don't get laid enough? don't get laid at all? wife/gf being a bitch? you have women problems, i might have answers. brief resume:>body count is probably not 1000, but well above 750. stopped counting after 150 (c. 2010)>aesthetics are unremarkable. i am neither ugly, nor attractive. i am just about average height (5'-10"). i have lower than average bodyfat and higher than average muscle mass.>no special education - have a high paying job that puts me on the road 3 weeks out of 4I am not recommending being a manwhore to the extent that I am, but if you are having woman woes I'd rather give you some seasoned advice than watch you spiral into inceldom. i wfh today and my work load is light, tell me your problems anon and i'll see what i can do.
>>32332231>body count is probably not 1000, but well above 750. stopped counting after 150 (c. 2010)Bait used to be believable
>>32332231I land woman fine but only ever via dating apps. Girls I genuinely like and think are hot and smart and cool always end up turning me down in the end and then I get stuck with just okay girls, date them, grow unsatisfied and break up. How do I get a genuinely sexy, intelligent, mentally sound girl to stick around?
>>32332231>body count is probably not 1000, but well above 750.You've got problems of your own
>>32332267it is not unreasonable to have doubts>>32332307hence the not recommending being a manwhore part. it is unlikely i will ever be able to settle down permanently - i sacrificed my ability to pair bond once i tasted variety>>32332286interesting. most men struggle with dating apps, and i do not recommend them, although i have a few friends that have actually gotten married off bumble (no other successes that im aware of on any other dating app). besides being attractive to you, what can you tell me about the girls that turn you down? i.e. are you of equal age, and corollary to that - how old are you? are you in a major city? etc. girls in the most desirable age bracket (18-25) have a practically infinite number of potential mates, which makes them flakey. age gap actually is an advantage imo, esp. when it comes to having resources and some stability, which must be balanced out elsewhere... have you ever taken them on a date? or does the conversation die before you actually meet them?
>>32332354Long post I coming.Basically started using dating apps when I was 18, its really the only way I've ever met women. Now 28. I've lived in Los Angeles, DC, Seoul, and Tokyo over the last decade and results vary by country but obviously as a white man Asia is easier.I've been with about 40 girls, had 5 GFs, and been on easily hundreds of dates in that time, and I can honestly say only 4-5 girls I have ever truly fallen for and most never went past a first date lol.The girls that turn me down are always:>Seemingly mentally stable>Attractive, objectively/conventionally >Intelligent >Have a bunch in common The only thing I can identify that I may be doing wrong with these girls is I am quickly attached to how well it's going and I open up a bit. I think I come on too strong too quickly and I'm not retarded im not telling them I fucking love them or anything on a first date but sure I tell them I like them and would love to see them again, and apparently that scares girls off. Or at thats how it feels, it feels like showing any actual interest or attraction to a woman sends them packing.Meanwhile girls that become OBSESSED WITH ME>Trauma/baggage/bad past relationships >Insecure >Boring, simple, even dumb>NeuroticI've had girls tell me they loved me on the first date and try to jump off my balcony when I turned them down on the second date. a girl who swore she loved me date me for a year, accuse me of being gay and ghost me, only to bawl her eyes out when I cut it off. I've had a slee of not we dramatic but insanely simple, NPC, BORING ass girls who think I'm the greatest thing that ever happened to them. It's just weird. You'd think mutual interests, values, Attraction, stability, etc would be the match, but no. Girls at my station or above never give me the time of day so I always end up settling for girls beneath me, which either results in my own dissatisfaction and leaving, or them going insane and me being forced cut it off. Shit sucks
Have you ever had sex with a NON paid female within 30 minutes?
>>32332542lol yes, but i don't use prostitutes fyi.one of my favorite stories, this was c. 2010 so i was hitting my stride pretty hard. "formal" event, bumped into this girl on accident moving through this raging party. i was tipsy and she was a teetotaler. she's 18, i'm 22. she's totally sober. shes giving me fuck me eyes, feeling up my arms, rapid blinking. she said something about how strong i must be and i scooped her up and carried her up a flight of stairs to my room and fucked her. kind of gambled that she would be okay with that, but the way she was laughing as i carried her i knew it was a done deal. she left the next morning and i never talked to her again, sadly. one of the tighter pussies i've ever fucked.>>32332526follow up post incoming with my thoughts
>>32332526>I am quickly attached to how well it's going and I open up a bitso a good metric to follow is return 1 for every 2 she gives you. she needs to never think that you like her more than she does. its a weird value thing that they calculate - a needy man doesn't have many options, and if he doesn't have options why am i with him? without physically observing you, i can't say for sure but there may be an element of neediness that they're sensing when you do this. don't take that the wrong way, its not a set in stone observation, because things are very much complicated by the psychology of dating apps.i'm going to strongly recommend that you not use them anymore. i do not - at all - and here is why: when online dating was in its infancy (POF and OKcupid were the only things around) out of curiosity i tried to figure out how to get online dating to work. so i made a fake girl profile with a REASONABLY, but not OVERLY attractive girl's pictures. i was immediately inundated with thirsty messages, to the point where i realized anything i did would probably get lost in all the noise. its definitely positive that you actually do get responses and dates - most men do not, at all. this means there is something about you that is attractive to females. that said, the selection of females on dating apps probably skews two ways - conventional/shy/boring girls, and girls who love attention (which includes insane women but i repeat myself). i strongly, strongly recommend chatting up girls in person. obviously bar/party settings are ideal, where a little bit of alcohol will go a long way to bolstering your confidence, but if you can translate the lackadaisical attitude that a small amount of alcohol will give you into your sober actions you will do extremely well chatting up random women whereever you find them. this is the exact method i use - fake tipsy confidence i guess i'd call it. now its 2nd nature.
