just jack off to hentai instead

>>32585629
I fell in love with a woman that I only see once a week. How can I gradually progress our casual meetings to a friendship and eventually a relationship? My stats
>not particularly ugly, but not particularly good-looking either
>shy, lonely and insecure, often dwelling in self-hatred/pity
>a girl once asked to be my girlfriend, so maybe not completely lost

>>32585847
>I fell in love with a woman that I only see once a week.
You fell in love way too early

>>32585629
I hate American white women intensely. Everytime I go out in public on the weekend I see them interacting with niggers in a way they would never interact with white men.
>animated faces
>smiling a lot
>laughing and being receptive
It’s a fucking joke at this point. You can be a white guy making 300k and it doesn’t matter because media is propagandized to depict you as being a weak, impotent, boring faggot. Meanwhile niggers are fun, charismatic, stylish etc.

American can burn to the ground

>>32585847
You don’t convince women to like you, mentally-stable women have a couple of subconscious criteria which have to be met in order for her to be open to a relationship with you:

1.) Social proof: she needs to see that other people respect/value you. Bonus points if she is around when other women show interest, extra bonus points if you’re in an authority position over other men/other men respect you. Even if a woman thinks you are physically attractive, she won’t allow herself to be romantically interested in you unless you can get over this barrier. A non-social way to get over this barrier is to fein confidence, people assume if someone is confident then that means they have had positive interactions with people in the past and is a sign of social proof. This doesn’t count for arrogance, that is a sign of resentment or asocial behavior.

2.) Competence: you haven’t said how you met this woman, or where you see her. If you see her in a work/education setting, then it would be beneficial if she saw you doing well in that aspect of life. Interact well with other people in your class or your professor, be pleasant and kind to others while you are working, show how you can be a resource for others around you, not a slave. If this is in church or similar setting, show an interest in the people around you and in the community.

3.) Self reliance: don’t make it obvious that you are enthralled in this girl, but don’t ignore her. You have your own life, and appreciate her presence, and value her input, but she is not your main reason for being there.

If she finds you attractive, and you have proven yourself in those ways, then she will show you positive signs that she wants to spend more time with you. If you think she is giving you positive hints, then you need to bring up something related to your conversation where you guys could meet in another time/place, that is how a date happens.

Today I saw three beautiful women that I wanted to shoot my shot at but I backed down
I don't know why when I'm out by myself that I'm completely antisocial
I don't even participate in some friendly talk with random dudes at the gym

This is the number one deterrent from me getting a gf

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>>32585629
I just wanna tell you something that happened. i kept seeing people say things like "to find a girl you have to stop looking!" and "if you try and get girls it never happens".
i would ask my friends how they got thier gf's and it was very very often "just met at random and clicked".
tl;dr It happened to me exactly like that, the fucking moment i gave up.
now this is the difficult part. you have to give up honestly, not giving up ... with the intention of getting a gf. because that's not really giving up.
I met this girl on a 4chan adjacent telegram group, we spoke there for about a month, then spoke in messages for about another month and had a ridiculous amount in common, unfortunately due to the distance and logistics of LDR's and moving, it is not happening, but it's a proof of concept.
you have to both get out there and do things with no intention of finding a girl then you find one at random, who is perfect, because the things you do/places you go all act as filters.

>>32586814
This is such horseshit, stop poisoning the minds of young men. Your own advice has not even worked for you.

>>32586814
>met this girl on a 4chan adjacent telegram group, we spoke there for about a month, then spoke in messages for about another month and had a ridiculous amount in common, unfortunately due to the distance and logistics of LDR's and moving, it is not happening, but it's a proof of concept.

So basically you have found nobody anon. If I wanted LTR I would set my distance to infinity on dating apps and just start talking to third world girls who can actually hold a conversation, but instead I am limited to this bullshit.

>>32586859
And the thing is that there aren't any perks to a LDR, neither party would get into it. It's best to at least visit or move temporarily so you make sure you aren't getting scammed, but it's still not enough to trust someone who you have to pay $2k+ to see.

>>32586814
>to find a girl you have to stop looking
>if you try and get girls it never happens
Those are excuses for inaction

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I have a first date set up with a cute Asian girl this weekend. I have a couple questions:

1. She's a 40 minute drive away from me and she's driving herself down here to see me. That essentially means she's DTF right? We'll probably be out late and I can likely see her spending the night at my place unless she really insists on driving all the way back home after.

2. How do I make sure that this stays a casual thing? I already told her beforehand that due to the distance between us, I can't guarantee any commitment to a serious relationship. She acknowledged this and said she's open to just seeing where things go and is still up for going on a date. That being said, how do I hammer home the point that I'm not looking for a serious relationship and keep things casual?

I'm 6'3" and white btw if that matters.

>>32585629
okay i did step 1, i made some flirty contact and and a conversation or 2 with a couple girls at a massive company i work at. Now that ive gotten their instagrams, what do i say, or do i say nothing at all? Just make boring small chat and send memes? Or just ask when theyre free and plan a date?

>>32587233
An occasional small chat/meme shows you're still thinking about her, but it's also platonic and you can end up putting yourself in the friend zone if that's the only interaction the two of you have.

>>32586829
ngmi
she literally wanted marriage and kids but the logistics and challenges of moving country were too much.
>>32586859
>>32586925
ngmi
if things were just slightly different it would have worked out.
How are your plans working, guys?

>>32585929
Did you want advice or what

>>32585650
no thx

>>32587312
You literally don't even have a plan, just "wait and something will fall into my lap." This is a feminine mindset and doesn't work for men. I got lucky once too with the long distance 4chan gf thing, it sounds great until you actually execute on it. And ultimately if that relationship doesn't work out then you have built 0 skills for attracting women, you simply got lucky with talking to someone in an online chatroom. It's much better to meet someone irl based on an ability to attract women, because you can actually have more consistent repeatable success.

Continuing on from here >>32562034
So I caved and asked Girl A why Girl B did what she did, and she laughed and said I was weird, then later when she was talking to the manager about something she gave me the side eye while she had an open mouth grin on her face. Yeah I know it probably wasn't the best idea but I feel so much better now getting that off my chest even though I didn't really get an answer.

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This angers the incel

>>32588365
What if I'm friends with girls that I don't find attractive but they find me attractive

>>32588365
Men and women shouldn't be friends.

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I’m about to turn 32 and never had a gf or even date. What the fuck is wrong with me? I don’t think I’m a red flag or have a weird personality, but nobody ever remarks positively on my looks so I’m led to believe I’m probably ugly

>>32588476
You don't look bad. Maybe fill out a little by lifting, but you look fine. Are you on the apps? Do you go out often?

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>>32588525
Yeah I’ve been going to the gym a fair bit. I do go out with friends sometimes, but not often. I tried tinder, hinge and bumble but had no success

>>32588530
What was your profile like? I know the hinge subreddit does profile reviews and I got a lot of good tips from that. I know, >reddit, but still.
As for when you go out with friends, do you talk to people outside the friends you went with? Do you dress well?

>>32588371
same

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>another year of no gf

>>32588530

Side what room are we in right now? Or is your whole house one room?

Kitchen faucet, bathroom toothbrushes, mirror over sink, microwave in the back. Dude. You're not supposed to make the bathroom your kitchen man!

On a serious note, hit the gym if you're not, find a legit (male) barber and tell him to work his artistic magic, get some better shirts (for going out, what you have on is great for the house) and don't force yourself to take pictures you clearly don't want to. I hate taking pictures of myself so I always look like I hate being there, because I do. Your look says, "I'm only doing this because I have to", which is a major turn off to women. Because they (want) to live in a lala world where people only have to do what they want to do. So look like you " want" to be in a picture.

Or, ditch online dating. I recommend it. Why? Because you're the fish, women are the lure. Stop acting like you're bait, you aren't. You select, you're not selected.

>>32588530
no one except chads get matches in online dating

>>32588672
Studio apt lol dinette kitchen
>>32588542
Ooo I should redownload and post it later. I deleted all that shit as it was just a waste of time. But really my profile just touched on interests and said I like going to shows in the city and shit like that

>>32588685
Chad just means not ugly guy atp desu

None of these guys I see being called Chad look insanely remarkable. But what do I know, I used to think I was handsome looking lol

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There's a girl at work who always walks really close to me whenever I'm working, not sure if she does it to everyone since I haven't really noticed this up until now, once she grazed my back and I said "woah" and looked back and I saw it was her, and didn't say sorry until we made eye contact, another time she was standing near my station and when I moved back I bumped straight into her and she apologized, point is, she's always really close by. Thing is, she also always lowers her head whenever she passes me, or sometimes she'll move her head and look the side as she walks past me even when I'm not even looking at her or acknowledging her at all.

Just talk to them. You learn to manipulate them the more girls you talk to. Some women are intimidated by charm.

>>32588816
Above all, heed every opportunity and abuse their trust.

>>32588786
She has strong feelings about you, but it’s unclear if it’s in the positive or negative direction. Maybe she knows you like her and wants to not give you too much attention. Maybe she’s shy and doesn’t want to show that she likes you. My suggestion is try to have a conversation that lasts at least a few minutes and see if she responds positively.

Honestly I’m leaning on the side that she doesn’t like you because I’ve had experiences in the past where girls I had big crushes on were giving me “signals”, but really they didn’t like me at all and I just wished that they liked me. If a girl likes you, it will usually be clear, unfortunately. But it’s not impossible that she does like you back.

