ITT we ask the opposite gender anything excluding the following topics:- Politics (take that to /pol/).- Trolling of any kind (take that to /b/).- Racism (also take that to /b/).- Misogynistic and misandristic rants (take those to /r9k/).- Lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transgenders and other queers (take those to /lgbt/).- Personal details or pictures of yourself - these are not allowed on /adv/ threads. (If you feel the need to post toonme images, there's a corresponding thread on /soc/ where those are allowed).- Blog posts. (Honestly, there's no good place for those!).- Any image that is not work-safe.Help to keep the thread nice by reporting off-topic, poor-quality, or inappropriate posts.Previously on /atoga/: >>32580893
MenWhy are you pathetic incels?
>>32583659Dum (You) baiter
>>32583659I'm short and ugly and squeaky and weak and retarded. I'm sorry it's not my fault :(
>>32583659I'm saving myself for a cute Japanese girls, sorry.
>>32583659Not every nigga can be Sora.
>>32583659I'm a volcel
>>32583656She'll be here by Feburary 5th, I'm so excited!!!
>>32583659wawowoaoawoaweoawweoeooawweeoaawwaaowowwwwaawwaa
>>32583672Fuck off, furrshitter
>>32583659I'm hideously ugly because of my acne. The creams don't work and they won't give me the dangerous-but-effective pill.
>>32583671BBBBBBBBBASED!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Xpzwve-Ro&t=76s
Women do you like human male back sack shots?
Women, how much of an age gap do you prefer? How many years old do you want guys to be? What's your max? Include your own age in reply
Women what if I wore this
>>32583675I can see you're excited too!
>>32583659My heart belongs to Star Trek.
women what is your pussy flavour?
>>32583682>Women, how much of an age gap do you prefer?I like between 5 and 10 years.>How many years old do you want guys to be?In that range, pretty much. Just has to be proportional to me. ... I might not mind it if he's 50 and I'm 30.>What's your max?20 years proportional to me starting from 30.If I'm 20, between 5 to 10 years.>Include your own age in reply29. For context my fiance is 36.
>>32583675At leas doggirl poster isn't perpetually on here and isn't constantly negative and shitting up the thread...
>>32583678Well, I wouldn't say it's too virtuous, but it's not that bad either.
Girls: There are some women vaguely in my life that I've never really spoken to (besides an occasional "hi" in passing or nodding at each other). What would you think about being asked out by someone you have really only known at a distance like that?How is something along the lines of "Hey I've seen you around and I'd like to get to know you better" sound? Or is there a better way to put it?
>>32583686Women, if your bf was good but wanted to put his dong down your throat and make tou puke on it on occasion, would that be a dealbreaker?
>>32583706Lol why did you quote that
>>32583656Why are tastefully thicc women so unhappy with their beautiful bodies?
>>32583694Avatartroon has been spamming more often lately. Positive or negative, it doesn't really matter.
>>32583708mistake
>>32583679Not particularly, no. I only like clean balls up close where I can huff them.
>>32583709Because they're fat sacks of shit that should hit the treadmill
>>32583691Black cherry.
>>32583682Never younger not even a minute, 10 is my max, it has to be realistic. 24
>>32583709You mean fat women?
Men, suppose you meet the hottest woman you ever seen. However, she is satan dressed up as a woman. Or a man dressed up as a woman (if you dislike that). Would you still be sexually attracted to her? Be honest
what do you think of me putting these on my car windows
>>32583718no
>>32583716I also want to add that these polls also invite people to claim lower than they normally would to virtue signal or more to be edgy
>>32583718No the fuck?
>>32583718No. FYI your question is also confusingly and badly phrased.
>>32583632You're a pick me hoe. Men secretly cringe at you and think you're pathetic
>>32583714>>32583717the most low IQ braindead replies ever
>>32583720I'd assume you're either severely autistic or you've borrowed your grandfathers car.
Women do you actually read men's responses to questions here or not
>>32583721>>32583728>>32583729Science says men sexual attraction is visually based though
>>32583735yes
>>32583736I do but I make a point of not responding when they're being abrasive just because
>>32583737non-sequitir
>>32583730Nigga seethed so hard he had to reply in the old AND the new thread
>>32583729How?
>>32583730>so bootyblasted you needed two posts to neg herLol.
>>32583735whoops accidentally clicked enterbut yeah i drive a grandpa car anyway dont have a pic of mine, heres one from Wikipedia
>>32583746Based, I love these 80s/90s American luxury barges. But yeah, honestly, those window things are pretty cringe.
>>32583737So? I'm not a brainless monkey that only thinks with its dick.
Women, why do you respond to your negative (You)s while ignoring your positive (You)s?
>>32583730based star trek enjoyer broke this retard.
>>32583720What is that
>>32583749Ok but your dick would still get hard for her despite the fact she is satan in a hyper realistic and perfect costume
>>32583737And? Food desirability is like that too, but I still won't eat something that I know will taste terrible despite how good it may look.
>>32583756If she was a hypothetical devil maybe I would fuck her but I wouldn't want to stay anywhere near her. If she was the actual devil or a tranny I am running for the hills and my dick is staying soft as a pillow.
>>32583755window vent shade thingys
>>32583756>Ok but your dick would still get hardThat's not how it works for guys at all, we don't just see someone and pop a boner instantly.
Women, will you do pickme things so I'll secretly cringe at you and think you're pathetic? (That's a lie, I think you're amazing and I love you.)
Women, why are you like this?
>>32583718>sexually attractedTechnically yes, I'll probably get a boner, but she won't be cute enough, so it'll probably give me the uncanny valley effect, when something is almost perfect, but not quite.
>>32583766>would wear a suit>but if its not for work, it becomes cringethere's no winning
8 scrambled eggs were consoomedNow finishing up with some tomatoes
>read story>emotional moment happens>get shivers down my spine>nipples get hardi don't really need advice, but i thought men would enjoy knowing that this happens.
>>32583770What's the point in cutting em, just eat em whole
>>32583730Fuck you, slut. Go watch marvelslop or something.
>>32583772Do you look back and shiver?
>>32583774>marvelslopThis is the kind of stuff pick me hoes pretend to like to get male attention
>>32583779Exactly.
>>32583778look back? where? my wall?
>>32583772My dream is to read books in bed with a woman. Our bodies are intertwined and casually exploring each other as she reads her book and I read my book. Whenever one of us reads something interesting, the other will know it from the way we move.
If a woman is in a bad relationship, what would cause her to cheat on her boyfriend with some innocent person to get payback instead of just breaking up?Is this some skylar white thing where she thinks cheating on him is the only way he's gonna get mad enough to let her go? Genuinely interested.
>>32583730>>32583774Catfight?
>>32583773I have a small mouth
>>32583782When you can't stop reminiscing, bout the life you were living.
>>32583763Men actually hate pickmes that's why they hate female twitch streamers
Women on tv and stuff, female characters will sometimes talk about "girls and their mothers" as if war between them is just expectedWhat gives? Aren't women, particularly mother and daughter supposed to help eachother? What's with the undermining and digs? Is it true even?
>>32583772When i talk to women they also get shivers down their spines if you know what i mean hehe
>>32583784>to get paybackI wouldn't cheat to get payback. The only circumstances I would cheat in was if I was trying to leave the relationship but he didn't let me under the threat of violence.
>>32583786Those are both men
>>32583793And somehow in your mind, cheating is less likely to lead to violence than just breaking up? Absolute retard behavior.
>>32583791Mothers love their sons and hate their daughters. Men are privileged and loved by both parents women are hated by both mom and dad
Which % of men you think you would rape a child if pedophilia wasn't illegal? Which % of men you think would knowingly have sex with a tranny if he passed?
>>32583797You're being pretty retarded. If someone is threatening violence on you, that's not a valid relationship to begin with.
>>32583791>Why do characters on tv manufacture drama
>>32583656How do I change my brain entirely and become a completely different person?
>>32583800And cheating to get out of it is be the best option? Really?
>>3258379910% and 40% respectively
>>32583713Women don't like ANYTHING
>>32583804If you can't escape the relationship anytime soon and you're just in self-preservation mode when you're at home with the abuser, yes.
>>32583807I LIKE COCK. I have shouted it in multiple vocas, idk how else to prove it.
>>325837991-5 for both
>>32583730I can slightly sympathize with that, hating the simps from your own gender. First shoot the traitors, then shoot the main enemy force.
>>32583809Do it again, give me a spiel on how much you love male genitalia
>>32583798> hate their daughters.Why? Fathers love their sons and try to train them for the world.
>>32583809>idk how else to prove itYou need to write song about it and sing it for us
>>32583808>the best way to self preservation is to make the potential aggressor even angrierAmazing
>>32583713My balls have distinct smell even if im freshly showered Idk why is that
I have had an ingrown hair for months near my coochie and it got infected after months of me not touching itWhat do I do? I've got some antibacterial cream on it now
>>32583831Tranny
>>32583831When I had one near my dingaling I had a huge cyst, and I just popped it and drained it and it went away. Maybe I was being retarded but idk.
>>32583826If he's already making violent threats on my life, what do I have to lose?
>>32583691Monster zero ultra
>>32583798>Mothers love their sons and hate their daughters. Men are privileged and loved by both parents women are hated by both mom and dadMaybe in China
>>32583718No, I'd be disgusted, because I'd know she wasn't a woman.Also, just because a woman is physically attractive doesn't mean I will like her.
I’m a little disappointed that Smosh hasn’t uploaded a single video to all three of their channels since late 2014. But I know this is for the best, because I know Anthony and Ian know better than to move everything to Los Angeles and let some ugly, obnoxious, shrieking feminist slags who aren’t funny in the slightest completely take over everything and befoul their entire legacy in the name of “diversity”.It’s good that they didn’t upload anything since 2014 because they knew the big appeal was their friendship and their adventures together in suburban Sacramento. Just the two of them and maybe their neighbors every so often. Nothing else. There was no need to dirty it with unfunny whores. They knew to quit when it was time, and now this fond memory of what they contributed to that era of YouTube can be preserved perfectly forever. Whore-free. Feminist-free.Bros before hoes.
>>32583809Prove it by sitting on my face
>>32583830Nigga who asked
>>32583832Well no I have a working female parts >>32583835I popped this and it just keeps bleeding and bleeding and it looks really purple ... I don't want to give myself TSS or something
>>32583849I thought its on topic.
somebody hold me... i've been betrayed once more... my heart is shattering into a thousand pieces...
>>32583807I love yaoi (the purest form of love)>>32583819Women don’t understand camaraderie the same way men do
British people in America are so annoying
>>32583831>>32583835You’re both whores and no one actually cares about you.
>>32583852Mine bled for a while, I just cleaned the area and pressed hard and it stopped after a while. I think I might have a little scar too.
MenYou're lying in bed when you hear your window creak open slowly. You're unable to move, and can only watch as a beautiful 18yo woman crawls in through the window, crawling on the ceiling until she's directly above you. She drops onto you and whispers, "must produce eggs" and then her 18 foot long tongue slithers down into your clothes and penetrates your anus. How do you respond?
>>32583861I've never fucked and I'm not a woman. Are you fucking stupid?
>>32583865moid hands
Speaking of zits and ingrown hairI had a pimple on my clavicleI squeezed it out and it left a small scar, but it was a white scar One day i woke up and it turned purple and looks quite ugly if im being honestIs there anything i can do about it
>>32583831Could cut it out and wash the wound and hope for the best, or just wait.
>>32583861I'm a virgin >>32583863I thought the dark color was just it scarring from when I first got it months ago, but I guess not
>>32583865OOUUUUCHHH AAAAAAA EEEEEE
>>32583875That's the thing I can't find a hair this time It's just a pimple type thing now that had some pus
>>32583791Usually friction between mothers and daughters come from ambitions of what the daughter wants to do and the guide the mother wants for herMy mom and sister have bickered a lot because my sister wants to be a sahm despite being in law school and my mother is not on board with that at all
>>32583869Nta but men can be whores
>>32583872Cool neck bro
>>32583859There's an almost irresistible pull to play the John Oliver (and I hate that twat) character, because it entertains you guys so much. Our regular stonefaced stiff upper lipped selves wouldn't be nearly so popular.
>>32583808I'm the guy who originally asked the question, not the one you were replying to but this actually makes sense.Her boyfriend does look like a woman beater, not gonna lie. Short (he's legitimately like 5'4), full of tattoos and insecurities. Definitely fits the bill. I moved on already but I always wondered why she used me like that. She never told me anything, said she had broken up with the guy a few months before we met but I found out for a fact it was a lie. They have a 2 yo daughter btw, she was like months old when this happened. Oh well we move on, hope she's not in danger or anything and the baby has a good life.
>>32583869>I’m not a womanYou’re still a whore
>>32583872Where on your clavicle is this???but FYou can try putting retinol and or vitamin C on it, (not at the same time), that helps fade my dark spots a lot
Women what would you do if you had a prostate for a day?
>>32583882Not something you'd usually call a man though
>>32583893Would produce sperm and impregnate myself
Men don't breast implants. Men like the kind of women that get breasts implantsTruest statement I ever read
>>32583899Not with the prostate, lol. Also, it would've been a megaincest.
>>32583905What
>>3258379990% or more of indians1% of other men, hard to tell really, whatever percentage is currently into loli>Which % of men you think would knowingly have sex with a tranny if he passed?Ehhhh 10% ? I think a lot of guys would fuck hunter schafer, finnster or accept a blowjob from bailey jay
ni hao yall.
Men how does it feel knowing I love watching things that are at least 90% filled with you, and almost entirely woman-free? I hate looking at my own creature and would prefer to oggle at cute men all day
>>32583899How you gonna produce sperm with a prostate lol
>>32583915Would you watch all the male atoga anons working construction together shirtless? Gay banter almost guaranteed.
>>32583915Men want to be objectified lol
In Loving Memory of Smosh2005-2014Rest in Power
>>32583915Doesn't feel real cause I convinced myself women think we're ugly and hate us
>>32583915Would you watch the atoga men fighting to take a strategic position in the city they're sieging together? Yelling and screaming and cursing at each other almost guaranteed.
>>32583927So do women desu, just look at Sydney SweeneyFeminists are all lying grifters
>>32583809>I have shouted it in multiple vocaslink?
>>3258393412 Angry Men but they all make out and cuddle at the end
>>32583905Actually low IQ men prefer implants while high IQ men prefer naturals
I miss my boyfriend
>>32583891Wym where on clavicleLol
>>32583926NTA but I would
>>32583942Same
Brokeback Mountain is one of the best movies ever made. I hate women so much.
Men I got an $18 lip balm at the farmers market todayThoughts
>>32583942i miss your boyfriend too
>>32583905I dont think men prefer insecure bimbos a whole lotPlenty of men who say that fake boobs only look good in clothesThen the clothes come off and stiff baloon tits stay and look uglyI would 99999x rather have a girl with flat chest than one with fake boobs
>>32583948Are you gay, bi or straight?
>>32583947Me too>>32583950Same
>>32583949Means nothing if i cant see your kissy kissy lips
>>32583949That sounds like a lot for a lip balm
>>32583949What's good about it
Hannahowo got fake boobsDespite having basically infinite money to spend on those, they still look weirdMost men say that she was perfect before now she just has weird balloons
>>32583949Can I kiss you?
Single femanons why don't you have a boyfriend? Don't you know how fun they are?
>>32583710Sounds like a you problem.
If men want all women to be stacy looking why don't they pay us surgeries and procedures? >Men don't like implantsWe can always get fat transfer to boobs instead. Looks and feels natural since boobs are made fat already
>>32583966Attachment issues :(
>>32583954Straight female
>>32583968No, I want you to look like you
>>32583966Social retardation unfortunately
>>32583968i prefer girls who look like pic rel over stacy bimbos
>>32583968If women want all men Chad looking why not just pay for our jaw surgery and eye and cheekbone surgery?
>>32583985I have alopecia though
>>32583984Hi wanna date
>>32583967>replied after an hourSounds like a you problem.
>>32583968I want you to look like this
>>32583988Fat and balding femanon? Could it be?
>>32583988im sorry im sorrim sorry im srooy im soryy im sorry
>>32583966level 800 autism.
A pretty girl smiled to me 3 weeks ago and i still clearly remember her face and her cute expressionI think i got a crushHavent seen her since
>>32583988God that's weirdly hot.
Should women with alopecia just shave it all off? Shave it all off and wear lace wigs? Men, thoughts?
You said men like tomboys, but sadly, I just found out the guy I like likes make up and girls to dress womanly, and sexy...I'm not the one for him.
How to get a bf / husband, guide by Anon.Step 1:Get this kind of hairstyle
tfw no 170cm gf
>>32584006its ok! youll find someone eventually :)
>>32584006Yes men do like different things, as do women. My oneitis liked bad boys, and I'm kind of a faggot. That's life I guess.
Women Would you rather date a STRfag or a DEXfag?
>>32584006Chun Li is a tomboy but wears makeup and shows her femininity Being a tomboy doesnt mean make yourself ugly on purpose.Girl being a tomboy doesnt mean we dont want her to put on nice skirt sometimes and do her hair nicely
>>32584006So you know how some people exist who like sugar cookies more than chocolate chip cookies?Yeah that doesn't mean that people who like chocolate chip cookies don't exist.
>>32584005Depends how bad it is
>>32583991Unlike you, I do things.
>>32584017I didn't mean it as a rule, I myself highly dislike wearing make up and putting on fancy, more classy dresses. I like to believe I have my own charm, just a bit sad he would probably think I'm unclassy.>>32584018Yeah, someone else will like me I hope. Just feel sad about this particular guy.
