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Volume 63
World of Dreams
Chapter 605: Hell
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504

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HOLY BULLSHIT BATMAN
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>>290317475
Sucks that Tobi never did any cool shit like this
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>>290317409
>kakashi, you were supposed to penetrate her before my eyes, but not LIKE THAT
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>>290317441
...And then Kakashi forgot he had it until a couple months ago.
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>>290317400
Surely, kakashi could've been a little more delicate while taking his hand off Rin's chest, no?
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I HATE OBITO I HATE OBITO I HATE OBITO I HATE OBITO I HATE OBITO I HATE OBITO I HATE OBITO I HATE OBITO I HATE OBITO
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>>290317441
>DEFINITELY NOT A RETCON: EPISODE 5783492
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Oh boy. The flashback is still going.
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>>290317544
This is so comical.
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>>290317544
>tfw you realise too late you're a side character
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>>290317557
Why do they care? Rin is dead, her body doesn't hold Isobou anymore.
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>>290317606
and how did Madara know obito's a genius if he NEVER did anything impressive before
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>>290317441
Damn they skipped/instantly awakened the 3-tomoe?
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>>290317606
So, does this make Obito technically a bigger prodigy than Madara (couldn't use wood release until old age)?
I guess he really was a Naruto parallel.
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>I hate this cruel Shinobi world
>...Which is why i'm going to brutally kill all these kiri shinobi instead of incapacitating them :^)
SHARTbito is shit.
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>>290317501
>Do not mock the village of the Bloody Bastard Mist!
What did he mean by this?
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>>290317664
idgi
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>>290317664
He did not need to do all that btw.
Also
>Obito can all that without a drop of stamina
Fucking dogshit.
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>>290317693
CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIN
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B&W
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Why don't all the kiri dudes get powerups from seeing their comrades die?
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>>290317664
>>290317693
I forgot how edgy this was. Also looks WAY better in B&W. The color is trash.
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These dozens of elite kiri shinobi were dumber than part 2 Sakura.
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>Kakashi never questions how he survived this ordeal
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>>290317762
What were the theories at the time for what the kiri shinobi did to Rin?
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Obito jumping from 2 tomoes from MS is horseshit.
Fucking hell, Kid Sasuke got far more traumatized during the massacre and he didn't jump to that level.
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>>290317831
Sasuke was a talentless bum compared to the legendary Uchiha
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>>290317513
This is cooler than all the phasing bullshit Obito constantly does.
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>>290317400
hot
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>>290317864
What does talent have to do with trauma?
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>>290317513
>6'0 vs 5'11
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>>290317409
Rin has nice thighs
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>>290317864
Obito is a hashirama cells merchant.
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>>290317583
Why is random Mizu nin #378 a genius on par with Minato?
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>>290317693
Yeah, sorry. He genuinely didn't go through enough traumatic shit to make this line not sound super corny and tryhard.
It also doesn't work because the previous chapters were constantly comedic, with him making poop jokes and not feeling miserable at all about his current condition.
This is such dogshit writing.
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>>290317571
It's literally a comic
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>>290317501
DO NOT MOCK THE UCHIHA
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>>290317869
Both are pretty cool desu
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Done!
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>>290318117
Thank you for reposting Kishi's manga for me OP! Appreciate you filling in, I know it's a difficult task to dump someone else's manga, so I'll relieve you whenever you need or it's time (^;
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>>290317441
So what, Kakashi actually had the Mangekyou all along in part 1 but just never used it?
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>>290317976
I think the traumatic whiplash between him gaining the power to protect his friends and the trauma of losing everything he cared about was the whole point
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...and that time is never
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>>290318117
Thanks for the comfy dump, OP!
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>>290317601
Because Kishimoto can't write for shit. None of those villages have any reason to do whatever they do
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>>290317693
Why is he bleeding here when he never bled after spamming Kamui outside the flashbacks?
>>290317746
Idk, I think the red of the blood from the last panels looks cool in the colored version.
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>>290317664
>>290317693
Shippuden toned down a lot of brutality. I can't remember anything near as brutal as this scene. The manga went pretty tame for quite some time so this here hits even harder.
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>>290318149
Still doesn't feel earned
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>still 100+700 more days
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>>290317693
>>290317703
>>290318103
>>290318117
Arigatou, OP!
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>>290317664
>>290317693
The only time he really was the coolest guy.
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10 days until KEKji begs JESUSruto to impregnate Hinata in his deathbed.
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>>290317525
>>290318144
my bullshit guess is that since he passed out here that maybe he didn't haven enough charkra/wasn't strong enough yet to use it?
like it's no problem for an Uchia to use the Kamui but for a regular human it could be more difficult to use it?
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>>290318325
After this daily we should do a daily naruto episode, but it's posted frame by frame
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>>290318223
Yeah, I don't think the manga has been this violent since the Sound 4 deaths.
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>>290318526
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>>290318216
It's not his own blood. He is just soaked with it.
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>>290318144
>So what, Kakashi actually had the Mangekyou all along in part 1 but just never used it?

