I posted about this girl already here:https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32451605/#32455707She jsent me pic related today. I can’t say I’m surprised bc her texts were getting shorter, less expressive, and she sometimes took 24 hours to respond to me. I just responded with an “ok” bc fuck her. There’s no point saying anything else. If she dumps me, it either means she met another guy or she just thinks she can do “better” than me. I have no more obligation to be kind or polite. Did she want me to be more communicative? What else did she even want me to reveal about myself? I guess she’s not impressed. I even paid a $200 meal for our third date. She even paid for another meal at one point as well. I guess I’m just too ugly or short for her, even though she called me handsome. I’m supposed to have another date with another girl very soon but I really don’t see the point anymore. If there’s no physical pleasure going on, or if I have to wait and work for it; then what’s the point. I honestly don’t give a fuck about the dates, the eating, the faggy pics that they take, the walks, etc. Should I just start going to actual prosties and destroy my pride and self esteem, or should I go for girls who are incredibly boring/ugly/desperate enough to fuck me willingly?
>thank you for everything>i wish you the very best>good luck in your future relationships I hate this kind of shit so much. Just tell me you hate me and you're not interested anymore and let's move on you vicious cunt, stop with all the fake shit.
>>32583751Sounds like she thought the holidays with you would be magical and they weren't. She's not the one for you. She probably has issues to work thru.
>>32583776They don't want you to get mad and start stalking.
>>32583810>she probably has issues No, she’s just behaving like a typical woman. She either met another guy, if not, she thinks she can do “better” than me.
>>32583751You said too much.
>>32584095Then why did she want me to call her during her family vacation?
>>32583751>If she dumps me, it either means she met another guy or she just thinks she can do “better” than me.Or, hear me out, she just didn't like you that much. You seem to be excluding that one glaringly obvious possibility. >Did she want me to be more communicative? What else did she even want me to reveal about myself? I guess she’s not impressed. I even paid a $200 meal for our third date. She even paid for another meal at one point as well. I guess I’m just too ugly or short for her, even though she called me handsome.You've got a lot of growing up to do, OP. I'll tell you a secret, one that it took me until my late 20's to learn - sometimes there is no secret formula. Sometimes, people aren't like vending machines and no matter how many quarters you put in they're not just going to give you the results you want. Sometimes people aren't going to want to date you, OP, and no amount of money, communication, looks, height or jokes is going to change that. My advice to you is to take a long hard look at your sense of self and what it is you're actually seeking from a relationship. If your view on relationships is that its not "worth it" unless the girl gives you what you want after investing enough time and energy then you might as well see a prostitute because your life is destined for failure. Get your shit together, OP. You're careening down the autistic path of loneliness quickly with your mindset.
>>32584213Ah, ur over 30. That explains it. You never had to deal with zoomer girls, who are the most liberated generation of women so far. >she just didn’t like you that much That doesn’t contradict what I said. She didn’t like me that much, therefore she thought she can do “better” or found another guy. Women are always looking for a man, and they won’t waste time with a man they deem substandard. Also, are you implying she was deliberately wasting my time?>what are you seeking from a relationship?Just want sex and blowjobs. Anything sexual. If I were a chad, a girl would be quicker to get physical with me. Therefore, if she’s hesitant or refuses to get physical with me, then it means she’s not that attracted to me and that I should bounce. I just don’t see the point in having a long term relationship or interacting with a woman without sexual intentions in 2025. Not only do I hate talking to women, but women have so many mating options that it’s unlikely they’ll stay loyal to you.
>>32583751I have followed your saga from the beginning. You are massively insecure. You have tons of internet brain mold living rent-free in your head. If you just want sex then yes, it would be easier to go to a prostitute; however you seem to actually want impossible levels of validation and I assume that with a hooker you would just constantly think "she's only doing it because I gave her money, she would fuck Chad for free" and not even enjoy it in the end.That said if she shares stuff of the like you posted in your last thread, you may console yourself with the realization she's fucked in the head too and there's nothing you could do to make it work long term.
>>32584589>I hate talking to womenThen why would you invest so much time and energy into talking to one? Just pay an escort.
>>32584598>That said if she shares stuff of the like you posted in your last threadOP here. What are you talking about, anon? She never “shared” her instagram likes.
>>32584608I was talking about the meme she liked that you posted with your last thread.
>>32584621Okay. She didn’t share it, I just discovered that she liked it by scrolling Instagram. I can’t really complain about that bc many girls are into shit like that. As for what you said earlier, you are correct. I don’t think I’d ultimately enjoy seeing a prostitute. Also, it’s pretty funny how you claimed I want impossible levels of validation. So wanting to have sex with a woman who is not a prostitute means I want “impossible levels of validation”? That’s like one of the most normal and primal things a man can want, and you’re writing that off as impossible? Hoeflation is a bitch.
