TIME TO FINISH IT YOU GAMBLERS.THE FINAL VOLUME OF THE WEEKLY DRAWN MANGA
Looks like I got the "timing" right.
>>292147119PARALLEL TO THE FIRST COVER
Let's go. I'm ready to see how this ends.
>>292147123Just the 4 most important characters in the story regarding plot and themes
Other Volumeshttps://pastebin.com/9HGt1efZVolume 48 1/2>>292109087Volume 48 2/2>>292127020
>>292147119Im not ready for it to end gamblerbros....
>>292147128It seems you are not the only "me" here>>292147119This is an excellent cover
>>292147137And Eko
>>292147119Just compare this face to the yujiro look alike on the first cover
last volume... :((I know there is the spinoff, but still...);(Also I can't edit the Pastebin so don't expect any updates for a bit, 'kay?Also also, if anyone wants to post the all of the covers after the dump, please do, I'm sick and need to sleep...Anyways... please enjoy the dump, Gamblers!!
>>292147160you killed your dear friend and you are laughing?
>>292147160Really like the way the teeth are drawn
>>292147160Baku-san is not a bad person btw
>>292147172Get well soon Pastebinanon... and take a mighty sleep!
>>292147174>I defeated gambling itself
>>292147177He’s betting on Hal surviving
Cant believe it all ends here
>>292147141Is there any way to see desuarchive pics without zooming in?
>>292147174I get him I would tweak this hard as well if I managed to pull the troll of the century
>>292147211World peace was making Yakou retire and stop brewing coffee
>>292147196This is the biggest compliment you could probably get from Baku, only Hal could have given him his high
>the tunnel effect
>>292147226a user script
>>292147252BAKUBROS?????????
>>292147252!
HOLLLYY FUCKKKKKTHIS IS NOT THE END
>>292147172So you are announcing to the whole world that you are jobbing to sickness?
>>292147281yes yes very good baku, very good... however!
>>292147252>>292147281BEAST
>>292147281THE ALIENS HAVE ARRIVED
>>292147281>"WE" HAVE "ARRIVED"!
>>292147252OH SNAP! RIP Leader NOT
TWO SECONDS!!!!
>>292147316O MY 2 SECONDS NEN!
>>292147333AIEEEEEEE!!!!
>>292147289All part of my plan to get healthier for the Baki storytime!I swear...
OUR PROTAGONIST IS IN BIG FUCKING TROUBLE
>>292147361This is probably my second favorite spread because baku is genuinely shitting his pants here
>>292147289He "arrived" under a "razor thin" margin.
DESTINY AND FAITH CHADS WIN AGAINST FREE WILL
>>292147380The reaper has finally come for Baku...
>>292147281Words cannot express how many bricks I shat the first time I got to this page
>>292128959>>292147160>>292147174funnyroo
Bakuchads...
>>292147172>>292147196Thank you OP, I will!Also the covers:https://files.catbox.moe/vaapr7.zip
>>292147419This is it Baku, find the hanky or die
>>292147361>Ranko suddenly becomes more beautiful
>>292147160Baku...
>>292147440Baku relied on Lady Luck and Destiny... he is not fit to be a gambler
>>292147211Ok, both are psychos and deserve each other.
>>292147430I'll post them at the end
>>292147281I suppose "we" will have to resort to "that" afterall...
>>292147401>I ain't dead yet. Knuckle up, bitch.I think I like Hal more than Baku at this point
>>292147479ty <3
>>292147498paneling in these next few pages is goated
>>292147498Sadakunibros...gone but not forgotten...
>>292147498Sadakunibros, we're still relevant even in the final volume
>>292147515Randoubros! We are relevant!
Reminder Chadakuni was meant to be one of the Kakerou members for Ideal
>>292147548Wait they actually took over ideal?
>>292147576It'll be explained in a little bit
>>292147498>>292147515>>292147548>>292147569kinooo
Say, OP, how about dumping the whole volume for today. Wouldn't it be fitting to end it with a bang?
KINO
I read Batuque pretty long time ago, but did Sako do any cool paneling like in this Volume?I genuinely don't remember.can't wait for the storytime :)
>>292147641BAKU SUDDENLY GETS A LOT LESS ATTRACTIVE
>>292147627Tchhh a OP who loses his final gamble doesnt exist!The Dumping gamble will continue!
>>292147641I can't believe I'm actually considering the possibility that Baku could lose.
>>292147641I love the rough sketchy line work
>>292147641>Baku suddenly gets a lot more dysgenic
>>292147665Amazing page
>>292147699This is the most emotional page in the series for me, even moreso than Kyara’s death given her happens next
>>292147665Dump everything except the last chapter, it will be very funny for new readers.
>>292147699This page has a lot of meanings>grateful for making Kakerou stronger>garetful for you being my friend >don’t look back as in don’t literally look back because you’ll see me murder you>don’t look back and accept the fate that’s been handed
>>292147756THE MAN FORMS A GAMBLE ONCE MORE
>>292147699T__T
>>292147856????????????
>>292147863Baku and Yakou hallucinated Leader coming back, deep down they both wanted him to be alive
>>292147856wadda hell?
>>292147875...
>>292147899they are shitting their pants
>>292147883Wanted and feared
>>292147899Baku looks sad here, he wanted Hal to come back didn’t he?