Yup. Maybe meeting Itachi and experiencing Mangekyou led him to researching it, learning of the condition to awakening it, and then testing to see if he had it since he had already met the condition long ago.
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>>290317601
>Why do they care? Rin is dead, her body doesn't hold Isobou anymore.

These guys are ignorant, they probably don't know how jinchuuriki work completely.
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>>290317664
>>290317693
>did all that
>did absolutely nothing to Kakashi
>did not even take his eye back
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>>290317664
>>290317693
Actually cool scene.
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>>290317788
>What were the theories at the time for what the kiri shinobi did to Rin?

We had some vague ideas about a bijuu based mainly on the bubbles around her last chapter, but nothing solid.
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>>290318603
God that's so stupid
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>>290318379
Imagine it. Being killed and becoming a spirit in the pure lands. No matter when, no matter where, no matter how; Hinata and Naruto will never be able to have sex without Neji watching them.
He's so lucky.
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>>290318769
Yeah, the real problem is that Mangekyou is supposed to start going blind as soon as it's awakened, but Kakashi, a non-Uchiha, had zero issues until he activated it a second time.
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>>290318325
I both commend and pity you if you are actually committed to restarting this daily because you believe it upsets some autistic avatar fag
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>>290318798
I thought it only went blind after with use
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>>290318827
It's faster if you use it more but it happens even if you don't use it. Maybe the blindness doesn't start happening until the second use.
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Restarting the daily would be pretty comfy tbdesu
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>>290317645
Isn't it because Madara couldn't fight after losing to First?
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>>290318656
Their KAGE is one.
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>>290319005
No, this is before Yagura. Remember that Yagura was controlled by Obito. He had to have become a jinchuuriki and gotten controlled after this.
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>>290318803
How did he survive WW3?
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>>290317441
did any of them knew they unlocked mangekyo that day?
maybe not Kakashi and definitely not Obito.
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>>290318910
If OP decides to dump Boruto chapters I might actually read that shit for once, if only to dunk on it.
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>>290317400
SHF
HACK
ZWOP
SHF
SLIP
FSH
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>>290317501
>Bloody Mist
>Obito didn't rape Yagura into killing all the kids yet
?
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>>290317693
ok but why didn't he do anything to Kakashi
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The fight with Kaguya is way more interesting and better written than Obito or Madara
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>there's still more than 3 months left of this shit
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>>290319351
Apparently it already existed and Obito just made it worse?
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>>290317664
>>290317693
Okay this IS cool as fuck though
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So this is the flashback that is supposed to justify Obito's reasons for being evil? Because it's doing a bad job
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>>290319140
Obito likely knew. Remember that Mangekyou users instinctively know how to use their powers and even which Japanese god they are properly named after. If Obito didn't know what Mangekyou was, he at least knew, "hey I just got this new doujutsu Kamui."
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>>290319384
>ok but why didn't he do anything to Kakashi

This is the inexplicable part, especially since he was just thinking about "two eyes are stronger together".
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>>290319395
It's later implied that Madara was controlling the Bloody Mist before this.
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>>290319351
>>290319395
The Obito most retcon has to be one of the most egregious cases of Kishimoto's insistence on turning Shippuden into a Saturday morning cartoon and not the gritty anime it was meant to be.
>Nooooooo the shinobi system is not inherently brutal on children. It was the fault of this one single guy hypnotising the fucking head of state of a village.

