Why do Saiyans even have access to God Ki?Why didn't they do the ritual for the hybrids?
Perhaps they once originated from the demon realm, which is why their giant monkey forms have pointed ears
wife
>Fenyo as the artist>Toyotaro as the writer/storyboarder>Weekly OPUSWe won.
sweaty bed breaking sex with feral saiyan women
>>292040827Still, no proof or source to anything. literally just retards speculating.
Important to understand this whole discussion about "Le X won the rights from Y" are entirely speculation. It's just some of you think something concrete happened
I had worried that post Toriyama Dragonball would get too serious and edgy without him around to inject his humor and whimsy.I could not have predicted they’d be so on the nose as to remake Super with his humor and whimsy edited out.
>>292040983>>292040993The same way DB not being in Jump Festa can be used to say it's all over it can be used to see we're so back because they're making an exclusive event just for Dragon Ball. Literally all mfs are going off is speculation. Shut the fuck up already faggots.
>Agrees end to the fight>Continues anywaysSaiyan Pride in the mud.
>>292040867>Why didn't they do the ritual for the hybridsBecause they're not the main characters. Same reason Goku and Bejita got access to SS2. Prese understandu.
>>292040867Everything about BoG and RoF is retarded. Super should have started with Champa waking Beerus up and him going around the universe searching for fighters for the U6 tournament. Then Whis teaches Goku/Bejita/Piccolo/Buu to tap into GoD powers to get an advantage (Buu and Piccolo can't do it, Goku and Bejita get a red hair color off it). SSB stays non-canon. Then it turns out Toei hell is actually canon and Freeza has been training hard lately, and Goku somehow finds out about this and decides to bring him to ToP. Then it keeps going normally.
>>292041067>Not only was Goku fighting with shackles but he also wasn't paying attention>Was still whooping Bejobtas assBejita bros...
>>292041016Go read the Cell arc and tell me how "whimsy" it is.
>>292041085>Super should have started with Champa waking Beerus upGonna stop you there chum. For Super to work in the canon of the manga, the whole God thing just needs to go. Toriyama's answer to everything in Dragon Ball is seemingly adding another God layer. It's stupid, it's overdone, it doesn't work. Dragon Ball has a canonical ending, placing all this higher power shit in that window before EoZ is retarded. Unless Super's run ends with Goku going back in time to prevent Beerus waking up, there's simply no way this story (which is so far off the rails it's unreal) can tie in to the canon.
>>292041123Dragon Ball's "canonical ending" is a tie in with the retarded fanfiction that was GT. It deserves a proper ending that isnt a piece of shit. And there's nothing in EoZ that retcons Super unless you want to be autistic about dates or why X character isnt in the tournament.
>>292041123>NOOOOOOOOOOOO MY HERO SON GOKU MUST BE THE STRONGEST OR IT'S NONCANON ESE
>>292041123Between the start of the Manga and where we're at now we've had>KorrinSoft hinted in the manga as close to Godhood>KamiLiterally God oh wait no he's the earth guardian>King YemmaEstablished as more Godly than Kami in the Manga>King KaiEstablished as well beyond King Yemma>Grand KaiThe God the Gods report to>Supreme KaiHyped as the God the Gods look to>Gods of Destruction Whoops turns out there's even more layers to this nonsense>ZemuThis is just silly now.
Who the fuck is Zemu?
>>292041170A character so nonsensical I can't even recall lil niggas real name
>>292041158Correct.
>>292041158>Why is the protagonist the protagonist?Reviving Dragon Ball was a mistake.
>>292040867Nothing is canon without Toriyama
>>292041119How could it not when Mr. Whimsy was there
>>292040950>weekly magazines for monthly mangaYep this is a financial nonstarter.
>>292041016half of the last episode was a 7 minute rock paper scissors between the strongest being in the universe and a pig retard
>muh canonCheat sheet for the new guys.>Did Toriyama write it?If it was written up until 1995, then it's canon>What if he wrote it under pressure from Editor San as mentioned in interviews pre 1999?Canon can be debated in /a/>What if he was pressured to return to the manga by the publisher and Japanese government?Not canon>What if it was in the guide book?Canon can be debated in /a/. Toriyama at best was a yes man when the guide books were written. He didn't have complete oversight.>What if it was in the anime?Not canon>What if it was in a movie?Not canon>What if he said it in an interview?Toriyama was losing his mind by the late 90s. Interviews should be approached with this in mind. Canon can be debated in /a/>Is Super Canon?Is it written by Toriyama? Yes. Was it written by his Young Boy Toyo? No.
>>292041368No one wanted a Super remake bro.
>>292041368Everyone wanted GODper remake bro.
>>292040867Because Bardock time travelled into the past, created the legend of the super saiyan, then he fucked ZenOh's mother and became the progenitor of the saiyan race. Trust me, that last one wasn't in the OVA but it happened off-screen.
>>292041379How is it every time they say they’re going to make something new they remake something old we have to sit through as filler first
>>292041368When something is this popular you'll never make everyone happy, that's just how it is.
>>292041158Bejita was always the runt sidekick. He was never meant to be the strongest. That's Goku's role.
>Capsule Corp and Bird Studio are consolidating into one companyis it true?
>>292041410Because they want to pad the content. DB is a soulless money making machine, José. They've gone full One Piece. Not even One Piece goes full One Piece anymore
GT won.
>>292041410Why dont brown people like you understand Dragon Ball isnt capeshit and that you actually need to watch the arcs before Moro to understand what is happening? Original Super is unwatchable garbage. SSG Absorbed was completely retconned so the movies might as well be as canon as Dr Wheelo. Thats why this remake is needed.Did people seethe like this over FMA Brotherhood and Hunter x Hunter 2011 or is this just the brown state of this franchise that causes it?
>>292041517...the title of worse dragon ball series ever made
>>292041524>FMA Brotherhood and Hunter x Hunter 2011What?
>>292041524Yes, especially since brotherhood skimped on the first half assuming you already watched that part so it fails to stand up as its own product
>>292041081>>292040867Yeah, really, this is the actual reason. Toriyama just didn't care about the other characters when doing his plots or outlines, and then for Super Hero, they wanted to advertise Gohan getting something above the Red and Blue forms already, thus Beast.
So, how do we reconcile GT, Super AND Online? HARD MODE: No alternate timeline explanations.