>was spoiled of leap second>didn't know the gamble still went on after thatI was bamboozled and subverted
>>292147899>gambler high is finished and you realised you killed your best friend
>>292147899>>292147875Souichi is...a big liar
>>292147899>Baku’s facewas he actually worried that he wouldn’t be able to bring back Hal and that he was dead for good
Wait so did Hal die and they only thought he stood up or did he actually stand up, hold his speech and died?
>>292147361>ranko becomes a lot more feminine after suteguma permanently joins kuramagumiare they fucking
>>292147971They hallucinated him coming back
>>292147982Baku don't do that, the old man has a broken arm and his other hand is dead tissue.
>>292147419baku is shitting himself
:)
>>292147641baku the mouthbreather
Today, the manga that can make me cry doesn't exist on Earthsike
FINFINISH DAS ENDE
>>292148023:)
>>292148043Beautiful spread and beautiful dynamic
>>292148043last spread is that chin angle.splendid
>>292148043>honey I need you and your friend to lay down on the floor for a bit
>>292148079>For the first time in his life,>the gambler felt fear.
RATE IT9.5/10 for meAmazing final gameKino from start to finish
>>292148043THOSE DAMN EARS!
>>29214810010/10 it is THE gamble
>>292148100>>292148119It's PEAK, I'm afraid
>>2921481009.5 for me as well, I do think there is a little too much exposition once the referees enter Fukurou's room, but aside from that it's perfect
>>29214810010/10 I can't imagine a different surpassing the leader. Leap second is pretty much THE plot twist in gambling manga it has not been and wont be surpassed
>>29214810010/10best gamble in the manga easily. easy to follow, complex, and has the best two characters in the story at their peak narratively and in terms of intelligence.just the fact that i didnt have to learn shit about cards and hands and whatever makes it better than air poker already
>>2921481006/10Too much infodump and reactions.
>>292148119So Baku is interpreting Hal’s words as it’s not worth it to focus on his death and should look forward to leading Kakerou. He can reap all his benefits now. There’s nothing to feel sad or guilty about
>>292148162OUR HEROES!!!
>>292148162ALL our heroes are hereNO ONE is missing
>>292148162OUR KAKEROUES.And that filthy rapist, Kaji
>>292148185...and KEKji.
>>292148119What the fuck, they’re just going to let his body rot there? It’s not even cold yet, what a bunch of assholes. Yakou, I thought you saw him as your own child? Baku, I thought he was your best friend and you were trying to make him remember you? Souichi you deserve better
>>292148100Amazing ending but overall the other gambles were more interesting and fun.
>>292148204>Souichi you deserve betterNo he doesn't he lost kek
>>292148233ENTER!
>>292147252[laughter stops]
>>292148205Wait...Littering?!NOT MY HERO!
>>292148233GETTEM ON BOARD, ILL CALL IT IN
>>292148233ENTER
>>292148233>Mr. Kakerou, I'm JCG
>>292148233MR MADARAME, I'M JCG
>>292148187>will never forget Kyara but already forgot SouichiHal bros….im only joking, he knows Hal will come back, right? It’s part of his plan
>>292148233>Dr. Pavel?>I'm JCG.
>>292148162That Yakou is still alive and standing on his own is a miracle by itself.
>>292147875well i guess the handkerchief is on the ground lol
>>292148284MARCO IS THE ONLY "STRETCHER" WE NEED
>>292148262Don't ask too many questions Mr. JCG
>>292147419I can only imagine that the room smells like shit from Baku emptying his bowels at this moment.
FUARK
>>292148043what the hell are those necks
>>292148308midara is such a little cunt
>>2921481007/10Pretty good but overrated.
>>292147524I mean when you think about it it's the gamble that basically kickstarts the entire main plot. Everything prior to it was just introducing the core cast of Baku, Kaji and Marco.
>>292148308Nowa is gonna go medieval on Shion once they get home
>>2921481007/10the leap second and the peanut gallery bring it down a few notches but the art is great
>>292148308Always makes me smile
>>292148308Kek, you just know Midara did that on purpose
Ok lets betT1 or BLG?
While all of this is happening, the real Arata is building his own Outer Haven for gaming larpers btw
>>292147419Anons weren't kidding this was the better cliffhanger for yesterday
Pretty cold of them to just let the former leader’s body rot on the island. At least cremate him like his father
>>292147961They didn't just imagine him coming back from the dead, they even had a collective hallucination of him saying the exact same things. Leader was a genuine ghost trying to trick Baku one last time.
>>292148419You know we don't know what they did with the body right?
What do first time readers think the last 7 chapters will be about?
>>292148447ENTER THE LEADER OF CLUB KAKEROU!
>>292148447Who the FUCK is that first nigga on the left
>>292148447all our favorite referees are here
>>292148447>time to use my super secret gambling club to fulfill my porn addiction
>>292148447>Baku (El Jefe)
>>292148452Beach episode with Baku/Marco/Kaji in speedos.
>>292148459Pretty clearly that's Sako, wonder what number he gave himself.
>>292148465>Mizue suddenly gets extremely cute
>>292148447All members of Kakerou will now be forced to wear white
>>292148465Is that the foreign affairs woman or a new referee?
>>292148459Looks like that guy that was with kadokura at the end of Labyrinth arcThe one that Baku calls a big liar for shaking his head implying Marco was dead
>>292148465cute, is that the acia girl?
>>292148447I'm gonna say it, I don't like end-of-series Usogui artHalf these people look like fucking aliens
>as your new leader I have but one command>we are rebooting the great breast mission series
>>292148510Souichi told him not to look back but he still did
>>292148510>usogui enters a zanpakuto dimension
>>292148528Gamers..it's the end for us
RE-ENTERRRR
>>292148528Gamerbros...