This would imply that Zabusa killed his classmates after Obito's takeover of the fourth mizukage.
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>>290319618
These Uchiggas fucking hate Waterbros damn
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>>290319636
>*Mist
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>>290319618
But he was an old fart in a cave he couldn't leave, pooing himself.
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>>290319670
He has the white Zetsu to act as agents. Also it's likely that he used Spiral Zetsu as a life support suit himself. It would explain why it already exists and why it has one eye hole.
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>>290319636
I wish they've would've kept Yagura as an evil bastard who was actually responsible for the Bloody Mist. It would've helped set him apart from all the other jinchurikis who are mostly treated as victims.
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>>290319670
>old stinky poopman somehow got to Ame to put his eyes in the first Uzamaki he saw, then stole another Uchiha's Sharingan presumably in Konoha, then traveled to Mizu to get them to trojan horse their nuke in a little girl in a perfect way so that this random child he picked up's friend kills her
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>>290318808
I just like Naruto
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>>290319618
Tobirama really had the right idea huh
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>>290319732
He was revealed to have been controlled almost immediately after he was introduced. It was all part of the Kage Summit arc.
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Hiashi won.
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>>290319732
It would've been even better to make it a systemic issue instead of one crazy mizukage's fault. That would've made more sense given what we learn about mist in the land of waves arc.
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>>290317693
COOLEST GUY
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Everybody loves Obito.
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>>290319191
Boruto is such trash, even shitting on it wouldn't make it worth the read.
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>>290320027
except Rin
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>>290319763
How the fuck did Madara do that without Nagato's parents knowing?
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>>290319191
OP should dump only Kishi Boruto if he ever does that.
Fuck Ikemoto and his designs unironically
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>>290318910
Hanabi is for BUC (Big Uzumaki Cock)
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>>290320082
Genjootsoo
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>>290319087
Logistics guy probs
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>>290317441
Behold, the one cool concept borne of this entire twist bullshit
I dunno, the idea of the linked eyes experiencing identical tragedy and unlocking Mangekyo is kind of cool, too bad its immediately wasted on this slop.
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>>290320342
The sequence is cool, but Obito's complete change of character is simply not believable. And it's doubly unbelievable that he'd ignore Kakashi and not target him for revenge. I think it would have worked a tiny bit better if Rin had impaled herself on some Mist-nin's weapon.
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Obito's reasons for doing everything are so fucking badly written. Instead of finding out what really was going on, he just suddenly went off to the deep end. And why the fuck didn't he use those cool tentacles before? What a waste of design
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>>290319765
I stand by what I said. Honestly hope you actually follow through and continue with the forced daily.
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>>290317627
>>290317646
brutal
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>98% of dude's thoughts are "gotta protect that one girl"
>sees her being killed by his best friend
>HURR DURR WHY DIDN'T HE JUST CALMLY ASK WHAT'S GOING ON?
Are you guys autistic? Like actually autistic, not internet autisitc
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>>290318194
You gonna have a meltie if someone else starts dumping again? Be honest.
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>>290320131
It's really sad that Shippuden genuinely has 0 grounded hand to hand fights in it like this one.
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>>290320638
Are you actually trying to defend this shit writing?
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>>290320768
This one sequence looks better than 90% of fighting in shippuden
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>>290320342
>>290320395
No, I think the concept is dogshit. Kakashi shouldn't even be able to use the MS, he was already getting fucked hard from just using the normal Sharingan.
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>>290317409
WHY WOULD KEKASHI DO THIS
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>>290317664
jesus. no wonder hashirama was respected.
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>>290320638
Who are you quoting?
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>>290317774
Kakashi didn't know he was there
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>>290319191
I'm the one whose gonna dump that actually.
Just need to find some english scans.
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>>290321718
What does that have to do with anything? He was surrounded by enemies and passed out. He would have been killed or kidnapped.
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>>290319077
I don't think Clamkage was the one ruling Kiri at this point.
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>>290317523
AIEE...
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>>290321308
you haven't seen anything yet
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>>290321858
It was the guy after him, the Third Mizukage. He's the most mysterious.
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>*gives Kishimoto a heart attack*
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Obito should've just been one of Pain's paths
Tobi can just be Madara, most boring option but it's the least bullshit one too (I remember the theories at the time that he was Kawaki kek, might've been interesting maybe)
Edo Obito can somehow help out Naruto & co during the war and be a cool guy there if Kishi still wants that
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>>290321839
I thought you were asking why Kakashi didn't question Obito about how Obito survived against dozens of Rain ninja
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reminder that all of the Uchiha wankery and Hashi cells deification exists so post-curse mark Sasuke has an excuse to still be considered a threat to sage Naruto
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>>290322557
>all the retarded sharingan powercreep existed solely so Nartuo and Sasuke could be considererd on par to one another because Naruto + Sage Mode + KCM was too grossly overpowered
I hate Kishi so god damn much for wasting so much potential.
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>>290322557
I always thought the Curse Mark should've evolved into an artificial Sage Mode Ororchimaru was trying to work on honestly, can have Sasuke perfect it somehow
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>>290320459
they're not tentacles, they're tree branches. it's a wood style jutsu, because of the Hashirama cells
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>>290322626
>I always thought the Curse Mark should've evolved into an artificial Sage Mode Ororchimaru was trying to work on honestly,

