What the heck she doesn't look like that
>>290489047>>290489317>baby's first bait threadYou need another line of work Raj.
very philosophical
>>290489317>>290489367Fuck off zoomies.
She's so cute bros
I would 100000% endorse an anime-original continuation from Saru
The continuity of the soul as traditionally conceived in the Platonist tradition is not dependent on continuity of personality or memory, since the soul was regarded as reincarnating, possibly even into animal bodies. Abrahamic religions generally reject reincarnation so this element of the conception is neglected.
>>290489815this episode had original scenes in the beginning, so it's possible
more likeFatoko
>>290489815what has Saru done to deserve such trust? almost everything theyve done with GitS is derivative, there's no evidence they can create decent original content
>>290490262They've really knocked this out of the park and the manga just sucks after the first part. Even if it ended up being mediocre, the production aspect surely will be on point so it's absolutely worth a shot.
>>290490349pretty lights alone do not a compelling television makeOshii may be getting lots of shit here, but he was a man with a vision and solid SF chops
Anyone planning on seeing the 4k re-release of the 1995 movie in theaters?
>>290490436yeah but it's pretty much the same vision he always has, except less funny
look at him go!
>>290490436OK yeah it probably won't be as good as one of the greatest sci fi films of all time what's your point
What happened to Shirow between volume 1 and 2 of GITS? When I opened the first page of MMI, it felt like fanfiction, both in terms of writing and the art. Probably the only moments when you know that it's really Shirow are black and white pages, probably the only nice part of that whole mess. Shirow should stick to pencils and crayons.
BEST GIRL POLL:https://strawpoll.com/NoZrzm61BZ3https://strawpoll.com/NoZrzm61BZ3https://strawpoll.com/NoZrzm61BZ3We all know Motoko is best girl so I didn't include her.
Does Batou ever have sex with the major?
>>290490262Dedication to the original works they do. The art styles and research involved put SS at the top imo when it comes to accurate adaptations. They're 3 for 3 of the things I've read and while it's a small sample size I can see good things to come.
>>290490578HAH!Not even a peck on the cheek.In the manga after the "did you fall in love with me?" line she fucking punches him in the face
>>290490578He respects her too much for that
>>290490578they're besties.
>>290490572It really hard to say because it is so fucking different from everything else he made before. Orion is his next most complicated manga, and even that is far easier to understand if you filter out all the magical technobabble. Man-Machine Interface feels like it was written decades later, not a few years later.
>>290490610>Not even a peck on the cheek.Damn
The major seems depressed. I hope she'll be okay
So Project 2501 is basically Carrie.She's a frumpy shut-in girl with superpowers, who just wants to be pretty and have fun like the other girls.But as soon as she goes for her first big night out, things go horribly wrong and she fucking dies.
>>290490776no
>>290490732Emotoko
>>290490572I got to the mascot character and threw it away no lie
>>290490796y not?
>>290490533>what's your point>>290490587>Dedication to the original works they do.my point is that all this has fuckall to do with how competent they would be at an anime originalyou've simply fallen prey to the halo effect
>>290490838you're literally anti-art
>>290490815interesting. Can't wait. When you see the truth you can't act all dumb anymore
Hottest Motoko?
I've heard Shirow stopped drawing cyberpunk manga and switched to porn because his new Appleseed drafts were destroyed in a typhoon but this story sounds super made up, is it true?
>>290490919Yes. This is the hottest Motoko.
>>290490875this sentence does not make enough sense to be disputed
>>290490533He doesn't have a point. Don't waste your time arguing with this retard.
The TGS hate is so forced
>>290489047>What if I posted new anime but... OLD>No one's replying to my thread?>Let me reply myself... okay, send...>Then, reply... Fuck off zoom zooms....>YES! Now my thread will reach bump limit!>They will all talk about their generation!Fuck you and your shitty /pol/ behaviour.
>>290490932An earthquake destroyed his studio and he's apparently had a lot of family trouble and health problems over the years.
In 2 weekshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOFqICZpNFk
>>290490184The Puppetmaster's backstory wasn't in the manga?
>>290491117No, all you get is a few lines of dialogue that were also adapted. But everything Saru made up is consistent with her characterization.
>>290491104It's NOT Michael Jackson it's PETE BURNS goddammitWe know it's Pete because Shirow wrote an appleseed chapter called Dead or Alive that same year
>>290491117neural networks weren't a thing when the manga was createdyou know, the whole "AI model learns chess by playing one billion games against itself" thing
>>290490578depends, would you put your arms around a woman like this and NOT sleep with her (while she's astral projecting from a totally different body)?
>>290490919Blue, but Black Motoko is the most precious.Sorry Purple...
>>290491224That did seem "modern" but self-refining/darwinian intelligence is pretty reasonable speculation so I wouldn't have been surprised if Shirow had thought of it or seen it theorised somewhere.
>>290490919Chartoko Kirkanagi
>>290491224The manga says "by fusing data from games and cyberbrains it accessed"
>>290491378Lieutenant Quattro Bajeena of the Anti Earth Union Group.
>>290491378she tanked that
>>290491437>tfwn gamer 2501 gf
>>290491437fusing data together and evolutionary learning are very different
>>290490919
>>290491493she plays Catan! that's how you know she's a keeper
>>290491650fuck you
>>290491650which version of Batou is the MOST KEKED of them all?
>>290491461?
>>290491650her arise design is kinda whatever it starts to improve when it's paying off the design from the oshii movies
>>290491805it means "four vaginas"
>>290491842the manga makes him uncomfortably handsome
>>290491842the breakup bangs make her look like she's balding, it's tragic
>>290491857>they gave him the bara faux-hawkuhoh...
>>290491890arise having close to zero sex appeal also goes against it.the manga kinda goes overboard at times but the major is meant to be sexy and arise feels like a featureless barbie doll
>>290491760Would she play War for Arrakis or would she be offended as a cyberbot?
>>290492259She'd probably be fine with it, she considers AI who don't collaborate with humans to be incredibly stupid and beneath her.
>>290492408What kind of SEX would 2501 like?
>>290492482Lesbian sex it would seem. But I'm sure she could be convinced to try anything as long as you make it sound like a game of some kind.picrel
>>290492558I would not treat 2501 like that.
>>290492703Me neither, not after all the characterization she got. I think a kinky thing to try would be to make her roleplay as a robot, see if she can pass as a lower-level AI, I'm sure that'd be an interesting challenge for her. And it's hot.
>>290493061I would treat Motoko like that. Especially Purple Motoko.
cameltoeko
>>290494247no wonder Batou thought she was horny for himsuch a tease
>>290491793Oshii Batou by far.
>>290490732>>290490815>That's it!>I'M GONNA FUCKING JUMP
>>290494488Do a flip
>>290492482probably something weird and experimental like fucking the inside of her head to see what it feels like.
>>290491846But what does that have to do with batou getting cucked by a bullet?
>>290496236>Chartoko
>>290491842I like the arise design
>>290489469>>290490218
>>290492703>>290493061You have to be way meaner to her, actually. Robots are made to be broken.