>>32588816
>Just talk to them.
Can't, too scared

>>32588816
I rarely roll without a perception check. Avoiding them or harassing them lovingly in their peripheral seems to be more effective, just talking to them activates my autism which mutated from being beaten and drugged and molested by women when I was a very small boy

>>32585629

These creepshot picrels are weird and uncomfortable. It feels like after these photos the women might have lost interest. How do you think these dates went after the photos and what steps do you think were taken leading up to them?

>>32588883
if you can read her you know she is truly a conflicted animal. She both lavishes attention but hates being isolated for it

>>32588838
I don't like her actually, I have zero feelings for her, just asking out of general curiosity, personally I find her mid and awkward as hell, she talks to me like I'm 2 years old and her humor sounds like hearing a teacher trying to joke around with her students, generally feel pretty uncomfortable around her because of how awkward she is.
>I’ve had experiences in the past where girls I had big crushes on were giving me “signals”, but really they didn’t like me at all
How did you come to the conclusion that they didn't like you? Did you ask them out and get rejected or what?

>>32588938
Until you make an advance you can never really know. My most recent rejection was from a really compatible girl. She mirrored my language so much and gave me these long deep stares when we talked. Fortunately I did not advance like a retard so we are still mixing

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There's something to be said for staying in your own lane in casual dating.
I used to complain being an in-shape, put-together, (semi-)wealthy STEMcel with in his early thirties wasn't attracting bitches but I was trying to pull college chicks from bars. That life is over for me, even though I used to be able to do the same thing as a brokie college student from time to time.
But, I threw away fifty bucks on HingeX and put up a dorky profile including me in my business' branded gear and one with my mom's cat, and the desperate bishes my age started flooding in. I've got three dates lined up this week alone with actually decent looking women, they're just you know, my age. Maybe a bit ran through, not wife material, but women I wouldn't be ashamed to be seen with, and they're just going to be flesh toys for me to use to get over my long term ex anyway. They thing they found their life boat, instead they're just in for one last pump and dump to fulfill some deeply insecure guy's fantasy of being a Chad.

Is there a good dating app (or place I guess) to meet childfree women? I don't want kids.

>>32588938
>How did you come to the conclusion that they didn't like you?
Tried talking to them and they got annoyed, sent them a message and got blocked
Stuff like that

>>32588980
that sucks anon, I feel for you.
>>32588965
>most recent advance
>i did not advance
well which is it?

In any case, I feel like this girl might think I have a crush on her because of how awkward I get around her, but it's mostly because of how she acts.

>>32588969
That's sinful to point of being impenitent
Imagine how this will make your wife feel

>>32588991
I did not advance (like a retard) I advanced like a cool calm operator
retard

have found a date.
She sent nudes after a week of texting, I basically stopped texting a few minutes after.
It's best to wait until our date approaches or she reaches out, yes?

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>meet a girl at work
>ask her if she likes this certain guy at work who she doesn't talk too
>says "are you crazy? no"
>sigh of relief thinking I have a chance
>2 months pass
>they talk, she now has a crush on him and they've gone out together a few times now
I don't get it, I thought I was in the clear bros....

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>>32589025
fucking based schizo

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>>32585629
I'm very shallow and just looking to bang a cutie, but I have woman anxiety. Is it immoral to swipe right on people I wouldn't fuck just to get social experience? Sincerely and autistically yours, Anon.

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threadly reminder that the incel revolution is the only solution

>>32589187
Teхт : " got any more ?"

>>32589220
>2 months pass
There's your problem.

Stupid question:
I don't like women who need me to hold their hand and are always saying things like, "Oh, let's just go wherever you want to go!" or whatever. I'm okay with a woman relying on me but not to the point where her life is completely dependent on mine.

How can I spin that in a more positive-sounding way on my dating app profiles while keeping the message clear? I've noticed I'm getting a lot of weak-willed women lately and I'm sick of it.

>>32589584
>Women
don't even know mate. Cooked out drug addicts almost make as much sense as them

>>32589395
Fuck off glowie.

>>32588969
>I used to complain being an in-shape, put-together, (semi-)wealthy STEMcel with in his early thirties wasn't attracting bitches but I was trying to pull college chicks from bars.

You really shouldn't have any problems there unless your game is completely off and you're just expecting to flaunt your wealth and autistic STEM credentials and have chicks jump on your dick. But whatever, you do you man.

>>32589331
Completely pointless. If you're not attracted, don't bother swiping. It's a waste of time.

>>32589584
Girls just like it when the man makes the plans and all that. Even if you spin it in a polite way, women won't respond well, because it's about the sentiment itself, now how nicely you express it.

I'm really feeling that its impossible for me to be attractive to women, that no amount of work or surgery can fix my flaws obvious flaws. I will never get to be above average.
How do I reconcile this fact?

>>32589669
You can just stop prioritizing a relationship.

You don't ask for advice on not giving up so you won't get any.

>>32589564
Okay but why did she go out with that guy after telling me she's not into him, like why lie?

>>32589676
2 months passed. She could've just grown closer to him over those 2 months.

>>32589673
I'd like to not give up but my own mind works against me. Because as ugly as I am I feel guilty at the thought of a girl being attracted to me.

>>32589669
a grim prospect to reconcile
psychosismaxxing is good because while people demonise you they realise you have become strangely attractive in the process
just don't let the state even slight at the idea of including you in the mental health care business model
the balance is an art form

Nothing is crueler than “You're too good for me!” I'd rather she'd come clean and say that I'm ugly or that I'm not interesting enough than listen to that shit.

>>32589663
What I'm talking about is at a different level. I must be describing it poorly. I do typically make plans and organize it all, but I'm talking about women who are incapable of expressing their own opinion and just agree with whatever I'm saying. Like they have no will of their own when I'm in the room.

>>32589719
"You're too good for me" either means you are friendzoned or it means she has severe mental problems but still wants you, badly. In general a woman will date up as much as possible, if she is self-restricting then it's a red flag if you ever do get in a relationship with her (she will be constantly insecure which just creates more impossible work for you). Or she's just lying and isn't interested in the first place.

Jesus Christ I wish women weren't cowards and would just be honest about why they're no longer interested. This shit's tedious.

>>32588992
>Imagine how this will make your wife feel
He's not married though

>>32588969
When your account is no longer new the pussy will stop flowing. That's how the algorithm works.

>>32589988
Yes, I know that and it's basically a mixture of everything, I'm kind of in the friendzone, but at the same time she's jealous of me and she has too many mental problems and still wants me I think.

The problem is that these insecure crazy women are always the ones I end up being most interested in.

>>32585629
Should I try to date interacially when I get my shit sorted out? I'm Filipino and honestly I wouldn't pick myself if I were a woman in my current state so I've been trying to get my act together and put on my best face; not be a bum, that sort of thing. I tend to feel some guilt for feeling this way because I don't want to be hurt them in my pursuit, not to mention how unnatural it is on my end. I don't intend to just indulge a fetish but I feel like I'm judging myself by my intentions and not what I actually do.

>>32589648
says the glowie himself. Your gynocratic establishment is not going to last for long faggot

>>32589658
>You really shouldn't have any problems there
Wrong. You terminally online idiots don't get it because you haven't tried because most of you don't go outside, but young women REALLY hate fucking around with older dudes unless it's something like an explicit sugaring arrangement (not ready for that yet but I might try it if I can't find a wife one day). If they're going with hookups, they'd rather go home in with some guy who's got tattoos and is 5'8" and their age with no car, than me who's 6'2" and drives a Camaro but is 10 years older than they are.
Seriously, most of those chicks guess I'm their age when I tell them to guess after they ask, because I've got a baby face. When I tell them how old I actually am, you can see the pussies drying up in real time.

>>32590010
Still plenty of time to build a roster for the next few months, delete, and come back after 3 or 4 months to swap out the girlies for freshies and have my profile be re-boosted due to all the previous inactivity

>>32590275
Why do you even bother bringing your age up? Most women don’t care, but if you’re playing guessing games with your age I can’t imagine that being really attractive.

>>32589676
Bro, women say shit like this ALL the time. A girl could tell you "Ew! I HATE guys who wear baseball caps, they give me the ick!" and then a few weeks later you see her with a guy wearing a baseball cap, women are retarded, do NOT take what they say literally.

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>>32585629
STOP APPROACHING WOMEN.
STOP USING ONLINE APPS. STOP GIVING WOMEN ATTENTION

Stop Asking Women On Dates, stop texting them thinking you are interesting because you are not. The reason you are getting ghosted is because you text and try to be funny, try to make her laugh or sound interesting. If you do manage to go to the next step and are actually meeting up and then get ghosted, stop taking women on dates. That stuff doesn't work anymore in the current year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyEdsrfTd6Q

Most importantly stop approaching women, at least for a while. They are already seething and this will only get worse and worse as they get less and less attention from men.

If men can't display a modicum of power over society, this world and women, then I guess they don't hold much power at all.

>>32590373
>Why do you even bother bringing your age up?
They always ask, because I obviously have more going on that the average student if I'm talking about owning a business and having advanced degrees.
I'm starting to realize less is more, I just need to come off as someone who's cool and rising in importance (which I am) and I can trickle the details about my life later.
>playing guessing games with your age I can’t imagine that being really attractive.
You're right it's not, I need to stop doing it but it is kind of flattering to know you're aging gracefully. It is kind of vain and weird though.

>>32585629
How big of a red flag is a woman being an animal lover and being involved in places like animal shelters?

