Chapter 61: >>291266032Chapter 62
>>291284848Oh snap, it's LORE DUMPING time.
>>291284884It's interesting that Opa is a criminal, the dude looks like your stereotypical elf noble. Also, Helki should have a bigger panel. I wonder what his nickname is.
>>291284927GIWTWM
>>291284905>>291284884well at least kabru already knows milsiril and helki
>>291285002Being a noble makes it easier to find out about and start using forbidden magic, maybe
>>291285033Yeah, the story must be much easier to follow if you personally know at least three of the characters.
>>291284884What's up with twins getting those stupid names just like Kiki and Kaka? Also Yugin a cute.
>>291285148It's a rule. If you're twins, you get stupid matching names.
>>291285210>>291285186Oh shit, I forgot that this had one of my favorite jokes.
>>291284945Bros, I think past Mithrun might be doing it for me...Damn androgynous elves...
>>291284927Very unnecessary shot
>>291284927>>291285257Directed by quetin tarantino
>>291285148Kiki and Kaka are just placeholders names equivalent to BBBB and AAAA.Because the party you initially get in Wizardry fucking sucks you have to create a bunch of characters until you roll good stats, and then you steal the gold and gear of the leftovers to buy decent stuff for your actual party. Their names and the fact that they were abandoned in a tavern references that.
>>291285332Snek!Snex
>>291285353Man, very effective use of breaking the panel space.
>>291285381Rapegoat
>>291285353>>291285381It's so good.
>>291285381god i Wish that was me
>>291285441The goat, right?
>>291285353I love the effect in this page, it makes the Demon look quite otherworldly.
>>291285381BAD TOUCH
>>291285353extradimensional creatures popping out of the pages is my favourite tropei also love how you can see the winged lion do it many times
>>291285381>gouging its finger into his eye while metaphorically and borderline literally raping himjesus fucking christ
>>291285441I would feed many desires do the lion. My mind would be lighter. It's not like my soul could lose too much more value.
>>291285353This shit legit spooked me when I turned page.Also what would chimera do in this scenario? Aren't they supposed to protect the Dungeon Lord?
>>291285406>the white goop coming out his eyeholeew
>>291285583I mean goat, whatever animal
>>291285282How convenient
>>291283055>Laios thinks humans win out over monsters for onceIt's always nice that Laios's monster autism is still tuned, for as much as he idolizes them, towards being realistic. He treats them more seriously than a lot of the cast does and considers them as their own beings, rather than just avatars for some issue or a simple obstacle to be overcome and never thought about again.
>>291285583Huh. I kinda have the opposite problem. I don't really desire anything that much, and it's making me lazy.Can I get some of your desires, anon?
>>291285594The Goat can probably just control her/dissolve her into nothing at will.
>>291284905>I memorized them out of personal interestWhat a freak
>>291285353Love this page, the demon's hands being outside the panels adds so much to the eeriness and creepiness of the scene. Definitely one of my favourites from Kui.
>>291285009>Kui: Thank you, Kabru. I thought so too.
>>291285332>SnakefuckerI can't believe Laios has more in common with this guy that with Licion.
>>291285654Sure. Take my desire to be remembered by those that didn't value me, my desire to not be seen, some specific sexual desires that i would rather not have, i'll make a longer list
>>291285656That's already proof of the idea they realize at the endingyou can get new desires
>>291285715ye make a .pdf and mail it to me
>>291285756If wasn't obvious already that Kui loves CRPGs.
>>291285780Best page incoming.
>>291285806best page
>>291285806Forgot both of those crazy ass Demon pages were in this one. What a chapter it was.
>>291285806Good god
>>291285806kino pageLooks like an album cover of a tech death metal band
>>291285806What an awesome page.
>>291285858>I think we're going to have to kill this guy, Caraboo.>Damn. (And that's not my name).
>>291285806Incredible page
>>291285880Elf Kabru... kawaii...
>>291285724>eating naked ladies as if they were corn flakesWhat a waste, couldn't it just fuck them or make them have orgies in his honor?
>>291285907Kek the captain is just like an AI agent
>>291285806GOAT page
>>291285907This page always makes me chuckle
>>291285952A portal that summons butts
>>291285837Is seeking approval really a rare wish?
>>291285952>He just stood there staring at the wall for 5 minutesI didn't catch that the first time I read this
>>291285907Memes aside, it's interesting how the changelings allow for subtle, visual characterization in a way that was not obvious with the characters' normal designs.Kabru's pretty-boy-ness is MUCH more obvious as an elf, whereas Mithrun is revealed to be a pretty manly elf given how his tallman form looks. Same goes for Senshi and Chilchuck. Senshi has the only facial hair we ever see on an Elf, pretty sure, which emphasizes just how manly of a dwarf he is (his tallman form does to on the cover gallery of them). Meanwhile Chilchuck looks exactly like some middle aged bum of a father as a tallman too, something you can't tell at all from his normal half-foot form.It's really neat and only shows up visually and completely doesn't matter for the story, but it's rewarding to be able to notice this stuff.
>>291285988Autism is hell of a drug
>>291285933I always liked how goofy the bid looks on this page. We'll see some even better ones later too.
>>291286001Why is he apologizing?
>>291284905>kabru tries learning japanese
>>291286023>Elves are quick to recognize when a man has a plan
>>291285806I love Kui's art so much it's unreal.
>>291286024He screamed like a little girl
>>291286024What do you do when your cell phone goes off in the middle of a meeting, anon?
It's time to kill Laios.
>>291285952I will not be tempted by the potential doujin scenarios of encountering Lycion's ass in a portal.
>>291286001Oh Kui fixed this scene in the tank to make it more consistent with the dumplings chapter. It looks a little awkward in the bottom right panel though.
>>291285742Isn't it the case that the demon didn't finish the meal? That he's table scraps as he says later.
>>291286130>Had his day ruined but got a sick new mountGuess the dullahan is calling it a wash
end of volume
>>291285353>ARE YA WINNING, SON?
>>291286169Fucking unions man
>>291286184Why would Mithurn have a desire for revenge before having any reasons to seek revenge?
>>291286191Thank you OP!
>>291285353Man, the anime is never going to be able to recreate this kind of dimensional fuckery, same happened with Witch Hat losing how often they play with panel borders.
>>291286124Whats the change?
>>291285353me, opening my fridge at 1am, looking for cheese leftovers
>>291285656https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MunWSqTgQLs
>>291286169>Marcille with the crown braid
>>291285009>>291285301>>291285332>>291285353The dream woman may be flat as fuck but goddamn she's prettyBased on side materials, she's an actress (theatre troupe actress of course, not movie star)
>>291286249Shuro's outfit. When this chapter first came up it wasn't consistent with what we saw in pic rel.
>>291285210What the fuck, I never realized that they were the trigger for most of the shit that Laios and co went through.
>>291285133S2 of "Last boss" made this joke too.
>>291285907Did Mithrun actually WANT to stay human lol
>>291286105mithrun's dialog reminds me of how the old testament lays out jewish dietary laws>>291286130lmfao>>291286151ACTUAL babychuck spotted
>>291286392Very fucking nice. She's such a qt.
>>291285985I would assume that friendship and approval are easier to gain than wealth and fame so the demon wouldn't meet as many where those desires are a major drive.
>>291285880Elf Kabru.....
>>291284848>>291284884Elves... everytime...
>>291286508Or maybe they're harder to concede so they have more potential to spiral out of control.
>>291285656I don't know if it's a more accurate translation than YenPress, but I liked EHScans choosing to have this be the only f-bomb dropped in the whole manga.
>>291286235I mean she says here >>291285656> So it didn't eat your desire for revengeIt's as if the demon can eat entire classes of desires, rather than specific desires, which makes sense.Like it can eat your desire to eat food generally, it doesn't just have to eat your desire to eat food today or a specific kind of food. The demon left his desire for revenge the same way he left the rest of his body, partly eaten, table scraps.
