First child will be here soon. I don't know what to do about vaccination. Safe and effective? SIDS and autism? It seems like so much to dump into a tiny baby so quickly. I'm curious to see what /fit/ thinks.
Get your kid vaccinated you fucking moron
Keep your child away from doctors.
>>32224138>>32224139The duality of /fit/
>>32224140DIdn't question the vax narrative for a minute until 2020. >march: masks don't work idiots>*hoards masks*>wear a mask or you're a murderer
>>32224137Vaccines piggybacked off the success off indoor plumbing. End of story. They're not safe, nor effective. Dont let them snip your childs cock either.
>>32224142This nigger knows what's up.
>>32224142Circumcision is for sure off the table. I'll headbutt any cunt who tried to cut my boy.
>>32224137>asking anonymous 4chan fit for vaccination advicei feel so bad for children who have parents who are this retarded.
>>32224145>le "be a proud christian, homeschool your children and turn them socially retarded" fit larper
>>32224146I would feel bad for your kids if I didn’t know you weren’t going to have any stupid lefty
>>32224148>if you dont take vaccination advice for your children from anonymous retards on a shithole website, you're a "lefty"faggots like you need to be sterilized
>>32224146I'm specifically not asking for advice, I only intended to start a conversation. I'll draw my own conclusions.>>32224145We're homeschooling anyways. All public school did was teach me to hate niggers and get away with putting forth minimal effort.
>>32224137Vaccines don’t cause autism. It’s largely genetic so the fact that you’re on here is not helping matters.
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>>32224152>>32224137https://www.bitchute.com/video/JAlOTKGBdOJR/
>>32224145You can get exemptions unless you are in california or new york
>>32224147Homeschooling is growing rapidly, you won’t be isolated, you join the homeschool community. And public school churns out plenty of social retards so your argument really sucks, I would say sending your kid a into a racial jungle where he is literally taught to be queer and hide these lessons from his parents is much worse for his chances in life. It really doesn’t hold up that being isolated even would ruin them, even though they won’t even be isolated, social skills are a meme they are easy and everyone has them automatically, if anything being unjaded when you hit the adult world is way more important.Plus the one size fits all model of public school is really bad for everyone. Smart kids get held back and it crushes their potential, dumb kids get left behind. You can perfectly tailor your education to your kids abilities outside the government schools.And there is private school.
>>32224149Literally yes you are a retard and therefore a lefty, if we keep pressing we will expose all your left wing beliefs>>32224150Fucking based
>>32224150If you aren’t prepared to unconditionally love and support an autistic child you should not reproduce. It could happen to anyone. They have interests, dreams and unique personalities like any other child.
>>32224158Of course I'm prepared to do that. Some of the people in my life I love the most are autistic. That doesn't mean that I wish the condition on my children.
>>32224159One of the best things you can do to ‘prevent’ it or at least lessen the severity of it is to support their communication and behaviour when they are babies. Play with them for at least 15 minutes a day, follow their attentional focus in play and talk about what they are looking at. When they say a word, repeat it back with another word to expand their sentence length. Limit screen time to 0 hours a day for under 2s, 1 hour a day for under 5s. Take them outdoors and give them all the opportunities of a ‘normal’ child. >t. autism specialist
>>32224160>at least 15 minutes a day
>>32224161Some parents don’t even talk to their children
>>32224160I'd say that goes without saying, but I've seen how shitty some parents are. Thanks for the advice. I'm beyond excited to spend time with the little guy as he grows.
>>32224163Congrats on the family bro and good luck
>>32224164Thanks, man.
>>32224160>autism specialistBCBA? RBT? Or you yourself?
don't let the evil doctors inject a bunch of heavy metals and bullshit into your young naked and innocent childso fragiledon't circumcise either
>>32224142you're retarded.aside from being anti-circumcision.
>>32224145>Your child is gonna get 10x the vaccines you didwhich have a fraction of the antigens in them that you received.>>32224150vaccines don't cause autism. It's incredible that the claims of a child torturing conman got as mainstreamed as they did.
>>32224137Congrats on the baby OP. My wife is pregnant with our first, and we’re having the same discussion. Ultimately I think we’ll end up vaccinating, but skipping the flu shot and covid shot, which our pediatrician says are optional. Anecdotally, I have relatives and a few friends that have foregone vaccination, and I haven’t noticed any difference between their children and vaccinated children. They’re all healthy and bright because they have caring, attentive parents and mothers who are either full time homemakers or who only work part time jobs. Small children need their mother’s love first and foremost for healthy development.So I’m wary of vaccines, but I’m not convinced they’re as impactful as other environmental and sociological influences. But the reason we’re most likely going to vaccinate is to give our kid the best shot at a normal childhood. We work hard and pay a lot of money live in a nice, walkable neighborhood, in a town with a good school district, and I want my son to be able to go to public school with his friends from the neighborhood, play little league, go to a local pediatrician, and generally participate in wider society. I respect my family who has chosen not to vaccinate (and one cousin who chose not to get his kids and social security numbers either), but it’s definitely restricted their opportunities to integrate into their communities fully. It’s a trade off that you need to weigh.Good luck making your choice, OP. May God bless us both with strong, uncut, and healthy boys.
>>32224137Even if you listen to dipshits like this >>32224139your kid will not be allowed in schools without certain vacines like MMR, or allowed into daycare.So anon, even if you're REALLY sure you want your kid to die of fucking Measles after 3 years, just for the purpose of living your life just vaccinate your kid.
>>32224166AAC consultant. Myself idk but family members yes
>>32224137You're asking the wrong questionsThe correct questions are "is it necessary?" and "why is it necessary?"A mothers milk has antibodies You're child will be immune to anything your wife is until he's weenedIf you believe vaccines are good, and your wife is vaccinated to a degree you're satisfied with, there is no reason for your child to be vaccinated until he is weened
>>32224171Wrong reddit. Most states allow exemptions. Now go get your wuhan virus booster.
>>32224137is polio around anymore? you ever had it? imagine trusting your childs health to a bunch of schizos on 4chan kek how did you manage to convince a woman to breed with you?
Age of wife is the disease predictor. Not a dumb needle of anti monkey pox.Don't plant in hags.
>>32224175If its not around anymore why would i need a vaxx for it?
>>32224175>convince
>>32224137>The people who hate me will make an exception when it comes to vaccinesVaccines make sense, the smallpox vaccine worked. But if you trust today's governments to inject you with anything you'd have to be completely braindead. At worst it will sterilise or kill you, at best you'll be running a high risk, as subjects for experimental vaccines, to prevent a disease that does nothing anyway.
>>32224176This is true
>>32224145I pity anyone who goes to public school. It's literally a liberal brainwashing cult, infested with low class animals.
>>32224180wouldnt the government want the subservient people who get the vaccine to breed and the rule-breakers who dont get it to not breed?
