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Volume 62
The Crack
Chapter 594: The Progenitor
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oh no
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Did this boring explanation really need 5 pages of completely stopping the moment of "The world is gonna end"? It literally could've been done in one panel.
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>>290053335
SO THE ENTIRE WAR FOR THE 8 AND 9 TAILS WAS POINTLESS
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>>290053381
I thought only shikamaru the 360 IQ genius could realise the biju container is actually the ten tails
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Oh right, we need to waste time so Obito can be revealed in chapter 600.
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>>290053435
yay, the ninja who copied 1000 jutsu will finally use one of them!
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>>290053381
>>290053397
>You know B, maybe you should've killed that Uchiha boy instead of getting a "vacation"
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>>290053444
tobi has met kakashi before, I wonder why he didnt seethe at him back then

probably would've been too obvious
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>>290053435
Look at Kakashi trying to look tough
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B&W
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>>290053413
>>290053420
This is the last time "Naruto" has this look btw.
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>>290053451
Deidara?
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>>290053503
>i had my ma and my pa
yeah, but a certain coolest guy killed 'em
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This entire chapter is just filler.
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>>290053463
>His strength is the added total of all bijuu
So a slightly buffed nine tails, got it
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>>290053525
kurama has lost his entire personality and became a naruto simp
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>>290053579
The war arc is essentially filler until Naruto and Sasuke clash again
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>>290053444
Obito, you're making it way too easy at this point.
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>>290053538
>naruto, who is faster than the raikage, gets repelled by ordinary taijutsu

power scaling makes no sense
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>>290053444
>You who can't remember faces
HERE IT IS
HE'S SAYING HE'S HIS OLD MASTER
TOBI IS MINATO CONFIRMED!!!
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>>290053559
Kinda sad but I'm still happy that we got to see it again at all.
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>>290053475
...Then why didn't he want to revive Madara? They have the same goal.
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>>290053541
His ruse as playing Madara has been exposed, so it's harder to hold back his real feelings. Now he's finally getting personal.
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>>290053463
>6 of the bijuus + a piece of the 8 tails + a bit of the 9 tails might still be weaker than half of Kurama
Kek what the fuck
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>>290053626
.... guy was never in team minato
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>>290053621
Slowpoke Madara
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>>290053514
>dreams must be fufilled
Except Sasuke's...and Kiba's...and Ino's...and Tsunade's...every bad guy's dream.
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>>290053538
What is that fan made of?
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>>290053444
LMAO @ Tobi's pent up incel rage towards Kakashi
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>>290053484
Why not just kill all of humanity at this point instead of forcing everyone into a dream?
Man it's so retarded how the initial first 2 plans of the Akatsuki (Pain telling Hidan they want to sell the bijuus for profit, Pain telling Naruto that he wants to give the power of the bijuus to different nations for peace) were far more reasonable than this shit.
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>>290053718
7 of the biju.
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Done!
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>>290053826
That little rasengan won't even scratch the cuffs on Gedo statue. Naruto should just spam clones in base and overwhelm Tobi with Guy and Kakashi.

Bee can blast the statue.
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>>290053833
yea mb
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>>290053538
>>290053826
>>290053843
arigatou, OP!
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>>290053475
Besides the turning into zetsu thing, you cannot argue against the infinite tsukuyomi being a good thing
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>>290053901
This guy is more iconic than any of the 4 main villains of the war arc.
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>>290053908
>Besides the bad thing about this evil plan, you cannot argue against this evil plan being a good thing!
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The fact that these 2 literal whos are so crucial to the plot of the final arc is really retarded
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>>290053958
Obito and Madara didn't know about the zetsu thing. They were right with what info they had
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>>290053908
I mean I'm pretty sure there are a lot of depressed people on this site who'd want to be isekai'd in their paradise world forever
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>>290053991
They're essentially bringing the end of the world. They might as well just kill all the humans on earth and their plan would the same.
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>>290053908
The large majority of people would not want to give up their life to live in an ideal simulation and forcing them to do that against their will is not a good thing.
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>>290053991
Did you forget that they intended to kill people on the way?
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>>290054001
This anon gets it
>>290054035
The end point may be the same but the journey isn't. You essentially get to live in heaven before actually dying
>>290054039
Maybe millennial uncs. But zoomers and younger don't have anything to look forward to
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>>290053413
>>290053420
Is sure is convenient that talking is a free action and the masked man is patiently waiting for the explanation to end.
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>>290053579
That's the war arc
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>>290054043
>intended
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>>290053643
He knows Madara placed a seal on his heart to control him. He didn't want to bring him back due to being untrustworthy.
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>>290053991
You do realize neither Obito or Madara weren't even trying to get people on their side, right?
That's already enough for people in universe to not side with them.
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>>290054336
Forgot to reply to this >>290054162 too
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>>290054162
Sad
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>>290054206
>getting mad about a convention of the genre
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>>290053475
So why did you wait when you've had the 9-tails chakra for a whole day?
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Hiashi won.
