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THIS GENERAL ISN'T JUST ABOUT SLAVE TRAINERS OTHER GENRES OF GAMES FIT HERE ALSO (Please read the next part for further clarification).

This is a general about slave trainer games and the creation of games where you play as a male and dominate women. Discussion about games not being created here is also acceptable as long as it's related to the topic at hand(i.e. playing a male and dominating women). Futa belongs in weg not here. If it has a dick it's not a woman. If you let others fuck her, you're a c u c k and you don't belong here either.

Games
Just use f95zone fag

Tropics list
https://vapordevs.gitlab.io/stg-games-bin/games_list.html

If I forgot you please mention it

Maverick wrote a guide for scripting. Shows how to write/structure scenes for coders. Good for idea-guys & script-writers:
http://pastebin.com/gRyrGgDt
Contact info for major contributors:
https://quip.com/I2f8AaPEEr0a
Some of these people are looking for writers and artists. If you're interested mention it.

Report & ignore shitposters, people that scream proxyfag/samefag/waifu/waifufag, people that post beast, multi-male gangbang shit and futa spammers
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>>8553096
>>8553096
okay listen miles your game isn't a slave trainer, it looks nice but isn't it more of a WEG?
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>>8553333
>Maledom general
>"Regrettably, it's true, standards have fallen in adult entertainment. ... You know, people forget that the *brain* is the biggest erogenous zone."

And the male brain wants SLAVES.
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>>8553333
Game doesn't have to be a slave trainer to post here and its been that way for a long time, you are a retard and I'm not the dev,
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Anyone here play Free Cities? I've got a slave since day one who's still not trained. She's stuck on very hateful/terrified, I've tried pretty much every function in the game
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>>8553800
Play something good instead
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>>8554080
>Free Cities
>Not good
You disgust me on a visceral level.

>>8553800
You have to break her will, force her to do mundane, basic tasks for the moment while focusing your training on her, if possible put her with a couple of other slaves who adore you so that peer pressure gaslights her towards subservience.
Obedience goes up first, loving you as her master comes later.
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>>8553333
>okay listen miles your game isn't a slave trainer
I never said it was, OP says in all caps non-trainers fit as well. Also, I'm not the one posting those pics. I welcome all types of games as long as they fit into the rules. I'm also open to helping other devs who are working with Unity.

My fav types of games are ones where you can build a harem and impregnate your girls.
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>>8554513
That guy is literally a shitposter who just wants to drive away people from the general don't bother feeding him
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>>8554874
NTA, but...if nothing else, this general serves to thicken developers' skins. Sometimes I feel bad about it, but nothing here, except for the promotion of anti-cuck content, should be taken seriously anyway. Of course, sometimes prolonged exposure drives a dev insane. I mean, just look at Kalashnikov. He's a good example of how not to take 4chan's criticism.

And then there's tropic.
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>>8555209
>Kalashnikov
who
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>>8555215
It's another word for AK-47. AK. He's the Lord of Themiscyra. The on-style addict. A dev of many games.
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>>8555220
I like AK, I utterly despise his obsession with on style though, because he usually shoots for TOO on style when the style is dog shit.

Luckily he found that new artist for gem who is basically the best of both worlds. So I like that game.
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>>8555269
Imagine if AK had listened to /stg/ in the first place and did the best of both worlds from the beginning. He'd probably be finished with the game already.
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>>8555373
No. Also peoples obsession with games being finished is the most delusional shit.
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>>8555576
>how dare people expect finished products
Is this what we've been reduced to?
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>>8555615
You stupid fucks who scream about finished games, seem to actively want LESS content so it gets the FINISHED TM tag.

It's also fucking delusional to think that one or 2 man teams with mutliple girls are going to complete a game any time soon.

I'm also perfectly fine with a dev who is just like well I'm just going to keep adding new scenes until I run out of ideas.

But no its gotta be "finished" tm

You know what game is finished and comes off as entirely unfinished? Witch trainer.

What you're doing is abiritary bullshit and as much as I hate lazy devs, I hate people like you just as much.
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>>8555620
Wanting a sense of completion is the exact opposite of arbitrary. Eternal development is defined by arbitrary additions (like personal gloryholes). That's not to say it results in a bad experience. But it's frustrating to watch. You'd think creating a porn game around a story climax (pun intended) would come (pun intended) naturally.

