It's all so fucking tiresome

>>32506930
How to Get Women to fuck off?

>>32506930
there's a girl i know who friendzoned me but continues to reel me in. she especially turns up the smiling, touching and laughing when i chose to ignore her IRL. she's also constantly texting me and if i ignore her she continues to text and in a cuter, flirtier way.

anyway she's maybe 3 days into a trip with friends and I've noticed that every time I'm away from her, i start boiling over thinking about how one-sided and retarded this whole relationship is as well how little she cares about me. Due to some circumstances i have to see her in person at least once a week because otherwise i would have evacuated before it got to this point of mental torture.

do they do this on purpose or what?

>>32507594
>do they do this on purpose?
Yes. They love the attention and hate that someone would move on from them even if they won’t ever say it out loud.
I dunno how bad your situation is with her where you have to interact and can’t just move on completely but i would just stonewall her where possible. If it’s not relevant work or otherwise nessecary interaction she deserves to be ghosted and everything outside of those niche encounters should be ignored completely

>Not being able to get pussy makes me feel fucking worthless
>women pick up on the desperation instantly and write you off before you even get to know them

Literally what the fuck is the secret to getting out of this? I'm literally satisfied by every other aspect of my life but I've been told by you stupid fuckers on here that it's an "internal problem" and that I have a "bad aura." How can that be the case though if I'm happy with everything but my apparent inability to get laid after my ex left me? I don't care what you faggots have to say, getting a lay out of a not fat and not ugly girl is THE thing that will fix me, but apparently I can't fucking get it because this universe is a cruel fucking joke.

I have borderline + avoidant pd. is it universally a bad idea to divulge this kind of info when dating until you really dig into each others pasts? As someone who has never had a real gf, I have no frame of reference on how they might react. I imagine it would scare most off, as I have about as many red flags as you can get.

>>32508233
>what is the secret to getting out of this
Looksmaxxing, which I now recommend as a way of living a dignified life in modern America, since if you're young, white and male, your best bets to make money that don't involve moving to another country are becoming a sugar baby or crime.

>>32508233
Because you aren't going to automatically get a relationship by having those. Even for the most attractive men out there, getting a relationship takes time, patience and a lot of bullshit. Women are hard to get for everybody

Is there an appropriate way to slide into dm’s without seeming overly forced?
Or is that just a reality I’m gonna have to accept

Have the dating apps gotten worse for you guys?
I feel like they’ve gotten worse I used to get dozens of likes in matches over the course of a day or two and now barely crack 20 likes to 3 matches spread out between all 3 of the major apps over the course of a week on a new account. Less attractive women too than before

>>32508929
I don't want a relationship right now I just want to fuck
>Women are hard to get for everybody
My younger brother, who is a registered sex offender (thanks to a false rape accusation, not pedo shit) and can't even have social media, managed to get a harem of like 4 or 5 girls fucking right after coming out of jail
And yeah he's fit but basically the same in face as me and also shorter by a good six inches

>I don't want a relationship
Doesn't matter. You are asking people to fuck you, so there is gonna be some difficulty in getting laid, though not impossible. Do you go out a lot/have friends?

>>32508989
>Registered sex offender
If he was an actual pedo he would have no chance. Women don't seem to care much about whether someone has comitted sex crimes against adults or other (non-sex) crimes.

Does he have friends/goes out a lot?

>>32509023
>Do you go out a lot/have friends?
Yes, I go out quite a bit, sometimes multiple times a week. And yes, I do approach women, but they all shoot me down within like a couple of minutes. If I do get a phone number or socials, I get ghosted 90% of the time, or strung along for a few days or weeks and THEN ghosted.
>Does he have friends/goes out a lot?
Not really strangely enough, and like I said he can't even use social media. He just meets these girls random places in his daily life, funnily enough exactly the thing you retards tell other people not to do. One of them works at the deli around the corner from my mom's house (oh did I mention he still lives with our mom?). That said he has tattoos and piercing and shit too which appeals to a certain type of girl.

>>32508953
Awful, just awful. I took a 5 year break, lost 50 pounds, became 4 million wealthier, Im getting a lot more swipes but the quality is ridiculously worse. Could be age, I’m almost 40 but I think it’s the apps. I looked up the ratio and it’s between 4to7-1. Just makes it terrible for everyone, even the women as it’s not a system to find wife material but if I wanted easy lays I’d be set.

>>32509169
Ok so it’s not just me then
It’s ass because 3 years ago I was actually doing great on the apps, but couldn’t really commit to anything because of work, uni, and my own cold feet so laid off, sporadically came back every now and again and it just gets worse and worse with less everything. Even some profiles I matched with multiple times before, even super liked twice by one girl, just went silent.
I stg I must be shadowbanned as well I am no burn victim and I’m using the same pics and prompts that worked before

>>32509060
>ghosted
How long has this happened for you? It might be that you just need to keep doing what you're doing for another year, or maybe there is something you are doing that is turning women off. Its hard to judge when I don't know what you do exactly, what you text, etc...

>Not strangely enough
He probably has a good vibe then like you mentioned. I'm against cold approaches, because I think most women prefer to be approached by people they know, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't work. Obviously if you did it enough, you would find something, but I personally aren't willibg to look like a creep for that.

Best luck to you man

How do I ask older women out?

There is this woman who I want to enter a casual relationship with. Right now we just met and she doesn't know I like her, but we have talked a few times, get along and I know her friends pretty much.

My current plan is to just message her and ask to take her out to something light like a coffee or whatever. Because of the age gap (I am in my 20's, she is in her 40's), I feel like it won't go anywhere, but that's fine, because another woman will come along eventually.

How do I make a chick understand she’s a side hoe without explicitly telling her she’s a side hoe?

>>32509331
One thing I'll say is that as much as the blackpill incel memes are wrong, they're right about one thing - as women get older they value stability and money more if they're actually looking for a relationship, even a casual one. Yeah everyone likes to read those headlines about the teacher fucking one of her students but imagine that's one or two cases out of the hundreds of thousands of female teachers there must be in the US alone. No offense, but you really have nothing to offer a woman that much older except for sex and companionship, so unless she's a nympho or already infatuated with you you chances are low.
That said, just ask her out like you would any other girl. Maybe don't just message her, actually ask her out in person and just use texting to confirm plans the day of.

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>”Just be funny bro girls love that shit”

>”Would you like to go out with me”
>”Im sorry anon but I don’t know if you’re being serious or not”

>>32506930

Why doesn't picrel have a belly button?

>>32509874

No one in the history of the world ever had that problem

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>>32506930
>asian dude at work has a crush on a white girl working there
>constant tries to assert his dominance around me and belittles me any chance he gets so he can try to impress his crush even though she's already turned him down
Nothing more annoying than a little beta thinking he's hot shit just because I'm being nice and amiable around him, what's funny is he can't even carry a full ice bucket without getting winded, are all asian guys like this?

>>32509891
Me yesterday

>>32509956
Just start actually putting him in his place. Clap back in very harsh ways when he starts his shit, especially if there are obvious strength and height differences between you two.

I think I've lost faith. After dating a couple of girls and it never leading anywhere since all of them want to "explore and learn more about themselves" just to en up datin someone a little after, I decided to take the blindfold off. It's me, it always has been and it will always be me. It doesn't matter how fit I become, how much I make, hkw much I put myself out there, how much I try to become interesting I always end up by myself...

Maybe it's not your case anon, but for some of us it is and I don't know how to feel about it. Some days I don't give a fuck, some others I wish I had killed myself all those years back. But more than anything I'm just tired of trying. My fuel is running out.

I sincerely hope all of you who try find success and those who don't, I wish you can be happy, honest. Me? I'll take these last days of 2024 to see if it's worth going on alone. Once you're dead it doesn't really matter anyways.

Good luck everyone.

>girl tried getting my attention multiple different times
>blew her off and acted like I didn't notice
Now she's pretty much not trying anything and I guess has moved on, sucks but I was too much of a pussy to actually make a move at the time, which was literally just like a month or two ago. Though to be honest she reminded me a lot of my ex and I developed some level of animosity towards her for that reason.

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What does it mean when a certain girl looks at me whenever I speak? Like today for instance, I started talking to another one of my coworkers and as soon as I started speaking she looked at my face, then looked at the ground a second later but still acted like she was listening in. She's done this multiple times before.

>>32510050

Nonsense. You've never even spoken to a woman and we both know it. That never happened.

>>32506930
How are you supposed to 'tease' women?

>>32510771
Uncertain but she might like you. But take it with a grain of salt cause most people look at the speaker when speaking

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Women are unironic chakra vampires that need human semen (soul energy) to survive, diagram of uterus is the image of apostelic baphomet, look it up, complete with horns and all.

When you have sex, part of your soul is being lost on ejaculation, think about it, you cum inside and the cum never comes out, soon enough it is absorbed by the vagina (baphomet devouring soul fragments), but how? It has no mouths, yet it happens. Semen is the vagina's (apostolic baphomet) preffered goyslop, without semen women (demonkind) dies of starvation, which is why women seek sex and always want you to cum inside for an 'unexplainable reason', part of the reason this happens is based on the fact there is no superior entity for them to rely on once their interior energy is depleted, think of it like a really big tank with only one mouth on it that slowly leaks out. They replenish their inner energy by absorbing it from men, because ultimately they have no souls which they can rely on to produce this energy themselves. If they do not get enough energy, they bleed. just look it up, pregnant women (women that have been cummed in and had their energy needs temporarily sated) do not have periods at all, nothing, blood simply does not come out. Yet a woman that does not have this 'suddenly' bleeds and feels ill for several days in a row with pain and weakness and bleeding. Normal?

>>32511236
>But take it with a grain of salt cause most people look at the speaker when speaking
True but it's usually only when I'm not speaking to her at all, just when I start a conversation with different coworkers, or even sometimes just saying hi or bye to certain coworkers, etc.

>>32511410
You want this girl to like you. You're making up stuff to think that she does, at least as far as I can tell
That being said, go talk to her, maybe I'm wrong

Honest question: If you were a halfway attractive woman, why would you settle for some schmuck when you could hang on and see if the 6'5 studmuffin comes along?

