Volume 67An OpeningChapter 644: I Knowhttps://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>291253984
>>291299335He did that weird meme in the last panel.
>>291299447Sasuke says this but later on he will gladly take Naruto's chakra + the chakra of every other bijuu to have a chance against him.
>>291299492Oh hey, a minor Byakugan buff, Hinata can actually tell Naruto and Minato's chakra apart.Sure would've been nice if she did that with Tobi like 300 chapters ago...
>>291299377STOP WITH THESE FUCKING FLASHBACKS OH MY GOD, IT'S JUST PADDING
>>291299540>...is ditto gabby, chatterbox ma, right?!WHAT!?
B&W
>>291299346Cool page.
>>291299540What language is Naruto even speaking in that panel?
>>291299526>Tobirama's original specialty as a Water Style user is so pathetic now that he has to be retconned into the inventor of Flying Raijin, Edo Tensei, AND Shadow Clones to be remotely relevant>and even, other characters are better at all of them
>>291299401We really needed 4 closeup panels of Minato's face.
>>291299635Those aren't really retcons, except for maybe Flying Thunder God. Someone had to be the inventor of Edo Tensei and Shadow Clones after all. You could call it "plot convenience" if you want.
>>291299681We really needed this entire chapter of Naruto and Minato moving people.
>>291299685I always thought Orochimaru invented Edo Tensei himself.
>>291299508kek Sasuke's face in the middle panel. Wondering how he's going to beat Naruto's BS.>>291299540Anybody got the raws to translate that zoomerspeak? Even Google Translate might give something better.
>>291299458>He's got almost as much chakra as I!Holy fucking shit why is Hashirama so absolutely God tier? Naruto on his own already has a shitload of Chakra, and now this is the work of Naruto's base chakra + the entirety of the 9 tails and Minato. Hashirama is a god damn genetic freak.
>>291299721Naw, remember that when summoned, the Second Hokage actually recognizes the jutsu. Even if Kishi didn't plan for him to be the inventor all the way back then, it shows that the jutsu still existed before Orochimaru's time. And the way Hiruzen reacts to Orochimaru completing the soul transfer, saying he "mastered it" also implies he did the same with Edo Tensei. Mastering it but not creating it.
>>291299685>>291299721I really wish Orochimaru was the actual inventor of Edo Tensei. It would've fit his character, and it would've made sense for him to create a jutsu of his own (though I guess he did invent Living Corpse Reincarnation).
>>291299777>the second Hokage created the jutsu >lived in a time of nonstop war>never used it to just end all wars forever The Edo Tensei is too gamebreakingly broken to not be used nonstop. It should have allowed Konoha to take over the world. Forget the Biju, the Edo Tensei is way more powerful than all of them put together. The fact that it was sealed away and not abused because "It's mean!" but throwing pre schoolers into the meat grinder is acceptable is just poor writing. Kishi wanted to bring back the GODS of the old age because he realized everyone alive not named Sasuke or Naruto is worthless.
DONE
>>291299540>>291299565>>291299866>>291299876Arigatou, OP!
>>291299578>>291299609>>291299748I haven't read the chapter yet so idk the context exactly but I'm guessing it's>You want to say the same thing that my very talkative chakra ghost mother told me when I encountered her during my attempt to control the nine tails' chakra - that you love me and you're proud of me etc..
>>291299867Yeah, sure, but we know that it actually does have flaws too and wasn't as strong as when Kabuto used it. Imagine another village figuring out how to use it? And all it takes is one mistake or screwup or something like Itachi or Madara happening to create a huge problem. Also, Hashirama was probably on Tobirama's ass for creating such a messed up jutsu in the first place.
>>291299948>Naruto's mom is dead before he's born >Naruto's dad is dead before he's born>gets to meet both of them>gets to talk to both of them>gets to fight alongside MinatoThe Edo Tensei absolutely ruins the manga. Life and death don't mean anything when characters can just be brought back on a whim because Kishi feels like it.
>>291299346Rare instance of the color page surpassing the original Black and White page>>291299401>I'm sure it's been a long hard road for you until nowActually Nardo had it pretty easy compared to what the average ninja has to go through. The worst he had to endure is some bullying as a kid but that didn't even prevent him from having friends like Shikamaru (totally not a retcon by the way). Even the Ramen shop guy was friendly towards him.
>>291299346What do yin and yang have to do with the fox?
>>291299458Is now really a good time to wank yourself, Hashirama?
>>291299526Funny. I like Tobirama's interactions with this moron
>>291299957>It actually does have flawsOther than summoning guys like Madara and Hashirama who can just circumvent it, what's the flaw?>hashirama was on tobirama's ass about itKishi was very unclear about the timeline, since we don't know when Hashirama died, but Hashirama wasn't around forever. Especially since before Naruto was born they were throwing children to their deaths routinely, the fact that Hiruzen, especially with Danzo in the background, never considered using enemy POWs or criminals to summon immortal Gods is stupid.
Why do our dead threads keep archiving daily sisters??
>>291299578>>291299609>>291299748It's a clunky callback to Minato saying>My words to you as your father... is same as your talkative mother...
>>291300028Hagoromo used Yin-Yang release to create the Tailed Beasts, so Minato just split it to give Naruto the Yang and himself the Yin
>>291300132Tobirama just used it to interrogate people or strap paper bombs to them and use them as regenerating suicide bombers. His Edos were probably weak as fuck
>>291300132You can headcanon it and say that Tobirama's version of Edo was weaker than even Orochimaru's from part 1. Like maybe the edos' souls couldn't permanently stay attached to the host's body.
>>291300276I don't think the version was weak, I think that Hashirama and Tobirama were retconned to be way more powerful than they were back then.
>>291299359>it's red>red means strong
>>291299359>As far as I can tell, the barrier looks redHoly FUARK, ShikaGOD is a GENIUS! I KNEEL.
>>291299635I mean, even after this chapter, he still did more against Jubito than the other 3 hokage.
>>291299359>as far as I can tell...it's red!I hate when stupid people write smart people.
>>291299401>yeah...sorry
>>291299508>THAT JUTSU?! I CAN'T COMPETE !!
Kishimoto really is treating Shikamaru's "intelligence" as some sort of superpower, huh.
>>291299447THE GREAT SNAKE ESCAPE: PART 2
>>291299526those bottom panels were pretty funny
>>291300760You're just jealous you can't identify the colour red like Shikamaru the God of Intellect can.