And Witch Trainer is definitely unfinished, no matter what Akabur says. What does the bird do?
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>>8555635
Nearly no one cares about the ending of a porn games story, they want content and happy endings in sex scenes. It is fucking delusional to think other care If people are getting more content, no one cares as long as the content is good and for a character they like.


I can understand getting mad at a dev who slowed down content creation to milk and be lazy, but I think someone like you would whine regardless. Its retarded, I hate this logic. I don't care about a game lasting a well if the dev has content I like to add to a game.

If anything if its a good game and the dev finally being out of ideas is a sad thing because that means the content is over.


You're applying some dumb logic from actual video games, to these fucking porn games. It's truly baffling and insane.
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Threadly reminder that free shitties is god awful, with god awful porn so bad it might as well not be considered a porn game. Because no one ever talks about the porn elements of that game because it fucking sucks.
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>>8555647
>having normal standards for things is insane
>bending over backwards to excuse devs isn't
Is it just me...or is it getting crazier out there?
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>>8555650
>I'm retarded and apply the same standards to things that aren't the same as the other thing I'm applying this standards to
Yes. That is in fact retarded.
>>bending over backwards to excuse devs isn't
Which I never did. You are the reverse version of the asskissers who forgive the devs who are fucking useless. You're just an unreasonable dipshit.

I'm just reminded of a dev who is was like. Yeah I have a core story, that I'm going to get done then just keep adding content to the game for as long as I have ideas.

Someone like you would scream NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP ADDING CONTENT YOU HAVE TO JUST STOP ADDING STUFF PEOPLE WANT TO THE GAME SO I CAN TAG IT ON COMPLETE ON F95ZONE
Fuck you retard
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>>8555650
Not even game studios release finished games these days and you're expecting random porn game creators who don't know what they're doing to do so? Holy shit kek.
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>>8555615
>>8555650
it's so insane that people just accept this perpetual development shit like it's normal. I wouldn't be surprised if they have at least a handful of subscriptions and haven't seen a single worthwile update in months but "they're working so hard! the poor deverinos!!"
friendly reminder that star citizen subscribers exist, there are probably a couple in this thread
>>8555664
anyone playing a game on launch is retarded; more bugs, higher price and often less content. waiting a couple years after the devs have moved on is smart, but how do I wait with porn games if they neverever end? if there is a single update every year with 3 scenes at most?

paypiggers are the worst scum, on par with cucks and sjw's
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>>8555209
I've been browsing 4chan since 2009. It is my go-to. Every place I post I get similar commentary, each site has its own schizos. It doesn't bother me, it is what it is.

>>8555620
I think people are tired of unfinished games that progress slowly. Summertime Saga is a good example. I've managed to code an entire toolset, game, and two hours of polished content faster than their tech update. He either has incompetent developers or he's milking it.

>>8555655
>I'm going to get done then just keep adding content to the game for as long as I have ideas.
That's what I'm doing. Building a platform where I can develop the main game's story. I can't define 1.0 based on content since I don't know how many stories I will eventually have. I define 1.0 by functionality. If all the tools are in place, and the game is playable with its core features then it's done and ready for content.

Personally, I enjoy actively developed games. They are something I can always go back to. And there is a chance to participate in the development by providing the dev with ideas and feedback.
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>>8555373
>best of both worlds
Eh?

>>8555615
IMO, it's not like these games can't be finished, it's just that these games are and can produce content indefinitely. I hate the comparison, but it's like expecting a MMORPG or an ASSFAGGOTS to "end". Personally, I will consider my game "finished" once I complete the main story, but then I can still go forward with more side characters and add more options for threesomes and even orgies.

It just depends on what you consider finished. I tend to enjoy games whether they are "finished" or not, depending on the amount of content, the quality of the writing, how the game plays, etc. If it was about the game considered finished, then I wouldn't enjoy any of these games. Likewise, as the other anon said, there are games considered finished that have no quality and no content, and you can't say they are better than STS, for better or worse.
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>>8555844
>I think people are tired of unfinished games that progress slowly. Summertime Saga is a good example. I've managed to code an entire toolset, game, and two hours of polished content faster than their tech update. He either has incompetent developers or he's milking it.

No the retard I've been arguing with has been using this talking about since the start of this scene. He's entirely unreasonable.


As for summertime saga he's legitimately incompetent. Basically he hired a friend of his to do the coding and the guy is fucking useless. It is one of the few projects where the coder is often a bottle neck instead of the art.

