleThis is some shit I'd see in Baki
>>290011168Cute ribbon.
>>290011162I don't think the revived Gold Saints got weaker, everyone else got stronger while they were dead.Prime Shion is stronger than most of the current Gold Saints
>>290011162Their strengths are meant to be from their peak moment when they were alive. JOBmask and JOBrodite are just jobbers.
>>290011162Camus and Shura weren't that strong, they are currently being carried by Saga.Deathmask/Cancer lost fair and square to Shiryu.It is hard to judge Aphrodite's strenght.
>>290011215This and>>290011233This.
>>290011162>>290011168>can't even kill an old fart with no cloth with his main attack
>>290011245Shura is strong at least top 5 gold saint
>>290011215>>290011233>>290011245There is no way Seiya just got strong enough to ragdoll Deathmask during Poseidon.
>>290011297He faced Poseidon and many other strong foes before. It's normal that he wrecked a jobber Gold.
>>290011297>There is no way Seiya just got strong enough to ragdoll Deathmask during Poseidon.The only thing saving Deathmask from Shiryu, was his cloth, if Seiya = Shiryu, not even it can save him from the bronzes now.
>>290011323He was amped by Aioros and had another 2-3 other cosmos to stack on. One general he couldn't make up his mind on how to scale and he got tricked and one-shot by the other.>>290011332But Deathmask has a cloth that doesn't care how shitty he is now?
It's worth mentioning that Gold Cloths are the strongest not-divine armors around, Surplices are the same from Frog to Wyvern
>>290011322You might have trained Shiryu a little too well Roshi, he turned down peace with Sunrei to fight for justice.
>>290010713The way Athena and the other saints are violent against the bronze is soo bizarre, they are being treated so badly that you can think that is a traitor among the bronze saints
>>290011417The strength of a Surplice depends on who's wearing it, while a Gold Cloth can buff its wearer
>>290011467It's like when someone is mean to their pet to get it to leave
>>290011467This is one of those 'we're being cruel to be kind and keep you out of trouble' deals. I'm not a huge fan of it.
>>290011503It is surprising how undetailed his tattoo is compared to Shiryu's
>>290011395Power scaling at this point of the story is retarded.
>>290011439>>290011473How nice of Shion to describe what's happening for Shiryu's benefit
>>290011395>But Deathmask has a cloth that doesn't care how shitty he is now?Yes, but the bronzes have near gold cloths now.
>>290010759oh, now he doesn't want Shiryu to die. how honorable
>>290011503what a cute tiger
>>290011473HOLY FUCK, THIS POKEMON IS EVOLVING!!>>290011530Worse tattoist, probably.
One thing that is lost on translation is how the knights have the Nikke buff which makes all the difference
>>290009695Not true. Seiya wasn't even fighting for Athena when battling silvers. He didn't even really rely on her in the 12 temples arc either. All of the Aiolia fight was him tanking shit.
>>290011557I thought cloths only help with defense and maybe speed. We always see the bronzes break their cloths and only get stronger offensively.
>>290011395His Cloth is now on almost Gold level after being revived by a Gold Saint. Even if it wasn't, you can't blame a series focused on "burning your Cosmos to the infinity" for having its protag winning by his determination and shit.Deathmask's Surplice is weaker than Gold Cloth.
Okay, but how did Shion live for around 250 years?Do Muvians just live that long?
>>290011596What a stud, look at him!>>290011616They amplify Cosmo and serve as defence, yeah. But mostly the former.
>>290011614he used the Shen method
>>290011596>>290011614>>290011639HE'S JUST LIKE THE CONNECTOR
>>290011639Grande Padre privilege, me thinks. But if that's the case, then Dohko's mission was more like a punishment, kek.
>>290011637>Deathmask's Surplice is weaker than Gold Cloth.That's what I expected. I'm just waiting to see Shion prove he got weaker too without his gold cloth.
>>290011639I always thought that yes, they are longer lived, Shion even implied that he was decrepit when he died
>>290011697>barechested fightYup, he's Shiryu's master.
>>290011730ENTER FUAAARK
>>290011544ENTER
>>290011730I need to see Roshi be an asshole looking like this too.
>>290011756I think he did it in soul of gold.
>>290011770See ya in 1000 days, kek.
>>290011794Why doesn't a scale show up behind him?
>>290011639People of Mu are longer lived compared to humans, Shion was an old man when he got killed.