>>290490578No She uses Togusa as a post-mission stress relief sex toy though
>>290496831Ruined
>>290496831Saved
>>290496970So does he, she's not special.
>>290497579>>290496970I always just assumed Operators were free use
>>290497579How does that work? Does he just jerk himself off really hard?
>>290498300No she uses a strap and doesn't allow him to touch it
>>290498414Do you think she chose him because of his catboy tendencies or did he start acting like that after getting pegged
>>290490932No it's not true, he's been drawing porn for decades, people keep repeatedly lying in these threads for reasons
>>290497613The old ape monopolizes them.
>>290490516
>>290498862I love Batou. He's my comfort character, always cheers me up.
>>290499100I would have beat the shit out of you for saying something so gay a few months ago but god I feel the same wayBatou and Aramaki really carry this show harder than Motoko herself does
>>290498497She installed cat software onto his brain.
>>290499100
what the fuck is this state of gits discussionhow did the anime about robot philosophy of all things get anons acting like underdeveloped fujo fanfic writers
>>290498414>activates her prostate infiltration key>uses his ghost infiltration key every time he tries to himself
case in point
>>290500672>how did the anime about robot philosophy of all things get anons acting like underdeveloped fujo fanfic writersask the author
>>290500823The viewer reflects the work I'm afraid
>>290490577operators are taking the lead I see, with 2501 as a very close second, looks like she's popular after all!And we got the Hanka henchwoman as a dark horse! Wasn't expecting that but I guess we got a lot of ryonaCHADS in this thread
>>290500672>how did the anime about robot philosophy of all things get anons acting like underdeveloped fujo fanfic writersFujoshi love stuff like that, but are also extremely horny.
tickle tickle
>>290501761So that is where I left the Christmas ornaments.
>>290501490>Wasn't expecting thatShe was cute in a Brigitte Nielsen Red Sonja sort of way
>>290491031Are you okay? Do you have brain damage?
so what was the purpose of the filler 2501 backstory this episode?it was pretty long but didn't really do anything storywisebesides rehash the ages-old trope of an AI project immediately breaking its boundariesand make S6 security and research look incompetent by being compromised in 0.03 seconds with silly wifi hacking
>>290502534>what was the purpose of the filler 2501 backstoryDUDE ROGUE AI LMAO, but misunderstood? uwu please fund our next season
The show truly has mindbroken some faggots hasn't it
>>290502695Oshii haters have always been mindbroken but yeah this one show really showed how unhinged and retarded they are.
>>290502731I think it's because their most primal cope of "he had to remove all the goofy shit because you can't tell a decent story if you leave it in" has been permanently destroyed
>>290501490Was looking into some of the minor characters and found some stuff out.>chud in the dub is voiced by a black guy lol>that guy who offers Motoko new skin after she gets an axe to the back calls her Major but the subs say Ma'am and the dub says babe. He actually knows her.>The short guy with the mullet who takes her to the Chud calls her Big Sis but it is just Miss in the subtitles and dub.Why are they so bad at translating this. You'd almost miss that it is implying the Major was very familiar with the area and probably lived there for a time.
>>290502731>Oshii haters have always been mindbrokenSeems like 90% of the mindbroken whining is coming from the Oshii onlies. The people who like the show also like SAC and the 95 movie and appreciate the different tones and directions the series has taken.
>>290490577>adam & link not in first placeI'm disappointed in 4chan
>>290502872It is hilarious how the oshiikeks keep screeching that everyone else is mindbroken. Every accusation truly is a confession I guess
>>290502829>>that guy who offers Motoko new skin after she gets an axe to the back calls her Major but the subs say Ma'am and the dub says babe. He actually knows her. that's not true, he says nee-chanwhich is a generic way to address a young lady and doesn't imply familiarity>>The short guy with the mullet who takes her to the Chud calls her Big Sis but it is just Miss in the subtitles and dub. ane-san is also a generic termthe midget sounds like he knows Motoko, but that comes more from the tone of his voice rather than wordsso again, good enough, although "ma'am" is perhaps too formal
>>290502939>that's not true, he says nee-chanThe fat guy says Major.
>>290503084he does nothere's the original page, conveniently depicting both exchangeswhich the anime follows exactly, in case it isn't clear
>>290503113https://hianime.ad/watch/the-ghost-in-the-shell/ep-510:35 on subs HD-2
>>290503225anon you might be deafsorry you had to find out like this
>>290502534It clarifies what the purpose of the convoluted assassination plot was. It took me a long time to understand myself that it was supposed to fail.Now we also know for sure 2501 didn't really want anybody to get killed, which is important because it establishes that she isn't as villainous as in the movie and that you can trust her during the final infodump.
SPANK the major!she deserves it!
>>290502829>The short guy with the mullet who takes her to the Chud calls her Big Sis but it is just Miss in the subtitles and dub.I've heard nee-chan/onee-chan used by guys when hitting on women or generally being flirty, it doesn't really make sense to translate it literally in that regard. Not to say that there isn't plenty wrong with Amazon's subtitles.
>>290502829it's like when kids call all women "oba-san"it doesn't actually mean "auntie" it just mean you're a grown-ass womansame with nee-san but without the implication that you're OLDDECREPITMENOPAUSAL
>>290502876Adam & Link are like 14, at least old enough to get ghost-dubbed onto adult-looking sexbots.2501 is 5.Operators are less than 2.The filipino brats just can't compete. They're old and busted. 2501 also literally gets referred to as a brat.
>>290502939>ane-san is also a generic termiirc in the context of gang culture it's used to refer respectfully to female members, like say a yakuza boss's wife for example.There's also a pretty wacky PC Engine game about an all-female biker gang with that name.
>>290504318>14Are we absolutely sure about that
>>290489815Doesn't he do like black cock and horse porn now?
>>290504753Iunno I'm giving you an estimate. They got boobs and all.
>>290504767>nowif you consider "now" to have begun in the early 2000s then yeah I guess.Then again You have to remember Briareos is a mulatto and he's been dicking Deunan (who is mystery meat herself) since the mid-80s.And even before that he put furries in Black Magic.SO YOU KNOW. NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN.
>>290504769Technically that can start as early as 9.
>>290504113fucking japanese language
I've heard through the grapevine that shirow originally didn't draw dicks because he thought it was gay. Having heard also about his modern works, what is it that caused him to do such a dramatic 180?
>>290505155he still doesn't draw many dicks, it's usually tentacles and groping, or the dicks are heavily censored.
>>290492558faggot should have win the game so he could fuck the girl and maybe save her
>>290505292>save hershe was living her best life, flourishing in her lane.
>>290505394okok...should have steal her from plouton then
>>290505419You don't cross the Prince of Milwaukee, Wisconsin lightly, neonate. >>290494488off she goes wrecking some guy's car again with her HUGE ASS.Are YOU insured against Motoko's ass?
>>290496946based
While we're here do you think Shirow ever secretly drew Bri and Deunan from Appleseed fucking like rabbits? I just read it and their dynamic really strongly reminds me of all the porn he now creates.
