Chapter 59, 60: >>291209318Chapter 61
>>291266088guardian strife?
I missed the last chapter but I want to say this >>291235052 page is beautiful and I love it>>291266088Neat detail how she's covered in scars from her days as a Canary
>>291266265this kills the fairy
>>291266230>>291266248Best shapeshifter joke
>>291266088>>291266127I think the first pages are his memories but this is a bad dream/nightmare morphing of themShe still loves him, side materials show she even came to the island to ara ara at him
>>291266264>Neat detail how she's covered in scars from her days as a CanaryAnd it shows gradually when her scarf slips downShe might have ended up really fucked up by the monster onslaught at Utaya, might have come close to dyingshe quit after that
>>291266289>Best shapeshifter jokebest one is when the captain turns the fairy to the fake here >>291266302 and the fake does the "not me" gesture
oh yeah the bl chapters
>>291266208Is this the same one that attacked the main party? It looks smaller.
>>291266533Marcille blew that one's head off, didn't she?
I wish I had a pet Mithrun
end of chapter
>>291266281>they fell down a hole so deep that it would take a bird a full week to reach the bottom>they landed on rocks>they have zero injuriesBull.Shit.
>>291266549This chapter takes place chronologically before the main team meets the shapeshifter
>>291266613Could be the same one then, but there's no real way of confirming it, unless there's only one shapeshifter around.
>>291266334
>>291266409I thought he quickly teleported down so that they don't build up much speed.Captain is really an absolute unit
>>291266565It's nice that even with the troll and the spoilers, first-timers are still reading along
>>291266435Didn't they say in the nightmare chapter that forcibly waking the victim could damage their soul?
>>291266665Not my problem.
>>291266665Captain isn't the most delicate man
>>291266373>this is a bad dream/nightmare morphing of themoh, I guess this actually confirms it >>291266435
>>291266665>soul>Kabru
>>291266032sex with maimed elf girls one day I'll read this
>>291266613Note how this place >>291266456 wasn't as snow-covered then. They are also the "animals" that the main party suspected has messed up with their backpacks.
>>291266735>maimed elf girlswho?
Falling 6 floors exactly where Falin got eaten is cheating. The progress wasn’t earned.
>>291266800The girl on the cover (Mithrun I think?)
>>291266088She clearly raised him wrong as a joke.
>>291266735........... OP r u talking about capp'n or kabru's hot mom
>first floor is directly above the 6th floor sewershurm
>>291266822that's a male elf
>>291266874Mithrun is very pretty
>>291266265poor little fairy
>>291266889i want everyone to stop lying
>>291266248One puuuuunch
>>291266874nice one
>>291266385this manga makes me laugh for real
>>291266959
>>291266435>though even though he's an elfI like D&D elves because they needed way less sleep
>>291266334My king won without even needing to be there
>>291266561The art is so good. I want more kui
>>291266561hantan lyë avestaina
>>291266561Elf in the top panel has the same forehead tattoo as Cithis. Could even be her in the past.
>>291266665Maybe because they're still small?
>>291267080>>291260003
>>291266735>maimed elf girlsare for PROTECC ad Regeneration spell
>>291266635anon's from back then
I said a couple of days ago that DM is the perfect level of popularity, but that might be wrong. It's the exact level of popularity where the thread dies every other day before I get a chance to reply.Anyway, I just want to say that I think it's cool how the Lion added realistic flaws to Laios's dream about being king. Flaws that weren't dealbreakers and that Laios could brainstorm how to fix. It makes his manipulation a lot more sophisticated instead of making everything too good to be true.
>>291266037Reminder that Kabru is not her only adoptive child.During this scene, just off-panel, there are several middle-aged men eating cake in their pajamas in bed.
>>291266070Human huffer.
>>291266281>>291266302I love that you can tell who the fairy is speaking for at any moment.Kui is such a good artist.
>>291266180Boring ass captain. He inspires no desires.
>>291266334Complete Monster ***er Domination
>>291266425Very important page, lmao
>>291266425>tfw exactly what the winged lion shown laios last chapter
>>291266478>Yo, you're back
>>291266561I forget how emotive he can be with his one good idea
>>291267772*one good eyeAlso thanks for the read, OP
>>291266070>>291266037>>291266056desu I wonder at what point Milsiril would stop seeing tallmen as children
>>291266180>1:2 guard-criminal ratioIsn't that extremely reckless?
>>29126790230 years
>>291267993iirc there was something about removing your magic cock cage before you can use magic and mithrun's team just doesn't give a fuck. or maybe im hallucinating that part.
>>291267993the job is dangerous to suicidal
>>291268023damn
>>291267993Almost backfired.
>>291266248The shapeshifter joke and its followups is one of my favorite jokes in the manga. It cracks me up every time. Kui is pretty good with the callback/running gag type of humor.>>291266281>>291266302>>291266320Gotta love how expressive the communication fairies are.>>291266334Here it is, where Kabru truly started working for me as a character. His dynamic as straight man amidst Laios and Mithrun's antics is amazing and hilarious to watch. I feel in general somewhere around here the huge ensemble cast starts coming together really well.>>291266264Yeah that spread was gorgeous. It was really unfortunate that such an important chapter happened to drop near the post limit of the thread. Would ave liked to add a thing or two to the ongoing discussions, but was too late when I finally got around to it.
>>291268242>she charmed some poor fucked to commit murder for hershame the hottest bitch is the most evil
>>291266088mommy
>>291267478Living the dream, they are.
>>291266334The psycholaios here is the most completed form.
>>291266709No, that's from later. The first is a real memory.
>>291266334I really hope the anime will get the comedic timing right here. I'm really curious about the choices they'll make to adapt the second half.
>>291267267I love reading big mangaka's one-shots, especially ones from early in their career.
>>291268918He might have the nightmares under his head back then too. Since he has no cushion perhaps they form under your collar, in your cape and so on
>>291266334MY KING!
>>291266425My liege!
>>291266561That's the first time there's a glint in his eye. Thanks OP.
>>291266561Thanks, anonsito.
>>291269131Laos, The Mad King of 3 Meals a Day.
>>291266056scars are sexy
>>291266425My king...
>>291266037>>291266056>>291266070>Ywn be a yandere elf's pet.
>>291266195Cute!!
>>291266037elves are put on this earth to stuff people with bland white cake
>>291266088Boner...
>>291268242Her human version must be huge
>>291266385KEK
>>291266425Thing is though... Laios had this exact dream so Kaburu isn't even being paranoid
>>291269938Imagine her oni version.
>>291267011I think he's suggesting the opposite. That "he's tough (which is rare for an Elf)"
>>291266561You'd think he'd be more reserved about spilling his guts to this guy
>>291270167speeding up the exposition, while distracting you from how hamfisted it is with vague promises of yaoi.
>>291266302>he's right here!>you're on speaker!
>>291268373I'd kill for her without her having to hypnotize me
What do we think about genderbent captain
>>291270167 He lost his desire to be straight [\spoiler]
>>291270440I'm thinking "ruined"
>>291270440tends to be nsfw but I saved quite some
>>291270472 perhaps she lost the desire to be lesbo
(that's a male Cithis)
>>291234572This boy is a freak but I understand his taste. Marcille is perfect for him.>>291234991The idea of designing a dungeon is incredibly appealing. I would have loved to see different dungeons with different designs in the manga. >>291235236Laios has had more problems with normal food than monsters lol
>>291266088She drained him every day
>>291270651idem
>>291266180Poor Pattadol has to deal with all these degenerates
>>291270167>this guy needs to know what's wrong with me to take care of me -> Otherwise I'll die -> If I'm dead I can't take revenge -> therefore tell him
>>291266425Okay kabru, what's wrong with that Huh?!