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>>290053964
So maybe I'm retarded and not following this correctly.
>needed to revive them to get access to the gourd and the bits of 9 tails chakra they possess
>sent them out to the battlefield as regular combatants in hopes they get captured by the gourd to store the 9 tails chakra so he can put it in the statue
>then needed to personally run out onto the battlefield to collect them
Is that roughly what happened? What was his plan if Kabuto didn't conveniently appear, know the Edo Tensei, perform it, and happen to have DNA from the both of them on hand? For that matter, why did he send them out onto the battlefield if his goal was to have them sealed? It's so convoluted I feel like I must be either misremembering or misinterpreting something.
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>>290054420
I'm not mad but Kishimoto really really really really loves abusing that trope
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>>290054645
The brothers were never in his plans, he just seized an opportunity. It's not that complicated, it's just bad writing.
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>>290053843
thanks, OP!
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>>290054645
Originally he was going to just need to get Eight and Ninetails for this (Well, he has Eight's tentacle anyways, so only Ninetails really), but then he could work with this.
Should've just asked Kabuto nicely instead of going to war.
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>>290053475
>It is only within a single collective consciousness, where the individual has been cast aside, that the truth can be found!

Anime/Manga Challenge: Come up with a world-ending scheme that ISN'T just Instrumentality again.
Difficulty Level: IMPOSSIBLE
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>>290054645
Kishimoto is a shitty writer
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>>290054824
>>290054843
But once he realized Kabuto could summon them, why even bother going through this entire massive war? You have a guaranteed method right in front of you.
But I guess the primary question is "why even declare war in front of the 5 Kage to begin with?" God damn this entire war arc is so abso irredeemably retarded. Before Kabuto showed up, his entire army consisted of him, Kisame, and 100,000 fodder.
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Reminder: Kabuto had 0 reason to help Obito out. If he didn't help him at all, there's no way Obito woild have been successful and the alliance would have taken him out, then Kabuto could have made his move on Sasuke and had no issues because Solo King wouldn't be running around.
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>>290054039
>The large majority of people would not want to give up their life to live in an ideal simulation and forcing them to do that against their will is not a good thing.

They're fools.
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>>290055256
>But once he realized Kabuto could summon them
I don't think Obito knew who Kabuto had in his deck outside the Akatuski and Madara. Once they were summoned, they were already on the battlefield.
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>>290055331
You're already in a simulation, so what makes you believe you won't have this same sentiment in a different one?
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>>290055322
I really don't want to be a powerlevel retard, but Kabuto summoning enough Shinobi to damn near take over the world is insane. And the fact that this is a forbidden jutsu that no one besides the antagonists ever, EVER abuse is retarded. This is the single most busted jutsu in existence. It is more imbalanced than any of the biju. Kabuto effectively summoned the combined, full force of the Akatsuki except they're all immortal zombies with an infinite chakra pool. Plus 6 Jinchuriki, several Kage, and of course Madara who is more powerful than damn near all of the other Edo Tensei revivals combined.
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>>290055367
Kabuto not telling him about this makes it even more retarded. It was common knowledge that they ate bits of the 9 tails, so Kabuto himself undoubtedly knew about this.
>hey I want to join your side to get Sasuke, here's a bunch of famous zombies
>also here's Madara as proof I know you're not him
>oh yeah, I also have these two guys that have bits of the 9 tails chakra inside them
>hey wait, why don't I just trade you these two, who will guarantee you complete the gedo statue, in exchange for Sasuke?
>nah nevermind I won't do that who cares
>oh also if you succeed I'll be trapped in the same genjutsu anyway
It's all so tiresome.
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>>290053538
Yes, one of my favorite fucking fights is coming.
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>>290055520
Kabuto was never on Obito's side. His whole "plan" was to have him and the alliance take each other out, which goes back to his involvement being completely unnecessary to begin with.
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>>290055582
>he's looking forward to any of the remaining fights in the war
Which one?
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>>290055613
Literally this one. It's short but I love the Obito vs. Naruto, Bee, Guy, Kakashi fight.
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>>290055736
I guess it's better than most the war fights.
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>>290055591
Kishi realized that Obito + 100,000 clones is absolutely 0 threat to the entire combined Shinobi world at whole, so he wanted an excuse to summon 1,000 zombies and throw a buncha famous names and callbacks out there.
Only thing is that it fucked with the powersclaing so ridiculously. Why didn't Orochimaru summon more zombies when he started the Crush Konoha invasion? Kabuto collected some on his own, I'm sure, but Orochimaru was collecting a shitload of these dudes himself. The first and second Hokage were also so ludicrously upscaled that Hiruzen competing with both them and Orochimaru at the same time appears absolutely fucking Godlike.
Everything Kishi does just makes everything worse. It answers absolutely no questions and creates 500 more.
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>>290055877
>The first and second Hokage were also so ludicrously upscaled that Hiruzen competing with both them and Orochimaru at the same time appears absolutely fucking Godlike.