>>291286191thanks opsama
>>291284884>Well yes, I happen to be the son of Mikepas
>>291284968GO TO THE BATHROOMNOWYOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF
>>291286710IN A MINUTE
>>291285353>>291285381Didn’t know it at the time, but these were the first panels I ever saw of Dungeon Meshi
>>291285133
>>291285806I wonder if the anime will split this chapter and Laios dream or make them in the same episode.I hope they make a good juxtaposition between the ideal and the reality
>>291286046This is the chapter I realised I like Kabru.Before now he doesn't seem that likeable, interesting, or noble.This chapter he has a real challenge and learns more about the captain with us, and also about the true nature of the winged lion and what Laios is getting himself into.And there's that dark thought too, you realise killing Laios would maybe be justified, he really is meddling with things that he shouldn't be, and you can tell Kabru is struggling with the decision and his will to do what he thinks is right.
>>291285806God it’s so good
>>291284884>>291286695EH got his name backwards. They translated it as Mikepas, son of Opa. It's such a weird mistake to make, maybe they thought Mikepas sounded better as the name of that dude?>>291286573In the raws he's saying 殺しやる
>>291286000>Senshi has the only facial hair we ever see on an Elf, pretty sure, which emphasizes just how manly of a dwarf he isReminder: This is how Senshi is portrayed as an elf. In addition to refusing to carry stuff because it's 'heavy'.Even putting that aside, I think it's mentioned explicitly that Senshi is kind of a sissy for a dwarf. His initial miner group and Namari look down on him for not being into dwarven things like smithing and not taking care of his equipment. Being into cooking and using an adamant shield as a wok doesn't help that image.
>>291286987>Senshi has the only facial hair we ever see on an Elf, pretty sure, which emphasizes just how manly of a dwarf he isno, the shrooms probably just preserve some traits (possibly randomly) and the resulting forms may not be "legal" specimens of the race.Elves don't come with black hair either, for example, it takes half-elf ancestry to have thatAnd not how halfling Senshi is not masculine built unit at all, the opposite
>>291285157>Mr.Kabron stole the hippogriff's eggNo wonder it was so mad at Laius and friends.
>>291285282Of course, developer exits
>>291286191hantan lyë avestaina
>>291286105Compulsive carnivore elves?
>>291286954I don't think they can fit in the same episode, as I see it and taking into account season one so far it would beEP1: On Floor One (Parts 1 to 3)EP2: Bicorn + Stewed HeadEP3: Succubus (1+2) + Winged Lion (A little tight but it can be an extra long episode)EP4: Roasted Walking Mushroom + Six DaysThey also could have episode 3 being just the succubi, ep 4 being lion + mushroom, and EP5 being this chapter + the next one, but in any case Laios' dream and Mithrun's revelation would be in different episodes.
>>291285406>it's devouredis that grammar correct? It has?
>>291287144I bet they're the cannibals.
>>291285698I've always felt like this page is kui winking at the audience about DM itself having a lot of characters who end up not doing a lot.
>>291285381This is such a horrifying page, the violation is so upsetting to see.And so much more upsetting and tragic when it happens next in the manga.
>>291287183...yes"It has killed all of us"The demon probably wouldn't appreciate being called an it though.
>>291284905Me reading Lord of the Rings. >why, yes, I am Buhgi, son of Bubuh who was the son of Bahbi who fought against the Dark Darkness in the Battle of the River (which is east of the Mountain and was discovered by Pipan during his travels) alongside Blerghi the Powerful, Breeni who is the son of Brahni who fought in the War of Warring, and Borin. It was an era before the era of eras and the fight was splendid and terrible and then the ancients [insert 99 names here] did a thing and none of this is important to the current plot. Now Frodo sings a song and they feel homesick about their homes but that's interrupted by something interesting that will only last a page before another lore dump. Yes, I am stupid.
>>291284905And Laios is the sociopath and not this ball of mommy issues.
>>291286046That's his relieved face.
>>291285975disheveled pattadol...
>>291285858What an awful reading of Laios from a people's person
>>291287227I have to admit that for a few chapters after the chimera fight I felt like Laios in this panel.
>>291286130>solicitorfucking kek
>>291286396Leviticus, right?
>>291287233Maybe you should try reading the Hobbit instead, also the Silmarillion might give you a stroke.
>>291284905The skill Kabru possesses which Laios lacks, is the ability to view himself objectively, recognizing that he is an outlier and that others do not necessarily share his interests. He understands the futility of unilaterally gushing about his own hobbies.It is a tricky question whether this stems from the difference between a "human enthusiast" and a "monster enthusiast," or simply from a difference in personal learning.
>>291287396I liked the Hobbit and despised the Silmarillion. I tried to force myself to like Tolkien's works, but they're not my style.
damn elf making me feel weird in my pants
>>291285933I feel like teleportation scroll is really at odd with many aspects of dungeon exploration in this manga. Like why not using it to resuply food? Or why not having a permanent base in deeper levels and using the scroll to move people in and out.
>>291287231I feel like I don't see 'it has' contracted to 'it's' very often. Idk
>>291284884>Milsiril>going to the mission clutching a plushieThis girl is not okay. She was thrust from childhood into child soldierhood and never successfully recovered from the blow.That's why she wants to provide urchins and orphans with a safe fluffy childhood but since she's a hurt child inside that didn't get to grow up properly, she struggles to actually give them the right things, desperately trying with the few "tools" she knows, like toys and cake.
What if instead of killing the guy, say we just talk to him instead.Crazy, I know but I think the century old elves (And the honorary elf called Kabru) can manage to learn
>>291284884Someone pointed out earlier that one of the Canaries had the same marking as Cithis, but we see here that it's a different elf named Yugin.
>>291284864It's interesting to see what Kui lists as ingredients of a story. I like that "theme" is also part of those. I wonder how many manga authors nowadays have actual themes in mind when they aim for a new series. I'm not saying that DM is doing something groundbreaking here, I just think that many series that make it big do seem to have that effort put in to be able to have a conversation on that level, as opposed to your average axebait.
>>291285858This page represents a genuine plot twist, the reader is already aware of Laios's inherent goodness. When Kabru argues that "he shouldn't become the Dungeon Lord," it doesn't strike the reader as a particularly dire prospect. After his dialogue with the Lion, and while sensing a subtle, unsettling vibe from the creature, Laios contemplates the concrete benefits of conquering the dungeon.However, the revelation that "distorted desires that regardless of whether, they are good or evil, serve as 'food for the dungeon'" makes the reader realize that Laios is the absolute last person who should become the Dungeon Lord. It is a truly grim payoff for the title *Dungeon Meshi (Food)*.
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/289743815/#289743915> im doing it for you specifically, you have to be here every day. Er I hope you're still reading these >>289743888
>>291287616a lot of modern stories don't even have an overarching plot, let alone a theme
>>291287459She uses dolls in combat, anon. She's basically Alice from Touhou
>>291287636And Laios serves as wonderful cover to hide that Marcille's desires are just as tasty as his. I love this development.
>>291285837>all that delgal desires
>>291287459Interesting take. Though it helps to have a plushie around, when puppeteering seems to be her magic specialty, as seen in Kabru's memories last chapter.
>>291287474The problem is I think the elves have lived so long they've run into many short lived people who talking didn't work on. Imagine if you were a teacher of small children, but also not allowed to like, put kids in time out or send them to the principal or really inhibit them in anyway.Imagine doing that for one hundred years. At some point you just go "fuck it, imma send the kids to gay baby jail and they can fucking cry about it." It's easy to think that even when elves try to be polite, something goes wrong and they end up having to use "the muscle" anyway, so why bother? It's like the problem of normal people becoming crotchety and inflexible in their old age: they've lived long enough that their perception of trying to be more understanding and work things out with people is full of all the times it just didn't work or fucked them over.That said, this is just understanding them. They're still wrong, as shown by the fact that they still kind of fucked everything up, still treat people fairly miserably with no way to push back, and all of that. But it's not so simple that the elves are just thoughtless belligerents. It's genuinely hard to imagine most people who end up Laios's position being worth talking it out over. Hell, Mithrun already knew all of this and still fell.