>>32584009are you the messy bun autist that creeped out your coworkerpersonally i think hair should drape down all the time but that isnt really feasible
I truly dont have one specific preference in womenFlat chest? NiceBig boobs? GreatThick thighs? LovelySkinny deer leegs? HotBig dumptruck ass? FantasticSmall round fit butt? GorgeousI think im truly a woman fan.
>>32584028What about flat ass? I got you there. You are not a woman lover
>>32584028>>32584009I love women's necks, they're so dainty and slim and elegant.
Women tell me something fun about being a woman
>>32584037I can show my emotions
GirlsDo you like Stevie Ray Vaughan and his style of blues rock?https://youtu.be/YpvxtQ0gUPU?si=fPKOE-pMvYIrIuF4
From which race do women enjoy and want sex the most?
>>32584040Guy is crazy good with that thing
>>32584039Let me play with your emotionsFor nothing is good unless you play with itAnd baby I'm good at being good
>>32584040Ya
>>32584037getting to be a girls girl, its one of the few things that makes me feel useful and needed. need a makeup wipe? I got you, need some pads? i got you. creepy dude follwing you? i'll pretend im your bestie! "love the outfit!""the necklace really brings out your eyes!"it makes me feel wanted :)also, being able to make comments like "woahh, nice tits" without sounding too weird, given women say thigns like thsi to each other quite often :)
Relapsed and picked at my face :( Men please help me
>>32584052No, I'm tired...
>>32584052Wear a ski mask to stop yourself until you break the habit
Women, how do you feel when you see a more attractive man when you're with your bf?
>>32584009FI spent my entire childhood wanting hair like this It will never happen
>>32584052I will nibble on your cheeks like how owls kiss
>>32583905truenothing i love more than some big old plastic gazoombas
I love short men
>>32584058I just think "damn he's hot" and then move one with life.
>>32584058Get off Reddit
>>32584026Yes its meI dont think she minded it whole lot we had a chat later on she called me to show me something and she was getting really close with her bodyI think shes kind of insecure in her looks, she used to wear her hair inn simple ponytail, she was always so cute and "pure" then i think she broke up with her bf, started wearing hair down, looked more pretty and never does anything with her hairShe said "im boring" in regards to her hairAgain, none of it is my problemI just want her to look pretty
>>32584058Everyone is repulsed by twitter reposters
>>32584056I am too>>32584057The ski mask will cause more break outs
>>32584063How short
>>32584032No excuse to have a flat assHit the gym flatty >>32584058>Taller and strongerI dont think this mattersHeight, yes, looking stronger i doubt
Women, what's it lie working out while on your period?
>>32584072Bags of sand
>>32584072horrendous. i despise it with all my being.
aaah ah my head aah aaaaah uuhn aane my head anananr rmfropaz;lixn,j..;
>>32584068Rub Tabasco on your face so that it burns when you pick? Idk how to help you babe, how about a kiss or something instead.
>>32584072I want a powerlifter qt gf that will jump my bones after every successful training session
>>32583656Male hereAnyone else like to watch their gf eat? Mines hot Tourette’s and makes little faces probably without knowing. I don’t stare her down.
>>32584072>Latinx with blonde hairyawn
>>32584072FWhy does she have curled hair and a full face of make up to work outI hate this retarded work out content these women act like clowns for views and it's hard. I avoid doing anything high impact on my period
>>32584072>Knee sleeves while benching >Wearing wrist wraps incorrectlyI see right through you fake BITCH
>>32584081*Hits you over the head with an aluminum baseball bat*
>>32584072I don’t. I don’t feel period pain at all, and I don’t exercise at all.
>>32584089What if she was just squatting or what going to squat after her bench?
>>32584093Anon... You are a man...
>>32584090oh god dont say thatfukkrn whyi only had 2 beers
>>32584096Yes? I am What’s your point
>>32584072>Women, what's it lie working out while on your period?I walk and do light yoga.
>>32584100Donk donk donk donk donk until you are a bloody pulp on the sidewalk
Girls, your son sends this to you because he's thinking of you. How do you feel?https://youtu.be/b07E3ok4-RE?si=pDTWKnsm206Accz-
>>32584094Doesnt make sense
>>32583659Its morally wrong to approach a woman who has not signaled interest in me and I have yet to experience a woman signaling interest in me so I don't approach or talk to women
>>32584105Are you the same guy as >>32584040
Women how do you choose between pad or tampon?
>>32584087They're attention whores nigga
>>32583659Im rather ugly and boringSo even if girls notice me and get attracted to my height and broad shoulders, it only takes a good look up close and around 3 minutes of converstion for them to lose interest
>>32584116Tampons are painful to put in. So pads are the natural choice.
>>32584116Pads. Tampons are toxic and can lead to death
>>32584116pads, because i hate the idea of putting tampons in
Women I'm ugly and I look like a bridge troll when I smile so I try not to. Thoughts?
>>32584096>>32584101You got trolled to hell, retarded cunt mega lmao
How do you know there are really women in here without bob and vagene?
I could be your biological tampon
>>32584115Yes. Here's my riding the 7 train in Queens jamhttps://youtu.be/TJ0XolwVyz8?si=for1G6kylUcCWwcD
>>32584084FI like watching men watch tv or work on cars and other hobbiesIt’s really cute
>see a super hot chick at gym>She smiles to me>Happens again>Time goes by>See her now and then exercising>Sometimes she glances>But now shes avoiding eye contactWhat went wrong
>>32584129its giving horny bitch whos too much of a pussy to ask straight up :(
Girls, you are dating a guy and learn that he both got leg lengthening surgery and a hair transplant.How do you feel about him after learning this?
>>32584132she stopped ovulating
>>32584120>>32584123>>32584125So why are tampons so popular then?
Microdosing PEDs to my gf to make her hypersexual
>>32584131Thoughts on this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=860p-_W-dyU
>>32584136i'd be confused as to why he didnt bother telling me
>>32584138are they? ive worked in a grocery store for 2 years and ive only ever seen women buy pads
>>32583656Beautiful Women.Should you date a younger guy? What age gap would be acceptable?
>>32584133You never smiled back
>>32584138Because not all women like pads, and not all women like tampons, retarded fool.
>>32584138some like it and some don't.
>>32584136>Girls, you are dating a guy and learn that he both got leg lengthening surgery and a hair transplant.>How do you feel about him after learning this?Ask him how tall he really was, make sure he's not ever in pain of any kind, make sure he makes an appointment every few months to check on his legs, healthy and if there's any complications.
>>32584136I’d dump him
>>32584138>So why are tampons so popular then?It depends if they were taught to use tampons at a young age and also sports.
>>32584140Genuinely pretty good
>>32584137I’m in the follicular stage. It just started today.
>>32584132Would you watch me stumble through a hobby I'm learning and am not quite proficient in?
M or FDo you like comic books?
>>32584151Why?
Thought about Anthony and I got wet again :/
>>32584154Based jambro keep it bumping
>>32584159F, does manga count? if so then hell yeah
>>32584037I get to wear perfume from Bath and Body Works and still be straight
>>32584162Maybe a little too on the nose, but still quite good https://youtu.be/9bv-wPYRMDI?si=8pp_mgqwO9R5Z8EJ
>>32584149in my case im 5'10
>>32584058I would be pretty fucked if I was married with kids and all of a sudden out of nowhere Anthony appeared near me
>>32584151I have neither of these and don't need them but go fuck yourself.
>>32584157Yes
>>32584168nta but 5'10 is perfectly tall where im from like what T^T
>>32584116“I don’t want to die from toxic shock, pad it is”Seriously, the only times I’d ever wear a tampon is in the pool or in the bathtub
>>32584169Bitch who the fuck is Anthony.
>>32584163Manga and comics are way different
>>32584178San Antonio di Padua
Women, do you like men who speak multiple languages, or is it something that is "whatever" to you?Besides English I know Spanish and some Japanese and German, I'm wondering right now if actually knowing Japanese is seen as cool or as weebshit, to decide if I focus on German or Japanese.
>>32584180And just who the fuck is that I said that outloud and Jesus came down to me and cussed me out in latin and hebrew for waking him up at 1am.
Smoking that dust at St. Anthony's Feasthttps://youtu.be/aBG1AUYxu4Y?si=POJB-tePUbt-086f
>>32584146I did though...Last time she was definetlyglancing at me couple times, i cant obviously say dor certain but she didnt smile to me no more walking pastFeels kinda sadAlso im cramping in my left hamstring like a motherfricker today
>>32584145>Beautiful Women.>Should you date a younger guy? What age gap would be acceptable?I have dated, he cheated and broke up with me
>>32584181speaking multiple languages is hot in certain cases. i had an ex who would switch to speaking korean around his parents hwern we were together- i found it super hot. it depends on how good they are at the language, alongside what theyre saying in itI'd reccomend japanese, german can sound quite harsh- especially when people learnign it as a second (or third or whatever) language speak it
>>32584188>I'd reccomend japanese, german can sound quite harshDubs are wasted on that recommendation
>>32584172Don’t get mad at me, dumb cunt. It’s not my fault I don’t want someone with plastic surgery to lie about themselves.>>32584160Getting surgeries like that is too insecure and unattractive. I’ll get together with him because I liked him naturally.
>>32584189honey, he looks like the statues on easter island but whatever floats your boat T^T
>>32584192>I’ll get together with him because I liked him naturally.Aka "he was naturally handsome and tall. Fake chads are still just genetic incels and deserve death teehee."
>>32584166>too on the noseNothing wrong with ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymnwa6RX5F4
>>32584130Yes plug me in
>>32584194Honey, you float my boat like no one else. Let's take a propose around the pond together.
>>32584195Not a woman, but I'd do the same towards a woman who got non-reconstructive plastic surgery
>>32584199sounds wonderous. im in.
>>32584168You don't need length leg surgery, you are at a good height
>>32584195(You) deserve death for attention seeking this damn hard, bud. Get to fucking sleep, whiny brat, and stop projecting your dumb assumptions onto every woman there is. “I” do not care about a man’s height if he’s 5’4” to 5’10”.
Women I forgot what I was going to ask you
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHi forgot to shower
>>32584204>5’4”Me mentioned
>>32584205It's over for 5'3"cels...
>>32584203I'll get some bread so we can make friends with the ducks
Japanese has got to be the 3rd most annoying language ever, behind Indian and Filipino
>>32584215<3
Femanons, how bicurious are you?
>>32584205That's a lot of rage for someone who claims not to be called out.
>annoying language>”indian”
>>32584218there is no "curious" part about it, im just bi 100%
>>32584196My current favorite "new" rock bandhttps://youtu.be/oAmTX8iwWAI?si=kqGbSGq9O8cwWXyD
>>32584192I understand the logic, but why do we think this about leg and hair surgery and not, say, braces for straightening teeth?
>>32584218Chomp on boobs
>>32584219>I said nothing about me being called outWhat are you even talking about? You start an argument, victimize yourself, I explain myself, you victimize yourself again. You have no idea what you want, miserable bitch. End of discussion.
>>32584222A real 50-50 bi?
>>32584229mhm
>>32584210You're at a good height too
>>32584052RememberIf I can't look at your face I will have to look at your feet
>>32584192>I liked him naturallyNo one likes anyone naturally
>>32584226I don’t think the same for hair or toupees. That’s like hair extensions or wigs for women. I don’t know.
>>32584224Pretty nice, something harder for a change of pace. My fav band in the new category.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwOOzfEqxCQ
>>32584231Gross
>>32584218>Femanons, how bicurious are you?I'm not. I wish I had perky pale boobas with normal sized areolas. Yet people irl probably think I am, I'm not. I like men, I like a man.
>>32584228Stay mad.
>>32584237boo hoo. looks like youre mad that i get pussy and you dont. incels baka
>>32584226Leg lengthening is bad because men get it and women don't. Why can't men just be more confident and secure in themselves without getting surgery that women don't get?
>>32584232Lol
>>32584197I'd be diving in.
>>32584238Brown saggy booba with oversized napoli? Neat.
>>32584240I don't care if you get pussy it's gross to be switching sides like thatPick one
>>32584241>women don'tWomen aren't judged for being tall all their lives.But since you cunts won't stop maybe men should start too.Who am I kidding men would fuck a tree if it spoke to them.
>>32584246the only thing thats gross is shaming random people on the internet for their sexuality. fuckin loser.
>>32584242I don't get what's funny, he is.
>>32584248Just date women if you want pussy so much
>>32583786Femanons.Manons here fight each other all the time, but have you ever been in a verbal altercation with another femanon? How playful/hateful was that encounter?
Girls How do you feel about Marshal Ney ordering his own death? How do you feel about men considering this to be an extremely honorable thing?
>>32584251Women are a hive mind they don't fight.
>>32584222Would you have MFF with your husband?
>>32584249That's me and it's funny because that's not a good height, I look like a goddamn shrimp.
>>32584250the same could be said for you
>>32584256yeah
>>32584236We're going hardcore?https://youtu.be/Sqp4Fm8Q-ds?si=lbnU46w8uK94ViCP
I love the smell of risen dough just before baking it into bread
Men which hardcore or post-hardcore band would you be most willing to listen to with me?
>>32584257That's because you're insecure
>>32584159MI used to be pretty big into western comics up until I finished high school. Not necessarily comics, but I've been kind of getting back into capeshit recently, though. Currently rewatching Justice League.
>>32584222would you like a man who had a hot female figure but also a dick?
>>32584266I used to look forward to going to DC just because father would play this album https://youtu.be/ksqNTU2LBPg?si=faze0mNajby57tZH
>>32584256>>32584262Red flag
>>32584174>>32584204By every objective measure, my status would improve by being taller. Because I sit underneath both the american societal 6 foot standard and the european and eastern societal 180cm standard.
>>32584267No it's because I am tiny. I'm probably smaller and weaker than you.
>>32584270not really into that kind of stuff.
>>32584251>Manons here fight each other all the time, but have you ever been in a verbal altercation with another femanon? How playful/hateful was that encounter?When I was younger yes, she was a bully and cunt. At this age, I would never engage in a fight for my health and I don't want to go jail.
>>32584277I swear to Christ I'm going to sling you over my shoulder and treat you like a living plushie
>>32584277Naw
>>32584266MI'm not a skin head or white supremacist but Angry Aryans is the only hardcore I can tolerate. Everything else is boring and I would ask you to turn that shit off while I'm around because I love you.
>>32584263Within reason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84wcWetvCTo
>>32584282Please do. I'm not him, I just want to see it happen.
>>32584284Yeah>>32584282You see how they wanna fuckin treat me? Nobody can see you as a man at this size.
>>32584187Sorry to hear that.
>>32584275/fit/He was a homosexual anyway
>>32584288I'll shove my foot up this anons ass if he tried>>32584282And this ones too>>32584288
>>32584294Who are you?
>>32584280With another femanon?
Women, would you go on a date with a man way shorter than you?I know you wouldn't marry him, but would you go on a date just for the life experience?
im so touchstarved its not even funny anymore T^T, yall got any kind of tips to cope with that?
>>32584306Touch yourself
>>32584306Sit on your hand until it falls asleep, and then hold hands with your hand.
>>32584304yea
>>32584301I did say I fought another girl when I was younger, she was a bully and cunt, two times, different girls for legit reasons.
>>32584310good idea
>gf told me today that if she ever found out I was heavily using again, she would break up with medoes she not realize that would probably just make me go off the deep end and OD?
>>32584316One more pill bro
>>32584312Femanons? Anonymous women on 4chan?
>>32584324No
>>32584286I used to be a cowboy https://youtu.be/tbNeCfIrYmY?si=AF3GItBSRxqeSZoX
>>32584318I'm clean right now, if only for the fact that I've been temporarily placed on medication that is EXTREMELY dangerous for me to mix with. She knows this and she also knows that she's one of the reasons why I'm still clean and that I'm going to try to limit my usage once I'm off these shitty meds.I don't want to lose her and it hurts that she even suggested leaving me.
>>32584331Shady.
I am big sad over the fact that I will never be a Western ruffian ever again. Girls, say something nice to me.
>>32584349its alright! you'll find something else to enjoy real soon!
Oh god some guy is e begging for funds for braces surgery through ads.It costs less to buy a 4chan ad than pay for braces. Which I know for a fact insurance doesn't cover because they declined my dentist when asked.What the fuck is wrong with the USA Jesus Christ.
>>32584355are braces really that inexpensive in other countries???
Women I am insecure about my height and penis. Would you date me?
>>32584365sure, most men are anyways
Men -if you were a woman would you fuck a guy you know only wants you for sex? He wants his dick wet and nothing else. He will lie to you, avoid you, and laugh/boast about fucking you to his friends — but end of the night he’ll still message you to jerk off to the thought/texts of fucking you.Would you allow it?
Women what's the coolest thing you're done?
>>32584376does 100% BOTW count? thats about the limit of my coolness im afraid T^T
>>32584374No, I would feel used. Especially since most likely I'm not going to cum
>>32584374If I were a woman I'd be a crack whore struggling to support my baby as a single mom by now so probably.
>>32584378Yes... I gave up on collecting korok seeds at like 200
>>32584383yayy, sad to see that you quit the korok seeds though
>>32584306Watch Maison Ikkoku. Watch massage videos. Hug big pillow. If possible stay a little bit drunk when alone. Socialize with anything you can (like atoga). Don't think about it too hard, just imagine yourself having comfort from an entity who's coming to see you any second now and just embrace the feeling.t. professional loneliness copemaster
>>32584388thanks! :)
>>32584380lol alright
350 years of landed nobility in the Russian Empire has led to some Irish Jew with a Southern twang who thinks he's a cowboy studying to be a physicist
>>32584374no
Women how often do you fantasize about cuddling? With men?
>>32584388Fee fi fo fum I smell the blood of an English bum who should give his sister, brother in law, and nice a big dqui
>>3258439424/7, all the time, i love physical touch
>>32584388Cuck anime
Women how perfect do you want your bf to be?