>>291266180I like how Milfsiril carries a sword here no other elf is shown with one>>291270727>the criminals can't be allowed to receive a noble elite leader's sperm so there's no one else that can be trusted with this elite assignment>or so they told her
>>291270707HE SHOULD'VE BEEN A WOMAN
>>291266070>>291266088>"you'll be exposed to the worst kinds of people"Yeah it's pretty clear that she deliberately trained him wrong, ensuring he only knew how to effectively dispatch other humans. She's more worried he'd make some enemies and get jumped on the surface. She wanted him to get discouraged by losing to monsters on the lower levels where it's safer and corpse retrievals are more frequent.
>>291270440Yes.
>>291270579gross lol
>>291270651>Male Cythis
>We have changing into other Race>But no Changing GenderKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUI!!!!!!!!!
>>291270994price for female Lycion
>>291270752he just say he doesn't feel the need to eat or sleep on his own. Him looking at him teary eyed ready to bare his heart is entirely different than being practical, let's not kid ourselves
>>291271062Elves are so androgynous I can't actually tell the different with 3 of them.
>>291271042Female kobold spotted. Call me the cookie monster
>>291271073it's not a matter of practical. It's literally the only thing he cares about
>>291271062>>291271178>Male Pattadol is much more of a bratI think this confirms she's like, barely legal girl straight from school. Girls reach physical maturity sooner and she looks like a grown woman because she is beyond that point, but as a male, she would still be a pubescent boy.
>>291271178>>291271227which means "he" will probably grow a bit more and may get more pronounced and more masculine look yet that will put him a bit apart from the girl version
>>291271062>Fem Lycion undoing her top every time she's about to transform
>>291270167He has no desire for others to know him, so he does not talk about himself. However, since he also does not mind if others know his past, he does talk about himself.
>>291271042holy shit Rin looks like the biggest frienzone simp/cuck to ever walk the earth
Who was here for the Dorohedoro Daily? We posted different foods and recipes we'd made since there was so much food in that series. And since this series has even more food, picrel is caramel apple cinnamon rolls made from scratch!
>>291271588rin is so lucky she's a woman. kawaii flatchest broody girl versus middlepart swagless KEK.
>>291270167Why? He has no real shame or embarassment for what he did.Kabru logically explained that he needed to know what happened to Mithrun in order to actually be able to help him/continue their journey successfully, which is what Mithrun wants to do (to find the demon), so by extension he'd be absolutely fine telling Kabru everything.It's the same logic as the later scene where Kabru tells an ultra focused Mithrun that if he doesn't eat he'll collapse before reaching the demon, so Mithrun complies and eats. As long as you're able to lay out even a basic explanation of why you want him to do something (and that result is not 'leaving the dungeon/moving away from the demon), he's most likely going to do it without complaints or hesitation.
i'm horny for mithrun
>>291271797She still has no game even as a woman.
>>291267993Nah, guards have the ability to cut off their prisoners ability to use magic if they want. If the prisoners DID attack their guards, they'd most likley end up stranded and powerless in the middle of the dungeon, plus they'd probably be put on the canaries most wanted list or some shit, so they'd definitely end up getting tortured to death or something if they were caught.
>>291271797>brainrot speak
>>291271905She would have if she smiled a bit.
>>291266110I really despise the way YP worded this. It's my single favorite Dungeon Meshi page and it feels so chopped
>>291266351>Senshi's Quick Tips
>>291271930>>291266110RAWs-san please let me see this page!
>>291266037Sex?
>>291271928smiling gnome rin looks like a dork, but a very cute dork
>>291266088Alice Margatroid!
>>291266248Lmao
>>291266265Nooo the fairy
>>291266302I want a fairy to look at me like the brown elf
>>291271928>elves can't have black hair, but elf version of Rin doesI guess this is the same as Senshi's comedic facial hair.It means the changelings change races, but while keeping some traits and the result is not guaranteed to be a legit by the rules specimen.
>>291266334Yeeeesss, turn into a degenerate!
>>291266385LMAO
>>291266425Rent free on his headAs expected of my king!
>>291270167It'll make sense, don't worry.
>>291270167same reason why he was so strangely chill about being dragged down into the pitfall by Kabru
>>291266456They were here before the party?
>>291266425Very important page, first time readers take note
>>291266561Thanks OP
>>291271955
Reminder: traps aren't gay
>>291270727She can deal with me instead
>>291272570>Reminder: traps aren't gay
>>291272558Well with my non nihongo joezu, I see omowanai on the left. I guess yen press did a more literal translation with a hypothetical question followed by a direct no instead of a more explicit musings that the fan tl has. It does have more oomph in the latter, with Kabru almost directly addressing the reader/world with his convictions. Idk I'm not even N5.
>>291271954Kek
>>291272571So a childhood friend? That's cute but it would've been better if his old squand came back
>>291272713>>291272558Oh I guess it is a different characterization for Kabru. It has a slightly more doubting tone, of course he ends it with No, never that's pretty steadfast but asking himself the question instead of just giving an answer isn't as resolute.
>>291272570
>>291266334Shitposting aside, I don't get this kind of "people"The ones that refuse to learn basic adult skills such as cooking or cleaningYou don't even need to make 3 michelin stars bullshit, just basic stuff like washing vegetables, cooking eggs, boiling some soupIt's not that hard
>>291272768He made people cook for him
>>291272558>>291272713In Japanese, the conclusion of the sentence, "I never want" in "I never want to return to that room where I could eat cake at any time", naturally comes at the very end. the sentence is not broken off.Translating this into English by placing that conclusion at the beginning would likely require sacrificing either accuracy or emotional nuance.
>>291266561>lost his desire to be straight
>>291271062>the party has a halfling in it>UNDER 30 HALFLING MALE
>>291272768That's for women, let them handle it
>>291272768Too much distance from the meal to the living thing that makes up the meal, I guess.
>>291272570these are incredibly old men
>>291272555>Senshi still keeping track of things he needs to educate kot on
So, does Succubus have conscience?
>>291272831ah, souka souka
>>291273024Sentience and feelings? They were fucking PISSED at Kot for throwing away their larvas so yesMorality? Not in the normal senseDefinitely worse than piggers
>>291273089>worse than piggersThey seem less malicious
>>291273127I rather a pig based work forced than a mosquito based one desu
>>291272768When would it have even been useful for him?He spent the first half of his life pampered by an elf that fetishizes babying humans, then the next half eating nothing but dried meat and hardtack in dungeons.
>>291235408>The real question is probably, is it normal that they don't always score 100% with their mind reading and charm spell?They got it right (considering how he got ganked afterward), it's just that Laios has been burned by bad relationships to the point that he doesn't want to open up to anyone anymore. Adventuring/Research for him is an escape from the body's desire to keep seeking love despite the history. So the succubi took his feelings/knowledge about Marcille and presented her in a way that would finally sate him; by turning her in to a monster. A beast who can be killed or experimented on with no repercussion. A perfect relationship with the caveat that if she ever decides to twist the knife, he can twist back in equal measure by throwing her to the humans.
>>291273227>beast who can be killed or experimented on with no repercussion. A perfect relationship with the caveat that if she ever decides to twist the knife, he can twist back in equal measure by throwing her to the humans.I don't think it's that dark.Laios just likes monsters. He likes Marcille but doesn't quite know that he does. And he really wants to be turned into a monster (and his friends as well). That was the combination that got him. He'd be completely willing to give up his humanity, especially if every human he actually does like comes along with him and that's what the succubus adapted to. Couldn't snag him with just regular human emotions of attraction, needed to add an erasing his humanity, but bringing along everyone else.
>>291272768I just sorta assumed he meant survival cooking. Its one thing to fry an egg its another to fry an egg where you have to make the fire and gather the egg yourself.
>>291266565It would take a full week because the hole is closing speedreader-san. No idea how they didn't splat on the rocks though. I figure Sissel did some magic to cushion his fall and it might have saved everyone else as well as a byproduct. My dad was once stabbed in the gut and fell down 16 stories and he lived.
>>291273196he's only 22, so assuming he was taken in at 6 years old, he had 10 years with milsiril and 6 doing dungeon stuff. and it's not like he had no choice but to eat weird food anyway. in the medieval era going to a tavern for every single meal, every day was pretty standard fare, and he lives under a bar where he's on good terms with the owner.