>>291299508Naruto is just LEAGUES ahead of Sasuke now, I wonder what nasty asspull they'll do to make them "equals" again.
>>291300905It's genuinely so funny how that chapter from 1-2 weeks ago had Naruto go "woah that's a new kind of sharingan..." as if Sasuke was anywhere near his level. Can this version of Sasuke even beat Bee on his own?
>>291299508What is this expression trying to convey
>>291299447A few minutes after Sasuke's declaration that he would become the new hokage, his greatest plan to survive this bullshit was to teleport himself out of this mess and leave everyone else to die lmao
>>291301029Danzo would be proud.
>>291299359This is what I hate the most about the character of Shikamaru.He's glazed to hell and back in and out of universe, but when it comes to actually giving him something to do, Kishimoto never delivers.And yet, Shikamaru is always remembered for his strategic prowess.Am I the one strange for not seeing it?
>>291301029Kek, that is funny
>>291301016He is turning heel
>>291299681This is the norm for Boruto
>>291299377>Have you already met him?Well, duh!?
>>291299427Hey, remember when Shikamaru assured the fodders that their OWN POWER can still make a difference?Well, that was a fucking lie.
>>291299534>>291299540Everyone would have shown this dialogue in real time at the start of the chapterBut Kishimoto loves to fuck the system and instead puts it at the end in the form of a flashback
>>291299458Gotta remind us that Hashirama is still the top dog
>>291299359Himuchiha Ryobito? He's on par with the hokages!
>>291300992>Can this version of Sasuke even beat Bee on his own?As we see in the future, you can fend off Amaterasu with a Tailed Beast cloak so that's one of Sasuke's big moves down. After that it all depends on if Bee can break through Susano-o
>>291299330>>291295711
Why didn't Obito just team up with Orochimaru and asked him to revive Rin through edo?
>>291301163>you would make a great hokage>about to get canned
Thank you daily ramen
>>291301866NOT tumbleweeds!
>>291302012>95 replies itt>160+ replies in movie thread>Tumbleweeds
gaara usually uses ore when referring to himself but he uses kono ore right after he starts his shukaku transformation and talks to sasuke.kono ore puts emphasis on oneself in a way that's like picking oneself out specifically from others, so it's like he's saying "are you afraid of me as i am now!?" or "are you afraid of me specifically compared to anyone else!?" using kono before a pronoun may also give the feeling the speaker thinks highly of themself.for instance, sasuke has used kono ore for a confrontation with naruto. it's like sasuke saw himself as above naruto because sasuke was an uchiha and naruto was just a loser. or usuratonkachi, i should say.but gaara does go back to just using ore while in his shukaku state. the emphasis he puts on himself goes away.i take it as him seeing his monster self as no different from his regular form. though this small nuance between using kono ore for a few lines and then just going back to ore might not mean anything special.but the gaara vs. naruto fight does seem like it puts emphasis on naruto not falling back on being the monster everyone saw him as while gaara was giving into it and being no different. naruto never transforms into the kyuubi here and only uses kurama's chakra to his own advantage, while gaara completely surrenders himself to shukaku's control eventually.so i think my theory fits. but it is only a theory.
Did obito forgot he has the sharingan and rinegan during this whole fight or why is he not using any of them??? Even Madara was usuing both eyes
>>291301905Because according to Obito, the Rin that died was a fake. His Rin would never be killed in the first place. A world that allowed Rin to die is fake.
>>291300276Tobirama might not have experimented with Edo Tensei as much as Oro and Kabuto, so that could be a viable reason why his Edos are weakerHe also didn't have Hashirama cells
>>291301866>>291301926>>291302012>>291302035You're legitimately the most pathetic person in these threads
>>291299458based hashi, fraudruto needs to be exposed
>>291302396what nonsense.
>>291302499
>>291300276Isn't something like this explicitly shown when Orochimaru was picking a fight with Sasori using an edo tensei of the 3rd kazekage?
>>291299458What a strange mutant Hashirama is.
>>291302815Was it every implied he had Rasa's edo readily available in case Sasori came for him?
>>291302815Filler
>>291301905>>291302396>>291302499>>291302526None of this would've happened if only Obito had read Descartes.
>>291299346I don't even remember this page when reading the black and white manga. Cool.
>>291300211Why does Minato still have his half of the chakra? Shouldn't it have escaped after he died?
>>291299479>didn't even destroy the ground
>>291299635Did he ever even use water style in the war arc?
>>291303202It was sealed with him.
comfy
>>291299526Tobirama and Madara are just carrying the series at this point.
>>291299335why is minatos chakra digital?
>>291300471>>291300648It's incredible that these translations exist.He's just saying that based on the color, it's at least as strong as the Hokage's barrier.That doesn't really make it any more impressive, but still, good god.
>>291303751Overuse of teleportation techniques causing fragmentation
why can't the earth users just tunnel under ground
>>291299529Do what, tell him that His chakra is not the same as Tobi's?
>>291299540what gibberish is this
>>291303751Because orochimaru downloaded him
>>291303902Tell everyone Tobi's sharingan has the same chakra as Kakashi's sharingan.
>>291303963Was Kakashi even there?
>>291303130he's pure Nietzschean. Madara is too.
>>291304004yes. regardless, she should be intimately familiar with his chakra signature anyway. if nothing else she should've known Tobi had a sharingan (not known to the konoha ninja at the time) and that he was activating it every time he became intangible.
bumpycomfy
>>291299377>Naruto! What's the plan?>Just... Let me hold this fist bump... For a few more panels
>>291304551Such an active thread, it constantly needs saved from tumbleweeds lmao
Hiashi won.
>>291299508>>291299526>>291304643>fish bump was relevant KISHIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>291300760Dumb people think smart people are indistinguishable from magicians.
>>291300992>the sharingan got so ridiculously overpowered for the sole purpose of having Sasuke keep up with Naruto
>>291299764The wanking of Madara and Hashirama is the worst part of Naruto to this day
>>291304958It really can't be overstated how ludicrously powerful they were. The two of them combined could probably take over the entire Shinobi world with little to no resistence. Fuck, one of them on their own could do it with ease. We just saw Madara no-diff the 5 kage off screen. And Hashirama was stronger than Madara WITH Kurama under his control. Hashirama got so ludicrously upscaled.
