>>31210019
Probably

>>31210019
Yes, infinitely easier

easier to get your foot in the door maybe. but keeping someone attracted long term without any other skills or attributes? no chance.

>>31210019
Definitely.

>>31210019
>go out with your gf/wife
>she sees this tall hot Chad
>she becomes inattentive and spacey because thinking about the hottest man she's ever seen in her life
>this simultaneously happens to every woman who catches him in their line of sight
it was over before it began

>>31210234
>sit and sulk while on date and give him death stares after he walks in
>gf/wife asks what's wrong
>"nothing", you mutter under your breath
>let the night be ruined due to your passive aggressive nature

OR

>point out tall dude first and comment "wow, he's really tall"
>gf/wife looks and agrees
>go back to having normal date

you have the ability to choose which approach you want.

>>31210283
damn that's true though innit

>>31210283
>wow, he's really tall
>GF sees what you're trying to do and gets the ick, dumps you

>>31210234
>>31210283
>>31210323
>you are now free
>you go over to the tallest man you've ever seen and immediately start making out

>>31210323
never in my life over dozens of first dates and women have they ever gotten mad or upset that i was able to point out that i could see how a particular man was attractive to women. if anything, it shows social awareness. and get this: if you find the right chick and do this exercise, then they'll start pointing out hot women to you. this is how you get threesomes. try harder.

>>31210019
Yes, not as much as 4chan incels want you to believe though.

Studies show time and time again that height correlates weakly with reproductive success.

The best height to be is 6'1 as a man, you're more likely to:
-have at least one child
-Be married
-have sex more often

at 6'1, and it slowly decreases on both ends the further away it gets.

>>31210019
At risk of getting pwned by anons insisting i can fuck anything I want:
I’m a tall woman, very tall, and I hate height as it acts as a negative factor in relationships for me. Very few of the men I crush on are open to a taller woman. Anyways, I want to say that height in men is… ok. It’s conventionally attractive, so it might help with the guy’s weird sexual conquest and his sluttery, but it definitely doesn’t change relationships. You cannot form a relationship because someone is tall. That is also not the reason someone is in love. So dating for love - No. Whoring around - Maybe

>>31210019
Right, they're totally looking at him like that just because he's tall and not because he looks like a fucking supermodel and has his shirt half unbuttoned
>>31210373
I'm 6'1", 6'2" in shoes, and going on month 5 of a dry spell since a breakup. Where's my sex?

>>31210389
i've got the hots for taller women, and i get approached by attractive tall women almost every time i go to the bar, but i'm stupid. help

>>31210479
if you're attracted to tall women you are fetishizing them. give it up. the correct way to approach a tall woman is to pretend you don't even see the difference and just stare straight ahead while talking to her. at least that's what this tall femanon would have you think.

>>31210495
NTA but what if straight ahead is directly into her breasts? I hope this is acceptable.

>>31210509
yes, but you can't be attracted to her breasts either or you're fetishizing them.

>>31210283
So reddit a little orange antenna grew in my head reading this

>>31210520
>THIS WEBSITE IS FOR ONLY PEOPLE I AGREE WITH

what you sound like right now

>>31210234
my girl feels like this whenever we see a short hot big titty girl
>she starts spacing out thinking about the hottest girl she's ever seen in her life
>"you'll never leave me for her right? i wish i was that short" she says

>>31210389
This

Maybe he will fuck all the girls while he is young, but after they do it enough and get it out of their system, they will be ready to love you in their 30s. We're all gonna make it, manletbros!

>>31210528
My man your solution to your girl cheking out other dude is checking him out first, that's hardly an opinion, it's some very pathetic cope lmao

>>31210495
i think talking is the problem, if they are approaching me then i just need to let it bloom, let her steer the ship because she sees me as a catch already and i can only mess things up by talking.

>>31210552
What exactly am i coping over? Am I lamenting to her that I'm not as hot as he is? No, I don't really care!

>>31210019
Tall doesn't override being unattractive or being a sperg.

>>31210586
HAHAHAHA ok bro let's leave it at that

>>31210610
No, flesh out your dumb idea. I want to fully hear your insecure thought process. It's entertaining af.