>>32508233
>Literally what the fuck is the secret to getting out of this?
It's right there in your step 1. Stop feeling worthless just because you're not getting laid.
>but I've been told by you stupid fuckers on here that it's an "internal problem" and that I have a "bad aura."
And? We were obviously correct.

>>32511897
>Stop feeling worthless just because you're not getting laid.
The problem with this is that women look down on men who cannot get laid. Women desire men who are desired by other women. There's a reason why some women get off on being homewreckers.

>>32511935
>The problem with this is that women look down on men who cannot get laid
Ok great, so stop obviously broadcasting it.
>inb4 b-but I'm not telling them though!
Yeah no shit, but if you put out the vibe of a depressed, down on his luck loser with a chip on his shoulder and awkward around women, they'll connect the dots pretty quickly. This is exactly what posters here meant by your "aura" being bad.

>>32510838
You don't and shouldn't until you have an established bond. Trying to tease women you have just met, or who you have a platonic bond with will just end with you looking like a creep

>>32511993
lol "aura"
You guys will come up with all kinds of cope to explain why guys can't get laid, instead of admitting that it's a complete crapshoot.

>>32511935
>The problem with this is that women look down on men who cannot get laid.

No, most women look down on men who make "waaah I can't get laid" their entire identity. And not just women, a lot of men do too.

>but how do I get laid

As you pointed out in your very first post, you are desperate. Desperation turns women off. So stop being so openly desperate.

>>32511993
That anon wasn't me but he has a point
>Yeah no shit, but if you put out the vibe of a depressed, down on his luck loser with a chip on his shoulder and awkward around women, they'll connect the dots pretty quickly.
There are so many openly thirsty and desperate guys out there who are objectively losers, who still get action because of completely superficial and shallow reasons like they have a tattoo of a band a chick likes, or they have a funny hat and a good hairdo.

And to compound things, I'm haunted by the shadow of my ex. She moved on almost immediately and basically laughed at my face at my attempts to win her back during the early days after she dumped me. It's like she was saying "Yeah, I am the best you're gonna do and I was right for dumping a guy like you, you're worthless to me and you'd be worthless to any halfway decent woman."
>inb4 cope about women being mental children and you just gotta ignore them bro
It was a child that finally pointed out the emperor had no clothes

>>32512019
>my actions and self-defeating thought processes are what drives women away and keep me from getting laid
>but it's all a "crapshoot" bros, there was nothing differently I could do!!
The cope is coming in hot.

>>32506930
Are dating apps dying out? The kind of people on them get worse every single year. Most women are stoners or looking for something short term and if I use filters I run out of profiles within an hour or so.

>>32512038
>There are so many openly thirsty and desperate guys out there who are objectively losers, who still get action because of completely superficial and shallow reasons like they have a tattoo of a band a chick likes, or they have a funny hat and a good hairdo.
Ok? So maybe you (and him) are losers without at least having the cool tattoo. What's your point?
>And to compound things, I'm haunted by the shadow of my ex
That's a skill issue my friend. Every man alive has stories about a bitchy ex. I have several of them, so get in line behind me.
Here's the secret though: just because she said that about you, doesn't mean she was right. It doesn't make her words true. Unless of course there is a kernel of truth to it and part of you is afraid she might be right, which would explain why you're so mad and "haunted" over it.
But again, that would go back to skill issue.

>>32512042
At this point you're talking to like three different people, dude.
As the guy who made that original post, I'll say "aura" or "vibe" or whatever intangible thing does play a factor, but as I mentioned in my response >>32512038 there also seems to be a lot of randomness to it. And yeah that's where the numbers game comes in, but I've talked to hundreds of women this year, got dozens of numbers, only to be ghosted or left on read or to get the old "I hope you find what you're looking for" texts after first dates.

>>32512042
There are plenty of fucking losers with major character flaws who have girlfriends and wives. The idea that they all have giga-auras is hilarious.
You need to rethink your whole philosophy.

>>32512050
I've been ghosted too anon. Every guy has. It's just part of the game.
Every guy you see with a gf is a guy who got ghosted or left on read or dumped or turned down by someone else before, and didn't give up and kept going until they found a girl that was much better for them anyway.

>>32512055
No shit, but they all had at least *something* that was a draw for women (or at least their specific women) that either at least offset their flaws or made her look past them.
So...what do you have?

>>32512066
How do you know they all had something? Are you assuming that every woman has perfect judgement lmao

>>32512068
>How do you know they all had something?
Why else would they have a woman then?
> Are you assuming that every woman has perfect judgement lmao
Are you fucking retarded or just illiterate?
I just described in detail how women will put up with a loser if there's something about him they like, extremely poor judgement in action, and somehow your takeaway from that is that I think women have perfect judgement.
The exact opposite of what my point was.
Some people on this board are truly too stupid to be helped.

>>32512074
You're the retarded one. You're trying to make out that dating is some kind of meritocracy, because men with gfs must "had at least something that was a draw for women".
Which fails to consider that the women erred in judgement, saw something that wasn't there, or were just plain retarded and tasteless.

>>32512049
>Here's the secret though: just because she said that about you, doesn't mean she was right. It doesn't make her words true.
I don't know man, one year of actual trying, with almost null results? Handful of first dates, with women obviously lower quality than my ex? Hard to see that she's not right.
And it's especially frustrating because I've never had it this fucking rough. When I was in my 20s, fuck even up until a few years ago, women approached ME. College was fucking tutorial mode, go to frat party, sit next to a chick, two hours later I'm fingerblasting her in her roommate's bed. Now they just give me looks like "Ew this creepy old dude is obviously just trying to bang me."
>>32512066
This is also kind of a cope, I have plenty of stuff going on and check plenty of boxes "on paper"
The truth might actually be that it's not something those guys HAVE, but something we LACK, because we're autistic weirdos

>>32512055
>>32512068
>>32512082
Not that anon either but this makes it even worse for me. I'm well aware there are a lot of retarded and tasteless women out there, and it just makes me feel like shit that even with all of them out there not a single one has deigned to take a shot with me because she thought I looked cute or something.

>>32512082
>the women erred in judgement, saw something that wasn't there, or were just plain retarded and tasteless.
Literally none of these contradicts what I said though.
Did I ever once say these women made a *good* choice? No, I did not. But you're too stupid to even argue with.

>>32512105
You're making a different argument, that women might choose a guy because he's goodlooking and suave, but turns out to be a shitty person.
That isn't my point. There are plenty of men who aren't goodlooking, successful, or even decent human beings. But they have gfs. Life is just fucking chaotic and it's pointless trying to make sense of it.

>>32512087
>When I was in my 20s, fuck even up until a few years ago, women approached ME. College was fucking tutorial mode, go to frat party, sit next to a chick, two hours later I'm fingerblasting her in her roommate's bed.
Of course it's easier to get laid in your early 20s, for everyone. How old are you now anon? If you're in your late 20s or 30s trying to hang out at frat parties or something I'd be very concerned, and I wouldn't blame the girls for having their guard up. Way up.
>because we're autistic weirdos
Well there you go, if you're an autistic weirdo of course you're going to struggle. Kind of a big detail to leave out though don't you think? I try to give you fags the benefit of the doubt but every time, you'll all just casually slip in some detail like this.
Of course you can still successfully date OTHER autistic weirdos but you need to stay in your lane. Not go after young sorority girls at college parties. Why not try online dating then? It was literally originally made for weirdos like you, just screen by whatever weird dorky interests you have and look for women that share them.

>>32512114
>There are plenty of men who aren't goodlooking, successful, or even decent human beings
No shit, it doesn't matter. I never said they were good looking, successful, or decent. I said they had *something* that that particular woman liked about them. Can you not read?
You're really just mad because you are ALSO not good looking, successful, or even decent. And you look around and see other guys who are as big a loser as you with women while you're not.

>>32512129
If they can have a girlfriend, there's no reason why I should not feel entitled to one either, therefore the only conclusion to draw is that chaos screws some of us other through no fault of our own.

>>32512137
Ah, and here we come to the crux of our issue.
No one is "entitled" to a gf. Not you, not me, and not any of these losers you compare yourself to.

>>32512143
I disagree.

>>32512151
Ok well, you're wrong. Seethe more.

>>32512158
Will do.

>>32512118
For reference I'm 32. And no I'm not still going to frat parties or anything, but I'll still encounter 21 and 22 year olds at bars and such.
>Why not try online dating then? It was literally originally made for weirdos like you, just screen by whatever weird dorky interests you have and look for women that share them.
This is shitty advice. It doesn't matter if a girl is a fat dork with glasses who says she likes Star Wars, for example, on her profile, she'll swipe left on all the guys who are wearing Star Wars shirts until she reaches the tall blonde swimmer guy that gives her vagina tingles even though that guy could hate Start Wars and make fun of her for liking it.
Actually nerdy girls are very, very rare and they're rarely single because of how quick they get snapped up by guys like me who vastly outnumber them. 9/10 times, fuck it actually 99/100 times, women that self identify as "geeky" or "science nerds" are just the same normie sluts looking for normie Chads but with an "I fucking love science" coat of paint. I have a STEM PhD and I'm a self-made aerospace business owner working on cutting edge technology, if "nerdy" women actually liked "nerdy guys" I'd be swimming in puss.

>>32512173
>Actually nerdy girls are very, very rare and they're rarely single because of how quick they get snapped up by guys like me
"Guys like you", so why not actually by you then?

>>32512143
"Entitlement" is earned or lost through the barrel of a gun.

I would recommend getting a hobby and meeting women in said hobby. Why would you wanna believe the lie of "opposites attract"?? You have enough to fight about anyway. Seek women with similar interests and you won't make the same mistakes I made in the past.

every guy who is in a relationship is a beta cuck who spends money on gifts, iphones and vacations just to have sex with a non virgin whore

>I know how to get women
>Am completely tired of even trying to get with another.
>All the women I meet just have all their morals and standards fucked up
>Even if they like me I know a relationship with them would be hell
I'm tired, guess I'll just focus on myself.

>>32512237
You literally quoted the reasons in your reply, stop being obtuse
I did recently meet a girl who was genuinely nerdy, homely but still cute and big wide breeding hips and a big butt without being actually fat. She's into Gravity Falls and Homestuck and doujinshi, an actual dyed-in-the-wool dweeb like me. But, even though I though things were going well and she was definitely giving me the "signs" of being interested, when I actually made a move on her she revealed she had a boyfriend. Again, she wasn't ugly but wasn't a stunner.