>>291304916Batman has had dozens of different writers yet he's never had the "smart character written by dumb writer" problem
>>291304958Idk, Itachi's wank is still far more egregious if you ask me. (the Shikamaru wank is really annoying, too, though it doesn't reach the levels of the Uchihas)
>>291300760Being high IQ is exactly like having a superpower. You wouldn't know. Not all of us can think like Hokages.
>>291299540who the fuck is Gabby?
>>291299866who the fuck is ditto gabby>>291299876thanks op.
>>291305255Kishi obviously has his favorites. You can tell when characters like Hiruzen get literally nothing even though everyone said he was the strongest in part 1, discarded all in favor of Uchiha wank.
>>291305694>Kishi obviously has his favorites.I know. I can at least somewhat buy into Hashirama and Madara being far stronger than everyone else because they're legendary warriors from a bygone era (80 years ago). Itachi constantly being an unstoppable force of nature because he's a prodigy feels a lot more retarded because there are other geniuses like Neji or Orochimaru who aren't even close to him.
>>291304939when all Kishi had to do was keep the curse mark around. it's supposed to be a bootleg version of senjutsu.
>>291305694The issue is less that he has favorites and more what he does with them.
>>291305874reminder Orochimaru's sole stated reason for pursuing the sharingan was for its jutsu-copying abilities. he wasted years trying to get a good Uchiha body, when all he needed was to spam shadow clones like Naruto does.
>>291305110It's a wonder Hashirama didn't just brute forced his way into peace. Why even have 5 kage when he could solo everyone. Just take over the world at that point.
>>291306231It's funny how the copying aspect becomes irrelevant in front of all the bullshit the Sharingan would do.
>>291305381Gabirama, the last of the Senju... show some respect.
>>291306231He'd need a good chakra source. Shame Nine-Tails wasn't available.
>>291299359Shikamaru used his 200 IQ to determine that the barrier was red.A lesser mind may have concluded that it was scarlet, crimson, or possibly even maroon.But not the intellectual titan Shikamaru. He KNOWS red when he sees it.
>>291306888he had enough chakra to fight 4 tails Naruto to a stalemate.
>>291299540>ditto gabby, chatterbox maDid Naruto have a stroke?
ENTER
>>291307276should I stick around for the bort funnycomfy? never read or watched it before.
>>291299540>You are as bad as my mom!Translation in spanish where Naruto isn't speaking in code.
>>291307357>Translation in spanishSakon...
>>291305953Sage mode being so haphazardly introduced and discarded is such a fumble.
>>291299508>What did you do?>I... wait, who the fuck are you? Why have you just been standing around this entire time?
Hello naruto friends and enemies, this is a warning. In October the amount of shitposting will be reduced and the reason is that I will be participating in horror marathon.I will still shitpost with you on October 10 , the premiere of Naruto movie.I will return on November, 1th.
>>291299540What did he say in Japanese?
funnycomfy
>>291307832roughly>what you wanna say is probably the same thing my naggy mom would say! i already know!
>>291304958The competitive rivalry between Madara and Hashirama fighting life or death battles for years served to up their strength and chakra capacity but Naruto and Sasuke only did competitive tree climbing one week and they're still super strong
>>291299540Ditto? the pokemon?
>>291299540Ditto means "me too" or "I agree".Gabby and chatterbox are both ways to say someone talks a lot.Ma means mom, obviously.The part that confuses me is the placement of the comma.
>>291308990unnecessary oxford comma. it should be "what you want to say is ditto chatterbox gabby ma, right?". as in, 'ma is a gabby chatterbox'. Kushina calls herself a gabby chatterbox when she's giving her dying words to infant Naruto, in a conversation only Minato was privy to. it was Naruto telling him he had also spoken with her spirit, and she had told him about that conversation.
>>291309067can you translate it to english
>>291309381it is English, as spoken by native English speakers. slang always confuses ESLs.
>>291308990>>291309067>>291309449You're trying way too hard
>>291306962kek
>>291299469>A big testicle
if you believe it,you can be somebody,you can be somebody,if you believe it,if you believe it,you can be somebody,you can be somebody,if you believe it,BELIEEEEEEEEVE IT,BELIEEEEEEEEVE IT,NARUTO,NARUTO,NARUTO,NARUTO,BELIEEEEEEEEVE IT,BELIEEEEEE E E EVE IT T T,yeah i have a ninja clan,ninja clan,yeah we stand,naruuto i'm on my way,naruuto i'll be okay,getting ready to fight on sight,come, my best friends by my side,suh-soo-kay is really cool,sakura the beautiful,the great jenin,the great jenin,the ninja fightasare comin' in,if you believe it,you can be somebody,you can be somebody,if you believe it,if you believe it,you can be somebody,you can be somebody,if you believe it,in the village hidden in the leaves,to become hokage you better believe,naruuto the chosen one,naruuto comin' up strong,ninjas waitin' for the duel,to win or die the world's so cruel,don't stop you movin' on,don't stop you got to run,the great chuunin,the great chuunin,the ninja fightas,are comin' in,kowakaru na naruto chikyu o mamore,kowakaru na naruto chikyu o mamore,BELIEEEEEEEEVE IT,BELIEEEEEEEEVE IT,NARUTO,NARUTO,NARUTO,NARUTO,BELIEEEEEEEEVE IT,BELIEEEEEE E E EVE IT T T,
What are your thoughts on the character of Tenten so far?
>>291310525All the characters suck
>>291310560dosu is cool.
>>291310525Give me one long weekend and I'd turn her straight.
>>291310525Manga: Nothing, her fight against Temari is the only fight she gets and it's completely skipped overAnime and Rock Lee spinoff: Best girl
>>291310753She's not any better than the anime
>>291310525overrated "potential" character
>>291310525Might honestly have had less cumulative screentime/panels than Rin, who was dead well over a decade before the events of the manga took place.
>>291311018she could have married neji, but alas...
>>291310879By Kishimoto's own admission, she's a filler character that only exists to fill a team slot. Which makes her a complete blank slate that you can do whatever you want with without contradicting canon, as there's nothing to contradict.
>>291299764>why is Hashirama so absolutely God tier?His entire body is 100% composed of Hashirama Cellsâ„¢. He's almost as much of a God as Itachi-sama.
>>291301016>You did this with everyone before me?
So there won't be new movie? Someone said Viz might have assumed it would be a movie just because it's being animated by Pierrot Films. It's hard to believe because of how stupid that sounds. But knowing Viz, that might be exactly what happened.
