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>enby
>bf accepts that I identify as between genders instead of fully as a woman
>he says that since he fully identifies as a man, that relatively makes me the woman in our relationship
>try to tell him that his position on the gender spectrum doesn't influence mine
>he says we're going to be just a normal straight couple in everyone's eyes & asks me why I have to fight it
>found out he voted maga bc he thought I got groomed into being an enby

He's "accepting" but he doesn't seem to get it at all. He acts like my gender identity is something I got brainwashed into doing when I've wanted to be non-binary as long as I understood there was a difference between men and women.

I'm concerned about the future of this relationship. Can it really go on when we fundamentally don't understand one another?
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you're mentally ill and probably pretty low intelligence. but, then so is your bf for not just telling to to fuck off and buy some rope so theres that
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>>32307114
Enby is not a thing. Gender is not a thing. Only sex exists. And your sex is female
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>>32307114
So what makes you "enby" and not a woman? Blue hair? Medium length haircut?
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>>32307147
This is true.
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>>32307114
>I've wanted to be non-binary
>I'm concerned about the future of this relationship. Can it really go on when we fundamentally don't understand one another?
You're not non-binary. You're mentally ill and you're going to let it ruin your relationship. Being an "enby" is more important to you than your boyfriend, just break up with him now and spare both of you the hassle.
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>>32307114
You know what i don't get? The whole "i don't get it". He gets it, he just doesn't agree with it, there's a big difference
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>>32307139
I have autism but I've made sure to work hard academically to make up for where that would bring me hardships in life.
>>32307147
>>32307189
I have to ask, do you all think that enby is entirely invalid or is it just that you don't believe I'm an enby? I might follow your advice and break things off, its just hard because our dating anniversary is soon and it feels like a mean time to dump him.
>>32307199
That's very true. I've had the same feeling a few times, that he was just being intolerant, but I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt
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>>32307365
>I have to ask, do you all think that enby is entirely invalid or is it just that you don't believe I'm an enby?
I'm going to go in depth in this, enby is invalid, being transgender is invalid, etc. there's two sexs male and female, man and woman. you are whatever you're born as male or female. you can't change, biology doesn't work that way. if someone digs up your bones hundreds of years from now they'll say you were a woman, a female, because of how your hips and bones are shaped. hell even your cells have XX chromosomes, no amount of hormone therapy can change that (not that you're taking any, idk). also no you can't bring up the argument "oh some people are intersex". then that just makes them whatever their genetics present them as, or that makes them look like. it's not rocket science. people say it's a mental illness because it is, I call it a "social contagion", in fact if you or anyone else never heard about non-binary gender or transgender, you wouldn't be like this. you'd just be a tom-boy or a tom-girl. which is fine. the main reason this gender shit is so terrible is because it attacks the man-woman nuclear family, all societies run on the nuclear or extended families and when you have people taking hormones for how they feel that make them permanently incapable of having children. then yes it's an attack on the nuclear family and society as a whole. an ideology that subverts the very foundations of society, truth, and reason. quite frankly it's of the devil, evil, and should be destroyed.
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>>32307413
Good post but you could even just shorten it down to you are forcing other people to deny basic facts to appeal to you, it's selfish really
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>>32307114
Just break up with him
He's never going to respect you
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>>32307454
>you are forcing other people to deny basic facts to appeal to you, it's selfish really
the basic reality is the there's men and women. that's it. that's all there ever will be, everyone who says otherwise is mentally ill and should be helped understand the truth
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>>32307114
Exactly what do you think makes you so "not like the other girls" that you're a magical third gender? Do you think that other women think about makeup and unicorns all day? You are just a self-hasting autist wanting to be special.
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>>32307413
>and when you have people taking hormones for how they feel that make them permanently incapable of having children.
To be fair the only lunatic I know who goes by "they" and got "their" tits chopped off has been in and out of hospital for years due to cutting their wrists, makes up a new mental illness or physical illness diagnosis every other week, and definitely shouldn't have children so I can't say that's a bad thing
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>>32307365
non of this mentally ill tranny shit is "valid". this retardation is simply the end result of midwit normies who were fed this bullshit "hurr accept everyone, everyone is equal dont be mean durr" indoctrination from kindergarten to adulthood sharing online space with mentally ill retards and delusional faggots with fucked up fetishism and normalizing it and bringing it irl. giving the general population unfettered access to the internet is the third biggest fuck up in human history behind giving women voting rights and stopping Hitler
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>>32307365
>I have to ask, do you all think that enby is entirely invalid or is it just that you don't believe I'm an enby?
Both. And if you'd break up with him over it so close to your anniversary, he deserves better than you.
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>>32307114
bait
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>>32307114
YWNHAR (you will never have a relationship)
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>>32307413
I don't see how its the end of the world if I, by myself, without encouraging anybody else into it, choose to alter my body to align more with how I feel on the inside. I'm on on a crusade or anything, I just want to live the way I like.
>>32307643
I just don't feel especially girly or into feminine stuff. I like to play D&D with my bf and read fantasy novels. I just want to be genderless and free of any expectations that come from gender, I want to focus on my interests instead of what society wants me to focus on.
>>32307883
Shouldn't we break up anyway if he fundamentally disagrees with a core part of my identity?
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>>32307932
Just cut your tits off. Get the hysterectomy. Be free.
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>>32307114
Gender identity is irrelevant garbage and you're wasting your time thinking about it. It does not help you care for the people around you, it does not help you care for yourself, it does not help you navigate the world -- I have never ONCE heard anyone describe to me how trying on categories of gender like shoes helps them beyond ultimately boiling down to "I just like it". The fact you let this get in the way of your relationship is proof enough it is a problem.
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>>32307932
>I just want to be genderless and free of any expectations that come from gender
This is literally only because of your autism (trannies and gender ideologues like you are FAR more likely than the general population to be autistic). You see the world as defined by labels, and think that changing labels will change what they refer to.
Somebody calling you a woman (because you are a woman) doesn't impose some magical compulsion on you to act differently than you'd act otherwise. And conversely, you refusing to call yourself a woman won't make people stop seeing or judging you as one. If anything, your insistence on a meme identity is what encourages people to take far more interest in policing your behavior than they otherwise would.