Even in places where you'd think it'd be easy to meet nerdy girls, like meetups and cons, but the dynamic is totally different. Half of them are wanna be streamers and influencers and don't want boyfriends, they want simps. The other half are just normies LARPing for a day, they watch one or two anime but are just gacha and kpop addicts who are otherwise turbo-normies.

I know instinctively I need to "find my people" but I really just want sex right now, I'm not ready to "settle down" again after how badly i got fucked up from the last breakup.

book by Robert Greene Art of Seduction
did anyone read it?
i'm interested in the "types of seducers" as the book says, so i'm trying to find one that fits my personality the most
the most "successful" interactions i had with the woman were not my initiation at all, it was more that the girl got me rather than me getting her, so it's more of a feminine trait

so do i become more manly and actually get girls the male way or do i become more feminine (not fruity but the way i interact)
does this make any sense or is it just cope

>>32508233
I'm sorry about the experience with your ex. I would recommend getting help for that if you haven't already. I hate to say it, but I get the bad aura thing. You sound deadset on getting your "Nonfat Lay" and it being your answer to everything, but this mindset sounds obsessive and narrow-minded. Ironically, I actually agree though that your solution is probably the answer to your problem, but only because after you get the sex you want, you will realize what an unbearable retard you've been about the situation, and how obvious it is that this was not your problem. You are lost in your pain, and people in your position are actually prime examples of people who turn into abusers, so fucking watch yourself. Pain creates pain. It's not your fault what your ex did to you, but your life is in your hands. Abandon this moronic thinking.

>>32511876
Well the thing is she was giving me a lot of signs in the past that she wanted to interact like once for instance I was taking out the trash and she loudly said "Oh my god is he taking out the trash that's so funny!" In a very sarcastic way but loud enough that I could hear it even from the dumpster, another time when I opened the back door for her my face and hers got really close and she looked down to the side and had a small smile on her face and said "thank you" really quietly.

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I asked a girl out to watch the fireworks together on new year, it's our first date and I'm a complete sperg who never dated anyone, she's very introvert herself and so am I, anyways I need any advices on how to break the ice and what are signs a girl give that she wants to kiss just in case so my sperg ass don't leave her waiting for it and she end thinking I'm a turbo virgin loser

>>32511886
The 6'5" studmuffin might turn out to be an autistic weirdo

>>32515963
tfw 5'7" autistic weirdo

>>32513116
you are a HIV positive faggot trying to sabotage heterosexual relationships

Why is it impossible to get a girlfriend? Why is everything that I do destined to fail?

>>32506930
Matched with a girl on Wednesday, we talked a bit, she suggests we should meet up, set a date on Friday, never heard from her again. Not a first flake in my life, but the other ones either came up with some excuse or simply unmatched without warning. Not cool

Why are these threads so dead nowadays? They used to be populated with people sharing info, updating anons on their own exploits, etc, etc.

>>32517218
The black pillers and incels ruined it that's why

She's down to hang out... then she added an 'as friends'
How do I flip this script around bros?

24yo here who has been a neet since high school. Well, not really neet because I work my ass off on my business, but it doesnt make enough money so I live on welfare. What can I do? I have a burning desire to have children, but I have no clue how to meet girls. going and getting a minimum wage box stacking job will give me nothing but spinal problems by age 27.
This is the year where I fix it or go.

>>32517362
Depends, has she actually shown you any signs that she's into you? Maybe after a little flirty at some point? If that's the case you might have a FWB situation brewing if you play your cards right, if she's just been friendly then she's not interested in anything but you and her being friends.

>>32506930
bros how the FUCK do i into online dating, I'm really good in person when I'm placed in a scenario with a reason for me to talk to a woman but starting shit out of thin air especially online is borderline impossible, doesn't help that I don't have or take good photos, I just got out of a 6 month relationship as well as loosing out on my side piece (thru no fault of my own) so no more sex for me I guess

I'm 6'2 ripped and somewhat handsome in a Jeremy allen white / adam driver kinda way

Have people who have found success and gotten a gf left the thread and board, leaving only the unsuccessful people behind?

Is going to an arcade like Dave and Busters to meet girls reasonable, or do they only go there with their boyfriends?

>>32517362
Just be friends with her and hope she has a hot single friend you can date

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>been talking and going on some dates with a girl for 2 months
>everything is going well
>asked her plans for christmas and suggested getting a hotel for some private time implying sex since we both live with parents
>she mentioned shes not down for that
>say ok we'll just take it slow
>its been 3 weeks and havent talked with her since, she hasnt messaged me either
How should i proceed from here?

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What does it mean when you slide into a woman’s DMs just for her to instantly screenshot, block, and post you on her story?

>>32520008
>e-thot thinks she’s the next Beyoncé
Business as usual. Ignore her anon.

>>32519688
I've had plenty of gfs, I for one come here (and to this board in general) specifically to help people and GIVE advice, never to ask for it.

>>32519820
She most likely got creeped out from your comment suggesting you two get a hotel room together, you probably made her feel like a hooker, I'd drop it and move on.

Holy shit I hate women
>Talking with a girl, super into date
>Set up plan to have a date today
>Ghosts me an hour before the date

First time I talked to the girl I like was at the end of the first half of the year. She doesn't like me very much I reckon.
Given this context, would it be ok to send her a happy new year message? If so, what kind of message would be the most appropriate?

>>32520008
I fucked a girl that did that to me. Minus the blocking. Was it worth it though?

No

>>32519815
That never works. They always try to keep the attention for themselves.

>Girls on dating apps that have some variation of “I’m not very active here, so message me on ig” or similar social media
Is the correct answer to hope for a match THEN get the all clear to shoot them a message on social media or just skip the waiting and go right to it? This part always confuses me

>>32518931
is this a zoomer thing or something? her saying "as friends" signals a romantic rejection. I don't think fwb actually starts out as friends, I think it's just the guy sleeping with the girl and not making it official. fwb is a cope from girls who know they can't or won't get commitment. also "fwb" is leaving the common lexicon and "situationship" is growing, just use google trends. situationship better describes this scenario, actually "sex without commitment" best describes it but girls don't like that language.

Contrary to popular belief women do make moves it’s up to us men to capitalize on them

>>32521483
>using dating apps
humiliation ritual level 1
>using dating apps to get leads on social media and trying to date on social media using dms where girls can immediately identify your place on the socioeconomic hierarchy (number of followers, number of photos with high status people, photos of economic indicators like private plane/house/car/clothing in your photos)
humiliation ritual level 2

I'd say wait to get a match, then go to dms, but it's also a recipe for the girl to get more followers.

>>32519820
did you already have sex with her before bringing up the hotel room idea?

>>32521618
I'm speaking from actual experience, I've had sex with a girl who claimed we were "just friends" and would even call me her bestie, in actuality, she was just mad that I ignored all of her signs beforehand, I don't know too much about the other anons situation but that's how it went down with me.

>>32520357
>>32521657
>did you already have sex with her before bringing up the hotel room idea?
No, I just read online that people use it as an option when both people live with their parents and home is not available. Was it a bad idea? I was thinking of sending a message after the new year. Things were going well up until that point so I hope it's salvageable.

>>32521483
They are not there to date, they just want to promote their social media.

>>32521638
They do but often times they're very subtle so the average autist has a hard time picking up on them, especially if the girls shy, some girls will get really cold and act like they don't want to speak to you if they have a crush, there was this girl I met who at first avoided me at all costs, would stand super far away from me, and be completely silent, never even making eye contact or anything, to her, this was an obvious sign that she was into me.

>>32522005
yeah it's definitely an option but you're also expecting sex when you do that, there's no plausible deniability for her when she goes to man's hotel room. doesn't mean it's over with her. it's not a bad idea, but you should've brought it up when you were fooling around with her in your car. you also need to figure out if she always takes it slow or if she's just taking it slow with you.

>>32521673
I don't think this is the norm at all

Should I use tinder/bumble when my pics are 5 years old?

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>>32506930
How do I get an emo gf?

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>>32522262
I forgot to mention that I'm a master manipulator, and in sorry, but it's not something I can teach.

>>32522504
Emo girls typically only go for emo guys, regardless if you look like a young Danny Worsnop or not, unless she's a poser, she isn't going for any normies guys.

>>32514173
It's quite intersting kitchen psychology but won't help you much. Real life is more complicated than pseudo-scientific stereotyping. You can find the book as a pdf.

Noticed when passing by women they'll ignore me until the last second then sneak a glance. Is this normal female behavior or does it mean something?

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>be me
>be at super market
>looking at some food in the coolers
>notice girl next to me wants to look at them too
>stand back a step so I'm not in the way thinking she'd stand next to me or something
>stands directly in front of me instead
>was so close I could probably smell her hair if I wanted (didn't)
>turns me the fuck on

I didn't think I'd have that kinda reaction, was there anything I could've done with that, did she know what she was doing?

>>32508953
I'm fuckin over apps, get one match bi weekly if I'm lucky then at that point you've got about two messages to successfully spin plates on your unicycle well enough and even then you can get ghosted once making plans, shit is an exhausting waste of time and I've been fully disillusioned, I'm not even fighting for the finest bitches around, I'm trying for fucks in my own damn lane. I'm done with it, finished.

I use rhyming pickup lines and lame poetry on tinder to get girls' attention. Should I try this IRL?

Is 27 too late to fuck tons of women

How do I find a woman into femdom lowkey

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I realize how completely cynical this sounds but I hear lots of young, poor, working class gets jobs as care assistants. Is it a good idea to volunteer as something in a care home just hit on them? I'm decently well off and picked up an impressive sounding job recently.

>>32524283
Most women are shy so they'll pull dumb stuff like looking at you when your back is turned and completely ignoring you when you're looking in their direction, but generally speaking it's normal to look at the person you're about to walk next too.

two related questions now that im thinking about getting back into dating:

1) how important is having an instagram?
2) if the answer to the above is important, given that i quit social media years ago (facebook at 2017) and thus have not much digital footprint since, what's the best way for me to fake my account into relevancy so that it doesn't make it seem like im a hermit?