>Destroy for SecretionI dont believe it
>>291273298Also countable nipples.
>>291273418This is the setup of your average rpg maker porn game
>>291272912When they're elves, they're ripe bitches for human men.
>>291272570>Milquerun and Sissyel
oh shit oh fuck i want to fucking elven men what the FUCK
>>291273578so whatit ain't illegal like it used to be
>>291273418Reminds me of how some plants became unbearably spicy as a defensive mechanism against being eaten, but too bad, we're into that shit.
>>291273578A halffoot is fine too.
>>291273400It's shown later that Thistle and Falin landed on giant spider's web
>>291267289Elf-hate garbage.
Fuck, I missed last chapter, but re-reading it... jesus... that motherfucker lion was pretty much spelling it all out, wasn't he?Anyways...>>291234945any lucid dreamers can confirm? because i can taste and even feel pain in dreams, hell, even when i know i'm dreaming i can't change anything or wake up at will. thank god all that vanishes seconds after i wake up, because otherwise i'd be a living rekt thread.
>>291273400Mithrun explains how he and Kabru survived in this chapter: >>291266409
>>291273708Yeah, that thread died pretty much immediately. It's such a shame since I wanted to talk about how fucking cute scylla marcille is.
>>291273735cute? She's got several wolf heads leading directly to her stomach anon.
>>291273708I lose most senses and memories inside a dream but I still feel them being triggered. Can wake up whenever I want the moment I deduce that I'm in a dream though.
>>291273757Yeah, I know that's more sexy than cute, but she can be both things at once.
>>291266134L
>>291273702>the only elf hate to see is your posts, noldrofaggot
>>291267349This is the only sex edit that actually makes me chuckle every time.
>>291273735I wonder if it would be better if a new thread was started if the previous is already in it's 400s, otherwise the chapter drop is destined to die almost immediately.
>>291273905>yeah, the others are just "sex jokes because we horny". This one actually funny (in how it fits the panels kek)
>>291266561i have a crush on this elf man
>>291273757wolves are cutemore wolves = more cutethat's just basic math
>>291272571Got a case of the not gaysI do remember some speculation that he was "gay coded" because he didn't fit in well with his group or some shit
>>291273418In real life humans have hunted several species to near extinction for much less.
>>291274047Pattadol is "transcoded" according to twitter's version of unironic shitposters. Personally I stop paying attention just from the "coded" term is used, but that's probably my "get of the damn lawn" speaking.Poor Pattadol, that's a nasty way to call her ugly without calling her ugly.
>>291274172oh and by that I meant to say, pay no attention to that crap
Traps are straight-coded
>>291272570Yes they and you are.
>>291273024I was wondering the same, and about other monsters like mermaids.
>>291266561>Not "it ate most of me">"It didn't eat all of me"
>>291268242Patty probably has zero back-up from Mythrum in establishing authority. She's alone in a party of monsters.
>>291268242I wonder if Cithis takes care of him like a mommy to a baby and she likes it
>>291274389'It didn't eat all of me' hits harder because it conveys that it would have been more merciful had it just finished him off
>>291270440>exact same character but with a bra onbrave
>>291273708>taste and even feel pain in dreamsIt's kind of weirdLike, the difference between a banana-flavored candy, and a real bananaThey both taste like banana, but it's definitely not the same, because one feels "artificial", so to sayEverything makes sense once you realize it's either your brain trying to make a random collage out of everything you've ever lived, random scrying into alternate dimensions, or whatever it really isSpaces can be non-euclideanTime goes either too slow, or too fastReflective surfaces rarely make senseWritten stuff keeps changing every time you look awayLight sources are sometimes non-existentPatches of dry soil and moist soil coexist in weird patterns"NPCs" get either angry, or confused if you make the mistake of calling them thatBut most importantly, CONCEPTS GET MIXED all the time, in strange ways that usually only make sense to YOU, and sometimes only after you really, really think about itI'm sure you have seen them"Interobjects"The dream creates chimeras out of diferent things, not just in the physical sense, but also in symbolism, and shitFor example, you could find in your travels, I dunno, let's say, a stomach made out of woodIt's literally shaped like a stomachBut it opens like some kind of wooden chestAnd you use it to store coins inside of it, but only the ones made out of ironBecause in the Dream's logic, coins are iron, iron is food, food needs storage, a chest is storage, but so is your stomach, and that's why you dream of a stomach made out of wood, because you spent the last 10 hours of your life talking about exploring dungeons and eating food inside of dungeonsDreams are fascinating, and I love themEver since I first played Yume Nikki for the first time, back in 2008, and LSD shortly after, I've dedicated literal decades of my life to study the phenomenaI guess that's why I relate to both Laios and Senshi so much
>>291274389He wanted to die after a point, i would assume
>>291274455i think she makes him play pretend breastfeeding with those plush dolls. as in he's mommy breastfeeding the plush dolls.
>>291274389I seem to remember from the early fan translations the captain saying he was "leftovers" from the dungeon's meal
>>291266134Name my band
>>291266665Marcille was under their influence for far longer. Also, could Kabru have higher defense against mental attacks than Marcille?
>>291274738Ending spoiler: I think you're mixing knowledge from the end of the manga, where this is revealed to be his biggest fear.
Why are mangas written by women so much better? Am I a woman?
>>291274967No, i remember that stance and him saying he was leftovers. That's why I got dissonance from the current dumps way of wording it
>>291274967>>291275090Googled "Dungeon Meshi Mithrun leftovers" and one of the first results in images was this
>>291274996Better eye and understanding of human interactions. Men are good at fighting and coreography and portraying movement, women are better at relationships and worldbuilding
>>291274996broadly speaking guys can afford to get through life only ever thinking about what other men think, because just being a guy is enough to get them and their needs taken seriously, and the only kinds of people they need to understand are the kinds of men in positions of authority in their culture and what makes them like the cut of your jibgirls on the other hand don't get taken seriously, not even by adult women, so from a young age they got to invest a lot of time in figuring out how all kinds of people tick to get their own needs attended to, so more of them end up as adults that have a really easy time imagining all sorts of different people with different kinds of inner workings and contradictions while their distaff counterparts in creative industries or more likely to have never understood a woman ever and just fall back on archetypes and cliches from the media they grew up consuming, usually only basing female characters on girls or women they've known that either they have a grudge against and want a bit of petty revenge, or else that they had a crush on and are writing a fantasy about their avatar having the relationship with her that they never did IRLbroadly speaking
>>291274996There's a lot of slop written by both genders, and a lot of great starts written by both genders, but one regard where I think women really outdo men is the ability to write a good ending at the right time.My theory is that because men are generally expected to be the provider, they have a stronger incentive to keep writing for the sake of their families.So men are more prone to suffer from success creatively and keep going when they run out of ideas when they feel like they have to.
>>291274996Autistic women write good shit
>>291274553Based dream autist, oneirology is cool
>>291274047>>291274229>codedGo back.
>>291271930>>291272558The YP one is miles better.
>>291274996>mangas>>291275153>because just being a guy is enough to get them and their needs taken seriously
>>291275481Is any mention of language used outside of this board even in passing triggering for you now?Bite me.
>>291266889It's hilarious how Mithrun is a pretty femboy by tallman standards but a toned masculine chad by elf standards
>>291273932It is better. But OP is a faggot
>>291274996Kui doesn't write like a woman, she writes like an autist.Autistic brains are wired differently from male or female brains.
>>291275554Kui does not write like an autist, she does indeed write like a woman it's just not as, shall we say, obvious.
>>291275554There are still some woman left in her brain. Like all focus on hairs, elf soap opera, and Chillchuck wife
>>291275576Yes, her focus on small details is very evident (in a good way)>>291275577This
>>291275554Alots of female mangaka write better than male mangakaIts just White woman cannot write fiction for shit
>>291275621Deadman Wonderland was fucking awful anon.