>>32224175Go get you booster. Take your p.r.e.p. too.
>>32224137Other than the covid "vaccine", most vaccines are a good idea. Just try to spread them out a bit, rather than overload your kid's immune system.
>>32224177>polo:cases almost down to nothing by the time the vaccine is introduced >same thing for dyptheria>smallpox: cases go way up after mandatory vax Pretty crazy
>>32224185No they aren't. When will you learn?
>>32224178>>32224179>>32224184took 2 doses astrazeneca and a booster and i'm still standing. i have elite genetics so no vaccine could ever harm me. cope weak link faggots
>>32224188Cool get another booster retard.
>>32224170>live in a nice, walkable neighborhood, in a town with a good school district, and I want my son to be able to go to public schoolLIBTARD LEFTIST KEK
>>32224170you can get an exemption my heckin GUY
>>32224151Autism is not genetic, it’s developmental in the womb and early childhood. That’s literally the only thing we know about it.
>>32224137It occurs to me that nothing good comes from jews or from vaccines.
>>32224137Autism is extremely likely given how the the connection between vaccines and autism was "disproved". I assume ADHD and other mental issues has a connection too.There is also an interesting correlation between LGBT and vaccination but good luck getting anyone to take an honest look at it.
>>32224150>We're homeschooling anyways.Based.
>>32224151There is a documentary where they interview the woman who got the paper confirming the link retracted. She displays extremely clear signs of at best motivated reasoning and at worst of being a liar. If you are able to read people I recommend trying to find it and then watch it. The documentary itself is pro vaccine.
If your offspring is so weak they get fucked by a tiny vaccine they werent meant to live anyways.
Vaxxies itt proving themselves to be despicable subhumans as always
>>32224137My brother in Christ, ignore this place with this question. Ask your doctor. Ask multiple doctors. Read any number of studies on vaccine efficacy. Don’t listen to anyone here.
>>32224188You had elite genetics. You are now GMO slop.
>>32224137Do you want your child to be healthy enough and live looking enough to risk autism and cancer? Then vaccinate him. There's a real possibility all those new diseases are there because we don't cull the herd, do you want your child to be culled?
>>32224137Who the fuck comes to 4chan for advice about raising a baby? I hope to God this is a LARP.
>>32224195I guess everyone pre-vaccine era was autistic then huh
>>32224203What’s a better place for advice than 4chan
Have you considered when you'll start putting him on PrEP?
>>32224182Private school isn't much better. Some are even worse.
>>32224207No, they're not.
>>32224140The duality of 2 different people...
>>32224183A lazy farmer will send the animals who are easier to catch to the slaughter.
>>32224204Everyone? Did you mean no one?My position is that vaccines makes autism more frequent.
>>32224211My bad I thought you were being serious.
>>32224168They changed the definition of vaccine at Merriam Webster in January 2021, between the 18th and 26th.https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaccine
>>32224214Except this theory falls flat on it's face when they could quite easily eradicate huge swathes of the population in African and Asian cuntries which are the sole cause of this overpopulation
>>32224215Yeah but a white guy wrote Mein Kampf.
>>32224214are you fucking insane lmfao. i am honestly amazed what spaces i share with people
>>32224137Dont do it they changed them into Mrna gene theraphies they are not traditional vaccines anymore and even those are toxic to begin with if you love you're child and have a brain keep the away from that garbage
>>32224217Maybe the sick ones are those who are well adjusted to a profoundly sick society
>>32224190If you want to live in a wealthy, white neighborhood in the US you have to live among leftists. You would know this if you owned property.>>32224191Not where I live. I know people who have tried, and the state claims Christianity isn’t a valid reason for exemption.
>>32224192Okay but have you actually met and interacted with an Amish person? I spent time with some Mennonites through a church function and they were acting like autists. Couldn’t look anyone in the eye or carry on a conversation. Even among a religious crowd that tends to be less socially aware, they stood out as strange.
>>32224142This post best post/thread
>>32224221>nobody had social skills before vaccines chudsHot take?
>>32224137These threads all work the same.>Hey. It's me, Anon>I have a child soon>I don't know if I should vaccinate him>cuz of wombtism and some other made-up stuff.>it seems like it's just wrong ton dump toxins in my stuff (Proving that OP already has made a decision)It's just shilling at that point. Copy-pasted from some script, meant to politically manipulate gullible people on the internet.
>>32224137vaccination isn't retarded just because of autism. it's retarded because the viruses they vaccinate for don't circulate anymore. vaccines DO have side effects. the tradeoff would be worth it if your child were at risk of encountering the disease. most viruses require you to share blood with an infected human, or have sex with an infected human. so unless your kid starts doing heroin or has unprotected sex with sluts, he should be safe.
>>32224223>Vaccines are the cause why I suck at social skills.That's probably one of the most retarded things I've read so far. Ignoring all the actual biological and neurological stuff that could be associated with vaccine side effects, instead going for the most meaningless term that one can come up with.
>>32224195>Autism is extremely likely given how the the connection between vaccines and autism was "disproved". Based on large-scale statistical analyses that have clearly shown no association?>>32224197>She displays extremely clear signs of at best motivated reasoning and at worst of being a liar. That may only be your projection since you have already come up with lots of very funny arguments as to why the pro-vax crowd must be wrong.>If you are able to read people I recommend trying to find it and then watch it. Are you able to read people?
>75369344>the viruses they vaccinate for don't circulate anymore>most viruses require you to share blood with an infected humanthis faggot is gonna die of whooping cough
>>32224228You do realise Mr Gibson bent over backwards for the kikes and apologised profusely
>>32224225we already don't have unnecessary vaccines. since when do western babies have vaccines for yellow fever or TB?if a disease is not extinct we need to maintain a critical mass of vaccinated people else it starts spreading again.this thinking is why measles is on the rise again.
>>32224159>That doesn't mean that I wish the condition on my children.The condition doesn't exist. It's largely made-up and hasn't been clearly connected to any biological mechanism.>Some of the people in my life I love the most are autistic.So why would you not wish your child to become like them?>>32224172>AAC consultant. Myself idk but family members yesAAC has been found ineffective in treating autism hence why outside of the USA, insurance companies don't cover for it.>Myself idk >but family members yesMeaningless diagnosis, partially because your family member probably is super high-functioning, second because autism is not in itself a valid medical diagnosis, but simply a behavioral diagnosis.