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if I don't have a zoomer alt chick bouncing on my dick TONIGHT I'm going to be on the news.

>>32526601
Please reconsider. You don’t want to spend the rest of your life in federal pound me in the ass prison now do you?

>>32509885
Because it's lower than the tabletop?

>>32520829
It was when you were balls deep, but the post-nut clarity hit HARD

>>32509956
>are all asian guys like this?
I wouldn't say all, but IME they're more likely to be insecure, which leads to shitty 'assert dominance' behaviour that just makes them look foolish in the eyes of anyone older than 16.

>>32506930
Genuine question:
How do I know I got blocked on instagram and instagram isn't just being retarded?

There's this girl I got a big crush on for the last year and a half, first time in years I got such strong feelings for a girl. I built a habit of liking and favoriting posts where she shows herself off, including her instagram stories. She's a model, and sometimes even works as a lingerie model but is quite shy and has had some bad experiences.

Despite this we talk some bullshit for a short while sometimes and I was liking her posts and stories for months till yesterday she posted a little clip and I asked if it was her natural hair color, since she usually dyes it. She said no, she made it brighter. It was alright but today I can't access her page from my main account and only my secondary one, with the main account treating her profile as if it didn't exist. My comment also doesn't appear on her clip anymore.

What gives? From my view I didn't do anything out of the ordinary that I hadn't done before, so I don't know why she would block me, if she even did. Another reason I'm asking is that I've had similar things happen with pages before only me to ask the profiles on my other account and them telling me it was just instagram being retarded and limiting their accounts.

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>>32526709
just got back from the bar, it didn't happen.

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>>32527713
>even works as a lingerie model
>but is quite shy

lmao.
I fucking hate simp niggas so bad man. like you faggots need to die.

>pre military
>no bitches
>join military
>still no bitches
What do?

>>32527713
>There's this girl I got a big crush on for the last year and a half

You should have asked her out a year and a half ago dumbass.

I'm actually really quite confident and charming but I still struggle to seal the deal with girls in bars. What should I do?

>>32528385
These days, at least in America, it can be quite hard to pick up girls in bars/clubs. I think part of that has to do with culture shifts - on the one hand, everyone has become so paranoid about sexual assault that women don't risk flirting or trying to hook up IRL anymore. Another part is that hooking up has moved to apps and social media; why would a girl go out to get dick if she wanted it when she could just order it up on her phone like a pizza?
Also schoolers point about "meat walls" surrounding girls is actually somewhat valid, even if you have a girl that's into you, if she's in a group other bitches or guys she's with will run interference with her. I was just out last night and just my luck, the girl that was into me in the group we were vibing with had her brother with her and he tried to put on a tough guy act. I didn't want to get into a fight since my mom already has two other sons on probation, so I had to leave them be. If the friend group has a fat dyke in it you can pretty much forget about it, they're worse than other guys.
Finally, you have to account for the fact women are WAAAAAYYY more stuck up than they used to be even ten years ago. Everyone is terminally online, and these hoes have nothing but men gassing them up all day making them think their mid pussies are God's gift to the world. Fucking sucks.
Anyway this is just the situation I've seen in America, in different parts of the country. From what guys on here have said the situation in Europe is better, people actually still go to clubs to get hookups.

>>32528946
I would just leave America, for multiple reasons. Unless you're non-white, then you can stay. Please God, stay and don't follow me.

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don't post anything relevant here, there is some kike/nsa that lurks here to fuck you over.

I swear to god when I figure out who that cocksucking motherfucker is....

>>32528025
I was too busy for dating and she lived farther away from me back then, now she's closer and I barely speak to her, we just talk about comics and video games sometimes and I sometimes I ask her about herself. This just makes me even more confused and curious if she blocked me.

>match with some chick
>write the typical "hello, how are you?" message
>ghosted
I'm not going to write a novel to every chick with single basic picture. Is that really the ego boosting thing or what?

>>32511886
thats what im saying, i would rather die alone than fuck some ugly manlet that lowkey hates women

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How does one develop their social skills? I get tons of exposure especially through work but still appear and sound robotic. I also don't know how to flirt

>>32527799
I didn't do shit with her except chit chat a little bit once in a while and like her posts and stories. It's why I don't get why she would block me, its not like I had done anything out of the ordinary. Did this chick really do it just because I asked her if her hair was natural?

if a girl jokingly pushes you away, like very theatrically among the lines of this is too much, can't talk with you anymore

>>32530846
im stupid, what i meant was is that a good sign or a bad sign?

>>32530855
Depends on how theatrical it was. Women will soothe bad reactions and sayings through heavy amounts of irony and sarcasm.

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I've been in one FWB relationship so far, which was all that it was. She was crazy as she was pretty however, and I broke up with her soon after.
Now another girl has confessed to me. I don't see her in the same way, but we've been talking about our fetishes and fantasies for almost a year now, and I'm pretty sure I could leverage that to let both of us experiment.
Problem is, while I'm attracted to her, "sexual personality" you could say, I'm attracted to her neither romantically, nor physically much either.
We simply share a lot of fetishes and kinks, and I'm worried I could lose out on a chance to experiment with someone I know I'd face no judgement from.
I'd probably be too scared to do that with someone I actually love.
Should I try to initiate a fwb with her, or are there more possible negatives I'm not seeing?
[spoiler] captcha: 0akphd (Dr. Oak) :D [/spoiler]

So, I was at this lineup for a ferris wheel and there was this random attractive girl with her little sister who kept glancing at me. Every time I caught her eye, she would quickly look away. I smiled at her, and she smiled back, which made me think she might be into me. There was definitely something nice about her vibe. I started to wonder if I should try to be friends or maybe even date her, but I have no idea how to start a conversation since I don’t know anything about her. Has anyone else been in a similar situation? This is the second time it’s happened to me, and I really want to connect with people, but I just don’t know how to kick off a conversation with some complete stranger I don’t know without coming off as awkward.

>>32520008
It could be because you write like an Indian who downloaded Duolingo last week. Or it could be because you didn't even make an attempt to engage with whatever faux-deep poetry she reposted on her story and went straight for the killshot.

>>32528385
I've never managed to seal the deal as in take a girl home, but I have made out with strangers and girls I knew who I took for drinks. I also got a girl's number once which eventually turned into hanging out at her place. you just have to keep escalating. and get touchy, there's plenty of articles on how to escalate physically. then back off a little and let her do some of the work/indicate she's down. then you start escalating again. the key is always be increasing the tension (but be sure to back it off now and then).

>>32526914
Yeah, the other day he just kept leaving my orders on the side of the cutting board rather than putting them up on the wire hanging above the grill like they're supposed to, very lazily too, once he finished up with that, he walked over to the girls station, hung her orders up and even organized neatly organized them and just stood next to her the entire time, most of the time just staying completely silent, eventually I got fed up and called him out on it in front of her and he looked giga embarrassed and when he finally did put the orders up he said "Happy now princess?". Even then, he was supposed to be covering my station while I was in the back portioning some condiments, when I get back he's got three breads on the grill, all of them completely burnt because he was standing next to her just starting some dumbass conversation as per usual (i.e. simping) I yell "Hey romeo! *lift the breads* your breads burning", then tries laughing it off. Dude is super emotional and very immature, which makes sense considering he's only 19 but still, I've met other guys his age who aren't nearly as emotional and insecure as this dude, either way, I'm done appeasing this asshole, I swear betas make life way harder then it needs to be.

>>32530988
>FWB
>I broke up with her
Do words have no meaning anymore? FWB means FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS YOU FUCKING RETARD.

What are some date ideas to keep things going after the initial coffee/dinner date meeting them? I had some arcade dates and mall dates but I'm running out of things to do. Our hobbies are anime but no conventions going on.

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anyone got any general advice or ideas about how to convert a new years eve one night stand into a friends with benefits situation?

Some further details: She replied to my followup message today and said that she had a great time, around 8 hours after i sent it. I got it up despite being fairly drunk, and lasted a decent amount of time, but i dont think i made her cum. Before this nye we had hung out a coupe of times as drinking buddies, but never did anything sexual before.

>>32533517
how about a dancing class?

I've gotten like 5 phone numbers in the past month, and all of these women are incredibly slow to text back or don't text back at all. in a few cases they asked for MY number so there must have been some interest? but then we never get to make plans.

my rule is I text once, wait a few days, and text again in case they missed the first one (many of them are in a masters program so they genuinely might miss the first text due to their schedule). are women just harder to actually make plans with these days or something?

>>32509550
You marry her.

>>32534648
>are women just harder to actually make plans with these days or something?
How old are you? I was with one woman for most of my 20s and am now doing the dreaded "dating in your 30s" and I can' tell if I'm just older or if the game has actually changed that much.
Anyway you experience is about the same as mine. Women are too agreeable for their own good sometimes, they'll give you their number to politely end the conversation and then either ghost you or block you if you're crazy/annoying, it's too easy these days. There isn't a single woman in the Western world starved for attention thanks to social media and simp culture, even the fat and ugly ones have options. You really have to knock a woman's socks off to get her attention and actually get something going.

>>32533517
I mean you're not plowing her by the 3rd date what are you even doing.

>>32533048
Okay, "I ended it", then. I know what it means, obviously. Don't split hairs.

>cute girl likes me on tinder
>we match
>send her a message
>she either unmatches or ghosts me
Happened 3 times in the last few days. This is so demoralizing. I think they do this to ugly dudes for fun.

>>32533517
Your place, my man. Come on... Women like sex too anon.

>>32529526
You know how I initiated a conversation with the only girl I actually dated and fucked on Tinder so far?

I sent
>"huh"

And she responded
>"hahaha how do I respond to that... yada yada"

She either likes your looks and lifestyle or she doesn't.
Text game is bullshit, but still, stop with the "hello, how are you?" ffs. Come on man you can do better than that.
Usually women list some interests you can ask whatever about that.

>>32520008
>slide into a woman’s DMs
Replace that with:
>slide into a completely random and unknown woman’s DMs
Nigger behavior. Yes, she's a bitch, but doing that basically broadcasts to women that you have no standards and you'd fuck anything that moves and reciprocates.

>>32512114
>life is just fucking chaotic and it's pointless trying to make sense of it
Gigantic cope. There's always a reason why a woman picks a man. It may be something that you can't see from the outside, like he has a big ole cock, and yes that is enough of a reason for a woman. But there's ALWAYS a reason that puts the guy she picked above other men.