>>291275621We really pretend now Inuyasha was well written?
>>291266334>THE SKY IS FALLING! NOOOOO!
>>291266425The nonowa Laios is a fucking riot
>>291275608Autism isn't a prerequisite for giving due diligence to your writing, and her interpersonal writing is far too good for her to be, autists tend to write every character with essentially the same voice for exampleI'm sick to the back teeth of the whole "oh you're mildly passionate about something? Autism, gotta be" narrative, it's one degree removed from the kind of people who say talent is innate so don't bother trying anything.
>>291274996>>291275142>>291275153then why western women authors are dogshit?
>>291275862Because you don't English.
>>291275862western woman only know how to eat chip and shopping
>>291275862sturgeon's law
In stories where women are competent adventurers or whatever, does it make sense that regardless of that they are not used for sexual purposes? Especially if going deep in dungeons, surely things would get sexual in reality.
>>291275939Surely you're pretending to be retarded
>>291273418What were they planning on doing here?
>>291275862>western womenYou answered your own question
>>291275858I said "In a good way" to avoid this kind of reply but whatever
>>291275153That's a vast exaggeration. The average person doesn't think that deeply about anything. There is a difference between basic getting along to go along and actual understanding.
>>291271675Those look dang good
>>291274553Fuck me, that sounds interesting. Any tips? I want to explore more dungeons in my dream.
>>291266127Oh my god, you're right. She is literally an HS parent
>>291274553Ive always seen dreams as more like productions, with sets, and scripts, and castsWhile I'm in them I'm usually always aware that I'm both the protagonist and the narrator. So like, while the dream is playing out it's like I've read one page ahead of the script and can alter my decision making based on that.Not sure if you'd call that lucid.But that leads to a lot of rewrites. And now it's me versus me.Not uncommon for me to outmaneuver whatever force is trying to get me only for my brain to go>run that back, actually you get caught
>>291266088Is Yandere mom a real genre? asking for a friend
>>291275090>>291275109Ah, I stand corrected.
>>291271930This reads way worse though?
>>291266970Kui is a very funny woman.
>>291266561sex with neet elf
>>291275858"Due diligence" when describing Kui's writing is the understatement of the century.The level of thought she puts into details that never directly factor into the story is ridiculous. Both in terms of worldbuilding and character building. Look back through this daily, where people ask random irrelevant questions and someone is able to bring up a page from bonus material that answers it.
>>291275862There are tons of good western women writers.
>>291270579Gonna translate later, looks fun.
>>291277361He's not a NEET, he's very employed. Other than that. yeah.
>>291267638Yes. No desires at all.Yes...None whatsoever,I want to pin him down and nibble his broken ears.
>>291266248I love this manga so much.
>>291276893You ever watch Coraline?
>>291266334>tags: mindbreak
>>291272392>tags: corruption, yaoiYes... YES...
>>291273298I agree, this seems like the most reasonable approach. Those who completely deny Marcille and Laios having some level of mutual attraction are dumb, those who don't see it's a complex situation are not wise.
>>291266435>the nightmares cause... oh wait that's a spoileroooooooooooh.
>>291271954Without a doubt one of the worst things I've ever eaten is a birch bark polypore"technically" edible, has the texture of rotten wood and a similar flavor but with a artisanal touch of ear waxDon't mushroom forage, it isn't worth it
>>291266665But Kabru is black, anon. And he fucks old men for money in girl clothes.
>>291275643Only true edgyfag connoisseurs can appreciate it for the kino it was
>>291277555True. Im the old man.
>>291266195>>291266265Oh yeah, there was an extra involving how the fairy are made.Reminder that it was made of something that cause a certain someone to gave up on making it.
>>291266499>you wished and it happened>being alone with Mithrun who is completely dependent on youConfirmed Kabru x Mithrun?
>>291277584The fanfic writes itself at this point
>>291266541I forget the reference here with the hands on the face. It's some artwork.
Why did pre readers hate Kabru again?
>>291266561Big spoilers if newfags.We still never found out if Thistle died in this manga, he was merely paralysed by the demon and I think he just falls into the collapsing dungeon. I wonder if Kui had plans for more content. I want to believe...
>>291277364Name three. Please.
>>291274455Elves are related to succubi of course she does.
>>291270544>another merely canon image of Kabru in his most preferred lookwould.
>>291270651That's a male mithrun too.
>>291271062No, they're all female (male) because all elves are perverts.Stop ruining my head canon. Delet this.
>>291272858That's like 50 in halfling years. Chilchuck is an old man.And my wife.
>>291267478There was nobody else at the time
>>291273495God they're adorable.
>>291266828What? Kabru is stupid hypercompetent. Misiril is also a genius, she is just insane.
>>291277659living characters dont get pages like this
>>291266170>>291266153>>291266134Shouldn't he know these assholes?
>>291267993Yes but guards are basically leftovers from rich families that don't want to bother with another kid. Not much of a loss if a melty happens.
This manga made me get into:>female elves>male elves>delicious chocolate (both sexes)>male halflings>female dwarves>orcs>monsters>demons>cookingTruly demonic.
>>291266230He knows the guy for 5 minutes and already made a perfect copy. I think Kabru might not be right in the head
>>291274229Wrong, they are gay.You are not though for liking them, this is the universal law of lewdness.
>>291277583Where?>certain someone to gave up on making it.Marcille?
>>291266334Local sheltered kid who has never cooked in his entire life looks down on average countryboy who does all on his power to get a meal for his companions.
>>291266334I liked sociopath Kabru better
>>291277662If we're talking comics (the equivalent to manga), off the top of my headKate BeatonKatie RiceEmily Carroll
>>291272768Kabru is the definition of a hypocrite
>>291266394>>291266385>>291266368>>291266351>My own lack of curiosity and practical skills is giving me a hard time>Should I revaluate my opinion of Laios and his monster knowledge?>Or just double down, demonize him more
>>291274553I've occasionally tasted in dreams. I've also read legible times new roman english too and vividly remember it (which shouldn't happen).But the only thing I've really been able to do "lucid dream" wise is fuck every single being indiscriminately in my dream (usually elves because of course) including myself somehow which was painful in my dream wtf, I hated it - for some reason I remember a phrase said as I did it. >Nova Scotia!Pronounced incorrectly. Shouted hoarsely.I don't know why to this very day.I am on the opposite side of the globe and never thought about Nova Scotia once other than maybe seeing it on a map.I don't even.
>>291277576But still the bottom right?
>>291277826Yeah it is unlikely if that page exists.Luckily I don't remember it. So it doesn't exist.I'm not in denial, you are.;_;
>>291277659Yaad brought Thistle out of the dungeon when they escaped. He woke up for a brief moment, refused to eat, affirmed that he 'didn't need anything anymore' or some such, then fell unconscious again. The way its framed (and by the fact that right after he dies the golden kingdom lands start surfacing above the ocean) makes me very strongly think he died. Add on to that the fact that he didn't appear in any post-ending extra comics in the AB, not even the one that was specifically about ex-dungeon masters, + he didn't get an extra 'what are they doing post-ending' blurb added to his AB biography, + his specific timeline in the AB stops directly at this scene >>291277826, pretty heavily implying that was the end for him. At least in Mithruns case he had a single proper desire left in him that kept him relatively sane and motivated to keep living moment to moment, as well as serving as something to build off of in the future, Thistle was pretty much fully burnt out. Also god knows how long it'd been since he'd slept or eaten (aside from those tiny few berries Falin gave him)
>>291277936Nice! I'll check them out.
>>291277945And that makes him hotter.
