>>32567323
we're as shallow and we're still good people
also people who think about "good people/bad people" are very simplistic
most people are good people with some people and bad people with some others, you're never good with absolutely everyone
but being more realistic most people is somewhere in between, gray areas everywhere, is a good father but a terrible neighbor, is a good driver but a terrible co op gaming buddy, is a good co worker but is a terrible parent
there must be exceptios but they don't make the rule
I'm extremely fatphobic and I like my girls young but I don't wish death on older girls or fat chicks, they can live their life as they please
and I consider myself a good person.

>>32567323
Women are not good people, no one is a good people.
Regardless of height.
Stop excusing your losery for your height

>>32567343
You are probably not good. Every i dont like x but totally let them exist person always turn out to be fucking with x despite their claims
>>32567323
Women are always evil.

>>32567323
Heightpill isn't real that's how
My brother is 5'9", I'm 6'2". Our faces are the same, everyone clocks us as being brothers immediately if we're together. He has a harem of like 5 different girls right now, I've been incel for over a year.

>people aren't sexually attracted to me
>therefore they're all evil
Most men grow out of this at 15. You got left behind

>>32567450
>Guy with money says "Money isn't everything!"

>>32567323
Just go to the shire and find yourself a nice cute hobbit like you.

>>32567484
Yeah except here the "money" actually isn't doing anything to help
Seriously, if all women wanted was a tall, rich guy with a big dick, I'd be swimming in pussy. But they don't actually want any of those things, they want "fun" and being tall or rich or well-endowed doesn't equate to being a fun guy at all

>>32567323
humans are bad in general but at least man aren't whores

>>32567407
not true but whatever helps you think there is a 'huge bad' out against you and twarting your desires to succeed or something

>>32567323
Women categorically are not good or bad people. The fact that you think of them that way indicates to me that you view them as a sort of abstract collective. Maybe meet a few women personally and judge for yourself.

>>32567323
It's not their fault, it's how they evolved.

>>32567323
They're not evil, that's just how they are wired, yeah it's unfair but what else can you do? We're living in a time where most men will NOT reproduce and will not have a romantic companion during their lifetime

My husband is 5'4" and I'm so fucking glad that he never fell for this height blackpill crybaby bullshit.
>t. aesthetically attracted to short men to begin with

>>32567323
Men are boobpilled so what's the difference?

>>32568369
The boobpill isn't real, no man is rejecting a woman because of her tit size.

The realest pill is the dickpill as long as you're within reasonable height range which is like 5'5+
Sure you might struggle a bit more getting laid at the beginning but with a thick 8+ incher no woman will ever forget you and you will build a harem over time

>>32567323
Women prefer taller men cause men are supposed be taller than women, it's only logical. In the same vein, most men aren't gonna wanna date a lady taller than them. It sucks cause it's not like your height is something you can control but people can't control when they're born with ugly faces or deformities or whatever other things make people less desirable. It is what it is.

>>32567323
Because no one owes anyone else sex or love. I would never date a fat woman does that make me evil? Ofc not

>>32568415
Difference is that some other guy will fuck that fat chick, while no girl will fuck the ugly short incel

>>32568438
Men have little to no standards for sex because they're hornier than women, I'm not seeing how that's the fault of women. If you really want sex that bad download Grindr, there's plenty of men who'd be willing to pump and dump you.

>>32568382
Kek this is the answer of someone who either has had no experience with women or just got his first (fat) girlfriend

>>32567323
they are good people if you are tall

one of my best friends has come out of a relationship of 8 years with a guy she loved dearly
she told me his penis was smaller than most if not every ex she had before him
he was a bit autistic too
but they got along well
he was just not going anywhere workwise so they were slowly descending into poverty so that's why she left him
otherwise they'd still be together

Most people suck
Even a bigger percentage of women suck
End of story

>>32567323
I don't think humans are good generally, sorta amoral really. Whimsically nice and compulsively benevolent about certain topics. Monsters at other times. It is like being around a bear.

>>32568643
yeah I tried to explain them this, also that most people inhabit a moral gray area where they are good to some people and in some spaces and people and bad to others
but this is 4chan they want someone to be the villain and someone to be the hero
too many examples to name

>>32567323
Short guys get pussy. Facts.

Women have never been inherently good people. It's always been a lie that women manipulated and maintained to gain favours from men and society.

>>32568770
>my mom was an abusive alcoholic that neglected me
now everyone was born out of filth anon, my mom is the most noble woman I know and most girls I know are at least ok in the moral scale
do I know terrible women? yeah, but much less than guys to be honest, the ammount of guys that will join a gang or go to war compared to women is very lopsided

>>32568698
Cats are social creatures that kinda share but don't collaborate well or often and fight each other sometimes. Dogs can be similar to us in tribalism.

>>32568369
You could literally be flat as a board, no tits or ass and I bet you'll find a boy who's into that shit. Women cannot lose

>>32568369
I honestly like most types of boobs including small or basically flat. Not flat flat tho unless they're super skinny.