I mean, Hiruzen was supposed to be the OG God of Shinobi until Kishi let his power scaling get out of control and decided Hashirama and Madara were untouchable demi-Gods that nobody else could compete with. The war deserves all the shit it gets.
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>>290053381
>That Gedo Statue
He shouldn't know it's name tho...
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>>290055877
>The first and second Hokage were also so ludicrously upscaled that Hiruzen competing with both them and Orochimaru at the same time appears absolutely fucking Godlike.
didn't Kishimoto handwave this by saying Oro's edo tensei was an imperfect form?
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Kishi should have just dialed down the powerscale. Instead of Konoha being the strongest most important ninja nation in the world and all the others have a total of 4 named ninja each who do things, just make the conflicts Konoha only. Let the other nations have their own problems, that don't have to revolve around fucking Danzo or Obito.
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>>290053444
Kurama addressing Kakashi by his name feels wrong. Sure he found respect for Naruto, but did he already turn 100% good to address other people by their name?
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>>290056356
that's really homosexual and retarded (i am sorry if that's redundant). i am very glad that you don't write manga, because it would SUCK ASSHOLE. somehow even Kishimoto is better than you.
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>>290056369
Kurama's been fully tamed already. He went from an uncontrollable ball of pure hatred that no one could ever dream of negotiating with to Naruto's sidekick over the past like 30 chapters.
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>>290056390
>everything revolving around Konoha is good le actually
There is not a single conflict in Naruto that would not be better at a slightly lower scale. Otherwise you get garbage like the awful war arc.
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>>290056313
>didn't Kishimoto handwave this by saying Oro's edo tensei was an imperfect form?
Yeah, even though all the Anbu watching it were treating the fight as some unsurmountable battle that none of them could ever hope to match up to. It's pretty laughable compared to part 2 battles, heck, even the SRA had more impressive battles.
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>>290056369
what would you have him say? white haired weirdo? konoha shinobi? you over there?
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>>290056356
On a side note it really has been funny to see every single bad thing that has ever happened in the history of Konoha, and even some things outside of Konoha, be linked directly and solely back to Danzo. Everyone gets redeemed except him, the absolute ontological evil of the planet. And even he gets a moment where he doesn't seem all that bad since everything he did was based on his friendship/rivalry with Hiruzen.
Probably did that just so Sasuke murdering him doesn't seem that bad, and Kishi couldn't even let Sasuke finish him off with his own hands. Had to let him blow himself up or something.
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>>290056476
Maybe just Hatake?
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>>290056369
>>290056476
White fang brat, or something similar.
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>>290056356
Kishi wasn't skilled enough to incorporate the other villages. It just made the world feel smaller because of the reason you stated. The Naruto world had a lot of room for political conflicts between the nations and could have expanded more into an actual world war, but no way Kishi is pulling that off.
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>>290056476
Maybe copy ninja? It's pretty common to address shinobi with their title if you aren't that familiar with them.
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Bee had no right to survive this arc. Sure, find some way to keep Naruto alive since he's the mc, but Bee should have absolutely been killed for the Gedo statue to raise the stakes of the war. Goddamn Kishi is a hack.
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>>290056722
That would improve literally nothing (and not make anything worse either).
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>>290056771
It would make things feel grittier. Bee just became friends with Naruto, and the whole point of the war was to protect them both.
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>>290053538
Why is Naruto so obsessed the unmasking him other than "plot"? Sure he triggered him with his "no one"-speech, but other than that he should have no urge in unmasking him. Especially since keeping your identity a secret is very shinobi-like behavior. You know who else acts anonymous? The freaking Anbu for example.
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>>290056824
Plenty more people should have actually died. Actually killing off one of the Kage would have been nice, like Onoki. The war doesn't feel like it ever had any real stakes. When you make the main enemies a bunch of faceless zombie plants and actual zombies, it doesn't give the MC any actual confrontation. It would have been better if Obito was still manipulating the mist and made an alliance with one of the other villages to have a war with actual people. Make Naruto confront having to kill actual people. Alas, Kishi is a shit writer. I don't think he ever put any actual thought in anything after Itachi v Sasuke and Pain v Naruto.
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>>290056933
Imagine if it wasn't Obito and just some random mook that none of the characters knew.
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I think all Kage should have died against Madara.
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>>290057004
>all the kage
>Bee
>everyone that was involved in the SRA
>Hinata or Sakura or both
>Kakashi
>Guy
Now you make Naruto actually face his stupid hatred/revenge nonsense instead of just having Neji die to ask Naruto to fuck his cousin, and obviously Ino becomes endgame.
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>>290053335
>yaa, gomen gomen
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>>290056650
>The 9 Jinchuriki are evenly distributed to balance world powers
>7/9 of the biju are removed
>2 of them directly from sitting Kage
>they assume bee is gone too so they're operating as if it's 8/9
>no one cares or does anything
>it doesn't destabilize world powers at all
>no other countries use this as an opportunity for aggression against other nations
>every single nation in Naruto's lifetime is peaceful and nice and none of the Jinchuriki are ever weaponized in his time
>the Shinobi world is so rife with war that any time of relative piece is on a razor thin edge that can be severed by the slightest altercation
>every single conflict between nations happens before he is born or when he's too young to be a part of it
Well, isn't that convenient.