>>292148528Gamers, it's fucking over...
>>292148528Gamers... it's owarida for us...
>>292148528It's anuddah gamergate
>>292147119When yesterday's thread was posted I thought "I'm tired I'll go to sleep and catch up on it in the morning" and then it got fucking archived before I could
>>292147119Hell yeah boiisLet's hope for more Suteguma
>>292148528GAYMERS B T F O
>>292148528>Chapter 533: What I wanted to see>half naked womenSako gets it.
>>292147160>lol said the gambler>lmao
RE-ENTERRRR 2
>>292148574One last rape for the road...
>>292148574Uh oh, he found another victim, didn't he?
>>292148528how is this gonna affect midara's legacy?
>>292147231Yeah if a keikaku like that came together I couldn't help myself either
>>292148607KEK
>>292148597I wonder how these 2 will get along as a duo, I want to see them flex their investigative skills
>>292147211But wait, don't kakerou referees work until they're dead...
>>292148574>Kaji enters a rape
>>292147252>>292147281HOLY FUGGGG
>>292148625is that the lalo corpse retriever guy in the other car
>>292148625>floyd calling him Kaji-ChanWho does he think he is, Baku?
>>292147856>>292148023Leaderfags BTFO
>>292148651He finally gave up
>>292147123>leader, his parents, grandpa and husband
>>292148651Ayyy
>>292148654yep, that's him
>>292148651BIG head
>>292148651Did he decide to walk because Midara fucked around with him one too many times and he decided it wasn't worth keeping a secret if that asshole would keep injuring his legs on purpose?
>>292147361I don't know what to focus on, Baku shitting himself or Ranko somehow looking like that
>>292148680"We" have truly "arrived"...
>>292148464and Mogami
>>292148671Leader is straight, he has Nobuko
>>292148651aliens walk among us
>>292148691He probably figured if there's anyone other than him who knows, it's not a secret anymore, so might as well come clean
>>292148597OUR DUO
What are Kaji and Marco’s official positions in Kakerou now? Is Kaji like his right hand man or something?
>>292148691KEK I like that theory
>>292148485>this new leader is kinda cute
>>292148701Hi Muteba!
>>292148719Yakou B the relevant
>>292148738lel
>>292148719Baku's favorite Yakou
>>292148701ENTER NGUBUSAlso I just noticed that Baku's phone is supposed to look like Hal's cube here
>>292147641>baku suddenly has an aneurysm
>>292148574Kaji knew her so are we to assume that they found Nobuki and gave her employment or is this an entirely coincidental meeting in a random office building or what?
>>292147684Where the fuck are those two going
>>292148383T1
>>292148738>>292148760The gag of Anoma cutting everyone in the middle of their speech continues
>>292148779How about you wait and see
>>292147699awww
>>292148804>usogui could never learn Kek, he never told them the details
>>292148738>Baku interrupting Anoma firstkek deserved
>>292148821BAH GAWD IT'S MARCO WITH AN AED KIT
>>292147856>>292147875>O MY SCHIZOPHRENIA
>>292148738A diamond schizo to the very end
>>292147929Same
>>292148043One last attempt at the under the chin ear shot
>>292148863>hal got a girl but is now retardedwell /a/? is it worth it?
>>292148863HOLY FUCKING KINOOOOOOOOOO
>>292148863>those tits and thighsHal gets to fuck this everyday now
That's it for the first half of Volume 49!Thanks for reading and dont be a liar anon or the Lie Eater will come for you!!See you tomorrow for second half of Volume 49 and the end of Usogui...BUT NOT THE END OF THE STORYTIME
>>292148863>Hal (Professor X)
>>292148883Anon, he's a vegetable now...
>>292148887There are two prince bee books?
NOW THE COVERS
>>292148651My headcanon is Shion dropped the super extra hot food Nowa asked him to do while riding the helicopter and Nowa just gave up
>>292148545Nobuko is... JOBBING
>>292148100It's hard because the heights are some of if not the highest we've had, but it also has a lot of lamer stuff and I don't want recency bias to cloud me too much. I'd say 8/10 at best, honestly maybe 7/10 since I think I gave air poker an 8 and this isn't as good.
Are Nobuko and Hal dating now? Is she the First Lady of kakerou? How will she react to her boyfriend being the leader of a ruthless criminal organisation?
>>292148276He better get his hands amputated ASAP
>>292148863really cute moment but marco looks so weird
>>292148887Thanke OP, what a ride it has been. How are you going to take responsibility now that soon I won't have anything to do at midnight?
>>292148233CIA?!
>>292148863Marco's giving her the "bat" while he watches?
>>292148905There are two prince bees in the story. So are Baku and Souichi co leaders of Kakerou?
>>292148863>marco suddenly gets a lot shorter
>>292148959Uhhhh, there will be a Baki storytime next Monday, I think?
>>292148959Wait for the Baki storytime?
>>292148308I can't tell if Midara is fucking with him or not
>>292148863I don’t want to be that guy, but you could make an NTR series off this page alone
>>292148863hes not a vegetable right? _(
>>292148928Hal is currently unemployed because he lost STLUnless Gakuto does him a solid and gets him a job
>>292147196Post gambling clarity starting to hit
>>292148887Anon arent you going to dump the epilogue too? There is one with Yakou telling something to Baku
>>292148959>How are you going to take responsibilityHopefully Baki can keep you occupied until i continue with the Toshio Sako anthology in March 2027!And if you wont read any of those then we will see each other in another thread!