Is it over for a 6/10 brown guy ? I think even the fat white girls are pretty cute

Zoomer here who just turned 23 yesterday. I just want to get sexual with women. I dont care about relationships or dates, or any of that extra shit. Im not a khhv, I hooked up with a hot girl once from a bar/club, along with other experiences from a dating app. However, these are rare occurences.
A relative of mine recently told me to use my Instagram to meet random girls, and it actually works better than hinge, tinder, and bumble combined. All I needed was a decent pfp and some back-and-forth texting. It got me dates, and Im still seeing one girl who wants something serious with me, but I just want to meet girls who are simply dtf.
What kind of girls should I be following who would be the most willing to just hook up or at least willing to hook up easily? I don't care about meeting girls irl anymore btw. Apparently nursing students are slutty, kek.

My stats:
>5'8 or 5'7
>definitely not fat but still skinnyfat imo. I do workout though
>consider myself a 5 or 6, but have had others consider me to be a 7 or 8
>introverted, shy, anxious, not the best talker

I'm not a chad so not every woman will be receptive on insta, and I try to follow girls who have low amounts of followers or who are below Stacy-tier.

>>32589998
Not yet, and if when he does he should think about how this behaviour will cause problems, as even persistent slights can undo a man

>>32590275
>wrong
Nope.
>terminally online idiots
I’m in the same age range as you and have no problems. I’m guessing I was correct and you are just flaunting your status like an autist and expecting results hence your weirdly touchy response.

>>32585629
Matched with a hoe. Her profile has BDSM shit, she is wearing choker every other pic, and her description mentions casual fun. There is sexual tone to my opener, she still responds. I am her first choice because she gives me her # within 3 messages yesterday. After that we start setting up a date, her place is not available but she says she is free at a timeframe I give her, so I give her my address instead and setup time and date. She then tells me she prefers doing things in public first day, and I tell her it'll be fine we can talk outside for a bit or just in the lobby since it's apartment complex, I tell her to relax since it's safe. She tells me she doesn't want to get treated like that and doesn't want to drive so far just to get that, but she is still being polite saying stuff like goodnight. I say same, goodnight, I hope she reconsiders. Sends me long text reiterating what she said before about how im treating her badly. So what gives? Likely someone better came along because I waited too long right? I'm not changing ny decision to please her, I have other options and I would never date a woman like her.

>>32591927
Just grab a drink at a public bar first. I think it's totally reasonable to not want to immediately go to someone's apartment complex when you've never met them before. Hang out for about an hour, flirt some, then take her home. She just wants to make sure you aren't a psycho/catfish/whatever.

Why is nofap such a controversial topic? It's quite clear, quite obvious that masturbation, especially in the absence of a girlfriend, is harmful for you. The most basic technique for having improved confidence is precisely that, but there's so much misinformation out there. Anyone who's had sex ought to know masturbation in the total absence of sex is not healthy behavior, it's no different from being addicted to drugs since you are not truly pleasuring yourself but wasting your energy.

>you marry the girl, you marry her family
Is this actually true? Or just a meme?

>>32592044
Nah, I have met girls like this before who were totally fine aying in my bed right away and cuddling. She does that all the time with strangers and she is still safe. I have never seen a girl who is into me not comfortable with meeting up at my place right away. The whole first date in public is complete nonsense reserved only for those they don't like. Obviously I have never had a positive experience from meeting in a public with a girl I met anywhere. If I want to spend time at a bar I can just go there, get drinks for myself and cold approach girls at the bar.

>>32592079
Might just be the girl then. She could just be weird or something. Or maybe she did just get with someone else. Who cares, you aren't actually interested in her anyways. She'll come back if she wants.

>>32591927
Women are retarded and think that if you meet once or twice in a public space first (e.g. bar or cafe) that means they can trust you.
Basically she thinks that you are probably a rapist or a murder or some shit. This fear would have been alleviated if you made small talk with her in a cafe for an hour or so and then met again another time for sex.

She's probably nuts anyway (BDSM chick) so it's probably for the best you didn't bang her.

Hey, so I'm a khv and I'll be 28 in a few days.
If I ever get the opportunity to kiss a girl/ make out/ have sex, is it a good idea to research and find out how to first or is it just instinctive, common sence stuff that will come to me naturally in the moment?

Obviously researching stuff like this sounds autistic, but I figure I need whatever edge I can get to compete with other guys my age.

I pretty much just put my lips on hers for a while, stick my tounge in her mouth, grope the fun parts, stick my thing in her thing, and hump till it's over, right?

>>32586814
No, when you do stop looking you literally lose any small pathetic chance you ever had. Fuck off you clueless cunt

>>32588476
You look like a murderer but one that has to ask his parents permission to leave the house. Weird, creepy shit. I can totally get why it never happened, sorry mate. Can't help the hand we're dealt

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I'm 26 and I have no friends, no social life. Nothing. I'm alone. Terrified of this, terrified of marrying late and having kids late. Terrified of letting desperation get me hitched with the first woman who tolerates me.

Starting from 0, how long would it take till. I can start dating? I can't just date right away, right? Also, terrified of lacking any self-awareness and falling for a woman who acts like my mom.

>>32592335
Howso? I’ve lived my myself for the past 9 years in a luxury apartment, and I work in healthcare with a pretty good salary, hang out with friends and shit. Idk why I’m giving off creepy vibes. I’m just lonely and depressed sometimes, feel the sense of a lack of any romance in my life..

Don't post anything useful or interesting here, it will be used against you by doxxing NSA/other likes.

Just watch the youtubers like wingman and the others. There is nothing useful you can gain from this corrupted shit-hole and the faster you learn this the better off you will be.

>>32591667
Let's do some game theory, since as an autist I enjoy that shit
Who is more likely to lie? The guy who wants to prove his point, or a guy who has already admitted to his inadequacies and has nothing to prove but is relaying his experience?

everything changed for me once I realized women are dumb as shit and you can just lie to them.

>what do you do for work?
oh yeah I work in finance babe. just gotta wear a $20 sport coat off the rack at ross and let her see the robinhood app on my screen a couple times and she'll totally buy it
>what are your hobbies?
I fucken love cooking babe, check out my copy of rombauer on the kitchen counter next to a stand mixer. all the proof they need.
and so on

literally just lie and they'll do the rest of the work in their heads. if you're not liemaxxing in 2025 then you're just ngmi.

>>32591667
>>32592480
You know what, I take that shit-snark reply back, I'll instead say I think my original point still stands. I'm at the end of the day, a nerd, a dork, a geek, a freak
My lane is obviously desperate professional women, and you know what? I'm good. I just had a date today with a tiny Iranian slimthick former professor who cashed out to work at Amazon, and she's cute as fuck, good kisser, next date literally already planned. I'm equally looking forward to my date this Thursday with the big tittied but by some miracle not fat black therapist who needs to "destress and unwind" after helping her mom recover from surgery.
I'm swimming like a fish that has found the current.

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>graduated uni without finding a wife or forming a strong friend group/network
>basically my biggest regret in life so far, the one point where I feel I really fucked up
>check out website of my local community college
>classes are once a week and only cost a few hundred dollars
>can just sign up for a couple night classes for english or psych or some other female-brained topics and be back in university

should I do it? I can easily afford it and I could probably sleep through the classes and still pass. I could use this opportunity to make friends and meet women in a common setting. no schooler, but I keep reading (on twitter) that university is basically most men's last chance to find a long-term partner, and the further I get from my uni days the more convinced I am that it's true.

what do bros?

any thoughts on matrimonial sites?

>>32585629
I was in a crowded retail store on Sunday, absolute cutie for a cashier that I unfortunately didn't get the chance to check out/flirt with.

My question, do I go back and approach her directly while she's working to flirt and try to exchange numbers? Or am I better off approaching another worker with the "hey I was in last week and noticed cute girl, I didn't want to impose while she's working yada yada, but could you pass my number along?"

Direct is obviously preferred, but are there chances if I go the indirect route? Store is an athletic store, mostly women workers, but could be a guy or two. Would indirect work better with a female or male co-worker?

>>32592480
>>32592554
I was going to retort that you're just proving my point about being touchy but since you seem to have cooled down a little, I'll refrain.

>My lane is obviously desperate professional women, and you know what? I'm good.

If it works dude, good for you. Genuinely glad for you. I maintain my point that I don't think the problem is younger women being uninterested but how you present yourself.

>>32592491
THIS! I tell girls that I am doing some amateur acting, and I send them a nice picture of me along with a few random scenery shots I took, and tell them "this is a concept shot of a potential scene Im in." They buy it lmfao.

The less attractive you are, the more you have to impress them with status, even if you have to lie. It's not ideal, but...

>>32592589
Sure you can try that
>university is basically most men's last chance to find a long-term partner
Uni is a great place to meet women, but there are ways to salvage this. Personally, I am in my last year of undergrad and have not met a woman at uni. I was only talking to two girls and they both cut me off. On top of that, the girls in uni just dont want to talk, and are closed off to the vast majority of the guys.

To remedy this, I am now using Instagram to meet random women in my area and it's the best dating decision I have ever made. Just go on the instagram page of large accounts in your city (bars, clubs, unis, colleges, etc) and pick a girl who you think you can realistically get. All you need is a decent pfp. I followed a mid girl with less than 200 followers and now she's thinking about being serious after three dates, kek.

>>32592853
>I maintain my point that I don't think the problem is younger women being uninterested but how you present yourself.
Well, who knows that could be the problem. Maybe I'll find out one day, but I'm wound tight as a clock spring so I don't know if I'll ever be able to vibe with young girls again unless I'm really focusing on finding a young wife and find someone super compatible.
Can't believe I forgot for a second that we're all in this together as men. Glad you're getting yours out there too bro.