I am 6'4 with good proportions and still no luck. I can see the disappointment appear on women's faces hit them like a truck when I open my mouth

>>31210019
Not much after 5'11 - 6ft
The guy in the video has a good face, height and frame

I feel like a great voice also makes dating easier

>>31210371
>mad or upset
How would you know what they were thinking

>awareness
Why do you need to show that you have awareness? She doesn't know that already?

>>31210715
>How would you know what they were thinking

Obvious context clues like scrunched up faces. Women have terrible poker faces.

>Why do you need to show that you have awareness? She doesn't know that already?

It just reaffirms that you do and that you're not too insecure to point it out.

>>31210741
Idk, seems like jestermaxxing to me, but you do you

>>31210752
and i think sitting and sulking while on a date just because some stranger chad walked in through the door that your date probably didn't even notice demonstrates a scarcity based mindset instead of an abundance one, but i'm sure you're successful with the ladies yourself, anon.

>>31210771
>probably didn't even notice
Then why say anything? Seems insecure to me buddy

>>31210771
>sulking
You're the one who made it either/or

>>31210810
Oh, man. You're trying to do the gotcha game, aren't you? What I mean by probably didn't even notice is that she didn't instantly get wet and want to end your date to go fuck him immediately. I'm sure your insistence on arguing over semantics and inability to perceive nuance goes over well with your friends.

>>31210836
Projection, obviously she doesn't, but why do you feel the need to say anything? Just answer the question

>>31210741
>It just reaffirms that you do and that you're not too insecure to point it out.
Why reaffirm? Why show that you're not insecure? The only reason I see doing it is to try to make a joke or an observation that leads to further conversation. You seem to do it every time it happens, like you have OCD or something

>>31210019
That dude's a top-tier mogger. Wow, look at all the girls checking him out. I would say it probably makes things easier yeah. A tall dude like him with an average face will have a way easier time than an average height dude with an average face. There are copes to help though.

>>31210890
I don't necessarily feel the need. But if like someone famous walks through the door and literally everyone turns their heads to stare at them, I'm probably gonna say something like "oh hey it's (so and so)" to acknowledge that I also saw the same thing and then go back to whatever it was I was doing.

>>31210907
>The only reason I see doing it is to try to make a joke or an observation that leads to further conversation.

Hey, you figured it out on your own. Nice job!

>You seem to do it every time it happens

false

>>31210930
>You figured it out on your own. Nice job!
Cope, you do it out of insecurity

>false
Cope

>>31210019
women are desperate. if you're average you'll be fine. and you don't want hot women, they're high maintenance, they don't want anyone they just want money and attention, don't put yourself in a hole, marry an ugly woman.

>>31210946
>Cope, you do it out of insecurity

Here, I'll take a page out of your playbook:

>How would you know what they were thinking

I've explained to you multiple times why it's a better approach than what you suggested but you're still confident you know exactly what my motives are.

>>31210948
this man knows where its at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ZJiBHh-Yw

>>31210371
>if you find the right chick and do this exercise
You do it intentionally as a game because you're trying to make yourself feel less insecure, even if you don't feel insecure. It's an exercise for you, but the root cause is insecurity. I have won the argument and there is no further need for discussion. Do not reply to this message

>>31210971
Yes, you win. I concede. I'm gonna go drinking with friends now so you can find another pointless argument to win.

>>31210979
Be sure to point out all the tall handsome men in the room so that you reaffirm you're not a closet homo

>>31210994
>declares himself winner of semantic argument
>makes another tally mark in notepad under "arguments won" column
>smugly says to self "i got another one! i sure showed him!"
>has the gall to accuse other anons of being redditors that collects fake internet points when he secretly wishes he had collected them all

Maybe you can trade your "arguments won" points for a date someday.

>>31210415
IDK, where's your dating profile? Either you don't have one or it's probably a blunder-fest.

>>31211099
I have Tinder and Bumble, you're probably right though about it being shit.
Most of my best pictures from the last 8 years have my ex in them, and that was when I was still quite chubby. I've lost some weight (down to about 228 from 250) but I still have a long way to go

Any recommendations for types of pics and angles, etc?