this guy?
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>>290322626
The curse mark was a dropped powerup entirely since the Sharingan got so ridiculous of a buff. Even Sage mode was dropped so quickly because it was introduced too late. The powercreep in the last 150 chapters is ludicrously exponential.
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>>290322626
there was no reason to even get rid of it, it was purely to boost Itachi's resume.
so actually, no, my original comment was wrong. the wankery doesn't exist for Sasuke, it exists so Itachi can be the pinnacle of Mary Sues. everything else was collateral damage.
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>>290322525
>Boruto time travelers theorizing that Tobi was Kawaki
what's their game...?
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>>290322771
I haven't read/watched Boruto, is this an actual thing there lol
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>>290322823
Kawaki is a Boruto character
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>>290322851
Nawaki Kawaki, potatoes tomatoes
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>>290322626
Kabuto had some sort of articial sage mode shit going on no
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>Naruto ends up realising the shinobi system is really broken and corrupt
>series ends with Naruto no longer wanting to become hokage because that's part of the old system that brought death upon so many people, and he'd rather create a new system of peace and love
Would it be kino or slop?
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>>290323116
Potential to be kino depending on how it's executed. But there are many very difficult questions that still need to be answered, such as
>how to replace the system
>what to put in place of the old system
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>>290323116
Kino because he'd be more imporant than just another Hokage
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>>290323116
>and he'd rather create a new system of peace and love
What does that even mean
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>>290319704
>It would explain why it already exists and why it has one eye hole.
but the one eyehole is exactly on the side Madara doesn't have an eye right now!
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>>290323116
impossible in a world where people spit fire.
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>>290320459
Because apparently the only thing this chud incel cared about in life was getting the chance to fuck this girl who barely acknowledged his existence and since that was taken away from him he sperged out. He acts like the shinobi world order made him suffer in life when it miracilously saved him from dying and he got OP magical powers as a bonus. If anything Kakashi got much bigger shit thrown at him in life yet he just shut up and pushed through it. There is no way to rationalize Obito's decisions he's just evil
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>>290317693
AIIIIEEEEEE'm in hell!
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>>290317583
>>290317606
alright, that was kinda sick
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>>290317693
Modern art but it's actually cool
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>>290318248
If watching his crush die and being powerless isn't enough, what is?
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>>290317664
>>290317693
most kills were from the white zetsu's abilities; how come none of the zetsu nuked the battlefield like this during the war?
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The anime fight for this Obito vs Mist follows the manga one really well.
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>>290323867
How about seeing your whole clan killed by your loving brother and being powerless?
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>>290324008
It doesn't make sense to do that for Obito
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>>290317441
So what part 1 scenarios should Kakashi have nodifed considering he canonically had Kamui available
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>>290321807
Use gallery-dl and pick any decent website if you can't get it a proper source on Nyaa. Weebcentral can do the trick
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>>290324192
Zabuza, Haku, Orochimaru, Kisame, everyone during Konoha crush.
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>>290320016
Wait they have 10 FUCKING OBITOS?
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Obito killing half of his clan over this still doesn't feel justified.
>B-but he was a shunned orphan!
You REALLY want me to believe that EVERYONE in that clan collectively bullied him to a point where he doesn't have any empathy for his uncles, aunts, cousins and grandparents?
Or that Itachi was the one that killed those he cared for (which Obito would know anyway)?.
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>>290324248
Yes.
2, 9, and 10 are campaign only tho
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>>290324377
Why didn't Konan blow herself up here?
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Alright, how many of you are Mexican/South American (arr rook saem), Black, and SEAfag?
I'm told only 3rd worlders like this shit.
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>>290324377
Kinda weird how they never made a lot of those playable. Well, if these are just minor tweaks then you only have 7 Obitos, which isn't that crazy although it's probably mostly because Obito dropped the fan after the mask was broken so you need to give him another moveset without the mask. Still. 7 Obitos.
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>>290324433
She forgot.
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>>290317409
Why did kishimoto draw a 13 yo with plump thighs?
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>>290324433
Because she did not any explosives left unironically.
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>>290324248
Only 7 are playable
>>290324455
Mostly because the campaign playable ones don't have much going for them to actually make movesets out of
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>>290324377
KONAN NOOOO
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>>290324495
Yeah these would be tweaks for single story fights. Not too crazy.
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>>290324489
Same reason why Gwen and Ty Lee have those
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>>290324493
But she can create some.
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>>290324450
What do you consider south europe?
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>>290324489
Those aren't plump at all.
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>>290323116
You could hand Kishimoto the best ideas of all time and the execution could only ever be slop.
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>>290324192
>Zabuza
Kamui his arm off.
>Orochimaru
Kamui his arm off (or maybe his head to be more safe)
>Kabuto
Kamui his arm off
>Kisame
Kamui his arm off
>Itachi
Don't look into his eyes and just Kamui his arm off
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>>290317523
very inconsistent height, Obito looks older than 13 here
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>>290324582
Why the fuck are you aiming for an arm instead of their head or torso
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>>290324587
he's using the zetsu legs and arms speedreader
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>>290317664
Coolest page in a while
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>>290324539
Not after wasting 271k paper bombs
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>>290324141
Why not?
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>>290324664
If she exploded 1000 a second instead of fucking 1 billion, she could've kept it going for literal years.
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>>290324549
Arab
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>>290324714
She is a dumb whore with piercings. The fuck did you expect?
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>>290324610
Idk
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>>290324765
Idk I don't like this design for Konan. It makes her look too slutty.
Part of the appeal for goth chicks is usually how modest they dress.
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>>290323116
>and he'd rather create a new system of peace and love
Tobirama, Madara, and Hashirama tried to create that
Guess what happened?
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>>290324799
>I don't like this design for Konan.
Pic related
>It makes her look too slutty.
Ain't she tho?
>Part of the appeal for goth chicks is usually how modest they dress.
a-anon....
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>>290324664
If she can create six hundred billion explosive tags over the years, she can create a dozen in a second.
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>>290324799
She had sex before marriage, anon.
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>>290325064
She should be able to create thousands in a second. Like if she created them over 20 years that's literally 1000 per second for all of those years without sleep.
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Aizen's motivations and backstory were kept from the reader, but that kept him intriguing. Yhwach's backstory was incredibly flat, he was pretty much just evil for the sake of evil. Imu's backstory is years away, but there are already some intriguing points set up for it to be expanded on.
Obito's backstory is one of the worst backstories in the series, stupid and nowhere near traumatizing enough to justify his bullshit.
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>>290324611
I may be retarded
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>>290323116
I don't think this story should've ever been about the shinobi systems and it's flaws.
Naruto growing out of wanting to become homage would be kino though if executed right.
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>>290325117
wrong thread?
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>>290323116
A long time ago I thought this is exactly what the story was driving at after Zabuza.
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>>290325117
There are two problems with Obito's charachter.
1. Eye of the moon plan
2. The backstory.
Ask yourself, what kind of person would believe that eye of the moon is a actually a good idea? And was Obito that kind of person? There's an obvious incongruence here. Eye of the moon is retarded, so anyone who comes to that conclusion is retarded as well, irrespective of motivations. Except we don't see Obito or Madara acting like retarded chuda outside of this plan.

