why does Oshii insist on making the characters as ugly as possible?
even the VLAD LOVE designs, which are more "anime-like", are mostly trash

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u called?

>>290309880
true OP.

They gave Batou blue hair in the new anime and made her stupid and goofy for some reason.

Major had so much more respect towards Batou in the movie, he gave her his coat when she was naked like a real gentleman. I don't see Major doing that in the new anime, he's just an idiot.

>>290309880
>mpvtranny prefers the version where Major looks like a man
yup, makes sense
>>290309915
the reddit spacing makes this bait too obvious

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>>290309880
Want me to repost my 2^3chan posts at you?

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>>290309923
>looks like a man
Anon, I a curious to know what kind of men are in your life.

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>>290309901
Have you ever seen him draw people?

His default approach to drawing faces is a blob with a big nose and small beady eyes. Then he tries to refine it.

Okay no real talk: the reasoning behind Motoko's design here is that she's supposed to have the same face as the Puppetmaster, who is angel/bird-themed. Therefore he needed her to have a straight pointy nose and eagle eyes. The eyebrows are taken from the manga puppetmaster. And angels are androgynous so he gave the puppetmaster androgynous features, which means Motoko also needed to have those.
That is not to say Motoko herself is bird-themed but it's meant to explain why she thinks of the Puppetmaster as her fwend for no good reason.

>>290309964
>Major merging with puppet master being explicit and actually meaningful
>explicit and actually meaningful
>explicit
>and actually meaningful

WOAAAAAAH BUDDY

>>290310041
Yes Oshii movie says more in 5 minutes than GITS 2026 does in an entire episode
Not to mention the direction and sheer animation quality is so much stronger

>>290310078
alright then, what does it say?

I know you didn't write those retarded posts I just wanna have fun there. Creative writing exercise

>>290309880
>>290309976
The ugliest major, couldn't be assed to make her look at least a little appealing?

>>290310108
'fraid not
see
>>290309980

>>290310093
>I know you didn't write those retarded posts
I'm afraid I did

And you know what it says since you're a man of culture who's read the manga and seen the movie and mostly glanced over the goyslop science saru adaptation

>>290310433
Of course, I just wanna see what you come up with.

The new adaptation is great by the way.

>>290309980
>the reasoning behind Motoko's design here is that she's supposed to have the same face as the Puppetmaster, who is angel/bird-themed. Therefore he needed her to have a straight pointy nose and eagle eyes.
Source for this

>>290310462
you can plainly see that they have the same face and that the puppetmaster looks like an angel with eagle eyes.

In Oshii's filmic language, angel is a codeword for bird:

>The image of a bird is not a metaphor for an angel. Quite the opposite. The angelic image has to do with the way we look at birds. It is similar to the case of fish. They live in a different environment than we do. We don't know what they are thinking.

>>290310506
Yeah I know he's on record for the whole angel/bird stuff but it looks like you pulled the whole "Motoko has a pointy nose for bird reasons" out your ass

>>290310578
yeah the pointy nose I kinda did, it's also probably an attempt to make her look like a Kawajiri character. But if you wanna make a girl look birdlike are you gonna give her a straight pointy nose or are you gonna give her a tiny cute little button nose like in the manga?

I man I guess you could give her a bigass hooked nose too to REALLY hammer home the beak idea, but that's not really an option is it?

>>290310449
>The new adaptation is great by the way.
No it isn't
I'd love to discuss Tarkovsky movies with you by the way since Oshii lived long enough to become the villain and is quite frankly passe

>>290310671
It is great, as a matter of fact. The flaws are so minimal and inconsequential I can hardly believe it exists at all. In some small ways it even improves over the manga.
Aside from the intro of episode 3 which is total shit.

My interest in Tarkovsky is 95% determined by my interest in Oshii so I'm afraid I won't be able to offer much commentary you aren't already aware of when it comes to his stuff.
But I'm eager to take recs from you so long as they help me understand Oshii.