They're not irrational animals like your shut-in brain thinks they are. They're worse. They're very rational animals when it comes to picking men, they contrast and compare every man that makes a move or is around their social circle.

>>32512082
>which fails to consider that the women erred in judgement
This implies that women have the highest standards for morals and virtue. LOL.
They KNOW which men are the most respectful and virtuous, but they never pick men for those reason. When they say they want a romantic, caring, loyal guy, do you believe them?
Dude, what they say does not correspond with what they actually think and look for. This is women 101.

>>32506930
How to detach from sex dependancy and whether getting laid to be happy?

It's consuming my whole life pursuing girls and it's just worse when getting no results. Imagine a built, decent looking guy, but online yields nothing and ice done over 100 approaches with zero results. How do you find other things in life to enjoy?

>>32536261
You won't get an answer, the redditards that have taken over this board refuse to believe that you can check all the boxes and be putting yourself out there and not magically get a girl. It's all your fault, you're not doing enough, you're not going outside and touching grass, you're not being masculine, it's definitely not that society has become fucked and women are out of control.

I think my last relationship subconsciously mindfucked me into thinking women dread my existence. I have female friends that i have no problems talking to and they like me, but if its a girl that I want to talk to I end up feeling like I'm an indian harassing women and my brain just turns to static.

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“I don’t know”
“I’ll let you know”
Are these definite “No”s or am I still in the game and just gotta push a little bit more?

bros ive taken the pusy pill. i want pusy so bad bros. i need to get a girl now

I don't know how to handle slutty girls. Them being forward puts me on the back foot and makes it difficult to get with them even though they like me. What can I do about this?

>>32536378
its a "no, but i dont want to make you feel bad"

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>befriend a girl a few months ago
>become very close friends
>she's unironically 10/10
>i'm not even a bad looking guy but she's way outta my fucking league so i never even tried with her
>last few weeks she's getting insanely flirty with me, talking about relationships and shit
>pretty obvious she has a crush on me for some reason
>one of her friends tells me tonight out of nowhere that she's in love with me and told me to go for it
>chick spent 100s on me for christmas too
>at the the point where we're gonna get together
lads, how the hell do I NOT fuck this up, i'm absolutely terrified and i've no idea on how to proceed

>>32537212
...ask her out?
dont make it like a date, just ask her if she wanna hang out one day

>>32537220
we hang out constantly together but nothing has happened yet but its starting to feel like she wants to jump on me. i've fucked up with every other girl and i'm scared of doing it again with her

>>32537235
>we hang out constantly together
...alone?

>i've fucked up with every other girl
how so? try to look at her more and look for fun body touching opportunities
do it for me anon, i wish i had the chance u have

>>32537242
>...alone?
yes, we see eachother 3-4 times a week
>how so? try to look at her more and look for fun body touching opportunities
do it for me anon, i wish i had the chance u have
i have a habit of saying and doing the worst fucking things, like tonight i told her about another girl i got with and she just seemed to get annoyed. i just say the first dumb shit that comes into my brain. i was holding her hand all night tonight and when she left i said goodbye and had my hand on her face. she was talking all night about how we should just fuck off from everyone and make out somewhere

>>32537212
>>i'm not even a bad looking guy but she's way outta my fucking league so i never even tried with her
Loser mentality, ngmi with that attitude.

Genuine question, how do women react whenever they see a guy reprimanding or scolding another guy for being immature? Does it affect their chances of dating?

>>32537287
depends on the woman some of them would probably be turned on

>>32537287
the answer is that it doesnt matter what you do, if a girl thinks you are attractive then she will put up with anything you do
if you are attractive and you are scolding, you are mature
if you are attractive and you are being scolded, you are a carefree fun spirit and the one scolding is a boring fuck

if you are NOT attractive and you are scolding, you are a boring fuck
if you are NOT attractive and you being scolded, you are just immature and the other dude is right

>>32537305
correct. every woman I've ever been with has at some point said something along the lines of "wow (x thing you did) would have given me the ick if it were anyone else other than you doing it"

Can someone pull my head out of my ass?
A few months ago I got friendzoned by this girl in my friend group. Fine, I got over it, stayed friends since me see the same people so we hang out all the time. I did not simp for her if you'll take my word for it.
What's been bugging me lately is that we're kinda close now and she often plays around physically with me.
I'm sure she isn't interested in me or anything of the sort so is she just messing with me?

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Is it possible to ask out a woman that I have no connection with? By which I mean we don't work together, have no mutual friends and literally just met that same day.

There's a girl I think is pretty cute in an offbeat way that works at a local pharmacy, but the most we've ever said to each other is "hi" in passing or she's been at the counter when I've bought something. I sometimes wonder the same about some other places I've been, especially if I've had some decent conversation with them when I visit, but then I wonder if I'm just being an retard customer that has misinterpreted their being friendliness.

>>32536296
Well, I appreciate your reply anyway. I know this is probably the worst place to ask for dating advice for people that actually take action and cold approach, but idk anywhere else bar a tg group or dying forums where guys just gloat about lays or whatever. My only solution is more approaches I guess, as men we don't exist unless me make ourselves exist, unlike pretty women, which is tiring sometimes but hey eet ees wat eet ees

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>>32538001
Yes, this is cold approach, and I've done a few of these. Girls while working are the hardest, but if you can get them while there away from the counter/ stocking stuff you can just go direct or whatever your taste. But hey, if you're bold enough you can ask them out directly at the counter, it really doesn't matter if your a decent looking guy people will respect the balls, however it puts pressure on her and unless she's a confident woman she won't oblige you if there are clients standing behind to witness. Just shoot your shot, rejection is better than regret

>>32538006
It'd probably be during stocking, never counter. I just wonder what I'd even say; in my mind I just go with something like "I noticed you and wondered if you'd like to go out and get to know each other" but idk. Cold approach seems extremely difficult since the reason you're talking to her is just obvious that you think she's attractive, which might be offputting.

>>32538097
It's up to you but no-one can fault you for being frank while being socially aware of the unorthodoxy " Hey this is random/ cheeky but I actually think you're really cute" then you talk a bit, get to know basic life details then ask her out. He'll sometimes you can just skip the line of intent since asking out for coffee/ drink implies interest anyway. Many ways to skin a cat, the most important is you try. If there is no interest from her end she'll just day she has a bf, politely refuse, and that's it, you both go about your lives, end of.

>>32538109
Rejection is no bother to me honestly, I just want to get that initial ask right y'know? I feel like in my mind saying someone is cute and that I'd like to get to know them sounds good, but so do other retarded things in my mind.

I feel like I need a few examples or something, at least with shit like that I can take them and form my own things.

How do I get me some bitches?

>>32538149
Listen to Lil B’s Flex 36.

>>32538149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iidqikPqfOc

>>32537212
It’s probably gonna be another one of “normie anon just gets lucky” cases but how and where did you meet her and suddenly become close friends?

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>>32537260
>i just say the first dumb shit that comes into my brain.
Don't do that.
Here's three questions to ask yourself to help. Ask them in order.
Does this need to be said by me right now?
Does this need to be said?
Does this need to be said by *me*?
Does this need to be said by me right *now*?

>she was talking all night about how we should just fuck off from everyone and make out somewhere
And why didn't you act on this?

Listen, she knows you. She knows you're a dumbass who says stupid shit sometimes. Tell her that you you know you do and say stupid shit and love that she likes you anyway and that you want to make her happy but you're afraid of screwing it up by saying and doing stupid shit so you end up barely doing anything, which is also stupid.
Or words to that effect.
Act.

I think I just need to get it off my chest somewhere.
I met a girl in August, she was dating and kept going on all the time about how garbage her boyfriend was. Once, when she was drunk, she even told me he was bad in bed. Kek
We started to get close, one day drunk, I think on the same day that she told me about her boyfriend being bad in bed, she got angry with me because she thought I had sent a message to my ex. I said no and she was happy because she told me I was hers now.
I told her I wanted her to be mine too, she didn't reply, but she didn't deny it either. She got into a fight with me at the beginning of December over something silly like “My boyfriend isn't comfortable with me talking to you” and since then she's disappeared into the world.

Why are women so complicated? lol Why do they get stuck in a relationship that isn't good for them? I think deep down that saying that women like to suffer in relationships is true.

And it wasn't even about money because I have a lot more money than her boyfriend.

>>32538847
dont bother with women with relationships man
like, ignore her
shes a lost cause and fucking stupid

>>32538852
Normally I wouldn't even bother, but I ended up falling into this trap like a rat.
In the end I don't know what she wanted from me, probably just neediness or some way of making her boyfriend jealous

>>32538967
She wanted a magical cure for her situation. It didn't work out for her.

>>32539002
What do you mean by that?

>>32539059
She was unhappy with her bf and was hoping connecting with you would fix her situation ....somehow. It didn't pan out, likely because she didn't know exactly what she wanted.

>>32539121
What I find strange is that at no point did she deny or reject me lol I think she was treating me as an immediate replacement in case her boyfriend dumped her (she even had suspicions that he was cheating on her).

Thinking about it now, it makes a lot of sense to think that she only used me to make her boyfriend jealous or to fulfill some need. What a shitty situation I've gotten myself into.

>>32539166
it's called monkeybranching google it. a fairly common dating strategy especially if they suspect their partner is being unfaithful or planning to dump them

>>32539171
I didn't know this term, but I think it's something that every woman ends up doing. Kek

>>32539177
men do it as well but yes women are very prone to that strategy. it's prototypical behavior of an insecure person

>>32539182
It's an interesting thought, she was probably trying to do it, but at the last minute realized that she couldn't, wouldn't or couldn't break up with her boyfriend to stay with me for some reason.

Anyway, talking about it here has helped me get better, thanks anons.

>>32538119
Then go and just talk to her, if you're not afraid of rejection.

There is no perfect approach, you have to be true to yourself. Me, honesty is a core principle. I can't do subliminal communication shit. I'm not going to frequent the same establishment dozens of times, platonically conversing to build up rapport or whatever, but if that's you, then by all means, do that. Girls know what the fuck is up when you talk to them, so why not break the 4th wall. "Excuse me, actually I didn't need this product but I think you're cute/hot/pretty and wanted to talk to you" she says whether she's available or not. Talk some more. "Let's grab a drink this week" get the number or not. I've had sex with women I've approached directly in the gym, in the street, by the eggs in Aldi, you can't predict the outcome, just play to win, not to not lose.