Besides hiring his retarded friend, Cookie is also doing that shit where he wastes time redoing all art in the game for reasons that no one other them himself cares about which also slows things down dramatically.

>That's what I'm doing. Building a platform where I can develop the main game's story. I can't define 1.0 based on content since I don't know how many stories I will eventually have. I define 1.0 by functionality. If all the tools are in place, and the game is playable with its core features then it's done and ready for content.

Ah but you see, the unreasonable retards consider this unacceptable because they can't autistically mark the game as completed on f95zone
>>8555907
>IMO, it's not like these games can't be finished, it's just that these games are and can produce content indefinitely. I hate the comparison, but it's like expecting a MMORPG or an ASSFAGGOTS to "end". Personally, I will consider my game "finished" once I complete the main story, but then I can still go forward with more side characters and add more options for threesomes and even orgies.
>IPersonally, I will consider my game "finished" once I complete the main story, but then I can still go forward with more side characters and add more options for threesomes and even orgies.

NOOOOOOOOOOO MUH COMPLETE TAG MUH FINISHED
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>>8556319
a game with the completed tag can't have the abandoned tag, so i guess that's what the grifter is going for.
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>>8555655
>>8555664
If everyone jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge, would you do that too? Or just show up with signs and cheer them on? We still have twenty years to go at least before the scene actually matures. At the end of the day, the ground floor is going to be full of [COMPLETED] tags. Besides, consumer patience in general is wearing thin with incomplete non-service games, quite obviously beginning to be reflected in sales numbers.

Why someone would defend something that's not in their self-interest is beyond me. Not providing closure is the sign of a shitty person.
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>>8556927
This is a take of a retarded person that lacks the reading comprehension to even understand what he's arguing against.

I hope no game you like ever gets completed.
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>>8556935
>developers not only reserve the right to blue ball you, but I prefer it that way!
Yeah, real compelling argument you got there. Less isn't more. Neither is the promise of more.
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>>8556843
That's if you even care about Fag95.
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>>8557063
Yeah once again you completely lack reading comprehension and don't understand any of my posts. Considering I shit on devs in one of those posts for doing that shit. You are truly a brain dead subhuman.
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>>8556843
I legit don't think dark cookie cares
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>>8557956
>>8558519
didn't he update JUST when it got an abandoned tag?
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>>8558804
That's all for now.
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>>8558632
No, he didn't update for a while after he got the tag
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>>8558809
Should have just released the game on subscribe star only so you could do loli
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>>8558797
The Gems look better now also Amethyst is hot now and I love it.
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>>8559087
That's still loli, though.
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>>8559647
Nah, tits too big.
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So when is shitbars games coming out
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>>8559957
hopefully never
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>Akabur support
...
>SUPPORT AKABUR
!!!
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>>8561495
no
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>>8561495
nah
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>>8558797
>>8558800
>>8558803
>>8558804
>>8558809

hey! those redesign are really good!

has development started again?
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>>8558795
>>8558804
>>8558803
>>8558800
>>8558797
>>8558809
More pearl when
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>>8563122
more loli when
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>>8553800
>I've tried pretty much every function in the game
Pay closer attention to the colors in the weekly summary. You want pink (devotion/obedience increase) over purple (decrease). Increasing fear (yellow) can also help - at high values fear leads to obedience increase due to slave being afraid of punishment. You want fully restrictive rules: spare living, no sexual release (maybe with master), no speech/relationship, chastity/orgasm as punishment/reward (others may have negative effects). Confine slave (reduces health) in a cell block with a warden until it's willing to obey you. Alternatively, use personal attention to heal, which also reduces backsliding.

If you don't care about softening the slave's flaws, use PA to remove them. You can also do the shock collar "odd" trick: the collar makes slaves "odd" which can be removed in the following week for a devotion boost, next week the slave gets "odd" again if still disobedient, repeat. Slaves above -50 devotion can be tossed into a schoolroom and will slowly become more devoted, as will slaves tossed into the clinic. If your character is trained in medicine, slaves get a devotion boost when surgery is used on them - but if you do that while they're still disobedient it will increase their disobedience. This varies by procedure; generally, areola/waist are most spammable (but watch the health). Once they're done with school/clinic assign them to be maids (house servants) or fucktoys; don't let them choose their job while disobedient or devotion will decrease.