>>291287636>makes the reader realize that Laios is the absolute last person who should become the Dungeon Lord.is it really that much of a twist? I feel like most readers could extrapolate that Laios would be a dangerous DM because his passion for monsters and general dismissal of humans. Not really even factoring in his morality.
>>291287437It is just a guess, but perhaps the installation process requires a specialized practitioner who can do a task that familiars cannot handle. Alternatively, there may be a restriction that imposed on either the scrolls or the dungeon itself, that prevents the mass introduction of new items, even if it is possible to extract things from the dungeon.
>>291287754>they've run into many short lived people who talking didn't work onevery DM we see is a elf/dwarf/gnome tho
>>291285858Goddamn, I got a chillWorst part is that we've seen winged lion already succeeded in tempting Laios, and he's really a bundle of exotic desires, from making friendly monster, edible monster, a way to coexist with monster, and stuffAnd winged lion already designed it in such a way that even the world he's shown isn't perfect, so as to make Laios desires for more
>>291284905I enjoy the meta level to the joke, that doubles as commentary on how to efficiently tell your story. I wonder if Kui had conversations like this with her editor and it stuck with her.>>291287426In this particular case, I think that the ability to analyze yourself and your impact on others stems directly from the nature of his field of interest, which is being able to read other persons and employ empathy in an analytical way. It comes as a bonus perk, so to speak.
>>291286130>solicitor (of death)My sides
>>291287616So, what is the theme of DM? I believe it is not about eating three meals a day, but rather the idea that "truth does not serve as a deterrent, and lies cannot win you friends."
>>291286169But Laios, our body also goes out of its way to make us feel unique pain from eating spicy food, yet here we are
>>291284927Scene at the production table during the anime adaption: "Let's bring in a footfag animator to do this scene here..."
>>291285806>>291285381I just realized we don't know what happened to the goat, and whether the page of the demon emerging is a hypothetical, or what actually happened after the goat ate Mithrun's desire. If it is the latter, I wonder how they managed to stop that shit.
>>291286191Thanks OP
>>291285975PATTACUTE
>>291285656>He'll eat food he doesn't want to eat>And live a life he doesn't want to liveActually a very cool and hard hitting line given the context of the manga
>>291287705>>291287736>She uses dolls in combat, anon. She's basically Alice from TouhouThat's probably just secondary result of that situation.Here >>291284884 she clearly is hugging the toy hoping (in vain of course) for whatever little illusion of comfort from it, literally like a child.
>>291288056Brought Izutsumi to mind, though I don't see any other parallels.
>>291285332>snakefuckerOh no it's literally me
>>291285353>>291285381RAPE
>>291285406>>291285656
>>291285133Cute callback.
>>291285806HOLY KINOKui just loves flexing so much
>>291285858The ultimate monster, the human male.
>>291285907He-ManI would actually read the Captains adventures if he looked like this.
>>291285975Wife material
>>291286130>>291284989>>291285186I love how Kabru and Mithrun basically got slightly ahead of Laios and managed to agitate and downright piss off all the monsters that then run into Laios' group, ready for some payback.>>291285210Incidentally, those jokers were also responsible for turning the hyppogriff into a griffin, causing senshe those additional moments of anxiety, until detective Laios comes in clutch. I love this chapter and how it's embedded in the previous story bits.
>>291286130LMAO
>>291286169I like these moments when Laios is proud to be human.>>291286191Thanks OP
>>291286710Not yet...
>>291287705Alice!
>>291285232Teleport punches are such a cool move. On that note, Mithrun is the closest thing in DM to a muscle wizard.
>>291287227it's just another layer to mithrun's characteron every level he's been dulled and blunted all except his memories surrounding his only remaining desire.and so his recollection of his own story and every single detail remains razor sharpand this is a contrast to Kabru, whose own existence is a side character in the lives of many people(especially the women). He has an innate sense of to what extent that most people can recall a story. And even when he tells others of his own story of being a survivor of Utaya, it's only a brief aside before he moves on with his life.Mithrun is drowning in his past while Kabru is trying to keep his head above his
>>291284945wait, so Mithrun and Kabru ran into the shapeshifter before Laios' party?
>>291287229>>291285381There's something genuinely disturbing about that snout pushing into the body as if breaking into some water surface, reaching somewhere it shouldn't be able to. The horror vibes of this and the previous page are great.
>>291287988I think it might actually have happened but the Goat was weak for a demon so they were able to contain it before it fully emerged. Maybe the swirls aren't there just because they look fucking sick and are showing a magical barrier.
>>291288460Basicslly every time they went "it looks like someone xame here before us" it was Mithrun and Kabru
>>291285907>completely stonefaced lie>the slighest shift in his eyeborw betrays itnothing could ever make me hate kui
>>291285381Oh so that's why he has a squinty eye.
>>291286385>>291288620I never noticed that. That's crazy.Not that I would blame Mithrun. Guy had to gain at least half a foot in height and at least 40lbs for probably very little loss in mana reserve.
>>291287616>I wonder how many manga authors nowadays have actual themes in mind when they aim for a new seriesThey barely have a few arcs planned in case they get axed, so themes are either non-existent or they do a complete dissonance like MHA where they have a theme but the story shows the complete opposite.
>>291284884>draw a girl>call it a boyi hate how much i want to fuck mithrun. i've never been into femboys or whatever, but come one, that's a girl!
>>291288696Not to mention his body changed from a scrawny twink to a muscled war vet
>>291287157That's quite a lot of content for ep1. I guess it depends on how much of the fighting can be condensed when animating it.
>>291286695>...But when Dungeon Meshi Chapter 1 came out in '14, I think Ryoko Kui really came into her own, commercially and artistically...
>>291286971>殺しやるahh, of course.
>>291285952Kek Fleki completey exhausted, since she's been steering the familiar for 6 days straight.
>you will never jerk off the captain to an emotionless climax Pulsing elf cock...
>>291286024His counterpart of the bells went off, when Laios happened to throw it during the escape from the gargoyles. The onomatopeia plastered over the upper part of the page is bells ringing loudly.
>>291285907>I have the weirdest boner right now
>>291285756This scenario is similar to Helck when I think about it. I wonder if there was an earlier fantasy or sci-fi story that serves as a common point of inspiration.
>>291285952Should've been Cithis's ass to come out of the scroll
>>291286695if capp'n looks like that despite his round face, is this elf gigachad henry cavill
>>291284884Yugin and Nils are cuties.
>>291286069Absolute sigma males! MGTOW!
>>291286385u die faster, gains are better, why not
>>291287227Lines up nicely doesn't it? About 69% of what's written in adventure paths will go straight past your player's ears if you try to play it straight, they'll hyperfocus on their own interests (gathering 20 different animal/mascot niggers while tryna prevent Cthulu from rising from the oceans) completely ignoring every bit of detail that's laid out by writers or your own additions to the plot that isn't magical menagerie shenanigans.
>>291285806Heavy metal page.
>>291287961The most obvious one for starters would be the exploration of hunger/consumption/desires in all its varieties and how they drive us, be it good or bad.
>>291286034lol
>>291284905Based Kui shitting on garbage long running series.
>>291285381https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYh_Ffqy8g
>>291286328Kabru wasn't next to him!
>>291287783Well, sure, but that fits too, don't it? They're overly worried about how the short lived races handle dungeons, but have yet to find a way to stop their own individuals from getting got. It's a perfectly natural set up that only pushes them to be more and more belligerent about it, secure in the knowledge this is the right way to handle it and, if anything, maybe they need to be more forceful and proactive. Clearly these "half measures" aren't working!
>>291287988I think it's hypothetical, given that if that had actually happened it would be even worse than Utaya and Mithrun starts out the story with 'it wasn't as bad as Utaya'. I don't think the demon managed to get completely out at Utaya and that's the worst disaster the Canaries have had so far
>>291289303Right, it's one of the most noticeable continuity errors outside of the first volume. I had to laser my Ryoko Kui tattoo off when that chapter came out.
>>291288075Marcille's right there. It's fallen off recently since her other subplot is coming to the fore, but she spent most of the manga so far being the most uncomfortable on this quest.But it's largely a metaphor for how our desires are often at cross purposes with each other, and living means prioritizing some over others.