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>>290310723
>But I'm eager to take recs from you so long as they help me understand Oshii.
Well obviosuly watch The Mirror to understand both men japanese manlet and russian manlet alike
But as a personal rec Andrei Rublev cannot be beat and also Stalker will help you understand what the fuck he meant by "sculpting in time"

>>290310761
oh yeah the Mirror sounds like a good one, thanks.

When it comes to Andrei Rublev I think it's super fucking valuable when it comes to character arcs and moral lessons. Monks being too prideful to deal with the world around them until reality bites them in the ass, that sounds like a few films Oshii's done.

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yoooo, gordon ramsay got an anime adaptation?? Fr?? Whos the hoe on the right doe?

>>290310967
Leila Marcus of course

>>290309976
my tits look like that

>>290309880
Her bird nose is cute

>>290311092
can you boop it though?

>>290309976
Looks like me after a few beers

>>290311042
london?

>>290309880
IDK about that but they are the absolute best versions for sure. It is a well documented fact that Shirow´s GITS is Appleseed tier at best and that GITS is only relevant and considered great because of Oshii.

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>>290309880
you're a fucking retard
you can like that version more if you want, but the "real" one is the manga, and based on that the current anime is the closest one to that version.
Or what, is admitting you like something more that isn't "real" too much to handle for you?

>>290309901
Shit taste.

>>290313622
both are very unwise characters, but the left-hand one lives in a world that agrees with her. So I'll listen to her.

>>290313622
I like this adaptation, but I still want to fuck fridge Motoko

>>290315073
they're bi, so you can probably have them sandwich ya dick between their cooches. I know I'd let them

>>290309880
I like both Oshii and ''new'' Major.
What does that make me?

>>290313622
To answer the question posed. YES.

>>290309880
Oshii fucking sucks. I’m glad the new GitS adaption is fixing his mistakes.

>>290310967
I hear he makes a good cyborg beef wellington.

>>290317614
Hold your tongue weeb if it wasn't for Oshii this piece of shit technobabble manga wouldn't be a multi million dollar franchise

Shirow owes his entire career to Oshii and then some

>>290317567
everyone likes both, only shitposters are pretending to dislike either

>>290309880
>first FMA now this same shit with GitS
You pretentious faggots are the worst. Kill yourselves already.

>>290318604
>weeb
Proof more this shit is normalfag cancer.

>>290318682
I dunno, I see people vehemently disliking the new one and they aren't just ''shitposters'' either.

>>290309880
The real BORING Major and Batou

>>290320307
i'm sure you do on twitter, but these aren't people

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>>290309901
Better use of Hiroyuki Okiura's talents for semi-realistic character design.

Real GiTS has never been tried before

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>>290309901
Banba is cute though

>>290320064
>Up to a certain extent. She never fully commits.
She fully committed to fighting the tank and was seconds from getting pasted when Batou showed up. She was also prepared to dive the PM without Batou's (ultimately ineffective) backup.

>they're all smiling at some point though, even before understanding anything about their condition, and have a fascination with angels.
They smile at appropriate moments, I don't think that is particularly significant. It's just that a lot of the cast are fairly stone-faced professionals. In any case the Puppetmaster himself likes to smile, so it's not a useful indicator distinguishing his possession from memory manipulation.

The angel lines are a bit more interesting, it's something Oshii added, so there could be some intentionality. Only the trash guy mentions angels. He does it two times, both to describe the smile of the "daughter" created by the PM. Motoko and/or Puppetier see an angel right before they conceive a daughter (who like the PM tends to smile).

>Possibly, but that doesn't bode well for the implicit consent theory either if what we're seeing is the puppetmaster's satisfaction and not hers.
I don't think it really matters, that's not even the last shot of them. They probably both enter Motoko's body at some point though.

>>290323652
>She fully committed to fighting the tank and was seconds from getting pasted when Batou showed up
Doesn't quite mean she was willing to die in the process, though. What it means is that she overestimated her strength. After all, it's not like dying at this point in the film would help her achieve anything.
So, while it proves she's reckless, it doesn't prove she's willing to die.