Women my arms are so very itchy. Help.
>>32584388*A big hugGo give your relatives a great big hug
>>32584405he doesent have to be perfect. i dojt expect him to be
>>32584374>He wants his dick wet and nothing else. He will lie to you, avoid you, and laugh/boast about fucking you to his friends — but end of the night he’ll still message you to jerk off to the thought/texts of fucking you.Women say this like it's a bad thing and then will fuck those same guys
>>32584408I don't believe you
>>32584408I believe you
>>32584414<3
>>32584408I want to believe you.
>>32584408I want you
>>32584419:)
>>32584379yeah the sex wasn’t that stellar. What kept me wanting it was the rush of hormones - and this really emotional connection that came with it. Like I could feel it in my gut and even now seeing him is like a jolt. I felt like I knew him without words. Not everything but like — he had this gnawing insecurity, and I knew he was in the process of getting over someone (he said nothing to imply it but small details made it obvious) — found out online he got divorced last year. Doesn’t mean I have a shot at anything. Already ruined that by being a slut too soon. He antagonized it but still, I did it. And I still don’t think he wants me, or if he does it’s all a mess now. Wish I could just tell him that I wish it had been different and I hope he stays safe and has a good life. I probably won’t get to see him again. It’s so crazy but sex with him helped me get over a really bad experience I had. Didn’t tell him that because it felt too heavy to mention. Aw, fuck man, what a life.
Women did you know if men run with pee in our balls you can hear it swishing around?
>>32583840Yep, quake was a good game.
>>32584408i dojt believe you
>>32584412MI think I feel the same way and am only interested in girls that aren't into me. What's wrong with me and how do I fix it?
>>32584412It’s a self worth issue. Women are definitely fucking guys like that. Most women stick around because of misguided emotional attachment and men like pussy, even stupid pussy.
Anon and femanon, sitting in a tree. K i s s i n g
Really excited to start a new game in The Sims 2 soon :)
>>32584238>Yet people irl probably think I amAre you a tomboy?
>>32584442thats fun! ive heard its really good
>>32584441First comes love!Then comes marriage!Then comes a baby in a baby carriage!AHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>32584407?I have no relatives around why do you think I'm so practiced at handling touch starvation
>>32584448Why are the kamisamas laughing?
>>32584240>youre mad that i get pussy and you dontAs a fellow incel, i can confirm 100% that this is why he's mad
Women please rate the following pet names from hot and cute to hottest and cutest>milk truck>fine shit>dump truck>femoid>braphog>mommy milkers>cum dump>semen demon>nigger
>>32584424The fuck with that BPDemon?
>>32584442This got me thinking that there must be a Sims multiplayer.Apparently there is for the Sims 4, some mod that lets you multiplayer online. I only play up to The Sims 2, of course, so I would never. Too bad there isn't The Sims 2 multiplayer with a singular /atoga/ residence for shenanigans.
>>32584457Tfw no gf to call nigger
>>32584449Are you not our charming English bum?
>>32584432One possibility is attachment issues. You never have to face your own emotional unavailability if you constantly have a partner who keeps you at a distance. It feels safe, having a partner who always is halfway out/not fully committed. You always feel like you have an escape plan. It won’t hurt as much when they leave because you planned for it already. Need to let yourself love fully. Need someone who accepts it.
>>32584460It's so ugly though. I hate old games for this reason.
>>32584462no, I am neither english nor charming nor a bum. I live on the streets of Chicango, between the corruption and the thugs
>sims is just doll house for big girlsThis makes so much sense
>>32584462None of those posts were qt-coded. Come to think of it I haven't seen him in a while, I wonder if he's strung out on fent under a bridge.
>>32584465I like old games for that precise reason. I actually prefer the feel of OG, it's just stupid limited in scope compared to Sims 2. The older graphics portray the vibe better, being less real, and it's less straining on the eyes because it's simpler
>>32584468uh hello the year is 2000
>>32584476no it's not
>>32584473What "vibe" bruh, it looks crude and lazy. If anything is worse on the eyes it's this monstrosity.
>>32584454the answer to that question is a big spoiler for the anime Shinsekai YoriBut basically a character goes on trial and makes a statement and gets met with laughter and no one taking him seriously.>>32584473Is that you and your junior high/high school oneitis with two kids?
>>32584479>Is that you and your junior high/high school oneitis with two kids?lol no I was hard up for ideas so I tried to make the Cerritos crew from Star Trek: Lower Decks. They were boring so it didn't last long
>>32584467Should I go celebrate with my fellow Irish-Americans March 17? Chicago looks like it has a fun party on the day of our patron saint.
>>32584445I love it a lot, it’s definitely my favorite game in the entire franchise. It’s got all these cool small details and it makes me nostalgic for the 2000s
>>32583656Im 35 and never moved out of my parents home. Basically a loser who does nothing work my min wagie job (which I at least enjoy) Should I move out of my parents house and into my sister's granny flat?It's has no toilet lol so I would need to go into the main house to shower and shit (I guess I can pee around the back in the compost heap)
>>32584489What the fuck country do you live in where a house doesn't have a toilet? India?
>>32584489Yes. Don't do anything illegal. Have good hobbies. Just because you don't fit the mold of modern society doesn't mean you aren't a person. Support that compost heap (unless you're taking medications or have a health condition then your pee might actually be bad for that compost heap)
>>32584494nta but a "granny flat" is a self-contained unit located on the property of single-family home. usually used as a place to stash grandma so she has a bit of her own privacy while living with you
>>32584494Nah its just this small room built in the back yard. I think the previous owners just had it as an office than an actual living space
WomenWould you rather date a man who says "holy shit" or "holy moly"?
>>32584358>are braces really that inexpensive in other countries???In most countries they're free.
>>32584505What about holy smokes
>>32584365>Women I am insecure about my height and penis. Would you date me?Absolutely not. Being short or small barely matters, but being insecure about either one is an instant deal breaker.
>>32584376>Women what's the coolest thing you're done?Hmm.... (ponders) Jumping out of an aeroplane for charity was fun.
Women, why are you such better kissers?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w74Q6Ln7Wpg&t=41s
>>32584374What the fuck kind of question is this? Obviously not. There's nothing necessarily wrong with being with someone only for sex, so long as everyone knows exactly where they stand and is okay with it. But lying about it has to be an automatic deal breaker. Bragging to friends isn't much better.
>>32584394>Women how often do you fantasize about cuddling? With men?I'm pretty much always either cuddling or thinking about cuddling, and often both.
>>32583659I'm short, unsuccessful and reclusive even on the internet.
>>32584406>Women my arms are so very itchy. Help.Scratch.
>>32584441>Anon and femanon, sitting in a tree. K i s s i n gWe only kiss under trees, not in them.
>>32584521I did they no longer itch :)
>>32584514My attention span is so fried I can't watch a whole video even if it's of girls making out
>>32584522>tfw no squirrel-esque gf
Women would you date a man who wakes up in the night screaming military callouts and bearings?
>>32584526what sort of military faggot would do that?
>>32584526We'd be sleeping in separate bedrooms anyway, so sure.
Genuine question looking for real responses from women. Is like 2.5 million dollars enough to make a man significantly more attractive at 50-55? I
Girls, would you let your son Billy Joe take his guns to town or would you tell him "Leave your guns at home, BillDon't take your guns to town"?
>>32584527A traumatized one>>32584528Are you Mormon or something
>>32584526Fuck off Yossarian. You figured out your trauma.
>>32584511How are you not supposed to be insecure about those things?
I want to love women but sometimes you guys make it really hard.
>>32584511>Being short or small barely mattersThis isn't true either.
>>32584514I hate looking at this video because I'm 25 and have never even kissed a woman let alone kiss for fun
>>32584532>A traumatized oneno seriously only a faggot would do that, stop pretending to be special
>>32584548Aren't all kisses for fun?
>>32584551I've never even been to war I'm just dicking around, if anyone is a faggot here it's you for having such a reaction to a shitpost.
>>32584556Lot of anons have very fragile masculinity for some reason
>>32584469I think I saw him yesterday. But that thread was pure chaos, so im not 100% sure.
Why is the thread so slow?
>>32584572Because it's 3 30 am retard
>>32584573>the world is the east coastI knew you Yankees were arrogant bastards, but not to this extent.
>>32584575Southerner here. Foreigners are extreme gay.
>>32584575Yes I know it's the morning or whatever in India but in the civilized world everyone is asleep.
>>32583772i am always happy to know about women's nipple erections
>LA fireswhat if ALL the cities burned down.What would women do?
Women if you stepped on the scale and it exploded would you cry
>>32583659just how the cards were dealt
>>32584588Sacramento is better than LA. In fact, minus SF, all of Northern California is better than LA.
Whenever I think about dating a femanon I end up reminding myself of this picture.
>>32583941The same applies to the "thicc" craze. Intelligent men think ahead, so they realize that such women quickly turn into total landwhales.
>>32584591Cry? I'd kms on the spot if I ever got that fat.
>>32584603But females hate intelligent men. You'll be more successful as a dumb brute, or if you act like one.
>>32584591>leahSounds like a fat girl name. "Lea" is alright, but the extra "h" is bloat. A bloated name for a bloated girl.
>>32584613In my view, the ideal man is smart AND strong.
>>32584620Like king Andrew Tate? He's apparently going to be the next PM of the UK.
>>32584622>Like king Andrew Tate?That retard converted to Islam and dismisses reading as a waste of time (as opposed to being a pimp).
Women how would you react if your bf pissed in the sink?
Women can I sit with you while you're doing stuff?
If the sink wasn't meant to be pissed in then why is it at such a convenient height for pissing into.
If God didn't want me pissing in the sink he wouldn't have made it more water efficient than the toilet.
>>32583659I rightfully dont have confidence in what I "bring to the table" so I don't try
>>32584643I'm a man and I think it's gross af, if you pissed in my sink I would beat you up.
>>32583718I think I would psychologically stop being attracted to her because even though he is visually indistinguishable from a hot woman, knowing, changes everything.
>>32584651Why would I piss in another man's sink? Sounds kinda gay.
If women want the toilet lid down then they should buy their own fucking toilet?
>>32584634>Women can I sit with you while you're doing stuff?If you're VERY quiet.
>>32584591>Women if you stepped on the scale and it exploded would you cryEr, yeah, cos my feet would be lacerated by the broken glass.
>>32584532>Are you Mormon or somethingEveryone needs their own space. And I'm a light sleeper - I can't sleep a wink if I'm in the same room as someone else.
>>32583915Jealous?
>>32583949I don't think is worth 18 bucks.
>>32583659
>>32583968I font want that, and if I did I would suppress it and admonish myself for being so shallow. I had the sense that if I told a woman I want her to get surgery and I will pay for it, she would break up with me on the spot.
>>32584577Self immolation
>>32583968all roads lead to men giving you money, don't worry.
Femanons, there's a misandry thread on /gif/ if you'd like to laugh at our expense >>>/gif/28373499
>>32584331There are orthodox cowboys?
>>32584251They keep any intragender issues on their discord server. Atoga is for moid slaying
>>32584600That's what pretty much any old couple looks like
The female form... It hurts...
>>32583659Because I'm asocial and don't generally enjoy putting myself in social situations, where I would have a chance to meet women.
>>32584695NTA but heightism wasn't so prevalent.
I want tens of thousands of women to send me personalized nudes every day and not expect any response
>>32584668>mfw I’m the third oneI think my issue is that I have a oneitis that I haven’t let go of. Also, online dating is getting me basically nowhere.
I masturbated yesterday. It makes me a little sad, as I would have greatly preferred to have had sex instead. Or to have gotten a blowjob, or a handjob. Life is rough.
>>32584703Shapeshifting again?
>>32584788I wanna be rough with your balls.
>no girl has ever liked me
>>32584630Also piss in the sink, so our pee can amalgamate into a tincture of love.
>>32584680I thought /gif/ was the porn board. Didn't know there's threads on there that are dedicated to other things.
>>32584689>Atoga is for moid slayingAtoga is just women insulting and humiliating the incels hoping to drive them to suicide
>>32584803Sorry, not into it.
>>32584788I failed nofap again, 19 days :(
>>32584821Nofap is fucking stupid, so good on you for ending it.
>>32583968if men don't want you then you're incredibly uglyI'm sorry
>>32584822Why do you want anon to fap? That's pretty gay.
>>32584822he's not gonna fuck so what's it matter right
>no girl likes me
>>32583718>Would you still be sexually attracted to her?Yes, by definition. But I'd be very uncomfortable about it.>>32583762>we don't just see someone and pop a boner instantly.I did when I was young.>>32583772Thank you for sharing.>>32583949Does it smell nice? Does it taste good? Does it make your lips softer?>>32583998A random pretty girl smiled at me years ago and I still remember the event.>>32584005Depends on how bad it is I guess, but shaving it all off would probably look better than having it patchy. Wear a wig or just own the baldness.>>32584006You're the one for someone.>>32584018>So you know how some people exist who like sugar cookies more than chocolate chip cookies?No, those people don't exist.>>32584052Sorry I don't think there's anything I can do for you over an anonymous internet board.
>>32584266No clue. You'd have to be the one to educate me. Black Flag is the only band name I know.>>32584306Find someone to hug you.>>32584374This hypothetical question has too many caveats.>>32584656MThe toilet lid SHALL be closed while flushing. There's absolutely no reason to open it again until next time you need the toiler.Hence the the toilet lid is to always be closed when the toilet is not in use.
>>32584841>There's absolutely no reason to open it again until next time you need the toiler.What if you want to clean the lid?
>>32584826I just think following dumb ideologies is dumb.>>32584827Unless someone can't stop themselves from masturbating, to the point that it's negatively affecting their life like any other addiction, restricting yourself from having orgasms is stupid.
>>32584848I pretty much am addicted. I used to jerk until I was bleeding.
>>32584846Yeah sure. But might as well keep the lid closed after that again. How hard is that.
>>32583789They're not all pickmes, SweetAnita is misandrist, for example.
>>32584848>Unless someone can't stop themselves from masturbating, to the point that it's negatively affecting their life like any other addiction, restricting yourself from having orgasms is stupid.Never said he should stop masturbating. I'm just saying he'll never get a gf or have sex because he's an incel
>>32584854Oh, that's fucked up. I thought you were one of the dipshits who unironically used terms like "semen retention", but if you're just trying to stop yourself from making your dick bleed, that's fine.
>>32584855>But might as well keep the lid closed after that again. How hard is that.Agreed, I was just joking.
WomenA woman wants me to do something to her which, while I can't deny the thought of it is hot, will surely lead to her grievous injury or death.What is the correct way to turn her down?
>>32584861Is that the one with the tourettes?
>>32584864>"semen retention"Yeah, that's some bullshit.
if she's not like this, I dont want herhttps://i.4cdn.org/gif/1736400568298102.webm
>>32584870Yes
>>32584876Wtf? How'd you get footage of Sarge and Swiss?
>>32584878Not that I've ever seen more than glimpse of her, but I'm surprised to hear she's an actual misandrist, if that is indeed true.
>>32584876What the actual fuck? I hate humanity.
>>32584882>if that is indeed trueI think misandry is hot, so it's possibly motivated reasoning.
>>32584869Telling her straight up that it sounds too unsafe to participate in should be fine if it's that obvious.
>>32584891because you see two people in love?
GenderIs this true?
WomenWould you date a guy that helps the stray cats that live at his workplace?
>>32584897MNo, tranime is often pedophilic
>>32584897MNo as self-evident by the pedo avatar of the tranime fan in question
>>32584897MYes, if you dislike anime you are a degenerate.
>>32584896No, because people in love should not be behaving like that.People should not be behaving like that, period.
>>32583730Seething
>>32584906Did you hear black is the new white?
>>32584907oh sorry, I didnt know only vanilla relationships were allowed in these threads.pardon me.
>>32584913Abusive relationships are not ok anywere.
>>32584918that isnt abuse though? Its just roughplay, passion is flowinglook how wholesome they are at the end
Girls, would you take a paternity test if your bf/husband asked for one?
>>32584907Pretending that you didn't date Chad is pickme behavior.
>>32584919>that isnt abuse though?You're an idiot.
>>32583659I think its because of a combination of things. Low self esteem and self hatred, i am too embarassed by anything sexual to even begin to flirt, my personality and interests are not very masculine which contrasts with my body, I'm submissive and shy which in general is a turn off in a guy.That's my theory anyways
>>32584924>he's never fought in a relationshipThats how people work things out
>>32583672I'm jealous I hope they do a re run!
>>32584919>isnt abuseit is whatever she makes it to be and the judge will tell her she's right
>>32584927>Thats how people work things outI hate humanity.
>>32583672You're going to nut on it, aren't you?
>>32584931>he never dated a russian girlshe started the fight, whats why he was covered in blood and she wasnt
>>32584927>Thats how people work things outI'm going to stay alone forever unable to understand human communication
>>32584937Yeah if I ever dated a Russian/Hispanic/Jewish/French/Italian/Irish/WHATEVER woman who used her culture or ethnic thing to batter me whenever she felt like it, it would end poorly for her.
>>32584937>she started the fight, whats why he was covered in blood and she wasnthe will still go to jail and she won't be punished at all because in modern society no woman could ever do anything bad
What do I do if I miss him so bad I can barely function?I've tried spending time with friends, I've tried throwing myself into work and hobbies, but everything just feels like a meaningless temporary distraction.
>>32584936>on>not inPutting in a removable and fuckable component makes cleanup easy and prevents stains.
My reaction speed is so fast, I feel the pain of rejection before I even talk to the girl.
>>32584944how every girl feels after chad pumps and dumps them
>>32584943not in russia, that wouldnt even go to the courtroom. its a domestic dispute
>>32584947no you're just an incel and you know women will always reject you why do you talk to women if they will only reject you and hurt you?