I wasn't able to say it on your first thread because it archived before I could respond; you're a dumb crybaby fag, OP. I hope you realize that you're 100% just as or even worse than the women you complain about. I thank the stars, the moon and the sun that I'm not a little bitch like you.
>>32583751Honestly OP I read the previous thread and you have issues. Now I don't really have the full picture to blame either you or hair but drop all this cringy "waah if i was chad" shit. As if you wouldn't immediately fall over if an actually good looking girl was into you.Girls can smell insecurity and they fucking hate it. You could be a sex offender and they'd like it more as long as you're confident.
>>32583751You seem to think that just because you were interested in her, she was obligated to want you. Look. Two people meet. The chances of them falling in love are miniscule, but they date and/or chat just on the odd chance there might be some chemistry there. She gave it a chance and there was nothing. So she politely and thoughtfully lets you know and you both part to go off and try again.That's what dating is for
>>32584631The problem is not wanting to have sex, the problem is that you cannot let a relationship progress normally and sperg out over any ambiguity. Even if she had sex with you on a first date you would likely nitpick and feel she would be more into it/less demanding/willing to do more degrading sex acts if you were a chad; or you would conclude she fucks any guy who wants her and therefore it's worthless.
>>32584725Kek, I don’t care about “falling in love”
>>32586101>I don’t care about “falling in love”Nta but Fucking based. I have no idea what you fully mean by that anon but i wanna say based because you are at the halfway point of relationship enlightenment. Falling in love is a scam. Growing in love though, that’s where the real shit is.
>>32586125>growing in love I don’t believe in that either. I just want sex>relationship enlightenment Wtf r u talking about
>>32585353>and feel she would be more into it/less demanding/willing to do more degrading sex acts if you were a chadOkay? Don’t women act like that though?>>32584686>as if you wouldn’t immediately fall over if an actually good looking girl was into you Here’s the thing: I would act similarly even if an average-looking girl was into me. I’m PERFECTLY fine with average-looking whereas women are not fine with average looking men or will make the courting/sexual process difficult for them. >women would prefer a sex oftener if he were confident And this is why I hate women.
>>32586228>*sex offender
If you just want to be a whore and are only interested in sex then why are you baiting girls into thinking you want a relationship? Just be up front and look for hookups. She obviously saw through you.
>>32586260So I should just tell whatever a girl I’m seeing/talking to that I only want hookups?
>>32586319Yes. You're having this problem because you're trying to get into a relationship with you hate talking to women. How do you think that's even supposed to work?
>>32586328I’m not trying to get into a relationship. I’m just not opposed to pumping and dumping at this point.
>>32586344Then you're a scumbag and most women are going to pick up on that like this one did.
>>32586344I just want to maximize my chances of fucking. Since I’m not a chad, a girl will immediately drop me if I tell her I’m just here for hookups. Non-chads can’t afford to be honest. However, if I see that there’s no chance she’s down to fuck or if she makes it hard for me, I bounce (unless she dumps me first)
>>32586366You’re only calling me a scumbag bc she didn’t want to put out for me. Save me your moralizing.
How tall are you and how ugly are you
>>32586388If you're not attractive and don't have a good personality, what do you think you even offer a woman? Why would they like you? You're just showing up bringing absolutely nothing to the table.
>>32586404I’m 5’7 or 5’8 so I’m short. I don’t know how to quantify my overall attractiveness though. I hooked up with a hot girl once, and got a situationship from dating apps. I’ve been called cute and handsome before and have had women be somewhat into me. I’d say I’m a 5 or 6, but I’ve also gotten 7 or 8 from other ppl. I usually look terrible in pictures.
>>32586430And by “situationship” I mean short term/casual relationship
>>32586413I don’t care if they like me. I just want them to find me attractive enough to fuck. I guess I just wasn’t attractive enough for this girl. I didn’t meet her threshold.
>>32586125>relationship enlightenment Why are you as a grown man writing this shit like?
>>32584658Okay thanks anon
>>32586379No surprise she didnt see a future with you two togetherTell the next girl you just want to hookup and dont get into a relationship until you grow up
>>32589340Why isn’t that a surprise?
>>32583751I know it's no consolation, but if you've ever been dumped by someone with no explanation or even saying goodbye, you'll appreciate that she at least gave you the dignity of explaining herself.
