I think I got tired of OLD.I started using it in 2011, around that time I didn't get as much attention on it but when I did, it led to a relationship.Now, it's just attention seeking, foodie calls, bored females, fat women catfishing and even if I get a date, I'm super tired of them already.Probably because most of the time I will lose interest or I will get ghosted/friendzoned. So I'm completely unmotivated now.My last relationship ended in december of last year and we were together for over a year. It was completely different from the rest for various reasons.Most importantly, we met IRL. I actually cold approached a few women in 2022 when I was living in a bigger city and I got a gf out of it.But now I live in a shithole with no people, feel zero motivation to go to a city to cold approach (there is very little opportunity for it anyways).So I guess the advice I seek is - should I just ditch OLD, actually start going out in a city and just grow a pair once again to do it?How do I motivate myself for it and stop beeing such a negative thinker?
>>31119999I will just add, that I noticed that my Cold Approach stats were much better than my OLD stats. OLD makes mae have to message tens/hundreds of women,in order to get a convos with maybe 10% of them, out of which I get 10% of dates that lead nowhere.Cold approach took me less than a month before I met my now-ex gf. I only approached a few women and DESU all their reactions were positive.The conversations with my ex felt different and I was really keen on dating her, just because we met IRL and not online. I guess I have zero dopamine from meeting women I met online.How do I take this information and use it for my advantage, to motivate myself? The problem I have is that there aren't too many opportunities for cold approach.I only approached women that were on their own and kinda gave me some signals (or not).
No shit, genius.
>>31120017Where do you approach them?
>>31120377Care to elaborate?>>31120387Nowadays - nowhere. Then - public places with some people so that the approached woman would feel safe but not awkward. Not clubs/bars.
>>31120407>Care to elaborate?The game is completely broken. About time you realized.
>>31120423WYM by "the game"? Just online dating or dating in general?
>>31120432Relations between the sexes in general.
>>31120485I knew that years ago. But there are workarounds I know of, based on my experience. Just don't know how to use them, kinda need a word of encouragement and maybe few tips and advice.
>>31120512There are no workarounds. You can get pussy but building relationships is almost impossible a the moment.I advise you to try necrophilia or car exhaust pipes.
>>31119999You fail Now, on seeking, foodie calls, bored females, fat women catfishing There is one option before the gay section test the TY section like link below XD
>>31120766Now in English, please. Retard.>>31120567This board is dead. WTF even is that last sentence and what does it have to do with the topic.Actually I can't get pussy without the relationship, that';s how it was pretty much for me always.I'm looking for actual advice, not gloomer posting.
>>31119999(Checked)My post should be relevant for this thread. >>31120930Any advice?
>>31120949And this>>31120956
>>31120836>not gloomer postingHe's not wrong unfortunately. Well, he is a little wrong. It is not impossible just near impossible. I am an outlier and get around 10-15 matches per app per day and I feel nothing. No matter what they will either be terminally online and annoying, have BPD or straight up narcissism or all three.If you're going to go with cold approaches then you will have better luck but only because people romanticise meeting somebody new in public. So great! Now you have a gf! Too bad she is the exavt same girl you would have met on Tinder except now she is committed to you for all of the wrong reasons - these relationships always last around a year maybe 18 months if you are lucky. So yeah, I guess do what you were doing before and find a cute girl to date for 6-12 months before she gets FOMO
>>31120949>>31120962Do you write or read much literature?
>>31121015I read a bit and would read more if I wasn't addicted to this site, and if I wasn't sexually frustrated half the time. Non-fiction and educational material, mostly.