>>32592711
>but could you pass my number along
don't ever do this creepy ass shit my man.

I told her this morning I am her future husband

>>32592711
Holy cringe overload.

>>32592992
Not I says the walrus

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any help is appreciated but I will have to check your answers first

>>32592345
You gotta start somewhere. Why have you waited so long?

>>32594463
Long story, but I think it can be summed up as emotional avoidance, and a fear of caring.

I've overcome a lot of personal issues though, and I'm ready to actually live my life.

women are scary

>>32592046
You have it backwards. Nofap in the total absence of sex is unhealthy. It drives men completely crazy. Being less levelheaded actually impedes the ability to attract women, because they don't want someone who is on edge and appears needy. I feel 100x better and more confident fapping once a week than I ever did with nofap. Yes it's a waste of energy but having maximum energy is not the end all be all of success.

Eurocuck here.

Where a u meeting woman? They do nothing

Shoud i start approaching?Tinder?

>>32595193
lmao ur so fucked dude. just give up.

>>32592865
Could you tell me more about the Instagram method? You find girls that are following large accounts? How do you cold DM them?

>>32595323
this nerd doesn’t know how to cold dm. ngmi. only works if you are attractive, which you likely aren’t. ngmi dork.

And when I figure out who that coccksucker is I will chain him to a tree and pull him apart.

>>32595484
you are not gonna do shit buddy. try and see what happens you virgin pussy

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My wife is unreal hot
"but you don't have a wife.."
Not yet but I am going to ask my girlfriend to get married with me
"but you don't have a girlfriend.."
Not yet but I am going to get with the slut who showed me tongue
...
ezpz

>>32595323
Go to large instagram accounts that are in your city, be it of a university, college, bar, club, restaurant, a local e celeb, etc. Get creative. Then, follow girls who you think you have a shot with. For example, I usually follow girls who have less than 1000 followers, or who are not Stacies. Then, if they follow back, dm them. Have a conversation and ask them out within two weeks.

>>32595484
based schizo anon

> girl sent me a 1.23 mina voice message
I'm afraid to listen. Why did she send it? What's the hidden meaning ?

>>32585650
A man of fine taste

>>32595683
yeah nah
fuck that

>>32595692
I don't get it

>>32595695

>>32592882
>>32592992
thanks kings

>>32595614
And these women are receptive to some random guy DMing them? Won't they question how you got their info or how they know you?

>>32595923
>these women are receptive to some random guy DMing them?
Yes. Women are not as averse to men as a lot of you like to imagine. They absolutely are willing to talk to certain men, even if he’s a stranger on social media. The more attractive you appear on your profile, the more receptive they will be. For me, all it took was a decent pfp which is the bare minimum.
>wont they question how you got their info
They do question that. I just lie and tell that instagram suggested their profile to me.

is it over if i am short( like 5 5)? I sometimes notice girls checking me out at public places, clubs, college and library. Those at college and library would check me out over a longer period of time( like multiple classes or study sessions) yet I never approach because in my mind I try to be as objective as possible and find counterexamples for why she could be looking at me or just wanting more data to see if I am right or imagining things. I dont think i would get that kind of attention being this short so I kinda have a hard time believing it

>>32592865
>All you need is a decent pfp.
How many pics do you have in your profile and what do you kind pics do you upload (like doing what kind of activities to said profile)

>>32596734
I don’t have any posts. I just have a decent pfp

>>32592589
The thing is, I'm in college. I returned about a year ago at 25 (now I'm 27) to finish my CS degree (stopped at 2 years). At first it was easy, I was meeting new girls and then settled into a particular girl that I liked. But that girl was a bit chubby and ugly, I only wanted sex from her. Then other hotter girls started taking notice how much I was talking to this girl, so they started talking to me more and more. Both of them were Asian girls, which are my weakness. Then when my interest for this chubbier girl completely subsided, I wanted a deeper relationship with an Asian girl that was my type. But she took note of this change of behavior, and strung me along. As a result I got ghosted and treated in the worst way possible after she pulled me in, and then after a year of loneliness I was placed back in a class with her, after which she added salt to the wound by talking to a loser consistently she never talked to before. So I was done with her for good, and there was an even hotter Asian female sitting closer to me but she was always talking to another Asian dude. But me and this girl, we stared at each other many times in passing. Today we share our final class, and she was eager to see me as I walked into the class, but me being an idiot and not knowing what to say besides we shared classes in the past just walked past and sat next to my old friends. I've wanted to say hi to this hottie for a long time but the wounds from before still hold me back, "should I trust Asian Americans around here?" I still ask myself. I say here because it's a bit of a ghetto area (but the uni is okay).

>>32596764
That being said, I've had many chances at cold approaching that I've fucked up. Many hotties over time sitting over and over in a place where I frequent, or the girl looks at me as I sit down in the cafeteria, that kind of thing, and the most egregious was a girl with a nice ass pausing, turning around, the sitting down, turning around many times before her friends came over and also played this staring game with me as I was eating my food. This was a day that I dressed well, my face looks nice (fresh cut) and I'm also physically and facially attractive.

>>32596760
>just have a decent pfp

Honestly I find this hard to believe. Your profile basically lacks what most women screen for (social proof) and you have success? Unless you mean your pfp shows you with friends? Or what is it? Aren't pfps just closeup of your face? The only kind of pic that I can imagine working in this scenario is something showing off your body, such as a shirtless pic in a pool, gym, etc...

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How do I find a woman like picrel? I’m in college, but classes have only provided either vapid, self-absorbed women or unstable women looking for nothing more than quick sex and an excuse for all of their problems. Bars are still a few months away. Apps haven’t been great.
Inb4 “check the graveyards”

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How does this shit happen? I feel like someone here would know.

Tell me.

How does this shit happen?

>>32586814
This is actually good advice, but you won’t be scoring points with the virgins here. However, it should be noted that women tend to be more attracted to guys who don’t desire them. I think people naturally gravitate towards self loving types. Having an aura of “I don’t give a shit I’m going to have fun no matter what” seems a lot more enticing than “woe is me I hate you all unless you give me a gf.”

>>32586814
>girl on a 4chan adjacent telegram group, we spoke there for about a month, then spoke in messages for about another month
>had a ridiculous amount in common
like the size of your cocks?

>>32589331
>Is it immoral to swipe right on people I wouldn't fuck just to get social experience?
It's fine, women find ways to rationalize much shittier behavior than that

Is it a good sign if a girl gives you a long high pitched "byeeeee"? In person of course.

>>32592058
It depends how close she is to her family, obviously. I wouldn't worry much about it in the US unless her family were real fuckups. Other, more traditional countries it can be a much bigger deal

>>32592352
>Idk why I’m giving off creepy vibes
serious face, bad lighting, 1st pic background looks like your grandmas house

>>32595683
>Why did she send it?
because girls are annoying
>What's the hidden meaning ?
she likes to hear herself talk

so her and i live in a small town where the only thing to go out and do is the bar and i'm just really tired of that scene at the moment
what can i possibly do to spend time with her?

>>32598053
driving around listening to good raps and Indie and whatever gets the mood

>>32598263
>driving around listening to good raps
40 year old boomer here, can you tell me why the kids almost exclusively listen to rap? It seems like the only thing they find acceptable to be played at the gym these days

>>32598053
Move.

>>32598854
The American culture is centered around niggers. They have holidays for niggers. They killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free niggers. They listen to nigger music. They elect a nigger as their president. They dress and act like niggers. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from niggers. They post sassy gifs about niggers. They watch sportsball in worship of niggers. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of niggers playing sports. They use nigger slang like "bruh" and "thot". When you say "Martin Luther" they're not thinking of the father of protestantism. They're thinking of the nigger. Their cities are completely overrun with niggers. They worship their ZOGbot police force disproportionately filled with niggers and their global police force of soldiers filled with niggers. Their men sit around watching nigger ball while their women sit around watching nigger talk shows. They worship niggers like Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson and the late Mike Tyson while attacking the whites who actually built their country before niggers took over. Their movies are filled with niggers and their music charts are topped by niggers. They send niggers to the Olympics and celebrate when the niggers win because those niggers are true red blooded american niggers. They watch nigger porn to a point where "BBC" does not make them think of an international media company but about nigger penises instead. They will tell you how much they hate niggers and how the mutt's law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love niggers but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of nigger loving niggers

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mmuHjHG-ZgA
How do I experience this as a 30 year old white guy without having the police called or being TikTok’d??
It’s all I want in life and I can only dream.

>>32592429
The wingmen are all black going after white women. Yeah us white guys literally have no chance white women hate us.

I have a crush on this barista where I drink my morning coffee. Cute face, long blonde hair. .Not like stunningly beautiful but beautiful in a cute way. A bit like that blonde barista girl that went viral for a bit. She has tried making some small talk with me two times now and I always shoot it down. Sometimes our eyes meet each other and you know there's something there and I feel jittery like a teenager. She's early 20s I think. It's the first time I've felt this in years. Maybe because I'm 2 months out of my previous relationship idk.

I don't want to act on it but I do at the same time. I'm anxious I guess. Should I shoot my shot nonetheless?

>>32599293
Just talk to her and "become friends" with her (if she is interested you will catch feelings and eventually date her)

>>32599293
>She has tried making some small talk with me two times now and I always shoot it down
Lower your autism shields anon, she's trying to make this easy for you

>>32588365
Why would it? Seems like a pretty redpilled take to me.