>>292041524>SSG Absorbed was completely retconned so the movies might as well be as canon as Dr Wheelo.This 100% still will be in Beerus though since there was a short Super Saiyan Goku vs Beerus in space clip in one of the trailers.
>>292041119
>>292041713You can't reconcile them. Online's ending for Goku is completely incompatible with GT's."Sealing" God powers like some people wished to make Super lead to GT won't fix Freeza being a weakling in GT in spite of it being stated he trained since his last meeting with Goku.
>>292041531No, you are thinking of Dragon Ball Super.
Why do people even care for GT beyond SS4? They got that shit in Daipa already
>>292041531Don't disrespect GT
>>292041713GT is not canon. Online is the future of Super, decades after the end of Z. It's pretty established that's the case, that isn't even a question.
>>292041517*Taps sign*
Dan Dan and SSJ4 are the only good things about GT. Everything else is ass. And it's still not canon.
Iyoku WON.SHITeisha LOST.
>>292041852>GT is not canon*GT is canon to the original Dragon BallFTFY btw.
>>292041922Wrong, but okay.
We should just make a new GT where Goku retires and Uub and Pan are the new heroes of earth.Like when they redid Boruto
>>292041935I make GT every morning
>>292041867>Dan Dan and SSJ4 are the only good things about GT. Everything else is ass. And it's still not canon*the entirety of Dragon Ball GT is good. Super and NUper is ass. And DBGT is still canon.
>>292041957.... on opposite day
>>292041957>And DBGT is still canon.where's the manga credited to Toriyama?
>>292041922>>292041957Yep, that's accurate alright.
>>292040950>Fenyo closed his twitter>Toyotaro and Super scrapped from Jump FestaWtf is happening?
>>292041368Of all the non-serious moments they could have kept that wouldn't have felt like filler, the rock paper scissor match wasn't it.
>>292041935That will be a total FAILURE
>>292041971>original author's name in the GT outro/ending credits>"couldn't do more" "story and all">no scenes from any of the movies>story is 100% a continuation from the original Dragon BallRefute it.>INB4 muh CoolerNot the same Cooler.
>>292041922Right, but okay.
>>292041922still wrong
>>292041922No lies detected.
>>292041922Still right.
>>292041867And Baby Vegeta
>>292041935Z already showed how a new generation should be handled with Gohan in the Saiyan and Freeza sagas. Supporting characters on the side while still keeping the plot centered on Goku even if he isn't on screen all the time. There's no reason to go with a shitty "new generation". None of these have ever worked if the original generation lasted for a long time and were popular. It can only work if you go through the initial generation fairly quickly (like in Jojo).
>>292041922Nothing correct detected.
>>292041524>"Original Super is unwatchable garbage. SSG Absorbed was completely retconned so the movies might as well be as canon as Dr Wheelo.">He thinks they're going to retcon it.If you haven't noticed by now, this "remake" is just a remaster that cuts out most of the padding rather than following a "true vision" of Toriyama's script or even the DBS manga, which was just buzzwords to generate hype. The furthest they've gone corroborating with the manga was adding the meditation scene where Goku fought the original Z main antagonists because it didn't require adding new voice lines. That was it. They still didn't go removing Beerus' line about going 10% on Vegeta, so there's ample enough reason to conclude they'll probably maintain the SSG Absorption, as well as the Toei-exclusive transformation of SSB Kaioken, which we literally saw in the trailer. It's the same anime we got in 2015 with DLSS 5.
>>292042017>>292042035>>292042055>>292042071>>292042126Daima
>>292042145... won.
>>292042145...daipa
>>292042497I bet she shits like a truck
>>292042145>>292042497...more like BRAPa!
>>292042497I wish I was a pinworm so I could live inside that butt.
Goodbye, Son Goku. Goodbye, Bejita. Goodbye.... Dragon Ball....*explodes into one trillion liters of fecal matter*
>Goku gets old kai's remaining life>It's 5 million years>Outlives all his loved ones >All he has is Whis, Shin and Beerus for friends>*raughs*
>>292043351my parents had a laugh when Old Kai sacrificed himself just to get up again kek
>>292043351>300 years after his friends have died he has forgotten their names>400 years he's married again>500 years he's alone again>1,000,000 years he's the strongest being in the multiverse >2,000,000 years he's given up on any kind of sentient thought and sits at the edge of creation meditating>5,000,000 years he's transcended all thought and passes away as a flesh huskHard times.
>>292043351>old kai's remaining lifeHe had 1000 years left in the manga.
>>292042136They could have fixed by just making the entire Goku vs Beerus battle happen with Super Saiyan God, removing the lines addressing when he drops out of transformation and goes Super Saiyan. But that's not happening since one of the trailers already showed Super Saiyan Goku vs Beerus in space.
>>292043488They're just not going to remove one of the most iconic scenes of BOG as inconsistent as it is with the rest of Super's power scaling. We have to acknowledge that they'll adhere to the rule of cool at the end of the day, not what makes sense for the power scaling. If you want, you can headcanon it as a prelude for SSB.
>>292043587>They're just not going to remove one of the most iconic scenes of BOGThey already removed BINGO and "I WILL NOT LET YOU DESTROY MY WOOOOOOORLD" in the anime, everything memorable about BoG is already gone by default, Goku using Super Saiyan 1 to fight isn't a big deal anymore
RIGHT NOW
>>292043718>and "I WILL NOT LET YOU DESTROY MY WOOOOOOORLD" in the animeIt was "STOP ENJOYING DESTROYING THINGS" in Japanese, which understandably must have left a weaker impression on them.
>>292042497Ironic that if Iyoku wins then they will finally do the Planet Salad arc.
If Iyoku makes a Tien manga I'll forgive him for making Daima.
>>292044134>Tien manga>It's just him constantly jobbing
BoG is shit Super is shit
>>292044134Tien winny
Tenshinhan: Chapter Black
>>292044210BoG(the original movie) by itself is fine, Super is garbage.
>>292041557If you’ve read the manga, you’d know that isn’t true.
>>292041557OMG, so FMA also has faggots who hate true to text version of characters? Like Amerifags hate real Goku?
>>292042497I love her.She's my main in SZ.
>>292044349everything about ssg is beyond retarded and forcedthat entire ritual seems exclusively designed for the horrifying reveal that pan exists and nothing else
>STOP ENJOYING DESTROYING THINGS!!!"