>>290011824He was a Tiger saint for some Chinese diety, got recruited by Athena and eventually became Libra saint
One thing I really enjoy in the TLC Gaidens is getting to see other pantheonsLike Kardia meeting Quetzalcoatl
>>290011935Mu, you already saw one of themAldebaran pulled a Kenshiron on him before dying
>>290009230Why did you take so long? I have to keep vomiting; I want perfect bulimia.
>>290011950*Kenshiro
>>290011524Shiryu missed a crazy moment by being blind.
>>290012104Barabros, one of our heroes is here!
>>290012207Man, being chosen by the Frog Surplice must fucking suck
>>290012232The Final Edition removed the line about Papillon being able to beat all Gold Saints by himsel
I think it's neat how Mu is kinda like the protagonist of this early portion of the arc. running up the houses like our bronze boys, getting overwhelmed by people that are out of his league but managing to pull through
>>290012232>>290012267Yeah, that's the biggest change of the newest volume of Final Edition from what I heard.
>>290012148ENTERThe talking slimeWait what?
I don't whatever the fuck Papillon has going on has ever been explained
>>290012365What a weird Pokemon.>>290012304Yes, that's a nice change of pace and perspective. It makes this part of the final arc even better.
>>290012385*don't think
>>290011596This page reads like an old magazine ad.
>>290012423>The Insult that made a man out of Dohko
>>290012385I'm assuming he's like a metamorphosing insect. they're basically just goop when they're inside their cocoons (although the order of evolution is silly, he went from goop to caterpillar which doesn't make much sense)
>>290009376Let's not pit two celestial pretty warrior idiots against each other now
Does Papillon have to do this shit every time he fights?
>>290012597Mu, have you never seen a cocoon before?
>>290009475Spooky
>>290012661.....can we go back to Shaka and the spectres?
>>290012652Going by the spin-offs, noHe didn't in Saint Mariya
Speaking of Sailor Moon, I have the joke theory that Myu is so weird cause he's actually from the same planet as Sailor Heavy Metal Papillon
>>290012652No, it's the only time in all Saint Seiya manga in which the Papillon Specter has to morph and shit.
>>290012661Hot
>>290010713And Athena could not tell them this because..? Also we never did get a good explanation as to why Roshi prevented the Gold Knights from going to save Athena
>>290012825This fight was shortened in the OVA. One of few cons of this brilliant OVA sequel.
>>290010759>I don't get it.Understandable with the lack of downtime the Bronzes get.
>>290012579>Be Myu>Born human and had a normal life>One day you see a star shining menacingly>Wake up>You're a slime
>>290012760>>290012783>>290012801>>290012825>>290012844>>290012873>>290012896>>290012921The anime skipped all of this in this fight, in favor of a prolonged scene of Seiya going>Lemme at 'im, Mu!
>>290012232>evolutionThis sounds like it's going to be so fucking cheap.
>>290011824Taoism, tiger + dragon = balance
>>290009557You know, compared to the anime, they really hammer on our heads that these goldies are actually good despite their goal.Makes the twist of it all being some 4D chess plan weaker.
>>290012982Ah, like the Tiger Talisman in Jackie Chan Adventures
>>290012940Yeah, it really sucked that this rather fresh and good arc had to be trimmed down. I would've preferred it being adapted entirely instead of getting revived Silver Saints filler at the beginning.
>>290012988spoilers, retard
>>290012018It really feels like they weren't meant to be human
>>290013048is only Miro and Shaka left?
>>290012661There's something disturbingly uncanny about his appearance.
>>290012988The exact same scene is in the anime, it's all about the wording in the translation.
>>290012952Kurumada reused the concept in silent knight sho
>>290011950Mu was coping Niobe didn't count as one exactly because Aldebaran Kenshiro'd him (before he almost killed Mu himself).
Oh man.Two of Hades' soldiers actually lived up to their names and defeated gold saints.Not bad, but this just increases my fear of them getting wiped out all at once later, for some really shitty reason.
>>290009644They already wasted 3 HOURS to get out of that illusion?
>>290013117bro teleported a couple meters away lol
>>290012988>t. I can't use spoiler tags
>>290012783>Okay, I don't feel like jobbing anymore.>>290012845They were needed on standby since Hades' army could wake up at any time.
>>290013163Not a bad score so far. Bronze Saints were built different, so Specters of various types invading Sanctuary and defeating Gold Saints going all-out is a impressive achievement.