>>291285332Is that the real lady turned into a lamia or a monster made to look and act like her?
>>291285157that panel of laios with the minotaur is one of my favorite jokes for some reason.overall the "out of context adventure we never saw" bit is always funny to me
>>291285353>>291285381RAPEGOAT IS HERE!
>>291288792Those are short chapters, fights don't use too much time and they're able to skip the OP in the season premiere. Also the rest of the chapters would be kinda awkward if they spend 1.5 episodes on Floor One, but the pacing would be a little too slow with two full episodes.
>>291285985It's certainly a desire that will be overshadowed by want of food and shelter in trying times
>>291284884>>291285148>>291285170>Matching names>Similar clothes>Finish each others sentences>Synchronized sentences>Co-dependence, at least in their formative years>One of them HAS to be the evil oneHaving a twin sounds horrible
>>291285381sigh *unzips dick*
>>291289392i think fake illusion thing. marcille's dead dad comes back to life in her dungeon
>>291285806Kui flexing hard right here, fucking awesome.
>>291285806>suddenly, BERSERKi love when a style with rather simple designs (i know drawing armors is a pain, you know what i mean) suddenly pulls a double spread like this
>>291284884>>291287459>Milsiril is just elf woman Michael Jackson>That means Kabru is Meshi's equivalent of Macaulay CulkinPoor bastards
>>291285858>>the moment you realised that creepy nerd in class is destined to become the mad scientist with the doomsday device
>>291289448Does he give Laios his blessing to marry his daughter?
>>291285858>I think we're gonna have to kill this guy, Kabru>damn
>>291285952>>291286101>what are you doing, step-elf?
>>291287474>What if instead of killing the guy, say we just talk to him instead.What if YOU shut up? Ever think about that?
>>291284927Did kabru also help to shower him, or the elf just got stinkier
The criminal canaries are too charming for me to ever distrust them. They'd eat me alive.
>>291285907He's built like a brick shithouse.
>>291286105>>government who wants to collect import tariff calls it a vegetable>>local businesses who wants to import and sell the stuff calls it a fruit because they don't want to pay the tariff In this case there was a winner, guess who it was?
>>291289140there's a reason why Humans are considered the "baseline" in these worlds
>>291289564I have these questions too anon..... but main cast doesn't seem to shower much either. maybe everyone in dungeon smells bad.
>>291286130Motherfucker, I forgot it's all their fault!
>>291286191Thanks OP.
>>291286124SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>291285353TADAIMA>>291285381ITADAKIMASU
>>291289564they had to wash off the changeling spores so he got at least one good scrub
>>291289654Everyone has infinite purified unicorn water there’s no reason not to unless they want to be lazy.
>>291285756Gotta love that Escher water thingAlso>The first two goetian demons are lions
>>291285698Interesting how in the story his eye was gouged out but art suggests he just keeps it mostly closed. Healing magic, lacking the desire to open it?
>>291289697TIThis
>>291285907I wish I looked like this.
>>291289862Glass eye. Now it's a permenant lazy eye
>>291289862It's a prosthetic
>>291285036would you rather eat a baby goat or a matter baby?
>>291289862Its a fake eyeball, and the eyelid is just naturally drooping because he can't really control it. We see as much later on when his head is injured and the eye is destroyed.
>>291285239>Those damn elves>making men gay with their beautiful men
>>2912901863rd hole
>>291287198Kui has such interesting world building for her world and yet we're not getting more stories. I want to see more of this world! Come on!
>>291285353Beautiful page
>>291288134Oh I get itIt's a bit of a joke on imitation meat
>>291285009>NTR out of no whereMithrun...
>>291285975I LOVE PATTY
>>291289448>>291289532>>291289392Its more like he make Giant Snake into Lamia that look like his ex-lover
>>291286169
>>291285381He didn't even have to do it for a snack he just popped that eyeball for fun.
>>291286130Shit, no wonder he's so mad
>>291286191Thanks OPI think this is where Mithrun growing on me
>>291287426Kabaru is kind of meant to be reverse Laios, in that where Laios is the leader of his group and is a monster expert. Kabaru is a people expertKabaru's party is kind of meant to mirror Laios'. But it's also meant to highlight the importance of Laios' skill, as Kabaru is depicted as this killing machine social genuis but he gets wiped easily by low level monsters. It's a fun contrast. Mostly he serves as a mouth piece for logic for the going ons because he both insightful but impotent that it allows him to serve this function well.
>>291285656The raped male returns to the dungeon to be raped again
>>291290567Not exactly NTR since its not like Mithrun and Sultha actually had anything going on before he joined the canaries.
>>291285110>>291285133So... did he just basically boil it with nothing else? Not even some salt?
mithrun rape.
>>291291108They probably don't have salt, or Kabru didn't want to waste what meagre amount he has right away.
>>291285724>>291285353I really want to see more of this world. Demons for example look really interesting and otherwordly
>>291291108where are they going to get the salt?I see no salt golems wandering around.
>>291285837See I told you, physical desires are low tier which is why orcs and animals are ignored by demons
>>291285353>>291285381>>291285806Kui is having fun flexing now that the demon is in play.>>291285907Mithrun confirmed not a twink.
>>291285880>>291285907Wouldn't being an elf have some kind of complex on Kabaru? He even wanted to be a Canary as a child (at least he claims)
>>291289140Steroid users be like
>>291285806I like the sudden shift of even heavier stakes that comes with such striking art
>>291285952>glossier than usualIs that a good thing or a bad thing for hair?
>>291291344good
>>291286105Keep telling your self that Cabron.>>291286130Kek, we all wish we could do that to solicitors sometimes.
>>291286987>>291287041Considering neither chil or Laios get a beard as a Dwarf but Senshi has a beard as a half-foot and elf makes me believe that A. the changlings don't really mess with your hair much/don't rapidly grow or cut hairB. Kui didn't want to lose too much of their indentify characteristics by altering something like facial hair (Senshi has a beard (because he is a dwarf) so Senshi has a beard when he is an elf and half-foot)
>>291291284I guess even if he had a somewhat naiive childhood desire to join the canaries, he's probably gotten over it by now, especially considering how his time with Milsiril kinda soured his views on dealing with longer lived races.
>>291291090illiteracy? it says right there he left her behind when he joined the canaries. extra material doesn't disprove it either.
I forgot to ask a few weeks ago, but was that geomancy spell Faligon used -- is that something Falin already knew or was it Thistle/Red Dragon related?
>>291286848There's something about this manga that just catches you, you know? I started earlier but god am I happy I stuck with it until the end
>>291287636>>291287759I disagree, both on the matter of there being a twist or that Laios is too dismissive of humans and overly passionate of monsters.Laios has been consistently shown to be more considerate than how people think he is, and his desires have generally been pretty small and simple. He's only in the dungeon out of simple, undirected curiosity and wanderlust, his interest in monsters is far more tethered to the ground than most people think (especially when he chides Senshi and accepts his hypocrisy with Kensuke), and probably the most important bit of all is how the Lion tries to entice himI mean, look at that vision. The Lion can tell that Laios wouldn't actually be enthralled by the idea of creating fantastical new creatures that are beautiful and deadly to fill his dungeon with. The dream he shows is meager. People are poor and there's strife, but many are also content, and it's honestly more focused on his friends than on monsters. Kui is basically shouting to the reader that Laios wouldn't wanna be some dangerous Monster Lord, as instead he's given a vision of a simple but very practical life to entice him into a seat he's only considering because he might need to do so to save Falin. Instead of his wildest dreams being fulfilled, it's "if you have to do it, it won't be that bad." Of course, this too would be corrupted, but it just hammers in pretty heavily that Laios's desires are otherwise really simple and not as dangerous as people would think, especially since many of even his closest friends have been mistaken in their assumptions across the entire journey. This chapter states that those with more complicated desires are the absolute last ones you want as a Dungeon Lord, and Laios definitely aint that.