There are multiple weekly events that can raise a slave's devotion. Reduce the possibility of them triggering for other slaves by shoving those into various facilities instead of keeping them in the penthouse.
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>>8564167
How can you say Free Cities is a bad game when it inspires a post like this? I thought you people liked things that are unnecessarily complicated
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>>8564435
It's a "bad" game on purpose. Most trainers focus on a small amount of "targets" with specific personalities and routes to develop/change them. In a blogpost, FC dev admitted that there were already games doing that (like the classic Jack-o-Nine-Tails), and he was aiming for something more impersonal/industrial. The downside is that the most effective way to break/convert a slave, ANY slave, is the same in Free Cities. Facilities exist specifically so that multiple slaves can go through the pipeline you set up at the same time, and so that those slaves fade into the background while the weekly events happen to ones you actually care about. It's even referenced in the event where, if you take in a shelter slave as a charity case and then enslave the inspector who checks up on you, the inspector says something like "in a few weeks I'll be just another one of your broken bitches but I'll always hate you."

If you want to play FC as a more "traditional" trainer game, you need to impose limits on yourself. There's a number of unique slaves you can grab, which you could focus all of the game's resources on. Generate a version of someone IRL (or even yourself) before the game starts, then see how you can alter them. Take your randomly generated starting slaves and turn them into fanatical lieutenants. Bankroll a lab break-in, enslave the would-be rival, rescue the hostage, do things to the Smiling Man that will make up for the offense of crossing you. And sell the rest, or retire them, or whatever.

But you have to put up those barriers for yourself. It's difficult to know where to draw the line until you've already crossed it at least once. A lot of people don't appreciate when a game puts them into a position they don't like. At that point, the decision between replaying everything or dropping the thing altogether may not come out in the thing's favor.
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>>8564435
Free cities isn't a fucking porn game. The porn is so bad it might as well not exist. People say its bad because the porn is unfappable garbage.

This has always been the free SHITTIES criticism.

Take your shit game somewhere else
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I haven't played trainer games in forever. Is there any must plays? I've played through Four Elements and Akabur's stuff but haven't really looked into it much further.
Not really looking for anything specific, just need suggestions. Ideally the more complete the game the better but I'm not that picky.
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>>8565669
trainer games went out of fashion a few years ago and anything that you could call a trainer is more or less a "repeat event 10 times" four elements stuff so imo ignore them or look at simulation games. Lab Rats that kinda shit.
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>>8565673
any recommendations on those types of sim games? i have played and loved lab rats so i imagine we have similar likes
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>>8565673
>trainer games went out of fashion a few years ago
>squeak-squeak squeaks squeak out of squeak-squeak a squeak squeaks ago
Could you shut the FUCK up about trainer games "dying" in the thread about trainer games? Rat! And simulation games are worse in every way. They make sex boring. Reductionist bullshit!
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any games where (You) are being trained instead of the trainer?
someone recommended me EraTohoReverse but I'm not autistic enough for that
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>>8565846
He is right, though.
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>>8566147
FeMC? Succum brewery, Star Knightess Aura ( both RPG Maker) and Therapy (HS VN)
MC? Secretary (HTML Text game), Dune: Breeding a Dynasty (weird AI slop text game which only sorta fits the what you're looking for) and like every Empress VN ever, but that's Jap shit.
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>>8553096
One scene off of releasing the pre-patreon test version. Currently running a Halloween costume contest, fans rate the costumes.
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>>8566147
>>8566532
Wrong thread fuck off
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>>8566532
God man, this is the epitome of shit taste.
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>>8566532
thanks, I played most of them except for the Dune game (I'll just wait until it's abandoned) and the VN because that doesn't sound appealing to me
>>8566762
point me in the right direction then wannabe janny
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>>8567029
WEG and probably not this thread that outright has nothing to do with what your requesting you faggot.
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>>8566456
>durr muh culture death hurr
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>>8567029
>>8551833
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>>8567156
Im going to point out that instead of giving that guy some slave trainer recommendations you got butthurt about people stating the obvious. There's your proof.
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>>8568082
This one is winning so far
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>>8567156
>culture death
What...? It's just shitty games where you used to whore the women. It's not the fall of the west.
I'm glad that shit is dead, or, at the very least, the influence of Akabur is not present anymore. If nothing else, no, anon, more games like Akabur's are not being made and instead, everyone wants to make a STS clone, even to this day. Whether you like trainer games or not, you have to admit, this is the case.
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>>8568082
>menses from eating too much pussy is all over the face and chest
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>>8566607
>>8568082
based as hell
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>>8568424
Thanks!