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>>290053335
wasnt this show about ninjas or something?
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>>290057094
>Now you make Naruto actually face his stupid hatred/revenge nonsense
He already did that with Pain. Pain who, at the time of Naruto forgiving him and letting him go scott free because he's ninja Jesus that can forgive anyone for anything, had killed Kakashi, Shizune, Jiraiya, the elder frog trainer whatever his name was, killed countless Konoha citizens and Shinobi, and completely destroyed the village. Though of course it never mattered because Nagato just said "lol nevermind" and undid all the damage he'd done and fucking killed himself.
Naruto will forgive anyone for anything and everything.
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>>290057176
It stopped being about ninja when the promotional exam was a series of 1v1 battles.
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>>290053569
Bocchi?
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>>290053381
>>290053335
why did obito need nine tails when he summoned gedo no problem
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>>290056984
I am Tobi Uchiha... Madara's cousin!
>huh?
*Hashirama zombie appears*
Tobi... I... think I remember seeing him at a party once... maybe...
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>>290057195
Guess Kishi should have made Sasuke go full schizo and had him kill off some classmates so Naruto actually has to confront his boyfriend doing something irredeemable. He'd probably just Romeo and Juliet it at that point though.
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>>290053514
>Bee just dreams of fondling some big old tits
Bases
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Remember when Tobito had the 9-Tails in his full possession and could have just fucked off 16 years ago, but instead decided to pointlessly attack Konoha? Would have been silly if this same guy, who went head to head with Minato when he was a teenager, let an infant jinchurki grow for the next 16 years instead of abducting him when the whole village hated him and wouldn't have even cared. What a mad lad.
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>>290053514
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>>290053770
Plot convenience.
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>>290056984
If we consider them bombing the headquarter and impaling Neiji to be Obito's idea, then Madara hasn't killed a single named character... Which is kinda lame.
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>>290057364
I never gave this chick a second thought but this daily has actually made me dislike her because of the forced waifuism.
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>>290057305
Kishi always wanted to keep Sasuke pure even though one of the central themes is ending the cycle of hatred and revenge, so Sasuke killing someone important, having to live with it, regretting what he did, seeking forgiveness, and having every other character come to terms with it and forgive him would actually make sense to the theme of the manga. Instead we got Sauke killing either no name people or people who were so absolutely evil no one would ever get revenge for them, like Danzo who no one gave a shit about apparently, and only attempt to kill others. So for all that we get the famous
>Yeah...sorry.
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>>290057364
>Bee's dream was fulfilled thanks to his fellow jinchuriki getting murdered
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>nuuu I don't like her!!
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>>290057378
Madara was the OG Sasuke afterall, he's incapable of killing anyone important or significant.
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>>290057359
>alright got the 9 Tails, what now...
>hm, use it to get my eye back from Kekashi??? no...
>just leave and seal it away??? no...
>blow up Konoha for no good reason??? yeah haha lmao that sounds fun

*THREE DAYS LATER*

>damn can't believe I lost the 9 Tails. silly me. Minato IS dead, though! what to do now...
>NOW go get my eye back??? no...
>abduct the infant with 9 Tails in it??? no...
>hey, what if I make mist kids kill each other for no reason lmao
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>>290057432
Nooo, if you're gonna post more pictures of her I'm gonna be soo angry and you DEFINITELY don't want that!!
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>>290057432
She has like, what, 4 panels before being killed? She's a complete non-character. Even the Ramen chick is more interesting.
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>>290057484
She has a lot more than 4... Do you require proof?
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>>290056356
You don't understand how hard it is to execute all that. You have to be Tolkien level to accomplish this.
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>>290057606
yeah so just don't bother, I'd rather eat a boiled egg than a steak if the steak is made of cardboard
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>>290057606
You know now I'm really wondering what the fuck Naruto and Jiraiya were actually doing over their 2 years of travel/training. Naruto doesn't seem like he's familiar at all with the rest of the Shinobi world. He didn't meet any other Jinchuriki, he didn't meet any Kage, he didn't meet any remarkable Shinobi of other countries, he didn't seem to do anything except lie around in different hotel rooms with Jiraiya, make a bigger rasengan, and barely be able to control 3/9 tails. It's one of the most worthless time skips I've ever seen and was just an excuse for Kishi to age up the cast a bit.
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>>290057707
Sakura and Sasuke got buffed at least. Too bad Kishi saw Sakura was becoming an actual character and had to reel her in to being useless and Sasuke's cocksleeve again.
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>>290057831
>Sakura actually took down an Akatsuki member, albeit with Chiyo helping
>from that point on in the manga does absolutely nothing remarkable ever again
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>>290057891
I remember when people thought she'd learn Wood release. Wasted character, but I guess she is a woman.