>>31120836You fail. Now, in seeking, foodie calls, bored females, and fat women catfishing. There's one option before the gay section: test the TY section, like picture below. XD
>>31121021>Non-fiction and educational material, mostly.Okay time for some harsh truths but please take this as tough loveYou are:>5"9 (smedium)>6.5/10 (unremarkable)>Not well readYou can't be taller. You could probably make yourself more attractive but not to the point that you stand-out. You are going to have to go the Neruda route and learn how to become alluring with your words. That's it. Either learn how to wield language or be doomed to a life of being ghosted by fats
>>31121040I understand all that. It's why I'm asking for advice. How to max out my charisma ASAP, besides blindly trying and failing? I don't want to strike out with all my matches due to inexperience and lack of skill. I just want even a bit of sex so I don't have to visit prostitutes and then I'll have an easier time focusing on my work. Long term goal is to move to the Far East and live on normal mode at last.
>>31120949>>31120962Number 1 is curtail something related to her bio.If nothing is written, then compliment her. I’m new to OLD too but I’ve gotten responses when i compliment smiles. Set up a time to take her out asap, within the first 10 messages. If she doesn’t respond, or she stops responding before you seal the deal but doesn’t unmatch, wait a couple days and then write something like “damn…I feel like we are drifting apart.” I’ve used this line 3 times and it has a 100% response rate
>>31119999nice digits dam
>>31121054Bro I just told you read poetry and force yourself to love it. If you want I can give you some recommendations but you literally asking me "How do I become more charismatic?" and the answer to that is "get better with words". What is better than poetry when it comes to words? Nothing. Now get reading instead of wishing on a goddamn star
>>31121064>damn…I feel like we are drifting apart.I would have never imagined that could work. Seems kind of clingy, but I guess it can be taken less seriously. And date advice? Never been on one before and I suck at small talk.
>>31121075Didn't google "Neruda" so I missed your point. Isn't poetry kinda cringe nowadays? Not that I would know.
>>31121054okay, I actually do have a good hack for you >>31121064 reminded meThe very best opening message is their name followed by a few exclamation points. Yes it's retarded which is exactly why it works so well
>>31119999yeah, join the fucking club man...
>>31121088Big if true. I'll make a note of that.
Don't you get tired of doing the monkey dance for women? Surely there's more to life than being women's court jesterI'm 30 already, been with a lot of whores, had a couple of meaningful relationships, and everything feels so tiresome by this point. Meeting new women would feel like such an investment and a waste of time.
>>31120836 small mistakes like misplaced punctuation or prepositions can affect clarity and structure(only for in instead of on seeking)English can feel too simple at times, lacking the depth to express complex ideas, which might be why some people, like certain farmers or presidents, can seem simplistic or narrow-mindedmmm yeah fine, such basic language is considered more retarded than most average world languages, it's better than Chinese but worse than Russian
>>31121082>Isn't poetry kinda cringe nowadays?More than any other art form poetry has the absolute lowest quality control which is why it is so impressive to be competent at it.If you look at Neruda's bio he was SO GOOD with words that looking like an obese gargoyle mattered south of null and he slept with whoever he wanted to.If you aren't keen on being Neruda then be Picasso. Just be impressive at something and then be the best.
>>31121099I'm the guy trying out tinder (not OP) and I've been born tired of the monkey dance. All I want is to move to EZ mode land (the Orient) and I'm just coping until then. Sex in the west is totally not worth the hassle for the average and shorter men, but I fear that completely neglecting my needs will make me bitter in the long run even if I make my dream of escaping to the promised land come true. Is what it is.
>>31121008>If you're going to go with cold approaches then you will have better luck but only because people romanticise meeting somebody new in public. So great! Now you have a gf! Too bad she is the exavt same girl you would have met on Tinder except now she is committed to you for all of the wrong reasons - these relationships always last around a year maybe 18 months if you are lucky.Sounds great tbqh. I get bored with particular people quickly either way because of my tisms and ADHD.>>31121036I still don't understand. What is TY? It's still written so poorly, where are you from?>>31121073Yeah I take them as a sign from God. He keeps showing me many singns recently and I'm not even turbo-Christian or anything.One sign he showed me recently made me stop watching porn/nudes.>>31121093What club?>>31121099Every woman I was in a relationship didn't require me to do too much monkey dancing for her. But getting to find a relationship is tiresome for me already.