>>291268242Elves would rather form these parties of sociopaths than invite other races to them
>>291275621whoever made this chart must have been on lsd to put ranma and inuyasha on it instead of urusei yatsura and maison ikkoku>>291277362>The level of thought she puts into details that never directly factor into the story is ridiculous. Both in terms of worldbuilding and character building.>Look back through this daily, where people ask random irrelevant questions and someone is able to bring up a page from bonus material that answers it.i saw a dunmeshi thread on here once that opened with>Tolkien reincarnated as a Japanese woman and wrote this.and i find it difficult to disagree
>>291278056I remember it being strongly implied and it definitely, sadly, feels right for him to find peace.Except... he was partially eaten like Mithrun.So there's maybe a problem there. A demon perhaps.I'm not sure what it could mean for him though, it's not just wishful thinking, something didn't feel right.I wonder if the demon is still able to use him as a vessel.
>>291278056>Thistle was pretty much fully burnt out.Then how could he have that dream?He shouldn't feel such sentimental things like that last page. I think that page is a lie. But by whom?
>>291277659Even if Thistle survives, he's basically just a living corpse.No desire to do anything at all means he can't function in any capacity. Mithrun could at least be baited into fulfilling his basic needs by relating them to defeating the demon.I'm not sure how Thistle could be functional in any capacity.
>>291278165> Except... he was partially eaten like Mithrun.Nah he was fully eaten, the lion left a bit of Mithrun behind as 'leftovers', but he gobbled Thistle all up (he even outright laments that he got ahead of himself and didn't leave anything behind), which is why Thistle was basically catatonic.
>>291278152I agree but the first 2-3 chapters feel very different compared to the rest of the series regarding details.
>>291273735Laios has good taste
>>291278152>Tolkien: "I see you, Kui, understand the evils of the elves and their gay lewdness"
>>291278152It's weird to see a post that I made get screencapped and reposted.
>>291278202Then he should be in hell with the demon. One doesn't simply get eaten by demons and go to heaven.Wasn't this literally implied in the manga? It was a fate worse than death or something. So that's another reason why I got confused by that page.
>>291278187> how could he have that dream?It wasn't a dream, that scene happened, just with Yaad in Delgals body. Thistle was just lucid for a brief moment, but still had no desires anymore, so he just konked right out again.
>>291278253Tolkien elves were incredibly masculine
I want to fuck and eat this lion. What is this demon hex it has put on me?
>>291278317>I don't need anything anymore.And yet you felt the need to say that. Curious.
>>291278307We don't know if any kind of afterlife exists in meshi's world. Churches exist, but we know nothing about their religious beliefs. Also its not as though the demon is actual satan or anything, its more akin to an extra-dimensional alien or something. All that happens to the people it eats (as far as we know) is that it leaves its victims catatonic due to lack of desires, then they just die of starvation/thirst/exposure or whatever else gets them first.
>>291278321I didn't say they weren't.In fact, it's more of a bara type lewd. Ok, in seriousness, they were actually extremely chaste.
>>291278333>lion eats out your desire to fuck it>it comes back
For someone so smart Kabru is pretty fucking stupid, he has no practical abilities to traverse a dungeon. He can solo an entire human party but wipes at a level 1 slime.I see nothing wrong with that but the issue is that he doesn't either, when he see Laios party perfectly going through floors while he luckshit his way through he still has the gall to shit on them inside his head.
>>291278353>Also its not as though the demon is actual satan or anything, its more akin to an extra-dimensional alien or something.For me he's more like an "otherworld" deity than an alien because he corrupts and transforms the physical realm in demonic ways.I find him frankly terrifying and when you reread the manga in this context it's spooky. It's great. You just don't expect it. There are chess moves being made and you don't even notice them until the final moments of the manga. You think it's a mere food manga/comedy and then there's this weird Gilliam-esque horror twist to it.Ammit was part lion, hippo, crocodile and was called "she who devours". She devoured the dead. Also Sekhmet, another lion goddess, was also associated with devouring, destroying, mauling and "healing" things. "She who is powerful".>>291278447>an infinite cycle of the food chainAt what point is this just sex and not just eating?
>>291278456Yeah, he's clearly tsundere for Laois so requires justification for why Laois is an idiot in his head.>stupid sexy laois
>>291278456I imagine the rest of his party usually carries him through the less humanoid monster encounters, and/or his regular sword skills are enough to deal with a lot of the more generic kinds of monsters on the higher floors. Good to keep in mind as well that most adventuring parties actively try to AVOID monsters and only fight them when they have to. Laios and Co are kinda different considering they need to seek them out in order to eat + haphazardly rushing through places in order to get to the dragon faster.
>>291278333Please remember to use spoiler tags for images as well.
Misiril gets way too much flak for being a loving mother
>>291273415He is also probably rich. I bet his mom sends him a big allowance every month
>>291278629I thought I did spoiler that image. huh...Also there is no way thistle just "goes" if he's inside this beast, which still lives. If this beast lives, those eaten live as part of it.I don't think this thing simply poops them out and calls it a day.
>>291278721I don't think he is 'inside the beast'. The desires that the lion 'eats' don't seem to go anywhere, they just cease to exist. The demon eating someone isn't really akin to the demon eating their soul or something whole and final like that, even in his (seeming) last moments, Thistle was clearly able to recognise/remember Delgal.
>>291278456Milsiril was trolling by not teaching Kabru any magic at all.
>>291275939There would be a lot of name-tarnishing and sexual violence and you'd see a lot of groups of only female adventurers, but the majority of people just want to do their jobs and would avoid doing that.
So... was thistle always in the cuck chair in their bedchamber?
>>291278456His elf mother trained him wrong as a joke.
>>291277891>>291277583>>291266265>>291266195Apology for my poor image quality as quick google search is all I have of this image.Here the reminder how fairy are made.
>>291266088Everyone saying she trained him wrong, but she just trained him to take care of dungeon lords. So Kabru is pretty much a min-max build that just focus on beating final bosses while being shit at everything else.
>>291275939I think Kui comes about as close to saying that as she can without actually saying it.
>>291278837Kabru itinerary was already full with like 10 different arts and skills.
>>291266134I need to see those two in the Oreimo pose.
>>291275982People are not buying those with good intentions in mind.
>>291278897How do sorcerers even find out this stuff
>>291278889>>291278898Yeah, I think it's less than she trained him "wrong" and more like she trained him to be the party leader.He doesn't need to specialize in anything if he has teammates who can do those things for him.
>>291278898He also knows like 3 languages, good grasp on history, biology and other topics.Milsiril is also a pampered high society elf, its expected she also skipped some practical skills like cooking.
>>291278815Delgal is in him too. The whole dungeon EATS them. That's kinda the point of the entire manga.YOU are the food.I can see why the elves want them destroyed so desperately. They are gateways to hell. A try to eternal torment luring people with wishes and treasures.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8klPYjS3ws
>>291278900Chil sure loves to put labels on people. Didn't your wife left you dude, sure you are not projecting a bit.
>>291274996They aren't.Kui is just that special.
>>291278990Full metal
>>291278919wait till you discover how matchstick was eventually invented.Yes, our own world very match stick.
>>291275939I would think this dungeon would deliberately trick the members into fucking each other and corrupting their relationships to the point where it made them easy food.Read this chapter. The nightmares are already leading them astray with trickery. The traps are set. The chains are being shackled.
>>291279009Overrated. The first anime version ended up more interesting than the original premise.Also, comparing FMA manga to Dungeon Meshi feels laughable to me.
>>291279009Counterpoint.
>>291278900>girl who cant say nohello
>>291275939first of all i don't think they have fullblown misogyny in this universe because elves are the top dog. second of all, if that's true then, equal opportunity sexual violence.
>>291279058Despicable mass murderer.
>>291279059>>girl who cant say noCan't seem to say it at all
>>291278837He does know some basic magic according to the AB (light, basic healing, and water walk)He's just on the unlucky scale of tallmen and isn't very suited for magic (not everyone can be Laios/Falin savant tier). Even doing those basic spells tires him out, so he usually prefers to just leave that stuff to the actual team mage.
>>291279053Meshi is better than FM yes but its still pretty good. D gray man before it went full retard too
>>291278954Delgal wasn't eaten at all, neither was Yaad, both of them escaped the dungeon, even if Delgal died right after his escape.
>>291279085She should have taught him how to cast Grease.