>>291286124Darker Kabru
>>291287459Nah the more we learned about Milsiril the more there's something seriously off with her. At this point she was already an accomplished swordswoman. She has never died, not once, in a dungeon, which is an insane feat when you really think about it. It's not like Senshi who was just eking out a humble living sticking to the upper levels, she was directly challenging the dungeon master and demon doing their worst and they can't get her. She saved Mithrun, but she knows it wasn't a mercy or a favor, just another doll to weaponize. It worked out in the end but we all know that shit was the longest of long shots.She doesn't connect with her own people. She doesn't even really connect with her own children once they age out, she dotes on them but we can see the relationship cool as her coddling wears thin. She craves the love but also the dependence, the devouring mother. Why is Kabru fucking ass at killing monsters after being trained by a woman who is peerless at clearing dungeons? She wanted him to fail and give up.
>>291291506It doesn't say that they were in a relationship either. It says he loved her and then left that love behind, could have been a completely one-sided thing
>>291291524 Probably Thistle related. I think chanting meant you were drawing mana from the environment instead of yourself; and Marcille figured something big was coming.
Wait is Mithrun a guard or criminal? He IS the captain afterall
>>291286963I like him for this chapter too, but more because it shows how flawed he is Like Kabru is undoubtedly the most pragmatic, perspective, and introspective character, but he's ended up making very extreme decisions regarding Laios despite only ever talking to the guy for like 20mins. For someone that's supposed to consider everything and be objective, he's ended up letting prejudice and stigma lead him to making a rather rash judgement of someone's character. He's also made shitty gauges of other people's character in the past, like he was almost killed permanently because he completely misjudged the head of the black market.Then there's everything with this with the Demons getting out. It's basically a Super-Utaya, and even the normal variety is what he's been fearing the entire time. It's made exceptionally clear that Kabru isn't actually making very objective decisions at all. Fear, paranoia, and unfounded disgust has lead him to go from unjustly viewing Laios poorly to considering having to kill him. He's confident in his perception and judgement, but ultimately it's just a coward.And it's great bookend to how we originally met him: quickly getting wiped by one of the simplest of creatures because he massively over-estimated his abilities even AFTER he did everything to be careful and practical. He's grown since then, but growing hasn't erased his flaws. It makes him into a great character and foil to Laios: someone who gives people every reason at surface value to think he's an airhead, but is instead more perceptive and deliberate than people give him credit for.
>>291291794He's a guard, with Pattadol as his second in command.
>>291291810Even the extras kinda feed into it more>>291286105>>291286130With Kabru being arguably even more of a child towards eating monsters than Marcille (even when accounting for trauma), or how him and Mithrun (even though it's Mithrun's fault in this extra) is effectively the fukken>smiles while pouring oil down drainparty in the dungeonThe guys have zero capabilities at actually being pragmatic and objective when it counts, and go against the core morals and themes that have been echoed throughout the rest of the manga. There's a reason why Kabru is shown eating unbalanceds meals early on, and then the stat pages for this chapter are even worse. Eating well and living within balance in even the dungeon is to have appreciation for life, as Senshi repeatedly establishes, and Kabru is in contempt of that.
>>291285381What a piece of shit, he didn't have to gouge his eye out, fucking goat.
>>291291571I agree for the most part, but I think in a scenario where Laios did become a more traditional dungeon master, he'd gradually be corrupted and distilled into a very tactical DM and that would make his dungeon very dangerous. But not existentially so unlike a certain someone else who has far more complex desires.And I feel that should be obvious to most readers to not call it a twist.
>>291291900Shouldn't have kicked
I don't quite get Mithrun's stint as the dungeon lord. So his wish was to have never joined the caneries. So did it alter reality or did the goat just create a fantasy world. Is the real lover of Mithrun still out there? His companions, were they just illusions too? We see Coyote for example in the dungeon but we only see Milsiril afterwards saving him.But then again real people enter the dungeon to pilfer. So it wasn't all a dream. How long was he like that? He entered the dungeon with the whole group of Caneries, and I assume they were all at the bottom of the dungeon. But they find him it's as if they were part of the same group like it all happened in an instantDid he take control of that certain dungeon or did a new dungeon manifest for him which then vanished?
>>291292055It almost seems to me that it was all in his head and he'd been lying there in front of the broken mirror wasting away physically
>>291291506The jp ver doesn't imply she was mithruns actual lover, just someone he had feelings for.
>>291291794He's a guard, and technically captain of the squad, so in charge of Pattadol, even though she's the only real 'sane' one of the two.
>>291290741>it's a "chilchuck has to suffer" episode
The more I think about it, Marcille really is more Laios as people perceive him.Like I was originally gonna make a post talking about>hey, actually the original posse was kinda weird, wasn't it>Laios and Marcille was both willing to go to crazy lengths to save Falin>Chilchuck is the odd one out>if Senshi wasn't there, he'd be a third wheel instead of a straight man or just one of the partybut thinking about that made me think more about Marcille especially and it's like, she's the one that's often way more inconsiderate and simplistic, and comes up with crazier plans. She's the one that angers the undine and then needs to do crazy stuff like killing it to eat when they're near a party wipe to keep going, even as the others push to send her back. Laios just wants to eat monsters, whereas Marcille just forbidden ancient magic. There's little things like how her shapeshifters are flawed whereas Laios' are almost perfect aside from clothing details, and you can say her attitude towards eating is an detail towards her being too inconsiderate of the situation or out of balance.Which feeds more into the big reveal that Laios genuinely is nowhere near the "oh shit, this guy cannot be dungeon lord character." It's Marcille.
>>291292055I think the world Mithrun created was similar to the fake golden kingdom area that Thistle made for the residents (in this case, though the main entrance (or at least the one that Mithrun used) was the mirror. That's the 'world' he normally spends his time in, while the rest of the dungeon would be dedicated to keeping out intruders. Though obviously due to the demons influence/adventurers skills, people managed to get further and further in to break/steal shit. As for the companions, I'd guess they're all fakes, assuming that the other team members probably died or left when Mithrun took over the dungeon. > Did he take control of that certain dungeonHe took control of that dungeon, we see later with Marcille that the DM can pretty much entirely rework the physical layout of the dungeon if they want to, going as far as to merge whole floors.
>>291292055>Is the real lover of Mithrun still out there?She's back in elf land, so I imagine.>His companionsThose who were real were presumably killed, possibly eaten by the demon or left on their own accord. I think it's ambiguous on purpose.
>>291291794He's the highest ranked guard we see, captain of the captains. He doesn't really assert his authority though, except for the end where he accepts Laios deal.
>>291292159I think it's sort of inevitable aspect of how Laios is the protagonist and Marcille is the deuteragonist. They need to have a lot of similarities and common points of interest because both need to tie back into the plot and theming, even if in slightly different ways.
>>291286191Thanks, anonsito.
>>291291571Whether they desire it or not, the Dungeon Lord becomes evil.And Laios is the perfect person to serve as dungeon fodder.The author explicitly states this at every opportunity.
>>291292492That's nonsense, Misurn wasn't evil as dungeon lord.
>>291292577Now we don't know that for sure
>>291292577
>>291292492you really gotta admire how big Kui draws Laios's honkin schnoz without it ever actually looking distracting.
>>291292492>the Dungeon Lord becomes evilThat is true>Laios is the perfect person to serve as dungeon fodderThis is not true>The author explicitly states this at every opportunityThis is not true>imageOnly one perfect dungeon fodder is in this image, and it's not Laios
>>291292650Not him, but that doesn't say it's evil. He created something warped and twisted, but that could just be strange, fake, and contradictory. The fact that "convoluted" is the term used, and given the nature of his wish + how it was granted, points more to how the dungeon more just reflects how twisted a sham of love and such is and that Mithrun settled for it
>demon likes complex desires the most>laios has relatively simple desires>marcille does not>when marcille is dealt with, the demon realizes what laios's most complex desires actually are>they're not monsters, or falin, but they're about marcille and that's what he uses to finally successfully tempt laios
Would you this high T gigachad alpha male (elf)
>>291292492Evil Laios taking evil Marcille’s hand in evil marriage by evil consensual force and consummating their evil marriage via evil honeymoon sex until they have evil half-breed/elf/human dungeon babies.