>They smile at appropriate moments, I don't think that is particularly significant.
I'm bringing up the smile in combination with the buggy eyes specifically as a sign of neurological tampering. But I'll rewatch Corgi's scene again later to check if I didn't miss anything.

>The angel lines are a bit more interesting, it's something Oshii added, so there could be some intentionality. Only the trash guy mentions angels. He does it two times, both to describe the smile of the "daughter" created by the PM. Motoko and/or Puppetier see an angel right before they conceive a daughter (who like the PM tends to smile).
I think it's a pretty strong indicator of the rape thing personally, but I didn't want to bring extradiegetic Oshii knowledge into this, so I won't bang on it much further, but it does indicate that angels are probably fake, which bolsters the SimEx idea at the very least.

>>290323652
>I don't think it really matters, that's not even the last shot of them. They probably both enter Motoko's body at some point though.
Yeah honestly one way or the other, it's still a massive departure from the source material.

It's not even like the manga made her consent particularly assertive either, Oshii could have still spun her response as an ambiguous sub/dom thing like you said, instead he chose to remove it altogether.

So, to summarize, I think that's significant insofar as it reframes the whole theme of transcendance in a negative light.
Either it's real, but non-consensual in which case it's immoral
or it's consensual but fake, in which case it's nonsense
or it's both.
or it's both real and consensual, but I think that's the least likely option given the amount of changes Oshii introduced. And I'm only talking about changes that don't involve references to other films or stories.

>>290309976
This is actually really objectifying towards women. Great example of why these remakes are necessary.

>>290324353
everyone is an object in GitS
men, women, robots

what matters is the connexions between them. Are you an object of contempt, an object of love, an object of hatred, an object of desire, an object of resentment etc etc etc

I mean that's storytelling 101 really but in the original GitS (and in the original GitS ONLY) it's also a literal cosmic force

>>290324353
the girls in the new show have no nipples
they're like barbie dolls
that's extra objectifying
AND IT'S A GOOD THING

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>>290313622
https://youtu.be/QdmsfyaxvEE

>mfw yhvh puppet master can't deny me play my children's games

Take that XFA-36A Game, another experience for the shamidelphinus r103

>>290325753
OG puppet master is a good girl, she learnt how to manipulate geopolitics by playing vidya, she wouldn't deny them to you.

movie puppetmaster is (arguably, we're arguing about it) a bad guy, he would probably deny vidya to you...

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>>290324837
Sexual objectification is the only one that really matters, anon.

>>290325846
On many, many levels, actually, yes, practical, technological, moral, ontological, political, symbolic and emotional.

Motoko does all of that.

>>290324228
>So, while it proves she's reckless, it doesn't prove she's willing to die.
She bet everything on an action she could not withdraw from. That is "fully committing."

>I think it's a pretty strong indicator of the rape thing personally, but I didn't want to bring extradiegetic Oshii knowledge into this, so I won't bang on it much further, but it does indicate that angels are probably fake, which bolsters the SimEx idea at the very least.
The last-minute simex idea is retarded because there is no indication Mokoto is unwilling up to that point. There is no point in brainwashing her to consent when she has been consenting for the past five minutes.

The angel is associated with advancement to a higher level of being, which would be achieved by the PM's offspring. I think the PM was inflicting his baby fantasies on the trash guy.

>>290324280
The merger is clearly real and consensual. There is no evidence of rape, and you see their offspring which has traits from both parents. The most significant difference in this version is the centrality of Mokoto's internal motivations, which are more of a sideshow in the manga.

>>290325970
>She bet everything on an action she could not withdraw from. That is "fully committing."
Not if she was confident in her chances to succeed. Then it's just a mistake on her part.

>when she has been consenting for the past five minutes.
We went over this. Asking question after question in a scared voice and expressing doubts is not consent. At best it's resignation.