>>32584944>when femanon manages to be the fifth girl Chad fucked one dayPathetic.
>>32584949yes even in russia retard but obviously I'm talking about the west since I don't live in some frozen shithole
>>32584944>everything just feels like a meaningless temporary distractionSuch is life. Stay healthy and time will heal your wound.
>>32584950Nta, but are you retarded? He literally says he can feel the rejection before he even talks to the girl. He never said he actually talks to them.
>>32584948>>32584951That's not the situation at all you fucking goonrotted retards. We never had sex or a relationship. I'm in love with him and he had to leave somewhere for a year.
>>32584955scared of a scratch or two?
>>32584944Do what the other alpha widows do and go on a streak of casual sex.
>>32584876God I want this with my Russian crush except we never actually fight (I hate conflict and will always mediate), this is just our sex life and how we show affection and desire
>>32584947>>32584958Self inflicted pain.If you never talk to the girl you never give her the chance to reject you, meaning the pain you feel is from you rejecting yourself. Logic.
>>32584960>chad can leave her dry for a year and she'll get wet for him on command
>>32584961>scared of a scratch or two???? no woman has ever been interested in me so I don't understand your question
>>32584897FIt's true that a lot of critiques of anime are leftist: "There's no diversity!""The women are too pretty! They should weigh 400 lbs instead!""The women are too cute and feminine!"
>>32584965it's still right though because the woman would've rejected him anywaysno woman wants him that's why he's an incel
>>32584944The pain subsidies eventually. You'll probably look back someday and wonder how you ever felt that way about him.
looking for a femanon who would be willing to subject our kid to the verstappen project and create the next F1 champion
>>32584965Or it could be an accurate assessment of the facts.
>>32584971she just need to find a new chad to fuckthen she'll forget all about her previous chad
>>32584946How much did it cost you?
>>32584969Moid hands
>>32584973You need to have a lot of money for him to become a champion at an obscure "sport" that nobody watches.
>>32584978Nothing, I'm just larping.
>>32584973So you'd like me to fuck Verstappen, get knocked up and raise the kid?
>>32584956>>32584971Thanks anons. I don't think I'll ever look back and wonder how I ever felt that way about him though. He didn't do anything wrong and there's always that gnawing sense of what might have been because I never even got the chance to ask him out or tell him how I felt before he left. It could've been the world's best relationship, I'll just never know.>>32584962>>32584966>>32584976If you want to know, he's a khhv I met on 4chan. I'm not attracted to Chads/alphas and am only into shy virgin men.
>>32584986thats not what ''project verstappen'' is.
>>32584986Yep just like a normal woman, fuck chad and make your beta bux raise it.
>>32584965Femanon, he's saying he knows that he'd be rejected, which is painful.
>>32584980Nuh-uh.
>>32584987>If you want to know, he's a khhv I met on 4chan. I'm not attracted to Chads/alphas and am only into shy virgin men.it's sweet to lie but we all know it's a chad
>>32584988>"there could be femanons here" he thought
>>32584897f, thats stupid>>32584969uhh yeah, ok
>>32584991>FemanonAm moid.
>>32584997Anon, quit your whining. I'm an incel too, but you're fucking obnoxious.
>>32584997They do tend to lie here. Any time they talk about their ex who cheated and you ask him if he was tall, they always say no and that he was fat and ugly and friendless apparently.
>>32584995Why do you have moid opinions, then?
>>32584988So what is it then?
>>32584987>It could've been the world's best relationship, I'll just never know.But if he's coming back in a year...?
>>32585010we physically and mentally abuse the child into a cold and bloodthirsty racer (and racist) while funneling millions into his career
Men, how often do you have dreams? Would keep an honest dream journal specifically so your gf could read about them?
>>>/gif/28364840Femanons, why are you like this?
>>32585013I feel like he'll probably forget about me and move on
>>32585002>Anon, quit your whining. I'm an incel too, but you're fucking obnoxious.if you stopped lying to yourself you'd know I'm telling you the truth >>32585003exactly whereas in reality their bfs were chads they don't want to describe chad as chad after it's over because the female is emotionally wrought that she was unable to hold on to chadsome females with self esteem issues tend to pretend their bf isn't a chadJust ask yourself the question why would you date an ugly man if you could date a chadWell women can and are doing soincels don't get attention
>>32585014Okay. But I don't have the millions
>>32583843That poster reminds me of that Gumball episode where Anais was censored since she wasn’t included in the Chinese knock-off for that reason.>>32583966Don’t think many eighteen year olds are looking to date for marriage. Plus, I don’t go out nearly enough to meet any lolI would also like to work on myself before then.>>32584037I get to be a girly girl>>32584058I genuinely don’t believe it’s possible since once I am seriously interested in someone (it’s been years), I WILL believe he’s the most handsome.At the very least, I would not mention the looks of any other man because I would be very upset if that happened to me.
>>32585015I don't have a gf and I will never have one as no girl has ever shown interest in me I'm certain you only asked this question to torture incels by making them further realise they'll never be loved or even deserve love according to women.
>>32585015Rarely. But this question reminded me that tonight I dreamt about my high school girlfriend finding a new elaborate way to break up with me.
>>32585014best i can do is being a bpd mom (no money)
>>32584037Being able to schlick in public by shaking my leg while they're crossed. The seam of tight jeans must've genuinely been made to ride like that.
>>32584037get to make incels commit suicide by having them beg for attention and then not giving them any.
>>32585017Maybe. Maybe you'll make him remember you again when he gets back. Maybe you will be the one who moves on. Who knows.
>>32585024>>32585020Dont worry about the money, I'll get that part done. I just need you to provide me with a son and the location to the nearest petrol station
>>32585024>best i can do is being a bpd mom (no money)sounds like you know how to really permanently damage a child into never being normal again Hopefully you only do it to the boys so they'll commit suicide at a young age while the girls grow up happily
>>32585021>Don’t think many eighteen year olds are looking to date for marriage.Has this become the new meta nowadays? You're only allowed one relationship in your life?
>>32584869>What is the correct way to turn her down?You remind her that the foundation stone of BDSM is "safe, sane and consensual", and point out that this is neither safe nor sane.
>>32585033i know i probably shouldnt say this but i actually really dont want a boy. i dont think i could love them the same
>>32585017chad will probably move on yes>>32585029chad decides and his women follow
>>32585015>Men, how often do you have dreams?Everyone dreams every night, we just usually don't remember it. In my case, I can go months without remembering any dreams, then remember a bunch over several weeks.>Would keep an honest dream journal specifically so your gf could read about them?No, because dreams are fucked up and weird. I've never cheated in a relationship, yet I've had many dreams about fucking other women when I've been in relationships. I've had a dream/nightmare where I killed a beloved family pet in a really cruel way, and I felt disgusted with myself about it for a long time. I also have typical nonsensical dreams, of course, but I feel like a GF who'd want to know about all my dreams would look take the really messed up ones seriously. They're just dreams.
>>32585025Hot.
>>32585037so abort the boys unless you think it's funnier to have them and mentally scar them until they commit suicide from the bullying if that's what you want to do then go for it the courts will protect women anyways so it's not like you can do anything wrong
>>32585007Because I spend a lot of time on 4chan.
>>32585041>yet I've had many dreams about fucking other women when I've been in relationshipsWhat if that's specifically why she wants to read about your dreams? To confirm that you're just as fucked in the head as her when it comes to just dreams?
>>32585043she will never do it for you because you're just qn incel
>>32585043Only to myself. Nobody would ever be able to tell.
>>32585036NTA. This will probably be the best reply this thread will see all day.
>>32585048she could probably get him sent to jail if he ever dreams about having sex
>>32585015Having dreams correlates with going to bed at normal times and having a normal sleep schedule. I normally sleep too little during the week and catch up on sleep on weekends at ungodly times, so I normally don't dream much. When I dream, it tends to be terrifying and I'd rather forget about it.
>>32585048I guess that's fine? I'd feel exposed in a weird way, though, and I don't think that hearing about her dreams would make it feel even, since it's not a big interest of mine.
>>32585052You just told me. The thought is hot.
>>32585056What would be a fair trade?
>>32585058Fuck.
>>32585045i dont think id abort, because me getting pregnant is a miracle (possible but likely to lead to miscarry). i would still try to raise them the best i can
>>32585021>once I am seriously interested in someone (it’s been years), I WILL believe he’s the most handsome.This has been my experience with the women I've dated. The downside, though, is that their perception will also rapidly shift in the other direction if they're mad at you. If they think you've done something bad, all of a sudden they'll find you ugly and annoying. Nothing you do will make them happy or laugh, as all of your lighthearted jokes are now considered cringeworthy and immature. You can't charm them, you can't soothe them, all you can do is sit on your hands and wait for their perception to hopefully shift back. It sucks.
>>32585061You just want to humiliate incels by using their dreams against them or threatening to call the cops if they dream about other women.
>>32585061I honestly don't know. It would have to be specific to the woman, like if there was something I really wanted to do with her that she was similarly uncomfortable with.
>>32585070You don't need to if it's a son though. Incel sons can more easily be aborted than the effort it takes to try and fail to raise them right.But if they kill themselves during puberty after a lifetime of bullying and humiliation from their own family and every other environment they've ever been in, then I guess that could also be funny. At least he'll give you some entertainment for his worthless incel life.
>>32583718There no such thing as satan
>>32585079not like a woman would actually ever want to have anything to do with an incel like you
>>32585079It sucks that it has to be such a blatant exchange of discomfort, but I guess that's the easiest way to justify it.
>>32585072No you're just an incel and she never thought you were funny or handsomewomen don't tell ugly not funny incels that theyre ugly and not funnyit's much funnier to them to abuse the incels for resources and attention and them leave him confused as to why he isn't able to obtain any lovewomen will do this until the incel kills himself out of depression which is what really makes women happy
>>32585046Maybe spend some time on lolcow & crystal cafe to de-radicalize yourself?
>>32584159I love Tintin! I read the books and used to watch the 1992 TV showhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zIm461AT8MA&pp=ygUTVGludGluIHNob3cgb3BlbmluZw%3D%3D>>32584304I’d love someone my height>>32584306I hug my pillow at night>>32584394All the time. Every day. I want>>32584920I mean, yeah. I wouldn’t be upset, even though I believe in my own loyalty.
>>32585025>shaking my leg while they're crossedOh shit, I've seen women do this!
>>32585088Women will go through every kind of discomfort to fulfill Chad's desires but will never think it's okay to go through any discomfort for their betabux loser boyfriend
>>32585014WE GAAN
>>32585088I mean, thinking on it more, if a woman managed to make me feel good and (emotionally) rewarded for sharing such information, that would change things. It's just kind of difficult to imagine those interactions.
>>32585021Would you date an older guy?
>>32585103Women date chads if you're not a chad then you're worthless incel trash
>>32584920>Girls, would you take a paternity test if your bf/husband asked for one?No, of course not. And I'd divorce him on the spot, and never let him see his kid again. Most women would.
>>32585018>if you stopped lying to yourself you'd know I'm telling you the truthNo, I think you're correct. But whining is annoying regardless.
>>32583718I've seen an honestly hot AF woman who I wasn't attracted to because she was visibly bitchy in general to the point of being repellent.
>>32585108Why? Are you insane?
>>32584944>What do I do if I miss him so bad I can barely function?Wait. It really is the case that time heals all wounds. In the mean time just keep trying to distract yourself.
>>32585108beta bux should be quiet and never even consider the possibility she's cheating on him with chadit's the only value incels have to women they pay for Chad's children
>>32585015I had a dream last night where my brother massacred me with a chainsaw.
>>32585096To be fair, it takes a deliberate attempt to get it just right. So don't assume everyone is masturbating in public.>>32585101Well I wouldn't want to make a bf associate feeling uncomfortable with me being physically or emotionally rewarding. I want him to be comfortable and satisfied overall, not have it feel conditional.
>>32585109>No, I think you're correct. But whining is annoying regardless.it's not whiningit's best if women stopped lying about it and openly bullied men to suicide
>>32585118At least you haven't had sex dreams about your brother. Those will go with me to my grave.
>>32585015>Men, how often do you have dreams?That I remember, almost never. I only ever retain any memory of it if I wake up in the middle of it, and even then it fades completely in a matter of minutes. No, I wouldn't keep a journal.
How was your sex in your dreams last night, /atoga/?In my dream last night I got masturbated and given a prostate massage by an elderly Filipina woman on the bus seat next to me.
>>32585120>Well I wouldn't want to make a bf associate feeling uncomfortable with me being physically or emotionally rewarding. I want him to be comfortable and satisfied overall, not have it feel conditional.chad gets everything and incels like me deserve suicide
>>32584920No
>>32585121Sounds like some sub fetish shit, disgusting. Get some help.
>>32585124F. Had another sexual nightmare. No actual sex this time, but still too much.
>>32585113Being asked for a paternity test doesn't come across to women as "trust but verify", it comes across as "I think you cheated on me, having full-on unprotected sex with another man, and that you're so heartlessly cruel that you'd make me raise another man's child." It's no wonder they take such offense.
>>32585134Sorry to hear that
My girlfriend like to just randomly mash her face into my crotch and smell by balls/dick. She says she loves it. I get that there is a pheromone component to attraction and love, but is this normal? Do any other girls do this?
>>32585108>never let him see his kid again>his kid
>>32585137You get used to them in a way eventually. By the time I made my morning coffee, I was over it.
>>32585134You got raped!
>>32585136>that you'd make me raise another man's child." It's no wonder they take such offense.NTA, but it supposedly happens around 25-30% of the time
>>32585138Very normal. It's only ever possible to be blatant and obvious about it with a bf like that, though.
>>32585132>Sounds like some sub fetish shit, disgusting. Get some help.no just the truth of being 29 and never having encountered any girl to show me any interest I'm alone and will die alone without having experienced romance or lovethat much is obvious to meThe only type of love I can get from women is when they suggest me to commit suicideno woman would ever consider giving me any other type of love
>>32585148Leave the thread dude
>>32585146yes only chad gets to be valued sexuallyincels get to commit suicide
>>32585113>Why? Are you insane?No. This is simply what all women would do under those circumstances. As a man, you need to understand that you have exactly two options in this situation, and that there are NO other possibilities. Option 1: you don't ask for a test. Option 2: you ask for a test, and you never see your wife or your child again. Your problems stem from the fact that you falsely believe there must be somehow be another option. Once you finally understand that there isn't, the situation will get a lot more comfortable for you. (To be fair, there is one exception to this, which is when the woman actually doesn't know who the father of the child is. Then, she may want to take the test to find out. So, if she agrees to the test, she's guaranteed to be cheating on you. But she probably isn't cheating, and so won't agree.)
>>32585120>Well I wouldn't want to make a bf associate feeling uncomfortable with me being physically or emotionally rewarding.Sorry, that's not what I meant. I meant that you'd make me feel good ABOUT sharing such vulnerable thoughts. Making the act not be so uncomfortable. Just being genuinely appreciative and non-judgmental.
>>32585146I'd let a fwb do that
>>32585035I suppose you’re right. I’m mostly just afraid of heart break. I want to love one man and be devoted to him for the rest of my life, ideally with him having the same mentality.>>32585072>The downside, though, is that their perception will also rapidly shift in the other direction if they're mad at you.Oh, man. The tragedy of a person’s once admired traits slowly becoming the object of scorn.I may also find myself guilty of what you just described too. I would love to be called pet names, but I imagine scenarios where if I were in an argument and he were still calling me them, I would be like, “Why are you still calling me that…?”I’m sorry to hear you’ve been worn down by this. Perhaps I could avoid doing that in future now that I know.>>32585103I don’t go out looking for people lolThis reminds me of someone I knew. He was 39 and I thought he was beautiful. He was dating a woman in her late 20s, a coworker.She got mad at him for reasons I don’t know and they broke up. She would deliberately avoid him, and I felt so bad that he would sit alone in the break room since he was the more mature one. You know, not wanting to cause any more trouble between them. I kept him company during his last days at the job because I didn’t want him to be alone. But I thought, that woman is like ten years older than me, so imagine what kind of a pain I would be to someone of his age.It’s true I’m generally attracted to older men, but I don’t think it would be wise for me to date them, for the man’s sake. At least not for now.
>>32585117If she agrees to take the test, she's cheating.
>>32585124I had a sex dream about a femanon once
>>32585138>is this normal? Do any other girls do this?Mm-hm. Yah. Many.
>>32585154Okay, that makes more sense. Sounds ideal.>>32585157I wouldn't do that with a FWB if I had one. Too easy to fall in love that way.
>>32585150why? i will never be valued by women so having them tell me to kill myself is the only way to even interact with themIt's good to talk to women, even if I'm not a chad and deserve only suicideor should I not talk to women at all? why not?
>>32585160Last night I dreamt that somebody loved me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WCnl1VTEeg
>>32585154>Sorry, that's not what I meant. I meant that you'd make me feel good ABOUT sharing such vulnerable thoughts. Making the act not be so uncomfortable. Just being genuinely appreciative and non-judgmental.Yep this is what chad gets. Emotional vulnerability and love. Incels deserve to kill themselves as women laugh at their lifelong suffering.
>>32585081my son would not be an incel, omg i think i would actually kill myself if he became one
>>32585163You'd fall in love with a guy just from huffing his balls a lot? Huh.
Women, if your bf suddenly says that he'll never ask for a paternity test because he is getting a vasectomy in an hour, what would your reaction be?
>>32585170You shouldn't kill yourself over what your loser failure son becomes. You're a woman you can always have another child with a chad and make betabux losers raise it. And if it's another son just bully him for years until he commits suicide before hitting puberty.
>>32585172>Women, if your bf suddenly says that he'll never ask for a paternity test because he is getting a vasectomy in an hour, what would your reaction be?Thank God, I can get rid of this coil and have normal periods again.