>>32224208a huge amount of gay sex and pedophilia happens in private schools
>>32224160>One of the best things you can do to ‘prevent’ it or at least lessen the severity of it is to support their communication and behaviour when they are babies.1. Autism can't be diagnosed in babies.2. Therapies specifically meant to support communication and behaviour (Hi, British guy) in kids has been found ineffective in reducing autism severity.>Limit screen time to 0 hours a day for under 2s, 1 hour a day for under 5s. Screen time is not clearly associated with the development of autism. Neither is it associated with severity.>Take them outdoors and give them all the opportunities of a ‘normal’ child. Most parents do that.>Play with them for at least 15 minutes a day, follow their attentional focus in play and talk about what they are looking at. Again, that's what most parents do and some of them still become severely autistic. Your advice is absolutely meaningless.>t. autism specialistI bet.
>>32224137Pharmacist here, married to a doctor.Give any vaccine your GP suggests to your kid as long as it has been appproved and on the market for at least 10 years.
>>32224235why would I take advice from a female?
>>32224142Plumbing didn't stop polio. Vaccines did.
>>32224235A doctor is the last persons advice I want on anything, all you are is a dispenser for a government supported drug racket
>>32224237polio was already going away on it's own. polio vaccine was introduced when the disease was almost already gone.
>>32224213>the dictionary broadened their definition, and that is 100% how science has been done over the last century: following webster's dictionary definitions
before vaccinating, look up the mortality rate of the disease and the incidence of viruses don't let the glorified drug prescription machines dissuade you from cold hard statistics
>>32224234What interventions do you propose to support those children instead?>>32224231>AAC has been found ineffective in treating autism hence why outside of the USA, insurance companies don't cover for it.It's not a treatment anon it's a compensatory method to give non-verbal autistic a way to communicate. And it is covered by insurance outside of the USA
>>32224171>even if you're REALLY sure you want your kid to die of fucking Measles after 3 yearsIt's amazing how measles went from being widely viewed as a minor sickness that every kid gets to a super lethal surefire way to die in the last 30 years. Vaccine propaganda is hilarious.>>32224169>It's incredible that the claims of a child torturing conman got as mainstreamed as they did.Like I said, you people are hilarious.>>32224227>Based on large-scale statistical analyses that have clearly shown no association?Autists were nearly nonexistent until 30 years ago. Ask Gen Xers and boomers how many autists they knew and they'll most likely tell you "zero", because they simply didn't exist in any significant numbers at all prior to massively expanded vaccine schedules. You pieces of shit can't explain this away no matter what you do.
>>32224245>You pieces of shit can't explain this away no matter what you do.Neptune wasn't discovered until 1846, but by god, I'm pretty sure it was there before our understanding of science allowed us to recognize it as existing.
>>32224246Our "understanding of science" had nothing to do with it. An expanded "understanding of science" does not explain how autistics went from 1 in 10k children to 1 in 25 in less than 100 years. These people simply did not exist in remarkable numbers before the millennial generation.
>>32224247except...dramatically broadening the definitions, being able to spot more subtle signs, and accepting other behavioral disorders as being in the ASD absolutely does explain that.I bet if you asked those boomers how many 'slow' kids were in their classes, they'd answer. Same with those 'weird' kids.They just weren't called autistic back then. It is literally this easy to explain, and I don't believe that nobody has been able to point out such BASIC fucking logic to you before.
>>32224237Polio got erradicated by her immunity far before the vaccine
>>32224237Well lucky for everyone now, we dont need a Polio vaccine either.
>>32224242broadened it to include what they giving out for COVID, since it was not a vaccine.
>>32224244>What interventions do you propose to support those children instead?Not the ones that 1. aren't actual interventions, 2. communicate to parents that they're probably a failure and possibly responsible for the child's defect (even though some probably are) or that 3. are simply trivial things to do. >It's not a treatment anon it's a compensatory method to give non-verbal autistic a way to communicateIt would do justice to the discussion if we were, for once, allowed to differentiate between Asperger's and classic Autism.I also fail to see the purpose of behavior-based intervention in children who, as we're told, suffer from some kind of biologically determined genetic disease. I have worked in a disability care center, which included severely autistic adults. Many of them had a history of epileptic fits, regression etc. and presented with very obvious motor dysfunctions to the point of being unable to safely walk the street without falling down. They were developmentally stuck on the level of a small child. Franky, these cases looked to me quite brain-damagy. So, I don't feel comfortable with you supporting to flushing down millions in taxpayer money for therapies that barely work.
>>32224248>except...dramatically broadening the definitions, being able to spot more subtle signs, and accepting other behavioral disorders as being in the ASD absolutely does explain that.A specific set of criteria are involved in an "autism" diagnosis. The useless non-verbal retards who represent 1 in 25 children being born were not a thing in prior generations, and you're being disingenuous as you people always are.
>>32224253>the only people who count as being autistic are the people I personally think are autisticASD is an incredibly broad spectrum of traits, and most autistic people are fully verbal. Contrary to what you personally believe, yes, the definitions of who is autistic have expanded dramatically.I do love when you brainlets out yourselves like this.
>>32224245>You pieces of shit can't explain this away no matter what you do.I'm not willing to entertain a discussion with someone who projects his own autism issue so obviously.>>32224248>except...dramatically broadening the definitions, being able to spot more subtle signs...Made-up terms allow for infinite redefinition and thus can be redefined to include anyone. Without a valid external reference point, we simply can't compare autism prevalence rates in a way that would allow us to compare today with 1980.
>>32224254>ASD is an incredibly broad spectrum of traitsWe're not talking about things like Asperger's, we're talking about autism, and no, what is considered "autistic" is the same as it always was, and the occurrence of that has jumped from 1 in 10k to 1 in 25 in less than a century.>I do love when you brainlets out yourselves like this.Ironic.
>>32224253>A specific set of criteria are involved in an "autism" diagnosis.Yes, but they don't include:>useless non-verbal retards Anyway...>who represent 1 in 25 children being born were not a thing in prior generationsHow would you even know. Have you personally checked the asylums, every school and every house to check for them "retards" in the '70s? Probably not because you weren't even alive prior to the late '80s the very earliest.>and you're being disingenuous as you people always are.You seem to be generally confused about the meaning of autism since you think it means "mental retardation". Most people, even laymen, know that they're two different things.
>>32224255>I'm not willing to entertain a discussion with someone who projects his own autism issue so obviously.I accept your concession my nig
>>32224256>all the advances in our understanding of autism are fake because I say so, except that the people I've personally decided are autistic have increased to the numbers as a result of those increases in understanding!!!God, you're like a flat earther. Dismiss literally every single bit of information that doesn't fit into your delusions, but then you cherry pick tiny fragments of data points to smugly claim you've cracked the code.You want to talk about how autism rates have also perfectly lined up with organic food consumption?
>>32224257>Have you personally checked the asylums, every school and every house to check for them "retards" in the '70s?If they existed and 1 in 25 people have always been autistic like they are now, we would know about them. But they weren't, because it's a new phenomenon.>>32224259>flat earth referenceWell-poisoning shill cliche, bring up lizard people while you're at it. Thanks for giving me the signal to ignore the rest of what you wrote.