>>31121110I'm actually studying (digital) art on my free time and hope to make my money online along with a friend I'm working with. I don't have much else I can hope for right now, so I'm all in or nothing.
>>31121096Here to help!
>>31121076Ya it’s meant to be a joke. Like you two don’t know each other and you’re being melodramatic about it. > date advice?Dates I’ve only had 3 dates so far from OLD. Date 1 was a fast food joint (her suggestion), date sucked. Date 2 was dinner and then a bar after, this went well. Date 3 was with the same girl as date 2 and we went to axe throwing (my suggestion) and bowling (her suggestion). She wasn’t into it and she cancelled what was to be our third date last minute and told me she wasn’t interested when I tried rescheduling. I have another date this Saturday for drinks. Honestly you’ll see advice to go do something “fun” like axe throwing but my experience convinced me to just stick with drinks and dinner vibes.Been ghosted by two different women after dates were on the books too so be careful of that. Shit sucks but what can you do?I’ve also heard >>31121088 works as well, but I’ve never tried it
>>31121129Thanks, guvnah. I have two likes and a match already but it could be just two fatties, bots, or stealthing gay guys. Happened before when I tried out Tinder for a day. Do you suggest buying premium? I'll be able to match with my likes and I think I should have higher "ELO" or whatever too, right?
>>31121100>English can feel too simple at timesEnglish is an awful frankenstein language but it is the most versatile in the same way a piano has the most range. I do get what you mean though, russian and german are quite adept at specificity which can make english feel stifling
>>31121135Are dates even necessary for hook-ups, or is it for relationshits? I'm not interested in the latter. Too solitary and I don't care for monogameme.
>>31121121Well if it works for you then yeah man, cold approach is best. You got this>I still don't understand. What is TY?You know I was doing my best to translate this as well. Here's what I got:>You fail. Now, in seeking, foodie calls, bored females, and fat women catfishing. There's one option before the gay section: test the TY section, like picture below. XD>You have already failed by choosing online dating. Now all because you wanted some booty (foodie) calls you will be subjecting yourself to attention seeking women that are only responding because of boredom or obese women catfishing. This is enough to drive a man towards homosexuality/the gay section but maybe you might have some luck with the TY (probably an acronym for trans people) section like picture below ((picture off to the side) picture is of a bearded lady)
>>31121192Good attempt. I think we'll need to hire pro cryptologists for this case, though.
>>31121151Absolutely no experience there anon, I’m looking for relationships. Sorry I can’t be more useful, but I’m interested in any more experienced anons have advice
>>31121126>I don't have much else I can hope for right now, so I'm all in or nothing.Read Frank O'Hara's collected poems for at least an hour every day and then work on your visual art until you make something impressive. That way you can upload your art to your profile and then have the savoir faire to carry the conversation.Or even better: you will forget about women and focus on your art
>>31121206>Or even better: you will forget about women and focus on your artIdeally, I'll just start making decent enough money to be a digital nomad and geomaxx. Then I can have it both ways and finally enjoy the good life. I should be reading educational material right now, so I'm off. Can't procrastinate every day.
>>31121138>Do you suggest buying premium?Absolutely fucking not! You don't need it. If you pay for premium then it's over.>I should have higher "ELO" This will ruin your mind man. I had a buddy of mine go down the algorithm route and that will drive you insane. Keep it simple! What you shoukd be doing is honing a skill that has existed since the dawn of time, and that is called "playing it cool".It sounds like a useless platitude so I will do my best to explain it. Imagine you have been lost in the woods for three days. No food, no water. Only harsh wilderness. But all of a sudden: a highway! Civilisation! A restaurant!But...you play it cool. You don't burst in, you stride. You are dignified and you use your knife and fork. Just because you are starving it doesn't mean that anybody else has to know. All of a sudden people are looking at you and thinking "Wow! Look how comfortable he is! He must eat at good restaurants every day!" The chef comes out and the meal is on the house. You are collected and controlled and because of this you never have to feel starvation again.Or put more briefly, be a cat not a dog.
