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Self improvement has never resonated with me. Self improvement content is a fucking joke your laypersons idea of Self improvement is beyond parody the juice isn't worth the squeeze whitepillers can just jump up on the internet and lie "oh let me type this monologue about how I totally turned my life around" how the fuck are we supposed to know that? anyone can lie and post feelgood bullshit like that. The hopium doesn't work I've never felt inspired or motivated because nobody is persuasive I need to be SOLD on the shit I'm being told but I've never met anyone who knew how to use persuasion (here's an idea for all you Self improvement faggots why don't you brush up on your RHETORIC)
tldr
WHAT EXACTLY am I supposed to be self improving on? don't FUCKING say shit like the gym or le career NONE of that SHIT aligns with MY VALUES I'm not SOME FAGGOT looking to increase my standing among other men I DONT GIVE A FUCK about STATUS and I don't have time your WAGEKEKERY either
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>>32340220
You seem to be angry, so perhaps you need to work on that for a start.
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>>32340220
You don't want to self improve.
That's not a problem with self improvement, it's a problem with you.
So you aren't convinced?
Cool. You don't have to be.
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>>32340239
>You don't want to self improve
SELF IMPROVE AT FUCKING WHAT?
Ok let's say I self improve (whatever the fuck that means) then what? let's say I get everything I ever wanted out of life let's say I beat the game (of life) then what? the concept of self improvement is arbitrary and subjective I don't want the perception of self improvement I want actual self improvement
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>>32340273
Work on your anger.
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>>32340220
Self improvement is done for the self. It's supposed to make you feel better about yourself and get you strong both mentally and physically. You don't have to self improve if you want, the choice is up to you.
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>>32340220
Self-improvement is masturbation, now self-destruction...
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>>32340342
>It's supposed to make you feel better about yourself and get you strong both mentally and physically
I don't know self improving for the sake of self improving isn't exactly morale boosting I think I have a transactional mindset when it comes to the whole thing like I expect there to be a day where a miracle happens or something like I'll improve to a point where a girl will fall out of the sky and start making out with me as a reward for all the blood, sweat and tears. Pop culture has really done a number on young men.
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>>32340220

First and foremost, the 4chan whitepill meme of improving is not actual improving. Actual improving yourself is a life long commitment to become a better version of yourself every day. It involves constantly learning new things, having new experiences, being involved in social activities, helping others, doing better on morality, holding ones self accountable, etc. It's something all adults do. Adults, not children in adult bodies.

The whitepill stuff doesn't work because it skips the important parts and just tells you to achieve outcomes that are a mere consequence of the important parts, but can be achieved in other ways without the actual results you're looking for. To improve is to grow up and become a man.

With that said

>> I need to be convinced
>> I need to be sold

Your mistake here is in believing you're so important or necessary in the world that anyone would want to spend their time doing so. You are in fact not. As someone for whom the message may apply you're amongst a group of people who are the least valuable in society. For many of you, your death would be inconsequential to anyone. No one owes you a life. Indeed no one owes you anything. Your achievements are a direct reflection of your effotts. If you don't wanr to do better then you are not the intended audience. Move along.
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>>32340220

>> DONT GIVE A FUCK about STATUS
>> I don't have time your WAGEKEKERY

I'm unclear of your goal here. What exactly are you trying to achieve here? If like many of the kinds of people who read [X]pill content you're an incel trying to find a way to get laid. Unfortunately for you there are no shortcuts and those things matrer. If you want to be a complete waste of space, that's your prerogative and between you and the person financing you (so long as it isn't the taxpayer). However if that's your chosen route, it's a chose route of celibacy because you would then have nothing to offer anyone (in a spiritual/emotional sense, not a transactional one) as you wouldn't really be a full person and thus there's no reason for a woman to want/choose you.

So you can throw a tantrum like a toddler if you like, but it won't actually help you in any way. So it really comes down to what you want, and what resources are inclined to provide you.