>>290013188>They were needed on standby since Hades' army could wake up at any time.Dohko was dumb as fuck back then. Without Athena there would be no need to defend Sanctuary. He could've sent at least one Gold Saint to aid Seiya and others.
>>290012705Maybe they did it offscreen, the specters just awakened
>>290009765That's literally excalibur
>>290013253Morphing before entering the battle wouldn't be a bad idea if the Papillon Specter fought without setting a trap or surprise factor.
>>290013253Yeah, but that would still mean he doesn't have to do it every fight
>>290011871Wait, really?
>>290013252They keep saying killing Athena is only the beginning. I guess beating back the army was even more important.
>>290013076They also have Kanon and Aioria
>>290013353>humans????? bro was a puddle of tar not even a minute ago
>>290013151>>290013265same move doesn't work twice count?
>>290013353>>290013374Getting the Papilion and Frog Surplices sucks ass then.
>>290012282>ugly eruptionHeh that's what I call it when I
>>290010479ENTER
>>290013342Without Athena the war is lost. They can fight and die, sure, but without Athena they would've lost the war to whoever managed to kill her.
>>290013087It is the eyes.>>290013353This raises more questions.>>290013374So reincarnation?>>290013407Others too, the giants' speech balloons were coming from armor's his eye
>>290013504great panel
>>290013341Don't listen to that Anon. He mentions stuff from a spin-off that's not canon to the original story.
>>290013504Epic.>>290013527The frogman, kek.
>>290013527imagine having to wear this
>12 Gold Knights>7 Mariners>108 SpectersSo what should Zeus' army be?
>>290013514>So reincarnation?Everyone assumed thatBut Next Dimension shows that it isn't the case
>>290012661>he was a fairy
>>290013446my undefeated goat
>>290013469Hades seems to be dangerous enough for Athena's wellbeing not to matter in comparison. At least that's what's being implied at this point.
Done for todayCome back tomorrow to see if Aioria can beat the Spectre Army
>>290013553Hard to say Apollo apparently only has a handful of angels, and Artemis' structure wasn't given >>290013557I mentioned that it raised more questions
I guess Mu is top tier
>>290013553angels
>>290012844Mu versus, uh, Myu too!
>>290013609thanks for the dump!
>>290013504My hero...
>>290012921I'm just imaging a 2d image of myu spinning around cheap photoshop style
>>290013553Not sure about the number but Zeus's army should be dinosaur themed
>>290013609Imagine putting on that armor just to turn you into a pile of goop. Or it's only once and then it stays like that when fully evolved.
>>290013696It is just his demigods bastards
>>290012939>accidentally turned him into the Tasmanian devil
>>290013599Without Athena and with Poseidon fully awakened, it'd have been a war between Poseidon and Hades anyway. And Hades would've won. Gold Saints wouldn't matter, despite their strength. Unless a miracle happened (yeah, I know this manga likes that kind of stuff). >>290013609Thanks!
>>290013557Funny how Hades can give armor to his foot soldiers >>290013714It seems to be only once.
>>290011289>Shura is strong at least top 5 gold saint>Shaka>Saga>Dohko>AiorosMaybe if you don't count Kanon and Shion, but he doesn't seem particularly stronger to me than Aioria, Camus, and especially Mu.
>>290013722Armor based on Zeus's demigod descendants or an army of Zeus's demigod descendants?>>290013714That one Stern Ritter from Bleach feels like a modern take on Myu, substitute evolution and telekinesis for adaptation and poison.
>>290013837>an army of Zeus's demigod descendants?This one, Athena already has armors based on hers half brothers
>>290013837>adaptation and poisonAskin? Or Pernida?
One of the gachas changed Deathmask and Aphrodite's last moments before being rekilled>Finally, I never took advantage of this illusionary life. What a pity>Then, let's die together again
>>290014064Pairing them up seems like a natural conclusion due to being the losers of the Gold Knights.
I liked their interactions in Soul of Gold. Though they also gave Deathmask a girl.
>>290014094They are also paired up in fillers, soul of gold and one official Gaiden.
>>290010251 >>290010281 >>290010313 >>290010341 >>290010378 >>290010406https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2adm-zeZoh8He's so fucking cool.Why wasn't I born a virgo?
>>290014114Talking about it, was the Cassiopeia santia Deathmask's girl, or just a tool to redeem him a bit?
>>290012661>>290013609
Nobody like Aphrodite for homophobia, but I don't remember Deathmask being considered particularly a jobber before the Hades anime came out.