>>292148919I think the implication was that Nowa was gonna "accidentally" spill the food on Shion as payback
>>292148863Wasn't the loser's life going to be "collected"?
>>292148905Eba drew the books to help Leader get his memory backHe had to change a few things here and there due to passage of time (like their meeting location). Plus he embraced it as a hobbyOr Baku had another one made, who knows
>>292148447Baku (forma de leader)
>>292148979>>292148982That will overlap with the Batuque storytime in March you know.
>One of these is not like the other!Also as a final Penalty.I will draw the cover with the most votes with my "amazing" drawing skills!I'll post it at the end of the final storytime
>>292148987Is the guy who likes watching people suffer fucking with him? What do you think?
>>292148784That seems really unhygienic
>>292149021That's all up to Leader.
>>292148528Gamerbros the foids are badmouthing us...
>>292149021Situation is reversed now
>Souichi spared Baku in the first StL>Baku spares Hal in the 2nd StLNeither had the guts to kill the other, they’re both softies at heart
>>292148574Rapist aura
>>292149025"I" will talk with Jack-san and will dump them in perfect sync!We are all "me" afterall!
>>29214899233 just speaks to me, honestly I want to frame it on my wall.
>>292149011Oh nice catch anon. But I would bet it went the other way around. Nowa tried that but because of some unexpect shiit he dropped on himself or made Shion drop it on him. For some reason I like to see Nowa get screwed over
>>292149033I will vote for cover 27, you can draw yourself as Baku and "we" all pointing at you for forgetting the subject or something
>>292149033The last 4 have the best drawn faces
>>2921481007-8/10First half and all the reaction pages kinda dragged it down. Really, really strong finish though and the emptional aspect elevates ir.
>>292148651How the FUCK was that hand recovered?
>>292149021He did die so technically his life was taken
>>292148738Shine on your crazy diamond
>>292149063I haven't read Baki, but isn't it really long? Unless Jack dumps a huge amount or takes a break specifically for the Batuque storytime, I don't see how that's possible.
>>292149021Looks pretty "collected" to me right now.
>>292149088A couple of weeks of freshly grinded coffee and it was as good as new
>>292149109Don't worry about it.
>>2921481006.5/10 way too much reaction panels. Really break my jams.
There's still a lot to go, huh?
>>292148863Arguably an asspull but I'll allow it
>>292149145yup, rest of the volume + 9 chapter spinoff
>>292148887Thanks OP. What a ride it's been.
>>292148863well i knew he would survive but i find it kinda lame that he did
>>292149038He likes people collapsing from the peak of their hubris, doesn't really fit here
>>292149143Damn Jack-san that's brutal
is Kengan, Baki and Usogui the holy trifecta of schizomanga?
>>292148843>015>>292148887>017You missed a page OP.
>>292147982>>292148005>>292148023>Two men arguing over an imaginary handkerchief and a hallucinartionI cannot believe how much this warmed my heartfucking kino
>>292149109>takes a break specifically for the Batuque storytimeThat's up to Jack-sanBeing honest it did take some Energy to continue dumping for 3 months for 2 hours non stop (with the help of others as well) i'll see what Jack-san wants to do maybe he wants to take a break after a few Volumes and i can dump Batuque or something like that.We'll see in those dumps!>>292149008>arent you going to dump the epilogue tooI will! Thats why i wrote in the spoiler that its not the end of the Storytime!Still not sure if i dump the whole Epilouge in one thread or do two."We" will decide that tomorrow!
>>292149184Switch usogui with JoJo, nothing in Usogui comes close to the batshit snail sequence in part 6 and if we’re talking about nonsensical schizophrenia then we have part 8 which is a cousterfuck
>>292149188An Anon who can use his eyes doesn’t exist!>>292148863
>>292149081"I" made that almost a month ago.But "I"m not OP, so it doesn't actually matter.:P
>>292149184>>292149212Yeah usogui doesn't really fit in there. I mean arguably kengan doesn't either but I digress
Damn this ending is SAD
>>29214810010 OUT OF FUCKING 10AIR POKER BE DAMNEDI love these two mentally ill freaks duke it out in a game of guessing. Quite literally the climax of everything in this manga. Baku, souichi and kakerou. Leap second, even while being somewhat aware was a thing, was simply such a brilliant move that makes me wonder how one becomes aware and utilizes such niche things to create this. Seriously, i cannot stress how much i enjoyed this gamble.
>>292149184Freesia is unhinged, Usogui doesn’t fit unless your definition of schizophrenia is just ridiculous pseudo science but even then there are crazier manga out there.
>>292149155I meant in terms of actual content. The Eba flashback, the second half of Prince Bee, The Vices, Gonen, the heart operation, Hal coming back, Plan A. Man that's a lot for half a volume lol. Haven't read the spinoff yet.>>292149260Nothing to see here, move along.
>>292149184Kengan isn't really schizo outside of its posters. To most outsiders, it would just look like an ordinary fighting manga with a really shitty sequel.
>>292149063None of them will ever caught up on the actual dumping plan!>>292149025Then read one at day and read one at night.>>292149109If I take a break, it's because someone or something IRL has fucked with me. And I have a whole lot! Otherwise, I will not because I want to share my passion for Baki and give the "greens" a good time just like I had with Usogui.