>>32568860
or flat flat is good if they have a good butt

>>32568852
short men still pull. your argument makes no sense.

>>32568899
he'd rather think it's about stuff out of his control rather than work on himself
I'm 1,65, a gf I stayed almost 5 years with was 1,85, a whole 20 cm taller than me
she was hook line and sinker for me
until I fucked it up
but there you go

>>32568915
>just work on yourself bro
I'm 30 fucking years old, when am I supposed to start seeing some ROI for "working on myself?"

>>32568899
>short men still pull
I know. That's what I was saying.
Short men, despite their "disadvantage" can still find a girlfriend.
Just like flat girls. There's at least one man out there who'll fuck her despite her lack of titties.

>>32567323
because its not their fault they have preferences like that. they are hard wired to genetically select for reasons that were incredibly valid when our species developed these systems of selection.
im a turbomanlet and while i can admit the situation fucking sucks, ill never blame women for it. it just sucks that i was born the loser and i now have to fight an uphill battle as a result. getting bitter at women is the one way to ensure youll be alone forever though.
>>32568345
this is really nice and inspiring to hear
>>32568400
maybe retarded boomers wouldnt but 90% of zoomer men would date and probably prefer a taller woman because they all want to be a dommy mommy or some shit
>>32568620
i dont even know why thats worth mentioning. like the fact she said it means it was a huge issue to her. id never tell my friends that my girlfriends ass or tits werent as big as i wanted even if that was true. i dont know why it upsets me, i guess the fact that after all that his dick size needs to be commented on as a factor kinda sucks.

>>32568438
Men will fuck anything, but most won't be willing to actually STAY With a fatty.

>>32567323
Why would that make them bad people?
Do you think women need to date you in order to be a "good person"?

>>32568438
What does that matter to what that anon said you retard?
If another woman did want to fuck OP's manlet ass, would that make the women who didn't suddenly "not evil" according to his worldview?

What do you mean by heightpill?

>>32569915
OP will never have sex with a girl because he is homosexual.

>>32567323
1) There are plenty of women who like short guys, they just aren't your goddamn type.
2) Your standards may be a bit too unrealistic for your current reality
3) There's no such a thing as a good person. All people are evil to some capacity.

where are you guys meeting these women to become 'heightpilled'. i swear this shit only happens in the manosphere bullshit.

women will talk about 'ideal' men all the time and say shit like 6 feet, 300k/yr, has to drive a lambo.

they will read sarah j maas books which have fairy men with the most muscular physiques imaginable, giant cocks and wings.

but when they fall for a 5'7" skinny fat nerdy guy with glasses like me because and i quote my current gf here "you noticed the seatbelt was making me uncomfortable without me saying anything and you pulled over to help me fix it"

>>32569897
ehhh i see it all the time. completely fine looking average dudes with a fatty. they usually have kids too, so at least they have that.

>>32571297
I see short guys with hot girls as well. There are exceptions ti everything

>>32571316
i agree 100%, although the incels will argue some bullshit like "she's just settling" "shes cheating with chad" "shes not putting out" just to stay in their blackpill.

if you stop using women who use dating apps as a marker for real world behavior, its really not that fucking bad guys.

>>32567323
nobody is good or evil, humans are just lowly animals who follow their instincts every time they can get away with it

>>32570384
>ut when they fall for a 5'7" skinny fat nerdy guy with glasses like me because and i quote my current gf here "you noticed the seatbelt was making me uncomfortable without me saying anything and you pulled over to help me fix it"

Not OP but ...

this might as well be some counter larp bullshit written to appease blackpillers on the internet even if true -- you think its cause you did that and you actually took her words at face value but there's a decent chance you had more going for you then you think and this is just the cover story. Women love feeding their own sense of romanticism.

Truth is always somewhere in the middle man.

>>32567323
Could be worse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmt-9HTVZoM

>>32568921
>I'm 30 fucking years old, when am I supposed to start seeing some ROI for "working on myself?"

Not that poster but usually this should be your sign that you over indexed in one direction and not another that you should have. STEM nerds do this all the time - they get the bag but don't develop personality outside of their work or think their will be some magical window they can play catchup on social skills.

>>32571405
This is basically my point. "Work on yourself" is terrible advice. It encourages young men to be content with being single while not doing anything to pursue women. It's like some land of milk and honey type shit, if you just gymcel and make money your promised reward will surely come...well it doesn't. When guys are stuck being lonely and single then the proper advice should be "go out of your way to talk to more women in places you wouldn't normally go." My entire family basically dropped the ball on impressing this upon me, it seems like they still don't really give a shit or sense the urgency that a woman is not magically going to fall into my lap just because I'm smart or I'm "a nice guy." I don't know if it's some generational difference or something, but I've only ever been given bad advice or no advice at all.

>>32571382
Incel blackpill cultists refuse to accept reality. You could show infinite proofs that blackpill is all wrong and lies to an incel but his shield of reality denial is too strong.