>>291310525Total waste of Yukarin
>>291310525>Kishi's Tentenstraw feminist jobber who existed for three chapters and then disappeared into the background>anime filler Tentenstraight man in a gang of clowns, at the end of her rope, just trying to hold it together, pulls through when the chips are down, nice voice
>>291311067Boruto anime storyboards say that she married Lee, had Metal, and then they divorced
>>291311954wait, it's true!
>>291312289who are they trying to say is connected to Shino?
>>291312289>zero connection between Boruto and SaradaBoruSara sisters...
>>291312289>only Naruto has two kids
>>291312289what does the current boruto version of this look like? manga seems off the rails from what ive seen
>>291312616Here
>>291310525Despite reading the entire manga almost twice now, I probably wouldn't even know her name if fans didn't constantly whine about the mangaka "forgetting" her. I think it is pretty clear he never had any plans for her in the first place, she is slightly above a background character that got to fill a chair.
>>291310525>no jutsu except using scrolls to throw weaponsHow was this bitch not dropped out??
>>291312093>>291228251You need to bump your thread BCsister
>>291312093>not even 200 tumbleweedswell duh, because there are no tumbleweeds ITT because it's not a tumbleweed thread
>>291307357Could've just used the english mangastream for that.Locally it was>You'd say the same things as my nagging mom anyways!which sounds like something Kishimoto would write.
>>291311954Kishimoto said Lee's kid is not Tenten's.
>>291314691That was the reason of the divorce.
>>291310525Anal queen
>>291309449Ditto faggy, cocksucker anon.
>>291314903Can you try to say that again but in non broken English
>>291314915ESL...
>>291314995Why are you signing your post?
>>291315143It's definitely the worst on the board, but it's a far cry from being the worst for the website.
>>291315143There's no need to be so upset. If you don't like the thread you can just hide it and move on.
>>291300471>>291300648>>291306962Did you all sassy bitches forgot this manga was originally in Black and White? This character is making an observation for the reader's sake.
>>291315231>There's no need to be so upsetSakon is always seething anon. There's no helping him at this point.
>>291315253The text makes it sound more like it's part of Shikamaru devising a genius plan.
comf
>>291315558How so?
>>291315931It's part of Shikamaru's inner dialogue while he's trying to strategize. If the dialogue was earlier when Obito just set the barrier, and it was him or some randie going "the barrier is red, just like the one made by the hokage!", then it'd feel more natural as exposition.
>page 9 tumbleweeds Lol
>>291316956There's no need to be so upset
>>291310525I like that her reaction to Nejis death is to be worried that Rock Lee is sad. And later complains that the serious one is gone.
>>291299346I usually prefer black and white, but having naruto and minato be the one bit of color in the first panel looks really cool.
>>291307818>1thfirth?
>>291310525cute and my wife
Chapter 645: Two Powers
>2 chapters in a threadTumbleweeds won
>>291318729Kishi really ruined Minato
>>291308295>Naruto insults his mother in japaneseCHUDmoto...
>>291318902That's gay.
>>291305165Batman had a different problem where he's usually written to be omniscient to deal with anything.Shikamaru is not smart enough for the wank.But Bruce is wanked because he's egregiously smart.
>>291318799I've never seen him this smug before
>>291318744>>291318760Jugo is here too btw. But wait, only senjutsu works on Obito and Jugo's curse mark is a type of sage energy right?If I were reading for the first time I'd assume Jugo is going to contribute to Sasuke relating to the curse mark in some way, but I'm pretty sure he ends up just standing around doing nothing while just being out of place
>>291318902>sasuke STILL seething over how upscaled Naruto's gottenThe fact that they fight to a stalemate later on is pure bullshit. Kishi could have drawn a parallel, like he loves doing so much, with Naruto winning and Sasuke just accepting it and moving on to work towards a better world, the thing Madara DIDN'T do.
Done!
>>291318902INSECUREsuke is back after not caring about Naruto for over 400 chapters.
>>291318936>>291318956>>291319191>>291319207Arigatou, OP!
>>291310753never forget
>>291318837Ninjas?
>>291310525She didn't go to KEKji's funeral.
>>291318902
>>291319208>Naruto beats pain >zetsus tells Sasuke/Tobi>Sasuke doesn't give a fuck>Now he suddenly cares that Naruto is so strongIn all honesty why does Sasuke care about being strong anymore? He only cared about getting as strong as necessary to beat Itachi, then crushing Konoha. Now he wants to be Hokage apparently, but the Kage isn't the strongest Shinobi in the village. If that were the case then Tsunade would be like 6th in line.
>>291319480Late stage war is all about callbacks.
>>291318819It's nice to see this finally happen after almost 200 chapters of waiting for it. >>291318936It's also kind of cool to see Madara actually worried for once.
>>291319075>If I were reading for the first time I'd assume Jugo is going to contribute to Sasuke relating to the curse mark in some way, but I'm pretty sure he ends up just standing around doing nothing while just being out of placeyou're wrong, he does contribute by being a curse mark battery pack add-on or something
>>291318744>my SHONEN rival is this strong...? this might be an issue...
>>291318777Kishimoto, foreshadowing GOD
>>291318854Teleportation sure is convenient in this fight huh
>>291319178Sasuke is way behind at this point. Even EMS with perfect Susano'o shouldn't be a match for Naruto now. Luckily for Sasuke, his Rinnegan will be an enormous upgrade.
>>291318902>my SHONEN rival is being so STRONG while I can only sit here and do NOTHING...
>>291319480Sasuke wants to kill Naruto in order to cut all bonds and be the Edgelord Hokage. If he's much weaker than Naruto, it will be hard to do, outside of some cowardly backstab that Sasuke's pride wouldn't want to rely on.
>>291319804Where was that pride of his when he sold his body and soul to Orochimaru for power?
>>291319992He was arrogant enough to think that he could just get power from Orochimaru with nothing in return.
>>291319606My bad, it's been a while. It's good that Jugo does something though. Would be cool if Sasuke got his full curse mark form back if even temporarily. Way more unique than his Susanoo JoJo stand
>>291319207Thanks, comfy OP!
>>291320034Yeah, but that still an underhanded way to get power.
>>291319804>sharingan merchant cares about fighting fairKishi had to make up a chakra skeleton Gundam, several flavors of genjutsu, and inextinguishable black flames (that can be extinguished actually) to get the sharingan to be viable in the endgame.