>>291278919This is based on how existing real life literature talks about creating a homunculus. I figure it's even easier when it actually works.
>>291279121She knew the trouble he'd get into with that spell.
>>291273298I think the reason it used Marcille as a cover was because it was the best way to leverage the monster-transformation fantasy without Laios getting too suspicious. Chilchuck wouldn't ever want to become a monster, so he's not an option. Senshi wouldn't either, so he's not a good candidate. Izutsumi is Izutsumi. The only person who would be able to draw him in is Marcille, if not because they have feelings for each other, but because she's kinda smart and he trusts her judgement.
>>291278990Honestly they should be because they should empathise more. But I just haven't seen that happen and it makes no sense to me. I guess women kinda shy away from that shit when they're young because it's uncool and they kinda want to fit in with the other girls.Whereas men tend to be stupidly autistic and driven to make a book or whatnot.But I think that might change, it's just a cultural thing. Seems like there used to be way more good female writers in the past when it was probably considered a feminist thing to do. You have female writers with psuedonyms and whatnot because they want to prove themselves anonymously. And people used to get kinda obsessed about female writers in the 1800s and early 20th century when they did this. It added to the mystique and people felt it gave the story an interesting quality. Later you get the great Agatha Christie and writers like that. It's only in recent times that it's kinda stalled for female writers and I think that's purely a cultural thing. You read shit by men and often it's boring as fuck. They just fail the empathy test at times. It frustrates me personally as a man that we suck at this. But at the same time, there are places where that could be a distracting thing. That's why the difference between sexes. We both suck at something, but usually the opposite of the other sex. Natural selection probably did that. It's so stupid.Seeing my sister feel like she has to join the crowd of girls that go to parties and "live their lives" while ignoring her own talents frustrated me as a brother. All sisters kinda did their own version of this. It's just how they do. I did the opposite and hated being like other people. kek
>>291278900How many parties has she destroyed?
>>291279100I'm kinda recalling that. One does not simply leave. I think it was said in the manga that you truly leave or something along those lines. It draws you back. The manga definitely said that Laois had been cursed by the lion demon.
Friendly reminder we have 100 posts to fill so that the dumb OP dumper doesnt end up dumping while we close to 500>>291279121>Lubricant User
>>291278970prove him wrong, pro tip: you can't
>>291279256It really is so unfortunate that the thread keeps dying every other day before I can say anything.I love this manga and it's one that there's a lot to discuss about because of how thorough the author is.
>>291278191 in essence, thistle gave all he had to protect the golden kingdom. mithrun's desires were all tied into his past definition of self and feeding his need for validation. so what he's doing post-canon is rewiring his sense of self. not to say thistle couldn't do the same, but it's gotta be harder since the demon basically starved for a thousand years then ate everything.
>>291279256>>291279279>general niggers
>>291278919Medieval alchemy was fucking wild. It's so funny. But also cool seeing people perceive our world in such a different skewed way. How imprinting impacted their brain.Today's world is full of shit that tries to sedate our brains though, it's kinda sad. We're really like people in that dungeon as it slowly drives people mad or to a stupor, makes them disorientated and then devours them. It's not just thistle in pic.
>>291279121More than anything THIS shit is what makes it hard for me to believe that Kui was unaware of D&D. Was Grease busted in D&D 3.5 vidya as well?
>>291278990She's a westaboo who somehow managed to avoid the culture wat pitfall prevalent in so many other works.
>>291279385grease is in a lot of different games as a spell/skill
>>291278667xitter posting about how she abused him by training him as a child. do you not want him to know how to fight? justice for mommy.
>>291279279Kui scares me. There were things in this that I didn't expect at all in this that had payoff later in the manga.Normally manga are way more obvious with it. Too obvious. But these ones caught me because I was like "ok cheesy gimmick about eating monsters in dungeons, comfy and silly let's go" at the start. It was not comfy, nor silly.This manga scares me with how many times it did this relentlessly while tying it to this esoteric metaphorical parallel of our own world.It's so fucking good.
>>291279430To be fair, she could've taught him how to fight fucking monsters, not other humans. I'm under the impression that she either wanted him to fail in his dungeoneering quest so he'd return home, OR she has so much distrust for other adults that she basically just figured that the biggest threats Kabru would face would be from other humanoids.
>>291279409Yeah, but it was specifically busted in 3.5 cause of save-or-death mechanics.
>>291279409She hasn't played D&D, but she has played Baldur's Gate, which faithfully adapts Grease as a near instant win button against melee opponents.
>>291279030Unless I'm missing something skimming through Wikipedia it seems pretty par for the coursePeople wanted easy fire so they got things that made fire and mashed them together until it workedand then of course the Chinese had an idea that was vaguely similar but practically not the same hundreds of years ago so they take credit for the whole thingIf they pissed outside and it rained overnight they would take credit for the ground being wet, I swear.
>>291266265Pretty sure this fairy was Mithrun's own fairy.There was some extra content that showed off the different comms fairies that the Canaries use and while everyone who had one had customisations that made them look like their user Mith's was just the default empty pfp.
>>291279479that's fair. however, it seems like his own aversion to monsters preventing him from learning more about them and how to defeat them. after the first wipe he shoulda sat his ass down and picked up a general monster guide or something, but he's always unprepared and falls for all the shit.
>>291279561> no desire to get erect
>>291279385In Baldur's Gate 3 grease was annoying because if you slipped it costs actions to get up and if your melee guys had to close the distance and couldnt jump or fly, it was gamble to go through grease floor. I wouldnt use it myself as a player because why bother gambling making enemy lose turn when you can just kill them but if enemy managed to use it on player, it was troublesome. So pretty much an anti-player obstacle but not something player would use. Same with majority of debuffs and traps, they are troublesome for player but whatever if you want to use them on enemy
We don’t get to see Marcille’s other ideal succubus because Laios was already in front of her incapacitated and the fake would be too obvious.
>>291279441People think whimsy and wanderlust are all you need in an adventure story but it's the use of horror that can really transcend the narrative and it's characters into something that actually has dimensions.
>>291279638>other ideal succubusBait, and I'm replying yes
>>291279533The greeks apparently had been using oils like how civs used gunpowder about 2000 years before them. The Byzantines were using it regularly.It kinda bothers me that we just stop at gunpowder as the first "explosive" when we had explosives before gunpowder. Of course, it wasn't nearly as spectacular as gunpowder, but people probably saw things being mixed and creating "magic" as they probably considered it. So the method was kinda cooking. They also probably saw flammable things and went "if we combine and compress them and then sacrifice 3 chickens and do the hokey pokey while chanting Revelation 21:8, maybe something will happen".
>>291279603Grease is good as a player spell when there's too many enemies to kill all at once or when the enemies have too much HP to kill in one turn.
>>291279385probs consuming derivative works and not looking up the origin.
>>291279533Damn, should have been more specific.someone was attempting to create Philosopher's stone, by for some reason, involving collecting and using pisses. The end result of those fuckery led to discovery of a type phosphorus, which became foundation to creating match stick.
What would Falin's succubus look like?
>>291279767Her brotherPurely platonically, of course
>>291279767>>291279825Looks like Laios and the party would wipe because they'd be so shocked. Falin wouldn't even get the chance to explain that it's purely platonic.
>>291279664It's not just that though.It's this one neat package that I think does the perfect amount for me when trying to represent the folly and arrogance of man when trying to achieve wealth and greatness and when trying to manifest their dreams. But then it adds this twist when it's also sorta being a critic of our reality all up and it's own arrogance. It's a very weird one for me.A manga about eating dungeon animals btw kek.It also deliberately manipulates expectations so masterfully at the start of the manga that you are drawn into Kui's Wild Ride. By nearly every chapter end you are hungry for more because it exceeds your expectations at the start of it. By the end of it you've sold your soul to Satan and then Laois beats Satan with his sheer stupidity and it's just kino.
This bothers me, I don't feel like those would be their reactions to it.Except Izutsumi.