GT is a better love letter to the series but it's still garbage bros. I do have a soft spot for the dark dragon arc because it ties back to all the times they overused the dragon balls. I just can't see Super having as satisfying of an ending.
>>292044522Eh, I liked that it wasn't actually enough to win in the end. It was pretty dumb that they essentially took the Baby powerup ritual from GT and added one more Saiyan though, yes.
>>292042497
>>292044188No one at CCT would ever write or think of this. The Toriyamas love and respect Tien like the fans.
>>292044622>you know the super saiyan legend?>turns out theres actually a SUPER DUPER saiyan legend as well (nobody mentions it in the freeza arc btw)it was just stupid. it shouldn't have been saiyan exclusive in the first place.
I want a Puar and Oolong comedy slice of life manga and a gritty dark Tarble manga where he becomes John Wick when Bejita (unknown to Tarble at the time) kills his wife. They can also adapt it into a Rated R movie.
I want a manga about Uub and Pan.
>>292044522But we love Pan.Also that scene with Videl revealing she's pregnant and turning SS was cute.
>>292043720NEVER LOSE I WONTBUNCH OF JAPANESE WORDS I DONT KNOW
>august of this year>Bird Studio changed the location to Tokyo>board of directors consists of Sasuke, Iyoku and 2 other CCT execs>Sasuke Toriyama is outnumbered 3 to 1
>>292044712And we learn about it from NAMEKIAN book of legends, of all places.
>>292044622I was today years old when I realized the kid wish did massively reduce Goku’s power level and that’s why Vegeta’s body is stronger than him up until 4 gives him an adult body again.
>>292044923It's more surprising how Beerus in his billions of years of life experience has never encountered this Super Saiyan GodNot even Bejita knew about it Just how long ago did this ritual take place?
>>292045075Before El Grande Padre reset the multiverse.
>>292045150>The Saiyans are alongside the Namekians the only race to survive the previous reset>Grand Priest knows about this and ordered Beerus to destoy them>Beerus orders Frieza instead>The Z Fighters find out about this and ally with Frieza and the other universes to rebel against the Angels and GoDs to stop the circle of Multiversal ResetsThere you go Toei, mail us the millies whenever you want to
>>292041557This is funny because both versions are still friends with the military characters with 03 even moving past Mustang killing Winry’s parents then later being friends and living with a nazi/nazi sympathizer just because they’re counterparts of his friend/brother. And since I know this was made by a woman, 03 Ed has said women should dress like women, hilarious.
How did Iyoku take over DB?
>>292045268he wished for it
>>292045249>03 Ed has said women should dress like womenbased
>>292045268He used the power of tracing shart to destroy it and then he picked up the pieces.
5th time's the charm
>>292045268By manipulating Senileyama in his advanced age
>>292045315I'd rape Goku here.
>>292045351Why?
>>292045268Elderly abuse
>>292045351Bulma, Videl, and Android 18...
>>292045268He made bet with Toriyama where whoever sharted the loudest would take over Dragon Ball. Iyoku sharted so loudly that Toriyama's brain tumor exploded immediately.
>>292041557Oh yeah. The dub voice for Shin and Old Kai also voices Father in FMAB.
Im glad Iyoku won, Cuckeshia refused to adapt the manga for years. They are retarded wan piss cock suckers.
>>292026742We got a stealth DBS thread disguised an an anti-yuri thread. It even has Vegeta in the OP. Let's make it ours!
>>292045428I would love her if she wasn't a stick
>>292045428>>292045468
>>292045468>>292045428a compromise between the two
>>292045468>offmodel "art"
Did reekdom really chased off Fenyo?
>>292045428She's only for me. That's why no one posts here. Please delete your post, thanks.
>>292045436Edward Elric = Z Broly/Nuly
Fenyo went offline...https://fenyo-n.com/archives/12415
>>292045606>swordcuck and other toxic anti-Toyo shitters made Fenyo-N leave Twittergood job, even your "goat" thinks down on you.
>RIGHT NOW NEVER LOSE I WONT
>>292045468CuteSexyRobutts’ art has improved so much.
>>292045661No bell, no lost
>>292045661The song was about Beerus
>>292045606>>292045630I can’t forgive him for censoring the Dragon Quest remakes.
How much of a flop it will be?
>>292045606There goes all the retweets Toyotaro had on his old account...
>>292045606Kek that dude is doing that even after doing all that shart censorship what a faggot.
>>292044522It would unironically be less stupid if they just called it Saiyan God. Calling it Super Saiyan God when the Super Saiyan itself is a legend is stupid.
>>292045701That wasn't his fault.
>>292045701It was not his fault, blame all the consultant faggots in top position of every company involved.
>>292045606This bitch would have killed himself if he was in Toyotaro's position.
>>292045781he could have said no, he was conivent with it
>>292045606R.I.P. his awesome Pokemon art
>>292045819>he could have said noSo would other freelanced S-E people like Nomura or Roberto Ferrari but it was an all time risk to deny them, probably due to contract limits.
It is over....just sell Dragon Ball to Disney.
*sell Shueisha to Apple
>>292045894Being a creative worker for big companies sounds like a pain in the ass, dear lord
Dragon Ball x DC where Goku and Superman fight
>>292045606HuhFenyo sounds like a weak person.
>>292045998Most Asian people are
>>292045606>pro censorship faggotNothing of value was lost.
>*raughs*
>>292046048Honestly at least it allows them to do more versus being on Shueisha's
the hype is dead, I will wait the ss blue episode
>>292046048>Iyoku is not part of the shartmake credits because the shartmake is fucking shitFuark he keeps winning
>>292046135favorite character?
Is DBS: Beerus the name of the entire remake or just the first arc, and each arc will get their own name like DBS: Frieza, DBS: Universe 6 ect ect
>>292046270Nuly
>>292046270Bejita!
>>292046271dbs beerus is the name of the remake of the first three arcs
>>292046271It is the name for all of them which means all of it will be low budget shart.
>Dragon ball stuck with shueisha for manga>stuck with Toei for anime>Stuck with bandai for gamesFUCKING HELL GET ME OUT OF THIS NIGHTMARE
>Fenyo deleted his account and all his artFucking RIP
>>292046356>>Stuck with bandai for gamesand who else could make db games?
>>292046048I don't think Dragon Ball alone is sustainable for a whole magazine dedicated for just Dragon Ball
The ammount of hostility towards DB Beerus here is crazy kek. Daipa clearly destroyed any good will left.