Now, since his character does not justify the EotM then maybe his backstory does. But we know what he went through is not very different from what other shinobis experience. So it's entirely on him.

Ultimately he proves to be nothing more than a retard who fell for the trappings of another retarded boomer. This show would work better as a comedy of errors.
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>>290324826
man Kishi trying to make some big anti-war shpeal with Madara and Hashirama retroactively makes so much of the series make no sense.
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>>290317544
>he already uses phasing perfectly immediately after awakening the mangekyou
I guess?
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>>290325537
>The eye of the moon plan is bad! You just have to accept living a shitty life over living out your fantasy!
Besides the Zetsu thing, the only other bad thing was the inability to opt out. Without those two drawbacks, it's a great deal
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>>290326228
Left and right have NEVER been refuted btw
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>>290324826
what was their endgame?
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>>290324799
kek what? Goth girls are advertising that they are sluts.
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>>290326316
>world with magical powers and the entirety of society and economy revolves around and is tailor made for ritualised espionage
>let's end this
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>>290324799
>homie doesn't even know what a goth is
the entire point is that they're "controlling their femininity and sexuality". it's an attempt to reclaim and rehabilitate mediaeval witchcraft and reject cultural norms regarding feminine modesty. witches were the feminazis of the middle ages.
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>>290326070
I'd rather be plugged into matrix tree than watch a single episode of Boruto.
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>>290326070
>If you remove the bad things then the plan is good!
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>>290326070
Anyone with half a brain knows that if something is too good to be true then there's something bad hidden in plain sight.
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>>290317501
>>290317513
>>290317523
>>290317544
>>290317557
This shit was immaculate in the anime.
https://youtu.be/ux0Qnn2XEgM

>>290317606
Woodstyle is horrifying.
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>>290309539
> Did Sasuke ever reciprocate Naruto's gay-ass affection for him.
Did you forget that his entire motivation for getting EMS was the ability to curb stomp Nardo specifically and that was after he snapped.
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>>290317523
>AIEEEE MASKED MAN SAMA YAMETEEE-ACK
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>>290326352
>>290326444
Yea I guess you're right
It's just when I picture a goth I imagine her being all dressed in multiple black clothes
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>>290326860
I fucking hate this theme so much
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>>290326884
He was going blind. I'm pretty sure he would've wanted the new eyes that give him infinite Amaterasu spam either way.
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>>290319191
Just a couple of questions:
>is burrito still going on?
>has Sarada gotten her EMS yet?
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>>290327020
Yes.
And she hasn't swapped eyes yet.
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>>290327020
Google it retard
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I think rereading the manga has made me realize that Jiraiya is the only character that's actually well written in this series. He's made to be a strong and wise older person, but he's not invincible and he's still a flawed person, and the flaws he has don't make him exaggeratedly evil or irredeemable. That's different from someone like Minato who's a flawless Gary Stu or Itachi who's treated like a saint despite all the genocide and mind raping he did.
Sure, his dead against Pain is a bit bs and forced, but he's still overall a solid character.
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>>290318080
>>290318103
these are cool pages but it's hard to care for uchiha naruto that ragetarded into demigod kage because literal who died.
>>290318117
thanks op.
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>>290327561
He was quite retarded when he decided to keep fighting Pain and letting Sasuke get mindraped.
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>>290327964
most of his decisions are retroactively fucking stupid and several major conflicts in the series are the direct result of him projecting his 'child of destiny' delusions on every random kid he comes across. He also was a terrible teacher whose only contribution to Naruto's skill set is frog summons, and he barely even taught him how to do that.
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>>290327561
>iraiya is the only character that's actually well written in this series.
As long as you skip all chapters relating to his backstory I suppose
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Everybody could I have your attention please? I have some very exciting news... The mpreg jutsu was a success! Sasuke and I are going to be parents!
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>>290328256
Futa!Sakura...
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>>290327561
I don’t trust anyone that makes posts like this. You never liked the series to begin with
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>>290327561
That's obviously true, I don't know why anyone would disagree with you here.