>>32224256>We're not talking about things like Asperger's, we're talking about autismAsperger's is subsumed under ASD. You don't even get basic definitions right.>and no, what is considered "autistic" is the same as it always wasHow would you know that? Given that you clearly fail at understanding, let alone using, basic psychiatric concepts correctly, it strikes me as disingenous to get told by someone that the definition of autism remained the same over 50 years when checking and comparing the DSM-5 with DSM-III very clearly reveals the opposite.>and the occurrence of that has jumped from 1 in 10k to 1 in 25 in less than a century.You are very trusting of diagnostic units that are known to be financially incentivized to diagnose more and more people with something.
>>32224261>Asperger's is subsumed under ASD.I didn't say it wasn't. The rest of your post is not worth addressing.
>>32224260>If they existed and 1 in 25 people have always been autistic like they are now, we would know about themSee my point here:>>32224261For once, you keep confusing "retards", which have always existed with autistics, then deliberately ignore my and the other guy's comment that most people nowadays diagnosed as autistic are barely different from normal.Which brings me to another point that I've brought up:You are extremely trusting of psychiatrists getting things right when the same profession pretty much is under total control by the pharmaceutical industry.
>>32224169>a child torturing conmanWho told you this lie?The study showing it was published in Lancet and only disavowed when a court forced them to, and the court only decided to because a civil court decided that the wrong people funded the study and therefore it should be ignored.
>>32224262>I didn't say it wasn't.You clearly did.See: >>32224256>We're not talking about things like Asperger's, we're talking about autism.No, we're talking about ASD prevalence rates, which includes Asperger's.>The rest of your post is not worth addressing.Out of lack of any arguments...
>>32224171The odds of a kid dying of measles without the vaccine are low to begin with.
>>32224264The Wakefield study was first referenced and disproven by another study back in 1999. It was then disavowed because a court has found Andrew Wakefield guilty of 1. having faked data, 2. having received money from lawyers that worked on behalf of parents who wanted to sue a pharmaceutical company, 3. having conspired in faking a study so that the MMR vaccine would be split up into three different vaccines from which Wakefield himself would have financially profited of. The study subjects of his "scientific study" were children specifically procured by lawyers. The worst part is that this was all known by 2002.
>>32224267Why are you lying?
>>32224265>Out of lack of any arguments...I'll make an argument when one is presented to me to respond to.
>>32224169>It's incredible that the claims of a child torturing conman got as mainstreamed as they did.They got mainstreamed as soon as the US-American political apparatus decided to politicize and polarize people based on vaccine policies. It's not a coincidence that the whole vaccine-autism shit happened back in the second Bush term (2005-2009) when the US government started pushing for tightening vaccine mandates in the school system. It flared up again after Covid, around 2022, the vaccine-autism claim which had been pretty much disappeared for a couple of years, was again everywhere...
>>32224221Mennonites aren't Amish. They're Amish larpers who dress the part but don't adhere to the cultural restrictions at all. Like Mennonites will dress like Amish but buy tractors and shit. Like those Jews with their cheat God on the Sabbath bullshit.
>>32224260>poisoning the welloh, you want to talk about fallacious arguments now? Like your arguments from absurdity?>I don't understand how this thing works, but everyone who is telling me how this thing works is wrong because I say so. The only data points that are valid are the ones that I personally believe in
>>32224270>the vaccine-autism claim which had been pretty much disappeared for a couple of yearsthere was a massive measles outbreak in rockland NY in late 2018, as well as one in american samoa which resulted in the deaths of 84 children in late 2019, RIGHT BEFORE COVID. People were ABSOLUTELY still talking about the retarded 'vaccines cause autism' bullshit.Shit, the Vaxxed movie came out in 2016.
>>32224270Vaccines are made by cutthroat pharmaceutical megacorporations that have no (as in zero) incentive not to ruin people's health for life or outright kill them. This wasn't just the case for the genetic therapies for COVID, it has in fact been the case since the late 1980s. You cannot directly sue a vaccine manufacturer for adverse reactions.>>32224273>as well as one in american samoa which resulted in the deaths of 84 children in late 2019Yeah, and I'm sure that it was the measles specifically that killed them lol
>>32224273>resulted in the deaths of 84 children in late 2019Bullshit. Measles isn't that lethal.
>>32224268This is copied from an anti-vax book linked to RFK Jr. It's also wrong:A link between bowel disorders and autism has been made before Wakefield, most of them were simply shown to be false.Neither did these prior studies include any mention of Ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia.Second problem: Ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia is an acclaimed bowel condition unique to Wakefield's study. Hasn't been introduced nor did Wakefield ever provide anyone with an external validator of that condition.Third problem: Chronic enterocolitis isn't limited to autistics nor is it present in a large number of them.Further, it claims: >This paper is viewed as the pioneer of the gut-brain connection in autism.No one actually claims that.>It has been cited in more than two hundred other studies.Yes, nearly all of which cite it as an example of bad and fraudulent science.>The paper's other conclusion, which was really more commentary...Thanks for proving another point. The Wakefield study, in fact, EXPLICITLY failed at finding a causal relationship between vaccines and autism. So... why pretend that it did?
>>32224276Yeah, that's what I thought, too. Absolutely absurd vaxxie propaganda nonsense.
>>32224277>anti-vaxUsing this word is showing your real motivation, I hope you realize that.
>>32224276>>32224275measles killed 130,000 people, almost all of whom were under the age of 5, in 2023 alone.It's absolutely a deadly disease.>>32224268>Wakefield wasn't a lying conman fraud who tortured children! This other lying conman fraud says so!
>>32224278The death rate for measles is 1-2 in 1000 people.
>>32224280>Wakefield wasn't a lying conman fraud who tortured children!He literally didn't lol but it's funny that you decry a man for "child torture" which he never had any hand in and yet you promote dangerous pharmaceutical products that create lifelong disabilities in children. I guess that's not "torture" to you, though.
>>32224273>as well as one in american samoa which resulted in the deaths of 84 children in late 2019, RIGHT BEFORE COVIDYes, a couple months after RFK Jr. left the island... The chances for that are quite odd.>Shit, the Vaxxed movie came out in 2016.It's all RFK Jr. No one else was seriously entertaining that thought except one guy that claimed to be broke but clearly wasn't the whole time. Who funded him?>>32224275>You cannot directly sue a vaccine manufacturer for adverse reactions.You can't sue a vaccine manufacturer for declared adverse reactions. In fact, you can't sue any manufacturer of any drug simply because you experience a declared adverse reaction. There is absolutely nothing special about that.
>>32224280Bullshit. The death rate for Measles is 1-2 people per 1000. For a hundred thousand to die then MILLIONS must have caught it. The vaccine effective rate at preventing deaths is 97%. The no-vaccine effective odds of not dying are 99.4%.You're a retard or a lying sack of shit.