>>292046398I don't get it, the fight sequences will be better
>>292046356I fucking hate toei so much I hope Iyoku takes DB IP to another studio asaplet those faggots stay with one piss they love so much
>>292046156He's not involved because it's not another poopy diaper show like Yu-Gi-Oh Sevens
>>292046310Ahh so they're smashing the first 3 arcs together, that's okay I guess, they were pure SHART anyway. I wonder if that means Black and ToP will have their own longer arcs or be skipped entirely
yeah barber cock enjoyer alright.
>>292046398The removal of Bejita bingo has warped /dbs/ im afraid
>>292046398Episode 4 was daipa tier tbf
>The scriptwriter Yūsuke Watanabe originally envisioned Beerus as a villainous character who infects people with evil and was the one who gave the Saiyan race their ruthless characteristics. Also, Beerus originally looked like a lizard, but Toriyama changed his design entirely.I wonder what other changes were made by senile man?
>>292046398The eternal cycle of contrarians defending the old thing, despite how fucking sloppy and dogshit it was. Beerus is so much better than the show and movie it's not even funny. It needed this filler slashing and art fixes desperately.
>>292046451Toriyama art and storytelling turned to shit after Z ended outside of his (original) SS4 designlook at the new SS4 design he made him worseand all his new art of old characters look like utter twinks
>>292046451all of the good changes, clearly.
>>292046451SSG was going to have a cape of literal aura.
>>292046472>new art of old characters look like utter twinksthat's kino tho
>>292046488At least Tori had the foresight to know how fucking retarded that is
>DB prints free money for shueisha and toei>They choose to treat it like utter shitlike why? If i had a golden goose that shits me a billion a year i would milk itI know they love to dicksuck one piece but they can do both can't they? Surely one piece would have attention regardless if dragon ball got content or not? or is this another oda crying story again?
>>292046460Yup.
>>292046429>barber cockGonna learn how to cut hair ASAP
Green kittens
>>292045781It's all thanks to American faggot ways, they hate sex and nudity.
>>292046048This guy is destroying Dragon Ball.
Green saiyans
>>292044792no one loves or even likes pan. Videl got knocked up by Bejita, btw.
>>292046650No, we just hate sex and nudity getting in the way of story and action.
Daima season 2 continuing from when they all are returned to adults would have been better than this Super remake. SSJ4 intro mogs the fuck out of the new SSG scene btw.
>>292046721Both sides can exist together.
>>292044622https://youtu.be/NoeatZIfaRs
>>292046135>entire series about shartingthis would have imploded 2022 /dbs/
>>292046398I'm just waiting for them to have Goku "absorbing" SSG into base form so theres zero reason for anybody to keep watching
>>292046721You think like that because you've been cucked at birth.
>>292046395Yeah, shit like that would probably be an intentional loss leader.
The strongest
Should have been Dragon Ball Super - Champa.
>>292046451Vegeta has to look like a clown in front of Beerus *laughs*
>>292046825>destroys the hype
>>292046429>barber cockNuly cuts her hair?
>>292046451>>292046849I just find it funny that beerus was originally an evil lizard that corrupts people's souls and senileyama made him into a heckin comedy relief cat that deletes people's souls from existence over minor inconveniences and the whole cast has no issue with it.
Why are we getting erased?
>>292046528I'm sure at one point they were fine with jump pumping out more dragon ball super but Toriyama and Iyoku wanted more projects that were higher quality, even though anime like dragon ball were originaly designed as year round anime even if the content isn't supposed to be top quality every episode.
>>292046380Tencent
>>292046893Yeah because having an evil lizard retconning the entire saiyan race to be even more of poor heckin victims would have been absolute SHART. Toriyama salvaged what he could.
>>292046528Explain exactly how you would milk a goose.
>>292046528Because One Piece exists. So they would rather fund a LEGO spinoff of the One Piece live action over a proper Dragon Ball Super remake. There's obviously a problem with this line of thinking.
>>292046528Pretty much like how Warner Bros were treating the Looney Tunes despite making money>>292046907What ideas Iyoku came up with again besides Daima?Trunks arc?Broly becoming a canon?Kale?
>>292046825>Flops your whole series
>>292046725>season 1 killed toriyama, destroyed his home and made shueisha give up on the dragon ball franchiseI'm very afraid of what a Daima Season 2 would cause. This piece of shit is cursed.
>>292046825This shart is gonna turn into its own version of OGs atrocious episode 5 in some years, mark my words.
>>292046951uh anon toriyama retconned it so that the saiyans are only bad because muh heckin frieza made them do itthey're straight up happy flintstones villagers and loving parents in dbs
>>292046725Yeah, and a full remake would have been better than this shit remaster but it’s pretty clear that this only exists because it’s short and easy and cheap and Akio wants it to hold us over until Moro’s able to be marketed. And that’s fine, but to advertise it as toriyama’s true vision is a blatant lie
>>292047033Thats unironically going to be the fight next episode. From the trailers and the preview, it seems like they are 100% using touched-up footage from the original anime with nothing new.
>>292047019>made shueisha give up on the dragon ball franchiseActually that's because Shueisha JOBBED their rights away to GODyoku>>292047035Not really, at least they are still ruthless and prideful for the most part outside of a few outliers. They were still dicks before Freezypop and his daddy showed up, they just got conscripted into Cold's forces. This is nothing compared to outright retconning the entire infamous nature of the saiyans to be the work of one super evil entity
>>292046938>Tencent’s Naruto game is the most profitable game in its franchise and is about to get even more money with its global release > its One Piece game is objectively the best looking, most high quality game OP has to offer despite being gacha slop>meanwhile with dragon ball, Bandai has effectively killed its cash cow in FighterZ by burning its bridge with Arcsys >fumbled Gekishin >fumbled breakers >completely shat the bed with Xenoverse 3>let CC2 squander Kakarot’s potential and then let them freely carry on to focus on their OC shit instead of fixing kakarot or making a sequel
>Dragon Quest Dai was 100 episodes back to back just a few years back>Somehow Super can't get something like this even though it would definitely be less than 100 episodes to adapt from BoG to Super Hero
>>292046825I really thought the end of the first half of episode 4 would be Goku turning SSG and the rest would be the start of the fight, but they seriously spent almost the whole first half on that fucking rock paper scissors bit. After trimming so many of the important character moments in the previous ep, they leave this whole thing in its entirety. Who the actual fuck thought this was a good idea? It's honestly baffling
>>292047019It’s divine justice for whitewashing the Demon Realm
>>292047140>GekishinIt's pretty hilarious they're redoing the entire game because their current audience is too dumb to understand how to play.