>>291279925Yes that's what he's imagining will happen because he is a manchild
>>291279925I feel like Chilchuck's isn't too far off
>>291279925>his thoughts on IzutsumikekBut, I forgot.Is Izutsumi's story finished here? The others all had some resolution, but I recall her having yet had that satisfying resolution which I suspected was going to be a spin off or something.
>>291268373>shameStart fucking evil women
>>291279994Towards the end, she briefly toys with the idea of tracking down the guy who made her into a catgirl and getting revenge but she gets talked out of it like two chapters later or something.
>>291279963Senshi would probably mess around with Laois, but Laois would take it literally and not sarcastically so he's kinda right in this pic.Izutsumi is accurate. She's probably thinking about what to eat next.
>>291279925Marcille would be offended by the implication that he considers her inhuman enough to be interested in
>>291279994Her 'arc' has made its major turn by the end, though she hasn't gotten closure about what was done to her, or in regards to her family or the wizard who made her (if either are still alive)Though the main point of Izutsumi's conflict was basically always just the need to accept her current self + accepting that in order to move forward and reach the end goals that she wants, she may have to do things she doesn't really want to do/don't appeal to her. She's at least on the path to accepting both of those things.
>>291280056I think I recall something like that and I wasn't that satisfied with that.I think everything else was right though. Thistle is a tiny niggle but I can overlook it because we don't know the Lion's true scope of existence even at the end of the manga (because you never know with a demon right? it's a demon).
>>291279925I think they are spot on
>>291279767>>291279825But with romance, just brother and sister love
>>291280197Without "
>>291273708re-reading this chapter it's interesting to compare and contrast the false promise to the happy ending we actually gotthere's some major differences, but Laios' role is remarkably similarsometimes I think the ending was too happy, to neat and tied up
>>291280108>Though the main point of Izutsumi's conflict was basically always just the need to accept her current selfBut this is Izutsumi.Was Monkey satisfied with Bhudda's answers? No. He never was. He's monkey. (I haven't watched that show in a million years that's probably wrong kek)I think this kinda confused her character for me. She's, let's be frank, quite stupid and animalistic and I don't think she has that capability to just "accept herself". I think he resolution could only be tragic 2bh. It kinda is as is, but I don't think it's the way she would react to this epiphany because I don't think she's capable of such an epiphany. She's a cat.That's like Cat from Red Dwarf understanding herself like that. There's no way he would kek.>just accept myself? naw you all need to reject yourselves because I'm perfect. yeeeeeoowIt's crazy how similar they are in retrospect.
>>291280309This is a very shallow take on her character. Her preferences and behavior are generally catlike, but she's repeatedly shown to have the intellect of a human, including the capacity for change and growth. You're just saying she's too stupid for character development which only makes me think you're too stupid to understand her as a character. Giving her a tragic ending would not make her arc any more interesting. You're confusing tragedy for depth.
>>291279994She gets her conclusion in chapter 95. She walks around asking about everyone else's conclusions. And in the end, concludes that she's gonna eat Senshi's meat pie (which contains vegetables). Which I take as a sign that she's resolved herself to try new things she might not like and will be healthier both physically and mentally going forward.
>>291266208
>I'll use Kensuke to guide you Surprise that Kui already hinting at Kensuke betray/taking over by Lion
>>291277826Still warm
>>291280266I don't think it's happy. It's comic. Which is matching how the world immediately around Laois is and has been from the start. There's tragedy and happiness around him, but he's still just fucking clueless laois. It's kinda what I expected. It's like this show >>291280309 where he's saved the day, but he's psychotically dissatisfied with the taste of something and needs more. Laois' situation is completely unresolvable. Laois is a hurricane. You can't reason with him.>Izutsumi is Cat>Laois is Lister>Chilchuck is Rimmer>Denshi is Kryten>Marcille is Kochanski or HollyOk this works too well wtf. I can't unsee. What have I done.
Stop asking philosophical or existential questions. Just just consume tasty meal and then get excited for next tasty meal.
Laois should learn absolutely nothing by the end. It just fits. He's an autistic idiot.
>>291280550No it doesn't and no he isn't. Is it too much to ask people in a dump thread to actually read the manga?
>>291280532That's exactly the reaction Laois, Denshi, Itzusumi, Marcille and even Kabru should have had by the end. Not so much Chilchuck, he should just be "did you not learn any fucking thing from what we just went through?"These aren't Alices in Wonderland, they're Clowns in Wonderland.But, I do like that Kui avoided flanderization perhaps by actually forcing character development.>yet no haircuts... odd... is this a manga?
>>291279925In reality:Senshi would stare with that dopey faceMarcille would tease youChilchuck would raise an eyebrowIzutsumi would be the sameTheir reactions would be different once they see Marcille turn into a mystical animal and lick Laios’s cheek.
>>291280608Marcille does threaten to undergo that type of character development, but Kui thankfully doesn't allow it.
>>291279441>ok cheesy gimmick about eating monsters in dungeonsI think one of DMs greatest strengths is also why it has a hard time getting people to give it a proper chance. The droves of shitty one gimmick fantasy manga and anime have poisoned the well, so to speak, and make people wary of giving the high concept approach of DM an earnest go, unless it's explicitly recommended by someone. What makes DM so amazing is how well things come together on a thematic and narrative level the further you go and every aspect just keeps improving. The story gets grander, the overall art improves a great deal, the humor hits harder as you get endeared to all the characters, it's so damn good if you just give it am earnest go.
>>291273803Dang that's so hot.
>>291280608I bet Marcille looks really cute with short hair
>>291279925>>291280621Marcille would get flustered at first and ask if Laios really thinks-Then she's cut off mid-sentence as the succubus turns into a monster and she makes a face similar to this.
>>291280451Love that expression of the shapeshifter. This chapter had a lot of great facial expressions.
>>291280597I'm not saying what happened. I'm saying what should have happened because that would have fit the mood of at the start again and would give it this Hitchhiker's feel I think. I thought that was where it would really go 2bh. An anti-conclusion. Nothing's resolved and shit is worse than ever before.The ending is nice, but that's a very minor flaw too.It should be:>Laois learned absolutely nothing>Denshi is still eating weird things and not paying attention to things he should>Chilchuck is losing more and more hair from babysitting the crew>Marcille is still turning into a Sith Lord and hasn't given up on Laois' bullshit>And Izutsumi is still just a catAnd everything is burning around them and it's all their fault. I was just expecting that to become even more chaotic and like bellyflopping on a pizza.There, I am a genius. You guys are talentless hacks.
>>291266561Oh my, a bit more and this might be the first chapter in the current series dump that manages to hit the bump limit on its own IIRC.
>>291280717We were robbed the cutest Marcille face when this moment happens. Even cuter than love snooping Marcille or bath Marcille I bet.
>>291279925Honestly, I think those reactions would be spot on if they saw MarScylla. But if they only saw the regular Marcille succubus, I imagine it going more like this:>Senshi has a skewed view of elves, so he'd find Laios's taste a little strange. He'd give Laios a judgmental look as if trying to understand the lad tastes, which Laios would immediately misread as disgust.>Chilchuck would be annoyed because of his own bad experiences with relationships, but he'd mostly keep it to himself, aside from the occasional grumpy jab whenever Laios and Marcille got too close. Once he left the group, though, he'd quietly root for them.>Marcille would blush furiously and say something on the lines of: “I didn't know you saw me that way...” like in the picture but not with disgust, but extremely embarrassed. Things would be awkward between them for the next days: Laios would convince himself she hated him now, while Marcille wouldn't know how to act around him, even though part of her would be secretly thrilled which would make her confused since he's definitely not her 14-year old chuunni-bookworm type.I could see their relationship developing from there way later on. Shit, now I want any of them had seen it.>What about Izutsumi?Izutsumi.
>>291280839There's a good amount of discussion of the previous chapter in this thread, to be fair.
>>291280826That's an alternate ending, I think.