>>32588672
>Why? Because you're the fish, women are the lure. Stop acting like you're bait, you aren't. You select, you're not selected.
Seems like a poor analogy. In nature it is the males who are truly beautiful sex. Lions have their manes, peacocks have their long feathers. Males have to look cool and imposing in order for females to select them. It is women who select who they open their legs to, but you're making it seems like its a passive position, when its an active one. Men cant afford to be passive.

>>32599313
Heh. I guess it's a matter of optics. I'm a full grown man. Sure I look a year or two younger than my actual age but I'm not delusional. She's early 20s for sure. I don't want to come off like a weirdo that's what's holding me back most

>>32599312
That might be a good approach actually. Showing too much romantic/sexual interest might be too much at first

man I miss having a woman in my arms. shit is driving me crazy. it's not even a sexual thing, I just miss that feminine energy in my life even with all its downsides

>>32588530
bruh you're not bad looking but your expression is dangerous. you have that rapist look going on. uber small wide set masculine eyes. don't glare or squint if you have those kind of eyes. it doesn't make you look like le ebin dark triad slayer, it makes you look like a greasy intimidating rapist

>>32591135
Depends on the type of brown desu. Fat white girls and hispanic/black dudes are a dime a dozen (actually much easier if you're a man who is skinny or in shape but then you probably wouldn't be a 6/10 unless you're hideous/very short).

If you're south asian (seen as Indian in most places) then you're better off looksmaxxing and going for your own kind, I don't think public perception has turned in any big way for you lot yet which makes it much harder

>>32585629
>tfw 6'3, nordic, handsome, 7"+ schlong
>tfw also poor as dirt, had to move back in with my mom now at 28, fucked mental health

this might genuinely be a worse fate than just being ugly. everywhere women show interest and I always have to brush them off. when I go on dates it never progresses past the first because I lie/too scared to open up about my failure of a life so far

how over is it?

>>32598854
>born 84/85
>boomer
nah m8

>>32599950
A lot of women are open to hobosexuals they find attractive. Just state upfront that you moved back in with your mom for a bit while you get back on your feet. A lot, not ALL and maybe not even most, but a lot of women will assume that you're close with family, responsible, and in need of comfort. I understand that you aren't in the most ideal situation but don't be afraid to put yourself out there still

I wasn’t a sexist before I understood women. There was a time when I was blissfully ignorant. I grew up watching Disney cartoons, I believed in romance and “true love conquers all” etc. I wanted to find a woman who could be my equal, my partner. I believed in finding that one true love and being committed to each other forever. You know, like in the marriage vows, “for better or for worse, through sickness and in health, for richer of for poorer” etc. And I believed that women basically wanted the same thing. Now I understand that this way was only possible when society was structured to enforce it. Now that women are “liberated” (and thus at the mercy of their own emotions and baser insticts) this is mostly no longer possible in today’s society. Victorian society, or many Arab societies, are examples of how society used to be structured to keep women as faithful as possible.
I’d like to point out that I am not a misogynist… I love women. But I AM a sexist, in the sense that I believe women are vastly different than men and, according to the standards that men hold for other men, women are inferior as well.

I must be a bitter loser, right? In fact, I enjoy more success with women thanmost of the men in this city. I have spelt with over 200 women in my life. I am sleeping with 5 different women right now. They are all normal, healthy, well-adjusted, good looking (8+ on the looks scale) professional women. (At least as normal and healthy and well-adjusted as women can be- most women have issues.) But that’s not all. I can go out any night of the week and pick up a woman. I can pick her up in fornt of all her friends (with 80% efficiency for each approach.) Women will slip me their phone number when their boyfriend is in the bathroom. I can talk to women on the street or in the grocery store and within 30 minutes, I can usually have sex with them right there in my car or get them back to my place. If I have to settle for a phone number, and I met her on another day, assuming she doesn’t flake, I WILL fuck her that next day.

Let me point out right now that my Modus Operandi doesn’t change in the slightest if she single or if she has a boyfriend or husband. I just do my normal routine and I fuck her. Sometimes she brings up the boyfriend so she won’t feel guilty when I fuck her because now it’s “my fault”. Sometimes she hides it from me until after I’ve fucked her, then she admits it. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been laying next to some chick, all sweaty cause I just finished busting a nut all over her face or in her mouth or on her back, and suddently her phone righs and she’s on the phone with her man, giving him some bullsit story. This is with NO GUILT WHATSOEVER!!! The sweetest most innocent girls you ever laid eyes on, will cheat at the drop of a HAT. The one thing that most men value most – loyalty – is just not there with women. Women don’t think in terms of honor, women don’t say “word is bond;” women are basically emotionally driven. If they feel it, they do it, period. Then they rationalize it to themselves later. Nothing is more meaningful, or compelling, to a woman than (1) the way she feels and (2) learning more about her own inner self and having emotinal realizations. That’s why women love astrology, chick flicks, soap operas, stupid Cosmo quizes that supposedly reveal info about yourself, etc.

I must be really good looking, right? NOPE. My looks are marginal; I’m maybe a 7. I don’t work out (though I’m not fat or anything.) In fact I didn’t have any success with women until I was in my early 20’s. That’s when I decided to go out a lot and star trying to get laid… I was willing to face rejection a tousand times a night, and do it over and over, trying everything, until I got it right. I had to completely set my ego aside. I didn’t get laid at all for the first few months. Then every now and then. Then pretty often. Then downright consistently! I’m in my early 30’s now and I am basically a sexual god. I wouldnt have even believed this was possible when I was in high school. The only factor that determined whether a woman would cheat was my own skill level. When my skills were poor, women shit all over me. (Everyone knows how women think they have license to be rude bitches in social situations… in fact I understand an appreciate that behavior now). But one my skills got good, I could fuck just about anyone’s wife or girlfriend. And many times I dindn’t know they had a man until after I fucked them.

Look, I’m not saying that men are perfect, or whatever. Far from it. I’m just saying, I’ve spent a lot of my time studying women and interacting with them, and I know how they are. In fact, sometimes I hate knowing it. Sometimes I wish I had taken the blue pill, and never went down the rabbit hole, becaue now there’s really no going back. I didn’t want to believe these things… but how could I ever get married now? How could I ever be the chump who pays for everything and blissfuully goes throught life not worrying about his woman because he trusts her? Look, would you leave a dog alone with a steak? You can’t hate the dog for doing what’s in its nature. You can’t trust a dog, BUT you can trust a dog to BE a dog. Some men are disloyal… but I could “never” trust a woman to be loyal. Some men are bad presidents… but I could “never” vote for a woman to be president. I can rarely expect a woman to regard her own promises as more important and compelling to her than the emotions she feels in the moment. She will rationalize it to herself later.

>>32598881
The entire society is built for women. They are the only ones complacent with those thugs because they are sexually attracted to them. They don't mind living in the hood, in the midst of a broken city next to hardened criminals. Compare this to a society that is built for men like Japan.

Here’s an interesting fact. Did you know that the median 22 year old woman has TWICE as much sex as the median 22 year old man? You might ask, how is that possible? If a woman’s having sex, doesn’t that mean a man is having sex all the time? And thus, shouldn’t men be having just as much sex as women? NO...because most men hardly get laid, or if they do, it’s because they “got lucky.” But a small group of men get laid ALL THE TIME, and fuck LOTS AND LOTS of women! It’s evolution at work. Women follow their emotions, and that leads them to sleep with men like me (who know how to control female emotions.) Women want the top man… so the top man fucks lots of women. That’s right – the sexual revolution, feminism, etc has resulted in a return to harems. Women, at the mercy of their own emotions, are volunteering for the modern-day equivalent of harems. Lucky for me!! Heh.
You might say, “But...but… I’m so nice! I’m a nice guy!” Guess what? That’s like a fat chick saying, “But I’m so smart!” As if those things have anything in the world to do with sexual attraction!

I’m going to give some tips here for the poor sucker guys who are posing online trying to get laid and who are spenidng hundreds / thousands of dollars on all those whores out there without getting any play. (You bitches know exactly what you’re doing, and I’m on to your game!)

*Don’t be sexually judgemental in any way. A woman’s worst fear is to be perceived as a slut. She will suck your toeas and take it in the ass if she thinks you don’t view her poorly for it (and she knows her friends won’t find out.)

*Don’t get angry at her. Women know they have emotional outbursts and they need to trust that you can handle that. It’s ok (and necessary) to occassionally put your foot down… just make sure she knows you are fully in control of yourself.

*Don’t let her manipulate you or control you in any way. She will immediately lose all respect for you. Always be leading. It’s just like dancing – women hate a man who can’t lead.

*When first approaching a woman or a group, they tend to get a feeling like this is just your little scheme to get close to them, when you really just want something from them – like sex. (And they’re right.) It’s important to structure your body language and conversation so that they honetly don’t believ you want something from them. They should feel like you are about to leave at any second.

nah m8 you're alright
neo liberal poofter feminism ruined eveything

*DON’T TRY TO IMPRESS HER IN ANY WAY. Don’t show off. Don’t talk about accomplishments or possessions. As soon as she percieves that you are trying to prove yourself to her, she loses all interest.

*Don’t ignore her friends. A woman values her friend’s opinions more than just about anything else in the world. Nothing matters to her more than what other women are thinking. Give her friends lots of attention and get everyone laufhing. If one woman is feeling different than the others. She will grag them away. They will follow like a flock of pigeons. Society is the book of women. (Notice that men do NOT behave this way! Womeh are very different!)