>>32585171It's embarrassing and intimate, so at that point it'd pretty much be just as involved as sex. Doing that shit would definitely lead to feelings developing.
>>32585164A grill is a grill, this is surely soowoh
>>32585182chad makes women fall in love with him by forcing them to sniff his ballsno woman would even think of me in a positive wayI genuinely don't know a single woman who holds positive views of meI should commit suicide for being worthless
>>32585180And fries should be fries either way
>>32585186You should commit suicide for being so Goddamn annoying.
>>32585172Bill Holden couldn’t be with the love of his life, Audrey Hepburn, since she wanted children and he had a vasectomy from a previous marriage. I believe that exacerbated his alcoholism, which ultimately led to his untimely demise.I would generally try to discourage vasectomies. Unless you’re dead set on not having children or something.
>>32585186But this grill is not a home, this is not the stove I knowww
>>32585143>it supposedly happens around 25-30% of the time
>>32583656>Husband los this virginity to his childhood crush/friend>Whenever she's around I can tell he seems to have this stupid little crush on her stillI'm not worried he will do anything but why does she have such a profound effect on him. I tease him about it which he denies but I can tell he just lights up a little or seems like he gets butterflies when he knows she's going to be at a certain event we are going to.
>>32585185I don't understand that sentence. Why should I leave the thread if all I'm trying to achieve is to be loved the in only way an incel could, by asking women to tell me to commit suicide.Am I not allowed to have love?
>>32585180i think i would just pay for him to see a prostitute if he became 18 and hadnt had sex
>>32585196I would trade it all away!If you'd come back to stay!
>>32585153If she loves me, she would take the test and keep loving me. It would make our relationship stronger if I knew 100% that she didn't cheat.
>>32585189thanks
>>32585181A guy isn't considered sterile until he has a test about 3 months later, and he should have 20-30 orgasms in that time to make sure all the semen is out of his system. So you'll have to wait a bit, and hopefully help him with those orgasms.
>>32585197That wouldn't fix the underlying issue though.
>>32585190>I would generally try to discourage vasectomies.Men's bodies, women's choice?
>>32585199NTA, but being faithful requires faith to be involved, not constant scientific reassurance at the expense of trust.
>>32585189You just made him bust the fattest, thickest, saltiest nut of his life!
>>32585193Is it bad that I would be genuinely crushed by this, even while acknowledging that it is somewhat natural and hold no resentment for it?>>32585197That would be kind of awkward coming from your own parent AHAHA
>>32585199You see what I mean? Your problem is that you think there must be somehow be other options. There aren't, never have been, and never will be. Once you finally accept the reality of that, you will be so much happier.
>>32585172I wouldn't marry a guy who couldn't put babies in me. It's just a necessary part of my life goals.
>>32585197why bother?If he's not a chad at 18 then it's not going to happen just bully him until he kills himselfhire the prostitute only to laugh at him and not fuck him to further push him towards suicide I've had a lot of female rejection and it really helps to make you feel suicidal so you girls really know how to do it right
>>32585124Just like real lifeI didn't have any
>>32585189I told you that you shouldn't talk to mentally ill faggots.
>>32585209No, but waiting for marriage is based.
>>32585204Yes, I know that, anon (eyeroll) but at least I've got something to look forward to.
>>32585193chad has two women fighting over him for years while incels get bullied to suicide
>>32585208>the fattest, thickest, saltiest nut of his lifeIs JH here? I'd like to hear her opinion on this vivid description.
>>32585221You guys should shut the fuck up, that's my input.
>>32585218Yep making sure your betabux partner is infertile is probably very funny for women
>>32585222Imagine the smell!
>>32585215what's wrong with telling me to commit suicide?
Men, what careers are a green flag in women?
>>32585224This kitchen's not the sameWithout you!
>>32585206God you're stupid. People can voice whatever opinions they want. Women object to abortion restrictions not because of being "discouraged" from having an abortion, but because it makes abortions outright illegal. If women were making vasectomies illegal, you'd have a point, but discouraging it is fine.
>>32585225We were talking about ball sniffing, why do you assholes have to ruin everything?
Do women like hearing men moan when having sex?
>>32585205im not raising an incel either way. i would encourage him to meet girls in school, make sure he has a sports hobby and does well academically.>>32585209>That would be kind of awkward coming from your own parent AHAHAi dont really think so. if hes so awkward at 18 that would help him at least get over being a virgin and he can go to parties or whatever and have confidence>>32585213hes not going to be an incel, but this is a last effort attempt. incels only happen because they have pent up virgin frustrations
>>32585230NEET
>>32585230Astronaut
>>32585234The breathy thing they do is fucking hot, especially when it becomes a light vocalisation/grunt just as they're about to cum.
>>32585229It's just a greasy spoonJust a greasy spoonWithout you!
>>32585234Not particularly, unless he's moaning words I can understand. Ideally my name.
>>32585218Not everyone knows that, femanon. I'm sorry for trying to share information. I got a vasectomy recently, so I've been doing a lot of reading about it.
>>32585236>hes not going to be an incel, but this is a last effort attempt. incels only happen because they have pent up virgin frustrationsnah genetically inferiority makes you an incelchad can be a virgin for 20 years and still talk to women like a chadincels simply can't and they need to commit suicide
>>32585244Uh, uh, uh, femanon! Uhhhhhhghhh
>>32585242I don't understand this post
>>32585249If a guy I'm dating called me "femanon" during sex, I think I'd just kms.
>>32585218He's just looking out for a brother
>>32585199>If she loves me, she would take the test and keep loving me. It would make our relationship stronger if I knew 100% that she didn't cheat.NTA. This is simultaneously breathtakingly hypocritical and utterly retarded. 1) If you loved her, you wouldn't suspect her of cheating. 2) The test doesn't prove she isn't cheating, anyway; as far as the test is concerned, she could be fucking 3 different men every single day, and it just happened, by pure coincidence, to be you that fertilised the egg this time.
>>32585230I'm an incel with zero dating prospects
>>32585233Sorry
>>32585244>unless he's moaning words I can understanda guy once told me how good my pussy felt and i nearly laughed
>>32585067I'm going to add the though to me noticing you doing that when you think no one notices, to my repertoire of fantasies. And then you noticing me noticing.
>>32585232Eventually the state might make vasectomies illegal and we won't have an entire social movement protesting against that.
>>32585255thisbeta bux losers should shut the fuck up and let chad impregnate her while they pay for the child
>>32585251NTA I think it's a song
>>32585257You better be.>>32585259That kind of descriptive shit is exactly what I'm into, actually. I get that it can come across as silly, though.>>32585261Nobody notices in the moment. You can pretend to have this revelation retroactively, but you'll completely forget about all this in like six hours anyways.
>>32585224>Yep making sure your betabux partner is infertile is probably very funny for womenDid you reply to the wrong person? My coil gives me heavy periods; it would be nice not to have to put up with that any more. I don't know where you get "funny" from.
>>32585190shut the fuck upbeta bux incels should be forced got get vasectomies>>32585232they should ban vasectomies for chad and enforce vasectomies for beta bux incels
>>32585230Women's careers are not important because no matter what they do, I still have to earn more and be more financially stable than them.
>>32585236>i would encourage him to meet girls in school, make sure he has a sports hobby and does well academically.Nurture does surprisingly little when it comes to the development of personality traits. You can force kids to do certain things and possibly delay their individuality taking over, but at some point they will rebel against your interventions. Befriending girls does not imply being attractive to them or making the required effort to take a friendship to a deeper level, formally partaking in sports does not protect from being withdrawn, and relatively unsocial even while sharing spaces with others. Doing well academically, while also rooted in innate giftedness and the diligent type of personality to apply it, is no sure-fire protection against inceldom either.I've seen data where it was suggested that incels were actually - compared to the general population - above average in academic achievement - more commonly graduating high school and attaining college degrees. However, they tend to earn less than people on their respective level of academic achievement, i.e. they are relative underachievers.
>>32585259>a guy once told me how good my pussy felt and i nearly laughedReally? It's true though!
>>32585234>Do women like hearing men moan when having sex?There are always exceptions, but most women I know really like it, yeah. Involuntary moans are what we're after!
>>32585266>Did you reply to the wrong person? My coil gives me heavy periods; it would be nice not to have to put up with that any more. I don't know where you get "funny" from.Incels suffering is prime entertainment for chads and women. Else I don't understand why women and chads keep so many incels around. So their suffering must be funny to you. Making sure those betabux losers can never have children must then obviously be even more funny to you.
>>32585093What's your height?
>>32585266There's some retard posting as often as he can about Chad and incels and betabux and so on. Just ignore him.
>>32585270>However, they tend to earn less than people on their respective level of academic achievement, i.e. they are relative underachievers.ha yes incels are such total losers they get high grades and then earn less than everybody else because no one values a worthless incel
>>32585277She's 5'10".
>>32585259>a guy once told me how good my pussy felt and i nearly laughedIt probably did feel really good. Why was that funny?
>>325852775’3”
>>32585279It's just the truth. The tinder data shows the 90/10 is true.
>>32585276Are you all right, anon?
>>32585282Either that, or (which is more likely) the same personality traits that make them incels are also responsible for being less likely to ask for a raise, or apply for jobs that are technically below their level of expertise due to lacking the confidence to aim higher.
>>32585284>>32585273ive just never had a compliment like that during sex before, men usually call me a bitch or a whore or whatever. it was really nice actually and he was such a sweet guy. i miss him a lot...
>>32585287Dang, not many dudes that small.
>>32585284>It probably did feel really good. Why was that funny?only loser incels say that chad wouldve made her orgasm
>>32585276You specifically are entertaining ngl, thanks for a laugh.
>>32585287I'm 5'4" and older than you, neat.
>>32585294>men usually call me a bitch or a whore or whatever:-o You might want to review your criteria for selecting the men you have sex with.
>>32585294>men usually call me a bitch or a whore or whateverOh, I thought women loved that...
>>32585294agressively violent chads get more sex from women and the sex also feels better
>>32585270i honestly wouldnt mind if he turned out gay if hes not interested in girls. earlier on someone said genetic weakness or something. i dont think that would be a possibility right? if hes short in childhood they can give him the drugs?
>>32585298I've never been taller than a woman's ideal before. Today is a great day!
>>32585303Contrary to what incels on the internet say, there is no correlation with height and inceldom.
>>32585297Yes like I saidincels suffering brings entertainment to chads and women society is set up to get incels to commit suicide for everyone's entertainment
>Want to eat a woman out >No women around who want me to eat them out What a waste!
>>32581700>>32585294
>>32585293Yes incels are inherently loserstheir personality is inherently that of a loser who could never achieve anything of valueso being smart the incel gets good grades but since he's a worthless valueless loser with nothing to offer to anyone he also doesn't get anything else like raises or confidence it's because incels don't deserve itthey're losers who deserve to be bullied to suicide by women
>>32585299>>32585300>>32585302maybe, i think i used to be into rougher sex and degrading stuff but now i like gentle sex where hes also focused on my pleasure. this guy was so kind to me while still being dominant and leading, i dont think anyone will ever top him, regardless of dick size, how rough they are, whatever
>>32585295ദ്ദി(TᴗT)>>32585298Hello and how are you on this fine day>>32585300Absolutely not, not me>>32585304I wouldn’t even mind someone a little shorter than me because it means I can hug him against my chestThe problem is that my parents would look down on him, and I would feel really sad if that were to happen. They made fun of my one real crush for being my height, despite him being a top student.
>>32585314>they're losers who deserve to be bullied to suicide by womenhot
>>32585314>they're losers who deserve to be bullied to suicide by womenso incels really just have a femdom fetish but dont want to admit it?
>>32585234>Do women like hearing men moan when having sex?I used to I'm not sure anymore since I've been single and have not engaged in coitus.
>>32585025Imagining sitting across on the train or in a cafe from a woman doing this and looking into her eyes knowingly made me start getting hard
>>32585316You're not dating him because violent agressive chads give you harder orgasms
>>32585319yeah, I guess a little
>>32585230Women who are teachers are usually good women, but the career itself is bad because of how they are taken advantage of and worked to the bone for no pay.
I hate women.
>>32585317>Hello and how are you on this fine dayHello! I'm doing great. I'm watching TV in my house that I own. You?
>>32585328I love women
>>32585124>How was your sex in your dreams last night, /atoga/?>In my dream last night I got masturbated and given a prostate massage by an elderly Filipina woman on the bus seat next to me.I forget my dreams. I guess I dreamt my life was better than this one and I didn't have to wage on the weekends, also I dreamt I had a bf. Twf no bf feels gloomy
>>32585270>formally partaking in sports does not protect from being withdrawn, and relatively unsocial even while sharing spaces with others.NTA. Yeah, absolutely. I did sports five days a week ages eight to thirteen, twice a week thereafter, and that was a significant contributor to me being as miserable as I was (and still am), and as unfit as I later became. Being forced to do sports doesn't make you *good* at sports. If you're too slow, and too clumsy, and too fragile, and too asthmatic, sports simply make everyone hate you even more, make you even more of a target for bullies, make you even more depressed and introverted, and instil in you a life-long visceral horror of physical exercise that you will never be able to shake off.
>>32585316Was he on the smaller side?
>>32585330I love insatiably horny women who have an oral fixation!
>>32585317Get a tall friend to meet your parents and pretend to be your scumbag bf. Then if they ever criticize a future bf's height then you can say "Oh really, you want me to get another guy like Steve???"
>>32585316If you found one guy like that, you can find another. They're not so rare.
>>32585310>SandburgHmm...
>>32585319>so incels really just have a femdom fetish but dont want to admit it?I have never had sex so I don't understand how femdom works but a fetish implies sexual interaction.Incels don't get sexual interaction because they're losers with no value to anyone. I thought it was quite clear that the purpose was not sexual but to ensure incels commit suicide. It's just entertainment for women and I don't think you'll experience any kind of sexual pleasure if you put a bullet through your head or take a bunch of pills and fall asleep to your death.I don't understand why you would want to frame it like this? Are you trying to hurt incels even more by saying that some chads even get femdom but incels such as me should commit suicide?
>>32585325he rejected me but was really nice about that too>>32585334no, he was maybe between 6-7 inches so decently sized. we did a lot of foreplay and he fingered me a lot which was nice
>tfw no raven haired gf
>>32585317Mabel in 10 years marries a 6'2 guy "because of peer pressure"
>>32585345Stop trying to betray the Aryan race, anon.
>>32585308Do women even like this?
>>32585318>hotI expect it to be entertaining for women when they hear of another worthless incel man killing himself. It must be incredibly funny.
>>32585344Was he a fuck buddy you caught feelings for?
>>32585344>he rejected me but was really nice about that tooyou can get another boyfriend just like that in a heartbeat like every women canalso a 7 inches chad yeah no wonder the sex was great with him
>>32585193I don't know how to help you, but I think it's normal and healthy to have feelings for more than one person. You sound like a wonderful wife with just the right amounts of jealousy and understanding.
>>32585349>Do women even like this?Being eaten out by a guy who knows what he's doing blows anything else out of the water - PIV sex is a pale shadow in comparison. But most men don't know what they're doing, and that's not so good.
>>32585348I'm not Indian?
I was thinking about trying a dating app for once but I think I will be a Rivals coomer instead
>>32585349not from incelsincels are worthless to women
>>32585357How do you learn?
>>32585349Idk how to teach a guy to eat me out
>>32585357tfw you are unable to use your mouth to speak words because woman>>32585361by picking up stds from other women because women can't use words
>>32585356yeah chad knows how to eat you out and incels don't even get the chance to come near you because they should all commit suicide >>32585361chad knows incels don't get to learnI'd suggest suicide if you don't know
>>32585193Men have a "love hymen" that is broken by their first love or even crush. Once she breaks his heart, he's never the same
>>32585361>How do you learn?Listen instead of talking.
>>32585323To be fair, I've schlicked to imagining someone else knew I had been doing it. But I get off to a lot of really dumb work fantasies. It's a lonely, boring job.
Moids, would you date a girl who>is more or less asexual and will almost never want sex with you >but will give you a free pass to fuck whoever you want as much as you want, even men if you happen to be so inclined, and will enjoy it if you tell her about these encounters or even better do it in front of her >will also try to be the ideal gf in every other way
>>32585193>why does she have such a profound effect on him.The pair bonding chemicals released during sex
>>32585368No one was asking you to try to say the most retarded thing imaginable, but you went for it anyway. Nice job!
>>32585368>Men have a "love hymen"u wot m8?
>>32585371Sorry, no. I'm monogamous, and horny.
>>32585369no girl ever explained how she wanted to be eaten out. And moans are quite literally inconsistent data with too much variability to attribute one specific action to a result.
>>32585371I think I could make that work, yeah, but it would definitely be an odd relationship.
>>32585370I still think back to an intense eyecontact-fuck I had with a woman a few months ago. I remember her outfit, her earrings, her lips, her eyes...
>>32585368Damn, this is kind of true in my experience :(
>>32585371no woman will ever want to date me.
>>32585265>Nobody notices in the moment. You can pretend to have this revelation retroactivelyIt's my fantasy. I can pretend whatever I want.
>>32585371I'd be happy to *know* a woman like this, but that's a friendship, it's not a relationship. If you want to be BFFs then sure, I might love that; but it wouldn't make you my girlfriend.
>>32585379Girls have a certain look in their eyes when they're getting fucked, and it makes me melt.
>>32585368That is only true if it turns into a oneitis.But if it's either him breaking up or moving away, or she finds another girl soon after, it's fine.
>>32585379I'm too afraid of getting in trouble to do that anymore. Those anti sexual harassment trainings put the fear of God in me that I might make a man uncomfortable enough to report me just for enjoying looking at him.