>>32583751>$200 mealtop kekOver the weekend I creampied and fucked a hot 21 year old for $150 bucks in TijuanaI've also been talking to "regular" women though, one actually lives in TJ but going to see her at night feels more and more risky so fuck that moving forwardthe other is a white girl that lives an hour north of me, she talks to me about how she has depression and how her meds are out and shit, shes cute af but you already know dyed hair and shitEither way, I talked way more with both of those girls last year or the last two months I should sayI fucked the latina once and havent fucked the white girlIt's like the new year makes these bitches change their attitudes or something or they say "new year, new me, new adventures, new people" or some stupid shit like thatI'm just over it all, desu last year I banged 3 women that had partners/bf/husbandThis year I just feel like ignoring foids and being comfy in my room reading books and working on my fitness & looksmaxxing some more, the years, they just come and goEnjoy your happy moments fellas, you can give a woman the world and she'll just ask for the galaxy next
>>32584095This.You shouldn't have even wrote "ok".The second she sent that message, she's dead to you.
This is why we ghost it's like nicely rejecting you makes you guys angrier. She dated you and decided she didn't want a relationship with you. That's what dating is, trying somebody out. I went on a couple dates with a guy last spring and ultimately rejected him and he wouldn't stop texting me and eventually got abusive even when I tried being nice. He kept asking why over and over and no reason I gave him was good enough. Eventually I told him I got a boyfriend and he went oh I see you just want someone better blah blah blah. Give it a fucking rest and stop being so dramatic with this joker style venting. You got rejected but at least you were given a chance. You don't have to risk being raped or killed just rejected with dating. So honestly women are taking a bigger chance on you than you are on them. And if you can't afford 200 bucks maybe work on getting your bread up and stop dating. Boom roasted
>>32591168So you were two-timing some guy and they correctly called you out on it? Are you retarded? why post that when it has nothing to do with OP?god you are dumb.
>>32591192Wow you have bad reading comprehension I got a boyfriend literally months after I rejected that guy. He was THAT hung up on me
Do you think girls can't tell that you don't actually like them? And I mean not the girl in specific just girls in general. They know men hate and resent them as the default. They're looking for the unicorn that doesn't. Or at least can fucking hide it well enough.
>>32591147I just wrote "ok' bc some anon on this board once told me that "ok" is the only acceptable response you can give to a girl who is dumping you
>>32591168I could easily afford such a dinner. I’m more concerned about wasting my time on a bitch and not fucking than on wasting money
>>3258388010000000 fucking percent. But why does that bother you so much?
>>32584589>Ah, ur over 30. That explains it. You never had to deal with zoomer girls, who are the most liberated generation of women so far. The idea that developing relationships with women has completely 180'd to the point that dating is unrecognizable is a really really lame cope.>She didn’t like me that much, therefore she thought she can do “better” or found another guyThose two concepts aren't connected. She just didn't want to date you. The idea that her not liking you absolutely has something to do with you comparatively inadequate to some other man sounds like your inner monologue talking. >Just want sex and blowjobs. Anything sexual.Then I have no idea why you're so bent out of shape. You have absolutely no interest in taking a woman seriously or really getting to know her or developing any sort of meaningful relationship. How the fuck is it you're surprised when a woman who is clearly looking for a relationship isn't interested in you? You're literally complaining about getting the exact outcome you want. >I just don’t see the point in having a long term relationship or interacting with a woman without sexual intentions in 2025Ok. So don't do it then.
>>32583880Honestly you sound like a prick. There's no way you're not used to women reacting to you like this.
>>32592473>Those two concepts aren't connected. She just didn't want to date you. The idea that her not liking you absolutely has something to do with you comparatively inadequate to some other man sounds like your inner monologue talking.Of course, you leave out the most important part, which is that a woman is ALWAYS looking for a man and hoping they can snatch one. If they cut ties with one man, it's because they feel like they can snatch this potential "better" man. >How the fuck is it you're surprised when a woman who is clearly looking for a relationshipHere is some more context: Before she went on vacation, I asked her if she was looking for something serious with me or not, just so I can gauge her. She said that she wasn't sure and that she needed to see how her feelings progressed. So no, it wasn't certain that she wanted a relationship with me>>32592450It bothers me because wtf do these women want? Are their standards really that high? It also bothers me because, in my previous threads, anons kept bashing on me bc I claimed that she would have been more receptive to me if I were better-looking (a chad) regardless of my behavior. Who knows, I probably could have hooked up with her by now and let her out herself as a slut. Whereas with the real me, she wanted to be hesitant, and go slowly, only to cut me off in the end. That's why I don't care what women, or bluepilled men on the internet have to say about behaviour. Women do not ultimately care about "good behaviour." This is just something non-chads have to foolishly worry about. >>32592474I said she's acting like a woman because she is one. How does that make me a prick?