For me it's Deroa Tephi
>>290013933Both, now that I think on it. Pernida was evolution + messing with nervous system
>>290014214Who is she?
>>290013593Rams are sheep, actually.
>>290014141Cassiopeia was there to ask the initial question of how Cancer is a Saint.Saintia's interpretation is that Deathmask, despite his terrible ways, remained proud to be a knight of justice (not Athena) and therefore still somewhat in line with his duty.
>>290014236Rearrange the letters
>>290011086>Delayed 1000 ping attackAldebaran no waza da!
>>290009708classic and based
>>290014187kek
>>290012921>>290013695
>>290010686lmao, Roshi really just wants to see shiryuu killed
>>290011730
>>290011473>>290011503KINO
>>290014187Now I realize that this is a spoiler, but I doubt any first timers speak Spanish
>>290012018>>290013583
>>290011439Holy mother of BULLSHIT
>>290013609thanks op
>>290014305I see, what series does she appear in?
>>290011503>>290011524>>290011544>Libra, Tiger and DragonGeez Dohko, how come Athena let you hold 3 constellations?
>>290014488G2
>>290014490Tiger was connected to the diety he served before becoming a Saint, according to spin off(Lost Canvas). There was a Tigris constellation that was based on a river in ancient times but that constellation no longer exists
>>290014491What's her role in that story? I've never read it but heard a lot of crazy stuff about it.
>>290014342
>>290014444I wonder if Xenomophs influenced Kurumada
>>290014523Well, Cerberus opens the precedent of extinct constellations still being in use by Athena.
>>290012304It's to make up for the fact that he didn't fight at all up until this arc.
>>290014546Not much, there's a subplot where the new Athena is split into two girls and Aphrodite Pisces acts as bodyguard for the hidden one.
>>290014365His helmet even has a tiger motif, huh.
>>290012526Everyone is copying excalibur in this arc, makes you wonder why Shura was so special for having it.
>>290014657Cerberus was still a constellation when the manga was being published, I think.Oddly enough, Toad, Owl(appeared in Lost Canvas)and Seahorse are also former constellations.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_constellations
>>290014761It stopped being a constellation during the early 1900s.Also, apparently there are more than 25 silver constellation
>>290009557>there isn't much timeI thought they had 12 hours?
>>290009644Kek, at least the time waster bullshit is working on the enemy too.
>>290014823The exact number of Silver and Bronze cloths was never revealed.Athena is said to have 88 Saints but her army might be bigger than 88 since there are likely other cloths based on former constellations.
>>290012801>>290012825>>290013334>>290013353>>290013446You know, having all thins build up for Papilion just for him to lose so easily leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
>>290013019>>290013171I'm gonna be honest with you guys, not only did i forget to do that when i made the post, i also forgot how long this section of Hades was and expected the story to already be there by the time i made that post, my bad.
>>290013609Thanks OP!
>Final edition.Talking about it, I wonder if Kurumada will had more stuff to it.
>>290014333Real
>Check out saint seiya original volumes.>turns out it only has 110 chapters.It is surprising short.
>>290010686Kek, holy shit roshi.
>>290010713>you want to fight the Gold Saints while you're blind? Good, good, good. Go on then.>you already beat some Golds while blind before! I know this won't kill you now! go away!Sasuga.
>>290015080Saint Seiya is one of those titles that had a relatively short run but it has a huge influence in the industry that still continue to this day. Recently the creator of Blue Lock admitted to be inspired by Saint Seiya.
>>290010868Now Shiryu! Suckerpunch that motherfucker!
>>290015164Yes, it is always surprising to remember it, KnY that is considered a short series has 200s
>>290011118>it's like flexing his musclesIT'S NIKO STYLE'S ADAMANTINE KATA!
>>290011439>>290011473Fucking bullshit.
>>290011524Shouldn't he be able to tell what's happening from Dohko's cosmo becoming stronger/younger/fresher?
>>290015164It's kind of an elemental story structure, and since it's so repetitive it becomes very clear what that structure is.
>>290011639Fucking cultivator.
>>290011871That sounds like some bullshit, but there's already Buddha and Japanese underworld in this manga. So I don't think it's a stretch he has the power of a chink zodiac.
gotta ask, whats the anon favorite cloth/armor in the entire manga so far?
>>290011950That barrier around the Palace of Athena is such garbage. They need to fire whoever's in charge of it.
>>290011639Wait, does this mean Roshi went into old man form immediately and postponed his youth?