>>32585379chad fucks and incels like me don't get anything
>>32585371>>is more or less asexual and will almost never want sex with youAbsolutely not.
>>32585371noyou aren't being original this is a common way for "modern" women to act, go back to acting human instead
>>32585371>almost never want sex with you>almost neverIntriguing
>>32585390Lol,this actually is good b8
>>32585384If the fantasy is about me, I at least want to give a little input.
>>32585390women literally cannot ever be caught for sexual harassment that's fake women cannot get into trouble for harassmentonly incel losers can and they'll commit suicide anyways so it doesn't matter how they suffer and ultimately diewomen and chads cannot get into trouble over sexual harassment
>>32585375A boy's first crush is when girls are at their absolute highest value in his eyes, he's never had his heart broken and he's probably so young that he doesn't have to confront the realities of an adult relationship, the tedium and 'down-to-earth'ness of it. He gets butterflies about her and asks "what does this mean" over every little thing, every conversation. Even if you really like a girl, it isn't the same as your first real crush/love.
>>32585393Seriously? I've never met a woman that was a a cuck
>>32585399See >>32585374.
>>32585395It's not bait. I had to sit through FOUR different ones, and they explained that shit that I thought was fine was actually possibly offensive. Or rather the repeated nature of the shit I possibly did was the issue.
>>32585399incel losers should kill themselves right after having had their hearts broken
>>32585403Lol
>>32585371>is more or less asexual and will almost never want sex with youI have a low libido, so I would date this girl.>but will give you a free pass to fuck whoever you want as much as you want, even men if you happen to be so inclined, and will enjoy it if you tell her about these encounters or even better do it in front of her I'm monogamous, so this is gross.
>>32585403You are a woman you will never ever get in trouble for sexual harassmentonly incel losers get in troublechads and women get happiness and good times
>>32585390Imagine how I feel as a man. I try to stick to the eyes anyway, so much more intense than looking at her body anyway. When you find someone who is really curious about you, seeing their chest rise and fall out of the corner of your eye when they realize you are interested too and not going to break the eye contact is hot.
>>32585405You fucks are trying to get me in trouble at work again. This is the glasses thing all over again.
>>32585402NTAWere you not attached to the first girl you fucked?
>>32585377>no girl ever explained how she wanted to be eaten outDid you ask? (peers suspiciously)I'd be happy to offer advice, but the problem is, every woman needs something different from every other woman: I could tell you what I like, but it wouldn't help you pleasure someone else.
>>32585403Are you staring at men's crotches while unbuttoning your top or something kekHow do you even get in trouble for sexual harassment as a woman'?
>>32585410as long as you make incels commit suicide I'm happy about your work
>>32585386I misread this >>3258537 I'm dumb
>>32585408I used to eyefuck guys a lot more, but now it's self destructive. I stick to only doing it when I'm in my car and meet eyes with a guy at a red light or whatever now. That way it's forcibly momentary and unactionable.
>>32585415It was mandatory training, I wasn't in trouble. I have been talked to professionally for something related, though. Made inappropriate jokes to a doctor I liked in clinic, so he told my clinical supervisor.
>>32585408Imagine making eye contact with people you don't know in times like these lmaoAbsolute casuals all of you
>>32585420>Made inappropriate jokes to a doctor I liked in clinicHaha, x object looks like a dick!
>>32585329I’m reading posts on atoga listening to “Holding Out for a Hero” by Bonnie Tyler in the darkness of my bedroom when I should be asleep. Thank you for asking! It’s pretty chill. Pretty sure I won’t be able to do these things once uni starts>>32585337>tfw none of my friends are male>>32585347My guy that’s almost an entire foot taller than me lol. I don’t want to be that red-haired woman in the image looking up.Besides, how would I be able to initiate unsolicited kisses?
>>32585421I'd been reading a book about women so I was extra confident that I'll be able to tell if I was creeping her out. We were on a pretty crowded train so I think that probably made her feel safer too.
>>32585422No, I'm not that stupid. I just implied he knew how to use zip ties for something fun, among a few other comments.
>>32585415>How do you even get in trouble for sexual harassment as a woman'?There was a woman at my last company who had a formal complaint made against her about that. Supposedly she kept asking him to go on dates even after he'd repeatedly said no. And she was his manager, which didn't help. Knowing the girl in question, I think it was probably a misunderstanding; but she was very flirty in ways that I think she probably thought were just friendly banter, but which might not have come across that way to everyone.
>>32585369Would that be a turn off? Is there any general advice or tips you could give me? All I really know so far is to lick the clitoris
>>32585424Have you tried growing taller yourself? Then you'll have a wider range of men in your kisszone.
>>32585376>>32585378>>32585382>>32585385>>32585392>>32585393>>32585394>>32585406Thanks for your responses anons. So it seems the overwhelming response is no. Which makes me sad because I didn't ask to be like this, I just want to be loved and even more importantly to love someone. It's nice that a few of you said yes though. To the person who said he has a low libido but is monogamous, that would also be ideal, the cuck shit is not compulsory, I would just want my bf to not be missing out on anything.
>>32585411I was, but the insistence that the first one is somehow ultra super special in a way no one else will ever be is an extremely smooth-brained take. I'm far more in love with my GF in every single way than I ever was with my ex, and the novelty of my ex being my first doesn't make me think of her more positively or of my GF more negatively.
>>32585428Lol. Not laughing at you btw that's just pretty funny
>>32585433>oh no I was born unable to have sex except for every now and then when I decide I'm in The Mood, I didn't choose this lifeenough bait
>>32585433I'm one of the anons who said yes, and you shouldn't be down on yourself. The thought of fucking a woman while my GF happily watches is hot as fuck.
>>32585371Uhm, it depends. Could we get physical? Not necessarily sex but like sensual touching? I'd never want to involve another person in the relationship. What's your idea of the ideal gf?
>>32585399>Even if you really like a girl, it isn't the same as your first real crush/loveAnd thank Christ it's not. Early crushes are your brain trying to figure out how being in love works; not something you'd ever want to go back to.
>>32585438Thanks anon. I wish I could find someone like you irl
>>32585435I get laughed at a lot ITT, I'm used to it.
>>32585413>Did you ask?I have never had sex or even a girl seem interested in me. So no I have never even had the opportunity to ask because from the very beginning I was judged worthless and not good enough.I'm sorry. Advice won't help me as I genuinely no longer believe I'll be able to have a relationship.
>>32585418I don't even look at women anymore. But I guess that's right for incels like me. I shouldn't look at women while women can look at any chad they want.
>>32585433>To the person who said he has a low libido but is monogamous, that would also be ideal, the cuck shit is not compulsory, I would just want my bf to not be missing out on anything.If I'm with you, then I'm with you for your heart and your mind and your soul, not for access to your hooha.
>>32585317Parents can be such assholes sometimes. I know you love your parents though.
>>32585442I wish you luck! I'd be super interested myself, but I recently started seeing someone and I think it would be rude to her to explore other options at this point.
>>32585371Does almost never wanting sex mean no blowjobs too? Because that would be such a hassle.
>>32585448So philosophical, people who degrade sex to something meaningless are after all known for following through on their sentimental posturing and actually sticking with their romantic interests
>>32585430She did not harass him. Women cannot harass men. If the men did not reciprocate he was an incel and deserved to be bullied or harassed. If he was a chad he would have fucked her.Men cannot be harassed.
>>32585433The cuckquean bit is the worst part for me
>>32585453Having a low libido is miserable, you don't need to be jealous.>I'm not jealous!You come off that way.
>>32585440If you want me to go into more detail, I'd be fine with touching him however he wants, giving handjobs/blowjobs and really anything that doesn't involve me receiving. In terms of my own physical limits I'm OK with cuddling, kissing and being touched everywhere except for genitals. >ideal gfWould obviously depend on what he wanted. But showing him love and affection, listening to and supporting him, doing various hobbies with him, making him food, taking care of him, I also really, really like being the one to take him out on dates, buy him gifts, etc.
>>32585428>I just implied he knew how to use zip ties for something funOh geez, why would you say that?
>>32585460But you masturbate and would probably masturbate while he fucks another girl?
>>32585448That would be really nice if it's true, unfortunately I've been burned before by similar sentiments not being genuine. If that's not the case with you though, that's very sweet.>>32585451All good anon, all the best with your relationship >>32585452Nah I should have specified I'm fine with giving, I just don't like receiving.
>>32585460It's not your fault. You're a woman. It's the fault of incels.
>>32585464I do but I might not feel comfortable doing so in front of him. It's hard to know in advance.
>>32585371One day she will find out that she's not asexual, go on a date with that interesting hot guy, and then start cheating. So, no?
>>32585460>being touched everywhere except for genitals.Are you uncomfortable being touched there at all or just being touched there sexually? I ask because your crotch and your chest are just a comfortable place to rest my hands for sensual caressing without it needing to be sexual.
>>32585463I was horny and he was my type and the only guy around to talk to in clinic. Fucking sue me.
>>32585460>I'd be fine with touching him however he wants, giving handjobs/blowjobs and really anything that doesn't involve me receiving.NTA, but you should have said that sooner. There's a world of difference between "no sex at all" and "endless blow jobs on tap". Honestly, the latter would be living the dream (assuming you actually enjoyed doing it).
>>32585468I don't think I could be with someone like that, sorry. I'm a fan of spontaneous sex, groping, touching her. There's also something very unsexy about having to tell her to touch me rather than her just having that urge naturally.
>>32585470I'm not entirely sure how you mean. If you were resting your head on my lap or chest for instance that could be ok I guess.
>>32585371Honestly, probably not. I'd want some amount of sex and if my girlfriend won't have sex with me, who will?The setup of this question implies that I'm smooth and popular enough with women, which I'm not so you wouldn't want to date me anyway even if I accepted you terms. So it's a moot point.
>>32585460See >>32585472. You sound like an amazing GF. I'm not great at bringing women home, but if I had endless blowjobs to fall back on, I'd never be sad.
>>32585472Ok fair. I'm used to guys just wanting pussy and acting like those things aren't enough for them though
>>32585475Like when we're just cuddling in bed, having conversations or watching a movie, if I'm spooning you from behind then I'm going to rest my hands on your body. Are those areas off-limits for resting hands?
>>32585471I bet he could've taken you right there
>>32585396Fair enough. I like that.
>>32585480I actually kind of like the idea of taking my bf out and acting like his wingwoman, helping him get girls to fuck if he's too shy to do it himself. Don't know if I would be good at it kek>>32585483That makes me happy to hear, thanks anon.
>>32585490Do you have a "type" of woman you think would be hottest to see him fucking?
>>32585487No. I would've gone to his car and sucked his dick if he agreed to date, though.>>32585488Good, I'm glad we figured out a compromise.
>>32585460>In terms of my own physical limits I'm OK with cuddling, kissing and being touched everywhereThis is the stuff I was talking about, I would be fine with not being touched down there or doing penetration or anything, but I like stuff like being bitten and licked and generally touchingWould that be alright?>But showing him love and affection, listening to and supporting him, doing various hobbies with him, making him food, taking care of him, I also really, really like being the one to take him out on dates, buy him gifts, etc.As long as you have your own personality and life, from the way you phrased it I was worried you'd just be like doing whatever I want or something, just be yourself
>>32585493I'd be tempted ngl
>>32585351yeah, i dont think im really cut out for hookups anymore>>32585355its not that easy to meet a caring guy who actually puts your pleasure and welbeing as such a high priority. and big dicks arent everything, otherwise id have larger sex toys
>>32585433>I didn't ask to be like thisI didn't read all the replies, but at least I didn't tell you you need to fit my wishlist.We all got our issues, big and small, that narrow down who we realistically can date.Feeling like a victim because of it, is unattractive to everybody though.
>>32585446>Advice won't help me as I genuinely no longer believe I'll be able to have a relationship.Well, not with that attitude.>>32585431>Is there any general advice or tips you could give me?It's hard, because every woman's body is different. For some girls, the clit is so sensitive that literally anything touching it is painful; if she's one of those you can only stroke it gently through the hood. At the other end of the scale there are women who may not even like being licked very much because your tongue can't press hard enough. The only way you know what you're dealing with is to ask!In terms of my own preferences, I find most guys go *way* too fast until I tell them to slow down. I like long, slow, gentle, sliding caresses; frantically flicking to and fro is just annoying. Don't ever use the tip of your tongue, because it's too sharp - use the flat part in the middle. On me, you want to be going mostly side to side, but with some upward movement too so the hood slides out the way. Once you get me going, a finger on my G spot at the same time feels incredible, but I have to be properly turned on to enjoy that.
>>32585496>its not that easy to meet a caring guy who actually puts your pleasure and welbeing as such a high priority. and big dicks arent everything, otherwise id have larger sex toysYou can always meet a beta later anonnette. Just have fun by fucking as many big dicks as you can. They'll satisfy you more than any caring loser could. It's funny that you just grew out of hook upsI've never had a hook up and I will never get one so all those social experiences you have been through whether bad or good, I'm missing out on them. I couldn't even experience them even if I tried because no girl would ever be romantically interested in me.
Women, how would (You) react in this situation?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-mLjQ-N8w-k&t=142sWould you judge the guy?
>>32585504>Feeling like a victim because of it, is unattractive to everybody though.she's a womanshe's worth more than any incelshe can do what she wants and still get a beta bux loser
How can I effectively filter women who just repeat things without thinking about them? In person or on apps. I'm trying to come up with universal tells that don't require me asking questions that are disguised brain teasers or moral quandaries
>>32585486Maybe if you just kept your hands still it could be ok >>32585492I often imagine it being slutty alt girls, like the "Scott Pilgrim Ruined an Entire Generation of Women" type. Or Staceys who are hotter, more successful, more popular and in general better than me in every way. >>32585494>being bitten and licked You mean me doing that to you? Sounds good to me, yeah. And no I do think I have my own life and personality. I have a pretty wide range of interests I'd say, I'm an autist so I get obsessed with weird things easily, and I have a career I care a lot about. I have to drive somewhere so I might be away for a bit, if I don't come back before the thread dies then thank you for all your input, anons.
Men, what would you do in this situation?
>>32585514Ok, incel.
>>32585508>Advice won't help me as I genuinely no longer believe I'll be able to have a relationship.>Well, not with that attitude.I'm sorry. There's just no chance for that to happen as 29 years of this life has shown me. At this point I'd rather commit suicide than try and fail again.
>>32585516Is it physically uncomfortable for you to be touched there or mentally uncomfortable for you to be touched sexually?
>>32585517Keep walking? What else am I supposed to do?
>>32585519it's true thoughthanks for admitting you don't have a counterargument
>>32585517I went cage diving next to a great white shark in a feeding frenzy.This would be far more terrifying.
>>32585508>The only way you know what you're dealing with is to ask!I heard asking is bad though, are women generally okay with that?Also I had no idea that clits could be so sensitive...>In terms of my own preferencesHmmm, that's a lot of options, do you ever like if a guy mixes it up at all or do you generally prefer formulaic?>a finger on my G spotIs this the come hither thing I've seen others mention?
>>32585517feel scared and ashamed knowing that none of these girls would ever date a loser like me
>>32585526You forgot to bring up chad.
>>32585517I would pick one up, a slim one, sit where she was sitting, put her on my lap and just chill and chat.
>>32585529Why scared then? If there's no game to win then there's no game at all, and thus no game to lose either.
>>32585517I'd probably try and find an empty seat, then stare at my phone and try not to check them out.
>>32585443>I get laughed at a lot ITTNTA. You should take it as a compliment. At least I'd hope you'd take it as a compliment when you make me laugh.Btw, that ukulele thing from yesterday made me laugh. I'm not sure what you were saying even made any sense, but just the joyous tone still makes me smile.
>>32585510That blonde girl is so hot
>>32585535You could lay these nuts.
>>32585535Then good. I love making deez nuts jokes like that. The issue is that people don't fall for it if I spam them.Them actually making someone laugh is ALMOST as satisfying as productive hornyposting.
>>32585509being gentle and caring doesnt make him a beta, and he didnt even have the biggest dick out of my hookups or fwbs ive had, so again the size doesnt matter. have you actually tried to have hookups? its not that difficult
>>32585490>I actually kind of like the idea of taking my bf out and acting like his wingwoman, helping him get girls to fuck if he's too shy to do it himself. Don't know if I would be good at it kekThat's different then. Then I'd at least consider having a relationship with you. I'm sure you'd be lovely to have as a friend regardless though.
>>32585541Did you hear about the 69ing oral sex scene in that new Romaboo movie?
>>32585517I'm used to situations that are humiliating. Dissociation would probably be the way to go.
>>32585517>Whoops! I was looking for microeconomics class, sorry. Enjoy your Feminist Literature course!
>>32585517Smile awkwardly and wave back at them?
>>32577777
>>32585532they'll humiliate me for being worthless trashI'm nothing to them. Not with chads being available to them. Women don't see me as human as chad or other women. I'm something for them to hurt and then throw away. Sometimes I don't want to be an object of ridicule and entertainment for women, though I understand that I don't have any other value to offer anyone so I'd be scared that I'll just be ridiculed again. I shouldn't be because it's my entire life, you're right. Just another failure I perpetuate.
>>32585556Wait a minute, this feminist literature course doesn't have a fire exit. Enjoy your death trap, ladies!
>>32585560Wholesome
an>>32585544>have you actually tried to have hookups? its not that difficultTruly spoken like a completely clueless women, Jesus Christ.
>>32585552Never heard of that movie before.
>>32585544>being gentle and caring doesnt make him a beta, and he didnt even have the biggest dick out of my hookups or fwbs ive had, so again the size doesnt matter. have you actually tried to have hookups? its not that difficultNo girl has ever shown me any interest. I genuinely do not know how to do any of that.If he really cared he wouldn't have left you. He just used you for sex like a chad would. It's okay if you get your heart broken by a chad. It happens. You just need to find new and more agressive chads to make you orgasm even harder. Have you tried that so you can forget your previous ex chad?