>>32583751She committed the normalfag cardinal sin of dumping someone over text, this means you can whine about it to mutuals and ruin her social life over it if you want to.
>>32594488Trust me, no one will give a shit. It’s common for zoomers to dump someone over text.
>>32584589>the most liberated generation of womenThe idea that you can't get laid because women enjoy freedom is an epic self-own.
>>32594893Millennials do it too.It's the cowards way of breaking up.
>>32595039>break up in personEffect: broke up>break up over phoneEffect: broke up>break up over textEffect: broke upThe closure meme is just that, a meme
>>32595033Okay so it’s my fault I was born short and average-looking?
>>32595066skill issue
>>32595066No.It's your fault that you only evaluate women based on attractiveness. It's your fault you only chase after women who only evaluate men based on attractiveness. It's your fault your personality turns off women after 2 sentences.
>>32590421We're the same, you and I.I'm not the kind of man women want a relationship with... I'm the kind of man women cheat on their bf/husband with. Then, they'll pathetically try to monkeybranch to me and I'm so disgusted with them that I reject them every time.It's this weird dichotomy of women throwing themselves at me, but they're such trash that I can't stomach being with any of them. I'd rather be alone honestly
>>32595131>you only evaluate women based on attractiveness Im not strict with it. As long as she’s mid. >you only chase women who only evaluate men based on attractiveness Anon, women in general do this. I can’t avoid it. Even if it’s not their only selection criteria, it’s their most important one.
>>32595066Yes, if your world view is incompatible with other's freedom, that's your fault.
>>32583751>woman writing out big paragraph thoughguk response to dump you>ok
>>32595769>my worldview Women just aren’t attracted to short men with average faces. Hell, a lot of them aren’t even attracted to short men with above-average faces. It’s just reality. >incompatible with other’s freedom I can tell you’re 30+
>>32596387>It’s just reality.This is of course not true.
>>32583751Who cares. Move on. She did you a favor by ending things and not wasting your time. Improve yourself and find someone better. Also next time, dont spend so much on a random whore... especially for a 3rd date... it makes it seem like you're trying to pay for sex. Thats onions behavior. Instead, get something cheap next time, if the whore isn't into it, she isn't into you.
>>32594488>>32594893>>32595039>>32595054The only right way to break up with someone is to block them on everything and ghost.
lol i called it https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/32451605/#q32453583OP you are a major retard
>>32584095This. OP could've said less with more.
>>32596733What should I have said instead?
>>32596874nothing was ever going to work for your sperg ass
>>32596874"you too". but "Ok" looks like "whatever fuck you".:P
>>32583776you don't have to hate someone to not be interested anymore.
>>32586228>Okay? Don’t women act like that though?f hereThe person who is talking to you is absolutely right.You require insane levels of constant validation from women. Otherwise you start going actually insane (to a scary extent) with paranoid thoughts about how they don't like you enough and how a 'Chad' would be treated better by them.It is a self-fulfilling prophecy that you are living under. You will never get what you want because you self-sabotage every time you are remotely close.I suggest that you date men or MTFs since you don't have irrational thoughts about ho males think.
>>32596534So women aren’t attracted to tall men?
>>32596534Lmfao. Maybe op is unhinged but you can’t say women dont hyper-fixate on height.
>>32583776Is this the avg male mindset or just the incel one
>>32583776Just because you don't want to fuck somebody you met, that means you hate them?
>>32583751>or she just thinks she can do “better” than meAnon, a wet paper bag would be moving on with someone better than you. If you were this girls father, you would have immediately told her to cut this insecure freak out of her life for her own safety. You kept replying to her like you thought you were constantly engaged in a battle, not a loving caring supportive possible life-long future partner. You're the type who bitches about wanting a wife and family, but loses his mind once he realizes that requires partnership and hard work, and not just being handed a free kid and a free house. You complain every single step of the way. You're insufferable. And women arent like men. Men can be with someone insufferable and think, "but their body is hot, so at least there's still sex". Women don't think that way. Sex for them is a large part mental attraction. You're fucking annoying, therefore, you wouldnt even be useful for sex. Nothing about you is sexy. You're a whiny bitch. She was constantly on the defense from your incessant offense-at what part of any of that would she fall in love with you? What part of anything that you said or did says "this man will take care of me for the rest of my life, as I take care of him too"? What union under God did you think you were setting up? Even prostitutes would be burdened by you, let alone little ladies with pure intentions like the one you just pushed away.
>>32604316>You kept replying to her like you thought you were constantly engaged in a battle>She was constantly on the defense from your incessant offensePlease be specific. How did I reply to her offensively and how was she on the defensive?