But none of us actually care about you. You really are not important and have not demonstrated any worth to us. See YOU are the one who needs to convince US normies that YOU are worth investing time and energy into. You do that through status and effort, both of which you have no inclining of developing. So shut up, sit in your little hole and live your misery. We don't want to hear from you until you're ready to grow up and be a big boy.
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>>32340364
>Self-improvement is masturbation
it's just not that exciting it's boring as shit to tell you the truth I've only ever felt motivated when the opposite sex gives me a crumb of attention. When I see my oneitis (don't even say a word just glance at her) that's enough to put me in a manic state of euphoria for days. Pussy is the ultimate motivator it's biology that's just a fact nothing comes close you can cope all you want about doing self improvement for it's own sake but at the end of the day your doing it because you want to get laid
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>>32340220
Just find something - anything - that you can work on and improve on over time. Could be art, could be lifting weights. Anyways, do something CONSISTENTLY and track your progress in it over time - weight lifting is super great for seeing progress because all you have to do is lift heavier and heavier barbells over time, barbells which are conveninetly numbered. Or you could drawfag like me and compare where you started to where you're at now.

But a caveat - progress is not always linear, you'll have set backs. But if you do something, ANYTHING EVERY DAY you WILL improve at it eventually
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>>32340480
Oh weight LOSS is also something great to do if you're a fat fuck - do it for your health. With weight loss all that is is NUMBER GO DOWN instead of wanting NUMBER GO UP
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>>32340480
yay more stuff I have to pretend to care about
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>>32340500
Eventually you'll care when you discover you have an aptitude for something. But you'll never discover that if you don't try
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>>32340500
What an awful attitude you have.
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>>32340273
>>SELF IMPROVE AT FUCKING WHAT?
Personality
Looks
Skillset
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>>32340509
I'd rather take a bunch of photos pretending to do something I would literally stage a photo op of myself pretending to do a hobby than do the actual hobby
>>32340517
no you're right I'll just phone it in I'll fake passion so much that I'll make other people doing the hobby psychically uncomfortable
>>32340535
>personality
you don't know what that word most people dont know what that word means. I have a personality I'm low on conscientiousness, low on openness to new experiences, low on extroversion, medium on agreeableness and high on neuroticism oh and I'm also a sperg when people say "HAVE a LE PERSONALITY" they mean be an outgoing, confident CHAD I'm very much not that guy the fake it till you make it thing will be disastrous IM NOT THAT GUY and NEVER WILL BE. I'm the type of guy who wears out his welcome and I intuitively know that people don't have a lot of patience for me which is why I don't interact with people I know I'll end up annoying them because autists are annoying we rapid fire questions, we pry, we're blunt which can be misconstrued as rudeness and we don't shut the fuck up (see infodumping) and also say embarrassing, cringy shit all the time. Ain't nobody got time for that it was never a social anxiety thing with me nor was it ever a confidence thing. I, unfortunately, am autistic which makes me inherently unlikeable and there's nothing I can do about it you can't improve your way out of autism you can mime and you can mask and try to pretend but that would be a recipe for suicidal ideation only reason I haven't unalived myself is because I'm a neet and I don't have to be around normies and play pretend if I were doing that I'd go postal
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>>32340583
>no you're right I'll just phone it in I'll fake passion so much that I'll make other people doing the hobby psychically uncomfortable
You're still missing the *self* concept in self improvement.
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>>32340382
Self improvement takes years. It's like building a business, it doesn't happen in a single day. It's plenty of sweat and toil, and even then you might fail.
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>>32340583
>>32340220
My brother, nobody cares if you self-improve or not. Do whatever you want. Sit around and never change. Never strive to be different or think differently. Hold onto your anger and bitterness until it shrivels you into a miserable old prune and kills you of a sudden brain aneurysm in the tub. The world will not notice either way.
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>>32340754
>My brother, nobody cares if you self-improve or not
don't post in my thread then gay nigger faggot retard
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>>32340772
You truly deserve to be alone. Good luck fucking your hand for the rest of your life, you bitter loser.



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