>alcohol and weed>brain happy but body sad>no alcohol and no weed>body happy but brain sadGenuinely, what can I do so I'm not destroying my body and mind every day with toxic substances? Just using weed is not an option; the primary reason is that I'm Catholic and weed use in and of itself is a mortal sin in the Church, but also weed lowers my inhibitions to other degenerate behaviors. And don't give me bullshit about "healthy coping mechanisms" either. I exercise in some form or another (lifting, running, boxing) almost every day. I have friends I talk to, I have hobbies, I have a career. But nothing fills the void and all I want to do is be numb and slip into oblivion.
Best thing you can do is pick 1 of those vices and take a break for a while. See how you feel without it and test your will power.They are both pretty harmless, desu unless they are getting in the way of your goals. You should be able to assess that better on a break.I agree that body feeling good and better sleep are good motivators to stay sober, try to enjoy those and replace the time spent with your other productive hobbies.
>>32329331>They are both pretty harmlessThe way and amount I drink are far from harmless. When I'm on a bender I can drink two handles (3 liters) of the hard stuff plus multiple six packs in a week. My ideal would be to get to a place where I maybe have a few drinks for a buzz on Friday and Saturday but right now I'm literally fighting the urge to get near blackout drunk and twisted with weed on top of that, every day.
i don’t touch thc anymore. used to smoke all day every day. i only drink 1-2 days a week max. most weeks none. many weeks one night. if there’s a big party or something 2 nightssounds like you like getting fucked up. i used to be like that. i got better friends. now i like hanging out with them. and alcohol can help it sometimes but isn’t needed
>>32329220See if you can find a Chinese florist and eat poppies. That shit will make you faster and smarter and happy.
>>32329376>sounds like you like getting fucked up. Yes I do>i got better friends.It's not my friends. Most of my current friends don't know I smoke weed or know but don't smoke with me. Pretty much everyone in my family smokes daily but I don't live with them, I live across the country from them and only see them like three or four times a year so they're not the problem.At the end of the day I don't really know why I like getting fucked up. Nothing is terribly wrong with my life. I had a physically and verbally abuse dad but so what, big deal, plenty of people get hit and yelled at as a kid or watch their dads beat their moms and they don't become alkies. My asshole father isn't in our lives anymore and everything is actually going well. I had a bad breakup but that was last year, and again plenty of people go through much worse breakups (my brother almost caught a rape charge after a bogus accusation from his last ex)So what the fuck am I trying to numb?>>32329392Like poppy flowers or poppy pods? I'm not trying to replace one bad habit for another.
>>32329364I wouldn't worry about it, you sound young. Ever been arrested for drinking? DUI? Lost a job? Dropped out of school? Ever faced any real consequences for your binging? Hopefully the answer is no and be thankful it hasn't gotten to that point.My advice would be to seek a routine and stop worrying about going cold turkey, just build healthy habits and focus on less escapism.
>>32329364Have you tried weed without alcohol? It's not great but at least it's not going to destroy your liver.
>>32329613>I wouldn't worry about it, you sound youngI'm 32 and have been drinking on and off like I've described for over a decade now>Ever been arrested for drinking? DUI? Lost a job? Dropped out of school? Ever faced any real consequences for your binging?I've never faced any civil, legal or career consequences. Closest is that my ex cited my heavy drinking habits as a reason why she wouldn't consider reconciling with me after we broke up (the inciting incident for the breakup was a different but related reason). I also got quite fat from drinking all the time, even when I stuck to just hard liquor.>My advice would be to seek a routine and stop worrying about going cold turkey, just build healthy habits and focus on less escapism.It's hard though, my ideal routine is not very stimulating under the best circumstances and by necessity I spend a lot of time by myself.>>32329628I mentioned in the OP that recreational weed usage is against my church's (Catholic) beliefsAnd I used to have days when I'd smoke without drinking but I just can't for some reason anymore, just getting high isn't enjoyable and I need alcohol to "ground me" when I'm smoking so I don't wig out.
>>32329658Can't you just ask Jesus to take away your temptation and say 50 hail maries or something?
>>32329658>I mentioned in the OP that recreational weed usage is against my church's (Catholic) beliefsHave you considered that belief is retarded and harmful? Weed is safer than alcohol in every measure.
>>32330637>t. angry stonerAnd you know what's safest? Staying sober and not fucking up your liver with ethanol or your brain with THC.There's always someone like you that comes out of the woodwork to feel secondhand indignation, God forbid anyone point out that smoking pot still has negative side effects.I know it's fucking Kur-onions-gesagt but still: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBRaI0ZeAf8It's also not like the church encourages binge drinking either. Getting drunk is also a sin - yeah I've had drinks with my parish's priests at feast day dinners and such but we don't get hammered. You're allowed to catch a buzz on special occasions but you're not meant to get smashed every day. Not to mention, wine's medicinal benefits have been documented since ancient times and modern science corroborates that.
>>32330687Sober is actually less safe if your quality of life is diminished.>Not to mention, wine's medicinal benefits have been documented since ancient times and modern science corroborates that.This is extremely questionable. The evidence for weed's medical benefits is far greater in quantity and quality.
>>32330711>Sober is actually less safe if your quality of life is diminished.Cope>This is extremely questionable. The evidence for weed's medical benefits is far greater in quantity and quality.I'll take over 5 millennia of human experience written with no ulterior motives over modern "studies," most of which can't be replicated and are therefore scientifically invalid, that support a multibillion dollar industry. But that's just me
>>32330750>CopeI was completely sober for 2 years and my life improved when I started weed again.>I'll take over 5 millennia of human experience written with no ulterior motives over modern "studies," most of which can't be replicated and are therefore scientifically invalid, that support a multibillion dollar industry. But that's just meThat is foolish. Your own experience tells you that alcohol is hurting your body.
>>32329220Be happy while soberD'uh.Fix life problems >all I want to do is be numb and slip into oblivionDon't want that, then.
>>32329331Genuinely bad advice, using one is almost certainly going to be a trigger for the other.>>32329220You have to try and identify why you’re using substances to numb yourself in the first place. Figure that out and you can start resolving those issues instead of avoiding them.