>>291318902Same as it ever was
>no filler episode when 4th war is seen through POV of a random fodderOne Piece Fan letter pulls it off. Why cant Naruto do the same?
>>291320240he even says the same thing
The war is won because the former hokage were brought backThe former hokage were brought back thanks to OrochimaruOrochimaru was brought back thanks to SuigetsuSuigetsu saved the world
>>291320584Suigetsu was released from his water tank by SasukeSasuke only survived thanks to Itachi holding back in their fight and refusing to kill him during the coupDanzo is the one who accepted the deal of only Sasuke being spared during the coupDanzo saved the world
>>291318885>I'll just make this magic energy ball stronger by adding more magic power to it>WOW NARUTO YOU MIGHT BECOME AN EVEN BETTER HOKAGE THAN MY BROTHER WHO FOUNDED THE VILLAGE!!!
Naruto would be nothing without 9 tails9 tails was sealed inside him because of ObitoObito saved the world
tumb...le...weeeeeeedzz.
>>291318777Kurama got triggered by Nagato? For saying what exactly? All he said to Naruto was to surrender for peace and I guess that he could control Narutos body now?
>>291299447>I'll take you and Naruto with mesurprisingly thoughtful. Didn't Sasuke leave Jugo to die during the kage summit?
>>291318729I'd cry too if I heard my son say>DITTO GABBY CHATTERBOX MA
>>291318777Wasn't Kurama's chakra supposed to be heavily suppressed at this point since Minato just redid the seal? And yet he could freely give Naruto more chakra just cause Nagato triggered him?
>>291318799Perfect reaction image for when a certain someone can't stop talking about his not-so-secret crush
>>291318777Naruto still feeling hatred towards Nagato was a perfectly human reaction.NAH THAT WAS KURAMA THE WHOLE TIME
>>291318799I hate his face so fucking much in this page
>>291320921Maybe it was just the general plan of turning Kurama into a weapon like Madara and Obito did to him in the past. The invaluable jinchuriki part would kind of fit that?
>>291318744>Naruto, letting loose a vigorous shout and showing off is all well and good, but don't tell me you've already forgotten that nothing other than senjutsu works against him? I know you're not an idiot...Oh my god, I've never read a premise to a comedy sketch so long and complicated.
>>291318760This scene made it in the 16th openinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVgKnfN9i34
>>291321371God this opening is so overrated
>>291318760>>291318777>>291318799Isn't this a bad time to remind that NEJI AND OTHER PEOPLE JUST DIED, WHY IS THIS MORON STILL ACTING LIKE A MORON
>>291320921It's probably Naruto who got triggered and the VIZ translation fucked up.
>>291318760>Naruto, you might be dumber than my brother>>291318885>Naruto, you might be greater than my brother
>>291318729>This feeling is familiar, I feel like I'm with Kushina again>>291318760>Okay, maybe it's not the same feeling>>291318902>No no I take it back, it is a familiar feeling after allSPLENDID WRITING
>>291318936>Bulge Bulge
>>291321371this opening is so good
>>291318744Raise a vigorous shout you mighty champion!
what did anons here actually think of their dynamic?
>>291318799Sure is nice of Obito to do fuck all while this is happening
>>291320240>this is what the rasengan does to a steel water tank>99/100 times it hits a human being it just stuns them
>>291322953It didn't even kill the ninja of dark, did it?
>>291322988It killed some guy, some no-name Suna guy. Naruto has canonically killed a man, and it was sorta just glossed over.
>>291318777Konan flashback!!
>>291322953>Rasenshuriken damages cells>Kakuzu doesn't even die from that and is killed by Kakashi>it's not ever relevant again because it becomes a simple big nuke. Not even as a consequence for Naruto because his very next fight he begins throwing it instead
>>291322723Two useless characters and one Jobber to the Stars. I completely forgot that they're all siblings. Were they adopted or something?
>>291323067For some reason there's this strange aversion to killing with Naruto, but killing for Kakashi is ok? Kakashi has killed an untold amount of people, but no one thinks "oh man, kakashi is clearly evil".
>>291318799>it's not like I like you or anything, Baaakadoesn't Naruto directly call him tsundere here in the raws?
>>291323113Nah, biological. Temari looks like their mom, Kankuro and Gaara look like their dad. Kankuro just wears that face paint most of the time.
>>291322723A bit annoying desu.This scene with them in the forest is really cool. I love the bit where Gaara points his hand towards where Hinata's team is hiding, but Kankuro is still terrified because he's not sure if Gaara actually plans on killing him, and no one in the actual scene really knows what this schizo is about to do. Other than that, however, most of their dynamic is just Temari and Kankuro watching Gaara fight and constantly going "OH GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE HE MANAGED TO HIT GAARA OH GOD GAARA IS ABOUT TO RELEASE 'THAT' OH MY GOD LOOK AT GAARA'S FACE THAT MEANS 'IT' IS GONNA COME OUT". And then in part 2 they just have a normal sibling relationship because Gaara became a generic good guy.
>>291318760>tens of thousands of people died>kages are down and out>Neji just died protecting Hinata and Naruto>Obito became the ten-tails jinchuuriki, gaining power beyind measure>he's about to achieve his objective, putting all of the world under an eternal sleepWHY THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL HAVING NARUTO ACT LIKE A BRAINLESS CLOWN, KISHIMOTO? WOULD IT HURT YOU TO TAKE THIS SUPPOSEDLY DIRE SITUATION SERIOUSLY??
>>291323681Without these moments of levity, the story would be too dark.
>>291321762I know most shonen mangaka already write on a chapter by chapter basis, but I really think Kishimoto writes on a page by page basis.When he starts a chapter, I don't think he even has a plan for how it will end.
>>291318870why isnt Minato using Sage Kyubi cloak
>>291323716It should be fucking dark, though? 40k+ people from the good guy's side died, and one of his supposed close friend killed himself to protect him and Hinata. What's the point in making this a war arc where people keep getting murdered left and right if you're gonna keep the atmosphere feel all hunky dory?
>>291319442*squeaky voice* noooo naruto please don't trap inside your foreskin aiieeeee im sorry ill come back to the village
>>291323716Only person of any importance to die was Neji.
>>291323716We are in the middle of a war where tens of thousands of people have been killed or maimed. They just shot a Biju bomb at an innocent village full of people, killing God knows how many children. By the way, these are the guys that want to end all wars and slowly guide humanity to a peaceful extinction.