Ok forget it, this >>291280717 is way better than mine >>291280864
>>291280702I don't think Marcille could live with that sort of CHARACTER DEVELOPMENTThe amount of anime/manga shit that I have seen this in is STUNNING.Fuck, even Mulan did it I think.For me, if you do that, the hair has to bite them in the ass by the end of the show or whatever.>disguise didn't work because her hair was too shortOtherwise it's just a silly overdone trope.
>>291280839This daily might have the worst pacing in terms of replies.Too slow to consistently die within a day, but too fast to consistently last several days.Not really anyone's fault. Just a shitty coincidence.
>>291280891i mean, she kinda pull it off
>>291280950That's not short hair
We replaced annoying spammer schizo with retard speed reader schizo. Not sure this is an improvement
>>291280608That's how you know Dungeon Meshi is written by a woman.Marcille actually gets to keep her hair because Kui knows how important it is.
>>291280874The ending where the entire thing derails onto another wild ride?Could be an idea.Don't do an eva rebuild though or a FF7 remake though. Just start the manga at the end of this one and then do the alt ending. If you do a rebuild, it's gotta be at least Endless Eight with the pattern repeating many many times. Though obviously not like that show, that would be infuriating. More like stein's gate? I don't even like that show much though.
>>291280950>Not Furiosa shortThat would be kinda funny.>shaved Marcille>she immediately wants to end her life in embarassment
>>291279925Except for Senshi I think they're pretty accurate, it would definitely make things awkward with Marcille for a while until Laios rolls one of his nat 20's and manages to savage it in an unexpected way.
>>291280950Dat choker pulls the look together.
>>291280981>That's how you know Dungeon Meshi is written by a woman.Nah I think she was just trying to settle it down comfortably because there were enough dark moments in it that it wouldn't right just having a Red Dwarf ending kek.I'm never gonna be able to unsee that now kek.
>>291280908OP's irregular schedule and lack of foresight when dumping popular chapters certainly don't help though.
>>291280717>Marcille sees my Halfcille succubus
>>291281103>not both halfcillle and lolicille
>>291281035The thing is, they're comic, but not Flanderized so they do have tendency to break character for some form of payoff. That's another thing kui does well. When something doesn't fit the character, that's because some bullshit is about to happen that relates to them that none of the other crew knew about generally. And it's funny seeing that resolved and generally them returning to normalcy at the end of that arc. You have some growth throughout the manga, but what's funnier is when you see the manga build the potential for growth and seeing these characters doing everything within their power to no go along with it to the point where there are hilarious results. The characters are "indigestible" in the dungeon and it's hilarious.
>>291281145that's just a newborn baby
While the rest of the group is reluctant on party romance Marcille would be the one to enjoy all the flirting. There would be no stopping her once all the implications got out in the open.
>>291280864Kui just didn't want the smoke but it's clear she ships these two.
>>291281282It's incredibly obvious.
>>291275939No one is going to team up with the Ass-fucker of the Abyss, Anon.
I don't think Succubus could work on me, threre isn't something attractive enough to make me throw away my sense of self-preservation all together.
>>291279121the trick is to just learn grease then pivot into grappler
Marcille is Deedlit if she was a nerd instead of a princessDeedlit canonically outlives all her other party members
>>291275862because you are a retard?
>>291281446You're the type the succubus are most effective on.I can already see the supplemental comic. Gruff Anon saying your line in the first panel, Chilchuck giving you a warning in the second, then cut to what makes you tick and shocked form. Then flashforwards to Chilchuck nodding and saying "He retired after that..." while the rest of the party nods solemnly.
>>291281722I find Sydney Sweeney (I know, basic-ass taste) one of the hottest things to walk the earth but I wouldn't throw my life away to fuck her.
>>291281771>What is charm spellWhat makes you think you have a choice?
>>291281865I can understand this angle, but again there's nothing but magic that would work on me.
>>291281865So what a charm spell actually does? Does it decrease your cognitive ability to the level where you make stupid decisions?
>>291281771Going by Izutsumi and Laios' succubus you're going to see something really weird or really sad. Maybe both.
>>291280673He's looks devastated
>>291281928Most likely. Like being drunk or using sleeping medicine or shit like that.
>>291281937>Something really sadFuck, I'd hope not. That's why I can't play silent hill.
>>291281446>dude I would just le not get magically brainwasheddumbass
>>291281994To be fair Izutsumi's schizophrenia soul made her neigh immune and super-autism gave Laios a resistance so while this guy clearly isn't him it's plausible someone could tank a Succubus outright.
>>291279173I'd be inclined to agree if not for the fact that the succubus wasn't just Marcille Au Naturale, but manifested two very specific aspects that we know have stuck in Laios's memory. Being her smile and undone hair. Laios REALLY likes Marcille's smile and that's a fact. The undone hair, may not be necessarily physically attractive to him, but it is something he has (presumably positive) mental associations with due to that her being her appearance when she was first reviving Falin. The Succubus could have manifested as regular old Marcille, but it chose a Marcille with a particular style that allegedly appeals most to Laios, even though, it did fail initially. (And there's more questions to be raised from that fact -- how does a Succubus guise fail even?)
>>291279825>>291279846>>291280197based
>>291282126>>291282108Where are you guys getting the idea that Laios resisted it? I had thought it was intentional - the Succubus knew that he was wary of them, so it concocted a scenario that would allow it to disarm him, by initially convincing him that he had seen through them.
>>291281253That would a problem. It would affect group chemistry and function if Marcille started prioritizing Laios. Chilchuck is right again
every party should employ a Jack the Ripper sadist to deal with succubi encounters
>>291282171>I had thought it was intentionalI mean, that's totally possible: that all of it was a long con and only tricking Laios into thinking he was resisting the charm. But from a hunter's perspective, giving your prey a chance to choke slam you and draw a weapon doesn't seem smart.
>>291282171The succubus aren't sentient and cannot plan like that, they simply take the form of what the subject subconsciously desires enough to be paralyzed until they can suck them. The fact that it seemed that Laios attacked it means that things could have gone wrong. Izutsumi already proved that their disguises aren't infallible, even if her circumstances are unique. Laios eventually fell for it but the succ would have gone for Scylla Marcille directly if it meant no threat to it.
>>291282165No way Laious dick is that long.
>>291282171That theory doesn't explain why the succubus went for the bite at first instead of lowering his guard with words first.
>>291282355He's a gigantic autistic scandywegian. He's packing a hammer.
>>291282126>how does a Succubus guise fail even?I think Laios is kind of dense has never given much tought to girls that way and he was aware there were succubi around that might be enough to break their spellChilchuck got swarmed and Marcille is a dork that explains a part of why they got got
>>291280502I still have that old shitty I made
>>291271042It's useless for the midget to be a woman if the dog doesn't have a knot to stuff her
>>291282244>The succubus aren't sentient and cannot plan like thatWhere are you getting that from? They quickly adjusted their plan with Izu.
>>291277389post it in these threads please, if able
>>291273418Wait, is there more to this?
>>291278056>>291278165I think Thistle waking so that Delgal (Yaad) could say Good Bye to him was pretty much a fantasy version of pre-terminal clarity.
Sex with Thistle
>>291282998Tex with Sissle
>>291282900
>>291279530I never tried to cast Grease ever, when I played BG1 and BG2 around y2k
>>291273708I can't control dreams well, i can only realize i'm dreaming and shut it down if i don't like it.My dreams have no tastes and although they do have sounds they're never memorable.
>>291279603Worked fine in Act 1/2 WotR for me, I limped through some encounters by casting greases and pits on doors
>>291279925It makes sense. He underestimated Shuro’s feelings and almost got burned for it. In reality, they wouldn’t really care until >>291280717 happens.
>>291283220that's why it's always best to assume everything you do will be met negatively!
>>291280502>Chilchuck is Rimmerit's trueRimmer that scored
>>291283276Chilchuck is too competent to be rimmer
OP about to dump ITT
>>291281446I feel like succubi would just turn in to allies if there’s nothing personal to you.