>>292047019Kek daipa even makes real life shit flop lmao
>>292047195>NOOOOOOOOOOO THEY CUT THE BINGO SCENE, NOW I WON'T BE ABLE TO MOCK BEJITA BECAUSE I'M A GOKU PROFESSIONAL TESTICLE SUCKER
>>292047195>skips over mai and trunks interactions making goku black even more retarded>doesnt adapt bingo or make something similar>decides to keep the retarded jokenpo scene that was straight up filler cut from the theatrical version of BoG in its entirety with zero cutsAt this point I wouldn't be surprised if they kept that whole "Krillin is scared of fighting nameless jobbers" filler in its entirety on RoF as well. Now the 20 episodes for 2 movies and a movie length arc make sense.
Reminder that even in the extended cut of BoG the rock paper scissors gag lasted only 2 minutes lol
>>292047442>>doesnt adapt bingo or make something similarCase in point.>>292047428
>>292047428>Thinking just Gokubros were the ones mocking the manlet jobberlollmao
>Our remake is gonna be amazing guys we will get so many new fight scenes!>*gets10 minutes of a gay rock paper scissor gag*Shit ball has turned into a cuck franchise like juan piss and dandadan.
If you need teen Trunks and Mai to interact in order to understand Zamasu arc Future Trunks and Mai relationship you are retarded
>>292047614>we will get so many new fight scenes!No one has ever said this
>>292047614DB is way more cucked because it doesnt even reach decent animation tier while those 2 do.
>cut countless pointless filler scenes that destroyed the pacing>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S TOO SERIOUS WHERE ARE THE JOKES">keeps a joke scene>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHERE IS THE ACTION WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS"There's simply no winning with these people. I unironically think anime is not made for weekly episodes anymore. You either binge it or are left pissed off that the current episode didn't do enough
>>292047669If Goku absorbs SSG I'm going to be sharting all over these threads.
>>292045781AmeriSHARTS eternally buckbroken by CHADriyama-sensei iconic designs.
>>292047682It's happening. They showed SS Goku vs Beerus in the trailer
D-D-Don't worry guys! Our brand new DB Beerus episode 15 scene, which will consist of 18 minutes of the gay exam to enter the U6 tournament gag will save DB!
>>292047733Funny and accurate!
>>292047669>>292047733They need to cut the weekly shit and release each part in chunks, even if there's a few months in between. I know they want to keep hype and momentum up but it just ends up with ADHD retards having meltdowns during the slower episodes
>>292047787But everyone hates Netflix releasing everything at once because it like prevents weekly discussion or something
>>292040910... Goku's, to be specific.
>>292047733I wanna see Goku solve math problems. He did barely pass.
>>292044671>Cheelai POV:
>>292048216>0
>>292044671>Paragus POV:
Anyone but Chichi.
>the only good character development for him in decades showing hes more than just assblasted about Goku being stronger>"NOOOOO HE CANT DO THE HECCIN DANCE! MY JOBBER HERO BEJITA ISNT ALLOWED TO HAVE A PERSONALITY OR GROW AS A CHARACTER!"Shitgetanimals are pathetic...
>>292047442Im going to laugh if they keep Piccolos sacrifice which was stupid as hell.
>>292047669If the retelling goes beyond the Universe 6 arc then Toei is going to fix Trunks looking like a pedo which was a big complain in Super when he was interacting with present Mai
>>292048306Thats why Goku has multiple wives
>>292047614>>292047669Super is not Z, it is deliberately much sillier and cutting out the dumb humor won't change it for the better. It's why BoG will always be the superior experience, it is the perfect mixture that original Super and this remake cannot be.
Sometimes in life, you've just gotta go...... *BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM*!!!!!
>>292040956How many times would a female saiyan in heat make you cum inside her before she's satisfied?
>>292048507
>>292040867Is it true they removed Vegeta being pathetic from the beerus arc?
>>292048772>>292048322
>>292048538>one shart man threadnah
>>292048772They removed every scene of him humiliating himself
>>292048772>>292048796after toriyama flanderized goku into an uncaring retard vegeta became the most popular of the two by a mile, not really surprising they did that
>>292048750Mmmhm.
>>292048829Torishima is the eternal cuckold of the Dragon Ball franchise. Always watching and crying from outside the window, never let back in.
>>292048853toriyama created rancid dogshit before he died and nearly killed the brandtorishima is 100% rightonly editors made toriyam's stuff good
>>292048861Nope. Torishima lost, and will stay losing forever out in his cuckshed seething
>>292048833>by_literallywhomstthat's just ripped Dokkan art
>>292046451This is garbage though, rare Senileyama W
>>292047140CC2 only got the Dragon Ball paycheck so they can fund another .hack game lol
>>292047682>>292047711The explanation will be that SSG still remains within SS1 but gradually loses its power, which is why Goku will use SSG again.
Well?
>>292045845He should go direct the next Pokemon Legends game instead of senile Sugimori
>>292048216kek Vegeta is a retard
>>292048511So glad this shit ended, now the Bleachers can leave finally
>>292048872t.
>>292046528>or is this another oda crying story again?Probably, he has been full on seething his entire life at his infeority>first at naruto for its worldwide popularity over one piece >then at demon slayer for utterly mogging one piece in japan and making insane records>shat on toei for making one piece look "bad"he most likely cried to shueisha to make toei focus on one piece and forget about dragon ball
>>292049105>t.
>>292049110Naruto will deliver the death blow to stiffy btw.
>>292048216>this headcanon againNothing about that says it's geometry. It's most likely basic shapes.
>>292048853That would be Toyo.Torishima had actual impact on the series.
Green Jiren.
>>292049110Ufotable (KnY) and Studio Perriot (Bleach) should be a lesson for Shitoei on not to skimp out on the animation for their two popular shows.
>>292049110There's really no logical reason for Toei treatment if you look at their financial results dragon ball was on top for decades even with no content. 100% oda felt inferior Take the dragon ball IP and give it to mappa or anyone who gives a fuck about making money instead of nepotism faggotry
>>292049096Bleach still has the ongoing Hell arc.