>>31121192Thanks man, now it kinda makes sense. >TYMaybe it stands for "too young" (as google is telling me), does he imply that John Lennon was going for underage girls? IDK about the beatles.Either way the guy's a fucking weirdo, I have never seen someone be this bad at English. And obviously his troll is one of the dumbest too.
>>31121138Also if you want your "ELO" to go up don't swipe right on any woman you wouldn't want to get pregnant. Simple. If every man did this then things would not be as bad as they are.
>>31121247And OBVIOUSLY I wouldn't try it for multiple OBVIOUS reasons. The gay section sounds bad too. The Trans is more alluring although I'd rather KMS before that too.
>>31121121>But getting to find a relationship is tiresome for me already.I know, this what I meant. In online dating it's specially tiresome, because the ratio is 10 men to each women>>31121114>Sex in the west is totally not worth the hassle for the average and shorter men, but I fear that completely neglecting my needs will make me bitter in the long run even if I make my dream of escaping to the promised land come true. Is what it is.More than sex, it's relationships.The environment is just too hostile for us. Institutionally most systems punish men for being men, so there's too much risk and not enough incentives. One wrong move and you've lost half of all your shit and you've had your children taken away from you. Or even worse, you could get falsely accused of something.
>>31121243I'm already at this point because I've been through a lot of prostitutes, and I do try to imitate cats unironically. They're very elegant and independent creatures. It's hard not to admire them. Helps that I'm already a small, nimble and introverted fellow, so I already have the cat's spirit. Been told that a number of times already, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't take it as a compliment. Pretended not to care, of course. Only emotions I ever show are laughter and irritation.>>31121248I tend to not swipe right on girls clearly too attractive and I still have standards so uglies and fatties are denied. There's also a very limited number of likes I can dish out every day thanks to free version limit. I don't see why your point in not getting premium, though, but I'll take your word for it and not pay it for the first six months or so.
>>31121262I've stopped believing in monogameme, anyway. It's clear as day that people are serially monogamous at best, and are only ready to settle down (women in particular) when they sense that their youth is escaping them and the biological clock starts ticking too loudly. It's all a joke. I just want to be loaded and free. Bachelor life for me.
>>31121263>Only emotions I ever show are laughter and irritation.That's being a reptile not a cat. I will rephrase this: How does a cat get your attention? How does a cat sell itself? Cats are insouscient, sure, but they are also direct. If a cat wants you to know that they are upset or that they love you you will know right away.>There's also a very limited number of likes I can dish out every day thanks to free version limit.Yeah, you shouldn't even be hitting the end of this ideally.>I tend to not swipe right on girls clearly too attractiveStop doing this! ONLY swipe on the hottest girls. ONLY swipe on women "out of your league"I will repeat myself once and then it's up to you whether you want your life to be better or not>FRANK O'HARA COLLECTED POEMS>WORK ON YOUR ART>DON'T SWIPE ON WOMEN THAT YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO GET PREGNANTCapiché? Yes I know you don't want a relationship or children but if you got a supermodel pregnant then that wouldn't be the worst now would it? So either listen to me exactly [positive change] or only do some of what I say and pretend you followed my advice [moderate change] or do nothing [No change]. Your choice. Have a good day!
>>31121313>That's being a reptile not a cat.Not much of a difference, really. Both hiss and cats got reptile eyes.>Yeah, you shouldn't even be hitting the end of this ideally.It took me a few minutes to reach the limit.>Stop doing this! ONLY swipe on the hottest girls. ONLY swipe on women "out of your league"I wonder how you rationalize this. What are the chances of them actually putting out for me? I did attract girls way out of my league before IRL, but OLD should make it much more difficult, right?And yeah, I'll screenshot your most important posts. I'm a learning type of man.