>>32224283No, you cannot directly sue a vaccine manufacturer for adverse reactions, period. They never pay a dime.
>>32224282>he literally didn'toh yes, tell me more about how unwarranted lumbar punctures and running a gamut of unnecessary procedures without warning the parents clearly about the risks of the procedures, and telling the parents you'd have to sedate the children to perform the trials if they didn't cooperate...isn't torturing kids.>>32224284the vaccine...wait till you hear about how the vaccination rate plummeted thanks to RFK.Also...do you think those two numbers are separate? That your death rate is higher if you vaccinate?You're a retard.>>32224285that's not true at all. You absolutely can...you just have to go through the vaccine court first. If you fail, you can then take the manufacturers to court.Trouble is, the burden of proof is WAY higher in a regular court, and you'd be going against the vaccine manufacturer's lawyers. Nobody has ever won...doesn't mean you can't TRY.
>>32224279You didn't answer to any of my raised points. You have simply copied a text (its entirety references a single source), then go still when I deconstruct the text. There is something fundamentally wrong when anti-vaxxers find themselves in the position where they have to explicitly admit that one of their documents, an ideological cornerstone, states the opposite of what they claim it says. The study wasn't retracted because of the results. It came forward because of all the corruption involved in it.
>>32224286*If everyone is immunized, nobody will die.More "If you get the vaccine you won't get sick" propaganda. The vaccine is only 97% effective.
>>32224287>That your death rate is higher if you vaccinate?Considering I didn't make this argument, reddit, i'm not sure who you're arguing with or calling a retard. Is it the voice in your head?
>>32224289>"I don't understand how the immune system works, and so everyone else is wrong!"
>>32224274Wild stuff. Vaccine science in general is pretty fucked considering the standard for safety testing is to compare the results of injecting a vaccine to injecting aluminum instead of, you know, an actual inert placebo. But we don't want to be "anti-science" by pointing out blatantly bad science I guess.>>32224288>It came forward because of all the corruption involved in it.Except there wasn't any corruption like you suggest there was, you disingenuous lying faggot.
>>32224290okay, so why are you talking about the vaccine efficacy rates when discussing samoa, a territory that had had its vaccination rate plummet leading up to the deadly measles outbreak?
>>32224291You could just say that. I do know how it works, which is why I know you don't and you're just repeating shit you heard once.Explain to me why my child needs a Hepatitis B vaccine minutes after he's born if neither I nor his mother have Hep B? Are you planning to rape my child or get him hooked on IV drugs? Oh wait, you are planning to rape him... nevermind.
>>32224292>There wasn't any corruptionwell, that study>was funded by a lawyer who sought to sue the manufacturers>was released a year after wakefield patented a competing vaccine>had only 12 children>said children had their medical histories changed to better suit his narrative>the scientist who performed the tests to find measles in the colon samples didn't find ANY measles virus, a cornerstone for wakefield's conclusion>and last but not least, had all the co-authors kept separate and in the dark about the findings the other researchers were finding, which lead to all of them withdrawing their names from the paper in the subsequent years prior to the paper's retractionbut sure...none of that is corruption.
>>32224293I'm not, you're imagining things.
>>32224137if you want your kid to be healthy enough to enojy their retirement after their working life is over you should follow a vaccination schedule. i have a baby nephew and niece and i would fucking hate to see them get like meningitis or preventable pneumonia one bad week after getting strep throat and go deaf dumb blind retarded wheezy or spastic or whatever else the worst case scenario of a unvaccinated-for-but-preventable disease would be
>>32224295>The study was funded by a biased partyYes. And Vaccine manufacturers who stand to make billions of dollars have no incentive to lie with their research.
>>32224294are you going to tell me there is a 0% chance your child will never ever need a blood transfusion? If you're going to protect them for life, why not get it done as early as possible, before any possible thing could happen to them?
>>32224297If only there was a way to treat Pneumonia.
>>32224292>Except there wasn't any corruption like you suggest there was, you disingenuous lying faggot.There was. I don't even have to believe the court when the lawyers themselves admitted to it and audits proved it.Wakefield took money from lawyers in exchange for setting up a fraudulent study to support cases of damage/compensation claims. This occurred in addition to him promoting his own financial interests/stocks related to vaccine manufacturing.
>>32224144beware a lot of times they will try to pressure your wife while youre away and straight up cut him and tell you qfter.
>>32224298>"Okay, so my paper was biased and rooted in corruption...but so are all the others!!!"Other studies are replicable. Wakefield's study has never ever been replicated, and his magic new syndrome of autism has never been replicated either.
>>32224287>wait till you hear about how the vaccination rate plummeted thanks to RFK.It's funny how you guys want to pin people foregoing vaccination on one boogeyman brainwashing them when it's possible that they simply have a brain and didn't want to subject their children to unnecessary pharmaceuticals that run the risk of ruining their lives before they've even really began.>>32224287>You absolutely can...you just have to go through the vaccine court first. If you fail, you can then take the manufacturers to court.No, you can't. The law explicitly protects vaccine manufacturers from any lawsuits. I'm actually astounded by how shameless you are in your lying.>>32224294I would also like for them to explain why a prepubescent child needs the Gardasil vaccine which I think only offers like half a year of immunity. Are they assuming that these 12 year old girls are going to be having sex with somebody who has genital warts within half a month?
>>32224299>Muh blood transfusionsThat's not why it's on the vaccine schedule, and the odds are pretty fucking low to begin with.But suppose they do need one?Why not get the vaccine THEN instead of requiring it the day they're born?
>>32224298>Yes. And Vaccine manufacturers who stand to make billions of dollars have no incentive to lie with their research.Again, you're projecting...
>>32224301>setting up a fraudulent studyThere was no "fraudulent study". You shills out yourselves every time you say this.
>>32224304>subject their children to unnecessary pharmaceuticals that run the risk of ruining their lives before they've even really beganyeah, that worked out great for those 84 kids.https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/faq>Under the Act, persons with petitions of vaccine-related injuries or deaths resulting from covered vaccines must first exhaust their remedies under the VICP before they can pursue legal actions against vaccine manufacturers or administrators.>To exhaust the remedies available under the VICP and pursue a legal action against a vaccine manufacturer or administrator outside of the VICP, a VICP petitioner must either withdraw his or her petition (if the special master of the U. S. Court of Federal Claims (Court) has failed to issue a decision or the Court has failed to enter judgment within the time provided by the Act) or reject the judgment under the VICP.You're a retard.
>>32224306No friend, that's you. I'm not defending Wakefield, only pointing out the obvious reasons why there was such a non-scientific backlash to it, but you're too used to arguing with strawmen in your head that you declared me a heretic and decided to berate and insult me instead of reading what I actually said.It's a religious belief for you, which is why you're so angry about it.