>>291292577I wouldn't say evil but it seems like all dungeon lords DO eventually go insane and stop caring about other peoples lives when it comes to protecting the dungeon. Mithrun himself admits this, so we can assume he went through that as well.
>>291292577Mislun reflects on the evolution of a mindset that accepts violent traps as a matter of course in the operation of the dungeon.>>291292657In this hypothetical scenario, it is explicitly stated that Laios becomes an enemy of humanity.>>291292729The desire to make others eat monsters and to eat them oneself, or to turn others into monsters and become one oneself, is, frankly speaking, grotesque and bizarrely complex. If that demon were to twist Laios’s wish into reality, the result would be a world where he, his companions, and every inhabitant of the globe transformed into monsters and engaged in mutual cannibalism. In Japan, such malicious wish-granting objects are known as "Monkey's Paws" or "Kappa's Hands."
>>291285186>>291285210>>291285232Who's coat do you think Mithrun is wearing?Falin's?
>>291291810In fact, this chapter reveals that Laios is essentially an unwitting detonator charging straight into a powder keg. This, I believe, justifies Kabru’s wariness and the elves’ arguably excessive efforts to keep things under wraps.
>>291292771This is the ideal male bodyYou may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
>>291292828Yep, its hers
>>291292862True, though I imagine the demon would want to let things fester naturally since the moral degradation probably leads to new desires as well.
>>291285806i can't believe people say that DM has bad art
>>291292908It was like one schizo that seems to have finally been range banned. Dude got really worked up about red shade on noses and trigger’s involvement.
>>291287988The AB states that the central watchtower (Mithruns dungeon) is sealed, so Milsiril or others working with her presumably managed to use the sealing spell to defeat the demon and clear the dungeon before it broke free.
>>291289324Yep, iirc Fleki says at some point that there are no records of what happens when a demon actually escapes from the dungeon (presumably because if that happened the world would basically end or get wish nuked eventually like we see in a later chapter), so Utaya was most likely the worst on record, or at least, the worst in a REALLY long time, since it got all the way to the monster overflow stage before the canaries managed to seal it.
>>291292492Man, I really wanted to see maousama Laios, I know Kui is not going to write something like this, but I wish there was at least an oneshot about this possible route.
>>291292729Isn't the desire to normalize eating monsters and seeing them as more than just evil creatures extremely complex? Pretty sure he demon was fine with getting either Laios or Marcile really.
>>291292836>essentially an unwitting detonatorNah, that's just the problem.Laios is rarely ever a truly unwitting detonator. That's the real danger of him. He's someone that's fully conscious that he's about to do something crazy, taboo, or full-out forbidden-and-for-good-reason, and continues to do so anyways. The pitfall that Kabru and others fall into is that they look at Laios, see his whole deal with monsters, and pair it the fact that he eats them to then think he's a through-and-through monster-aholic that would fully obsess over the control of them that being a Dungeon Lord would afford him. Instead, while he ultimately does enjoy doing so, he begins his diet out of desperation, fully grasping the situation, and being wholeheartedly able to commit to doing the extreme because he refuses to accept failure, even though he knows that the alternative can often be considered worse than death and isn't just affecting him.He's far far far worse than just an airhead or a monster fantatic. Something infinitely worse than someone who doesn't consider the fallout of their decisions is someone that does and then is able to conduct himself ostensibly unbothered by it. Like he already knows something's up about the Lion, but with the alternative being potentially no Falin, he won't think twice if it comes down to it.
>>291293162Yeah he probably would've been generally okay with either, as both he and Marcille had potentially world spanning desires that it could use as an excuse to get them to free it from the dungeon.Though as it is, Marcille taking over as the DM was definitely kind of an emergency thing with the canaries looming over the group and all, without that, I imagine the lion probably would've picked Laios if given the choice between them in a neutral setting. The lion seemed quite quick to start pushing Laios into going to find him/become the new DM in her place, since Marcille unfortunately doesn't really 'get' monsters or how to use them effectively, so she was still struggling against the canaries.
>>291292773The dungeon would do fucked up shit to create Marcille/Laios babbies who are also monsters to satisfy Marcille's desire since she's a mule
>>291292771Would marry
>>291292809>>291293162Getting people to eat monsters isn't really his desire. Remember the vision he showed Laios. The dungeon was closed off from adventurers, and banned poachers. People didn't come far and wide to see a monster kingdom and taste its delicacies, it just traded valuable monster goods with the outside world, and those who live there were either already in the dungeon or already agreed with his value. It's also a rather poor kingdom that's filled with strife. The Lion showed Laios this because it's very clear that Laios' greatest desire is to rescue and restore his sister. A desire that would be instantly fulfilled just by being Dungeon Lord for 5 minutes (barring the fact that he'd probably be bewitched super quickly). Since all his desires are simple ones, he's just trying to convince Laios to live up to the potential responsibilities that he's been considering taking up for a while, and that it'd be useful to keep the Golden Land a dungeon if he intends to fulfill his promise to Yaad.Basically, the Lion is actively trying to complicate things. It's why the kingdom he proposes to Laios has so many problems and everyone's trying to figure things out, so that he grows desires in him. Which is funny in a way, because it meansA) All the people trying to instill responsibility in Laios could backfire if he became Lord, as no doubt his isolationist policies and protection of his friends would only grow until he becomes opposed to humanity (for reasons ironically pretty much completely detached from monsters)B) It hammers in the later points about new desires being able to be instilled, especially if even the Lion is able to instill them instead of just fulfill and consume them
>>291284884Mithrun had such hopes and optimism.
>>291293298>Laios' greatest desire is to rescue and restore his sister.it actually is not that if we take the Lion's curse at face value
>>291285381So, after this page I guess it's no longer a spoiler to refer to the lion as a demon that wants to eat them?At this point in the story some part of me still felt there had to be some other perspective. Because the lion is so goofy and sincere when talking to Laios. It's not until he attacks Thistle that I actually understood he's really the bad guy.
>>291293333There's also just a lot of ways to interpret the Lion's curse, if you wanna get into it. At times, it honestly feels less like he went after Laios' greatest desire(s) and more just that he identified the best way to bother Laios the most amount of times for the rest of his life. Quantity and frequency over individual severity. It's was 1000% more petty than anything else and I love him for it.
>>291285381>personality excretion in my dungeon cooking manga
>>291293415He was the dungeon meshi
>>291285036Dost thou wish to live deliciously (in dungeon)?
>>291285353Still just as horrifying as it was the first time.
>>291285381Metaphysical rape on levels never before witnessed.
>>291293418>anime beavis and butthead
>>291285806Fucking KINO
>>291285880Sex with elf Kabru.
>>291293298Laios happily recalled how, in that world, no one had any qualms about eating monsters, while Chilchuck groaned, "It's a nightmare."You should frankly admit that Laios harbors a ghastly desire.
>>291286710>>291286779>>291288305My keks can be heard from Saturn
>>291291090I thought the primary thing that defines NTR is the feeling of jealousy?
>>291293816Source
>>291293831the primary thing that defines NTR is using a girl as a proxy for violating a boy you have repressed gay feelings towards. It's why making him watch is so important and all the focus is on his feelings and torment while the girl is just a prop spouting generic npc dialogue
>>291287481They're also called golden voice, which sounds mind control related. Maybe it's the "I use mind control" tattoo they have to get.
>>291285036Oh fuuuuck.
>>291285353Oooh FUUUCK!
>>291293831Might be used that way now as a general term, but I was under the impression that NTR had to specifically include someones partner actively being taken away/betraying them for someone else.Otherwise its kinda like calling someone a cuckold even if neither party are married or even dating. Might fly as a casual insult but technically its wrong.
All this talk about goats, and pigs, and whatnot made me thinkIt's the "animal disguise" of the demons chosen at random, or are they chosen accordingly to the poor bastard that will get groomed into a lord of the dungeon?Do they read your mind and choose your "favorite" animal?What came first, the winged lion, or Delgal's kingdom's winged lion symbolism?
>>291285772Magic wizard 4chan be like.