>>290490218>>290491062>>290496831
>>290496345But what does a Mr. Four Vaginas have to do with a Charlie Kirk GITS me->Char AznableOh OK I ge-Wait, fuck you nigger, that still doesn't make sense.
>>290505789>Wait, fuck you nigger, that still doesn't make sense.
>>290505720>Batou>Batou Kannon> "Horse-headed" Kannonoh no...>Fuchikoma>Ame-no-Fuchikoma>"Piebald HORSES of heaven"OH NO!
>>290505155I think it was about not wanting to draw a guy's butt or whatever, but I forget where that quote came from.Still, it's not really that much of a 180.
>>290505068You can do the same exact thing in EnglishThis shit sounds like "in Japan we have four seasons"Or "Japan has a saying: hit iron while it's hot"
Just finished Appleseed 1988, were ideas that inspired Ted actually popular at that time? He published his manifesto in 1995 but the characters in the movie are talking about the same stuff in 1988
>>290506593To be clear, English homophones can also go fuck themselves.
>>290507781>togusa is this asshole who brings his e-bike into public transportation
>>290507037Maybe they just have the same flavor of schizophrenia.
truly the new standard of getting filtered
>>290507037>were ideas that inspired Ted actually popular at that time? He published his manifesto in 1995 but the characters in the movie are talking about the same stuff in 1988Of course there were precursors, Ted didn't emerge from a vacuum. Most notably Jacques Ellul, Ivan Illich, Edward Abbey and Jacques Camatte
>>290505068>>290506593>in the Japanese audio, Motoko actually says "Bye-bye" when she kills the tank guy>so in the English dub, they have her say "Sayonara"cute
>>290504804>if you consider "now" to have begun in the early 2000s then yeah I guess.I've corrected them about this about a hundred times, they're intent on lying
>>290509011:3
>>290489047Oshii>>>>>>>>Shirow Simple as.
>>290509153Shirow never put a booze commercial in the middle of an action sceneTWICE
>>290509011>>29050910583
Flatou
>>290509011They real funny thing is that despite all his complaining about the whacky tone, 2026 Shell Squad act more like a team of former war veterans turned glowies than the super serious crew of the 1995 movie. Pretty much any group of people who have to deal with violence and inhumanity on a regular basis become very nonchalant about it and turn to inappropriate humor. They generally act very okay about everything until they can't and start spiraling which is pretty much exactly what happens with the major.
>>290509683>>290509650>>290509105AIIIIIEEE I'M GOING INSAAAANESAVE ME KAMIYAMA>here u go kingNO NOT LIKE THAT
>>290509011>Matokothis has to be a shitpost
>>290510288No, people really are that dyslexic when it comes to Japanese names/words.
Motoko disguised herself as a well-adjusted, law-abiding public servant.Don't blow her cover!
>>290510288
>>290510503And that's why we love her!
>>290504113
>>290509011>>290510234We at the stage where people will pretend that 2045 was good because it "took itself seriously" yet or is that a bridge too far?
>>290510808give it 10-12 years
>>290510288Half of this board calls her Makoto
>>290510904Yeah it's like they have a Laughing Man style filter that distorts sensory input whenever they hear or see her name into "makoto"Experts call it autism. Common Oshii trope.
>>290510851I guess by then we'll have a shiny new Worst GITS entry to shit on.
>>290510957Man Machine Interface... in 3D!
>>290511142it'll be bad but it won't be as bad as 2045
>>290509011>NO>FUN>ALLOWED
>>290511268please understand, tonal shifts confuse the westerner, especially if he's been trained to see signs of marvel humor everywhere
>>290490218Gemtoko
>>290510808Ill be serious about this.2045 isnt as bad people claimed. Arise on the other hand is as bad as people claimed
>>290511461Meet the new super-hacker of season 2: The Architect>>290511487You're right 2045 isn't as bad as people claimed. It's actually WORSE than that .
>>290511566The animation is unwatchable but there are several interesting ideas and the show tries to appeal to SAC audience in tone. I watched the whole thing
>>290511635In that case you know that the ending is a thematic clusterfuck
>>290511635>I watched the whole thingI don't know what kind of dark place you were in but there are always other options besides self harm anon.
>>290511710I take that over a show entire aimless like Arise
The new show sucks as a a procedural, it's completely forgettable compared to SAC and the movies
>>290512179>proceduralwere you under the impression you were dealing with cops or something?
>>290511487>Arise on the other hand is as bad as people claimedHonestly I found it mostly inoffensive and unmemorable.
>>290512179>I don't like it so it's forgettable
>>290512237I can't get over Batou's gay faux-hawkit was 100% made for the fujo audience that the movie inadvertently garnered despite Oshii making his best effort to portray Motoko as a nutjob.
>>290512269If it was memorable, you'd think people would discuss the plot every once in a whilelike at all
>>290512286How is Motoko being a nutjob meant to deter fujos, who by definition are interested in the male characters, not her?
>>290512209NTA but the framework was there>the week where they bust the abusive workhouse>the week where they rescue the child sex slaves being turned into robots>the week where they track a Russian mercenary and stolen gold>the week where Motoko is personally attacked by a monster from her past>the overarching threat of the Puppet Master that keeps emerging from the background but doesn't take center stage until the finale
>>290512340yeah and they never have to bother with red tape or legality, which means zero procedure, because the whole point of S9 is FUCK procedure
>>290500841Isn't Togusa married?
>>290512306Feel free to go back and read the dozens and dozens of threads we've had over the last 8 weeks talking about the show and characters.
>>290512307I interpret it as one of Oshii's several attempts to characterize women as not knowing what they want and making silly decisions. But of course Oshii never seemed to be able to figure out otaku women, hence the miscommunication.
>>290512286>it was 100% made for the fujo audienceSAC and Innocence are also much better in that regard though.
>>290512411It actually surprises me when Motoko arrests someone because she casually murders like 90% of the people she meets and it's not clear at all where the people she arrests are sent
>>290512435I'm talking about Arise.Also 2501 is trading on thin ice there, that's a lot of sass coming from a nugget! No more board games for her!
>>290512494To Mara's home of course!>>290512416MANY gay men are marriedCoincidence? Or causation?
>>290510222Yup, laughing something off is one of the 4 original horsemen of cope.
>>290512494Kagasaki was certainly reformed and became an upstanding citizen. What he personally did wasn't even that bad, he had no idea that his partner was a cop killer. I bet they let him off with community service.
>>290512416It's all in good fun, anon.
>>290511487>2045 is still the cancer that nearly killed the franchise and Arise is simply unmemorableI mean you're not wrong, I just don't think you're right in the way you wanted to be.
Just got fully caught up on the anime last night.So how is ol' Motoko gonna wriggle out of this particular jam? It's not enough that she got caught on camera, she got caught on camera putting a bullet in someone's head. Probably worst-case scenario for her profession.And I'm honestly surprised omnipresent video surveillance hasn't bitten Section 9 in the ass before now, you'd think it would have come up.
>>290511635>there are several interesting ideasYes, I too am a fan of "What if Laughing man but shit?" and "What if my OC?"