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>>290055877
To be fair if Six Paths and non-Kurama Jinchuriki weren't nerfed into oblivion they would've actually been an actual threat, given that just a sickly Nagato nuked the Leaf with no problem
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>>290057925
Sage Mode is another massive wasted opportunity. Why didn't Sasuke master that during his training with Orochimaru? Why wasn't Tsunade the Slug Sage? She could have passed that down to Sakura and given her a well needed buff. I know the answer is simply "Kishi hadn't thought of it yet", which explains why half the discussion of the manga is "Why didn't X do Y?"
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>>290058028
>Why didn't Sasuke master that during his training with Orochimaru?
Guess having the discount curse mark made them think it wasn't worth the trouble. Kishi always treated the Byakugou Seal as the sage mode equivalent, since Sakura does get a "buff" once she achieves it, but it would have been nice if all the students of the prodigal 3 achieved their own Sage Modes and surpassed their teachers.
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>>290058104
>prodigal 3 are frog, slug, and snake based
>jiraiya couldn't master sage Mode, Naruto mastered it completely in like 3 days
>Orochimaru had a half assed version, Kabuto mastered it, Sasuke never even touched it and Orochimaru never even bothered to teach him it despite Sasuke's sole goal being to get strong enough to kill Itachi
>Tsunade never even touched sage Mode at all, Sakura ended up a Temu version of Tsunade, who was already useless
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>>290053335
>that first panel
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>>290057891
>>290057925
>that time Sakura asked Yamato to teach her to control Naruto's Jinchurki crash outs
>that time we see Hashirama's sage mode and people think the Haruno crest has some connection to it
I don't know if Kishi was just baiting or if he ever seriously flirted with the idea of having Sakura learn wood release.
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>>290053420
Weren't the two Kumo jobbers in that gourd too?
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>>290058285
He flirted with it, but somewhere along the line in Shippuden just went "fuck it, the manga is about Naruto and Sasuke and no one else". Probably for the fujos, I don't know.
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>>290058317
I think that's a different gourd.
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>>290053413
>>290053420
>>290053435
>>290053444
Kurama temporarily taking control of Naruto in this way reminds me of something you'd see in fanfiction.
It's kind of cool though I can't lie.
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>>290058317
They were sealed in different items. The younger one was sealed in the one that curses you for saying your most used word, the other got sealed because Ino mind transferred and responded to being called. Very stupid weapons with the latter being very broken.
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>>290058317
Yeah, they are both in the gourd, and they don't get out until the second-to-last chapter. It's very odd that Gedou Mazou was instantly able to use the chakra of Kin/Gin despite them being sealed in the containers and not getting released.
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>>290058430
anon is talking about Samui and Atsui, not Kin/Gin. they are all jobbers tho lel
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>>290053420
couldn't they just have reanimated the previous jinchuricki to fully res the gedo? tobi is so dumb
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>>290058717
Stop noticing Kishi's shitty writing
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>>290053514
bee is so based
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>>290053503
>>290053514
Naruto's response to Tobi falls flat imo, especially because Kishi clearly intended it to be an epic moment. It just feels like hollow platitudes bringing up his parents, sensei and being hokage.
He should have said saying something like how he will become hokage of the real world, not a fake one.
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>>290058717
The jinchuuriki probably didn't keep enough bijuu chakra with them when they died.
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Remember when Madara left Konoha to go pursue his Moon Eye plan and had all the means to collect all the bijuu himself but decided he wanted a pointless death battle with Hashirama instead? These Uchiha sure are silly.
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>>290058846
>the host of actual bijuu don't have enough of their chakra
>the fake jinchurki that ate some nine-tails meat do
We already know Kishi's writing is shitty, no need to try and defend it
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>>290056933
Nardo is trying to gather info so he can cast talk no jutsu.
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>>290053787
Poor Kakashi. It's not his fault that he's a chick magnet that stole Obito's crush without literally not even trying
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>>290058922
Rin was so mid too. Definitely not worth all the trouble Obito is going through.
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>>290056722
A lot of the characters should have been dying ever since Sasuke Retrieval arc. Looking at you, Choji.
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>>290059091
It's funny how everyone on the SRA, minus Naruto and Shikamaru, could have died and nothing changes in the story.
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>>290053930
he married anko, meanwhile all those villains never saw a pussy in their life.
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>>290059091
>a massive, global scale war that has engulfed the combined forces of the entire Shinobi world
>tens of thousands of casualties and climbing every single second
>neji, shikamaru/inos dad, and the raikage's secretary die
Jesus Christ, what a pathetic excuse of a war. Kishi is such a fucking coward.
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>>290059198
Mabui was a great loss...
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>>290059198
Uh, did you forget that THE Coolest guy also lost his life?
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>>290053679
nine tails the explainer
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>>290059034
>Rin was so mid too.
Take that back.
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>>290053579
Everything is filler after Itachi dies.
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>>290053803
>yo, boobies!
this is based and retarded at the same time
>>290053843
thanks op.
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>>290053793
That's what I thought too.
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>>290053908
>It turns out it was an infinite version of Itachi's stabbing.