>>32332231I have never gotten a yes when asking a woman on a date. I have never gotten a match on a dating app that was not blatantly a bot. I am 29 years old and have never been on a date. I am kind, funny, above average intelligence (based on my perception compared to others), well liked among my peers, have varied hobbies and interests (programming, reading, gaming, urbex, animals, anime/manga to name a few), can speak with women no problem and have had many close female friends. I still live at home (in an area where it's generally still acceptable due to high cost, but still), do not have a great job (security guard), do not know how to flirt, and am not very attractive, though I am 6'1". The women I go for tend to be about average looks based on what others say (I am a bad judge especially when I have a crush), their personalities vary but typically they are nerdy or geeky in some way. I've asked for advice from my peers, both women and men, throughout my life but never received anything more than generic things like "be confident" and "be yourself".I've been a hermit now for a couple of years, only going to work and home, so I've asked out less women than before, naturally. I'm considering trying harder again soon but I don't want to just keep beating my head against the wall, frankly speaking I don't think I have it in me to go through many more rejections without anything to show for it.What advice can you give me? I don't know how to meet women consistently, smoothly see if they're single, and as I said before, flirt. I'm looking for a serious, long term relationship that leads to marriage.Forgive me for an overly impersonal wall of text, it's the easiest way for me to talk about this kind of thing, this isn't a good indicator of my usual personality.
>>32332231Anyone who's gotten to that high of a body count must have done at least a few real ogres. I'd rather bang 5 hot women my whole life than 500 if half of those 500 were mid or fatties or straight uggos
>>32332804>Forgive meits fine, thats what im here for anon. this will take more than one post."be confident" is much better advice than "be yourself", but it doesn't explain much or offer a whole lot of guidance now does it?the most important thing you're going to need to do is learn how to flirt. your mileage may vary on how you do this, i don't recommend buying courses from "PUAs" or anything like that, but because i actually learned from watching my dad i've always struggled to explain my formula to inquisitive friends. it basically comes down to this: circling back to nonsense, blowing what they said out of proportion (cheekily, NOT in a serious manner), calling them out on something trivial (again, with humor, not seriously), getting them flustered. theres a really really good clip of i think that short chubby dimmunitive comedian something paxton? his wife died thats all i remember about him. and he's interviewing prime megan fox, and he trips her up in the conversation and you can see the spark of attraction light up in her eyes, briefly. go find that clip, it does much better justice to what i've always struggled to explain. theres also a really good interview from a long time ago of some australian teenager who gets a newscaster flustered when shes interviewing him about a raging, destructive party he threw at his parents house. i haven't seen that since maybe 2012 so idk where you'd find it. but basically, women are like horses - they're dumb but can smell your fear, and the moment you present aloof, but fun, fearlessness is the moment you open the door to attraction. just having a 1:1 conversation with a woman like you're playing tennis doesn't move the attraction forward - this is somehting you do with your friends, and you're not trying to land a friend, you want a woman. right?smaller notes in the next post, i can try to clarify anything you want to know about flirting if this is confusing to you.
>>32332904few small things:do not advertise to women that you've never been on a date. no matter how much you want to be vulnerable, DONT. its okay to lie.your hobbies are yours. i don't regularly indulge in anime, although i appreciate the aesthetic (i started watching demonslayer on a recommendation, holy shit is that animation beautiful). but you don't want to come off as an 'anime pro' kind of guy. the hobby that i advertise the most in 'getting to know you' type conversation is that i hunt. something about the brutal/savage/primal seems to work, but obv. that might not be your thing, so pick up a masculine or rugged hobby if you can't think of one. definitely, definitely, hit the gym if you aren't already, for two reasons: besides height, the number one thing women look for, physically, in a mate is a well developed upper body, specifically: shoulders. number two, this will increase your confidence and get you out of the house more. you need confidence, you need to learn how to flirt, and you need to be able to tap into the reality that every woman you see is a sexual being, with desires just like every man you know - only their desires are activated in ways that are totally foreign to men. sort of like 'to hunt x you have to think like x'. definitely, definitely NEVER say "what would I respond to" when trying to map out what to do. the only thing worse than that is asking a woman for relationship advice. don't do it, its not going to help.
>>32332837at first, quality varied, although i am much much more selective now. collorary to that is because i am in my mid 30s, the archetypical mom is way, way hotter than i thought when i was 20. i have no problem banging a woman in her mid 40s.but i'll tell you a funny story, speaking of ogres. hands down the best lay i have ever had was the ugliest girl i've ever been with. this girl had kind of a messed up face and an unimpressive body, but somehow seduced tons and tons of guys i knew (this was in college). her success was so perplexing that once, while watching her work her magic on one of my buddies, two of her (attractive) friends commented to me that they didn't understand how she did it. and neither did i, until she turned her sights on me at a party. i was minding my own business in almost the same spot where i was talking to her friends a few parties before when i felt fingers slip between the hair on the back of my scalp, and my ear was gently, but firmly, pulled down to all 5'-2" of this girl, and the most seductive, hypnotic voice in my ear said>its too loud in here, lets go somewhere quietand before i knew it i was down the block in her house, getting my brains fucked out. we fucked on the bed, on the floor, in the shower, on the kitchen table, on the porch. i dont think there was a standing surface that we didnt fuck on in her house. there has never been a lay that has come even close to how earth shatteringly good this girl was - and the crazy thing is that all the friends i've had that fucked her said the same thing too. uncanny. she's number one in my spank bank, and i would have married her, but she was only willing to give me one night and then she moved on...