>>32585516>You mean me doing that to you? Sounds good to me, yeahBased, that interests me way more than genital stuff>I have my own life and personalityOkay good, that's most of the appeal of having a gf is sharing both our lives, I wanna be involved in your hobbies as much as I want you involved in mine. I'd help you with your job any time I could too since I admittedly don't have the best jobI would be excited if I got to date someone like you, and I wish I could.>I have to drive somewhereOkay, please drive safe anon
>>32585568You know, that new movie from Ridley Scott. Paul Mescal's wife was glad he ate her too.
>>32585517Assume the whole thing is a prank, back out of the room, and try to get the panic attack to stop
>>32585576You've completely lost me. I thought that was the set up for a pun or something.
>>32585579...maybe you should read it out loud.
>>32585582OHHH. Fuck. I got it now. I feel dumb.
Should I dump my girlfriend, sell everything I own, and move to Malaysia?
Does edging do anything for women or is it just a guy thing?
>>32585589Probably not.
Women, can you stop lying about liking short men? You know it's not genuine and you're anonymous so you don't need to lie
>>32585590I don't consider it "edging", but idly masturbating for a long time does make it easier to get to a good orgasm later.
>>32585589You should dumb everything, sell Malaysia and move to your girlfriend.
>>32585592Can you stop being retarded?
>>32585517I'd be freaked out that they're all waving at me for no discernable reason, and assume it was some kind of cult thing.
>>32585589yeah. make sure you take malaysia airlines flight 370
>>32585595I am not retarded.You can't tell me my eyes and ears are lying to me
>>32585592why do you think its a lie?
>>32585517turn 360 degrees and walk away
>leave heater off in bedroom>wake up sweaty as fuck>turn on heater>wake up cool and dryexplain?
>>32585593So being horny for an extended period does improve the orgasm for women too then, right? How does that work with orgasming multiple times? I'd say for men that fapping for an extended period and orgasming once > fapping multiple times in one day
>>32585517They wouldn't be waving at me in the first place, so nothing. just go pick up my diploma/board my flight or whatever
>>32585599They're not lying to you, you're just retarded and can't visualize the data properly. Women aren't a monolith, they don't all have the same taste.
>>32585607Idk if it "improves" it as much as it makes it easier to get off. I have issues orgasming in general, so the slow burn of just touching myself all afternoon is sometimes the only way I can get there. But yeh, if I spend the whole day schlicking it's definitely easier to ride one orgasm into another.
>>32585600Because women are genetically programmed to find taller men more attractive. Short men are weaker and far less genetically appealing for children. You can't love short men when you biologically cannot stop yourselves from getting horny for tall men. You lie about it so there are men willing to betabux
>>32585613Right, right... it's just that over 90% of women have the exact same tastes
>>32585615you just need chad
>>32585616yes short men incels should all commit suicide
>>32585620>if I mock my enemy, people will buy into the delusion that life is fair and do what I wantI hate women
>>32585619Confirmed for having literally never having left the house.
>>32585628He's right, women are a hivemind about height and hair and muscles and how much the men should earn.
>meet girl organically>ask her out but she's not interested>sorta friends but she's flaky and ignored my last two invites>couple months later see her on hingeI honestly am cool with being friends with her and I genuinely want to be friends with her. I want to joke a little bit how I saw her there. How do I go about this without coming off as creepy? I was thinking either>Match her with the comment "Welcome to the hell hole of online dating and good luck"or>Text her directly saying I saw her on hinge and good luck
>>32585493>Good, I'm glad we figured out a compromise.Compromising with you is fun.>>32585515You're trying to filter people who don't think about things, without thinking about things. Sounds like you should start by filtering yourself.>>32585517Smile and wave.>>32585541I really came to appreciate the thought of your voice when I was laying in bed later.>>32585576>>32585582>>32585585I'm dumber. I still don't get it.
>>32585628I do leave my fucking house and see this shit all the timeWomen will stay with the scummiest assholes because they're tall and their pussy won't get wet for anyone else
>>32585563Kek
>>32585627no idea what you meant to say but I'm an incel and I suggested the woman to get fucked by chad chads are able to extract the orgasms from women
>>32585641Confirmation bias.
>>32585633Learn to take a hint
>>32585540Oh. NOW the penny dropped. Thanks!
>>32585639>I really came to appreciate the thought of your voice when I was laying in bed later>with your dick in your hand*
>>32585628lol 90% of women have the exact same taste
>>32585645basically>if I shame the men who are correct and speaking out, I can continue getting what I want>>32585647I've never EVER seen a short dude with a taller girl
>>32583656State genderThoughts on this?
>>32585592Anon, you need to consider that a 'preference' does not mean it's very decisive when it comes to partner choice.The fact that you'd rather marry a woman who's a billionaire than a woman who isn't (all else equal) does not mean that you're only looking for billionaires. Chances are your preference for billionaires is fairly weak. And it turns out: it's similar for women. While most women (and not even all women) would prefer a taller guy than a shorter guy, as it turns out, the supply of tall guys is limited. Some of the tall guys might be gay, others might be horrible people, unable to hold a job or maintain a relationship, etc., so not out of an already rare commodity, some are not even eligible, meaning that if you want to be partnered at all, you'll probably have to compromise on having a particularly tall partner. The women you see on twitter or tiktok with very strong preferences for tall partners are probably complaining there for a reason: they can't find a partner like that. On the other hand there are other women who are happily partnered with comparatively shorter guys.Preference for taller guys is undebatable, but for most a preference is more of a "nice to have" than a must.
>>32585658I'll leave that last part for you to imagine
>>32585616>genetically programmedlolno. sexual preference is almost entirely learned.
>>32585665MLarp idc
>>32585665M, Pretty funny
>>32585665MaleCute ans funny
New thread>>32585675
>>32585673NTA but many sexual preferences are heritable. What is culturally influenced are for example status cues. e.g. women (but also men!) prefer high status individuals over low status individuals. But what status looks like differs between cultures.
>If I'm not getting the tall guy I deserve, I'm staying single and just fuck a few of men like that from TinderThere you go, she solved the preference conundrum with the tools she has available, the woman's tools.
>>32585632>>32585659The infamous dating app study that deemed 80% of men below average also stated that women cannot agree on who the top 20% are, the "Chad" scores were all over the place. Men a more balanced scale, men all agreed who were attractive and who were ugly, and men consistently pursued the same top 30% of women in the age category 5-10 years below their own.
>>32585682Tinder is majority male. Most women hate dating apps in general. The women who do end up on dating apps are mostly looking for long term relationships. In a recent survey only 5% of people had sex with someone they met on a dating app.
>>32585680>sexual preferences are heritablethats just a more subtle Oedipus complex>my dad liked pale women with dark hair? oh so do i! this must be entirely genetic and not because i think my moms hot or anything
>>32585686Also, women ended up messaging the non-chads all the same.Not to mention that you are completely right that when it comes to facial attractiveness - while there are general patterns people can agree on look better than others - there are also some other weird patterns, e.g. even faces who tend to be rated lowly on average tend to be rated highly by a select few.
>>32585667Oh how encouraging... I just need to make over $600K to make myself as preferable as a 6'2 guy
>>32585662>if I shame the men who are correct and speaking out, I can continue getting what I wantwomen can do what they want they and chads form societyincels should commit suicide
>>32585686When there's a filter that women automatically set for 6' and above and when men with bad hairlines consistently get less matches across the board, there are no doubts that women in fact know who the top 20% are and actively exclude the rest. As that poster said above, women's preference for the ideal man might not govern their ultimate choice entirely. But when women are presented with hundreds of immediate matches a tap away, they will not pick the lesser guys under any circumstances.
>>32585686No it wasn't. That's bullshit You're fake pretending like anyone could be a top 20%erthis is a lie. There's a very specific top 10% of men that consists of twinks and musclebods and they get all the pussy. It's only the top 10% of twinks, the top 10% of bodybuilders, the top 10% of martial arts fighters only those top 10% will get anything on a dating appWomen being more diverse with their love interests makes it even harder to find a girl
>>32585703You need to keep in mind that those preferences don't always translate into pair bonding. I can only repeat: the supply of tall guys is limited. Most women are interested in long-term relationships. While women might go on a date with a tall guy first before you - all else equal - that does not necessarily mean that he turns out to be the right guy for them. Or that he himself is interested in dating them (people often miss that when it comes to long-term relationships, men are almost as choosy as women).It's easy to get yourself demoralised when looking at preferences, but what you actually need to look at is how much of the difference between a partnered or unpartnered man is predicted by height. And it turns out: not much at all. I don't even think the relationship is significant even.And if we're going more extreme, e.g. with regard to inceldom, there is substantial data that height is a completely unrelated quantity.
>>32585694>Also, women ended up messaging the non-chads all the same.lie
>>32585719Most people don't use dating apps for finding partners. The fact that you have to use dating apps is the actual reason why you're an incel.
>>32583659Because rape is illegal
>>32585720the supply being limited doesn't fucking matter because women are willing to be in a chad's harem
>>32585720>Most women are interested in long-term relationshipsMost women want to get the hardest orgasm possible from chads.>While women might go on a date with a tall guy first before youSo you're advocating the betabux strategyJust be some crack whores ATM and maybe she'll give you an crumb of pussy sometimes after you brought her kids from three different baby daddies to school, although she isn't ready for kids with you.You're literally advocating cuckoldry and being betabux
>>32585724>>32585688More than 5% of women use dating apps, so if they aren't using them for finding partners, what do they use them for?They hook up with top men there and then how those men looked influences their preference for long term partners.
>>32585724ThreadIs this true? I thought dating apps had become the primary means of finding a partner in recent years.
>>32585720>Or that he himself is interested in dating themwoah so great so you can pick up the trash that chad didn't even want and can date herwoah what greatI might buy myself a trash bag and date that, basically the same thing
>>32585722>>32585728Why regurgitate lies that have long been discredited by actual data.>>32585734It's true.
is chadcel a thing, or is that just volcel
>>32585732See >>32585737.
>>32585724>Most people don't use dating apps for finding partners.How should I know? I have never had a partner or have anyone been interested in me?>The fact that you have to use dating apps is the actual reason why you're an incel.Yep insult the incels. Like I've argued previously, incels only exist in society to be tortured and bullied by women and chads as a form of entertainment until those incels from desperation kill themselves.This is just that same principle in action. This anon enjoys insulting incels because he enjoys their suffering.Like I've said before, I've never been on a date or had sex or even experienced any kind of interest from women. No woman has ever shown romantic interest in me. So no I don't use a dating app because I would just be humiliated and hurt there. In fact an incel such as me couldn't even use that app. Dating apps are only for chads who can actually get women.I hope you enjoyed my emotional suffering. At least I've done something right in my life.
>>32585737that doesn't disprove methe more you talk the more blatantly obvious it is that you're wrongstop advocating for cuckoldry and being betabux
>>32585737>Why regurgitate lies that have long been discredited by actual data.only 5 % of men had sexso only chads had sex and women did not in fact message lower tier men
I hate women.>>32585328Fuck you.
>>32585743It does, because you can see that heterosexual men and women have a comparatively low rates of having had sex with someone on the internet. If heterosexual women were all having sex with Chads they meet on the internet, you'd expect the graph to look different.>>325857465% of men AND women had sex with someone they first met on the internet the year they were surveyed.
>>32585737normal people have sex irl btwlocal meetups will not make it here, so stuff like /soc/ DMs etc are excluded from this>t. sex haver
>>32585741>How should I know? I have never had a partner or have anyone been interested in me?You could know by looking into data on where people met their partners.Most people meet their partners outside of dating apps.
>>32585750>5% of men AND women had sex with someone they first met on the internet the year they were surveyed.Yes. Women and chads had sex. Incels had no sex. What's the issue?>If heterosexual women were all having sex with Chads they meet on the internet, you'd expect the graph to look different.No, no you don't. Many women know chads in their own circle and maintain extensive fwb networks.Women did NOT MESSAGE INCELS OR LOW TIER MENYou quite literally do not have the data for it and are just straight up lying>>32585694>Also, women ended up messaging the non-chads all the same.hereYou don't have the datafilthy fucking liarwhy would you pretend to give incels hope?is it another trick to make incels even more suicidal? pretty elaborate.
>>32585757>local meetups will not make it here, so stuff like /soc/ DMs etc are excluded from thisIf you first communicated with someone via /soc/ or DMs on social media it still counts as "met online".
>>32585739What are women doing on dating apps then? They aren't finding relationships and they complain a lot, but dating apps not only have chad, they have normal men as well who also complain that they get literally zero women interested in them. If women have such a wide array of preferences, how come that they aren't finding partners from an ocean of men, but still find hookups with top men?No ugly man has ever bragged about "scoring" much of anything from dating apps, but women have repeatedly talked about fun sex dates from there.Women's preferences for sex are clear. What they think about relationships is a different topic.
>>32585758>You could know by looking into data on where people met their partners.>>Most people meet their partners outside of dating apps.It's literally second place.You actually called people using those apps incels>>32585741>>32585724>The fact that you have to use dating apps is the actual reason why you're an incel.which does not make sense at allyou're presumably an actual retard commit suicide retard
>>32585768nah. if you have sex with someone in the same town it's not online. online is LDR. Shit like eharmony, tinder, etc.
>>32585775discord is also online.
>>32585765>why would you pretend to give incels hope?I don't want to give you hope, I want you to understand what your issue is.Here is some genetic data from a huge dataset from the UK and Australia which contained some genuine incels and femcels (average age 30+). And they looked into what they had in common with regard to phenotypic and genotypic data.Height for example is not significantly correlated with inceldom in men (or women). Neither is obesity (although very low BMI). However, traits like autism, lack of extraversion, risk avoidance, high IQ, etc. - typically nerdy traits.I am absolutely convinced that most incels are mentalcels.
>>32585528>I heard asking is bad though, are women generally okay with that?You heard wrong. Communication is absolutely CRITICAL for good sex.>do you ever like if a guy mixes it up at all or do you generally prefer formulaic?You don't necessarily want a steady, repetitive pattern. The schoolboy thing of tracing the letters of the alphabet can actually work quite well - it makes you do a sequence of varied things rather than the same thing over and over. >Is this the come hither thing I've seen others mention?Yeah.
>>32585769>What are women doing on dating apps then?Most women aren't on dating apps. If you survey women, they hate dating apps more than men.Dating apps are and have been dying for quite some time.
>>32585775People were asked whether they had sex with someone they first met online. There is NOTHING ambiguous about this. This does not just include dating apps.
>>32585773>which does not make sense at allIt does. Because if you look at >>32585758, you'll find that most people meet their partners outside of the internet. Especially younger people who still go to school. They don't need apps because they can meet people IRL.
>>32583656Reason why women don't date incels is because incels hate women. Why would you date someone that despises you? That's like a black person dating a white supremacist.
>>32585790How many women have NEVER been on a dating app? They join, talk to guys and delete because they have too many matches to handle and get flooded with notifications. Their usage of dating apps is episodic, at a high intensity.
>>32585806NTA but men can get same experience downloading grindr
>>32585794I'm not intentionally trying to be difficult I just think if meetup with someone online that's different from meeting for the first time irl. online seems like LDR or online dating, IRL seems like first date was in person.
>>32585773>It's literally second place.You need to consider it in a cumulative manner. It's in second place but it's barely more than 15%.Also, it's only the question of where people met their last date. If you look at >>32585737, it speaks a pretty strong language. Even if people are dating through apps (and it's still just a relatively smaller number of people) apparently their dates aren't working out for them.And it 'could' be because dating apps invite swiping on the Chaddest of Chads. But whatever the reason is: these dates are not translating into women getting pumped and dumped by Chads but they are resulting in either party deciding that they're better off without each other.
>>32585804>it's tooootally your fault and not the fact women have gone insane with power
>>32585809But on Grindr from what I've been told, if you are an ugly (by women's standards) guy then you can still get a cock to play with and maybe even a guy to listen to you and hold you. Guys get treated very differently there, even by the high libido manwhores.
>>32585783None of what you said matters.Answer the following fucking question:Did women message less desirable men?No. They chose not to. Your data proves thishere>>32585737Women do NOT approach those deemed non-chads.Your entire post is irrelevant btw. You can pretend I'm not ugly and worthless to women despite having experienced that for 29 years now. You can act as if it's in my head. But even if it's in my head, I have no idea how to look at it differently. In fact I'm fairly sure that I wouldn't. I won't make any girl happy ever. My entire life I've been unable to make anyone happy.Obviously it's in my head and that's a 100 times worse to fix. Because I'm broken.My personality is simply broken. Simply something so utterly worthless that no one has ever bothered to help me that no one has ever bothered to fix me. Society already judged I'm not worth it to be fixed.
>>32585775>nah. if you have sex with someone in the same town it's not onlineIf you first met or initiated contact online, then it's online regardless of distance.
>>32585814I think the important takeaway is that dating apps are less important than people on the internet think they are. Regardless of whether you think people meeting on discord is not included in those 5%, it still means that way fewer are having sex with people they met on tinder than people think.Virginity is on the rise, people are getting more and more lonely. This is a fact that is backed by data. But it's something that afflicts both men and women. It's not an issue of a handful of Chads having all the sex.
>>32585799>Because if you look at >>32585758, you'll find that most people meet their partners outside of the internet.Second place retard. This is like saying most people dont meet their partners through friends. You'd be correct while ignoring the fact that the largest category is still that of friends.Same here. No most people don't, but an extremely significantly group of at least 10%So 1 in 10.people meet online1/10 Are on apps and those apps are filled with women and chads and incels yet you somehow claim all those users are incels?How and why?And if you claim just me, then how did you know I used an app? Because I don't. I don't talk or flirt with women.