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>>31211251
pic related, most of good pics is a filtration process. You want a process that generates a lot of candidate photos in different contexts, which you then narrow down based on feedback. Besides some very high level stuff like
>no selfies
it's hard to know where you look better or worse in photos without measuring it.

>>31211279
Thanks dude

>>31211043
I was joking but I won the argument suck it dork

>>31211279
>short as fuck and 7/10 at best
chad massively underselling himself as usual

>>31210019
All the other men there should've beat the shit out of him

>>31210019
That's been empirically demonstrated, yes.

Face >>> Personality > Height

>>31210594
This

>>31210019
No. 6'3" and height hasn't been a factor in any woman being attracted to me, and I'm certainly at least average in every other category.

>>31210389
>might help with the guy’s weird sexual conquest and his sluttery
This of course, is the most important thing for men and what we all seethe at.

>>31210019
I see a dude checking him out with the most curiosity kek

>>31210019
Yes. Remember women are just as simplistic as men, there’s just more pressure for them to hide it. A tall guy is like a woman with huge tits.

>>31210019
It makes it a lot easier to get women that will judge you based on your height and not your virtues.

>>31212772
>A tall guy is like a woman with huge tits.
Ah, shit. It makes perfect sense now. So I'm about a D cup in terms of height; acceptable, even preferred, but nowhere near the titanic titties of larger cups.

>>31210019
Where is that place

>>31210019
Dates yes. Being tall by itself won't make you charming or rich tho.

>>31210520
yep
>>31210528
unironically.

>>31210019
Dating, professional success, status, respect by your peers. If you're living in the West, it's life on tutorial mode.

>>31210019
pretty sure its his face more than his length, he looks like a lanklet

(i'm 195cm/6'5ft too and never have girls look at me like that)

>>31210019
No never had a gf been trying since I was 13 I’m 6’6. Women near my height choose short men.

>>31210373
>reproductive success
is not dating

>>31210389
>Whoring around - Maybe
Gotcha

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>>31210019
>Does tall height for men really make dating easier?
Yes. You already know that being attractive makes dating easier. This is not startling knowledge to anyone.

The real problem is people pin all of the problems on not being tall or attractive or XYZ and then use that fact to rationalize all their bad decisions. i.e. "oh I'm not tall? guess there's no point in wiping my own ass then"

7'2 dude here. All women want these days is 4'7 dwarfs.

No, of course it doesn't. You start losing rapidly in the looks department once you are taller than average.

>>31210371
>this is how you get threesomes
Degenerate. Take the mono pill.

>>31215984
>mono
Serial monogameme, you mean. We're human, which is a mammal species. Mammals are polygamous and promiscuous, hence why half the men are jerking off and whining about Chad and Tyrone. Marriage and monogameme is history for men without a cuckold fetish.

>>31210019
>shirt open to his belly button
slutty whore

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>>31211509
nta but being chad isn't hard. you autists spend thousands of hours optimizing your builds in video games, you pretty much just need to do that but in real life because being chadlike is just being an autist about your real life build
>optimize low hanging fruit life stats under your control
get fit, do interesting shit, get wealthy. none are that hard if you're intentionally trying to optimize. incels hyperfixate on physical attraction but honestly if you're just trying to smash the reason she's fucking you doesn't matter, they all moan the same. plus, if you can convince a woman to fuck you for a 23 dollar plate of chicken carbonara pasta and the abstract idea that you've got cash, congrats, you're basically getting the best value on legal prostitution that money has to offer.
>optimize a small set of photographs
you show off your optimized life stats as compellingly as possible. he's retarded about the college part but dead right about the testing part, pay for photo a/b testing. you retards will pay 20 a month for dating app subscriptions to try to boost matches but won't spend 10 bucks, once, to ask a candidate sample of women "which photo makes me look the most fuckable?"
>optimize how you talk and act on dates
your goal is to get good at taking a woman from "based on your pictures, we might fuck" to "we are making out and are probably or definitely gonna fuck"
>optimize being good at sex
so she gets addicted to your cock and refers you to her friends
>optimize running the above.
you want to either get faster at cycling through women, or keeping many such women in your life so you're never without someone to fuck. it's not hard, and every time you advance a step, you typically have mastered the previous steps so once you've got things going it's basically an infinite waterfall of sex. then incels online call you chad despite the fact that you're basically the same ugly incel retard you used to be, except now women won't leave you alone

>>31217168
I'll give you a (You) for a high quality post, but
>get wealthy
>not hard
Man... if we were wealthy, we wouldn't be incels. Only poor men and ugly women face difficulties in this world.