I could buy resignation, but it's not the same as consent.

>I think the PM was inflicting his baby fantasies on the trash guy.
And on Corgi who was looking up at the sky
so why not on Motoko too?

>The merger is clearly real and consensual.
the absence of an unambiguous expression of consent makes it, at the very least, UNCLEARLY consensual,
And the presence of indicators of artificiality (scanlines, angels in previous SimExes) suggest it's fake.

>>290325966
Damn, she's really just that talented.

>>290320409
Togusa dresses like he watched one too many reruns of City Hunter as a kid.

>>290326702
that plus the miami vice haircut

>>290325970

by the way I suggest we confine the rape/consent talks to this thread so as not to get in the way of other GitS threads

this started as a shitpost thread anyway so no big loss

i'll rewatch some material tomorrow night, so don't worry if I take some time, I'd like us to come to an agreement or at the very least define some unreconciliable points of disagreement.

For example I feel like your definition of consent is quite loose compared to mine, which is based on what the manga showed us (which isn't even a particularly strong form of consent) so if we can't budge on that it'd be good to at least make it official.

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>>290326154
>We went over this. Asking question after question in a scared voice and expressing doubts is not consent. At best it's resignation.
She initiated contact to learn about him, of course she is asking questions. After initially giving consent through penetrating him, her questions show she is conscious and still capable of revoking consent, but is engaging rather than rejecting him.

The presence of fear is not itself a sign of rape, and should be expected in her circumstances. She even says explicitly that she feels fear alongside hope when sea diving, the activity she uses to simulate transformation.

>And on Corgi who was looking up at the sky
So... not an angel. Motoko was just shooting at him from the roof too. What would even be the point of an angel vision?

>And the presence of indicators of artificiality (scanlines, angels in previous SimExes) suggest it's fake.
I'm actually not sure I understand what you mean by fake merger. If the PM's "genes" were not really passed on, then he let himself die for nothing.

There were no explicit angels in previous simexes. Just one guy who described his daughter as having an angelic quality. Scanlines are in POV shots throughout the film. They are cybernetic entities connecting through a computer, it's not complicated. At first I though there was some significance to the feathers in one shot not being scanlined, but on review it was just the only one not from their POV.

>>290327237
Consent was given at the start of intercourse when she penetrated the PM and he let her in. This is the same extent of consent given in the first PM encounter from the manga, which is the one that is compared to sex.

>>290328855
ok I'm gonna bump the thread and answer tomorrow, busy atm

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>>290326772
what a geek

>>290329561
fuk u steven seagull man
seagulls are weirdoes in oshii's language

i'm not automatically gonna say rapists, but i'll say weirdoes at least

>>290330495
So you're saying I have to fight Batou in the parking lot so he doesn't fly off with my lunch.

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>>290325753
man ace combat 3 is so cool i wish they will reference it in ac8
also Rena is best girl

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I never imagined a faithful version of GitS would cause this much seething
It's really exposing everyone

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this thread make me miss the ip counter

>>290330495
Oshii is a known bird hater and seagulls are the worst birds of all.

>>290330959
No, so he doesn't swim off with your lunch.

It's motoko who might fly off, did you watch Innocence?

>>290331156
yes correct, but I'm just making a joke about batou having steven seagall's hairstyle, he's not a seagull in the film.

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>>290331177
I tried but I was hungry.

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>>290309880
i like them all. i even like arise and sac 2045. now what?

>>290309923
MPV is 4chan, reddit is VLC.

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>>290332702
10 year old MPC is peak 4chan because software updates are for niggercattle
Actual godly software gets everything right in version 1

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I didn't get the last episode it was too confusing

>>290331779
3 and 7 are just straight up different characters. It's like drawing Bulma and saying 'GOKU!' 5 at least you can buy as the Major reliving her childhood or something.

>>290333270
Idk man whatever works reliably and doesn't datamosh my shit.