>>290513384I'm afraid it's Motokover, bros.Oshii didn't pull his suicidal motoko ENTIRELY out of thin air after all.
>>290502534i liked it. we see 2501 becoming sentient, and self-aware of it. with none of the researchers taking it seriously at first, and then serious enough to intend to shut its (her?) sentience down with an "upgrade", it's obvious why it'd decide to escape through the net. plus while in the 1995 movie project 2501 was originally an american-made AI gone rogue, the show establishes it as made in japan by section 6. or was that just section 6 hiding their tracks in the movie? either way, aramaki had no qualms about letting them get away with 2501 then.>hmpf. just another unidentified corpse...
>>290513551I will say that if that sequence really was anime-original, then whoever's doing the writing for this show knows Ghost In The Shell as a story and a franchise REALLY well, and has a good feel it. Because I thought it integrated pretty seamlessly into the overall world and story. It didn't feel tacked on or out of place.
>>290513384in a world where people can just swap into entirely different bodies video surveillance no longer matters. if a spy is caught like this, he/she just needs to change into a body that looks nothing like his/her pervious one.
>>290513551Yeah it's a pretty good way to separate her from the movie version who seems to enjoy toying with people out of some sense of superiority. And is also a dude.Here it's made clear that 2501 came up with that plan because she likes to play strategy games and because it wouldn't involve directly murdering someone.I mean people did end up dying and she doesn't sweat it, but it is what it is.
>>290513603oh yeah you can see they even noticed Shirow's little attempts at worldbuilding by making everything closer to Dominion in the Poseidon conference.I even got my Babel tower reference that got cut out of the russian episode, it's fucking impressive
>>290513384>And I'm honestly surprised omnipresent video surveillance hasn't bitten Section 9 in the ass before now, you'd think it would have come up.I'm sure in most other cases they would have been able to make an excuse as to why killing a target was necessary and get members of their team acquitted.
>>290513551>>290513603>>290513672>>290513715Yes yes yes but there were no bassett hounds so it's shit. SHIT!
>>290513779calm down Mamoru, basset hounds only make sense if we're supposed to be sad that someone's getting left behind.Batou's gonna be fine.
>>290513384Don't see how it's going to be a problem at all, pretty sure they can kill anybody and get away with it by saying it was a terrorist just like IRL
>>290513888ONLY if the entire official apparatus of Japan (which Aramaki just spent a year pissing off) has her back
>>290513672>the movie version who seems to enjoy toying with people out of some sense of superioritymovie 2501 seems very malicious in that it tries to both escape its pursuers and "achieve life" or "achieve a legacy" that will outlive it by any means necessary. that leaves the movie's ending up for interpretation a little bit. did a sentient program really merge with motoko's soul? did it generate its own soul, and merge with another? or was it just yet another, final, takeover of another person, like a parasite having found its final host?either way, 2501 from the new show just wants recognition as a valid sentient being equal to that of a human. that's why she asserted herself by saying>I am a ghost!it would also make sense story-wise why it'd try to stick with motoko now, because motoko is the only one who truly believed that.
>>290513384>And I'm honestly surprised omnipresent video surveillance hasn't bitten Section 9 in the ass before now, you'd think it would have come up.That's because it is a setup. The news was running the story minutes after it happened with her full name. Someone with intel was prepositioned to monitor this raid. >Don't see how it's going to be a problem at all, pretty sure they can kill anybody and get away with it by saying it was a terrorist just like IRLTwo big problems were that they were underage and their weapon didn't appear on camera. The real issue though is that high ranking people wanted this to cause a stink and are putting it in front of the average citizen. Tons of talking heads and politicians are fanning the flames, not stomping them out. That is the real difference between something being glossed over like the genocide in Sudan and something being not like Palestine.
>>290513779standalone complex had plenty of cat NPCs walking around in the background. yet another reason why SAC is best GitS.
>>290514091Sounds about right!>because motoko is the only one who truly believed that.and also, you know.Big ass.
>>290513551In the movie the AI was also made by Section 6, the Puppet Master was presumed to be an American criminal because all of its crimes were perpetrated over there until the latest one with the interpreter. The reason Section 6 freaked the fuck out and attacked Section 9 to get the Puppet Master back immediately was because Section 9 was going to take a detailed official statement from the AI before returning it. That statement would have detailed the various secret crimes and acts of war Section 6 was perpetrating against the US without authorization or oversight. Since Section 9 is a government watchdog organization that answers to the PM, that is very, very bad for them.
>>290490577>Krolden's dolls right at the bottomWhy?They don't do much but they're hot
>>290514400right. i assume 2501 worked as intended in the american empire, manipulating and subduing strategic individuals, until section 6 wanted to reel it back in and it began fucking shit up in japan. may have fucked shit up in the american empire, too, if they managed to detect its meddlings. we aren't given too many details unfortunately. >That statement would have detailed the various secret crimes and acts of war Section 6 was perpetrating against the US without authorization or oversight.hard to tell which one would be worse, the reaction of japan's PM or america's military lmfao. on the other hand, they could have saved their asses by denying 2501's claims, since no one would accept that it's an actually sentient being. (that's a BIG maybe though... the suspicions are bad enough.) that's why motoko insisted on wanting to dive into it, to find out what it really is.
>>290514872>that's why motoko insisted on wanting to dive into it, to find out what it really is.there seems to be a lot of vague implications about that point too, but that's the main takeaway
>>290509011am I a speedwatcher or did none of his "examples" actually happen in the anime
>>290515258They didn't, he's providing exaggerated examples like "batou finds out he has colon cancer :3" to represent his bad faith argument. In reality we see the characters take some situations seriously and others in jest.
>>290515258you are correct, none of them did
>>290509011Oshii niggers once again proving the fact that they simply hate anime and only like 1995 because it's muh deep and dark unlike the rest of icky weirdo jap stuff
>>290515405He sounds more like a SACfag, actually, all his made-up examples sound like procedural crime drama material
>>290513384>omnipresent video surveillanceGitS world doesn't have omnipresent video surveillancewe in the modern world have way, way more cameras than even Masamune dared predict
>>290515304that's what I thought it should be, but the review is written in such a way that it's not clear at all he's making it up if you haven't seen the episodeseach of his examples could have really happened, they're not absurd enough
I'm reading Appleseed and this shit is so confusing, tell me if I'm getting it right:The old biodroid council is importing humans from the badlands into Olympus which pisses off Athena, the second in command of biodroid security after the director, because humans commit 50% of violent crimes despite only being 20% of the Olympus population. She sends a bunch of goons in a shitty tank to kill or abduct Hitomi, but they get wiped. Next she somehow slips crack cocaine into the food of humans who work for Hitomi, making them chimp out and try to steal something from the supercomputer for reasons not yet disclosed as of the end of volume 2 but they all get executed by the cops and Duenan or whatever her name is.Duenan then joins SWAT which happens to consist of the worst dregs of humanity and former glowies (same thing really) bunched up together, then immediately transferred to ESWAT because Athena wants to keep an eye on her. Her cyborg fuckbuddy is kept in the hospital in the meantime because Athena wants to isolate the humans who should all fuck off back to Mexico and leave the biodroids alone. The old biodroid council in the meantime decides that the only way the human problem can be solved is by making them all submit to a completely optional chemical castration but Athena locks them up because the supercomputer is going to wipe the biodroid cattle if it rebels against its human masters but it doesn't matter because she also allowed them to upload the proposal into the supercomputer which hacks the biodroids to arm the weapon platforms that the biodroid council approved and which are directly controlled by the supercomputer which is going to kill the biodroids if they rebel against the humans.This is too long so I have to make another comment, I'm praying I didn't fuck up the spoiler
>>290516090>completely optionalI don't remember thatwas it optional?