>>31217244
yeah it's unironically not hard, just time consuming. average and peak salaries across all fields are very public info online, everyone's shit's been leaked and shared for years, you can intentionally choose "the ones that pay better" and they unironically don't often even take longer to learn than the cheap-out retard subjects. sending personal introductions and requests to chat with industry figures cost nothing for the asking and will teach you a fuckton, and most people are so dispassionately nonparticipatory that literally anyone putting in any level of passion to get somewhere in a field is very quickly going to get snapped up by someone, just actively giving a shit in most fields makes you a star.

textbooks are free to pirate (or check out at the library if you're square), and the internet is one of the best teaching resources ever invented. college as a process is very slow at educating people because it insists on teaching off topic subjects and accomodating for the retards taking it as a four year "pre-life" vacation, you can basically learn all the useful parts of any degree in about a year and a half of "2 hours a night of reading and doing exercises". and lets be real, most of you were gonna spend half those 2 hours gooning and watching reruns of cartoons from the 90s anyways, so it's not like it's a huge ask. most of getting rich is just convincing yourself
>yeah, I can just do all that shit
then actually just doing it.

Yeah we all have seen that data from dating apps, it's brutal if you aren't tall

>>31217375
I'm working on something already and most of my issues are procrastination and sexual frustration. I'm getting my shit in order now and I've learned that masturbating (no porn) as often as needed is necessary to clear the mind and stay productive. I'm hoping this is the year me and my friend (partner in crime) are gonna make it. Wish me luck, hombrero.

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>>31217485
WAGMI anon

>>31210520
kek

>>31210019
Anatomically, on average yes. But there are SO MANY outliers to that stat. In fact it is common enough that several studies by psychologists and magazines found shorter guys and taller (like 5'5" guys and 6' gals) were dating, getting happily married, etc... so yeah it makes it easier, but don't fret, cuz the average is still slightly skewed towards average height (despite what jerks and horrible people will tell you).

>>31217416
By "data" you mean "twitter screenshot collages".

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>>31210373
>Studies show time and time again that height correlates weakly with reproductive success.
Actually, men of average height have the most reproductive success.

What you need to consider is: height is correlated with income. If you control for income, you find that height does not positively predict reproductive success past a certain point. These results are well replicated.

What is possible is that on dating apps, taller men are more likely to get dates, because a bigger number seems more appealing - but whether these translate into relationships, marriage, having children, etc. is not backed by data.

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>>31222510
The real height blackpill applies to women.

>>31210019
I'm 6'5" and no girl has ever even looked at me so I'm not convinced

>>31222513
>just straight up more than men of all heights..
ahh yes, so blackpilling...

>>31222510
>What you need to consider is: height is correlated with income
That's not true either.

>>31222516
Same I’m 6’6 never had luck

Being tall won't help you at all if you're an autist, as soon as you open your mouth and talking about bionicles then you're fucked.

>>31222569
>For both men and women, the relationship is striking: a one-inch increase in height is associated on average with a 1.4 percent to 2.9 percent increase in weekly earnings, and a 1.0 percent to 2.3 percent increase in average hourly earnings.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2709415/

>>31222590
They look uninterested before I speak

>>31222598
At a quick glance, that article seems to be cherrypicking and anecdotes.

Yes

>>31222516
same for me

im 6'5

i think it has everything to do with face

>>31222810
Lookup mike sky in YouTube he has a squished in deformed face and women let him suck on their toes

>>31212772
That actually explains why being too tall is a disadvantage. Much like women with grotesquely huge tits become a turn off.

>>31210019
that guy is not just tall, he's good looking and dresses well.