>>290328164
>>290327964
All of these things are Kishimoto's fault rather than Jiraiya's. Like, they'd be thing you'd call Hiruzen a bloodlusted sociopath for, but in canon he's just a (somewhat misguided) kind old man.
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>>290319384
>>290318684
>>290319601
After reading ahead, it’s literally explained why Obito didn’t kill Kakashi.
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>>290328871
Brother, everything is Kishimoto's fault.
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>>290329056
Not exactly. You can tell there are things that happen DESPITE Kishimoto and others BECAUSE of him
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>>290328871
> I don't know why anyone would disagree with you here.
Stop responding to yourself. At least make it less obvious
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>>290329114
You might want to get help.
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i never noticed it when it was weekly but did Kishimoto forget to draw Biju/Kurama Mode sometimes?
Some panels it looks complete and in some it doesn’t look any different from the previous chakra mode
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>>290328381
I like it enough that I want it to be good instead of being mindless "aurafarming" slop that standardless retards consume.
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>>290318387
>he didn't haven enough charkra
This makes the most sense, but it's also completely nonsensical. Going by Kishi's original explanation, Kakashi logically should have less chakra capacity. Chakra requires molding physical energy with mental energy, and since he's getting older and he's past his prime years, Kakashi naturally has less physical energy, therefore less ability to produce as much chakra.
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>>290317441
So why did he never use it in part one kishimoto????
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>>290329500
>he's past his prime years
bro kakashi is like 25
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>>290324450
OP is a faggot, so that's something
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Posted in the wrong thread cause there's two dailys for some reason

I just don't see how madaras obito logic even works.

So he found a retarded half dead Uchiha kid and was like "yes......... I can manipulate this kid into manipulating someone else with the rinnegan (that I give, but I have not unlocked yet so idk how I'm devising this plan anyway desu) to revive me in 40 years. This is clearly very easy and doable. Very logical.

I don't get it

How the fuck is pain even involved anymore this shit makes no sense at all
The nagato retcons with obito are stupid and gay and make nonsense
nagato is fucking older than obito isn't he
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>>290327561
My favorite part is when he told Tsunade he'd kill her if she "betrayed" the village but acts like he's seeing an old friend when he encounters Orochimaru who just attacked the village and killed his teacher. Such a great character.
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>>290328871
>I don't know why anyone would disagree with you here
Cringe samefagging
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>>290330416
We all accept the war arc is shit that goes off the rails. It's best not to question it. Madara having 0 connection to any of the living characters makes his plan even more retarded. Why would he care if they were "suffering"?
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>>290330480
INSANE levels of projection. Mentally ill anon for mentally ill threads.
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>>290330385
It's Japan. Naruto is currently in his prime at 16. Kakashi is old as fuck in Japan years.
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>>290330385
25 is practically a fossil in animu. Consider how Hashirama's era is essentially prehistoric times to our cast.
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>>290330557
Guess I was too on the mark here, or maybe he took my advice.
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>>290317664
Rare Kishimoto kino.
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>>290330749
What's kino about it? Just seems edgy.
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Holy fuck. These tumbleweeds are HUGE
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>>290323334
>There is no way to rationalize Obito's decisions he's just evil

it's like Uchiha have some genetic tendency to flip out and go super murderous. but that would be just silly!
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>>290324192
>So what part 1 scenarios should Kakashi have nodifed considering he canonically had Kamui available

None since he didn't use it effectively in part 2 either until he ran into the one guy whom it doesn't work on directly.
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>>290325064
The six hundred billion number is bullshit. That should have been a gigaton level explosion spread out over five minutes. Six hundred thousand is easily enough.
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>>290329048
>After reading ahead, it’s literally explained why Obito didn’t kill Kakashi.

It was a bad, stupid reason though. He should have at least taken his eye back.
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It's always amusing when some faggot reports me. Just proves whatever I said bothers him. Truth hurts.
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>Kakashi’s first mission as a Jonin ended with two of his teammates dying
It’s a wonder that he didn’t get demoted or treated as an outcast like his dad
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>>290331702
>Kakashi’s first mission as a Jonin ended with two of his teammates dying
Are you actually stupid or just baiting?
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>>290326999
Why are you even here then? Best theme from old Naruto.
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>>290326070
Are the issue with this plan really needed to be spelled out?
1. Everyone dies. Even without the zetsu thing everyone will eventually die inside the tree and humanity would go extinct.
2. EotM is not sold as some plan for personal escape from reality. Otherwise Obito would've hooked upto it himself leaving everyone else alone. They were trying to end wars and violence to usher in a world of peace. They wanted to create a new reality. And their idea of "peace" is lulling everyone into a sleep lol.