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>>290059357
You're right, I was being generous. Rin is probably the least attractive girl in the series.
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>>290059485
>Jiiiiii~~
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>>290059563
I honestly can't think of any girls in the cast who don't mog her.
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>>290059563
I honestly can't think of any girl in the cast who can mog her.
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>>290059640
Dats cus ur ghey
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>>290059657
no u
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>>290059563
Obito destroyed the world for THIS?
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>>290059744
Can you blame him? The current world is one which allowed that pure, innocent, beautiful, cute, amazing angel to die.
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>>290059800
>pure
Captured raped and tortured
>innocent
0 ninja are "innocent" except the Messiah Naruto
>beautiful
Nah
>cute
Nope
>amazing angel
Proceeds to confess her love over your still-warm corpse to your best bro and rival
>to die.
Only good thing she did
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>>290059640
Any other than Karin.
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>>290059855
I put her and Karin in the same league. All of Karin's bite marks is an instant no though
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>>290059800
>beautiful, cute
100%
>pure, innocent
now you're tripping, she's kinda psychotic
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>>290059640
pink >
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>>290059940
short hair is such a downgrade...
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>>290057396
Yeah, same. I didn't care for her before because she has the blandest design of all the jinchuriki, but now I kind of hate her because of these threads.
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>>290057707
Naruto getting Jiraiya's imperfect sage mode after the timeskip would have been so fitting and solved so many things. It wouldn't have made his time with Jiraiya during the timeskip worthless, it would have made him competent during early Shippuden instead of having him be so weak compared to everyone else, and it would've helped build up his full sage mode during the Pain arc because it'd be something he spent years trying to perfect instead of a few days.
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>>290059563
Are the purple things on her face supposed to mean something? Are they paint or stickers?
I know Kiba's red marks are from some ghibli character, are Rin's based on something in particular?
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>>290059994
That's unfortunate.
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>>290059940
>flattest fuck become the disciple to most famous titcow
If Sakura got a late growth spurt in the timeskip she could have contend for top tier, but alas.
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>>290060091
Sage mode wasn't a concept after the timeskip. Kishi didn't think of it until later.
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>>290053484
>>290053475
Mind you, all this is in response to Rin being killed.
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>>290060647
Nuh uh. Obito copes and swears he isn't doing this all because of rin he is
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>>290059744
He gets to bang her in ninja heaven now, where she never gets old. Honestly I'd do the same.
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How was Obito going to force Nagato to resurrect Madara when Pain had his own agenda? What was the point in delaying Madara's resurrection if the two had the same retarded plan? Why did Obito act like he didn't like Madara even though they had the same endgoal? Everything in the war is just so stupid
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>>290060792
Then why didn't he just kill himself instead of wallowing like an incel for 90% of his life?
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>>290060792
>Honestly I'd do the same.
Nothing is stopping you anon. The rope beckons.
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>>290060833
Because he's a retard like everyone else in these series.
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>>290060833
Because then you go to ninja purgatory like Kakashi's dad
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Imagine if Kabuto resurrected Rin in front of Obito and she tells him he's retarded for doing all this and she always loved Kakashi. Wouldn't that be awkward.
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>>290054306
how did Madara even know/invent such a jutsu and yet Danzo etc did not?

another asspull, me figures
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When does the war really go off the rails? For me, it's as soon as Naruto joins with his super saiyan mode. Everything immediately loses all tension.
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>>290054843
how did Zetsu not know the ET jutsu beforehand?
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>>290055520
speaking of, Labito could have forced Edo Madara to tell him the full story, figure out the heart seal and then directly control Obito

and wait, why didnt Rinnegan absorb the heart seal?
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>>290060485
Part of me wonders how good Naruto would be if Kishi could travel back in time and rewrite it knowing everything he knew about the manga he made up along the way.
Then I remember he's just fucking awful at writing and would just find new ways to fuck everything up even worse and invent more shit in the 11th hour.
I've read a lot of shit manga, but Naruto irks me in particular because of just how much of it was wasted potential. It could have been so much more.
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>>290053381
isn't kakashi getting mixed here? he's saying what he should be thinking and thinking what he should be saying
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>>290053420
I remember being surprised in the anime when Kinkaku and Ginkaku were plot relevant.
I thought they were filler at first.
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>>290053463
it's hilarious how all the tailed beasts combined aren't even 50% of kurama. had dumbass akatsuki started with naruto, the whole thing was over, but i guess they had to go in order or whatever
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>>290061234
Zetsu doesn't know any ninjutsu
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>>290061508
Obito could have abducted Naruto at any point after the attack on the village. There's literally no excuse why he just let him live other than Kishi obviously not knowing Naruto's backstory until later.
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>>290061351
>Part of me wonders how good Naruto would be if Kishi could travel back in time and rewrite it knowing everything he knew about the manga he made up along the way.
He'd probably rewrite part 1 to remove all of the side characters and all the time spent on them (except for Shikamaru ofc), and then just give the Uchiha 500% more wank.