>>32539209
glad you actually find some helpful advice in this cesspool. cheers.

>>32539663
>in the street, by the eggs in Aldi
Brave, what did you say exactly? Was it really as simple as "I think you're cute/hot/pretty and wanted to talk to you"?

>>32539968
>>32539968
Manchester, 2021, covid period and she was wearing a floral pattern mask but had pretty eyes, literally just went up to her and said that. Had a date with her that night, was worried beforehand that she'd turn out to be ugly as she wouldn't send a pic of her face "to keep a surprise" but ended up being quite attractive and was a fuckbuddy for a short while.

Yes, its that's simple, however rejection is part of the process. Before my stats were like 50-70 approaches to get a lay, even though I never could go turbo on approaches, recently I;ve been rejected over 100 times and want to fucking kill myself lmao however I literally have no alternative to date so daygame

>>32537988
>she often plays around physically with me.
>I'm sure she isn't interested in me or anything of the sort so is she just messing with me?
It depends on a lot of factors.
If she grew up with brothers, getting physical might not mean much to her.

In my experience and observation, when a woman has placed a guy into the "safe and non-sexual" category, the idea of him being affected by her physically doesn't seem to occur to her

>>32511886

Because as a woman your sexual market value steadily declines from age 20 on, you will be less likely to get a 6'5 Chad at 25 than 20, less likely at 30 than at 25, and before you know it you're a cool wine aunt who owns a number of cats that is dangerously close to double digit. But you'll also be less likely to get a manlet who hates women at 30 than at 25, so not only do your odds of finding Mister Thundercock rapidly decrease, but the quality of your backup guys steadily decreases as well until by around age 40 you suddenly don't have any backup guys at all, and the Chad Thundercocks in your age group will have no real reason to settle for someone like you when they can still pull girls in their early 20s with ease.

>>32541349
It's just insane to me that you typed a literal paragraph filled with nothing but buzzwords and no actual advice, on the advice board.

Is tinder a good app to date? If not what is? Also can I use a mix of older and newer pics?

>>32541404

I answered the question that was asked, and the answer included dating advice for women. Also you typed a paragraph too, this thing you're reading is also a paragraph, whether it's a paragraph or not has nothing to do with number of words or sentences contained within the paragraph. You are welcome for this free advice on English composition :)

>>32541506
>Also you typed a paragraph too
>You are welcome for this free advice on English composition :)
lmao

>>32539177
>>32539182
Women can't tolerate being alone as well as men can, not to mention competition is so fierce these days they get snapped up pretty quickly. I've never known any woman that has purposefully taken a break from all romantic activity (so not just relationships but hookups or flings or ONS as well) to work on herself like guys do.

anyone started just saying shit to get a reaction on dating apps because you got bored? I've started doing that and I think I get better results now than when I was actually trying to be friendly

>>32541554
What the fuck is wrong with you retards? You fellate men so much in text, just go suck them off irl and stop entertaining hypothetical women in your thoughts all day

Is one or 2 selfies ok if I use a few older pic where I'm with other people?

>>32541743
Amazing, nothing you said proves my argument wrong.

>>32541775
Suck dick

reminder this place is stalked and monitored heavily, we shall have our justice one day

do charismatic women exist ? Alpha femme fatale, prima donna type ? Or some with depth of character ? Where could one find

>>32541893
No one cares

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>>32542065
Yet you cared enough to respond.

>>32542113
Still don't care

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>>32542124

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Should I just outright ask tinder matches if they want to have sex? Is that how it works? Or do you have to at least have the pretense of game? I just want sex. I hate having to jump through social hoops.

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>>32542129
Show me aliens or I still fail to care

>>32537988
Could go either way. I had one female friend like that I ended up sleeping with, and the other I didn't.

>>32542052
Only very far above your tax bracket pal, unless you're secretly a bitcoin billionaire or something. They'll only start jockeying for attention like that when they're among many other good looking women competing for a fewer number of high-status men.
Outside of places like Hollywood or the Upper West Side, women are just skittish and shallow and passive pretty much everywhere.

>>32542195
Here you go again...

>>32542197
lol are you my secret admirer or something pal?
You think I don't have experience with women, that I'm just some neckbeard who doesn't touch grass. No, I go outside, I interact with women all the time, have had a couple of GFs and a dozen hookups, interact with educated women all the time in my field, chatting up a big titty black weeb girl on Hinge right now as I shit post. I've seen enough and even though I still love them, they're all retarded hoes.

>>32542216
>lol are you my secret admirer or something pal?
Yes, just for tonight
>that I'm just some neckbeard who doesn't touch grass.
Yes

>>32542221
Ok, weird that you're letting an inaccurate version of who I am live rent free in your head, but w/e

>>32542253
It's gonna b okej

>>32542195
>>32542216
Your'e blackpilling me man. Could I find a non-passive woman of character if she has to work to get me ?
Maybe If I get to be famous ? A writer or get one from a third world country ?
Also I'm not in America, so maybe it's worst there.

>>32542290
>Also I'm not in America, so maybe it's worst there.
It's getting bleak here man, yeah.
>Could I find a non-passive woman of character if she has to work to get me ?
I mean they do exist but at the end of the day never forget they are playing the role of "woman." You think she's different, she's your best friend, she'll spend the rest of her and your life with you, and then bam, they let you down in a predictable way.

>>32542316
>they are playing the role of "woman."
What do you mean by this ? Aren't women women ? Like men are men (and sure, we have to stick to the ideal and tend towards it, but we still have some consistancy in some qualities)
>they let you down in a predictable way.
So maybe you can predict it ?

>>32542139
You seem to be a mentally ill person, you can have a pass for now.

what’s peoples thoughts on how soon to text after getting a girls number?
for personal context I asked her out nearly an hour ago and it’s 7:15, she’s working till 9ish. she seemed really interested in me and like she didn’t want me to leave

>>32542617
additionally, was thinking I either text her tonight at/near the end of her shift or tomorrow

>>32542328
>So maybe you can predict it ?
I did but someone got mad for me announcing my prognostications

Wolen only please
>be talking to a jap girl since june
>agreed to go on a date with me when i go to japan in august
>shy introverted type
>not very bright i think (and self admitted)
>21 and changed major and had to start over
>light blue heart reacts to messages about me doing good or nice messages about her
>says im beautiful (mostly my eyes but sometimes other things)
>likes my blue eyes
>says im cool
>but barely ever responds due to exams 2 to 3 months ahead
>this is the second time this happens
>constantly follows or unfollows people aswell as removing or gaining followers
>does the same with her pics
>took one quick look at her following list (which i never do)
>saw what i thought was a band with a cool icon
>its a meetup club
>shes togheter with tons of people at a christmas party
>smiling
Should i just give up. It seems like a waste of time. Shes a qt, virgin and really cool but i think im being strung along and less and less as she cant be bothered. It would hurt a lot for someone as lonely as me for a long time but i think it would be freeing?

>>32540531
>In my experience and observation, when a woman has placed a guy into the "safe and non-sexual" category, the idea of him being affected by her physically doesn't seem to occur to her
This is most likely the case and what I needed to hear. Sucks to be me I guess.
>>32542189
I see her on the regular so I'll just keep playing along.

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Men have declared spiritual jihad on women and it shows as they slowly begin to lose it. This is it anons, the real gender war has begun, not the fake one with countless pronouns that is being shilled everywhere in the media, but the real gender war between man and woman.
Women are about to learn a harsh lesson.

Don't talk to women, don't help them, don't ask them out, don't have dating apps, don't interact with them. If a woman approaches you be nice and respectful but do not flirt or overtly joke, treat them as an equal man and then leave after the reason for the conversation is over. If a girl comes up to you and flirts kindly turn her down, if she asks you out suddenly say no thank you, don't make up a reason she only has agency because of some external reason not because she likes you. Be vague when talking about your life or weekend plans, anything you do or do with them like hooking up will be picked apart and analyzed by her and her online friends. You are a traitor and not helping anyone if you fall for their tricks.

If men can't display a modicum of power over society, this world and women, then I guess they don't hold much power at all.

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>>32540531
That's the tricky part, if she was shy when you first meet her and only after you make the first move does she start to make physical contact, she's into you, BUT, if right from the get go she introduces herself and talks to you freely and openly, she's not into you. Because you see, just how men get shy around women they like, women also get shy, it happens.

>>32506930
Let's finally close this topic: is "league" actually a thing? Should I be concerned about it?

I want to approach and introduce myself to this colleague of mine at the next corporate party - she's from the other department, works here longer (I'm in this company for half a year VS her 2) and definitely makes more than me. She's also 3-5 years older than me.

>>32542885
Eh, often yes, but not all women.

I'm finding most interpersonal issues people have is that everyone has their own issues and expectations as to what other people are going to do and then make conclusions based on whether those expectations are met, all without communicating any of their expectations. They seem to do this because they assume their thoughts and feelings are universal.
Like how some young guys expect women to approach them if they're attractive because some women approach some incredibly hot guys sometimes. So when that expectation doesn't happen, they assume that means no woman finds them attractive.
Or how my friend has repeatedly said of women he's dating "If she was interested in me, I'd expect her to..."

The world has no obligation to behave how someone imagines it will

>>32506930
Dont date ducking pajeetas or your kids will shit all over the house i fucking tell you

Every time I ask someone what makes men attractive other than physically, it sounds like someone is trying to describe the nature of the Tao

>>32542695
Bump

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Are there any good Tinder guides? I absolutely suck at texting girls. I get few likes almost everyday (tho is suspect most are fake accs/phishing etc.) but not many matches and only got a few dates out of it last year. I need more rizz.

>>32542800
Men haven't, and will not do anything.

>>32542800
Hey, I will be joining the jihad on the side of women because I think they are pretty

>>32542999
>I'm finding most interpersonal issues people have is that everyone has their own issues and expectations as to what other people are going to do and then make conclusions based on whether those expectations are met, all without communicating any of their expectations. They seem to do this because they assume their thoughts and feelings are universal.