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>>31222516
200cm here
I was already very tall as a middle schooler, back then I went to a dance class one time, when I tried approaching girls, they just shook their heads before I got close. Had to dance with the instructor
Now khv in my mid 30s

>>31210019
This guy looks like a twink, is that really attractive for women?

>>31228602
humiliation ritual

>>31210019
I think height qualifies you as a prospect. I’m 5’6” and a lot of the time it feels like I might as well be invisible. On apps this is an automatic deal breaker too because girls can easily swipe and find a taller suitor, which is what they typically want. I don’t blame them, being a short guy isn’t a great look, it’s just demoralizing to know there’s nothing us smalls can do about it other than pray we find a nice girl who’s willing to settle.

>>31228602
This is fucked. You know that guy is not psyched about this treatment. I used to date a girl who was 3 inches taller than me when I was in highschool and she would try to make me stand on curbs to kiss her in public. It was fucking humiliating and made me feel like shit. I was young at the time so I would laugh it off like the guy in this video is doing but it no doubt caused irreversible psychic damage.

>>31217168
>you autists spend thousands of hours optimizing your builds in video games, you pretty much just need to do that but in real life because being chadlike is just being an autist about your real life build
you had me here, good post

Yeah, women are shallow cunts. They'll shit on a tall's guy regardless, though. Same as with any other man

>>31210389
this is the same with everything related to size. obviously exceptions exist eg being a literal midget or micro dick. but relationships last on emotional connection/cuddling/FUN. big dicks and height are most relevsnt to this board because incels dream is to fuck 1000 women, not realizing that is a literal nightmare fulltime job. only genghis khan enjoyed that becsuse he had an army of men bringing the best naked girls to him

>>31210019
I'm 5'6 and Mexican and I've always had a girlfriend since age 16. anyone crying is just a cry baby. one thing you learn about women in life is that they are emotional, they cant help it, its their hormones. basically women already have a pussy, they dont need another one. grow a spine and compete, girls you like like money? find ways to get money, girls you like like fit dudes? hit the gym. I once took a super gay pottery class in my community college days simply because a red head I wanted to fuck was into that shit and I needed something to talk about with her.

>>31230051
>I'm 5'6 and Mexican
To be fair: 5'6 in Mexico is a lot closer to the average than it would be in Northern Europe.

One always needs to consider that the guys crying about being 5'6 might as well be living in Denmark.

I feel people overestimate height in terms of mate appeal but I do think that being 'too' short (as well as 'too' tall; but being too short is generally worse, at least when it comes to men) can severely hamper your mating prospects. It's like height doesn't really matter that much as long as you're in a certain average range but it starts to matter a lot more the further you deviate from that range.

>>31230051
>I once took a super gay pottery class in my community college days simply because a red head I wanted to fuck was into that shit and I needed something to talk about with her.
so you do things and live your life according to what someone else wants from you. isn't that sad?
also, what >>31230563 says. you are average for your country.

>>31230051
How about you stop racemixing you will never be white and your children will never be white

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>>31210019
I'm 6'3" and I'm a 29 year old virgin

>>31230563
>To be fair: 5'6 in Mexico is a lot closer to the average than it would be in Northern Europe.
from my understanding the midwestest states in the united states is largely filled with people or northern european decent no? I lived in ohio from 2006 to 2018 i spent a huge part of young adulthood being the only guy 5'6 and I still managed to get girls. I don't know about europe but any incel here crying about height is just trying to find ways to lie to themselves "girls dont like me because im short or asian" never seemed to stop me, social media actually made things easier since I have an accent and yes I am short so come on this is a pure cope and you know it, girls when you know how to talk to them and how to act around them dont care men are far more superficial then women. and before you say it all the girls I fucked around or dated, in total I slept with 9 if you dont count oral sex 7 then I dated 5 one on and off and the rest for several months the longest one being one of the last for about 3 years. I was faily active in the EDM scene and went to raves and a fair amount of house parties if that helps add context to all of it this.
>One always needs to consider that the guys crying about being 5'6 might as well be living in Denmark.
>Crying while living in europe
have they considered traveling to other parts of the EU? isnt that the whole point is freedom of movement? also isnt denmark a top destination for immigrants? why not inport some girls from diffrent parts of the world? i worked with a guy at hot topic waay back when I was in high school who basically did that, instead of continuing going to college he set up a website that helped dudes in the west to and meet women in asia and eastern europe. I get yes that some women might have a problem with shorter men especially the really tall ones but being rejected by one doesnt mean you will be rejected by all women for it.