>>292148760>Lalo would have table flipped the stakes had Baku not won StL
>>292149287Yeah it's a lot huh.next time just highlight the text and hit ctrl+sif you're on mobile, uhhhh
I'm still on the protoportus volume... specifically Kyara getting neck stabbed. Think I can catch up by tmrw? I have the day off... tempting.Even if I don't, I'll "read" it via the archives. Thank "you" all for you're hilarious comments and OP for bringing us together. Even if I'm lagging behind this is my 2nd read and I've learned and noticed so much reading together with everyone.
Remember the chapter where Yakou asks Baku what he planned to do if he acquired Kakerou, it’s all coming together now
>>292149312Cool. So have you decided on how much you plan to dump at once? Half a volume? A full volume? I want to see how I will fit it in my schedule with the other dailies/storytimes I have lined up.
>>292149335It was the first time I missed that shit in almost 100 threads kek. It's like Fukurou jobbing on the 4th round. Ludokino.
Why bees?
>>292149376Hachi means bee, Souichi’s alias is Hachina
>>292149342That sounds pretty far back, so probably not unless you speedread. And this especially isn't a manga where you want to do that. So just in case we don't meet again, I'm glad to see you enjoy it as well.
>>29214810010/10 for the emotional payoff at the end, Baku the absolute madman betting everything on this one plan
>>292149203OP-san, the epilogue/spinoff has ~200 pages across 8 chaptersjust sayin~~~
>>292149394Un-bee-lievable. I thought the Hachi in Hachina meant 8. How did I miss that.
>>292149246I think I did remember that, it would be cool to see OP's version of it but I understand if he doesn't want to repeat it
Kinda lame how Yakou and Hal are set to die but just survived at the endGate of death i guess
>>292149353Half a volume, it's good. On average a volume has 5 chapters of 17 pages so it should give anons enough time to read, shitpost and read something else or go to sleep not too late.
>>292147961This pages confirms for the 100th time that ghosts can briefly communicate with the characters in-verse. They fucking heard the same lines of dialogue.
>>292149436You've got to bee kidding me anon how could you miss that
I missed a couple of threads but I must reply to this one.292110322>Guys for fucks sake, stop liking evil women.Holy fucking shit anon, how can you be the most goddamn gay person 96 threads dedicated to a manga about gambling prancing lala homos.
>>292149439Cool that you remember that, but agreed, I'm very interested how much has OPs drawing skill improved
>>292149109>>292149312For reference, Breakfast Baki back in 2021 took 5 months to dump at a pace of 1 volume per day. So keep that in mind.
>>292148821>Nothing is ever predetermined>It just feels as if sometimes it was all decided from the beginning>it just feels like that when you look back afterwards>Everyone has been bearing their own destinyKino....
>>292149462Collective delusions
Really love the friendship of these guys
On the topic of baki, wasn't chapter 72 supposed to be released on the 5th?Did Itagaki take another break weak?
>>292149512>one year of BakiKino!
>>292148843>Why are we charmed by Madarame Baku?>As long as we are with him, we are able to see what we want to see>There is no other man, able to show us such thingsFitting as we readers too got charmed by him too. Otherwise, i we wouldn't be here 500 chapters after him meeting a random bum in a pachinko.Truly, he showed us what no one else could.
>>292149529kadokura......
>>292149033My vote goes for 45 with OP and Anon but would also like 47
How many doomps left?>>292149512>1 year of Baki>My first experienceIs this the Kino declaration experience?
>>292149650Should be 3 if OP splits the spinoff in two threads, since one will not have enough image slots
>will never get usogui animeFUCK ME
>>292149550Found this from the official site of the magazine in which Baki is published, so maybe this is the reason?
>>292149143you're stupid and i hope your dump fails
>>2921481008/10 in general.10/10 for the last 5 chapters or so.Leap second narrowly beats "Hal it's 32" for the best twist in the story, but Air Poker is easily the best gamble.
>>292149133>Literally a whole year of baki
>>292149756nta, but you remind me of the hunterfags that get all pissy when you criticize one aspect of their manga.
>>292149775Is this loss?
>>292149033Ok!Remade the poll for the covers if anybody wants to use it!https://strawpoll.com/XmZRQNOPmgdhttps://strawpoll.com/XmZRQNOPmgdhttps://strawpoll.com/XmZRQNOPmgdor not...
>>292148522Nobody "likes" it in a vacuum, I feel readers just respect the (WEEKLY) journey Sako walked to get to this point, and he could still deliver amazing spreads even if the characters started to look wonkier by the chapter.
>>292148522Sako hit his cognitive load at the end of STL and his art collapsed
>>292150013while "we" are talking about our WEEKLY gambling mangaHere's the spreadsheet of something
>>292149988I've cast my vote
>>292148522post-gambling nut clarity
>>292149890well, i think there's plenty aspects of usogui you can criticize except for air poker and surpass the leaderhxh, on the other hand, is just an average 6/10 manga
>>292150167its just ragebait hunter scholars, do not engage.
>>292148522but final arc has the best spreadssako just focused all his drawing power on important pages, so everything else looks wonky in comparison
>>29214810010/10 desu, A simple game taken to the extreme by the drug and each player's strats
>>29215014313 years.What an absolute beast.
>>292150237no, i'm just not a fan of togashi's stylei like character driven stories more
Hal winning would be more satisfying ngl
>>292148308They say that Shion's legs stopped working that one day when they went out for shiruko. Terrible shame, terrible. No one saw it coming.
>>292150255that's just another way of saying his engine could not go full power for every page anymore.
>>292150255It has the best "events" happening in spreads.Every single awesome spread in StL would look even better if Sako had completed them when he was 7 years younger. By the same logic, every awesome spread from earlier arcs would look a little worse if End of Publication Sako was the one holding the pencil.