>>290012385This nigga had never seen a caterpillar in his life before.
>>290012617>Papillon, you truly are your namesakeWhy the fuck is he pretending to not know what caterpillar and cocoon are?
>>290012597>>290012617>>290012637>>290012661Behold the strongest Incest type monster in all of Duel Monsters. THE PERFECTLY GREAT MOTH
>>290015383Probably the Wyvern surplice. I also like the Saggitarius cloth. From the bronze saints, I like the dragon cloth
>>290015383Wyvern, Cerberus
>>290012921>I've never tried to take an enemy's life>allies though, multiple times
>>290015293You have to give Saint Seiya more credit considering how influential is even after many decades. I think the show appeals to creator's sensibilities because it's about standing for your ideals and never back down so they keep being inspired by Saint Seiya even if they're told to read DBZ and Hokuto no Ken and ignore Kurumada
>>290015080>>290015164Akira Toriyama was mostly just bullshit gags in the beginning and the same tropes up until his editors forcing to focus more on super extreme fights and great choreographers.Before that Dragonball was just Dr.Slump 2.0 but with sorta of an ongoin story, the main MC was so stupid and retarded he had no morals and had to be ordered around what to do, the female heroine and many of the others were inssuferable cunt because Toriyama had a weird henpecked fetish of writing bitchy jerkass woman you wanna punch in the face because ''they are strong with great agency'' except not really, most of the other males are literal sexpest pigs or retarded punching bags, and the humor was just awkward that only Toriyama liked and no one else.Doesnt help that all the mangas that were inspired by Toriyama were inspired by the worst aspects of Toriyama's writing to the point they feel like anything except human beings or characters, and much like those overstayed their welcome and turn out for the worst, One Piece, Naruto and Shaman King during its run and after its revival, well, i read jokes about how WSJ were actually astroturfing Toriyama to the top while screwing over Kurumada who tried his bests in spite of his shortcomings but got always the short end of the stick.
>>290013527Kurumada isn't even trying with this one.
>>290013609Thanks OP.
>>290015671Kurumada himself admit Toriyama was more talented than him but Toriyama was always a company man while Kurumada has problems with authority figures since school so it's obvious who was Shueisha going to prefer
>>290015383Cyclops Surplice. Also the Pisces cloth doesn't get enough credit because of the user.
>>290015671>and the humor was just awkward that only Toriyama liked and no one elseI find that hard to believe, since Dr. Slump was also popular.
>>290015775yeah, with how draconic shueisha is it's no wonder he jumped ship and landed with akita shoten.also say what you will about kurumada's work, it's pretty respectable that instead of just accepting otokozaka being axed he just goes "fuck you i'll continue it on my own" and years later he did
>>290015004Is that version ongoing?
>>290015991yeah, it's currently on volume 15, i think i heard it will be 20 volumes long so it's close to the end
>>290011730Fun fact this is what Young Dohko used to look in anime before the manga reached this point, i dont remember if we ever got to see this design in the anime, all that i know is that i think once the 2000s reprints of this old figurines were made, they updated the design.
>>290015383Wyvern.
>>290015891 fun fact: one of the reason why the hades chapter feels rushed after certain point was because it was at the edge of being cancelled due to low popularity
>>290016686Huh that is interesting. What could've cause the series popularity to dip that badly?
>>290016945my theory? a mix of kurumada already feeling both phsycally and mentally tired, the anime getting axed due to low ratings and poor figure sales (thanks asgard arc) and shueshia pressure might be the cause
>>290015869Dr. Slump worked because it was a schoolboy edgetard manga about poop and perv jokes, basically mocking kids manga by making the character absolute morons and terrible people, and started the trend that other mangakas, him and Rumiko Takahashi introduced, and others copied to death.
>>290017310I read here on this board that BanDai and Toei screw over the original anime, firing the original anime director from it right before the Sanctuary arc ended so thats why the Asgard saga felt so weird for most people, in theory i get why it was done, to not catch up to the manga.
>>290017514huh never heard of that.i only knew that they changed the hades sanctuary director after the whole movie 5 fiasco
Maybe I just got tired but this arc doesn't look so appealing to me, I can't even finish vol. 19 yet.
>>290011395but cancer and isces have the debuff of being disliked by the author
>>290011432Roshi was not expecting Shiryu to be so retarded.
>>290012304>>290012323Also shows how fucked the situation is considering how untouchable Mu felt in the anime.