>>31230563
>it starts to matter a lot more the further you deviate from that range.
you can say the same thing about literally anything, height is just something short guys fixate on, balding men about their loosing hair, fat men about their weight, non white men about their race etc etc, its all just a well thought out cope that only serves to lie to themselves as to why they arent having sex. is dating harder now? yes, in some ways but in other ways its not. i got both the flip phone pre social media everywhere era and I got the instagram era and I can say that finding women to sleep with at least in america (i no longer live there) was extremely easy, I just spent time actively doing it. this fantasy I see men on this website have that some 5'4 virgin 20 year old blonde woman is going to one day appear in their beds is lunacy. women like that have no need to be around you, especially if your not rich, overly handsome, famous etc etc so its on you to find ways to put yourself in their line of sight. I got laid alot from age 18 to 22 because I started working at hot topic, became friends with my coworkers there, they invited me to parties where I met more people and more girls who I traded numbers with texted and went to raves with and eventually had sex with. sitting in from of a computer crying all day that your short isnt a good strategy for getting laid, making friends and building friend groups especially with other dudes who have girls around them is, maybe try that and get off this websites a couple times a week?

>>31230771
>so you do things and live your life according to what someone else wants from you. isn't that sad?
I did things in order to be more relatable to a woman I really wanted to and eventually ended up dating and fucking for 8 months. yes, and I dont regret a single second of it. one of if not the hottest woman I ever had sex with. why would I regret that? because I had to listen to some old lady talk about pottery for a couple of weeks? imagine how much time you've spent on this website complaining when you could have been getting laid? isnt that sadder?
> you are average for your country.
I lived in ohio when I was younger, Im married now and live back home in mexico, mexicans are far far more superficial and "traditional" then americans are. women are far more picky and demanding and less open minded then white american women. and yet not only was I able to fuck white girls in america, I ended up finding a wife here in Mexico and having kids. whats your excuses anon? im sure you have a laundry list of them lol

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>>31230815
>white girls dont like me so i'm mad at this mexican whos fucked more of them then me

dont worry anon, i had no plans of marrying or having kids with any of them. I have kids now and I wanted them to look like me so I married a mexican woman. it still is funny to recount all the white girls I met at parties who I eventually had my dick in. stay mad lol

>>31231395
>have they considered traveling to other parts of the EU? isnt that the whole point is freedom of movement?
Some people might have the opportunity to travel, e.g. when studying abroad, but this is not the norm. Also, people are rooted somewhere. They have families, properties, jobs, ... - you don't just leave that behind all too easily.

>also isnt denmark a top destination for immigrants?
The immigrants who come to Europe are mostly men from the middle east and Africa. Also, they're culturally Muslim - marrying a Muslim girl as a native European is very uncommon since most native European guys wouldn't want to get stabbed by their brothers, cousins or uncles.

>why not inport some girls from diffrent parts of the world?
This is actually very common in Northern Europe. I think Sweden is has the highest amount of Thai brides.

>>31210019
Yes of course. Women prefer tall ugly men to shorter fit and handsome men.

>>31210019
I'm 6'7 but I'm fat and I've never had a gf

>>31231524
I just will avoid those whores hopefully someone kills them

>>31210019
>Does tall height for men really make dating easier?
idk buddy, I think this documentary may answer that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEgQiqL8TCk

>>31230051
>5'6
>always had a gf
cool story unless they're the most ugliest, fattest, -1/12 subhumans that is.

>>31210019
>dresses like a model
>gets eyed at because he could be a model
>"GUYS IS LIFE LE EASY AS A TALL MAN?"

I'm sure if he dressed like a drug dealer he wouldn't be eyed at much, he would mostly get looks from intimidated people

>>31232761
that mf has kino face, hairstyle, top tier height nd shit.