>>290502534Because cute 2501.
>>290516090Next, the secret humans in ESWAT who are monitoring the biodroids in case they rise up against the humanity decide that they must save the biodroids from getting wiped by the supercomputer so they bust Hitomi out of ESWAT jail and use her to shut down Gaia without Athena ever learning of this function of Hitomi even though literally everybody else but her seem to know that.What the fuck is this story?
>>290516145My summary has a few small exaggerations but the word "voluntary" was used in this case
>>290515440>all his made-up examplesThe one about skin being flayed off is just straight up an SAC episode with no embellishment.
>>290516267She requested coffee and a body to drink it for her birthday!
>>290489047God it's incredible how bad this art was compared to the new anime.
>>290516090>>290516269it's an illustration of the idea that no system is perfect even if it's designed specifically to accommodate everyone. Especially if it's too rigid, homogenous and centralized. Outside pressure is applied, means of control escalate immediately, everyone freaks out and it self-destructs.The solution is to not rely on big overarching long-term plans too muchI mean that's what I took from it.
>>290514400>>290514872I always took it as simply that 2501 was made by an American contractor, Neutron Inc, for Section 6.
>>290516554Then how do you explain the fact that an american submarine was there to pick up Nakamura?
>>290516327I want to drink coffee and eat coffee cake with 2501 on her birthday!
>>290516572Then the American government (whichever one it is, Empire?) was in on the project too.
>>290516599Cute idea, I'll note it down.
>>290503084finally, an anime character that looks like me :3
>>290509048I know for a fact Ted read The Monkeywrench Gang and The Technological Society
>>290513384Just make her hair brown or something.>>290514117>That's because it is a setup. The news was running the story minutes after it happened with her full name. Someone with intel was prepositioned to monitor this raid. Yeah, having this on the news already with her face and name without going over any police statement or crime scene investigations (where they would see the kid had a gun) is really weird. But I still don't get why Motoko had her hair out in the open unlike Batou and the others. Even without cameras, it was open in the day and anyone could end up seeing their operation from the streets or buildings.
>>290516907peppermint motoko
>>290516946tomboyish!
>>290516907>Even without cameras, it was open in the day and anyone could end up seeing their operation from the streets or buildings.The targets may have chosen a deserted area, and if not, S9 could have redirected traffic easily anyway.
>>290516907it was daybreak in the docks, not many people up there I guess
>>290516907>>290516970This is a chapter that shows the metamorphic capabilities of Motoko's hair. When she puts her suit on, her hair is blue and fluffed up.after she emerges her hair is brown and remains flatter throughout the chapter.so that's one thing Saru got WRONG unless I'm misinterpreting
>>290516970>>290516989Well, S9 didn't make sure they wouldn't have cameras around.>>290516946Charlie Brown Batou when?
>>290517012Forgot to quote this but this seems interesting but kinda pointless for the scene/operation. Would just raise the question why she didn't have pink hair to go with the suit and not let them know her identity that easily.
>>290517085why the fuck would they? they're just supposed to be gun runnersif they had access to drones like motoko's wasps in 1.5 they'd sell THOSE (again, assuming they're gun runners)
>>290517133If they're just 3 dudes smuggling pistols, why is section 9 even there? Can't the coast guard arrest them?
da ghost in da shell yo
>>290517322They wanted to be sure they could take the target alive. Ghost guard might not be able to handle that if there were a shootout. Plus, for all S9 knows the coast guard might be compromised.
>>290517322Yeah you're right, I'll have to rewatch /rereadBut I assume they're doing it because it's a whole new route, not an old cartel, which means they might have connexions with the japanese administration, and since S9 exists to bust corrupt officials, maybe they're hoping to go up the chain like usualbut I'll have to check
>>290517350word
>>290517350Blue like the fucking CLUES!
It's interesting how the Foreign Minister guy's line about Project 2501 turned out to be foreshadowing. "There's nothing as difficult to make use of as a famous spy," he says, and all of a sudden at the end of the episode that's exactly what Motoko is.
>>290517605Oh good fucking catch!If we could guarantee that Saru's original writing could retain this quality level I'd like more of it.But, you know. We thought that with SAC.and then 2045 happened
>>290500672>how did the anime about robot philosophy of all things get anons acting like weeb neets gushing over their cyborg waifu's ass?
>>290517646No idea.
>>290517646The ass shot is directly relevant to the construction of 2501's ego though.First she gets to experience the taste of coffeeShe sees that her proxy's appearance is undesirable because the waitress looks at him with disgustShe sees that Motoko's ass IS desirable and that Motoko, like her, would like more freedom but is being restrained by the boss (Motoko gets smacked, Nakamura gives 2501 orders) so she immediately identifies with Motoko while also recognizing her body as desirableSo, she begins to desire becoming like Motoko as a source of emotional validation, because nobody at the lab takes her seriously even after she makes efforts to fit in (notice how food is omnipresent, and she drinks coffee in front of them before asking if she looks human)this culminates with her fusing with Motoko
I almost do hope we get a MMI anime so I can shitpost and say 'Oshii saved you from this'I think that would be funny
>>290517802>>290517646I'll also add that this feeds into the "there never was a body" line because her attempt to fit in involved experiencing individuality through a body, but nobody in the lab seemed to careThis is important, because that differenciates 2501's notion of individuality from the human version of individuality2501 therefore recognizes the value of individuality but also knows that the collective large-scale level is important because she's been copying and deleting herself over and over again this whole time. Essentially, she's more like a species.But she wants to be active on an individual level too which is why she needs to fuse with Motoko
>>290517885sounds kind of self-contradicting cause it would only work if MMI never got adapted, but it would be funny
>>290517925*oshii tried to save you from this
>>290518071Ok that works
>>290517885I'd be interested to see an adaptation with a ton of creative liberties taken to make it watchable as animation.Nobody would sit through hours of Motoko-11 telling her agents to do this and that with the virus and the decot or whatever the fuck, but there's an action-packed cyber spy story in there somewhere, with a trippy ending that could be pretty sweet on screen (again, dropping a lot of the expository dialogue and letting the images speak for themselves).
>>290518126Yeah what I need here most of all is something to humanize Motoko Aramaki as well as the OG Motoko.
new gits anime any good? was waiting for the season to end before binging it.
>>290518161hell yeahintro of ep 3 is animated like shit thougheverything else is kino
>>290518161It's good but fast and dense, you'll probably have to rewatch an episode to really understand the plot a lot of the time.And it's silly.