>>32224304>didn't want to subject their children to unnecessary pharmaceuticals that run the risk of ruining their lives before they've even really began.How does this make lumbar punctures and painful colonoscopies look good?>>32224304>The law explicitly protects vaccine manufacturers from any lawsuits...from declared adverse reactions. Again, you and everyone else can read up on that. It's not like I or anyone else could not independently verify that claim.>>32224304>why a prepubescent child needs the Gardasil vaccine Deflecting.
>>32224309>say dumb shit>get explained why your dumb shit is dumb>"wooow so many strawmen"
>>32224308For 84 children to have died, every person on the Island must have gotten the disease THAT YEAR (and never ever before), and nobody on the island could ever have gotten the vaccine or had naturally acquired immunity, and that's just retarded.
>>32224307>You shills out yourselves every time you say this.This gets old.>>32224309>It's a religious belief for you, which is why you're so angry about it.Projection. You have failed to counter any of my arguments.An actual shill would have stopped by now since any such person would understand the futility of his project. We're dealing with people here who, very clearly, don't handle their autism diagnoses very well.
>>32224312why do you think average death rates are hard and fast concrete numbers that could never ever POSSIBLY be higher or lower?
>>32224311You haven't addressed anything I said, just what you imagined I said.>>32224313>you failed to counterYou're retarded, reddit.
>>32224315So...is this all you have? Keep vague as shit, then when people respond to your vague nonsense, you pivot and pretend that's not what you were implying?
>>32224308>yeah, that worked out great for those 84 kids.Who did not die from measles, but yeah, keep sucking Big Pharma cock.>https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/faqThe wording is deceptive and incorrect. Vaccine manufacturers cannot be sued directly according to the law and any compensation is awarded from taxpayer money, not the manufacturers themselves.
>>32224317>who did not die from measlesbecause you say so.>"This official source is deceptive and fake!"because you say so.What you're referring to is the process in the VICP, or the vaccine court. To sue the manufacturers, you have to go through the VICP first. Again, things aren't fake just because you say so.
>>32224137SIDS was actually just people smoking indoors. it's not a thing anymore.
>>32224318>because you say so.Because I'm correct.>To sue the manufacturers, you have to go through the VICP first.No, you CANNOT directly sue the manufacturers. Vaccine court is all there is and there is no jury, only a single court-appointed "special master" who hears a case an decides whether or not your case is valid. I'm done dealing with this pilpul.
>>32224320>who hears a case an decides whether or not your case is valid. So, you can sue for vaccine damages...>there is no juryWhy would I want 12 people who know absolutely nothing about it to decide on that?
>>32224320>All the data from official sources is fake because I say so!And now you're into the 'nuh uh' phase of anti-vaxxer tantrums.
>>32224316I haven't been vague, you'd been arguing with a strawman opponent fgrom the beginning because you're the smartest person in the world any anybody who disagrees with anything you say must believe the polar opposite on everything.Touch grass, as they say.
>>32224323sure thing, karen.
>>32224314Not an argument.The Measles death rate before the vaccine was well known and tracked. You're whittled down to "It might POSSIBLY be worse" which is a bad way to predicate your entire world view.
>>32224322>anti-vaxxerNobody is guilt-tripped by this nonsense word anymore.>>32224321>So, you can sue for vaccine damages...So the vaccine court, an arm of the federal government, can potentially (but not likely) award you with a paltry sum collected from taxpayer money while the manufacturers themselves pay nothing. That's the last response you get.
>>32224321You mean like they decided on the Wakefield case?
>>32224324Sure thing Shaneequa
>>32224325These numbers are pretty easy to look up. The sum total of your insistence these people didn't die from measles is 'well the average death rate is too low for that many'You have zero actual evidence. Just 'nuh uh' based on nothing. There are approximately 17,250 car accidents in the USA every day. I guess it's completely impossible for one day to have 23,000 accidents, or one day to have 11,436.Because...you know. That's how averages work, right? Anything that is different from that centralized number is totally impossible.
>>32224326>That's the last response you get.You keep on repeating the same words over and over again. This is just obsessive-compulsive behavior that involves hyperfixation on some topic.>>32224327>You mean like they decided on the Wakefield case?Yes because the jury did not have to decide on scientific claims (which would require an in-depth knowledge of whatever field you're dealing with), but on charges related to corruption, embezzlement and forgery. Again, since you openly admit that the Wakefield study has nothing to do with vaccines or autism, why would you still care about it?
>>32224327the wakefield case was ruled upon by a medical council looking at accusations of gross fraud and medical malpractice. It wasn't a group of laypeople with zero medical credentials looking at complex medical data.
>>32224227>Based on large-scale statistical analyses that have clearly shown no association?Are you familiar with the expression "lies, damned lies, and statistics"?>That may only be your projection since you have already come up with lots of very funny arguments as to why the pro-vax crowd must be wrong.Are those arguments in the post you are replying to or in posts you assume or pretend to assume I wrote?Seeing her talk was what moved me from personally evaluating the cost/benefit ratio of each vaccine to antivaxx. I can't evaluate myself based on information that has been tampered with.>Are you able to read people?Yes, I'm fairly good at spotting certain people I would be wise to distrust.
>>32224309>It's a religious belief for youThis, lefties are secular pietists, a modern evolution of the crazy religious nut job that needs to convert and control everybody. Thats why they get irrationally angry at something as benign as believing the earth is flat, if you don’t believe in science then science won’t save them.
>>32224137you stupid shit head, get the kid vaccinated
>>32224150>We're homeschooling yeah, train your kid to be a loser
>>32224235Do the opposite of what any doctor says 99% of the time.1% margin of error.
>>32224150>>32224137>autistic retard is dedicated to ruining his child as wellgrim, hopefully you drop dead before he's born.
>>32224302Source:
>>32224171>your kid will not be allowed in schoolsthat's a good thing
>>32224137Get your kids vaccinated. The fear mongering and autism has everything to do with elderly wombs and schools/parents enabling weird shit rather than beating it out of them. SIDS isn't real and is infatanticide by new mothers. Notice it only exists in 1st world countries where rosaries regret becoming mothers.
>>32224342It's pointless to argue with these people, he already made his choice. He will homeschool his retarded polio child and there's nothing anyone can do to stop him.
>>32224137The vitamin K vaccine which is not a vitamin at all and is given right after birth cause chronic ear infections, delayed speech and motor function, jaundice and more. I went through all of these things and still deal with ear infections to this day. I have seen babies react to the shot and almost die being retarded for life afterwards. They were fine. Don't give your kids the shots. I know it's a hard wager but they might die either way. At least let nature take control.
>>32224137WAIT. Just wait. You don’t need to decide until you decide about school. Other countries such as Japan wait and gradually vax when the child is older. You don’t need to instantly pump your baby full of drugs.