>>8568082
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>>8568082
>>8568793
So when are you actually gonna release the game?
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>>8569079
Working now on wrapping up the patreon test version, then its out to the server to test.
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>>8568793
Last one. I hope everyone has a comfy Halloween, Autumn is my favourite time of the year.
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>>8570501
thats cut
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>>8553096
is she wearing a pepe hood?
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>>8566607
Can't wait to make love to her and have her bear my descendants
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>>8571058
Although I've not even planned for her preg content, I did a preg alt for one of her poses. It's used in some dirty-talking scenes where she teases the player.
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>>8571073
wait not all of them are getting pregnant?
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>>8571243
I want it for all of them but haven't sat down and planned it out for them all. It's a lot of story work. I've only planned it for the 2 elves. Rune is a soul bound to a stone, so she needs a full story to reach the point where you can knock her up.
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Quick "survey" if you will: I am in the process of making my own game and elected to have a resolution of 1920*1080 but realised it might look a little small on some screens. Knowing I created my backgrounds and other assets at twice their intended resolution, shoul I resize my game to bigger resolution?
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>>8553104
where was this character from? I remember seeing her and the rest of the characters when the creator was first showing them off here but i forgot the name
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>>8571513
Honestly if you're already having second thoughts just do it now, DO NOT be like fucking dark cookie who has pent like 3 fucking years FIXING this problem.
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>>8571513
I use 1280 x 720 and draw stuff in 3556 x 2000
Looks fine on most screens

If you make it too big you'll get crazy file sizes and also you won't be able to fit in
>MOBILE
users who need smaller scaled screens
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>>8571522
Hearthside Adventures >>8569125

>>8571513
Mine is done in >4k sizes but I scale it down to 1920x1080. I have a 42-inch 4k monitor and the art looks great at that size.
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>>8571513
I paint generally at around 7k-10k and drop them down to 3840x2160 but for most projects I would always elect 1440p it's becoming the standard resolution across devices. If you're hardcore into future proofing you do 4k but thats years out from mass adoption.
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shifter girls
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>>8571606
I forgot that there was a KND game, but this looks different.
Is this different then the one I'm thinking of
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>>8553099
where can i download this?
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>>8572843
lewdcorner
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>>8573018
Cuck95zpne
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I don't know if this kind of stuff is welcome or discussed here, but I recently discovered Lost Life and I was kind of shocked that I wasn't aware of it already, especially since it seems to have been around for some time.
It made me wonder, are there any other trainers with similar content out there?
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>>8572634
There's also Operation: N.O.V.E.L.
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>>8574258
Lost life is based and its a shame it doesn't have more content
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>>8574420
Operation: N.O.V.E.L is what I was thinking of, butwhat's the name of the game in this picture? >>8571606
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>>8575462
porn WHEN
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>>8576164
Well, thanks for uploading, anon.
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>>8576164
More cunnies mom
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>>8577381
more cunnie
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>>8558804
Pearl basically looks the exact same
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>>8581452
NEEDS CORRECTION
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>>8555844
An "unfinished" game makes money based on people getting onboard with its development. See projects like A House In The Rift. Unfinished but fairly popular, and the longer he can string it along, the more time he has to allow people to come in and pay him.

On the contrary, real, serious content development takes time and people may be creatures of habit, but not too many people will come back and revisit content because two new sentences were added to the prologue. 90% of players will play it from start to finish, once, then only ever revisit for new scenes unless the content is somehow open-ended.

Good luck with that, though. An open-ended weg.
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>>8581679
What you say is true for certain types of games, but mine isn't one of those. The story and content aren't 1.0. 1.0 is just the baseline features I set out to achieve so I could work on the main game's story. People stay with it because the story is progressing, and new content is added (items, achievements, guides, dirty talk scenes). I'm also in a very unique position, I have a main game that is a near feature-complete 3D adventure RPG.
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>>8574389
Akabur still colors and draws by hand so I always give him a pass for being late.
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>>8583151
His story telling and fetishes suck so I give him no pass for being a cuck
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>>8583151
I wasn't talking akabur, but the retard saying "I'll wait 3+ years daddy!!!"
I can tolerate a couple months delay, but saying it's okay to delay by 3 years is why every weg is such a shitshow in neverending development with 1 update a year



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