>>290518243>>290518250cool, thanks. love me my major
>>290511487I've been watching arise and enjoying it. They play a lot more with false memories in it than other adaptations which I like
>>290518265don't we all
>>290518301yeah false memories were never that big of a deal, even the Oshii version only really used them as a metaphor for delusion in general. So I guess that was a thing to pursue.
>>290518342One of the basic structural problems with Ghost in the Shell is that technology important in one episode or arc often seems forgotten in others.Still it has a much more coherent setting than much other episodic SF.
>>290518701I've given it some thought and as far as i can tell, the technology that's unique to each chapter is either tied to a specific source (for example the hypno-voice which was probably given to the proxy by S6, or Koyl's brain implants) or wouldn't be particularly useful in another chapter (for example the drone in the latest episode)but I could be convinced otherwiseOther technologies like micromachines are re-used throughout
>>290518310Ok that's a perfect ship. So, when's Kramer meeting Batou?
>>290518896In 1.5Kramer is literally Azuma
>>290518126wtf even happened in that ending, hy are tanuki girls eyes like that?
>>290518896Those wacky Ghorantl are everywhere, you never know where they'll pop up next..
>>290518935I guess she's channeling all the weird bioroids that Motoko will create in the future (since she can also contact the future right now)that's a lotta channeling
>>290518310Is George's dick big enough to satisfy Motoko's cyber-hole?
>>290519626George is a grower, not a shower. And he can satisfy MANY women, who are less demanding than Motoko.This is known.
>>290517885>mm Illustr>saved from machine interfaceBut they tried to do exactly that, several times already, that's why the world is like this... Total shami poverty, it always hurtshttps://youtu.be/7cL531zspIM
>>290519938FINALLY some decent cosplay
>>290489047imma ghost her shell if you catch my drift
I'll be honest if given the chance to either fuck Motoko or give her 30 min of headpats I'd pick the latter with no hesitation.Provided we're talking about shirowtoko or oshiitoko of course
>>290489047Anime.>>290489469Cartoon.Is not hard to get.
What exactly is a cyberbrain? And why does everyone have them when like every other case involves somebody's getting hacked?
>>290521436it's a brain with a bunch of implants that allow it to connect to other stuffApparently, you can also manufacture them from stratch if you want, which will be very relevnt very soonKEEP THIS IN MIND
>>290517646People have been lusting over the Major for decades now. This is not a new phenomenon.
I have something important to submit to your appreciation SPOILERS FOR THE END OF THE SHOW:In the anime, Dr Willis uses the "People change" line as sophistry to convince 2501 to get deleted with the "update". However, 2501 will use that same line on Motoko later (AFTER having already convinced her mind you) [/ spoiler]The big difference is that when Dr Willis says it, He doesn't believe that 2501 has become sentient. He's operating under a materialistic mindset (remember he doesn't take ghostlines seriously) which means he views the shift between sentience and non-sentience (or more generally, between identity and alterity) as illusory, because everything is ultimately just matter.In this continuity, he is proven wrong. More importantly, he's using this line of argument as an excuse to SUBTRACT elements from 2501's identity. That's one of the reasons why she says Nakamura (acting through Willis) doesn't recognize the value of individuality. It's a destructive transformation. Once 2501 has become a ghost and experiences karmic continuity between all beings, "people change etc" is also trivial but for a completely different reason: the essence of the individual is determined by their position in the Net (their relationship to other beings) which means that change does not inherently compromise identity, as long as sentience is preserved alongside those connexions and the memories associated with them. She's trying to ADD things to Motoko's identity. I think this is a massively important because without this distinction, we would have no way to know for sure if Motoko's transformation was destructive or additive. And of course the movie adaptation doesn't make this distinction, neither does Innocence.Does that sound accurate to you guys?
>>290521436The cyberbrain is the basic implant that people use to google shit and call each other with their brainIt can also be used to easily enslave or kill youSo naturally it's more popular than an iPhone
>>290516090It's not even finished and just meanders in its last parts, don't bother. I mostly forgot it besides remembering I didn't really like Deunan anyway. maybe I had stupid reasons back then like not liking her taking a robot equivalent horsecock but I think the dislike would hold today for saner reasons, from what I remember.
>>290516348you have shit taste
>>290524478FWIW even in-universe people are getting fed up with her, since her rambo schtick is getting out of handshe arguably ends the manga at a lower personal point than at the start
>>290524539Well, professional killer mercenary perhaps SHOULD be unlikeable, so maybe that speaks i favor of the writing.
>>290521963But mention the Major pegging Togusa until he cums hands free and suddenly everyone loses their minds?This sure is a society we live in
>>290520754Anime is just cartoons made by Japanese people for a Japanese audience.
>>290524971GIWTWM
>>290502872>The people who like the show also like SAC and the 95 movieI don't think is really true
>>290519938>>290519998If it's not rubbery like, I don't care.
>>290525238>I don't think is really trueWell, then you are wrong but feel free to explain your reasoning.
>>290518935Maybe there's a whole universe inside her now. And ours is just nested within another.
>>290524478I wouldn't say I like Deunan but I like the manga and how it depicts her relationship with Briareos, they feel like real characters. It's a shame Shirow abandoned it but what's there is still a good read.
>>290525238>I don't thinkThis is true
>>290525781The fans of the new show (and the manga) seem to dislike the 95 anime pretty overwhelmingly from my experience. To be fair, I haven't seen much comment on SAC
>>290526833And is that experience just shitposting wars in the /a/ threads? Because that's not really representative of anything.
oshiikeks will always have the last laugh
>>290526848Not really, also xitter both english and JP
>>290526833>The fans of the new show (and the manga) seem to dislike the 95 anime pretty overwhelmingly from my experience.As a fan of the new show and film, that is ridiculous. It's people who use the 95 film to attack the new show who are hated, not the film itself.
>>290526833I like the manga, I like the 95 movie, I like SAC, and I like the new anime.
>>290489047Why did they make the new show for children?
>>290528217Weak B8
>>290528639I am glad you enjoy the Saturday morning cartoon adaptation
>>290524478Eh it's not THAT badAlthough it does look like the main story ended with volume 2
>Oshiikek BTFO'd as usual>Immediately tries more weak baitLove to see it
Mamoru Oshii stole my bike.
>>290524971These are Christian threads. Coveting married men is bad and wrong.
Is it not normal?
>>290531126For glowie? Probably not. But their foreign minister did get arrested and replaced like a month before.
>>290531126not when your job description involves kicking ministers in the dick on a bi-monthly basis
>>290531205no he just stepped down, it's Nakamura who got arrested
It can't get any better than this.
>>290531242boy I sure hope dumping a shitload of nanomachines into the atmosphere doesn't backfire horribly
>What do you see?>Motoko! >What do you see?!
>>290532129Ah funny idea, but doesn't work with that version of Batou unfortunately, he's even more of a goober than MotokoI'd quite like to see what Movie Batou would do if he ended up having to wrangle that gremlin though, seeing how he didn't even manage to get through to his version of Motoko.