>>32224137Vaccines are largely a meme. They exist solely to generate money for big pharma. The only vaccine anyone needs is a rabbies vaccine after an encounter with a potentially rabid animal.
>>32224337How so? Legitimately, how does public school benefit kids? Sports, camps, group activities, education and friendships can all be handled without forcing your kid to sit in a public school for 8 hours a day. It's a tremendous waste of time for any child who's even slightly brighter than average.>>32224339Stay mad, faggot. I'm better than you by every measurable metric. Enjoy being a genetic dead end. Maybe beating off in front of your computer a few more times will help you get your life together. Enjoy bagging my kid's fries.
>>32224137>Safe and effective? Yes.>SIDS and autism?Unrelated to vaccination.That you are doubting is sign of how badly you've let your mind be infected.
I won’t be getting mine vaxxed
>>32224250>we dont need a Polio vacc-ACK!
>>32227082It's all in God's plan. Accept what happens.
>>32224137>I don't know what to do about vaccination. Safe and effective? SIDS and autism?It's hard to tell, there are pros and cons, and medicine is not an exact science, it's a statistical science (i.e. it works in 99.98% of the cases - but your child can be the 0.02%). Lately they vehiculate a saying "the risks of the contracted illness are higher than the risks of taking the vaccine" - this is correctly put, but obviously, on a second thought, it sounds hazardously. It's not different than an fundamentalist anti-vaxxer saying: "I'll trust God will keep my child safe", but reversed: "I'll trust the doctors will keep my child safe", knowing that in both cases there is a small percentage for things to go wrong.Yes, vaccines are related with SIDS and autism. My advice is to never take the non-mandatory for school ones, never take the flu shot, Covid vaccine (which isn't a real vaccine, it's mRNA therapy), and take the ones that are important, if you don't want to refuse all of them. Maybe ask for vaccines that don't have thimerosal (mercury) in them? Very probably the nurse won't know because they are retarded. Look up "Trace Amounts" documentary on odysee or bitchute. It's not the vaccine itself that causes autism, it's the thimerosal. If you have trouble with the schools, I'm sure you'll find a Tonisha at the local Walmart that will stamp and sign everything you want in exchange for a Benjamin Franklin. >>32224144>CircumcisionI can't even imagine on what earth this savagery is on the discussing table. I guess I'm underestimating americanos. pure golems.
>>32227261Thanks. I'll take a look. And yeah, USA. The fact that genital mutilation is so commonplace here is infuriating.
>>32224151>Vaccines don’t cause autism.science never said that. science is skeptical and questions everything. a real doctor and a real scientist will never ever say with 100% certainty that vaccines don't cause autism. What is autism, anyways? Autism is not one disease. Autism is a spectrum. Autism is simply put "mental problems". Retarded. Idiot. Cretin. But the real cause are questionable, because it could be multiple factors. It could be because mommy smoked while pregnant or took a couple BBC with herpes on them. It could be a botched birth, where they damaged the brain's baby. Or dropped him on its head. It could be a bacteria, a virus (i.e. zika virus), a fungus. It could be because of poisoning with heavy metals (that are found in vaccines, like thimerosal, which is mercury), that go to the brain and impedes the normal development. It could be genetic, but if the parents are alright and we have skyrocketing numbers of autism in the last couple decades, like 1 in 30, you must be retarded not to suspect foul play before genetics. Saying "vaccines don't cause autism" is dogmatic, cultic or religious. It doesn't have any nuance of science or logic in it.>>32224156just move in a rural area. despite they are primitive and unsophisticated, people are all white and peaceful. Public schools are free. I truly believe that if you homeschool your kids (with the exception of being on a farm, and even that is debatable), you're doing them harm. You keep them out from society. Nothing beats a free white only public school. The one size fit all fits well when all kids are white and similar in potential. And if your kid have potential, you can develop more, at home. It's not the public school system, not the school itself; it's the COMMUNITY. Look for a good community and you'll find a good school.
>>32227082>500,000+ Indian children get paralyzed from the Polio vaccine before India finally banned it>1 (ONE) person gets paralyzed from Polio while unvaxxed>VACCINES LE GOOD! NO VACCINE LE BAD!Retard
>>32224237partially correct. the thing is, polio didn't existed, or, if existed, it was on a such insignificant scale that it wouldn't even mattered.DDT poisoning caused the same symptoms as the polio. they banned DDT, polio was gone. they sold polio vaccine (mind you, there are multiple versions of the vaccine until they got it right, because the first versions would kill children), and they renamed the symptoms into something else.polio was the Covid of the last century. a flu with none to mild symptoms that lasted a couple of days without sequels that infected 7% of the total population and politicians mistaken it for DDT poisoning and got scared and mandated a vaccine and big pharma started selling snake oil to please the masses and politicians both. >>32224221Unfortunately you are correct. I met a couple and they were all primitive and retarded. 4chan admires them and their families and traditional values, but... they are still primitive people, there's nothing there. Lights are all up but nobody's at home. I mean, what's the point of a life like that, it's similar to cattle or other grazing animals. Not to wonder of the miracles of life, not to read books, see movies, interact with other ideas and people...>>32224268>dr. Andrew WakefieldI remember him. I read an article that "debunked" his work on the basis that the kids' parents were the ones who said their kids were autistic after the vaccines and the "science" required "experts" doctors to put the diagnosis, not the parents. The ridiculousness is astonishing. Obviously parents will sense there's something wrong with their babies. >>32224338I noticed this with the liberal publications as well. If you want to know what's going on, read the title and believe the exact opposite idea. i.e. Increase in crime linked to poverty -> read it as Increase in crime linked to welfare.
>>32224137Find out what ingredients they contain, their harms, and then do an assessment. Ignore any glib one sentence answers, especially those who seek to profit from it.https://thedailybeagle.substack.com/p/proving-childhood-vaccinations-are
>>32224168Actually clean water and health regulations actually did eradicate all of those. The only reoccurrence for them is because of third worlders and immigration into white countries
>>32224176Cute but I know a 18 yr old that just recently had both a downs syndrome child and her next child was severely autistic.Age is not a factor in genetic disease it usually the male that has shit sperm giving the baby downs and autism
>>32224237Cute but plumbing 100% eradicated almost every major disease in the west
>>32224337Actually when you see the national avg for schooling it's only a very small percentage of public school kids ever going on to college.It's either private or homeschooled kids going to uni
>>32224342Vaccines are useless why does a baby need 85 vaxx by 6 months for extinct viruses anyway?
>>32224137>> I'm curious to see what /fit/ thinks.Then you're on the wrong board, this is /adv/ >> SIDS and autism? Completely unrelated. Autism is genetic. SIDS is from smoking, plastics and shit parenting. >> Safe and effective?Effective, yes. Safe? Well, as safe as medication can be in relation to the MMR schedule. There are of course some potential side effects, and some potential risks, but those exist with all medications. It really boggles my mind that the same people who get weird about vaccines, are first to like up for other meds and to do drugs from some random cunt on a street corner. The MMR schedule saves lives.