The vast majority of people would not give a singular shit if they heard of a woman who said
>I like to play D&D with my bf and read fantasy novels
Your bf evidently likes you and your habits.
But then, when you insist
>I'm not a woman because I like to play D&D and don't want to be told how to act
You're attracting negative attention from literally anyone who isn't a sociopath or fellow autistic enby/tranny. The former statement is innocuous. The latter is openly confronting people on the nature of reality and asking to be seen as a threat to their relationship with you (because you are rejecting what the relationship is even based on, that they see you as a woman) and the social order in general--which incentivizes them to put you back in line by forcefully rejecting what they see as socially corrosive, selfish insanity.

To recap, 2 things:
1. Other people don't control you. You want to do nerdy or "non-girly" things? Do them. Nobody can stop you.
2. You can't control how other people see you. You can influence their perceptions with your behavior, but that's all. Adopting a label won't make them treat you as you think the label should be treated.
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>>32307114
You aren't prepared to accept that you are objectively wrong because you subjectively feel correct.

You know about as much what it feels like to be a male as I know what it feels like to be a squirrel.

I don't say this to be an asshole or to invalidate whatever belief system you have of how you see yourself, but the objective reality of the world doesn't owe you a favour.

You are female. You are heterosexual. That's it. And for someone so unnerved by being labelled, you sure do have a bunch for yourself. It sounds more like you're immature and bored, and have cultivated this LGB enby nonsense as a means to feel unique and special and twinkly sparkly awesome in your rainbow brigade. You're a straight girl with self inflicted friendly fire extra steps of self labelling.

I don't owe you my audience participation, and the sooner you realize that the whole of the world just doesn't care about what you think about yourself, the healthier, the safer, and the happier you'll be. No one owes you their praise for your heckin valid intersectionality identity crisis politics. You're a straight girl and a bad girlfriend.
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>>32308004
Probably one of the best and neatest explanations of this entire phenomenon I've ever read. Can I ask where you developed this from?
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>>32307973
Yeah, OP, the solutions to your problems is just like, don't think about it! Ignore it!
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>>32308623
Thanks, but I can't point to one specific source off the top of my head. The main thing that clicked for me, though, was learning how high the coincident rate of autism is with gender identity stuff.
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>>32307114
thanks for asking this question, it made me realise what sort of people lurk this board.
Fuck them, every single one. If you feel not being a gender then whatever.
Let me be straight about it: i don't get the gender thing altogether. i have a dick and i identify as a man. At the same time, i never *felt* like a man, nor like a woman. it' not something you can feel like a sensation of a color red or emotion of grief. so i'm generally against turning gender into a spectrum. That being said i couldn't give even half a fuck here and if you do feel and think different and if it makes you happy or satisfied to consider yourself as nonbinary, then by all means do so and have everybody else fuck off, it's not their goddamn business.

your bf has the same mentality as all the incels itt. he very clearly does not accept your view of yourself, he is straightforward lying to you.
Why? well, he's probably afraid of what other people would say about it. So he considers their opinion more important than yours.

In fact, he probably doesn't consider your opinions valuable at all. That's what i believe is the true problem here and i don't think it's changeable.

>I just don't feel especially girly or into feminine stuff. I like to play D&D with my bf and read fantasy novels. I just want to be genderless and free
not entirely sure if that's a valid reason to reject a gender but again, whatever.

i recommend asking this question on /lgbt/, where you can talk to people who are actually friendly and also more knowledgeable
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>>32308700
Ah, the classic "anti-anti-communist".
You won't outright advocate any insanity, you'll just sit on the sidelines and reflexively attack anyone who has a problem with it.
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>>32307114
Shit that didn't happen: that.
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>>32308735
that's called liberal, bro. I live my own way and don't impose it on others. And if they come to impose their way on me all they receive is my aggression. really fucking simple
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>>32308817
Individualist strategies always lose to collectivist ones.
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>>32308825
yes
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>>32308817
Weak, sniveling, tough-LARPing Redditor. YWNBAW

>I recommend asking this question on /lgbt/, where you can talk to people who are actually friendly and also more knowledgeable
You mean talk to groomers who will parasitize her and spread their self-destructive philosophy so she can get worse? Yeah, that'll sure help.

Please see >>32308156
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>>32308927
not reading your apologies, sad faggot
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>>32307413
>you can't change,
There's literally thousands of clips showing males dancing in a clearly female form online lol. You guys are just butthurt that these dudes are defecting to the other side instead of aligning with your goals
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>>32308987
You are a parasite and a predatory death cultist who only seeks to take advantage of the weak and vulnerable. If were this girl's father, I would have you feeding a herd of swine.
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>>32309054
bro, your schizophrenic cope is actually mildly entertaining
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>>32307932
OP was plausible, this is simply sludge bait.



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