>>290309964
>screenshotting your own posts
LOL

>>290311042
Zamn

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>>290309880
are you ready for the new mamoru oshii masterpiece? mor bowlcut blue haired badass woman for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh6wwh6SxN8

>>290336284
Nice. I hope she has toxic lesbian sex with the blonde lady.

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>>290309880
I don't love how blatantly they made him pine and simp for Motoko. It ought to be subtler if it's there at all, he's not a fucking teenager.

>>290309880
I can't believe Mamoru Oshii lost the Palme d'Or to Michael Moore.

>>290309901
because hes successful and talented

>>290337468
>It ought to be subtler if it's there at all, he's not a fucking teenager.
Anyone can fall into simping. Teenager or veteran JSDF ranger who's killed dozens. It's the nature of man.

>>290337468
There's only so many ways you can do not acting on unrequited sexual attraction.

>>290337657
Y'know what despite how divisive Innocence can be that was some bullshit.

i think the current anime is starting to dive more into the theme way better than the first few episodes i dont understand why it was so bright and bubbly at the start to now, maybe it was to slowly bring in normies to it?

Not movie or 2026 anime, but what was section 9's plan with the plutonium in s2 of SAC? They defused the bomb and got the plutonium, and then they bring half of it to the refugees? Wasn't their goal to show that the fucked up face guy was the puppetmaster behind everything?

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Togusa being part of Section 9 in the Movies and SAC make sense, skilled Detective joins an established and prestigious counter terrorism unit is not a hard sell but I just recently read the OG manga and 1.5 in preparation for the new series and found out that he was part of Shell Squad before Section 9 was formed. We know why the Major wanted an outlier like him but did they ever give the specifics of how he joined? The Major's unit were basically a bunch of borged up war veterans and their mini tanks working essentially as mercs, the series starts with her looking to go legit. How did a detective with a wife and kid decide to throw away his stable job and work with a bunch of legally grey mercs? While were at it, I doubt the Major set up a booth at a job fair, I wonder how Togusa even got on her radar? Do they ever tell that story?

>>290309880
Horrendous art style

>>290339642
People already thought the refugees had nukes so the government was preparing an assault to get the plutonium back. The only way to stop the assault is for the refugees to hand over the plutonium. To hand over the plutonium, they need plutonium.

>>290339556
>i dont understand why it was so bright and bubbly at the start to now, maybe it was to slowly bring in normies to it?
More like a slight tonal shift in the original work. Shirow more or less started with adventure with a dose of slapstick but toned down the slapstick. I don't think it was a strategy or intentional, more like he found his stride.

>>290331113
People are hostile to secondaries for their entire internet life can't handle being reminded that they are secondaries themselves

>>290331113
90% of the posts here are bait or trolls, including OP

>>290339675
I don't think they ever do address that, though someone else is welcome to correct me. I just figured that the pay raise and benefits were too good for new father to pass up, and with Togusa's brat attitude he wasn't likely to get a promotion as a regular cop. Plus going around in spider tanks probably sounded cool.

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>it's supposed to be shit! it's based on the manga!
yeah well maybe the manga is shit and the movie is the only reason anyone cares about gits

>290342605
(You)

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>>290342605
>s-stop liking it!!!111
No.

>>290309880
Cool fanfic

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>>290328855
Right, I think I see the issue:
1- I don't consider ghost-diving to be sex. Merging is.
2- Here's my minimal standard for consent. Her lines in this panel right here, which Oshii deliberately removed. Manga Puppetmaster even explicitly remarks upon how quickly she consents, meaning that's the type of consent it wanted out of her, not just something implicit. Anything less than that, I consider rape.
(when it comes to merging specifically, not when it comes to ghost-diving)

Oshii had the blueprint for what Motoko's consent looks like, all he had to do was to add two lines and chose not to.

>She even says explicitly that she feels fear alongside hope when sea diving, the activity she uses to simulate transformation.
The way it goes is
-fear, anxiety, isolation, darkness
-sometimes hope
In the ghost-dive scene she sounds afraid the whole time, but even if she's hopeful, it's not good enough by my standard.