>>291323716Un-fucking-likely.We're in the goddamn Care Bears season of the manga, with Kishimoto doing his damnest to file off all the edges that are still in his damn story. This is just his latest clownery.
>>291319480>Tsunade would be like 6th in lineNot really. Guy is the only one stronger before Pain.
>>291323939Kakashi is honestly stronger than Tsunade. You gotta remember Tsunade doing literally nothing at all during the entire Pain arc.
The funny thing about power scaling in this series is people always bitched specifically about eyehax but man does the bullshit eyes stuff really even things out and distract the viewer from all the other power feats going on
>>291321051The irony
Have we not gotten to the exposition dump Madara gives to Hashirama about Kaguya yet? I thought it was dumped earlier than this, jesus
>>291320954no, sasuke wanted to save juugo because he intended to use juugo curse mark. This will be explained in few chapters ahead
>>291324010>Kakashi is honestly stronger than TsunadeNah
>>291319480his goal is more or less in line with Obito, he wants to hard reboot the shinobi system because he sees it as fundamentally flawed for driving Itachi to do what he did. his idea of what the Hokage is is fundamentally different fvrom what it currently is, and he wants to change that. it's why after Kaguya is gone he declares he wants to kill the five kage himself.
>>291324110What has Tsunade done to make you think she's not a slightly buffed version of Sakura? Or I suppose Sakura is just a lesser version of her.
>>291324159Impaled a giant snake
>>291318744LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>291299447Sasuke chan is soo tsundere <33
>>291318819fuck yeah. this might be narutos best design.
>>291324396Naruto's best design was him in sage mode for the first time. Big ass cloak and scroll showing up with 3 giant frogs was sick as fuck. It's a shame beyond that the fight itself went downhill very fast.
>>291324010Part 1 Kakashi shat his pants over Orochimaru, Tsunade made him run like a bitch after taking care of Manda.
>>291318777GODIMOTO
>>291324438true
>>2913231132bh, the guys that Gaara lost against required asspulls to defeat>Deidaraasspull snake summon when Sasuke was out of chakra>MadaraBLACKED by Zetsu asspull
>>291318837>>291318854>>291318870Where did he even use the flying raijin? And with what mark? Did he just mark the entire battlefield?
>>291324476Orochimaru was fighting 2v1 against the other sannin, unable to use any jutsu because of his sealed arms. still manage to fight to a stalemate. Jiraiya at least had the excuse of Tsunade having drugged him so he wasn't fighting at 100%, but Tsunade not completely rolling his ass is a huge mark against her fighting ability.
>>291324476Part 1 kakashi was retconned to not have the Kamui.
>>291324554>beat kimimaro because he died of ninja aids .000001 seconds before stabbing him straight through the face
>>291324607>jiraiya was drugged>orochimaru couldn't even use his arms >NOW THE THREE OF US STAND AS EQUALS!
>>291318936>alreadyThey talked about preparing it like 20 chapters ago
>>291324607>Orochimaru was fighting 2v1 against the other sanninHe effectively too no damage from Jiraiya.>unable to use any jutsu because of his sealed arms.Nothing in his arsenal would make him take or dodge her punches better.
>>291324737*tookGod dammit.
>>291319480>>291323939>Guy>Naruto>Kakashi (debatably)>Sakura (debatably)>Jiraiya (formerly)Idk who else is stronger than Tsunade.
>>291324737>Edo Tensei Hashirama and MadaraTsunade loses, without question. Orochimaru was able to fight 4 tails Naruto to a standstill, something not even Jiraiya could do.
>>291324737>Nothing in his arsenal would make him take or dodge her punches better.He could vomit out a new body for himself in case Tsunade punches him too hard.
>>291324832Orochimaru didn't have the sacrifices ready at the moment to summon those two.
>>291324876He can literally do that without his arms.
>>291323543>And then in part 2 they just have a normal sibling relationship because Gaara became a generic good guy.and they did nothing with their dynamic. i get some people like gaara's development but he becomes such a boring and generic character for me that i just don't care.what would've been more interesting for you for their part 1 and part 2 relationships?i personally liked their early dynamic because it was a weird dysfunctional family that still had some type of care in it and i find it interesting.i agree on finding out a bit annoying how temari/kankuro just say generic "oh no, not that!" statements when observing gaara though.both temari and kankuro simultaneously feared gaara but still cared for him because:1. he was important strength wise and i get the feeling they liked being able to just let him take care of everything. when he schizos out after fighting sasuke, they say something like "we can't do this without gaara". but simultaneously, he was a double edged sword who they feared and who wouldn't always obey orders as they wished. it encapsulates his whole relationship with suna.2. he was their little brother so kankuro and temari still cared for him despite being a monster. they worried about him when he got hurt.and i get the feeling gaara had more going on with him than just simply hating kankuro and temari early on. he keeps threatening to kill them but never does and he knocks temari out of the way before he starts fighting sasuke the second time and transforming partially with shukaku.i think he either:1. couldn't kill them because he feared his father and knew he'd be mad about it.or:2. he didn't want to be all alone. he says people can't escape their own loneliness when talking to lee after the kimimaro fight and says the company of bad people is preferable to being all alone. this could also be a nod to him still missing yashamaru even after he tried to kill him too though.
>>291324877because he couldn't use ET at the time, because his arms were sealed. why would he prepare a jutsu he couldn't use? >uhm summoningall summoning needs is for someone to activate the seal, it doesn't need any other prep.
>>291324964So we're giving Oro prep time on top of his arms back?
>>291323543also, despite gaara agreeing not to kill anymore after the forest argument, there were more kills afterwards in the manga. it's unclear if gaara necessarily did kill them though because blood got in kankuro's puppet. and the anime just has kankuro kneeling for no reason because it removed these bodies for some reason.
>>291324829
>>291324995no more than he had when fighting Sarutobi. you're forgetting Kabuto already keeps a scroll filled with corpses he can summon at any time, and Edo Tensei doesn't take a decade to activate. He gave Tsunade three days to decide if she wanted to help him or not. you think he wouldn't stop and make plans for if she decided to not assist?
>>291325071You can't use an already dead corpse for edo tensei.
>>291325071Oro wasn't expecting Tsunade to betray him though.
>>291318936>Obito, no! I'm in the middle of making out with Hashirama, I already got what I wanted!