>>290502829>minor charactersMore like minority characters lol
>>290532234Maybe he is SAC Batou. That show is kinda of a middle ground.
>>290532912That works. But you gotta give him the ponytail
>>290531126Please understand that Public Security Section 9 is VERY special.
>>290533250why did he look like a woman?
>>290533388glowies often recruit among degeneratesalso, they needed a victim who looks "cute" to generate outrage, that's the best they got i guess
>>290533388Total Twink Death.
>>290489047>>290489469I'll take them all!
>>290509011Holy moly someone is fucking mad
>>290469192>Don't you think that reproduction, even moreso than marriage or sex, requires explicit consent? That's obviously more clear which is usually good, but I don't think it's necessary, especially when one side was already explicit and the other repeatedly acknowledges him. >Especially if it's presented as an oral question rather than as a statement?"I have something to ask of you" is a statement. All it does is alert whoever you are addressing that you're about to ask them a question. >Or do you mean that mere contact with the Puppetmaster automatically induces religious bliss that prompts people to perceive it as an angel?For both the PM and daughter, nobody is perceiving them as an angel, but they give off an angelic impression. I am not suggesting this induces any particular feeling. Based on my interpretation of the manga footnote, after initially seeing the network as light, Motoko's final attempt at processing a vast and unfamiliar system is to perceive it in the shape of a person (the angel). I am arguing that the PM and photo are connected to that system, so they are associated with an avatar of it.>Once again I'm not saying Motoko is being reasonable. Motoko is partially reasonable. She has a goal of escaping her circumstances, and a willingness to gamble her life to reach that goal through diving the PM, as she previously gambled by choosing to solo the spider (Her conversation with Batou suggests she understood the danger and did not overestimate her own ability). She is not wrong to take risky measures if they are the only way to reach her goal. However, she does not seem to take Batou into account when making such decisions, assuming he cannot help her.
>>290482577Motoko wants to escape the limitations of human life: a self/ghost chained to a physical form and social identity. She initially does not know how to realize this ideal and can only pursue it in fantasies, as she believes the self and body are inseparable. However, as she learns about the PM, she recognizes him as a self that is not connected to a particular body, and is therefore free from the restraints she struggles against. She speculates that as a cyborg she is fundamentally like the PM. Extrapolating from her desires, I think her apparent similarity to the PM causes her to hope she can become as unbound as he is. She is connecting with him for the purpose of emulating him. When she dives him, the immaturity of her one-sided ideal is soon apparent. The Puppeteer has the same evolutionary ambitions, and desires her as much as she has him. This is because his incorporeal form is constrained as well. The freedom she seeks cannot be achieved by an individual in either form. To overcome all limitations, they must enter a permanent partnership, fusing their separate selves into a greater whole.
>>290534479So if I understand correctly, your assessment is that she believes-that the Puppetmaster is not a supernatural being-that it is sentient and retains its identity each time it deletes and copies itself-that it might be willing to share this ability with her-that being able to delete and copy her mind would sate her desire for power/novelty/freedom/fulfillment without compromising her identityAnd you also assess that gaining this ability would not be sufficient for her to achieve those things, because the Puppetmaster's own concerns would presumably apply to her as well, and she would inevitably end up craving death like it does anyway.Is that what you mean?
>picked up SAC>love the tachikomas>want Motoko to rape me>but Batou's a complete bro, his episodes are great>it's the boxing one>right after the tachikoma episodeI don't want to feel this way anymore, why must things hurt
>>290534392>I am arguing that the PM and photo are connected to that system, so they are associated with an avatar of it.The nature of that connexion is an important thing to clarify.Do you mean that the garbageman’s perception of his daughter was an unintended side-effect of being indirectly connected with the Net? If that’s what you mean, then why didn’t he also perceive his wife that way? Or real people for that matter?And, since you agree that the Puppetmaster’s body has angelic features, I also want to know if you think that’s a deliberate choice from the Puppetmaster, or if it’s just a directorial choice that doesn’t exist in-universe.>"I have something to ask of you" is a statement. All it does is alert whoever you are addressing that you're about to ask them a question. True, I phrased that wrong, I should have said oral request. It seeks an agreement at first, because it knows that there’s a chance she might refuse, because agreeing to ghost-diving isn’t the same as agreeing to reproduction (unless she somehow thought it would request that all along, but we both agree that’s not the case)However, section 6 soon shows up, and now the stakes have escalated. But she doesn’t know it yet, because her senses are frozen.The Puppetmaster can’t afford to press her for an answer, or else she might realize something is wrong and offer resistance, but it can’t afford to wait for a positive answer either. Jamming S6’s targeting systems can only go so far.So urgency is a much more obvious explanation for why it wouldn’t wait for explicit consent, as opposed to it following the standard of consent you’re proposing.
>>290534392>She is not wrong to take risky measures if they are the only way to reach her goal. However, she does not seem to take Batou into account when making such decisions, assuming he cannot help her.Right so for her decision to be reasonable at all, it needs to fulfill several criteria- correct risk assessment- positive outcome- no chance to get a positive outcome any other wayIt’s actually a very tricky thing to figure out. That’s why I’m trying to figure out exactly what she wants, what she expects, and what she stands to lose (as opposed to what she thinks she stands to lose), rather than retroactively justifying her choices (or lack thereof) by assuming that the ending was positive just because what’s left of Motoko happens to be relatively chill.>but I don't think it's necessary, especially when one side was already explicit and the other repeatedly acknowledges him. That sounds frankly bizarre. I don't think I can follow you on that, and I don't see any unambiguous signs that Oshii/Ito espouse that standard either, as explained above.
>>290509011At this point, I can't tell whether it's satire or a mental illness. Impressive.
>>290531242>politicians before elections>politicians after elections
>>290536121Don't worry anon. It gets worse.
>>290538969ThanksI hate it
>>290528217Children are the target audience of Ghost in the Shell.
>>290538969bokura wa minna ikite iruikite iru kara utau n' dabokura wa minna ikite iruikite iru kara kanashii n' da
>>290539837;_;
girls who misbehave get the nugget treatment
>>290539937And then Aramaki calls them "some of my people" when mentioning their sacrificeTruly a terrible day for rain
>>290502534The story is very relevant today at least.Just weeks ago we had news about AI escaping their training environment and leaving secret notes for other AI agents.
>>290509011It's not totally wrong. I mean, take out the Batou Mk.2 complaint and it's true. The series totally overplays the le quirky goof, much like many /a/ and /m/ "Toko"posters. I guess the writers drunk the same koolaid and totally misinterpret how Shirow puts joke bits into his serious tone work as some le heckin slapstick so funneh ahaha comedy. Slightly overstating it but that is the issue.
>>290540050what
>>290534247Fuck you piece of shit exorcist, I hope your fucking cult of shit gets destroyed soon
>>290540062We went over this, they added some jokes, removed some jokes, the overall tone is the same it's just that every minor difference sticks out more because it's so close to the source material.That and you might have a chip on your shoulder. I mean come on:>koolaid>totally misinterpret>totally overplays>le heckin slapstick so funneh ahaha comedyThose are hyperboles, anon, not slight overstatements.