>>31121333If you really want results then consider this bootcamp and not a lecture. I am giving you pearls man - don't be a swine!
>>31119999Posts like this make me think that dating apps are an addiction and people just don't have the wherewithal the realize they are trapped in a behavioral sink.
>>31121354Gotcha. Thank you, good teacher. With any luck, I'll make you proud. Cheers!
>>31121333>I wonder how you rationalize this. What are the chances of them actually putting out for me? I did attract girls way out of my league before IRL, but OLD should make it much more difficult, right?The chances are high! Because most men think like you do and swipe left on a girl that is "too hot". So then the hot girls get less swipes, I match with them because I took the risk (some risk!) and then everyone is like "Duuuurrrr how did you do that?" Also true. They do both hiss.
>>31121365They are, and you are right. But, like most of us here, sometimes it's been our only option.
>>31121371You got this man! You are a goddamn gift to this earth and you should be angry, no, outraged, that you ever let yourself forget that. Now get out there and become the person that you always were!
>>31121372I figured this would be the explanation, but I'm sure there's plenty of Chads even on OLD who aren't too shy to deal with the hotties. I'll be swiping right on them either way, now.
>>31121381So long, partner!
Okay, now that the faggot Tinder user (who attached himself to my thread that is anti-OLD, but only because it had nice digits) is gone, can we continue?Can I get some advice on my OP problem? Some encouragment?
>>31121744Why not do the cold approach city plan and keep OLD as a supplement?
>>31121784Okay sure, but IDK about the CA part. IDK where to start. I don't live in a city and don't have as much time as I had then.
>>31121884Maybe if you give us a geographic overview of what is withing walking or short-driving distance and we can go from there
i'm tired of this shit too. I don't know, man. Ex just left me. I turn 30 in 6 months. no luck on this shitty app. I let myself go a hair but i swipe on everyone, not even a fucking bite. I'm really, truly, just exhausted.
>>31122389You have to build yourself up to prep. Lose the weight. Then take good pictures of yourself. If your ex just left you, then you should use the time to heal and build yourself up to the best version of yourself
>>31122421I don't think I'm some fat cunt or anything. Bit skinnyfat I'd say for sure, but I don't think 168lbs at 5'10 is grossly awful. I have a nice jawline, decent skin, decent hair for a guy at 30 I think. Interesting hobbies, maybe a cringy bio...I wasn't expecting to be swiping 10/10 cuties everyday and getting matches and my dick sucked, but it's pretty barren. Even average girls barely want me. Few fatties here and there. Then i try and cultivate a nice little chat, goes nowhere. I mean I get it -- I have room to improve, and I'll improve or die. but still, is this what awaits me even if I'm "better?" I've really not dated much for the last 5 years because I had some other stuff going on, and here we are.
>>31122473and I guess part of me is now emotionally bothered that I'll never find someone I really jive with now at this age. got a bit of an incel mindset about it too because -- oh boy, 30+ year old women who did nothing but sleep around for years and cultivate a deadend career now want me? golly gee! I know not everyone is like that, and I know it's a bad mindset, and I never would ever judge anyone just on that alone, but it just feels so much more fucking stressful to exist.