>>291285806so there's something im still confused on, doesnt the demon just eat desires because they're tasty? is the whole "gets power from desires and break out of the dungeon" thing a red herring?
>>291293980In Japan, the genre where someone loses the person they are interested in to a rival is recently being referred to as BSS that distinct from NTR.It is an abbreviation for "Even though I liked her before he did.（僕が先に好きだったのに:Boku ga Sakini Sukidatta noni）"
>>291293985The winged lion appears to have been a heraldic animal of the kingdom before the bad shit, so he likely takes advantageous forms.
>>291293985The winged lion was originally a guardian-like symbol/emblem for the golden kingom, Laios mentions it near the end of the manga. So yeah, the demon most likely just copied its looks in order to endear itself to Thistle/the GK residents as though it were an actual guardian deity thing. As for the other forms it chose, who can say, might've been random or might've been tied to the culture of the area the dungeon was in, or to just the DM's personal preference.
>>291285975I like that Pattadol is kinda like a doting mom to her middle age captain.
>>291291810>Like Kabru is undoubtedly the most pragmatic, perspective, and introspective character, but he's ended up making very extreme decisions regarding Laios despite only ever talking to the guy for like 20mins. For someone that's supposed to consider everything and be objective, he's ended up letting prejudice and stigma lead him to I know, right. He really shouldn't have interferred in the fight for Laios sake. The elves and canaries are good actua ...>to making a rather rash judgement of someone's character.Wait, what? All of Kabru's worries about Laios are justified. Kabru acted irrational over empathy and sympathy when he stopped Mithrun and his realisation that Laios may have to die is when his reason slowly returns mainly because of how bad the consequences really are. I think your sympathy for Laios is twisting the whole situation around here.
>>291294008I think it may be that the elves are either slightly mistaken on the demons true intentions, OR the idea of it 'gaining power' is meant moreso in the way of the dungeon growing in actual magic power to the point where it can overflow + the demon can convince someone with strong enough desires to take it to the surface. So still relies on the power of desires, but it may be partly the power that adventurers have as a collective over the whole dungeon (as we see in the 'first level' chapters when the canaries are stoking everyones excitement/desires with money)
>>291293873Zankuro
>>291294086thanks
>>291286636>>291286545>>291286450>>291286392Why is there so much fanart of Mithrun's Chimera snake girlfriend who appears for one chapter? Is this a woman thing?
>>291292729Laios's desire isn't too complex, but it is really rare and that's enough to appeal to the demon.
>>291294169He has to make monster country. It's incredibly complex.
>>291292729Maybe take the shipping goggles off for a moment.
>>291294153Mithrun is popular character and the lamia version of his past crush is a canon companion
>>291294206Ahh, I get it. There's a certain bitter yearning to it as it never came to be, yet the Laima version never truly loved him. Or did it? Was there a silent heartbreak as the goat ate him? Most likely not, but that blank passive stare we see hides whatever was going on inside.
Why didn't Mithrun's eye get healed anyway? Healing magic is extremely good in Dungeon Meshi.
>>291294029>>291294038However, there is no evidence to rule out the possibility that the winged lion of this country's folklore that far from being a purely mythical figure, was actually a demon that once interfered in this region.
>>291294229I guess because the eye injury was inflicted by the demon, same with his ears so they can't be healed because mana is initially from demon. Otherwise all demon's misdoing could be fixed with magic.
>>291294229Going by the extra content, replacing actual body parts is usually a kill-and-revive situation, and even that generally has to be done very soon after the loss of the body part in question. The more time after the injury, the less likely you are to regain the part. I'd guess that either Milsiril found Mithrun too late after his injury to heal him, or she wasn't willing to kill+revive him just to get an eyeball back, or they had already sealed the dungeon by the time they found him and the kill+revive method wouldn't have worked since the dungeon magic/rules were no longer in effect.
>>291294169Given that the succubus chapter revealed Laios’s ideal partner to be his "monster-transformed companions," and the lion chapter showed his ideal world to be one where his companions eat monsters without hesitation. Thereby exposing his deeply twisted desires, why do some people still consider his cravings to be simple?
>>291285975Poor Pattadol being the only sane member of her group. No wonder she's more high strung than even Marcille.
Hot take: Dungeon Meshi is sci-fi.
>>291294370>"I'm Elfo!"
>>291294370Star Trek is scifi. Star Wars is fantasy. LotR is fantasy. The Fly where scientist's experiment with teleportation combines him with fly is scifi. Batman is scifi. Superman is fantasy. Turtles is scifi.Dungeon Meshi is fantasy. One Piece is fantasy. Gantz is scifi. Naruto is fantasy.Is Ghostbusters fantasy or scifi? How about Attack on Titan?
>>291294594>Turtles is scifi.Turtles is urban fantasy
>>291294370Dungeon Meshi is sci-fi in the same way Star Wars is fantasy.
>>291294644Anon, theres giant spaceships and aliens with otherworldly tehcnology. They fight with genemutated aliens against radioactive mutant aliens. Its as sci-fi as sci-fi gets.
>>291294658it's a...sorcery opera?
>>291294664those are all fantastical elements introduced to an urban backdrop still grounded in familiar things like fast food, tv networks, arcades, and teen sports
>>291294690You mean sci-fi elements, making it at most urban sci-fi.
>>291294370I asked google and it said it's high fantasy but aplauded Kui for injecting pseudo scientific concepts like monster behavior and biology. So fantasy with scifi elements.>>291294594Ghostbusters is both, with fantasy problems tackled with science solutions. Attack on Titan is low magic dark fantasy with scifi elements
>>291294702They got magic and demons and ghosts and shit.
Can you stop dumping gay shit, please
>>291294762Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Checkmated, outwitted.>>291294765No.
>>291294762Turtles got Technodrome and Krang, the brain piloting a mecha and the main cast are turtles genemutated to humanlike fighters. It's sci-fi as it gets
Isn't the difference between science fiction and fantasy whether or not there are scientific settings and explanations, even if they are fictional?
>>291294782those are all powered by magic. As as each scientist in the universe figures out magic is real they start incorporating it into their tech
>>291294814Sci-fi asks "What if...?" with imagined scientific advancements/differences to real world. Fantasy is magic, myths, hierarchy and tradition with imagination's twists. Star Wars has The Force, spiritual magical powers and Jedi knighthood making it fantasy with sci-fi elements with space setting and technology
>>291294825Then its not magic but physics.
Just caught up.It's ever explained how the elves thought Pattadol could manage a party with four canaries and a captain with a half eaten soul?
>>291294937She's over 100 years old.
>>291294937"Good luck, bitch" I think was the central emotion. Canaries might be spec ops but they aren't the best of the best.
>>291294937If they don't behave they will get the nose
>>291294937Canaries are suicide squads and the criminals are pardoned death/life sentences for their crimes for accepting to become disposable units. The guard canaries are drafted from from noble families as payment for their family's status and show of loyalty.Pattadol is the middle child of 3 kids' family and she questions whether her parents chose to send her because they didnt value her or because they thought she was the most capable thus not to sully the family's reputation.
>>291294937her parents didn't love her
>>291285975Pattadol's fairy is a hoot.
>>291294594Batman is detective fiction.
>>291287961desire and fulfillment
>>291286695uber chad
>>291293985I love this picture.
>>291285036but is it the black goat, or the white goat?
>>291295001Canaries aren't suicide squad, more like a penal battalion. It's staffed with convicts, but you need loyal officers in the command.
>>291290560Actually not. The irl myth says it has crab-like flesh.
>>291293375With spoilers it's better to err on the side of caution.
>>291294594The confusion comes from the often neglected separation of story from setting. Star Wars is a fantasy story (knight saves princess and defeats an evil wizard) in a scifi setting (outer space, aliens, advanced technology). Dungeon Meshi is a fantasy story (saving his sister from a dragon and defeating an evil wizard) and has a fantasy setting (adventuring parties entering dungeons for riches and glory). These are not the same.
The Canaries. You know what they say it's supposed to stand for? Convict Army-Nearly All Retarded Inbred Evil Sheepshaggers.