>So... not an angel. Motoko was just shooting at him from the roof too. What would even be the point of an angel vision?
He was also looking up at the airplane afterwards, we know what aircraft represent in Oshii films.
It's indeed pointless to shoehorn angels in people's visions, but it's the Puppetmaster's preferred gimmick, evidently.

>They are cybernetic entities connecting through a computer
Exactly, and since the garbageman's daughter was merely a digital construct, then it means the PM can artificially induce quasi-religious feelings at will, and that Motoko's vision and feelings of awe were probably constructed by the PM.

Also, the angel glows green just like mundane holograms and CG throughout the film. I'm saying that to make sure we agree that this is a departure from the manga's spiritual elements.

>which is the one that is compared to sex.
By Batou yes, but not by Motoko, she finds the notion creepy at this point. It merely foreshadows their second encounter, where the sex part (merging) does happen

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>>290309880
>The real Major and Batou
here they are

>>290344315
Batou needed to jerk off more.

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>>290342605
A better point of comparison would be this

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>>290309901
>even the VLAD LOVE designs
Eat ass

>>290339675
Solid point. Can't think of many great reasons as to why she'd want him besides the fact that she seems to have a conscience and wants people who are on board with actually doing some good and fighting corruption/real terrorism. Probably slim pickings from the military world. As to why Togusa would leave, given the state of the world cops are more or less grunts but still have to deal with some heavy shit. Maybe he felt that despite the increased danger, he'd overall be safer working with a better-trained team with WAY better equipment, infosec, information gathering, etc.

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Reminder.

>>290309901
Huh, they look way better than the current cartoon adaptation.

>>290345191
honestly most of Oshii's films are connected in some way, he recycles more character archetypes than just that one.

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>>290345374

>>290345851
Newport city sure looks like a peninsula in the movie.

>>290345968
Yeah but there's a manmade island in the middle, like in patlabor 1, it's the distant shining city of dreams like in the kerberos panzer cops manga, and what surrounds it is the leftover dregs

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>>290345851

>>290336284
>new VOTOMS!!!! Get excited!!!
>ugly and angsty women with some kind of ambiguous yuri subplot
Wow, sasuga Oshii, the master!

>>290309901
retard

>>290345218
>realism = good
You're excited for the latest GTA aren't you?

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>>290346041
there
and I think there's a poem in the last chapter that tells a little bit more about it

I gave the film another chance and I liked it a lot.
The talkie bits bring the film down in my opinion, should been more animated with less dialogue and even more ambiguous. Still excellent.

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I've actually never seen the movie. I just watched standalone complex. Is it good?

>>290345140
I do think she has a tiny bit of a soft spot for him, as her protégé.

>>290346520
it is, yeah.
It's kind of an action thriller combined with psychological horror, one of Oshii's driest films, but very spectacular.

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I just finished reading Orion. I am now in zero doubt that Shirow is, or at least was, one of the greatest cartoonists to ever live. Every page of that shit belongs in a museum. Barely a square inch of page without pure creativity exploding out of it.

>>290346884
Correct
He recently had an exhibition actually
anyway thoughts on Seska?

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>>290309901
95 motoko is goregous and second only to manga motoko (no, 2026 does not count as manga motoko)

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>>290346924
>thoughts on Seska?
Tastes like chicken

>>290346520
Yeah it's pretty good.

Something I noticed from the manga that was very raarely translated to the screen is mold/fungus. Like how the manga safehouse where batou takes motoko's head is covered in mold, and there are multiple bodies throughout the manga that are super decomposed with mushrooms growing out of them. The only anime analogue I can remember is one body in standalone complex having a mushroom on it iirc, and that's kind of a shame because it's a cool visiual

>>290346452
You'd probably like Angel's Egg if you haven't seen it already.