*To get a woman attracted / emotionally vulnerable, give her lots of emotions and feelings. Don’t just make her feel good. Make her feel good, and angry, and sad, and connected, and astonished, and intrigued, etc. Make her laugh. Tease her. Tell stories about your sick puppy. Tell her why things would never work out between the two of you. Call her a dork. If she gets heated up, she will start touching you… playfully push her away. If she calls you a jerk and punches your arm. You are doing it right. If she gives you that “I can’t believ you just said that” look, do NOT back down, do not say “Oh I’m just kidding” or anything like that.

*As she gets more emotional, she will try to ruin things by throwing in logic. She will ask you if you are a player, or If you say this to all the girls, or whatever. The trick is this: Don’t take it seriously by giving some logical answer! That’s right… women lose interest if you take them serously!!! It’s crazy but that’s how they behave. Just blow it off or misintterpret what she’s saying as though she is coming on to you. If you fail these tests, she will be gone so fast your head will spin.

*She will start asking you lots of questions. This is what chicks do when they suddently find themselves attracted to a man they know nothing about. This is your chance to open up a little and aslo find out more about her and build a deeper connection. You have to do this, or she will flake later (even if your’ve kissed her!) women are the worst flakes in the world! Don’t make it too easy for her, make her work for it a bit. Then talk about connections and childhood memories and things yo uhave in common, etc. She neds to feel that this is genuine. This is usually the time when I throw in a few fake vulnerabilities, like pretending I’m shy or insecure about something. I know it’s fucked up but women need to see that there are at least a few small holes where they can sink their kooks in you. They get uneasy if you are too perfect.

*Make sure she gets the feeling that you have standards and that you are judging her based on them. Ask her questins that show her you are checking her out to see if she is up to snuff. Women don’t like to feel like you are with them only because you can’t do any better. They prefer to feel like you have high standards: you can get any chick you want, but you chose HER because she is SSOOOO special and SOOOO different from all the others. Yeah, I know.

*Move her to different locations. Take her next door for a drink. Take her across the street to check some art. The more locations the better.

* Take responsibility for every escalation. A woman will do just about anything as long as she doesn’t have to feel like it was “her fault.” Make it YOUR fault. Make it “just happen.” She will rationalize it to herself later using the same bullshit generator that women use to flake out on dates at the last minute. Don’t get her horny until you get her isolated. Believe me, emotional is better than horny.

*Keep the woman always swinging somewhere between validation and rejection. If she feels rejected, she drops out or gets REALLY MAD. And if she feels too validated, she will ditch you in a heartbeat. So push her away (emotionally) and then pull her back in.

* BELIEVE YOUR OWN BULLSHIT. Chicks do not look at your excuses and try to see if they are bullshit or not… because that is the logical thing to do, and chicks are not logica. Rather, what they do is see if YOU seem to believe your own bullshit when you say it. If you look like you do, thenthen chances are, they will believe it too. So the key is to believe your own bullshit, and other aspects about yourself that you want the chick to believe about you (alpha male.. whatever)… because your own self beliefs for some reason will automatically “impart” to the chick!

>>32601684
>>32601707
All of this is nonsense and you can throw it out the window once you are Chad. Notice how Chad doesn't have to try or even read all this nonsense, because that's exactly how he behaves. It comes naturally to Chad and he just knows what to do or say every situation. Which is why it's futile. You can do almost every step right, but then fuck up at one step near the end because you're not naturally an asshole (E.G. you grew close and you took her seriously because you got emotionally closer)

>>32585629
Here's your daily fucking reminder not to post anything here because kikes will doxx you

>>32601770
Also I noticed that Chads like to carry themselves in a certain carefree manner that is very hard to fake. Like they can be tasked with doing something, but they're barely paying attention, always wondering around, looking away as they talk if they are not interested in what they're doing, that kind of thing. It's hard to fake, and they pull this off perfectly with chicks, since they're almost always barely paying attention to them.

>>32601770
chads know that women only leverage is their pussy.
That's all.
Their only survival tool is pussy, they can't do anything else.

>>32601770
>you're not naturally an asshole
knowing that women are walking pussies and nothing else, and that they are extremely fragile in terms of survival and they need men to do anything, has the potential of giving you Chad superpowers to some extent. It won't change your brokeness, but it can give you a chance.

*One more thing… many guys make the mistake of listening to female romantic advice. Don’t listen to them. THEY DON’T KNOW WTF THEY REA TALKING ABOUT, and they WILL steer you wrong. They will tell you what they THINK they want, instead of what they actually RESPOND to. And furthermore, a large part of the female sexual experience IS the inability to admit these things BECAUSE they derive sexual pleasure from putting up resistance and being overwhelmed.

If you do things this way, after a few months practice you WILL get laid like a rock star. The guys who get laid are the ones who know what they are doing, because they have practiced on lots of women. Ironically, women are most attracted to the men who are most likely to fuck them and then dump them on their ass – because those are precisely the men who have so many other options because they practice on lots of women. That’s why you always hear women bitching about how men are assholes that only want to fuck them and dump them- because those are the men that they gravitate to.

>ask for her number
>ask to go out sometime this week
>ask to "hang out" sometime this week
What's the safest bet here for someone you run into every so often and have already gotten their name? Also I'm a sperg when it comes to this sort of shit but actually talking after that initial hurdle with someone I like comes natural

>>32601879
bro, I didn't understand.
do you english?

>>32601885
Yeah lmao, where'd I fuck up?

>>32601904
i get it. I did't get that you were asking what is better because I'm low IQ
say: "hey, I'll be going to x place this day, it would be cool if you want to come"
That way you are not showing youre desperate

>>32601628
>I have spelt with over 200 women in my life.
Ok, but were the words hard?

>>32592865
Same situation, last year of undergrad, I've had a few hookups during my 4 years. None of these women are looking to date and they're all fucking weird and whorish. How the fuck do you meet people on Instagram???? You just DM random girls from looking at posts in the locations part?

How can I even date a girl when I'm like a freak by society's standards? Do I have to get rid of all my Hitler memorabilia?

>>32601967
Nein
jUsT bEe UrSeLf

>>32601960
Also just tried the IG thing and there are literally no young women posting stuff, it's all like business accounts

>>32601904
Ignore that fag, he's a pajeet.

>>32601858
I have been horny my entire life and had been seeing women as just holes and that never changed anything. Whether I only want sex or whether I pay attention to them it always ends the same way with them. No woman has ever shown me her naughty side even if they show strong interest, when I pursue or try to setup things I get cut off regardless of any approach I take.

>>32602006
Well, except fat girls, but I'm not counting fat girls because who wants what no one else wants? When I'm down bad I think of using fat girls, they cross my mind, but that's it.

guys, i wanna get a girl drunk so we can get high and have sex with her friend. i can supply the weed and booze but i'm also thinking red bulls, coffee, and molly. i'm hoping i can find a reliable acid hook up. i wanna get my dick sucked and plan to nut in both these girls.

>>32585629
How do I start chatting with women on dating apps? Like we'll match, I'll shoot some kind of message her way (usually some kind of hi hello there with a question/reference to her profile) and I'll never get a response. I'm obviously doing something wrong

>>32602393
Asking her what her weekend plans are is a good start. Gives insight to her life or an opportunity to ask her to dinner.

I used to just ask “Do you want to make out?” And got a few dates that way. But I’m old enough to be embarrassed by that opener now

>>32601960
>>32601982
Instagramanon here.
>last year of undergrad, I've had a few hookups during my 4 years
Woah that's a lot for an anon in undergrad. I'm guessing you're in a female-dominated program like political science or English? I've only hooked up with one girl from a bar, and one from an app. No one from my uni even gave a shit about me kek.

As for meeting women on Instagram, here is what I do:
>got a decent pfp of myself. I dont even have any posts or that many followers. Maybe put your city and/or uni in your bio if you want, but it's not necessary
>i go to the large local Instagram accounts (unis, colleges, bars, clubs, local e-celebs, local art organizations, etc. Use your imagination).
>i scroll through the likes of the posts of these accounts
>or, i scroll through the followers list of these large accounts, since they usually have a lot. for more efficiency, just type in a random female name in the followers list to quickly find women.
>i then follow women i think i can get, but who still look attractive (ie women with less than 1000 followers)
>if they follow me back, i dm them. if we manage to get a conversation going then I ask them out within one to two weeks, maybe even within a few days

I should have done this years ago. It works better than an actual dating app for several reasons: You have greater control of the women you select, whereas a dating app selects the women for you. You also have access to more women since I imagine instagram is more widely used than any individual dating app. You also bypass the competitive sausage-fest found on dating apps.

Things still don't always go my way. Some women dont follow or dm me back. They may ghost me, leave me on read or delivered, dump me after a date or two, or refuse to give me physical pleasure. I'm still neither tall, a chad nor statusmaxxed , so I am not surprised when these things happen. Regardless, instagram has given me the most options and results for the first time in my life.

>>32599293
>>32599312
>>32599313
brothers I talked to her and we have a date tomorrow. incredible. thank you for the advice. like I could genuinely cry like a bitch from the anxiety and happiness. I need to calm my nerves to not fuck this up tbf. she's so beautiful and was so kind

How true is the high pitched voice equaling attraction theory?