Some anon on 4chan or some kid watching this on toonami might see some merit in this solution but it falls apart under scrutiny. But Madara and Obito are not either. They are supposed to be smart and see through the bs. Especially Madara.

The retardation of EotM plan ruins both Obito and Madara as characters since they are both serious about EotM being a legit solution to shinobi violence. Madara comes off as a petty jealous retard who'd rather go for this retarded bs instead of playing second fiddle to Hashirama's real work towards real peace in the real world.
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>>290329082
What are things that happen despite Kishi?
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>>290330385
According to databooks he's 31 at this point.
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>>290326884
I don't remember it being about defeating Naruto. In any case that doesn't sound like affection.
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>>290330574
Every character in Naruto hits their prime when it's plot convenient. Tsunade has her prime at 50 years old after she spent the last 20 of them drinking and gambling.
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>>290331735
Tell me why i'm wrong instead of being an obnoxious faggot.
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>>290332540
>Naruto hits their prime when it's plot convenient
Are you actually stupid or just baiting?
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>>290323116
Slop. Utopian nonsense.
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>>290317693
Would this be Naruto's reaction if the roles were reversed? If he arrived at Sasuke getting killed?
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>>290333281
Pain killed jiraya and the leaf village and Naruto forgave him for it.
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>>290333675
None of those is his gay lover.
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>>290332427
Madara/Obito did not want human extinction and thus must have believed humanity would simply be trapped in a dream rather than slowly becoming food for the tree.
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>>290323116
Naruto accepts his role as the messiah and returns ninja to their religious roots. He unites all countries under a single theocratic government and starts new era of peace and stability (while dealing brutally with heretics and infidels). This would be kino, anything else slop.
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>>290317395
600 chapters of shounenslop my god... who would waste their time like this?
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>>290324664
hold up, if Tobi's intangibility was always the same jutsu as his teleportation technique, why was there a time-limit in place?
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>>290334088
They would still grow old and die, right? Not that the answer makes the plan any less absurd
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>>290334917
Do any of these limitations from the Konan fight exist in his other fights?
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comfy!
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>>290317441
Wait, so how come Obito can spam hos mangekyo without losing his sight?
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>>290317536
She liked it, so...
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>>290324489
because it's sexy?? why else
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>>290326043
I guess that means it's automatic after all.
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>>290317746
>>290318216
The fun thing is that we have both versions and can compare.
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>>290330468
>when he told Tsunade he'd kill her if she "betrayed" the village
She was literally considering healing the guy that just murdered Hiruzen and attempted to destroy Konoha.
>acts like he's seeing an old friend when he encounters Orochimaru
He was clearly being sarcastic. Afterwards he tells Orochimaru they are no longer comrades and says he'll kill him.
How can you be such a fucking retard and misinterpret this kids shounen so badly?
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>>290324377
I don't get it. All Obito ever does is fire ball, kamui spam, and izanagi that one time. Even after getting the rinnegan, he just stands there and watches jinchuriki fight for him. The biosuit this chapter gives his punches some tree branches, whoa. He's still a Kamui merchant.
But I don't know about six paths. I never made it this far in the manga.
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>>290332454
Hiruzen being a bloodlusted sociopath
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>>290323116
>and he'd rather create a new system of peace and love
He grew up in a shinobi world with absolutely no wars. The most he ever saw was the Sand/Sound Crush Konoha operation, which was really just the plan of 1 dude, and killed no one Naruto knew or cared about. And after that ended, the Sand Village, after killing really no one of any remark, immediately became friends and allies with the Leaf village. Right before he was born the shinobi world was so absolutely rife with non-stop war that children under 10 were routinely thrown out in waves into the front lines, and expected to fight, kill, and die, but he never had to experience that at all.
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They mentioned Naruto UNIVERSE
so timelines
and multiverse is possible.
Holy fuck, we're getting SasuHana after all
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>card game
>anime news
>maybe another game news
>life-action news
that would sustain our general for at least 5 whole years
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>>290339584
Why do you want Hanabi to be a kissless wife?
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>>290327561
>Jiraiya is the only character that's actually well written in this series
>Naruto...hmm that name kinda rings a bell....
>he has the nine tails in him...hmm I wonder....
>yellow, spiky hair? kinda reminds me of.....hmm
>Uzumaki? Like...Kushina...? Hmm......
>his birthday was the exact day the nine tails rampaged, killed Minato and Kushina, and Minato sealed away the nine tails in his.....son......
>look, he's doing the rasengan, just like.....hmmm.......
>Nah, can't be Minato's son, no way.
>begins to die
>Naruto, my god-son, I named you...the son of my star pupil, Minato.....I remember it all now.....
>takes 2 years to train naruto to do BIG rasengan
One thing I will say about Jiraiya is that while he's poorly written, he had to be poorly written because Kishi is a retard. Sure Jiraiya should have been not retarded and taught Naruto Sage Mode, or realized immediately that he's Minato's son and let Naruto know, but we needed Naruto to be PAINFULLY weak in the beginning of Shippuden to show how awesome and cool and better Sasuke had gotten, and needed Naruto to not know Minato was his dad so we can "reveal" it later on during the Pain fight.
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>>290339710
Motherfucker you know how hard it is to read 1 chapter a day of this absolute fucking garbage? You think most of us are gonna play a card game, play a video game, watch the anime (I never even watched it to begin with because it's a waste of time), and watch a live action series? Fuck that.