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>>290057359
>>290061634
This all makes Minato look retarded as well
>let me sacrifice myself so my son can grow up with no parents and have 0 protection against that masked man who just tried to steal the 9-tails
>I'll just ignore how i marked him with my seal and have him dead to rights any time i want and can kill him while he's on the shitter
>I'll trust he'll let Naruto grow up normally and not try to steal the 9-tails again until Naruto is a fully capable jinchurki
Everything just gets worse the more you think about it
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>>290059984
what is the benefit to long hair?
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>>290061714
It looks better.
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>>290061714
Something to pull and hold onto
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>>290061231
Obito w/ 6 jins, when Kabito is supposed to have been his power rival. it becomes DBZ from then on, unhinged.

previously, you still had some ninja-esque fights and resistance from the enemy
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>>290061706
Danzo etc would protect the boy from such things
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Honestly, for how usually lame it is, Kishi should have made Tobi a full blown schizo with multiple personalities due to his pstd after Rin's death
heck, you could even put the blame on Madara brainwashing him with one of his MS abilities since they were never told, and forcing him to wear a mask
you could have had a kino moment when Naruto breaks his mask and he sees his own reflection and goes back to being his real self
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>>290061980
Should have just been what Yamato becomes later and have Zetsu's outter shell have control of his body. Then the whole "nobody" speech actually makes sense.
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>>290053335
The stakes have never been higher!
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>>290062221
Why are the steaks getting high?
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>>290061568
why not?

he may not perform jutsu, but pure knowledge is his forte
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>>290053420
>can seal away anything and everything
That sounds incredibly useful.
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>>290062571
It is. The amber sealing pot is practically an instant win weapon.
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>>290053538
That rasengan would have EVAPORATED Tsunade
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>>290062571
4 u
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>>290060647
>>290060742
People are still too dumb to understand what Obito means. 4cuck millennillols are truly something else.
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>>290062769
Here's the (You) you're so thirsty for
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Was there any actual point to Obito putting on the Tobi and Madara personas? I feel like you could remove them both completely and no one would care that all along he was actually some literal who Uchiha kid that was believed to have died in a war, except for Kakashi I guess.
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https://m.youtube.com/shorts/1cnU12fiK0M
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this shitty arc could have made more sense if tobi was actually danzo who was actually madara.
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>>290062908
>Was there any actual point to Obito putting on the Tobi and Madara personas
Kishi was trying to milk the mystery and got upset readers immediately assumed Obito was the masked man. I fell into the camp of "it's too obvious to be Obito" so guess Kishi fooled me.
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>>290062908
The mask looks cool
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>>290062793
I'm just laughing at how retarded people in these threads are that they don't understand basic themes and storytelling. Naruto is not terribly subtle and you still don't get it.
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>>290063387
Kakashi did it first. Obito has no originality
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>>290063638
>vague posting
Go ahead, enlighten us, I'm sure it's the same stupid cope that's been btfo'd plenty of times.
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>>290062769
We know what he meant, we are merely making fun of how unbelievable Obito's claim is.
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>>290062908
Kishimoto was making bank on theoryfags, too bad he ended the manga a little too early to cash out on the golden age of theoryfagging.
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>>290063638
Guess you really were just baiting. Sad.
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>>290055582
>>290055736
What's so good about it?
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Naruto, Obito isn't going to fuck you, stop defending him.
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>>290064223
>Naruto, Obito isn't going to fuck you

he would if he pretended to be Rin for him
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comfy thread
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>>290064707
You're genuinely pathetic.
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>all it took to set him off was calling a thread comfy
lmao
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>>290064931
>doubling down
This all you have going on in your life? Poor thing.
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>>290065272
>screenshotting your own post
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>>290065016
>>290065587
>>290065713
Why do you reply to yourself? Do you really think it's not obvious?
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>>290065735
Only 1 (You) on my screen, pedo.
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>>290065735
>necro-bumping after being called out
Tsk tsk. Why are you so obvious?
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>>290053451
Here's your demon fox, bro.
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Sigh
Thread was good while it lasted
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>>290065775
>>290065804
I promise you both, his melty is going to be delicious. Look forward to it...and then hide yo kids.
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>>290065852
What was good about it?
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>>290053503
Why doesn't Kekashi try to kamui the statue's head before it transforms? The others could distract Tobi while he tries.
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>>290065866
the ''discussion''
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>>290065911
Nothing new that hasn't been discussed 1000s of times already
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>>290065909
He tries later. And Tobi undoes it. He has powers.
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>>290059934
>she's kinda psychotic
How?
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>>290053793
>Why not just kill all of humanity at this point instead of forcing everyone into a dream?
Because he's trying to help? Or at least he believes he is, on some level. Madara DEFINITELY believes he's doing something good, too. Just because they're fine killing people to get to that end doesn't mean their plan isn't to share it with the masses
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>>290058839
Yeah it's pretty weak, I guess the angle is "well here's MY dream" which is okay but still, clunky dialogue. At least the art is good on >>290053514
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>>290053621
Actually the Uchiha fan repels all attacks apparently so the Rasengan just blew up in his face. But yeah he was slower than that massively FTL++ fan
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>>290064216
It has some pretty solid choreography actually.