>>292049175
>>292049250kb
>>292046994>Warner BrosThat studio wasted billions trying to chase Marvel/Disney and always failing spectacularly.
they fixed him
>>292047669>>292047787dragon ball was not meant for the modern era.
>>292049468Correct.
>>292049468Dragon Ball was meant to end in 1995.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nbHjCYGuh4Hah! Women! HAHAHA!
>>292049592Ok, seriously, what is this pic? Keep seeing it everywhere.
>>292049793Toyotaco illustration of a minor character who got killed by Champa 10 years ago
>>292048829>'it would be better to produce a Vegeta story than Dragon Ball Super'dbsbros our response?
>>292049818
>>292049882Back to the cuckshed ToriSHITma
>>292049745TenshinGOD's wives.
Toriyama himself wouldn't like Toriyama were he still alive
>>292049818Holy Fuark... What an ICON. How does he do it?
>when Launch finally shows back up with her ebon husband and their many children
>>292049767>bottom rightMe? HARD.
TenshinGOD of FRAUDS!
>>292050085Yu-Gi-Oh franchise's bitch
I want HEROIC GOKUI want MUSCLE like the 90'sI want PLAGIARIZED OST like the 90'sI want ARTSTYLE like the 90's
>>292050260>>292050306Bulma, why don't you have a seat over there?
>>292050326https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d200DatLtU
>>292050372Really ugly artstyle
>>292050306You now realize that the only reason Bulma hitched herself to Vegeta was that he was the closest thing to Goku around.
>>292050393Vegeta is actually a better version of Goku. he has more girth, and a better hairline
>>292049745Remove the colored ones
Bulma is a whore
>>292050448>and a better hairline
>>292050480Sasuke, that's your father you're laughing at.
>>292050393That balding midget is nothing like Goku.
As an adjective or noun in Italian, Moro means dark-haired or dark-skinned (e.g., ragazzo moro for a dark-haired young man).
>>292050535Best thing Toyo ever made.
>>292050440>>292050512Bejitachads ...this is our wife???
>discord is back
>>292050562>>292050608Did Buu's taste for chocolate rub off on them?
Goten and Trunks would never hang out with THOSE people
>>292050769Didn't Mr. Popo serve as their coach or something?
>>292050769
Those people?
>>292050871
>racismThat's against the spirit of Dragon BallGoku had multiple friends of various races
>>292050889
So thin skinned.
>>292050909
remember when cell absorbed toph that was a weird episode
>>292050850You will literally NEVER find Goku by Toriyama who looks like this. Looks like a weird hybrid between Naruto and Goku
>>292050898Not the dog people tho. In fact even that one wolf guy had racial conversion therapy to become a human or something I think krillin’s bald head played a part. Case in point Furries should be exterminated unless they’re simian.
>>292050930>OLDma
>>292040867So>GokuAngel>VegetaGod of DestructionThis is pretty clearly the way they're going, but what about Freeza? >very resilient to hakai energyI remember before the Daipa disaster there was talk about actual demon realm/demons to be diametrically opposed to GoDs/Angels and Zeno. Not sure if that is still open after Daima, but wasn't there a line about how Jiren's master was killed by a proper demon and therefore couldn't be resurrected? If so it would make sense they'd have some resistance to GoD's hakai, otherwise there'd never be a struggle. Would explain Freeza's power increases.
>>292051643If Frieza doesn't kill Beerus and become the GoD for an arc I'm going to actually lose my fucking mind. They should give Bejita the win too, and I'm not even a Bejitabro. Or Gogeta.
>DBS Beerus is nowhere to be seen in any netflix top 10s not even Mexico unlike a week ago while Jojo is in severalThe gag shit turned it into FLOPrus.
I just received some news from a very reliable source that the final two villains of Super will be El Grande Padre and Zeno, with Zeno killing Padre in a surprise twist to become the penultimate evil of Super. Don't tell anyone.
>>292051696The fact is, most people don't wanna see the same fucking story for the 4th time. It says nothing about the quality of the remake, or how interested people are in Dragon Ball as a whole. NOBODY WANTS A FOURTH REMAKE OF SOMETHING IN LESS THAN FUCKING 10 YEARS
>>292051791THVUKE
Did Bulma put out for a dragon ball before she met Goku?
>>292049195I wonder who's the best studio to get Dragon Ball if Iyoku somehow pry it off Toei's hands?I remember someone said Madhouse but I don't think they're at their peak atm
>>292051688I doubt Freeza will become GoD, Beerus and Whis already groomed Bejita and Goku into becoming their successors, if Beerus dies Bejita will take over. He's more of a GoD than that fat fuck walrus in the ToP already. Now if he kills Beerus or not is another matter. Freeza being part actual demon would explain a lot and also why Frost was so weak in comparison. He can't be a full demon however as people killed by him can be resurrected.There's also the matter of Zeno clearly not being the creator god, and not being outside of time, so I'm sure he has a father somewhere.
https://youtube.com/shorts/HOEIzNiFOP0?si=kkZ0KIZBQckvWzzJI came 4 times
>>292040867if the ritual was as simple as taking 5 saiyans spirit to another one, couldn't they just do it for every each of them and gang up on beerus?also why would the ritual to GODHOOD be so simple? you're telling me you just need to be 6 people to have access to god powers?
>>292051508>Not the dog people thoBecause Goku LITERALLY eats wild DOGS
>>292051688>Anyone approaching Beerus in powerNot happening
>>292051925Bejita and Goku are definitely being quietly groomed for those positions, at least from a narrative standpoint I don't think Beerus actually has any intention of that, but they both absolutely should turn it down. It doesn't fit either of their characters to accept that kind of responsibility. Goku would never accept it, and Bejita accepting it would undo all of his character growth since his introduction. The entire point is that he's growing out of his delusions of grandeur and wants to become stronger on his own merits because of his initial experience getting humbled by the Z fighters. Also no idea where that bit about Frieza being part demon has to do with anything, nor do I think that's ever mentioned or implied even remotely
>>292052002The cat has long been surpassed, no matter how much he wants to pretend otherwise
>>292052038Waiting patiently for the feet shot
>>292052035It wouldn't fit either of their characters but if some new threat shows up (that can actually threaten Beerus and Whis) they could still fill the role in terms of combat.>Also no idea where that bit about Frieza being part demon has to do with anything, nor do I think that's ever mentioned or implied even remotelyJust conjecture because it's clear Freeza is here to stay and we've gone from the Goku and Vegeta duo to the Goku, Vegeta, and Freeza trio for good now.Wish others got some time in the spotlight but that's just not gonna happen. At least Buu could realistically train up to be relevant.