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At least Hanabi looks like a woman
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>>290339789
>Motherfucker you know how hard it is to read 1 chapter a day of this absolute fucking garbage?
I used to read Naruto once a week If I remember correctly it was on wednesday, shitty magazine scans, bad fan trasnlation and all.
I'm invincible.>>290339789
>You think most of us are gonna play a card game, play a video game, watch the anime (I never even watched it to begin with because it's a waste of time), and watch a live action series?
ye
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>>290337847
Jiraiya thinking about killing Tsunade over just taking out Oro as they were approaching the battlefield is so fucking funny, you have to wonder if kishi wanted to bank on Ororaiya fujos.
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>>290339791
Boo fucking hoo, so does Haku.
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>>290340035
>Haku
would
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>Director is fine with AI being used in his movie
>Now this Kakashi
No likey
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>>290337193
B&W looks better, so i don't know what the point in comparing is. I don't think the color has ever looked better
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>>290332936
Nobody died on Kakashi's first mission as a Jonin. Dumb dumb.
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Someone please post tits and calm those anons DOWN!
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>>290341140
the color at times is more clear
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>>290340583
you did vote for her, right?
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>>290341384
mhm
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>>290341409
terrifying
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>>290337847
Kek. Retard.
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Would be more interesting if Rin was a femboy like Haku.
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>>290339710
I admire the dedication to keep this shitty general going, but it's pretty sad when I know the only reason is you're goading the no-life Sasukefag.
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>>290339931
>reading an ongoing series is exactly the same as reading it once it's finished
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>>290341700
what are you even trying to prove here.
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Comfy daily? Wonned bigly!
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>>290341784
The experiences aren't even comparable. We know the story now and we know it sucks. It's much different reading a weekly series when you don't know what's going to happen next.
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>>290340014
She tried to poison Jiraiya, and Jiraiya believed she was willing to heal Orochimaru, who would try to destroy Konoha again.
You're a genuine moron fir misunderstanding this.
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>>290341640
Why talk so badly about yourself?
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>>290336644
digits don't lie
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>>290343175
He could've thought about killing them both.
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>>290330520
>>290330520
Kek. This really just proves I'm right and you're butthurt over it. What a sad no-life. These threads are all you have.
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>>290344193
>>290330557
>>290341192
The truth really hurts, huh? Lol
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>>290332427
>Everyone dies
Who cares?
>And their idea of "peace" is lulling everyone into a sleep lol.
It objectively would lead to peace so what is the issue?
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>>290332427
They know they are destroying the world and killing everyone. They have that evil impulse and lust for power. It is the same as communism. The upper level theorists and practitioners know they will destroy everything and kill everyone, that is what they want. They say they are building a perfect world so they can also recruit the gullible as well as the intelligent but evil, and prevent the masses from fighting back as if their lives depended on it.
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>>290342660
Based
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>>290317664
>>290317693
>go out for a routine Anbu op
>end up skewered by an invincible man who can create tree roots
I've always felt bad for these dudes.
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>>290346442
Bad analogy. Communism just means the people of a nation having direct control over their resources by abolishing private property. It's not a perfect world in any sense and nowhere near as retarded as eye of the moon. Plus nobody fell for it besides Obito or Madara. Somehow not involving Nagato in this save dhis character from retard syndrome.
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>>290346442
I hate americans.
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>>290337102
Hashirama's cells
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Who keeps bumping this thread and why?
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>>290349953
>>290349864
People would have fallen for it if they had the chance. Lucky for them they lived under decent leadership. Madara and Obito were not stupid, they knew what they were doing. They were supremely butt hurt by the world and wished to have and use unlimited power to get revenge against existing. That is what communism is, they just say different words because the truth does not attract the gullible or flatter intelligent. And behind the human layer it is inspired and directed by pale white beings fallen from heaven. The whole thing is just the universal story, that is why it is so popular.
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>>290350161
No idea.
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>>290349864
let's have a thought experiment. how are the resources controlled if a private individual is not in charge of them?
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>>290317690
>just incapacitate these literal child murderers! if you kill them you'll be just like them!
Literal satanic thinking.
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>>290318117
RIP. Last good chapter of this dogshit manga.
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>>290352677
Digits confirm, it's a total mystery.
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>>290317425
right there they've given away the game, so why would he ape out and assume kakashi just murked her for teh lols?
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>>290317606
he sure is killing this one guy in particular
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>>290317664
... okay, but can't any element do this? why is would so fellated when this could be a bunch of guys pierced on ice or earth or what have you?



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