>>31122016As in places of interest or what? Well, I would have to drive or take a train to reach anything. Either a 100K+ city in a 30 minute drive or 700K+ city, 1 hour drive.Both would give me cafes (which to me aren't good places for cold approach), parks, boulevards, malls, town squares, etc.But isn't it weird and needy to go to such places withing to meet a woman there? I kinda need a word of encouragment.>>31122389Similar situation here anon. Almost exact. Maybe it will give you more hope that when I met my ex, I cold approached her.And OLD sucks for me, however Cold Approach gave me a gf after less than a month of going out. And she was my 6th or 7th attempt.The other ones were positively received as well, I also got a friend from one (it wasn't even a cold approach, just a funny thing that happened IRL).She was a nice woman to talk too but she later hated me for something as well, which is basically story of my life when it comes to friends (m/f) or girlfriends.I destroy whatever I touch. However, you may do better than me if you don't have autism and other mental illnesses like I do.>>31122473Your BMI looks normal. If your bf% is high, just work out a little bit to lose it and you may gain weight but you will look leaner (muscles are heavier).I see many unkept, greasy fatasses with cute women by their side so it shouldn't be your problem.>>31122484>and I guess part of me is now emotionally bothered that I'll never find someone I really jive with now at this age.I have this feeling too anon. But you can always try.
>>31122473You have similar stats to me (anon you are replying to). How are your photos? Do you follow the standard template> full face> full bodyAs the first two? Do you have pictures of you engaged in the hobby?
>>31120017write exactly what have you said, write out multiple 10+ minute long conversations where you get to know the girl and she gets to know youif you cannot do it, you have never cold approached anyone and are just another larping faggot whose bad at creative writing
>>31122801I could give you my CA story of meeting my ex gf. However I'm sleepy AF because it's late and my meds are working.But if the thread is alive tomorrow, I'll post it I swear.
All this strategizing is pointless because after two days the app hides your profile unless you pay for boosts.
>>31122801>write exactly what have you said, write out multiple 10+ minute long conversations where you get to know the girl and she gets to know youPure autism. Nobody audio records their own conversations with first dates, and it's an unreasonable expectation to think that anyone's so good at memorizing conversations that they could produce verbatim transcriptions of even ONE minute of conversation, let alone 10. Therefore, why on earth would you think his ability to do that or not even proves anything?
>>31123720Pure autism. Every human being that ever speaks can then recount these conversations with ease. We're not even talking about dates, just the initial part of harassing strangers into getting these dates. Every human being can spend hours recounting past conversations and 10 minutes are nothing to them. The most basic way a human being conveys past events is by he said she said I said formula, which everyone applies to all stories except for incels lying about meeting people outside of school since that cannot be done so there is no conversations there.Therefore you've just proven you're as autistic as the 40 yo virgin from reddit that you worship and cannot engage in any discussion outside of copy pasting reddit comments with no depth or real life application.
>>31122801I can't write EXACTLY what I said almost 2 years ago, let alone during a cold approach, where you forget what you said because of adrenaline but I'll give you my story:>Be me>Summer, it's super hot so I go out of my apt which doesn't have AC>Go near a canal, on a promenade>There's a girl sitting alone, on her phone on one of the benches>Sit about 3 benches away from her>I want to approach her, I look at her multiple times and notice her looking a few times too>About an hour passes and she starts leaving>Now or never, I grow a pair, get up and stop her shortly >"Hey there, sorry, can I stop you for a minute?">She stops>"Hi, I'm anon, we were sitting there and I saw you and wanted to say hi! Do you have 5 minutes to spare?">"Yeah sure">"Are you waiting for someone or just walking around?">"No, I'm on my own right now">"Okay, are you on vacations or do you have a break from your job?">"No I came here to see the doctors">"Are you from here?">"No, I live about 200 miles away">I was kinda resigned here, I thought she was bullshitting with the 200 miles to make me go away>"Ooooh okay, that's really far away, well sorry, I'll be honest, I totally wanted to do a pick up on you but if that's the case...">She interupts me "Nooo, that's okay">I take it as a "Go on, continue">So I continued and past that I don't really remember it too well, but basically I asked her for her age, told her mine, told her why I'm here, she tells me she noticed me on the bench and wanted me to approach her, she tells me she has to go to the mall and has a train in about 2 hours, we go for a walk towards the mall, we get there, I tell her to buy herself a bubble tea with specific flavors and ask her if she wants to meet again for a bb tea together. She says yes, we exchange contact and that's how it started.Basically she was giving me close to zero signals but still wanted me to approach her. The pick up was lame but she was open to it so it doesn't matter.