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>>290337468
The point of this scene is that she doesn't see her body as "her", it's just a mech suit she's piloting around, but Batou does see her as being both the body and the consciousnes "piloting" it. It's his stance on the Tachikomas in SAC as well and i'm pretty sure he talks about it in the elevator scene in the movie as well.

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>>290347063
The 95 character design has got to be the single best one in the entire genre

>>290346520
It is similar in style to Stand Alone Complex, just more 90s gothic techno-noir tone than 00s grounded drama. I would say you would probably like it if you liked SAC.

The amount of obnoxious shitposting designed purely to annoy both "sides" stemming from this is really tiresome.

>>290333270
Are you even able to watch av1 or other newer formats?

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>>290309908
If both Adam West and Christian Bale can be Batman. Why can't we have a silly Kusanagi?

>>290347622
Fucked up that moisture and dust can get inside you and fucked you up like a HVAC system.

>>290309880
The people are turned off from this year adaptation even it is the closest thing to the source material possible for a reason. It is too niche and raw and it is hard to like something like this when the first animated version took the character design and idea and sanded off all the rough edges. It tries to be how Hollywood imagines anime to be than actual anime. It is like dorodango in early stage vs finished stage. The early stage is rounded ball of dirt. the finished is round marble (that is still ball of dirt but polished to perfection)
The 2026 version does not "filter the plebs" it filters nothing. Like most early cyberpunk books and manga the manga is very dated and not in a good way it will has less audience. 1995 and 2004 movies are one thing, the manga and 2026 anime are other thing and SAC is another thing that is kind of the middle. Unless you are retard you can't hate either of them but you will like and rank them differently. This is not SAC2045 that was just way Inferior version of SAC that came 20 years earlier and it is not Arise that was just soulless DEI slop version of the idea. This two can be rightfully hated.

>>290351532
>Like most early cyberpunk books and manga the manga is very dated and not in a good way
have you read it

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>>290352217
Yes I've read the years ago when mangatraders was still around. I even still have files.
I could not finish 2.0 it was one of the worst thing I've seen, pure nonsense.

Funniest thing to me is that when 2026 wraps up its fans will be forced to confront Man-Machine Interface. Science Saru will NEVER adapt it because it's so incredibly ass. So newgen fans of the "true and superior source material manga" will have the read part 2 of the manga to conclude the story Science Saru started adapting.

It's at that point they will truly realize why the manga has never been adapted faithfully until now and why everyone else who has ever done an adaptation has chosen to go their own way and NOT stick to Shirow's idea of what Ghost in the Shell should be.

Shirow himself has also had the good grace to realize he didn't know how to wrap up his own creation and is thankful other people have given it a shot instead. He's the total opposite of someone like Stephen King for example. Complaining that Stanley Kubrick ruined The Shining by cutting out or changing all the parts he wrote that fucking sucked.

>>290352427
>So newgen fans of the "true and superior source material manga" will have the read part 2 of the manga to conclude the story Science Saru started adapting.
Not really. Ending of V1 is a reasonable enough jumping off point that most people won't feel the need to bother.

>>290332702
i feel like only /g/ is mpv, and the majority of the chan is VLC because they were told its the swiss army knife of video players and channers are mostly goy cattle

>>290309908
og batou looks like something out of the adventures of tin tin

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>>290352657
True

>>290352427
I'm sorry brother, but you were filtered by a manga riddled with fanservice and raccoons serving as astral projections of secret government psychics.

>>290352427
>Man-Machine Interface
They may be annoying anon, but there's no need to waterboard them.

>>290331779
I dislike the one with the terrible budget.

>>290309880
>what if we took a fun character and removed all her personality and made her into an monotone retard

>>290347744
it's because she actually looks like a living doll

>>290347063
I love this shot and the one in the OP and the one with Batou standing in the market. It really makes him seem robotic even if its mostly just his demeanour and yet even he is still a contrast to the Major on this front in both ways.

>>290333446
Well, 3 is a "child" of 2501 and Kusanagi, no doubt.