>>291294957>Officially 82.>Elves are considered adults at 80Poor girl>I thought my first job was going to be fantasy McDonads but I'm leading a bunch of criminals to chase demons in a dungeon
>>291285698>Elves need their stories to be needlessly complicated with a million side charactersEven taking his desires did not take the Elf out of him.
>>291295284Mmm, yeah, i thought it was clear that canaries have both guards and criminals.
>>291295215Batman's gadgets and lot of villains origins are sci-fi, like Jack Nicholson's Joker dropping into chemical vat, Scwarzenegger's Mr Freeze, Uma Thruman's Poison Ivy and so on
>>291287988It's hipothetical. Misiril states that the goat didn't manage to get strong enough to break free so it just flew away, and we know breaking free is an instant game over to the world.The goat is just the Lion, all the demons are the same being.
>>291284864>Erosantiship autist anon in shambles
>>291284884>>291285033>>291287459>>291287459I hope Helki is proving a good servant-companion support to her anonsI wish she managed to get over her trauma a bit and fuck him and have children
>>291291720>She saved Mithrun, but she knows it wasn't a mercy or a favor, just another doll to weaponize.No, she didn't save him to use him. You can see she is sad/moved when she sees his state, she truely thinks he's just a corpse in making nothing can be done for like Sissel eventually.She didn't want to kill him she just thought it's the only thing that can really be done for him.
>>291284884>Fungil's leaf collarI think that may be the only instance of Kui using the usual leaf motiff for elves, probably decided against it later. If I had a reservation it's that her elves have an almost uniform clothing - the canary uniforms and the simple "greek-like" tunics.But I guess coming up with some extensive systems of different styles and aesthetics would be time consuming rabbit-holeStandalone elf series about Hareus (female) when
>>291287481perhaps the "golden voice" refers to ability to charm/mind control people and the tattoo they both have is intended to augment euch magic.Same magic, same tattoo
>>291284927>he could have gotten a free spell form this>rejects it like some rich kidWHY
>>291284968https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTomMm61Ixw
>>291287459>>291291720Competency doesn't necessarily equate to maturity.Milsiril can be an incredibly skilled swordfighter/dungeoneer and be an emotionally stunted womanchild at the same time.
>>291296224To be fair, the concept of a Greco-Roman tunic is so simple that it's not hard to imagine it convergently evolving, so to speak.And it brings to mind antiquity, which makes sense given the long lives of elves and how much more slowly their culture likely evolves.
>>291296319He could look it up at any time in a book. It's just a technique in this world, not a special ritual.And we've seen what happens when a beginner casts magic.
>>291296735*Not a special miracle
>>291287926Yeah for some reason I think the editor might be the hidden GOAT of meshi. I've read some of her other series and I think it's so so (her meshi extras are the best tho). And even the start of Meshi didn't really form well immediately and even the ending. Don't (you) me. Maybe after sometime Kui is able to internalize her editor's advices, and even summarize it here. You can really feel how her editor (Kabru) criticized her (Mithrun) heavily.
>>291284927This could never make com--
>>291285301cool how the snek tail is not immediately revealed. She probably didn't have it initially.
>>291292492it really just looks like monster hunter armor
>>291296556kek
>>291285353shitty goat, a SHEEP would never
>>291285301Note: none of his friends look happy
>>291296946
>>291285406scary how he shows up in the room with the mirror, all the dungeon illusions/conjurations gone (though he is not in his old clothes)
>>291285656>the plush supports Mithrun
>>291285698>lesser races just take the results of ages-long cultural building and struggle and bastardize then crudely
>>291294008Yeah I became confused too. And what I can come up is that the more the demon eat desires, the more his ego is formed. The more "mature" it is, the more will it can manifest in the world
>>291285756>Kabru had it all served and explained and still he didn't make up his mind to just warn the party when he had the chanceI guess it was a necessity for the story to continue, of course. I would stop him from talking differently I guess
>>291275621This is the first time I’ve seen anyone bring up Deadman Wonderland ever lol>>291279053I liked the homunculi concept more but I didn’t like the way it went (the villain was forgettable desu) especially the shitty movie. I still think the manga is far better way to enjoy FMA than either anime.>>291280674I kept putting it off because I wasn’t sure of the eating monsters gimmick and the fandom on twatter festering with retards put me off but I’m glad I gave it a chance in the end. I went and bought the adventure bible soon after I finished reading for the first time.
>>291294008He does. He wants to break out so that it can eat everyone's desires and that would end the world for living beings
>>291285381Oh god
>>291285858second panel, Kabroo's face is super girly
>>291287354Is it? He led with the fact that Laios came into the dungeon this time to save his sister, but Kabru WAS right in that Laios is crazy into monsters. That literally ends up being one of the main reasons he falls to the temptation of the demon in the end, in order to become a monster himself.
>>291286034I chuckled a bit
>>291285933Poor Flekü, having to hold that in her mounth for a week
>>291285988kek, nice
>>291285975>>291287326>>291288030>>291288221>>291290660>>291294044>>291294365>>291295206Total Pattadol impregnation sex
>>291291720kabru is ass because she taught him sword techniques but he never bothered to pick up a monster guide. everyone makes her out to be some evil mastermind but she's just a 40 year old autist. justice for mommy.
>>291286069>the faces in the frame>unkempt hair nose elfelf chapters are the best
>>291295206
>>291297576She should basically be a walking monster guide though, she had been a member of the canaries for ages (and respected enough to still be remembered well by others even more than a decade after she quit), so she must've had a fair amount of combat experience against monsters.It seemed like Kabru's inability to fight monsters well stems more from his personal disgust towards them, to the point where he even admits he doesn't like to just LOOK at them.
>>291287474>What if instead of killing the guy, say we just talk to him instead.safer to kill him, capture corpse, revive him once it's safe, bring him out of dungeon.Seems the elves do that because surprisingly they have a collection of ex-dungeon lords that all have various crippling issues and require care
>>291297745We've seen dungeon lords in the extras, they come from a variety of races
>>291294937They are short on staff due to the high mortality, is all. They had nobody better.
>>291297516Patty after I BROKE up with her
>>291298050Also good to keep in mind that Mithrun and Patty's group were only sent in originally as a sort of initial scouting mission, and the canaries had absolutely NO idea how bad the dungeon had gotten already. Going by the number of newbies Flamela brings in as 'backup' it almost looks as though this was set up to be some kind of training mission to get the new recruits used to things, even if it would probably start off as clearing up the dregs of a dungeon after its DM was defeated.
>>291293144Maybe we'll get a couple of pages as a "what if" blu-ray extra.
>>291286046I really like these panels, makes you remember that people don't really know how he is on the inside, he gives this aura of a cold cool guy you don't want to mess with.
>>291292853Mogged
>>291295705How does a demon just fly away without escaping the dungeon? Why would it just vanish after acquiring a good sized chunk of power even if it wasn't enough to escape, instead of waiting for another prey?I think that to seal that dungeon the Canaries had to actively fight the demon before finding Mithrun.
>>291298413> How does a demon just fly away without escaping the dungeon?nta but I don't think it literally flew away, it 'disappeared' presumably back into the alternate energy dimension (as it originally got into this world because of rifts and artificially made dimensional gates) because it didn't have enough power to overflow the dungeon + because the canaries had already set the seal, or were actively setting it up already, which would effectively destroy the dungeon anyway by cutting off the supply of adventurers/desires.
SOON
You could do whatever you wanted to Mithrun and he would not have the desire to stop you
>>291298799>You could do whatever you wanted to Mithrun and he would not have the desire to stop youWhat did anon mean by this?
Pornposters get the rope.
Pornposters get all their desires fulfilled by the demon with no consequences.
>>291299461 I don’t want to get my dick chomped off [\spoiler]
cool too see the pre-anime thread schizo bothered by lewds being posted on 4chin is still around
>>291298413It enabled noclip obviously.
>>291298799not whatever, he'll stop you if it hampers his kill all demons quest
>>291298742I love these Vanta black elves. Make me honry
In a thread that's about to die even, who gives a fuck at this point.