>>32602521
I have also clocked a cafe qt but
but what
I'm not sure

>>32602632
seems legit. I have an embarrassingly low buzzing voice and I speak above my voice with women, espically women I like. no reason why women won't do the same

I recently read the book of pook (https://bookofpook.com/) and i can highly recommend it. I already had some success implementing the methods. Ask for a blogpost, if you want
Have you guys read the seduction bible (https://attractwomen.gumroad.com/l/seducewomen)?
Is it worth it? Thanks for the recommendation

>>32602805
>rejection is better than regret
yes

>>32602813
is that a yes to the seduction bible?
also >rejection is better than regret very true

>>32602805
>Ask for a blogpost, if you want

just post it obvious that you want to
how did you have success using it?

>>32602857
two core messages of the book are (and they are stupidly obvious): Don't care and have fun. I was meeting friends in pub. My ex-fwb was also there. In the past i refused to drink any alcohol and was kind of a bore. It was apparent that i was uncomfortable.
This time i threw care out the window, relaxed and didnt care about how the night was gonna go. I had a few drinks which i was fine with and i had fun. I didnt care what any of the others, guys and girls, thought about me. I was in "action" mode not in thinking mode.
The one thing i did is i looked up and prepared fun drinking games.
the book helped me get out of my shell and i was successful in so far, that i had a fun night, i came across as relaxed and laid back and the girls were very receptive to my shenanigans

>>32602894
random women literal harass me in street as my shenanigans are legendary

>>32602894
>My ex-fwb was also there.

So it sounds like you were already a dude that could attract women and didn't really need any extra help. Le sigh.

>>32602956
i wouldn't say that. Attracting her already required some changes in my way of live. there's just always room for improvement. and one of the reasons it ended between us because i (for better or worse) am sometimes really uptight and controlling. letting go and relaxing is the answer.

>>32602956
lë sïgh

>>32588365
No, I like having female friends I'm not attracted to (not that they are ugly, just that I'm not that attracted to them). Because then I can get female friendship and calm myself without ambiguity and the fear of sex and needing to invest myself for life. I also love the idea of being able to get joy and cultivate nice things in relationships, and with the other sex, that aren't sexual. Your wife would need to be a friend too.
And also maybe I will then get a wife, but she needs to be a nice friend for this.

>>32602987
>female friends
yeah nah
even just
>female plural
is problematic

>>32602987
It’s impossible to have female friends because no woman wants to be “friends” with a guy unless they want to fuck you. If I ask a woman to be friends and swap numbers she never responds.
Also how do I approach women without being called a pedophile? I approached a woman at the mall and they said they started recording me and said they are 16 and even though 16 is legal I panicked and ran.

>>32602956
>>32603078
Jesus. Just coming in here and reading the last few threads in the thread from the bottom up, I can see some of you are more far gone than I thought.

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>>32585629
I'd recommend pic related if you finished reading Models and want something that digs a little deeper in to the hows and whys of female behavior

>>32585629
So I'm trying to escape inceldom, but I'm not really convinced by the women I find, or by the idea of getting engaged with those. I still want to have women friend, to talk with them, I guess have these friedship and company. But I feel guilty because I know some will want me to advance things even if they don't say so.
So now I am talking with this third world girl but she's too far apart from me, my country and all (even if she already came in mine)
So I don't know what to do. I want to experience the fact I can really seduce, to not be in an incel mindset but instead enter and settle into an abondance mindset and to be sure it can happen, and I can find my wife, and I want to have options, possibilites to find the right one, but also I feel guilty doing that (evn if maybe I will not fall into sex with them, in this case it's safe since she's really far away) and I don't want to hurt people, etc...
It is very hard to do the "pray to God and he will find you a gf" since it's hard not to want it, or not to fall into an incel mindset/energy that is not pleasant at all, etc... And also I don't want to settle just for the eh "woman" that would just be a random woman.
Also is that true that you should want a better life with your wife than alone, like wait for a better quality of life, not more boring, more empty, etc... ?

>>32585629
Is there a book to explain how to become friends with lots of women ? It's for gold(wife)mining.

>>32586814
absolute horse shit. and with a fake internet gf to justify it! God forbid anyone sees this post and keeps this idiotic "don't try" meme alive.

>>32602987
beta orbiter detected
>friends with women
you failed before you even began

>>32603078
kek
back to the drawing board

>>32603966
could a dangerous situation anon give us some more details on this third world internet broad. where is she from? how'd you meet?

Hello sex havers, I'm an autistic incel. I've started interacting with people more now that I'm not a neet. I've noticed a consistent behavior in my female coworkers towards me, initially they avoid me but very soon they become extremely friendly to the point of it being a bit creepy while I try to remain distant but polite. I know it's not attraction because if it was they wouldn't avoid interacting with me in the beginning, so do you have a possible explanation?

>>32604006
you know nothing. put your ideas aside for a while and read the top recommended books here with an open mind and come back.

>>32604048
I'm thinking they're entertained by you in some way and don't see you as a threat or too creepy. girls can bully in this way as well so maybe that's what's going on. a set up to get you in trouble or humiliate you. just keep cool play it safe don't let them play you.

>>32604062
I ain't scared of them muthafuckas.

>>32603078
You must not be very attractive if she did that, I've talked to girls who are 16-17 and they never divulge their age because they don't want to scare me off, I know another guy who also was talking to some 16 year old girl and she would not cough up her age no matter what, he had to ask around beforehand.

>>32604048
Just because they avoided you in the beginning doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing, a lot of girls get nervous around attractive guys and have trouble talking to them, which throws a lot of guys off because they're led to believe that if you're attractive then women will literally throw themselves at you.

>>32604040
Language learning app. But I wasn't there flirting, I just want to innocently interact with women, and then maybe find the right one.
[spoiler]tandem[/spoiler]

>>32603483
Buy an add

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can any woman tell me how i show a woman i like her before approaching her? looking doesn't do it, many women don't even recognize that im attracted to them, not sure how to show it?

>>32604841
tricky
women assume that at any moment a man will try to rape them
so by extension you really have to let every other aspect of your life signal through you in the moment
ergo women want to be raped just not without their consent
tricky

>>32603078
>because no woman wants to be “friends” with a guy unless they want to fuck you.

I was "friends" with a woman and ghosted the moment I made a move on her. (though it was via text, not happening again as now I will make sure they know from the start I'm into them).

>>32604841
Literally just asking a woman for the time is enough for her to think you want to get with her

>>32602632
I have a deep voice. If I change the pitch of my voice, especially while whispering, it sounds like I'm more excited and just more playful in general. Women love that.

As someone with a sister, female friends are inevitable

>>32605134
yeah nah
you can be acquainted or familial with women but being friends is improper

I'm a CS major and I just had a class earlier today where a really hot and tight TA introduced herself. She said she was a recent PhD, so she was kinda new and nervous. You guys won't believe me but I'm on a dating app where you can see who views your profile, and I just came across the same exact Arabic name as my TA a few minutes ago (which I don't think would be too common), she's 25 (which would make sense), and she has gym pics, etc... What you would expect. I recorded everything. She has not yet responded to my message. Turns out that it might be her, but how do I proceed if it's her?

The woman in the pic, and the weird Arabic name reminded me exactly of her, which is why I bothered to check to begin with, and low and behold it's a match. Unfortunately the TA has no pic of herself yet, but boy am I excited for next meeting (which is next week).

does having a relationship in your 30s follow the same rules as when you're young?
like when you're young its assumed you date, kiss on the first, keep seeing eachother at various events and school, and then maybe make out or have sex on the 2nd or 3rd, or wait for marriage.

when you're 30s tho and you're both damaged goods, she's divorced or lonely for some reason, do you just mostly be attracted, have sex, maybe get to know eachother a bit but not really spend much time together unless you move in to the places you both totally have because you're supposedly successful in these scenarios?

>>32605275
Why bother with an app when you can talk to her IRL? Stick around after her lab or during office hours and just talk to her. Do some work while you chat so it doesn't seem like you just showed up to chat her up, but do chat her up. Way better success rate than apps.

>>32605289
Obviously I know what her office hours are, etc... But I still sent her a message regardless, it's just "Hey, how's it going?" An opener I have done with a bunch of other women and the ones who are interested always respond. Now, I sent it because if it's her I want to be on her mind, not because I want a response out of it.

>>32585629

The OP picrel has ridiculously lopsided tits. Is this something that should be brought up on a first date? Like maybe as a joke? Would this work?

Also, her nipples and areola are visible in the photo. Her areola is quite big. Is this a red flag and should it be joked about on the first date?

Thanks

I want to have sex, but I want to do it without overcoming any of my insecurities or anxieties relating to women and without paying and without lowering my standards. To be clear, I want to do it without changing my behavior in any way whatsoever. Your advice?

>>32605247
>familial
Eh fair point
My sister's closest friends are pretty much family to me

How come girls aren't filling out the surveys I email them after our first date?

How do I get over my fear of being labeled a creep?

>feel lonely because no gf
>get close to having gf
>hate it and fantasize about being alone again
>sabotage the relationship
What's wrong with me?

How do you do it when you're 27 and still live with your parents because housing prices are dogshit?

>>32605975
Go monk mode and spend 19 hours a day learning and developing high pay skills, no internet, no YouTube, no Netflix, no friends, no house chores, no errands

>>32605475
Women are completely and utterly defenseless to the dangers of the world and their only survival mechanism is gaining protection from males through sex. That's it. That's their entire leitmotif. They are completely weak creatures whose survival depends on how hot she is. Is this a creature that deserves your fear?