>>291324951>what would've been more interesting for you for their part 1 and part 2 relationships?Maybe keep some of Gaara's psychopathic tendencies even after he gets reformed, so that he still needs Temari and Kankuro to tardwrangle him from time to time. It'd be similar to how they were in Part 1, but now Gaara is more amicable and would never threaten to kill them.>>291324951>1. couldn't kill them because he feared his father and knew he'd be mad about it.>2. he didn't want to be all alone. he says people can't escape their own loneliness when talking to lee after the kimimaro fight and says the company of bad people is preferable to being all alone. this could also be a nod to him still missing yashamaru even after he tried to kill him too though.I like the first one more, since it feels more unique as a reason, and it makes sense with how Rasa's gold dust is a direct counter to Gaara's sand. Though I guess 2 is more fitting with the themes of the series. I guess a combination of the 2 could work? >>291325038I didn't know that Gaara's team was looking at a corpse during the cctv scene in the manga. What's the context for that?
>>291321469Was that the first time anime actually made it into the mainstream? And yes, anime youtubers were already a thing and popular, but this was a meme among normgroids who knew nothing about Naruto. It was when liking anime was still "ironic". I can't recall a similar moment before this.
>>291325294From what I remember it was mostly memed by Filthy Frank. I still don't get why people act like it's some masterpiece. Neither the song nor the animation from the intro are amazing, especially when compared to the other intros.
Neji also became boring after becoming a good guy.He didn't have enough going on besides being rude prior to his redeemption.
sasuke must be glad that he didn't chimp out and has naruto as an ally now, if they fought before the rinnegan powerup he would have been demolished
>>291325099my point was, if he can do that he can put live sacrifices in his back pocket as well. Jiraiya does the something similar when he arrests two rain village ninja for interrogation. >>291325145He was hoping she wouldn't but knew it was a possibility. why do you think he had the summoning jutsu prepped on his arm prior to the fight? why do you think he broughut Kabuto along? he isn't a moron.
>>291325894>why do you think he had the summoning jutsu prepped on his arm prior to the fight?Orochimaru had those since forever.>why do you think he broughut Kabuto along?Oro wasn't even sure if Kabuto would remain loyal to him prior to Tsunade making up her mind.
>>291326019>had them foreverbecause he always tried to be prepared for every eventuality. that's my point. he didn't just walk into situations blind. >he didn't know if Kabuto would be loyalirrelevant. he still brought him along as an assistant aned as backup for if things went south. >unironically trying to argue the man who has dedicated his life to learning all jutsu has no worthwhile jutsu in his toolkit>unironically trying to argue the man who fought two sannin to a standstill in a 2v1 couldn't beat one of those same sannin in a 1v1
>>291325807"If we fought we'd both die" my ass.
saske wonned
>>291326472...the marrying Sakura and impregnating Karin competition
>>291299540VIZ translationa are so fucking dumb
>>291326403>unironically trying to argue the man who has dedicated his life to learning all jutsu has no worthwhile jutsu in his toolkitI mean, yeah, outside of Edo Tensei Oro only has what? Wind style jutsus, a sword, stretchy limbs and snake related techniques? Most of those can be used without his arms.>unironically trying to argue the man who fought two sannin to a standstill in a 2v1 couldn't beat one of those same sannin in a 1v1It wasn't much of a fight desu, he took care of Jiraiya with no issue then got one shotted by Tsunade.
>>291326548>impregnating Karin
>>291325038Gaara going from murdering psychopath that takes sadistic pleasure in excruciatingly ending the lives of anyone who crosses his path to mild mannered good boy and also the leader of every single Shinobi in the entire land of wind in 2 years is so fucking dumb. He's fucking 15 and becomes Kazekage. And that's when Shippuden STARTS. Presumably he'd been kazekage for a short time before then. Him turning around to be a respected Shinobi of Suna is one thing, him being the de facto military leader is just plain dumb.
>>291326654>only hasonly uses*. and he wasn't able to use the more advanced snake stuff he used against Naruto in his fight with Tsunade because his arms were sealed. It took her a while to even get close enough to hit him, and he was still able to hold her off initiqally. Again, the fact she could not no-diff a guy who couldn't use the bulk of his toolkit, and who was significantly weakened because his arms were rotting off his body is only a mark against her.
>>291326801The sand is full of murder hobos who work for the ninja. Gaara is just too unstable to be a soldier in contrast to Sasori being able to be do anything. Gaara is more consistent in the manga where being an edgelord is just an act against Lee and Sakura, and he's unable to do anything against Sasuke.
>>291326990>fight with Tsunade because his arms were sealedHis arms were also sealed against Naruto.
>>291327121he was able to summon Rashomon during it. if they were, it's even worse for Tsunade because his feats in that fight were well above his feats in the Tsunade fight. we never actually see Orochimaru fight to his full potential at any poiknt in the series. the closest we get is his giant white snake thing against Itachi, but Itachi seals him away before he can do anything with it.
>>291326990That's because Orochimaru acted less like a spreg and more like a jerk before everyone saw how they can't recognize him. Orochimaru isn't really a person anymore but a demon wearing a human mask to Tsunade and Jiraya
>>291318744This sort of joke only works if you make the reader aware that there was some sort of hiatus inbetween chapters. If there was no hiatus then it's just fucking retarded
>>291326472Did they even have an actual wedding in canon?
>>291327276Then why did he run?
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/282986493/#282986493
>>291327276>it's even worse for Tsunade because his feats in that fight were well above his feats in the Tsunade fight.Well yeah, it's a later arc, Tsunade also gets better feats than her debut later on.What's even the point being made here?
>>291327623>fought to a stalematewhy didn't Tsunade finish him off?>>291327643the only thing Tsunade does greater after the sannin fight is her 100 healings taijutsu against a Madara who wasn't trying, and all it does is crack his susanoo. my point is that a healthy Orochimaru would've demolished Tsunade in a 1v1.
I love the Uchiha family. Especially it's matriarch Uchiha Sakura
>>291327702>why didn't Tsunade finish him off?Because Kishimoto didn't want Oro to die at that point?It was a little egregious that they let him get away.>the only thing Tsunade does greater after the sannin fight is her 100 healings taijutsu against a Madara who wasn't tryingAnd that's better than anything Orochimaru himself has ever done.>my point is that a healthy Orochimaru would've demolished Tsunade in a 1v1.I dunno anon, it sounds to me like you're giving Oro way too many conditions for him to win here.
>>291327876Sarada, her father and her adoptive mother...