>some obsessed faggot has kept bringing up hxh on every thread of the storytime for 3 whole months
>>292148887it's tomorrow, lads.WORLD PEACE
>>292150534That's not a spread
>>292147361
>>292150716Then I urge you to ignore the pic and just ponder the words.
>>292148634Eba wasn't a ref when he was Leader's attendant. Seems to be you can retire (stop taking work) but you aren't leaving Kakerou
>>292150829my favorite gamble. why the fuck was he naked anyway?
>>292150534Sako doesn't even reach his peak artstyle and artskill until late into the Tower of Karma, circa chapter 250And maybe even of you think the quality of his output keeps declining, he actually keeps amassing experience and skillYounger Sako wouldn't be able to draw the composition and expression an Experienced Sako knows how to
>>292150829Better
>>292150823Kino
>>292150850Why wouldn't he be naked? He's the captain.
>>292150850he was a man of the sea
>>292147641>durrrrrrrrrr
>>292147401>he's even doing the 6-7 poseAHHHHHH
>>292148043Laid tf out
>>292147875>>292147856>>292147832>Baku and Yakou both had a sheer gamble high they developed a shared schizophreniaThey deserve each other
>>292148100>>292148119Kino......kino..........
>>292148100If Air Poker was a 10/10, this was a 9.5 out of 10. If Air Poker was a 9.5/10, this was a 10/10. Simply the way it is
>>292148276>>292148938>Every ref looks le beautiful>Fucking Yakou looks like he's two feet in the grave
>>292150941but these are opposite conclusions...
>>292148452Man, I completely forgot there was an entire volume. If this were a different manga it'd be a single epilogue chapter showing Baku and Kaji's kids or something
>>292150965literally the face of a man who got his soul sucked out because that was a true gambler's extasy
>>292151035>Baku and Kaji's kidslove finds a way
>>292148738Lalo really died and stayed dead as he lived huh
>>292151078you could that say that was Vincent Lalo'sIDEAL
>>292150859>keeps amassing experience and skillHe does, but not the stamina to be able to demonstrate his toolkit nearly as often. There are plenty of stretches in later Usogui that can take you out of a moment because the art/page layout is serviceable at best. Some pages start to look as checklists of events that need to be quickly conveyed so we can move on instead of a scene you're supposed to enjoy for its own sake.
>Usogui about 10 years of weekly and about a quarter of the way in beyond kino and excellent artMust have burnt Sako out some considering Batuque was monthly and Genikasuri is biweekly (with breaks)
>>292150534IMO, StL's art is uniquely suited for it. The expression and shading really sells how all 3 people involved are running on fumes. Even when Baku's at his smuggest he still looks like he would fall over to slightly strong wind. It's a big departure compared to other arcs where everyone is a superhuman in control of their destiny. The panelling and pacing could be less crowded, but I wouldn't have StL look like anything else.
>>292151018Essentially I'd say one's ratings depend on what they wish to see from the climax of a story and whether or not they considered Air Poker OR StL the climax. If anons don't mind spoilers for a certain JoJo part... It isn't dissimilar from Part 7's Dirty Deed Done Dirt Cheap vs The World: High Voltage as arcs. One is the physical climax of the story while the other is the emotional climax / fall off of the story. They're both excellent arcs, but you will rate one higher than the other depending what you value in a story's climax and what you consider the climax to be
>>292150850He was Russian
>>292150534This is only (maybe) true if you treat his art style strictly in a vacuum and ignore every other aspect of his evolution. No chance ToK Sako would be ambitious enough to draw something like this, or this sequence >>292147611. In fact if you open any volume from around that era you'll see mostly boring negative space sequences. We'd never get something like bakueyehair.png or hurryandlose.jpeg from a younger Sako.You're, like, "attacking" (for lack of a better word) the finale by comparing Protoporos pages to Battleship ones in order to "defend" Tower of Karma? I don't even know where do you draw the line.
>>292151150I can argue that early Usogui has not just as much, but much much more barely serviceable pages and with art style being shit on top of that.
>>292147141Here we go, my favourite chapter! Most horrifying scene in a non-horror work ever!
>>292151262Uh.... yeah, I won't disagree that Protoporos aged better than Baku vs Video Store Owner and such.
>>292148863Marco's eyes look weird.
>>292151221Oh, that's what you were getting at. I can the it at that angle.
>>292151185I think it's fair to say that every chapter in StL has at least a couple of pages and spreads that look so intense and raw that I wouldn't trade them for an "improved" version, but there are also plenty of pages where the faces just don't look engaging and a more polished approach would elevate the scene tenfold. I always thought pic related was unfortunate for the weight of the moment, especially because a few pages earlier we get the awesome "DON'T TURN AROUND!" chained Baku spread.
>four gods>handchopper>contradiction gameAll among my favorite games. I'll always love you Protoporos.
>>292149021It's similar to the losers death technicality of Ranking Battles. Because Souichi died during the match and was resuscitated after it was over, his life was technically collected. If Yakou hadn't chosen the Near-Death drug, such an opportunity couldn't have arrived, which perfectly ties into the current tract of philosophical narration from Sako. Magnificent
>>292147361His fucking face lmao
>>292147361We need an "it's over..." count for this manga.