>>32583656Damn, if you're an young man, you're cooked. Fake youtube gurus and OF thots are competing for your money, Everything is pushing you to be addicted to harmful behavior/substances, even the spaces that are supposed to help men are actually harming them instead. Boys are either extremely feminized or being taught that material thoughts and having a high body count (AKA sleeping with hoes) is all that matters, meanwhile development or any actual life skills/talents/abilities/virtues is neglected. Young men are in dire need of example of healthy masculinity but right now it seems they have anything except that.
>>32585819What's more likely, that you personally have a problem or that every single member of the opposite sex is bad?
>>32585825NTAThere's a difference. A guy who remains a virgin after the median age for losing his virginity has high chances of maintaining that status until he's in his 30s and further. A woman will get dozens of offers to lose her virginity in college. She likely cannot remain a virgin past 22-23 unless she really really tries.
i just think the gamut of celibate/dateless men is a lot larger than peoplle realizeBecause we are on 4imageboard we're overly familiar with incels, sad incels, angry incels, mentally ill, autistic, etc.we just group volcels into a single label despite volcels being the vast majority of celibates.volcels include people who cannot afford to date, people who are disillusioned with modern women, mgtow/pua boomers, people afraid of marriage/kids, people who dislike women for various reasons, people who want to slut around, etc.
>>32584928I think they'll be available for 3 weeks for purchase after Feb 5th in limited supply.>>32584936I'm weird but not that weird, lmfao. Mostly I'm going to take it around with me and take pictures of her wearing or doing stuff, maybe make a funky or fumo meme or two out of it, who knows.>>32584946Good idea I should buy two :^)
>>32585821>Did women message less desirable men?I had to search for the article where I read it: https://nuancepill.substack.com/p/are-dating-apps-facilitating-chadopolies.But again: dating apps are clearly overrated.
>>32585820That's because gay men are whores with no standards (shallow or otherwise)
>>32585832None of your rhetoric works, retard
>>32585835i think modern men are traumatized by society and women and so there's no more dating.
>>32585825Unpopular opinion but you shouldn't have sex until your frontal lobe develops.
>>32585816>You need to consider it in a cumulative manner. It's in second place but it's barely more than 15%.>15% is extremely significantdo you just not understand statistics?1 in 10 is huge.1 in 20 having sex through tinder is huge>And it 'could' be because dating apps invite swiping on the Chaddest of Chads.Duh it's literally women getting pumped and dumped.1 out of every twenty women gets pumped and dumped regularly.And even more women know chads through friends whom they often fuck in fwb configurations so the actual number of available women is extremely low>these dates are not translating into women getting pumped and dumped by Chads but they are resulting in either party deciding that they're better off without each other.Literally not true.5% of all answerers had sex through a dating appthat's huge because you don't even know the percentage that didn't have sexso from the percentage of sex havers the percentage that got sex through tinder must be double so 1/10there are so many women getting fucked by chad on tinder
>>32585829Do you know what "cumulatively" means? It means if you add up all the various types of where people meet each other, online dating is only a comparatively small fraction.And if you consider >>32585737, you'll also see that it typically does not translate into sexual relationships for most people.
>>32585841So I'm right. You think all women are bad and you still can't figure out why you can't get any pussy?
>>32585830There is no actual substance in your lil post, trash and a waste of time.
>>32585830Yeah, let's get a masculine feminist role model to teach them that it's okay to remain lonely, single and virgin for a long while because of women's healthy preferences and that painting Warhammer figurines is a perfectly viable alternative. Then let's bring up some statistics made by the town priest in 1571 A.D. showcasing that N% of the men died virgins.
>>32585851>Yeah, let's get a masculine feminist role model to teach them that it's okay to remain lonely, single and virgin for a long while because of women's healthy preferences and that painting Warhammer figurines is a perfectly viable alternative. Then let's bring up some statistics made by the town priest in 1571 A.D. showcasing that N% of the men died virgins.When did I ever say that? Why are you fighting voices in your head?
>>32585837your pic already explains it. Attractive women get massively overmessaged. Women only message uggos if they're seriously ugly themselves.
>>32585821>>32585837I should add: David Buss also has a section on where he describes that both men and women try to date up (up to 25% in mate value), but that for most people it does not translate to substantial results, because contrary to what people think: men are choosy too and not all women are too eager to have uncommitted sex.There is an overwhelming data which shows that hypergamy has never been the norm but that homogamy has been the norm - at least in a British context: https://cepr.org/publications/dp17914. Massive data set from the 19th century to 2022.
>>32585851Someone is absolutely bitter that they aren't wanted, lmfao.
>>32585837>women message half of 1/10s and zero chads>men message zero 1/10s and 80-90% of stacieswat
>>32585859Its schzio babble from when they got btfo'd earlier and they are still sore about it a week later, ignore them.>>32585864Women only message men who are hotter than them, men message women who are hotter as well as average to them
>>32585788>Communication is absolutely CRITICAL for good sex.Oh, that's good because I'm autistic so instead of picking up social cues I ask questions and for preferencesIt would actually be crazy hot if a girl was giving me instructions while I went down on her, like I'm a voice activated toy lol>You don't necessarily want a steady, repetitive patternHmm okay, the alphabet thing sounds good. I could get real autistic and memorize passages or something to go down on her with. Reading a poem to a girl's vagina lolOh uhm, one more question if it's okay, is putting the tongue inside good at all?
>>32585863Feminists love coming up with the wildest arguments to support the idea that what happens to most men is perfectly normal.
>>32583656Incels are addicted to misery same way homeless people in California are addicted to heroin and fentanyl
>>32585846retard you don't know what statistics mean10% of ALL PEOPLE HAVING HAD SEX THROUGH A DATING APP IS SIGNIFICANT NO MATTER THE OTHER 90%kill yourself dumb retard>>32585737this does not prove anythingit only proves that of those asked 5% has had sex with someone they met from the internetwhich againis huge5% of Randoms has sex with randoms they meet onlinethat is huge
>>32585836>I think they'll be available for 3 weeks for purchase after Feb 5th in limited supply.Yessss that's amazing news thanks for letting me know. I subscribed to that artist thanks to you btw
>>32585868because feminist is a supremacist group, they aren't much different than the KKK and history will remember them as such.
>>32585804No women would ever like me and I genuinely believe they find it entertaining to see me struggle and suffer. This is my genuine idea of women and I don't hate them. It makes me sad and I don't understand. I want to love and be loved but I always end up hurt and humiliated. Suffering while others laugh.
>>32585864You need to consider that the attractiveness graph of women is distorted. I'm certain you've seen it before: women rate the majority of men "below average". But the men who get most of the messages are the guys who are "just above average" on this translated bell curve. So it's not like the guys they're messaging are all ugly. The guys who are getting most of the messages are above average by the normal distribution, it's just that it's not just the actual "Chads" who are getting most of the messages. Probably because women consider their own chances. Take a look at >>32585861. David Buss mentions that both men and women try to date out of their league but not indefinitely. They are both aware of what they might be able to get away with.
>>32585804men aren't dating women for the same reason, kek
>>32585859I have a better idea, why don't we get one of your loud exes to be that example of healthy masculinity and beat those femboys up?
>>32585861>There is an overwhelming data which shows that hypergamy has never been the norm but that homogamy has been the norm - at least in a British context>british contextdoubt
>>32585878I don't disagree, men don't date women that hate men either
>>32585877>o it's not like the guys they're messaging are all uglyyes they are they've literally been judged as uglythe graph isn't skewed
>>32585861>>32585881The reason why no one pays attention to anything that comes out of Britain anymore is that the majority of it, from news to science, is majority state propaganda. Its one of the big reasons why most successful scientists, engineers, and other fields leave Britain once they get the chance.
>>32585872>>32585845>1 in 10 is huge.And 9 in 10 is huger. A bigger number is larger than a smaller number.>1 in 20 having sex through tinder is hugeAnd again: 19 in 20 are not having sex through tinder.If your entire focus is on the 1 in 10 or the 1 in 20, you shouldn't be surprised why you're struggling with finding a partner. This isn't complex math. You're simply attributing too much meaning to dating apps. And I can tell you why: it's because you meet the criteria of >>32585783. You're an autistic introvert and that is why you don't have enough friends and don't partake in social activities like normal people through which they meet their partners. Dating apps are the only way for you to meet people. For normalfags that isn't the case.
>>32585879>I have a better idea, why don't we get one of your loud exes to be that example of healthy masculinity and beat those femboys up?What is this Wattpad fanfiction you're writing? I don't have an ex. And beating people up solves nothing.
modern women are worth less than their price in the sex market place>mean to men (normal men not chuds on /9rk/)>babies>divorce>rape allegations>stds>antisocial tendencies (yelling, gaslighting, BPD, etc.)>naggingmen have historically been low value, but now that women are equal to men for the first time ever, women are being lowered to the value of men.the irony is that feminists internalize misogyny and think being equal to men makes the value of women go up, in reality it goes wayyyy down since men have no value at all.if women weren't so sexy they would be in hard mode about now, I think in a few more years they will enter hard mode once men stop simping so often.
>>32585848So you just assume random shit and pretend incels are all evil
>>32585861Every single man has anecdotal evidence that women are choosier when it comes to one night stands. Women need to be overwhelmingly attracted to agree to a one night stand.
>>32585886>>32585881It's LITERALLY just data. They simply looked at whether people married someone from a similar social stratum. And it turns out: most of the time they did.This shouldn't be surprising to anyone.
>>32585889Propose a solution, then. I'm willing to bet a hefty sum that your magical fix will not involve women doing anything differently than what they're doing now.
>>32585894Iunno, my wife is of a high social standard than I am because she doesn't exist but I sadly do...
>>32585893>choosierTo clarify: comparing to marriage standards, not comparing to male standards for one night stands.
>>32585890forgot some>bullying>high maintenance, expensive tastes>judgemental, shallow,>karen energy (rude to disadvantaged people, entitled)
>>32585893It's not just a question of being very attracted, it's also a question of personality traits. There are men and women who are very promiscuous. "Chads", in the sense of men who are having lots of casual sex, exist. But they're mostly having sex with their female equivalents. Some people are short term mating oriented and high in sociosexual attitude. But these are heritable traits. That's what some people are like.But these people are not necessarily the most attractive, richest, etc.
>>32585901We live in a simp culture sadly, majority of men are simps and enable women to literally just walk all over men and other women do a fucking shit job at policing their own but then have an absolute insane meltdown when men use the government to thot patrol them. Its either they step up and enforce a standard upon other women or they get state regulated at this point.
>>32585885>yes they are >they've literally been judged as uglyI think women just are a bit weird when it comes to their judgement.In any case, they are still messaging those guys, so if they're actually ugly, they're apparently not ugly enough.
>>32585897??? I said what my solution was. Young men need better role models and influencers who try to get underaged boys hooked on harmful shit (gambling, gooning, etc.) need to be punished. I also called out OF "models" in my post so why would you assume I think that women are blameless in this? In fact, a lot of OF prostitutes try to get attention from underage boys and send them from a harmless website to their OF to get them hooked from an early age, which I find abhorrent.
>>32585911women think just for being born they are flawless, anyone who criticizes them (criticism is standard practice in male circles) causes women to tantrum en masse. misogyny! opression! victim blaming! what chuds do on /r9k/ women do irl when faced with pushback.
>>32585888>If your entire focus is on the 1 in 10 or the 1 in 20, you shouldn't be surprised why you're struggling with finding a partner.Which is bullshit because none of your genetic or behavioral markers correlate focus with sexlessness.I'm not stupid I see what you are. The type of blackpill scientist fraud pretending he can actually interpret numbers.>And I can tell you why: it's because you meet the criteria of >>32585783. You're an autistic introvert and that is why you don't have enough friends and don't partake in social activities like normal people through which they meet their partners.You can't actually tell me why. Your own argument is completely flawed. You pretend these correlations are causal. Subsequently you pick those correlations meant to be emotionally hurtful "autism" and "introversion" while these aren't the most correlated features which areSmoking initiation, childhood IQ, and age of father at death.But you can't emotionally upset someone by saying ha you're going to be sexless if your dad dies first.Because that shows just how unreasonable you actially are.At most you could say from the fact that I'm sexless that my dad might be dead (he isn't) and that I started smoking early (I didn't).The part about having enough friends is just a random observation you could literally make about almost every incel poster.You've outed yourself for being a manipulative loser trying to manipulate incels. I see how you misinterpret statistics for your own advantage and I recognise that a person like you is inherently toxic filth. You are unable to be an actual human being, manipulation and your disgusting behaviour to attempt to influence (badly and stupidly so) are your defining features and those show you're a sick person.
>>32585916>I thinkshut the fuck up you fake ass data scientistyou dont know shitthey do not message ugly guysthey don't only extremely ugly girls dothe graph is realitywomen see reality different from men
>>32585679No, you should post more links to your next thread, otherwise many people might miss it if the thread is too active.>>32585675>>32585675>>32585675
>>32585911WTF am I supposed to do when some deranged lunatic gives all his life savings to a twitch thot?
>>32585923You just want young men to become women or to have them commit suicide you don't care about young men you like other women want men to sufferrather you want ugly men to suffer while you enjoy the chads
I can actually feel my IQ dropping, lurking atoga right now. See you all in a bit.
>>32585923Those young boys go to OnlyFans after they're rejected and made fun of. They see their female childhood friends and classmates getting older boyfriends and doing wild things at parties and there's nowhere to channel that horny energy and frustration. You don't really understand how puberty works for guys, sorry to say.
>>32585873>ONE OF US, ONE OF US!Lol, that's great to hear though. Typh draws other characters as well if Mimi isn't your thing.
>>32585937nta but i provide my own data
>>32585945>>32585940You two are beyond help
>>32585946>if Mimi isn't your thingWho's thing would she not be, she is an adorable menace
>>32585932>Which is bullshit because none of your genetic or behavioral markers correlate focus with sexlessness.They correlate introvertedness and autism with sexlessness.The data shows that dating apps are insignificant in comparison with other means of meeting people. You yourself admitted that 85% of people are meeting by different means and 95% of people are having sex with people they met elsewhere than on the internet.The fact that your entire focus lies on dating app, that you are having a huge debate about them and they matter a lot to me makes me wonder why that is. And I think the reason is because you're socially isolated. That is why I believe people are making such a big deal about apps. This is not just an issue that afflicts incels, by the way. Incels are only the tip of the iceberg. People are having fewer friends in general and as a result they're dating less and having less sex. And the people who are already predisposed to being reclusive, the incels are suffering even worse.>emotionally hurtful "autism" and "introversion"I'm not using them in hurtful manner at all. What do you think would I describe myself as? What type of person is on this board having such debates if not an autistic introvert?>Smoking initiation, childhood IQ, and age of father at death.I find it ironic you are accusing me of misinterpreting the data when this is what you're doing. These are genotypic traits. This is very important to understand! They are traits correlated through a genome wide association study with gene variations. They don't necessarily occur in the phenotype. i.e. the people there don't necessarily 'have' autism or their father didn't necessarily die. They carry gene variations associated with it. For phenotypic autism, you can consult other studies (e.g. pic; I'd have to look up the source - but it should be easy enough to find something).
>>32585955What's wrong with what I said? Do you think young guys are living in a perfectly fine environment where their interactions with the opposite gender are healthy, and then those OF sluts and the manosphere gambling Tate supercar podcasters break in through the door and get them hooked on addictions?No. Girls become picky and evil retards from a young age and their empowered behavior does a number on the opposite gender.
>>32585937>they do not message ugly guys>only extremely ugly girls doYou're contradicting yourself. Ugly girls are girls too. But in any case the graph shows that more than just Chads are receiving messages. Average guys are too (if we're going by the underlying bell curve).
>>32585963>that you are having a huge debate about them and they matter a lot to me makes me wonder why that is*matter a lot to you
>>32585963fertility is not inceldomdifferent correlationthe focus lies on dating apps because that shows the 10/90 distributionYou're psychoanalysing me because you're desperate to show someway that your story is correct.genotype is irrelevant btw so if your study is genotype then it's completely untrustworthy
>>32585976ugly girls are considered undesirable even by chads and incels
>>32586048Yet ugly girls still aren't virgins... Curious... Though I would say that they do feel their ugliness more than men because women rely way more on looks than men do, but they also get more sympathy and kindness than ugly men do.
>>32586042>fertility is not inceldom>different correlationFertility is obviously related to inceldom.In any case, it isn't hard to find an association between autism and sexlessness. In this (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5789215) study they found that among men who were average in their late 30s, 44.6% of high-functioning autistic men were virgins, while none of the neurotypical men were.>You're psychoanalysing me because you're desperate to show someway that your story is correct.I'm not psychoanalysing you, I'm telling you that you match a pattern.>genotype is irrelevant btw so if your study is genotype then it's completely untrustworthyGenotype matters more than anything else, since it's a non-bidirectional relation. Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about - not even in the slightest. You've shown it again and again throughout this debate while accusing me of it.That being said, it's getting a bit stale at this point. For your own sake, I recommend you look into the data and integrate it into your world view. The reason you're an incel is probably due to mental traits. This doesn't mean you can do something about them, but at least you should be aware of what your actual issues are.Bye.
>>32585959TRUE, Mimichads rise up!
>>32586086>Genotype matters more than anything else, since it's a non-bidirectional relationHow is genes not bidirectional >The reason you're an incel is probably due to mental traits. and if we're going by genetics then this is also genetically determined
>>32586086>The reason you're an incel is probably due to mental traits.btw I already argued against thisif it's mental then it's even more impossible to fixdecades of mentally downtroddenyou can't change thatpeople like that are broken