In present day basedciety, young women especially don't have hobbies that involve leaving the house anymore, so unless you're in a position to meet them in class, at work, or on public transport to or from class or work, your literal only chance is the apps (which, as you've already concluded are a meme on top of jewed beyond hope).It's over, but I invite anybody to try and convince me otherwise.
>>31121375That's just rationalizing your addiction it with a side of learned helpless.
>>31126212Well the fact that cold approach random pickup worked for me.
>>31126271Where and when did you find single women to cold approach random pickup?
>>31126212Good post
>>31119999Idk. I like it. I've only really used OLD since I was 18, 11 years ago, I've had 4 or 5 serious gfs, and plenty of shorter flings. IRL I've met like... 3 women. I'm not Chad or anything, it's just a numbers game and you get more numbers online, I don't see the big struggle everyone seems to have. Just take good pics, have a good bio, and ask girls out asap and it's like irl dating from that point onI have no clue how that's harder than like, approaching women irl while they're doing shit and defensive and uninterested and more likely to say no
>>31126285Read >>31126168That's my post and I'm OP.>>31126377Well my Cold Approach stats would say otherwise. Have you ever cold approached? I got 1 friendship, 1 relationship out of 7-8 tries.It's like 8 swipes right, 2 matches, 1 LTR, 1 friendship. And the friendship one wasn't even a CA, more likea funny random event that I commented on, which I wouldn't do if I wasn't on a roll THANKS TO cold approach prior to it.
>>31126483Those were all trannies.
>>31126508Well I had sex with my ex multiple times and I didn't see a dick there so you're wrong.
>>31126518Fake news, it was dark or you were drunk.Women without penises don't exist and are a racist trope/canard.
>>31126168>notice her looking a few times tooThat's the signal... What do you mean she was giving you zero signals? Do you need her to carry a sign saying>Please come talk to me I want to talk to you please please please
>>31126549Looking isn't always a sign. I sometimes look at a guy and I'm 100% hetero. I just like people observing.
>>31126553If it's multiple glances and you catch her looking at you then yes, it's a pretty good sign she's at least not going to be hostile if you talk to her.
>>31126557there is absolutely no way that someone looking at you a few times is a signI literally stare at people and look at them multiple times for the most random reasons and plenty of women look at me and we make eye contact, its nbd, and im not that good looking for how frequent it happensit CAN be a sign, alongside other stuff, but on its own? no fucking way
>>31120017>Cold approach took me less than a month before I met my now-ex gf. I only approached a few women and DESU all their reactions were positive.your age and the age of girls you approach?
>>3112684437 and 18-24
>>31126844OP here. I'm in my early 30s. I'm not approaching anyone right now. That's why I made this thread to get some tips/encouragment. I don't have energy to do that (because of depression) and don't live in a city.But I would aim for 20-28 YO women so I know the brackets are kinda wide. I aimed for the same age back then. I only know that my EX was 20 when we met so I was fine with that (although I told her she looked 24 then lol).And one girl was below 20, (but she looked much older when I talked to her as well) so we became friends either way, I was looking for that too and with her it wasn't a pick up per-se, we just had a funny interaction.She had depression and was taking meds so we had something to talk about. But she hated me later for something so i fucked up. The rest were about 20+. All positive reactions I would say.
>>31126966So yeah, 8 interactions out of which I got 1 friend and 1 LTR gf are great stats. Imagine swiping right on Tinder 8 times to get a gf. Not happening.Actually half of the approaches would have gone better if I didn't fuck up, stumble on my words and basically say 'sorry I have to go' so that was on me.But I fucked up everythign as time went on, typical for me. My autism and depression are destroying everything I have in my life.Well I geuss there is still some hope for me since it worked then, it should work now.