>MOEtar
Just watched episode 4 and ngl I feel like dropping this like I did with daipa.
>>292052036unsurpassedrus will stay unsurpassed for eternity because this shit series is just a milk cow and it's not supposed to progress the story for it to continue milking
>>292047669Super cannot be fixed.
Reject Super.Embrace GT.
>>292052110Dragon Ball is a sacred celestial cow and we are blessed to exist in its presence something something clarify the butter
>>292047669I can't take anyone who uses strawman arguments like this seriously.
>>292052146Some day they will circle back and give it a third try.
>>292052072
>>292052146This.
>>292052110>Another delusional surpassed catfagHe was surpassed by Jiren who is already irrelevant himself.
>>292052261Not in the manga.
>>292052038>>292052231YUMMYROO. more
>>292052284>ToyoficNobody caresAlso wrong even in it
>>292052231MMFFFF.... HAAAAAA...MMFFFF.... HAAAAAA...MMFFFF.... HAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>292052261>He was surpassed [HEADCANON]UI Goku piss on jiren hard and is still miles below beerus, and frieza black who pissed on full ui goku mastered who is way stronger than the ui goku that pissed on jiren, got pissed on by black frieza to the point of getting fucking one shot by him, and black frieza is STILL far from beerus level, you're coping hardThe story is an eternal status quo milkcow no character is ever meant to surpass unsurpassedrus
>Kills your remaster
>>292052362>UI Goku piss on jiren hard and is still [CATFAG HEADCANON]
>>292052374But le Senileyama's vision is so fun! Pris laugh even if you aren't retarded!
>>292052231she never saw it coming
>>292052375cope jirentard you lost
>>292051336Why did DevilArtemis animate this?
>>292052483>Jirentard>When I outright said Jiren is already irrelevantSurpassedrusfags, everyone.
>>292052525your favorite character? weaker than unsurpassedrus and will remain weaker than him for eternity.
They should do a spinoff series following Frieza around during the gaps where he isn't dead or interacting with the Saiyans.
>>292052565What a terrible design.
>>292052619
>Frieza spinoff where she looks for her perfect new toy
>her
>herOUT
>>292052687kek
>RTH
It's a flop >>292043747
>>292052873KBC.
>>292052801dbsbros our response?
>>292052904The average consumer is a brain dead retard and pandering to them has literally ruined the world
>>292052873Funny.
>>292052687>>292052676I want to fuck those lips.
Who getting the best head?
>>292041957how to spot a mexican. Maybe even brazilian
>>292052904Who cares at this point? First Super, then Daima, both aimed at toddlers when most of the fanbase is 25+. Seems Toei got the message as evidenced by this remake but it won't really do well until we get something new that actually targets at least half the age of the audience. Retards here will call it "edgy" but if Toei wants the money we better see Vegeta punch someone in half with blood. You can screech about muh children's gag manga but people tuned in to watch Goku and Freeza fuck up planets, pic related pulled in tens (hundreds?) of millions of viewers worldwide. Kid Pilaf's gang trying to steal the dragon balls is going to pull a handful of contrarian faggot moeshitters.
>>292052904BoG is the best arc out of the 3. Its about to get worse.
>>292053412They should just move past EoZ already.
Grapes must be crushed to make wine.Diamonds form under pressure.Olives are pressed to release oil.Seeds grow in darkness.Dragon Ball might be feeling crushed, under pressure, pressed, and in darkness, but it is in a powerful place of transformation.Trust the process.
>>292053504Dragonball is a piece of fucking slop shit trash and it's finally dead. Get over it.
>>292050440In my copy of the english viz volume her nipples are uncensored
>>292053504Yup.
>>292053476>>292053494Toeibros, where was this amount of gore in the Z anime?
>>292053504Darkness?
>>292053476>>292053494Glad this edgy, childish nonsense is relegated to the non-canon prototype comic book. It's fucking embarrassing.>>292053573>WAHHHH WHERE IS MY 14-YEAR-OLD EDGY GORESLOPGrow the FUCK up and attain maturation before you post in my threads again.
>>292052146>Reject shit>Embrace turdHow about no.
>>292053482Just retcon it to be non-canon.
>>292053593Darkness.
>>292053610i would have it just end up being a dream that Pan had. we all know she'd be dreaming about a young, strong brown boy uwu
>>292053600Kek, calm down.
>>292053652>no argumentThat's what I fucking thought, childish little bitch.
>>292052146>Reject MOLD>Embrace GOLDHow about YES!
>>292053675Make one first.
Nuly?A cuck.
>>292053690>i-if I pretend you didn't make an argument then it doesn't exist!>admits he has no argumentBACK to your childish little non-canon comic book while the actual fans appreciate the true vision.
How's the relationship between Toyo and Iyoku?Now that Shueisha lost and Toyo works for them I think the chances of the manga coming back are grim unless they make a deal. Maybe if the Moro anime does good.... but that means we will have to wait YEARS.Iyoku is the sort of guy who would hire someone new and reboot the manga. Or maybe they won't even release one...
>>292046398I don't hate it, but it's not the "definitive" edition it was advertised to be outside of the visuals.
>>292052374Kekypow
That's what I fucking thought, SHITngabitch.
He may be a grumpy old man that nobody in the industry likes but only Torishima can save Dragon Ball now.
>Shartmake floppedExpected. You cannot succed if your 4 first episodes are dogshit in modern times. People doesnt care about nostalgia if the quality is garbage traced from 2015 shart.
>>292053717Hm?
>>292053957>W-W-What? I-I'm sorry, Master, I don't speak English very well...Little fucking BITCH. I accept your concession.
One Piece is shit
>>292046686Not the content drought we were having outside of manga format? There's no excusing the lack of post-TOP continuation for 9 fucking years. The man's pushing his luck, but at least he's trying, which is more than you can say Shueisha has been doing for Dragon Ball after Broly.
>>292053976Many are saying this.
make fun of vegeta is my god given right. the demake took that away from me
unsurpassedrus won
>>292053976Bleachbro, here. Agreed.