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>>290067250
>By utilising the Gunbai Uchiwa to block an incoming attack, the user nullifies the effects of the attack by converting the incoming chakra into Wind nature transformation, which is then reflected. As this reflection of an attack occurs both suddenly and unexpectedly, the reflected attack can prove difficult for opponents to evade.

It's not clear what the limit of this is; it was able to absorb and reflect a Rasengan and even a mini bijuu bomb into wind.
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I think 95% of Madara's dialogue so far has been
>YOU GUYS ARE SO PATHETIC AND WEAK, ONLY HASHIRAMA WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO FIGHT ME, YOU CAN'T BEAT ME UNLESS YOU'RE HASHIRAMA
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>>290067226
>Or at least he believes he is,
Then he's delusional and retarded.
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>>290053294
Sakura is a cunt, that is all
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>>290067182
nta but she just kind of gives off that vibe
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>>290065735
He always drops every pretence to babble about his sworn enemies at random and keeps proving most of the posts are just him roleplaying with himself.
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>>290053381
>>290053397
Bee legitimately got millions of people killed here.
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>>290067346
I would have liked him more if he didn't have that stupid dream plan.
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>>290068131
That's why he's our hero.
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>>290067489
I mean I don't really care about the drama between you two but the samefagging is actually quite pathetic and sad. The guy has zero self awareness of what he comes off as
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>>290060795
>How was Obito going to force Nagato to resurrect Madara when Pain had his own agenda?
He wasn't. Obito was planning on becoming the Ten Tails Jinchuriki and starting the Infinite Tsukuyomi by himself while leaving Madara dead.
>What was the point in delaying Madara's resurrection if the two had the same retarded plan?
See above.
>Why did Obito act like he didn't like Madara even though they had the same endgoal?
He never trusted the guy. Probably didn't help that Madara put a seal on him too.
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>>290067360
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>>290053420
If nothing can get out, how can they be used to revive the Tentails?
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>>290070630
>boob bumping
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>>290068866
>he says as he samefags
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>>290053621
>power scaling makes no sense
No shit. Really? You really think so?
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>>290070862
I kinda think so, yeah
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>>290070888
And you arrived at that realisation just now?
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>>290070971
No, I've had a sneaking suspicion for some time
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>>290070862
Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed
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>>290067346
I did love Madara's Japanese voice, dunno who did it but I know it fits him perfectly.
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>>290063680
>btfo'd plenty of times
Kek. Only in your fever dreams, perhaps.
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>290071474
What a pitiful person
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this thread? comfy!
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>>290065775
>>290065804
>>290065856
And yet again you are talking to yourself. You claim that OP is pathetic but your behaviour is beyond sad. Even a new lurker like me can notice it.
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>>290071699
>replying to comments from 9 hours ago
Obsessed
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>>290071699
>new lurker
>up to date on the schizo drama
>OP out of nowhere
Woe is me, this noticing is almost too much to handle. Why are you trying to drama up the thread again? It's pretty pathetic, I must say.
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>>290071814
I've also nooticed OP is usually up around this time and has posted at these times before. He ain't subtle. I would say he probably does it intentionally but i think he's just stupid.
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>He's falseflagging on both sides again
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>>290072338
yup, he really hates these comfy threads for some reason
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Peak comfy thread
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>>290067356
Not that delusional, this is just bog standard "escapism vs reality". This happens all the time in Japanese fiction.
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C O M F Y
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i don't care about capeship, should i watch spiderman just to see naruto poster or that's too much autism?
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>>290074508
>should i watch spiderman just to see naruto poster
What
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Don't watch it. It's 2 hours you will never get back for a bad movie.
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>>290074568
>implying anyone in these threads has time that's valuable
Lol. Good one.
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>>290058427
It should have happened more often. Whenever Naruto lost his control. We know Kurama isn't a mindless beast.
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So comfy
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If you have to say the thread is comfy, is it genuinely comfy?
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Man, this thread really gives me /nart/ vibes with how comfy it is.
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watch everyone reconcile by the chapter 700 lol
manga is about forgiveness and that revenge is bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbIhYhrOJAg
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>>290075346
The ESL is strong in this one
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i'm a saint, basically an angel for giving him attention. after the ending it's over
that's why he's acting out.
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>he says into the comfy void
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>>290075883
That's very kind of you. I do worry what OP will do after this daily ends. At least some people are thinking of his well-being.
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i love you.
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Uh, OP? Where's the new chapter?
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>>290076575
Schizo
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This daily really just can't get a reliable consistent OP. Shame.
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Guys?
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>>290076839
>>290053294
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>>290076839
>>290076886
Whoops
>>290076790
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>>290059994
>>290057396
I like her more now.
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Thread's still pretty comfy
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>>290078554
Yes.
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>still on the 'log
comfy!



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