>>291327876
>>291327945>adoptiveNot even the right term.
>>291327895>shifts from in-universe justification to real world justificationlol>Tsunade cooking 100 healings for years is fine, but Orochimaru having a functioning body is unfair prep timelmao
>>291327967What's the right term, then
>>291327945She adopted the baby Sasuke impregnated her with?
>>291327981Tsunade already had Byakugou storing chakra for years in her debut and yet she still only used it to heal herself, let's not forget that Tsunade's chakra storage in the war should technically be even lower than in her debut since she already used it to heal everyone in the pain invasion AND to heal herself from the Kumo teleport, stop trying to act like Kishimoto has any consistency.>out of universe justificationAh yes because "uh i guess they are already too far away and Jiraiya has some broken limbs" is a much better explanation.
>>291328129*ribsNot limbs.
>>291327984Step mother, adoptive would require an actual adoption.
>>291325243there isn't really any context for it iirc. anko and others are looking at them on the tv and commenting on them and corpses are shown where gaara and his team are.i suppose technically the corpses could've even been killed by someone else entirely but i kinda doubt it.btw, since you seem interested in this kind of stuff, i mentioned a few months ago that there's wordplay in this forest scene. gaara says he never thought of kankuro and temari as siblings but kyoudai literally means brothers and is spelled with the kanji for older brother and younger brother. temari replies that she as his sister is also requesting him to stop. and in other contexts, the sand siblings' spelling uses kyoudai with the kanji for older sister and younger brother.
>>291326990>Again, the fact she could not no-diff a guyI mean, the fight lasted a total of 2 chapters and it ended in the very moment she hit him, with the only damage done on her being two sword strikes that she tank.That's very much no diffing.Stop taking Kishi's power scaling that seriously, fucking Kabuto came out more impressive in that arc than Oro.
>>291327987Hate to break it to you, but the only woman Sasuke ever impregnated was a certain Uzumaki...
>>291328287Karin, honey, you already have Suigetsu, no need to post your delusions here.
>>291328287How the hell did Naruko get pregnant?
>>291328287Naruto, Kushina or Nagato?
>>291328194She's the legal guardian of Karin's child, yes.
>>291328305>SuigetsuAlso inseminated by Sasuke
>>291328321Yes
>>291328331Marrying someone with daughter is not adoption, retard.
8371ESLtard
>Mother Karin meme in 2026
>>291328399>Said the person who can't distinguish step parent and adoptive parent apart.
>>291328425Now post the part of the gaiden where they confirm Sarada has the same DNA as Sakura
>>291328404>memeI call it canon
>Mother Karin reality in 2026
>>291328457Anon, read the filename.>>291328469One man's fanfiction is another man's canon.
Uchiha clan is forever tainted by commoner Haruno blood. Deal with it.
>>291328489I decide what's canon because I'm Kishimoto. Don't tell anyone else though.
>>291328321Naruko.
>>291328495If anything, the Uchiha clan's hybrid alien blood tainted the pure human Haruno blood.
>>291328425How did this picture exist anyway? Did Obito have them take a group photo?
>>291328489Just like your fanfic of Sasuke actually giving Sakura a child.
>>291328639The fanfiction...written by the author?
Sarada is Sakura and Karin's biological child.
>>291328659>written by the authorI don't recall writing it though
>>291327632Will the tumbleweeds in that thread ever be surpassed?
>>291328744Then who wrote chapter 700?
>>291328659No, the fanfiction in your head.
>>291328802I actually don't care enough about SasuSaku to headcanon about them.
Sarada is Sasuke and Orochimaru's daughter.
>'SHANAROOOO!'>*instantly crushes your nutsack with a super strength powered punch, giving you a brief moment of pure pleasure before you black out from the pain*
>>291305255Hashirama wank is fine because Hashirama is just kind of a Chad doing his own thing. Itachi gets aggressively wanked onscreen and hijacks all of the plot. Basically Hashirama is mostly self-sustaining and wanked as a byproduct of things, Itachi wank IS the point
>>291299526Tobirama is the best character.
>>291329300Tobirama approves.
>>291329514He really is the coolest.
>291303549>291308243>291304551>291307309>291315640>291320075>291326126>291329591You're really just announcing this is all you have going on in your life lol
Shizune's built like a fridge
>they see me tumblin>they hatin>always tryin catch me bumpin dirtyTumbleweeds out!
>>291318837>>291319092>>291319047>>291319065The power-ups and team attacks are nice but it feels like Kishimoto was just making this shit for the video games .
>>291330507Why did you respond to 1 colored panel?
Owareru youni isoide iruKawai ta mune ga kari tateru no saHitokiwa tsuyoku kagayaku hoshi waIma mo tooku ni aruUshinatte yuku motome nagaraUbawarete yuku atae nagaraDare no tame de naku dare no mono de nakuOre tachi no ima gaOmoi kasane yume o kasane hibi o kasaneAse ni mamire namida korae chi o tagiraseTatakau koto mo aishi au koto moHaruka hikari no On the wayUragitte kita shinji nagaraKizutsukete kita inori nagaraDare no koto de naku dare no sei de nakuOre tachi no ima oItami hodoki kokoro hodoki kage o hodokiIki o tsumete hashiri nukero yami o saiteKanashimu koto mo yume o miru koto moOwari wa shinai On the wayOmoi kasane yume o kasane hibi o kasaneAse ni mamire namida korae chi o tagiraseI wanna rocksMune ni rocksI wanna rocksMune ni rocks
>>291318936Why should Madara care if it's Obito the one using the Tsukuyomi? Doesn't it have the same effect, whoever launches it?
>>291331432Why would Lenin care if Stalin bumps him off and takes over? Ego more than anything. The lust to be the one who exercises the power of life and death (mostly death) over the world. The "Tsukuyomi is good actually, the best for everyone" is a lie, he knows what they are doing.
>>291311954>and then they divorcedLee lost his hair and his girl...
>>291323046
>>291319026>fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck we're all gonna die>nothing happens>naruto acting like a little brat>repeat 10 timesthis arc is a farce.
>>291319207thanks op.
>>291327895Art of the Immortality made Tsunade realize she's not talking to an old classmate but a monster wearing his skin putting on the facade of civility. Sasuke spells out Orochimaru is just a literal demon incapable of being a ninja. He's so autistic nobody but the Sound Four, or genin can understand him
>>291306545Because of his Asura ideology. He wanted to make bonds.