>>32224146raising the next generation of 4channers
>>32227261>Yes, vaccines are related with SIDS and autism.No they aren't. Stop lying.
>>32224342>The fear mongering and autism has everything to do with elderly wombsThere aren't enough old mothers to cover the explosion in autism.>and schools/parents enabling weird shit rather than beating it out of them.You can't beat brain damage out of a child.>>32227457They weren't Indian vaccines, they were vaccines funded by Bill Gates.>>32228872>No they aren't. Stop lying.Yes, they are. >>32228676>Autism is genetic.No, it fucking isn't. Children don't meet all their milestones and then suddenly become non-verbal because of genetics going bad overnight.>The MMR schedule saves lives.LMAO
>>32224137He'll be fine retard. Baby vaccines have actually been around for decades. The guy who said they cause autism is a retard liar. It's new shit like covid vaccines that you should be sceptical of.
>>32224177>>32224186I thought maybe these ms paint graphs were bullshit, but I painstakingly combed through all of them, sifting through the jewgle garbage and found them ALL to be correct. Thats fucking wild.
>>32224215Its also a matter of what kind of people will remain in that 500,000. Gray paste consoomer mongroids will be a far better product than any potential 130+ iq White man who could potentially subvert these plans.
>>32229782>No, it fucking isn't. Children don't meet all their milestones and then suddenly become non-verbal because of genetics going bad overnight.proofs?
>>32224137You're retarded if you came to 4chan to ask about infant vaccines. Just get them vaccinated, the autism rumour was just a hoax.
>>32229793>Baby vaccines have actually been around for decadesThe US vaccine schedule started being massively expanded by the late 80s, perfectly coinciding with the explosion in autism and autoimmune disorders in the millennial generation onward. Your parents and grandparents got a fraction of the vaccines you did.>>32230522Proof of what?>>32230684>the autism rumour was just a hoax.Nope. Heavy metals are not good brain food as much as you'd like to think.
>>32230863>Proof of what?of your claim that i quoted
>>32230880My claim that there are children who meet their milestones and then are suddenly brain damaged autists?
>>32230893yes, where is your definitive smoking gun link that the vaccines cause autism? correlation does not necessarily equal causation...you do know that right?
>>32230913We know for a fact that heavy metals damage the brain and we also know that your average vaccines contain heavy metals in the form of aluminum adjuvant, some with a higher concentration of aluminum than others (like Gardasil, the HPV vaccine). Several vaccines given in quick succession to anyone will inevitably result in a high concentration of aluminum passing from the muscle to the brain where they cannot be filtered by the body and cause damage and long-term inflammation, and in somebody in their formative years this is naturally going to ruin their normal development and create the worthless autists we're burdened with now. I'm sure vaccines aren't the only environmental factor but they're a major one that is overlooked because we've been given the falsehood that cutthroat pharmaceutical companies are generous humanitarians specifically when it comes to chemicals squeezed into a syringe and injected into human beings' arms and nothing else.Aside from that, we have numerous documented cases of this happening. The case of Hannah Poling is one of the most well-known.
>>32231110>Several vaccines given in quick succession to anyone will inevitably result in a high concentration of aluminum passing from the muscle to the brain where they cannot be filtered by the body and cause damage and long-term inflammation, and in somebody in their formative years this is naturally going to ruin their normal development and create the worthless autists we're burdened with now.again...where is your source that proves this?
>>32231197He's just some faggot whose either shitposting or fell for some shit some other faggot on the Internet said and now thinks he knows more about medicine than doctors. On the off chance he provides a source it'll be some blog from another faggot who just made it up
>>32231265yeah i know, i just wanted him to erupt and start namecalling and lose the argument. they always do when you keep pressing them on a source. getting asked for one is like their kryptonite.
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>>32224141>I questioned vaccines because of something unrelatedUhhhh
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>>32224214Anon. This is interesting but can you explain how the victims are funding all this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyvn3QR7BRk
>>32224158Any autistic child of mine is given straight up for adoption, or whatever means gets it off my hands.Not spending the rest of my life, best case, raising a failure, worst case wiping a retards ass for life.I already give the state >40% of what's rightfully mine. Their problem, not mine.
>>32224137My first kid just turned 2, got all the doctor's recommended vaccines except for one because she said it wouldn't be worth it (it was for kids that go to daycare, by the time they're old enough they're just naturally immune to whatever it is). No autism, still alive, and he hit an 8 word sentence around 3 weeks ago, plus grammatically correct.The pediatrician doesn't dump loads of vaccines into a baby, you'll get two max at a visit and they're part of a series (so the baby gets TDAP#1 at 2months, TDAO#2 at 4months, and TDAP#3 at 6 months, for example).
>>32224215>could quite easily eradicate huge swaths They do. Africa and India are places for human experimentation and dumping grounds for tainted drugs.
Gill Bates Shcauls Klwab Georgia guidestones type Malthusian leftists just want to depopulate the earth. Actually all leftists are just people who have a Malthusian view of reality, which is that needs grow geometrically (exponentially) and production grows linearly and we will run out of stuff. HerbertMarcuse who is the guy who basically invented woke leftism and intolerance for intolerance and free speech absolutism being bad and basically all of what we deal with today said that the population needed to be reduced to half a billion. They advertise leftism this away to attract everybody who thinks like this basically the most important belief of the modern leftist is climate change, that’s how they hook them they prey on this basal fear of surface level utilitarian idiots. Really production compounds and economically speaking we have more resources than ever before, there is no reason to fear peak oil now or in the near future and the oil industry leads investment in green energy anyway because they just want to expand their production of energy.The vaccine was just for indiscriminate depopulation or even perhaps discriminate because white people report the most side effects from it. They could have shipped sterilizing vaccines specifically to white areas or maybe it was coded to target white dna like the rumors that diseases designed to wipe out certain races were being developed in Ukraine which is why russia invaded.
>>32224137Infants don’t need vaccines. You can wait until they can at least walk.
>>32224137I work in a nursing home and I've seen vaccine deaths. Avoid flu shots, genetic vaccinations, and childhood vaccines. Most SIDs deaths = vaccine we don't know what else to say besides died suddenly, covid vaccine had adults dying suddenly. I am not necessarily anti vaccine, I'm anti toxin, heat killed vaccines are ideal don't let them inject RNA into your kid
>>32224170Anon you see good examples but there's bad batches, be careful they could slip mRNA into their childhood vaccines. Regardless oppose mRNA because it binds to the cell
>>32237476>Low IQ job>Not providing a sourceIf you listen to people like this then your children deserve to die of polio