Glad I read this. Me and my current girl are going through something similar. She expects certain things out of me and I expect certain things out of her, but we never communicate until she gets upset at me and I never communicate until she gets upset at me.

She's had ex's/bodies, while I have bodies, but not a serious relationship. Kinda want to end it just due to her past desu, but I don't want to be single again. I feel stupid for caring about the past, but it's frankly all I care about.

>>32543264
watch Babygirl (2024) and take notes

>>32509060
>He just meets these girls random places in his daily life
He just has that bad boy/psycopath/confident aura that makes bitches wet like crazy
But it's not something you can acquire, you either have it or don't

"we should hang out more" is her fishing for me to shoot my shot right? This has happened multiple times and I feel retarded for not doing it yet

>>32545168
Worst that can happen is she shoots you down and just wants to be friends, and you have a fun time out together. As long as your not simping for her and paying for her shit, having a female friend can be useful as social proof for picking up other girls.

There's a girl at work I wanted to ask out for coffee. I've been initiating conversation more (mostly in group settings) and we've become friendly, but she was very slow to accept a follow request on Instagram and hasn't really responded much any time I've directly messaged her. Is there any value actually asking her out at this point or can I consider that a pretty good sign she doesn't care?

>>32506930
tldr you cant pack it up go home

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I've never been able to attract a female by natural swagger until recently where I started to work out a bit more and socialize with my peers while also being a tad funny
I literally exchanged like a handful of words and she got a crush on me

I'm already married though, via giga autistic ways
you can make it anons

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>>32506930
My best friend just snatched in basically 1 month the only girl of a group of friends that we have in common. While I was thinking to do something with her recently, they already dated 3 or 4 times.
I guess it's over, I don't even have different options while he has plenty outside of her

>>32544826
I'll add that to my list of movies for study, thank you

>>32546339
you're married to roy?

>>32546593
yes

>>32546596
post ring

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>>32546598
silicone one was the engagement ring

I got her via online dating because she was equally too autistic to go out IRL and find someone and the bios did a lot of the heavy work in getting to know someone without having to go through multiple dates and interrogations

>>32546618
damn you're actually married, I kneel

>>32542885
I think a girl like this likes me, but I don't know. I'm pretty sure I fucked up the other day when I congratulated her on getting engaged (which as it turns out, is breaking off, which I didn't know since I hadn't seen her in months). She'd always been shy and quiet around me, and was yet again the other day.

For example, a few days ago she came up to say hi to me but then didn't say very much and just stood pretty quiet. She tended to always come up and be with me but would hardly ever speak.

>visiting home over Christmas from overseas
>old college acquaintance sees I'm home and messages me saying we should catch up
>text a little bit more then meet up for some beers
>go home to her place, have sex, spend the night there and then have sex again in the morning before going out for breakfast
>kisses me goodbye
>whole experience was very sweet and sensual
>too busy to catch up again before I leave
>text each other goodbye at the airport
>a week and a bit later after getting home
>message her happy birthday, she replies asking how my nye was
>message her respectfully complimenting a selfie she posted, left on read

what gives? I developed a crush with this woman and I understand we can't do anything serious as I live overseas. but I would at least like to flirt with her and stay in touch.

>>32506930
daily remind to not posting anything relevant to your person here, becuse there are disugsitng fucking kikes following you.

They take an interest in you, for some reason--and of that, I am serious.

>>32542885
no one gives a fuck about this stupid fucking tiktok my perception is better.

>>32547199
you had sex with her and you're this clueless with how to communicate?!

I can't stop being led-on

>Meet this qt 3.14 in mid November, ask her out to a party, she says maybe and then yes.

>Goes great we do a few more things after the party and kiss.

>Go on a few more dates and she lets me feel her up but nothing further.

>Have to go home for 2 week break.

>Setup a date for when im back, she flakes, flakes again and then finally comes over.

>Mad at me for trying to feel her up and try to get with her.

>I make an off-hand remark at the end of the night when she asks me to give her room on the couch that 'I wish you were 5'0, 90 pounds so you could fit'

>she stops talking and wants to go home

> walk her back to her car and ask if I'll see her again

> 'I'll think about it'

This is probably the end right? I texted her I didn't mean what I said and I wanted to be with her, but I don't know if she feels the same way. I just want her to give a clear answer, yes or no.

I am capable of moving on, but I get stringed on so easily.

>>32547455
This sounds like some NPC shit I'd read in some surreal novel.

>>32547455
>>Mad at me for trying to feel her up and try to get with her.
You are not telling us enough here but clearly you moved too fast after not seeing her for weeks.

>>I make an off-hand remark at the end of the night when she asks me to give her room on the couch that 'I wish you were 5'0, 90 pounds so you could fit'
Deeply stupid and insulting to say.

You weren't being led on, you dumbass.

And now you're still not being led on.
Rejecting people is hard. It's easier to evade the situation until they give up.

>>32506930
If shes not jumping on my dick with some enthusiasm does it pretty much mean shes not that sexually attracted? Married, gf, etc doesn't matter. Does this rule apply to any status? Like a level 4 beta is level 4 regardless of marriage? Feel like I have to perform just to get some responsive desire. It makes me not want sex at all.

It's like I don't provide any inherit value that will make my wife excited to want to escalate. So I'm always having to perform or do work and the reward is just meh and even worse it's looked at as a reward in my view. It's making me think women keep men around in some form of friendzone companion position but they don't actually want to fuck them.

A few months ago, just after ending a long relationship, I started talking to a girl, and she somehow started to show that she cared about me in the sense of always calling to talk and asking how I'm doing.
She's clearly a bit autistic and neet, sometimes she complains about money and her situation while I'm someone who, even though I'm not extremely successful, has a healthy financial life.
At the beginning of December I told her that I was starting to like her and she denied it, saying that she would never be able to feel the same way about me because I was “too good” and that her taste in men was "shit and problematic".
In my experience I thought that after that she would stop talking to me or seeking me out for a chat, but after that things went on as if nothing had happened. She still comes to me to talk, worries about how I'm doing and so on.
And it's not even a question of her being lonely because she has lots of friends,

I'm not hurting for her or anything, even though she's extremely beautiful, but I'm intrigued by this, because I've never had this kind of situation happen to me before and I'm usually good at interpreting women, but this one has me very confused.

30 never dated before only marginally interested but not really. Say I'm impossible to validate my opinion.

How do you use social media like snap or insta when talking to women?

>>32547419
I guess so? Like clearly she's not as interested as I am, just being polite. But honestly I'd rather her just come out and say it. Feels like I've been used.

I'm a nerd and an autist. So, I think my best option are women that are also nerds. Sadly, I lost my job back in November, and I am a borderline NEET taking care of my parents as they get older. Plus, I am only 5'7"/170cm, and I do like women that are taller than me, but it's not a dealbreaker or anything insane like that. On the bright side, thanks to dieting and adderall, I lost 60 pounds last year and I have a bmi of 24.
What are my options to get the kind of women I'm interested in? Also, I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs, so it's not like I can really go to a bar.

>>32549523
you're kinda like me anon

build just a bit of muscle if your scrawny
if you want nerd women look for where nerds hang out but keep in mind these nerd women have like 10 other nerd men orbiting them or hitting on them
I got my waifu without grinding my social skills because she's an autist too but it does help in the long run with life because we live in a society

learn how to identify fellow non-normies, it's hard though in my job I've only seen like 3-4 over 7 years even then they weren't 4chan types

>>32549575
adding onto this autist-type women will exhibit less feminine behaviors than other women
think make up, they'll almost never come in caked in make up to work and will sometimes be on the outer rim of the female cliques because women value sociability high

>>32548999
>impossible to validate my opinion
Have you applied yourself and tried?
>>32549534
To string you along for her own benefit. It's atleast 2 more of (You) orbiting her.

>>32549534
You're the backup in case the guy she actually wants doesn't work out. Reply if she messages you, but stop initiating unless you're okay with being a backup plan/side nigga.

i have mediocre success with women
best i can do is getting to kiss 1-2 girls each month, but even then, they aren't really anything to brag about

i feel good about myself afterwards anyways, but then i read stories about people getting laid every week or having threesomes and it's sort of demoralizing

im very optimistic about improving but then again it's hard to imagine it'll just click one day
it's not like im that unsociable, it's just that somehow im never in a situation where i can just bring the girl home (current situation, mostly because im in my hometown for the holidays and parents are home), or, in the case of new year's eve (i'm 80% sure the girl liked me but yeah, for some reason the whole group split up and I couldn't do anything)

i usually don't ask for instagram or anything because it seems so typical, and it sort of screams "i want to sleep with you", maybe i'm just talking nonsense but don't women like to think it all happened spontaneously?
i'd humbly say i'm pretty good at initiating conversation, or getting to meet people (i don't even approach directly, i sort of interact with everyone or just make comments about whatever's happening) but when it comes to actually doing something it always seems that "well i couldn't do anything anyways" because of a ton of social and parasocial reasons

tl;dr how do i make situations where i can actually do something

or, would the situations arise if the girls actually liked me

rembembered another one, meet girl at new workplace, i think she was into me, just when i was about to ask for her ig because we were talking about her art, manager comes over and says that my shift ends one hour earlier, so basically i can just leave

at that point it's sort of awkward to wait around till she shows up and ask her

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Why do women date so many idiots?
I know what you're going to say
>because they talk to women
Even if that were true, that doesn't automatically mean women should find them attractive.

>>32549862
Women don't like what's best for them, they prefer things that won't hurt them so much if they go wrong.
If you're too perfect for her, she won't want you.

And years of romantic comedies with women fixing men have screwed with society's brains forever.

So I made a shoddy tinder profile like 6 hours ago and got like 5 likes.

Is that good? How often should I expect to find a match? Or should I just buy the golden experience to see who likes me?

>>32549950
>Is that good?
It's a good number to start with, I don't know where you live, but here there are only single mothers, women trying to selling nude and trans/men who claim to be women.

>Or should I just buy the golden experience to see who likes me?
Gold isn't worth it, Platinum is worth it because it considerably increases the number of likes you get, but it's expensive.