>>292151630Remember the non-sequitur neck man chapter?If he survives the hanging he gets to start his life over again. On some level I think Leader was thinking always thinking about punting STL and 'dying' so he could live how he wanted rather than being kakerou's heir with a ton of karmic baggage
>>292147281sheeeeeeet
>>292147498>>292147515sadakuni? mentioned. all those other scrubs? dead and forgotten.
>>292151043You think he's going to give those gloves back to Kadokura? His mangled hand has been fucking marinating in necrotic blood for over an hour at this point, it's probably better for everyone if he burns them.
>>292148023>>292148043does this count as a double victory?
>>292147174>>292147361peak
>>292151228>ignore every other aspect of his evolution.There's also the possibility that I might not find the trade-off worth it in its entirety, or my opinion might change in a case-to-case basis when comparing raw aesthetics to artistic experimentation. It's not a perfect science.But I do think you're selling even Labyrinth Sako short if you think "bakueyehair" is totally beyond his capabilities or creativity. Since you're the one asking me to not think "in a vacuum", I will invite you to do the same and imagine a version of Usogui in which Drop the Handkerchief gets used as an earlier gamble instead of StL. I honestly think bakueyehair shows up there with no issue. hurryandlose is another matter entirely, it'd be a conversation about EoS payoffs.>comparing Protoporos pages to Battleship ones in order to "defend" Tower of Karma?What do you mean? I wasn't the one who mentioned ToK (Battleship and Bookstore are better).
>>292152015From Baku's perspective, more of an imperfect victory since he fails to make Hal go over 5 mins. It's a reminder to him of gambling's nature, in the end he can't truly control everything and have to leave it to the uncertainty of whether Hal can tank it. Similar to the sequence in Air Poker before the round 5 result comes out.
>>29214810010/10
>>292151938Suteguma?REFERENCED and ALIVE.
>>292148308kek
>>292148719yakou b(est)
>>292148779Kaji played a game with her offscreen to get her exiled from the island.
>>292148863no way hal wants this, he's clearly gay for baku.>>292148887thanks op.
>>292148995Hal should still have his day job in the CIRO (nip CIA) I think.
>>292152102>From Baku's perspective, more of an imperfect victory since he fails to make Hal go over 5 mins.i'm not convinced. if this was true no way baku wouldnt seethe about it. i think it's actually the opposite, leader claimed it was thanks destiny that baku won, so you could call it a moral victory even though he had lost; but baku managing to get the right call show that in the end destiny played a part but it's not what granted baku the win, even without the time trick he could have won.
>>292148100Solid 8The best gamble to this day is Air Poker
On re-read, StL wasn't as good as I remember. It feels like Sako just gave in to popular demands on spoonfeeding the reader with too much unnecessary reaction faces and exposition. I have gained more appreciation for Bull, Labyrinth, KY, ToK and Battleship games. They are simply the best Usogui-style gamble. Imagine if ToK is written like StL. There will be no need for Duwang to create pages of foreshadowing and timeline events because readers are spoonfed from the get-go.
>>292152619The whole ghost Hal sequence is like 70% Baku's internal doubt and fear. "If it's Hal, he could survive off that 2 seconds", "all my wins have just been benefiting Kakerou" etc. refuting his big victory speech here >>292147174 where he claimed his efforts have surpassed destiny and gambling.IMO that's the pathetic-cool part of gamblers: they constantly tried to manipulate destiny in their favor out of greed and thrill, but still can never escape it. Baku is the smartest junkie, but still a junkie nonetheless.
>>292152892ToK and Air Poker are my favorite arcs in the series, but I think the emotional scenes and overall atmosphere elevates StL in such a way that most of my complaints about the game mechanics or third-party commentary end up not mattering much when I try to rate it.I don't think StL is a 10/10, but the fact that so many readers think so is a sign that the arc was able to leverage its position as the climax of the story and leave a powerful impression when it's all said and done.
>>292152125Grimmjaw and Byakuya?
>>292127205>Usogui has something special that I can't define.I totally agree.>I wouldn't call the manga retarded. I feel like this comes off a bit anti-intellectual I do it from a place of love, but there are scenes in Usogui that don't fit the mold of a normal "funny" scene. I have no way to describe Hyougo falling from the top of the Tower, using Yakou B to avoid fall damage, and then getting a boner before retuning to the Tower (only to fall again later and have a mob character comment "hey, that guy fell again") as anything other than retarded. For someone writing an "intellectual" manga, I really like how out of pocket Sako can be with stuff like this.>Btw I read Batuque before Usogui actuallyNice. I like Batuque as well, but I wish it was longer.
>>292152096>I might not find the trade-off worth it in its entiretyWhat do you expect me to answer if you're going to make a claim about how much BETTER younger Sako would've drawn it and then immediately retreat into "it's just my opinion bro"? That's not what you claimed in your first post, but fine.>I will invite you to do the sameBut to answer this, I don't see it. His entire toolkit as an artist was different. Grittier lines, heavier inks. His creative process would be entirely different. DtH is very much about near-death experience and hallucinations, which fits the current (as of 2017) ethereal and "experimental" style much more. Even the composition of Minowa being depicted as a minotaur is different than what you're proposing. Would he even think about drawing it? How do you think his older linework would improve StL?
>>292153168other than going too heavy on the capoeira glazing the start of batuque is crazy goodlike some other anon said after the althetic park it kinda loses it
>>292153794I never got the hate for Batuque. The ending is definitely weak but the Tetsuma fight is high octane kino, up there with good Usogui fights
>>292153794For me it loses the plot when the parents are returned to herBut I can't really remember how the story goes in detail so I could be talking about the same thing.