>>290014714Either his is somehow more powerful, or he taught it to everyone else.
>>290018181What exactly was he expecting, knowing how he taught Shiryu?
>>290013117Mubros...we're hiding like a bitch
>>290014624Aliens and Giger were big in Japan at the time, so probably.
>>290013163I disagree. Athena is the goddess of war. Her soldiers should be the strongest in battle, along with Ares soldiers. The others should be superior in other things relating to the domain of their god
>>290015842what does it even do?The roses are the user power not the cloth
>>290015502To be fair, he was too inhuman in behavior.Before Hades, we only had dudes in armors, instead of living goo
>>290019365I was just talking about the design, I think it looks cool.
>>290017434I'd say that a lot of that traces back to Go Nagai, especially MCs being unrepentant sexpests.
>>290015383Wyvern. That "base" design is sick.
>>290015671nah tori also had a lot of talent as an artist
>>290015383Gemini
>>290013792>killed aioros>wewaker than him
>>290022700Now do it without the "fleeing guy protecting a baby" handicap.
>>290022700Aioros was without a cloth and wasn't even fighting back.
>>290015383it's impossible for me to not be biased towards my sign's gold cloth, Aries. although I also like the current Pegasus cloth, with the wide pointy shouldersmy number one favorite hasn't shown up yet, Athena's kamui
What do you think? Man or woman?
>>290024712>masklessman. unless OP lied that is.
>>290024891This is from a shoujo spin-off where there's nobody left to enforce the mask ruleThe three Saints so far are all women and none wear the maskAlthough one might also be Athena
>>290011639Yes, that and the fact that a saint training allows you to live longer, like studying ripples in JoJo allows you to do the same
>>290024712That's obviously a man.
>>290015383Even if it´s shilled to dead i think the sagittarius cloth looks really cool, so it´s my favorite.Also because it´my sign
>>290015383I need to see them all in color to choose. Every cloth has meshed together in my head.
>>290015775Toryama started with gag mangas because when he asked what was the hit of the moment they told him It was Kurumada's Ring ni Kakero so he decided to work to a complete different genere.
>>290009557RIP Big Jobber Bull
Is Ring ni Kakero also nonstop people fight like this?
>>290016079Young Dohko appears in a flashback in the Asgard archttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfcXtWMFQeY
>>290024951The spin-offs always try do do a work around this rule
>>290029497It's awkward to have women wearing a mask when the majority of the SS fandom in Asia are women
>>290030953That's fitting if anything, fujos don't care about female characters.
>>290031060Yeah but probably women don't enjoy to see female characters covered up.
>>290024951>spoilerThat was predictable. Just look at the other SS shoujo retellings- Sailor Moon: Usagi is essentially a goddess- Magic Knight Rayearth: Hikaru makes the wish- Mermaid Melody: Lucia becomes the new Aqua ReginaWomen want to be at the center and dress beautiful dresses. Men are more simple, they just want to hang out with their bros and have a waifu at home waiting with the dinner
>>290028109And its a different design of course.
>>290017550The Fifth movie ended up being an EoE type of Mess but it was because Toei already cut them budget and the director did not stood by Kurumada's ideas.
>>290022083And Women being phsycothic neurotic jerks
>>290022640>nah tori also had a lot of talent as an artistI never denied that, Yes, if anything Toriyama's art, as goofy as it was during early dragonball with the overly cartoony way he draw everybody, was very appealing to say the least, Kurumada always stood in his comfort zone when it came to art.
>>290032331how are those SS shojo retellings?
>>290033744Rayearth is a legally distinct Saga x Saori doujin
>>290024951I thought they were random high school girls Kiki recruited with no ties to Athena or Sanctuary
>>290033903Normally I'd say Seiya was cucked but Ferio (non-Seiya) got best girl Fuu so it was for the best
>>290034042There's been some hints that Mariya might be more than that
>>290011473what the fuck
>>290035625Based Kurumada
>>290024712A man. I think he won't be the Dragon Saint, but the Libra one.
>>290024712Saint Mariya's Tuxedo Mask? The author seems to be a fan of Sailor Moon
>>290013334>catches the butterfly in a websimple but effective
>>290014936>Oh Papillon is already there? Great. We've got this. He can solo all the gold saints>Dies unceremoniously to the first guy he facesclassic
>>290036389To be fair, Papillon could easily defeat guys like Milo and Aldebaran, not including Deathmask if he was still alive. Mu is one of the top gold saints
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