So they say going to bars/clubs is good for meeting people. But I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who goes to a bar. I fucking hate bars. I honestly hate going outside but dating apps have produced no results. I want someone who is like me and doesn't like getting blasted at bars. What do I do? Where do I go?

>>32549960
>but here there are only single mothers, women trying to selling nude and trans/men who claim to be women.
I don't think I would have to be worried about that. Like at all. I'm 20.

>Gold isn't worth it, Platinum is worth it because it considerably increases the number of likes you get, but it's expensive.
When would you say it would be worth it? I'm kinda fucking horny rn. This is barely day 1 btw, but I would like to have a gf by the end of the month.

>>32549971
Unironically go to church

>>32550041
What if I'm not religious?

>>32549977
If you have money to spare, the Platinum was worth it in my opinion, I got some good matches with them.
Platinum's “Like Priority” seems to work well and Use Super Likes wisely, don't aim too high.

>>32549950
They get some uggos to like you a lot at first so you feel like you're being successful right off the bat. You can use this script in the console of the web version to see your likes.
https://github.com/hm-harshit/Tinder-Unblur-Likes/blob/main/tinder-unblur-likes.js

>>32549907
>If you're too perfect for her, she won't want you.
As much as it sounds like a cope there is a kernel of truth here, I've had more than one woman say they find me "intimidating" (had a reputation for being very smart in a uni that is already know for being a stereotypical "genius" school, lifted weights, did martial arts, involved in lots of campus activities, and 6'2" to boot)
I think some women are afraid of being used by men out of their league, at least the ones with two braincells to run together

>>32506930
Alright so what apps have you guys had success with? I’m looking to throw my hat back into the ring after a year of singledom

>>32550050
I see, but when should I consider buying that if my deadline for getting a gf is by the end of the month? Assuming, of course, that I would prefer to not buy it. A week? 2 weeks? I'm not sure if it's a weird question, but things are going slower than I expected. Then again, I basically have adhd. So maybe I should just chill?

>>32550065
Just chill. Let things flow.

>>32550061
Not only that, but many women have a problem and are attracted to situations that they know will be bad for them. Sometimes I believe that women can only love what they don't have.

>>32544881
>But it's not something you can acquire, you either have it or don't
This is something I've been saying on here for a while, to me it just seems like some sort of x factor that's inherent
Unfortunately he got the bad boy confident psycho energy, I got the impatient neurotic psychopath energy (think Glenn Howerton's character in "Blackberry"). It's done wonders for advancing my career but has been poison for my love life

>>32545539
Literally same thing has just happened to me a few days ago. Asked her out in person shortly before she quit, she said we could arrange something (smiling) and then almost entirely ghosted me on phone.
She would have rather do that than just say no in person, for some reaon
I assume she isn't interested in you based on my experience

>>32550047
Fake it. You can either get women that go to bars or women that go to churches. Which do you prefer?

>>32550056
Thanks, dude.

Yeah, one of the them was ugly as shit. Like a landwhale sheeboon with died hair and nose piercing. The other ones were very pretty doeverbeit.

>>32550081
Cool. I'll do that. Thanks, man.

>>32548959
Do you want to keep seeing her as friends or would that bother you on a lust/jealousy basis? If the latter then you need to make it clear, while trying to appear romantic and not a creep

>>32550108
>You can either get women that go to bars or women that go to churches
surely that isn't everything

>>32550047
She's not gonna cross interrogate you about the bible unless she's actually insane.

You can fake it until you make it.

>>32550093
It's just so fucking over, isn't it?

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>>32549587
Thanks, guys. Going to conventions and stuff like that did cross my mind, but I'm worried about being "that guy that hits on people at nerd meetups." Is it a risk I'll just have to take?
>>32550062
For me, ye olde Bumble and Hinge when I last tried them, even before I lost a lot of weight. Bumble is bad by design, so I don’t recommend it.

>>32508233
So from my experience it’s best not to act too serious. My first/only gf fell in love with me gradually but it started off almost strictly sexual for her as she found me to be her “ideal” man looks wise. Don’t take people’s advice when they tell you to looksmaxx. That will just make you seem even more desperate for validation which women can smell a mile a way. I am completely average looking and high functioning autistic. I wear the same clothes day after day but stay on top of hygiene and laundry. Get rid of the idea that you have to look a certain way because there’s no logic to attraction for women. As much as I hate to say it, your best bet is to join a church or become involved in religious circles. Usually the women are very young and desperate for a partner. I didn’t do this, but my ex was a converted Mormon and was actively trying to find a man through the various circles she was involved with. We met on okcupid of all places and she was just looking to hookup at first. In my profile I put that I was looking for a life partner and “christian” even though I’m not religious. Also, anecdotally speaking, it’s best to stay busy with something as a man. Be it a hobby, job, doesn’t matter. Whatever you’re passionate about. Don’t watch porn of any kind. The more aloof and out of touch with sex you are the better.

>>32550115
I honestly don't know what I expect from her. She was very direct when she rejected me, which was good because I'd rather be rejected at once than imagine things.

It's just the fact that she keeps coming up to me to talk, asking me how I'm doing and so on that confuses me, because I don't see her doing that with other people and I don't know if she wants to keep me on “standby” or something. She even started talking about other guys with me, which to me was a “Yeah It's over now”.

>>32550116
Well since you have all the answers, please inform the rest of us about all of these obvious places?

>>32550123
>Bumble is bad by design
Can’t argue with that. The only attention I got on my last profile was from men that became women. I guess this is the new normal even though I literally set my preference to women only

>>32550120
That's my current situation after my divorce, I've downloaded Meeff and I'm talking to a lot of women.
Most of them are super needy and end up fulfilling my need for validation, there's a fat girl who sends me nudes practically every day, there's a jb who keeps sending me hints, there's a single mother who was demanding things from me on the second day.
It's a crazy world. I've been thinking that maybe I'll never be able to create a deep relationship with another woman like I had with my ex.

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>>32550123
Bumble is shit, Hinge have a lot of sextortion and Tinder is cashgrab

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>>32550174
Just realized I made a mistake and wrote Bumble in the first sentence instead of Tinder.

>>32550166
>I've been thinking that maybe I'll never be able to create a deep relationship with another woman like I had with my ex.
I've had that thought about my ex. We weren't married, but we met in college and were together for eight years total, lived together for five, and I did propose to her earlier in the year we ended up breaking up.
It's so disorienting building a life with someone then having to start from scratch again. There's nothing like young love developing into a life together, even if there was resentment and issues that made it disintegrate.
I am currently trying to get something going with a girl I met off Hinge, a VERY big titty (but somehow not fat) black tomboy a few years older than me. We have some great chemistry and I haven't felt this good about a woman in a while but she's not marriage material as far as I'm concerned. She's hot and we're both pretty DTF but like you said it's hard to imagine her or anyone else filling that hole my ex left in heart

>>32550110
>doeverbeit
What?

>>32550374
It's very shit, Isn't it Anon? I don't know about you, but it's not like I still have feelings for my ex or am still suffering. I've moved on and everything, but I can't see myself building with someone else what I had with her and deep down there's a certain discouragement in going through all the whole relationship building and problems of convivence again.

>>32550637
> it's not like I still have feelings for my ex or am still suffering
I don't quite know my feelings for my ex. Sometimes I still suffer from waves of melancholy from missing her, regret for fumbling her, and anger for her leaving me and essentially monkeybranching to another guy. I took her virginity, was her first boyfriend and everything, helped her find her first job, bought a house, raised animals. I thought we were going to spend the rest of our lives together man. And all that makes me feel wht you mentioned here:
>I can't see myself building with someone else what I had with her and deep down there's a certain discouragement in going through all the whole relationship building and problems of convivence again.
It is really tough imagining something "better" out there for me, yeah our personalities clashed and in the end I was a piece of shit to her but I didn't expect her to just be able to leave without any remorse.
I'm very sad now, I want to drink but I'll go to the gym instead I guess

>>32550753
We have very similar situations. When I met my ex, her father had just gone bankrupt and I helped her to continue studying, both motivationally and financially.
I helped her get a job and build a great future for herself. All this so that now, when things are finally working out for her, she kicks me out of her life. Kek

That kind of story that you hear everywhere and believe won't happen to you, that when her life is perfect she'll have compassion and gratitude for you and not just abandon everything for nothing.
Obviously I haven't been an exemplary husband, I've messed up here and there, but nothing too absurd.

>>32550123
I met my wife on okcupid but I got a bit lucky
use online dating stuff to learn how to speak to women

Is it worth using dating apps if you’re 31? I’ve heard that it’s basically impossible above 30 because women in your own age range won’t swipe or anyone that’s not Bruce Wayne tier while younger women usually won’t even see you because their filters exclude anybody above the age of 25. I never had success even when in my 20s though I would occasionally get likes. Now I get nothing.

>>32551001
Plenty of women date older men. Make a good profile and you'll be fine.

>>32551005
I know that and I do fine with getting attention IRL. I’m talking specifically dating apps.

>>32551032
I haven't heard of girls setting filters for age. Just put yourself out there. If nothing happens after about a month you can just stop.

Is it a bad idea to explicitly say "date" when asking a girl out?

>>32551191
Depends on the situation. On a dating app, no, that's what you're there for. In person, maybe don't. Especially if you two are still feeling out whether you are romantically interested in each other or not.

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>talking to a girl at work
>other female coworker shows up
>she stops in the middle of both of us and stares at her for 3 seconds
>other girl starts laughing
>ask her what's so funny
>she ignores me and continues talking
What does it mean? Were they making fun of me? The other girl has also acted weird around me every now and then too.

>>32551358
Thanks, yeah I've just been able to make small talk from time to time and she comes off as the family/"oldschool" type so I wasn't sure if that would be a good idea or not

The hardest thing for me is I never think about getting her number when we're talking, and if I do think about it I freeze up lmao

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>>32551037
Gonna post this in the new thread as well but for the record I'm 32 and all my dates off apps have been with women my age or older. I don't really mind since I'm just cruising for pussy right now after breaking up out of a long relationship, but I do think girls just looking to hook up will go for men their age. This is even true IRL, I've definitely gotten filtered for my age beginning with a 3. If I want to marry it's almost certainly a young church girl. Luckily one of my little brothers is going to a Catholic university (family is Catholic) and keeps offering to put me up if I visit him to find a wife lol.