>>292053976It fell off when Imu was revealed.
I think its time for us to adress the Iyoku problem.
Beerus?A cuck.
No matter what happens, we must agree to always support Toyotaro.
>>292047442>I wouldn't be surprised if they kept that whole "Krillin is scared of fighting nameless jobbers" filler in its entirety on RoF as well. A Krillin that's been out of action for 12 years underestimating himself isn't far-fetched. At least he didn't job to them in the anime, unlike the movie which made him make a fool out of himself that needed to get saved by Gohan from a stray ki blast at the last second.They should REALLY get rid of the Tagoma/Shisami bits though.
>>292054121...as she gender transitions.
>Guys here were celebrating Iyoku not being credited for the remaster>It ended up being shit with 10+ minutes unfunny jokes and bad pacing at the same timeI think Iyoku winni wonni
>>292053971Hm?
>>292054157I think you're a tranni trooni
>>292052873Why is CHADccolo bullying a mentally handicapped person?
>>292054157That means he had input but uncredited himself to avoid criticism
>>292054117na that's nuly
>>292054180>PLEASE use smaller words, O Scholar...Read a fucking BOOK instead of your shitty prototype SHITnga.
>>292054157Iyokek would have liked that shart humor for troon baby manchildren to do well though, he also lost.
>>292054202Nope. The surpassed jobber cat watches GODly breed Cheelai like a good cuck.
>>292054121We prefer Salagir here.
>>292054231Yup YUP!
>>292054231unsurpassedrus? breeds CHEELAI under the crying glare of DOGly
>>292041016Toriyama's whimsy for DBS boiled down to tard Goku and cuck Vegeta gags
>>292054273….SHITrus dreamt.
>Twitter facebook and reddit also think ep4 sucksIt's over, Toei cannot hide behind Senileyama's corpse this time like they did with daipa.
IYOKU JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>292045606what fucking extremism? dude just did DB here and theremost weren't even attached to any project
>Even Fenyo deleted everythingThis franchise is imploding.
>>292054423we need a hero
>>292049158And he probably is still more respected in that industry than Toyotaro, who's probably gotten shafted after Toriyama's passing. It's pretty sad unironically.
Hannywinny.
>>292049592The strongest Saiyan...
>>292054492But enough about GODhan.
Beerus:>fun, whimsical design that hearkens back to classic Dragon Ball and oozes Toriyama's passion>interesting characterization that allows him to be menacing without feeling like an irredeemable monster like Freeza>on the flip side of that, his personality displays even more of that classic Toriyama whimsy that makes him easy to like>interesting foil for Goku in a unique and refreshing way where he is always leagues ahead of him but his influence and their rivalry pushes himto new heights, the status quo keeps him from feeling like just another Piccolo or Vegeta>visually interesting and unique fighting style, techniques, and ki colorBroly:>lame rehash of a classic Z movie character with a cliche Tarzan-esque design and backstory>incredibly boring characterization, either softspoken and dull or a screaming maniac with no coherent dialogue>no interesting interactions or relationships with any other characters and is relegated to comic relief immediately after his introduction>no interesting techniques or forms to make him stand out>ultimate "Potential Man" that never actually fucking does anything, even putting Gohan to shameYeah, even a lobotomite could tell that Beerus clears.
>>292054423>Caves in like a bitch after being bullied by a few spicsKekaroo.Toyotaro had 1000 times more criticism but didn't delete and ran.
>>292052904I think it's pretty obvious that the problem with Dragon Ball Super Beerus is Super.Get rid of it, get rid of Beerus, get rid of Super Saiyan God, Blue, and Ultra Instinct, get rid of the multiverse, Zeno, Freeza and every other character featured in Super. Oh, and stop using the DBZ lettering.
Yabba-dabba-doo!Nuly, yes it's NulyHe's the modern version of BrolyFrom planet BejitaHe is the greatest cuck in history!His girl will take cat penis and he'll laughWhile watching courtesy of Whis' staff!When Nuly sees CheelaiHave a yabba-dabba-doo timeWith the destroyerHe gets aroused and cries!
>>292054529He deleted everything because of that?I thought it was because something legal happened because he works for Shueisha.
>>292050306>WALLma
>>292052873She tanked this.
>>292046825>>292052374>SHARTshia also likes extending these tranny jokes for retarded toddlers like Iyokek with diaperThis IP will never get a good production ever again.
>>292053981This guy is making slop, he needs to be removed.
>>292054518Didn't read.
>>292054561Kbc.
>>292054537Nah, Beerus, SSG, and the multiverse concept are all kino. You're just a fat, ugly loser that thinks hating things makes you seem intelligent and interesting, but you're actually just an objectively inferior, stupid, unloved piece of shit.
>>292054423What did I miss?
>>292054529KWAB.Toyo and Salagir are tougher than this shark.
Oh boy, I can't wait to see Gohan's ahegao face again...
Trannyo is a faggot cocksucker who supports censorship
>>292054611Struck a nerve, huh?No need to project, baby, Super needs to be erased for the sake of all humanity.
>>292049767This is depicting how the other characters wanted to see her btw, so Goku wanted her to pick up martial arts at some point (according to that guidebook).
>>292054665>no argumentAs expected of some fat armchair Redditor that thinks hating popular things is a substitute for a personality.
Enemies to lovers is peak.
>>292054573he wasn't getting enough money. he made like 200 dollars a month from all the headache social media brings
>>292054662>>292054662>>292054662Go my hounds.
>>292054633You gotta give it to Salagir: he's continued his work for 15+ years despite getting flamed on even by his own comment section.Toyo doesn't seem that more resilient than fenyo and probably got away with it knowing that he was more or less safe as long as he was in charge of serializing the official DBS manga. He even got away with tracing.
This is what Super Beerus and the last few episodes of Daima should have beenhttps://x.com/Zerotwtx/status/2117681579690803585
>>292054214Hmm?
>>292054680Face it, Super Beerus is flopping hard, and Toei is shutting it down. Shueisha and Toei are, as we speak, burning all physical copies of Dragon Ball Super and destroying all the hard drives, too.It's fucking over.
>>292054680Likely a wanpiss niggaboo too.
>>292050326During DB she was 14 and he was 12
>>292054518>interesting characterizationim hungry and you gave me bad food, im going to delete your soul
>>292045476'vich may have durability, but can he outlast Killa's stamina?