>>292148100Air Poker was better, that's all I could tell
>>292148308Fucking Shion
>>292147160>>292147174>He laughed
>>292153823Tetsuma hard carries Batuque.
>>292147401This is the coldest fucking shit in a story that takes place in Antarctica
>>292153754Dude, my original claim clearly consisted of an hypothetical scenario: "if you gave Young Sako and Old Sako a script of what you needed him to draw on a page (like say, an unfinished draft), younger Sako would make it look better for sure". My words were simple and clear. If I say "every spread would look better" or "every spread would look a little worse", it's natural to assume I'm referring to the spreads as they currently exist, each with their own specific center focus, positioning and composition. I didn't mind engaging with your curveball ("but younger Sako would never even THINK about drawing this or that spread") because talking about Usogui is fun, but is it really surprising that I answered with my own opinion when your main point in based on vibes? "No chance" a younger Sako would be "ambitious enough" if he were drawing a different arc with different dynamics and situations? To quote you, "what do you expect me to answer"...>I don't see it.Ok, but I do.In fact, it's harder for me to imagine Sako, as an athlete, never coming up with a visual representation for the expression "he has eyes in the back of his head", which is very common in sports commentary, as soon as he had to draw any game that involved Baku having to make to react or make guess about something happening behind him.>How do you think his older linework would improve StL?Outside 10 or so double spreads, the characters would look more detailed in every single page. If we go all the way to Battleship artstyle, I honestly think the whole gamble would look gorgeous, especially the scenes with Referees commenting on it (first of all, everyone would look like an incubus with indecently long eyelashes).
>>292154147I like Ichiri, but if you erased Jyungo and Tetsuma from the story, neither of which are integral to the main plot, Batuque suddenly becomes a 4/10 read.If you made a list of the 10 best chapters of the manga, those two characters carry like 8 of them.
Fuuuck the scene where Hal stands one last time is so insane. Its my favourite alongside the one where kyara has acid splaahed over his face and just puts on glasses. So badass
>>292153754I don't think younger Sako would have been better per se, at least when it comes to accentuating the grim nature of StL and the aftermath or the expressions, but by far his art has a lot more aura in it than I think can be adequately measured by other means. The Minowa panel but with the introduction of the ref who will oversee StL would have gone hard I'm sure. Sako is just a lot less aura-orientated, and that's fine
>>292154669both anons are wrong because the perfect answer already exists in air poker, characters look cool and handsome enough and there's plenty of the trippy artsy out-of-the-box stuff that people liked in stl. but saying "young sako would never draw this page" is like going to a powerscaling discussion and saying a character will lose because he won't have any good ideas of how to use his powers. so the guy who drew baku opening a hole to stare into suteguma's soul >>292150281 would never think of drawing leader turning into a baby or baku's beholder eye? what if he had thought about these scenes years before he drew them, what if he just thought of them while taking a shit in the bathroom?
>>292154348It's an imageboard. It's inflammatory by nature and I don't expect you to think about the nuances of what you say every time. I do it too. But you said, verbatim:>Every single awesome spread in StL would look even better if Sako had completed them when he was 7 years younger. What you described after is not a "natural" reading at all, a mangaka is not an inker in a comic book production. To think about it this way is essentially what I described as "treating it in a vacuum" before. Nothing wrong with thinking about things in a vacuum, you might even be right, but I've never seen someone contemplating a "what if the page was the exact same but with a different linework" hypothetical before.>engaging with your curveballThis is only a "curveball" if your original idea is, again, that of an inker. I believe this is the main misunderstanding here. Every artist has his own visual "vocabulary" which matches his skills, and Sako is no different: this guy is a minotaur, a battleship explodes, the Bullhelit. His paneling changes in Protoporos, Air Poker has a different style which culminates into StL You're underestimating the thought process behind it all.>based on vibes?I'm not even sure what you're talking about here. The "no chance" part? Is it really any more of a generalization than your initial statement? You already walked it back and said "outside of 10 or so spreads" so ok, I'll admit it, maybe there's a chance.>the characters would look more detailedSee I don't even disagree with this per se, but it seems we're talking about different things so I'm not gonna address it.
>>292154867No I'm sure, but I'm just saying current Sako likely wouldn't be able to capture everything that made the Minowa panel great at the same rate that old Sako wouldn't be able to capture the depth of expression present in StL. Each is uniquely a product of Sako's journey and evolving art as well as what he thought was cool at the time. It's not that he "couldn't" draw such things of course, it's just that if he would to, he would either choose different compositions or the framing of the cooler shit like the Beholder eye would be different entirely and accentuate other aspects of Baku's determination or his dynamic with Leader.I'm essentially (as a third party) arguing that Usogui is a product of Sako during that specific time period of his life, and that we would just get different (but not worse or better) interpretations of what he envisions for Usogui at different periods in his life.
*ahem*I don't give a FUCK about the princess bee
Like I give a shit
>>292154895>but I've never seen someone contemplating a "what if the page was the exact same but with a different linework" hypothetical beforeReally? I'm sure I'm not the only anon who has ever wondered about this in Usogui threads. But yeah, it's just something fun to imagine.>You already walked it back and said "outside of 10 or so spreads" so ok, I'll admit it, maybe there's a chance.Haha, that's fair. Regardless of my original point, I really think there are some spreads in StL that are perfect the way they are (especially the Smug Kariume one).
Baku and Yakou sharing the same hallucination is kinda forced desu. Makes the whole thing feel a bit cheap.
>>292156268It works if you allow for the supernatural in the series