>>31127005But my main point is that - actually being open and opening your mouth to say something to people will probably lead you guys somewhere. Sitting on your ass or just doing things for the sake of doing them like your work/hobbies will probably not give you anything.
>>31119999Online dating makes me want to die. Anytime I feel any confidence in myself I get back on Tinder and then get maybe like 2-3 matches a week and want to kill myself.
>>31126253You're not a licensed psychologist.
>>31125285>Every human being that ever speaks can then recount these conversations with easeWrong. Most people can give you an inexact summary of a past conversation, but that's not what you're asking for. you're asking for him to>write EXACTLY what have you saidand not just in one short conversation, but>write out multiple 10+ minute long conversations This is an unreasonable standard to hold anyone to and you should stop asking for this, because no one is going to be able to meet it.
>>31127639>Wrong. Most people can give you an inexact summary of a past conversation, but that's not what you're asking for. you're asking for him toWrong. Every person can give summaries and examples of things they believe can occur. The fact he cannot do it means he understands it cannot ever be done. It's unreasonable to be unable to live up to the bare minimum standard of human social skill and no one can ever meet it exclusivly in this one instance. If I asked to write multiple 10 minute long conversations with a doctor, everyone could do it on the spot. Same with people in school. The reason why no human being has ever been able to write such conversation outside of schools/friends is because it is biologically impossible for people to form relationships outside of schools/friends and it is retarded and autistic to think otherwise. Nobody in human history has had conversation like it so no human was ever even able to imagine one. Collective human inability to write one proves it cannot be done. Every book, every movie, every messege and every post on the internet is a proof that there never has been a way to form a relationship outside of schools or mutuals, you will never find a conversation in this one specific instance and it's always first go to form of speech when discussing every other event that occurs.
>>31127679Pure autism. Ive seen you here a couple of times and you say the same bullshit every time.
>>31127707because people like you always write the same shit every time you can always get debunked the same way every timeyou're a creature of pure autism and repetition unable to think for yourself to break out of the reddit brainwashing you subjugated youself to you will never be able to imagine a conversation but will still come here to shit up threads lying about them because your beloved website taught you to do it you are a retarded autist too autistic to even see how much of a retarded sperg you are to every conscious person, you cannot disagree with me just copy paste the same copes from reddit
>>31127777>Nice quadsNah senpai you're retarded.Thanks for giving me perspective and realize I'm not so fucked, good luck with life or whatever.
>>31119999>>31120017Why tf do you say "OLD"? Sounds really fucking lame. Is this a new glowie tactic of negative auto-suggestions?
>>31127970No, it just saves more time instead of typing "Online Dating".
>>31128045Why not "OD"?
>>31128064Because it's more common to use that for "overdose".
>>31128045Online is only one word.>No, it's actually 2 words, as in on lineI don't care. It still sounds dumb
>>31128067So what? OLD is loterally the word old but capitalized, yet you use it freely
>>31128081Because when it's used in that context and it's capitalized, it's not the word "old" anymore.
>>31128098But it still sounds like it, ornwhat do you say it as "O eL Dee"?
>>31128067You're gay or female-brained if you don't understand that "OLD" is a bad acronym.
>>31128106If I would pronounce the acronym, then yes, obviously, it's Oh eL Dee. But I say online dating like that. It's just shorter to type OLD.>>31128116Says the person who can not grasp the reality that someone else doesn't have the same opinion as them. Literally female/child brain.
>>31128131>It's just shorter to type OLDI still don't like it, but you do you
>>31128131You're dumb, dude. No taste
>>31127679>Every person can give summaries and examples of things they believe can occur.This is you moving the goalposts. "summaries and examples" are not what you requested, which was>write EXACTLY what have you saidSo which is it, are you demanding an EXACT recounting of what was said, or do "summaries and examples of things" like >>31126168 suffice?