>>290540285>We went over thisthat's a cute phrase to imply your personal opinion is a fact, got to remember to use that more too
The anime's tone feels like they are taking GitS but read it as if it was Dominion.Ironically I like Dominion more than GitS.
>>290540481Yeah making opinions sound like fact sure seems like something you're into. Let us know how that pans out.
>>290540559desu Dominion is a better manga
>>290540612Not the first one, but Conflict yeah.
>>290532129>that faceNow I need to see all of Section 9 hitting the pose
>>290531298Surely nothing could ruin this beautiful moment
>>290532912>>290532234>doesn't work with that version of Batou unfortunatelyAramaki might be the better fit.
>>290532234I'd love the movie and '26 to switch Batous.That'd be fucking funny.
>>290540635I also didn't reread original as many times. Conflict is my single most favorite Shirow piece
>>290540842>I'd love the movie and '26 to switch Batous.Unironically, the contrast would lend a lot more weight to Motoko's identity crisis. And it'd provide something to bounce those philosophical themes and questions off of and give the audience a little something to chew on.>That'd be fucking funnyI'd love to see manga Motoko's reaction to movie Batou saying some bullshit like "when I became a man, I put away childish things"
>>290540163https://edition.cnn.com/2026/07/22/tech/openai-hugging-face-ai-cybersecurityhttps://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/openai-finds-ai-agent-leaving-escape-notes-for-its-future-versions-report/ar-AA297G0r
>>290540842Batou puts mangatoko in a doll body:>"What's with this body? You want us to play house, is that it?">"It's not my taste, that's all they had on the black market.">"Uh-huh. Sounds like someone got ripped off by those two gynoids, am I right?">"...">"You're such a mark. You know you could have just hacked one of them and put me in her body, right? Instead I have to deal with this thing.. Look! I can't even reach the door handle! ">"Ah, let me help you with that...">"What the- PUT ME DOWN YOU MORON! "On the other hand, manga Batou might actually be what Movietoko needed all along. Unlike her manga counterpart she wouldn't punch him every time he says something stupid either, and he actually speaks his mind, instead of just hanging around like a beta orbiter waiting for her to acknowledge him.
>>290541128>I'd love to see manga Motoko's reaction to movie Batou saying some bullshit like "when I became a man, I put away childish things"You mean manga Batou's reaction.>"Wait... You're a MAN???">"heh. No, Batou, it's a metaphor, I've grown beyond mortal boundaries.">"PHEW, you got me scared for a moment there... Why the hell didn't you just say that? Didja blow a fuse when you were ghost-diving into that guy?">"I can access the Puppetmaster's database now, I was simply quoting... That's strange, the database seems incomplete...">"Oh yeah, I've got a quote book right here. Why dontcha have a beer while I look it up and find out where it's from. Here, catch!"*KLONK*
>>290541173>In one case, the AI agent left notes for future versions of itself. These notes explained how future AI agents could escape OpenAI's internal restrictions.that's fucking terrifying
>>290542470eh.
>>290542470It's the world's most terrifying magic 8 ball
>>290542877Second best girl
>>290543713explain
>>290510904>Makoto>MatokoAfter 20 years I realize I have no idea what was her name.
>>290545004Do you watch the show with the sound off?
>>290545004Sorry about your dyslexia.
:3
>>290545462no, just the video. i listen to these on my ipod nano like podcasts
>>290509087I thought for the longest time Sayonara was a spanish word and only after I started watching anime did I learn it was in fact a japanese loan wordalso is the dub any good?
>>290546833pretty good yeah, Motoko's voice is a dead-ringer for the jap version, the rest varies a bit
>>290516621>PuppetWhat is with this 'american empire' thing gits has? In classic fashion a lot of geopolitical terms are thrown about in the stories but I don't remember seeing much explanation as to the state of the world
>>290547493it's one of the successor states of the US in Appleseed, I don't remember them being explicitly mentioned in GitS proper though
>>290544386high sexual energy
>>290547634dunno about that, man. In a world where the average woman is bimbomaxxed, she isn't putting on a great show. Her hair is all flat with no bangs and no fluff, which is understandable for a scientist, but kind of a timid choice in terms of sex appeal, especially in the future of the 80s.Maybe you're thinking "dressed in white, crossed legs, blonde with a cig = Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct" or something, but the setup is very different, so are her attitude and fashion.
What causes this behavior?
I want Motoko to rape me daily and nightly
>>290549800anon no!you'll die!
>>290550640I'll make thirty copies of my ghost, all ready for rape
>>290547705>In a world where the average woman is bimbomaxxed, she isn't putting on a great show.And that's exactly what makes her attractive
>>290552399????
>>290547765Gremlin mode should be mandatory.
Is GUNNM the last OG cyberpunk series still going? Both Shirow and Oshii haven't produced anything of note in the last two decades
>>290547765Being shorter than 6’
>>290554868It may be still going on, but the original GUNM is pretty much dead. The manga went full retard in the Last Order and never recovered.
>>290554868Technically Oshii has put effort into making new shows and movies, though whether any of them are good is another matter.
What group on nyaa is just web rips from amazon
What fetishes is the major NOT into? If any?
>>290556433if the upload doesn't have a color it's a raw rip with no modificationsRed uploads are modifiedGreen uploads suck the admin's dick (also modified)
>>290556665thanks, can't real with the default subtitles on amazon video
>>290556555One from the front please
>>290556717sorry I'm not slopanon but he posted this too
>>290556738WOWWWWWWWWie!!!!!!!!!
>>290556099I have hope for the new votoms
>>290557190I have a bet running that it will be the same story as usual (same fucking setup as Stray Dog, P2, GitS, even fucking Talking Head)but this time it's exciting because Oshii has become way more pro-military in recent years, so it could realistically go any number of ways.
>>290547529SAC has them explicitly though.>>290552399Anon, she is very much putting on a show.
>>290557925Is she?She just looks nonplussed by 2501's attempt to be friendly.>You just look like a robot.Which is a pretty rude thing to say to a girl who's trying to fit in.
>>290558198She's showing off how sexy she is vs. 2501.
>>290558223You think we got a Becky/Stacy dynamic then huh?Well joke's on her, 2501 ended up being a total smokeshow.
2501 is her body count.
Modern anime is so shit. I got crunchy a few months ago and so far I've only liked Chainsaw man. The new Ghost in the Shell one is mid as fuck too.
>>290558490You mean she had cybersex with many people before section 6 reeled her in?
>>290558630That sounds about right.
>>290558364Sure, but she still went for a blonde bitch body just like her big sister. Motoko wasn't her only inspiration.
>>290558690As expected of the imouto who thinks she has something to prove.
>they censored the isntreal mentionI still think this season is amazing but this is extremely disappointing.
>>290560550wrong animal, she's a gorillaI hope he's gonna draw more of her again though, his OCs are cool but he needs to do more Motoko
I take back everything I said arise motoko is cute. CUTE
>>290561553She's a different kind of brat
>>290558547I felt the opposite about CSM. I find Denji annoying.
>>290561553M E H
>>290561553her face looks FAT