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How do I meet women during a college gap year? 22yo virgin. Work three days a week. Hard to talk to women. Especially in school settings surrounded by people watching and listening to us. Makes rejection more embarrassing and stop engaging at all with women when I get rejected. Explain to me like I’m frog

>>32606610
Forgot to add won’t check back till morning. Hope archive works or thread doesn’t delete

>>32606610
The best thing you can do is do nothing and wait until you have a 9-5 job 5 days a week where you barely have any human contact and are too tired on weekends to leave your room.

>>32598854
>can you tell me why the kids almost exclusively listen to rap?
Because everything else is extremely gay, made entirely for women (mainstream pop) or some kind of gentrified wankery that only appeals to faggy theatre kids. I hate niggers but would rather listen to rap than something as lame and dereverative as "King Gizzard."

>>32606213
I dont fear the woman
I fear the pigs, simps, or any other fag she'll summon to try to ruin my life

>>32607002
lel
They are literal faggot nigger tier

>>32607002
Then you're a bitch then. Imagine not being man enough to handle the dangers of life

>>32604324
I try self improvement but I can’t lose height I’m 7 foot tall :(

>>32605320

Change what you want.

>>32605320
And you're right. You deserve sex because you are special. You don't need to put in any effort because you're perfect just the way you are. If you're not getting sex is everyone's fault, like society and the patriarchy or the government or the joos

>>32607002
If you fear that, then you don't deserve sex.

I hope someone tells me who the fucking kike. On here is too.

>>32605275
Update: She enthusiastically responded bros! The occurrence of her name is about 1 in 133k in my state. There's a very high chance based on our encounter that she was already attracted then since I was very dominant among my friends and was the only one who got up to talk to her, leaving a lasting impression. wagmi.

>>32605320
Wait for the collapse of society so that things can go back to normal again.

How can I cold approach women? I think I'm ok looking, at least not threatening or intimidating. But my biggest issues are not knowing what to say and coming off as very weak and timid. I'm 31 but I look younger.

>>32608703
You don't.

I would like to have a wife, but I feel as though the things that attract women are things that either I don't care about or actively repulse me
I don't care for material wealth, I don't care for being dominant, I don't care for being adventurous or daring. I want a woman who admires me for my gentleness and open mindedness. Bear in mind, I am NOT a pussy, I've taken martial arts and have spared before and I think I could take most men in a fight if I needed to. But I hate violence and I don't even want to up the martial arts part of my background to a woman, at least not with the idea of impressing her. I also have an ok job that makes more than enough money than I need, but I live in a modest apartment. I don't even want her to know how much money I make until I know she isn't going to "like me more" for it. But I feel like deliberately hiding these aspects of myself, making myself show that I prioritize gentleness and modesty and don't care about force or ambition, filters out 99% of women.

>>32608709
I think I'll wait for better advice
You need not reply to me or try to convince me of anything, we have conflicting interests. If you are right, I'll find out for myself.

>>32608703
First, understand that women are inferior to men in every way and that their only value is their pussy. Without men they die. They need men to do everything because they're completely useless. They depend on how good it feels for a man to fuck them and without that They literally die. They need you.

>>32608730
First of all, why would they need me and not a guy who's better? I don't mean to sound insecure but just being realistic, I'm not exactly a 8 or 9/10
Second, even if this is true, it isn't necessarily how women think. Men have gaslit women into thinking they add more value than this. Personally my goal is finding a woman capable of being a good wife and mother, but this makes it an even more uphill struggle

>>32608729
Well, you didn't specify where you would cold approach them. If in a bar and a girl is checking you out, sure, go ahead. But random girls on the street is a recipe for failure.

>>32608744
Well you could have asked me to clarify, but it seems like you're more interested in discouraging me

>>32608743
>why would they need me and not a guy who's better?
They need the top man. However, getting him depends on how hot she is, so they will settle with the best they can find depending on their hotness level. And you can be that best they can find. And this is an advantage for you because it completely depends on what you do, meaning , how much money you can get.

>>32608757
I don't want a woman to settle with me for money, I want us to share mutual values and interests....

>>32608743
>Second, even if this is true, it isn't necessarily how women think.
That's your problem. You believe women think. They don't. They're emotional creatures, incapable of reasoning and at the mercy of their own emotions. They feel first and then make up something resembling a logical explanation for how they act. You're holding them to the same standards as for men.
> Men have gaslit women into thinking they add more value than this.
But they won't stop being women because it's in their nature. Evolution made them that way. Would you expect a lion from hunting? It's in their nature. Women nature doesn't change no matter what bullshit ideas they come up with.
> Personally my goal is finding a woman capable of being a good wife and mother, but this makes it an even more uphill struggle
Then you have to earn it Buddy. It depends on your skills

>>32608758
Money is the physical representation of value and power. Women are attracted to power because they're powerless in nature and they depend on a man's power to survive. Without it, they die. It doesn't matter that we live in a complex technological civilization. Their instincts are the same. And every woman on earth is attracted to power because they literally die without a man. First get the power then you can pick the best woman for the task you want to give her, which is to be the mother of your children

>>32608747
You are right, my bad. I follow this simple rule: Make sure you are in an environment where people are approachable and expect it.

>>32608786
Won't women show up to my door asking me to fuck them?

>>32608767
>It depends on your skills
What skills?
I will think deeply about the rest of what you've said. There's a lot to unpack. What I take from it is, my approach should be in some way that invokes a positive emotional response from them immediately, so that they can rationalize themselves into "liking" me after. But how do I do this exactly without being "creepy"? I hesitate to complement women on their looks early in a conversation
>>32608780
It just causes me to second-guess their loyalty if I know at the end of the day it isn't me, it's my money. What happens if we're involved in an emergency that drains our wealth? What happens if a more rich man pursues her? I want to find a good woman first, and give her the money later. I do have money, I just hesitate to flaunt it to attract women... I feel like I'd need an eagle eye to read which ones are worth marrying and which ones are playing the part
>>32608786
I can't think of any example of that other than a bar and I don't think women hanging out in bars would generally share my values or make great wife material

>>32608809
>What skills?
Your skills to survive, protect and provide. Translate it to the modern world (pro tip, it's money, but also, how good you're at leading other men)
>I will think deeply about the rest of what you've said. There's a lot to unpack. What I take from it is, my approach should be in some way that invokes a positive emotional response from them immediately, so that they can rationalize themselves into "liking" me after.
Yes, that's correct. And the most attractive feature for women is confidence because it shows competence. And when you no longer see a woman like a threat, but like an emotional and intellectual infant (which they are), you'll exude that confidence. Odd enough, nothing turns a woman on more than a man who doesn't take her seriously, because it means he is more focused on surviving than on fucking. And they need to be protected
> But how do I do this exactly without being "creepy"? I hesitate to complement women on their looks early in a conversation
Do it in a confident way, like you're talking to a mentally impaired individual.

>>32608846
Can you give me an example of what to say, or how you imagine a successful flirtatious conversation between a regular guy (not Chad) and an attractive woman would go please
I'm just having a hard time imagining this without seeing myself as weird or creepy

>>32608809
>It just causes me to second-guess their loyalty if I know at the end of the day it isn't me, it's my money.
Good. Life is unfair and we men are only worth in terms of how much resources we can obtain. It sucks but that's how evolution made us. See all these celeb dudes who lost all and got divorced because their wife just "wasn't attracted to them" anymore. We're they all shitty women? Yes, but their instinct is that. It only makes me see the ones who stay as more virtuous because they resisted their natural impulses.
> What happens if we're involved in an emergency that drains our wealth? What happens if a more rich man pursues her?
The chances of her dropping you increase. Sorry buddy. I didn't make the rules.
> I want to find a good woman first, and give her the money later.
Good approach. And honestly, now that I think about it, money is only the physical representation of power, but the most important trait is competency. Exuding the confidence, the calmness, the grit, the skills to survive. One wise anon said here once that in his experience, what turns women on more is a man who has these traits, because it makes them know that this man may not have resources now, but he has the potential to get them. And in my experience, women have been attracted to me because I was confident and collected, not necessarily because I was wearing expensive clothes.

>>32608809
> I do have money, I just hesitate to flaunt it to attract women... I feel like I'd need an eagle eye to read which ones are worth marrying and which ones are playing the part
The one worth marrying is the one who will let you lead, who will give you voluntarily total decision power over her life. So you give collected energy, always in control, and if she behaves like a brat, you punish her by ignoring her. If she correcta her behavior, she's maybe worthy, but it would be better if she doesn't throw fits. I know I'm asking too much.
However, no matter how well behaved and " loyal" she is, her instincts are always gone be telling her to look for the better option, for a stronger male. Sorry bro. I know it's hard. But it's better that we know this so we can better play our hand
>>32608855
What's most important is your energy. Be always in control, be always the one evaluating. She needs You more than you need her to survive. She's only a smooth plump ass with the emotional maturity of an 8 years old.

>>32608797
Just become a pop star. Easy fix.

>>32608809
>Bar
>At work
>Parks (Kinda meh)
>Coffee shops Less meh)
>Certain active activities

>>32608855
> Eye contact
> Slightly smug smile
> Approach her totally calmed like this approach isn't important at all. You're an adult male or the most dangerous species of the world and she's a dumb puppy that looks good.
> Hey I like your hair
> Thanks
> Yoo like you're a movie star. (Smug smile)
> Sorry Im waiting for someone
> We're now two. My buddy told me he'd be here half an hour ago
> Sorry I have a bf
> He lucked out. Don't worry, I'll let him know that you told me. You come here often?
> Can you live me alone
> No problem, (looking away like something is more interesting than the conversation) catch you later.
> Go to the bar and start non chalantly to the bartender about anything like "that was a great game!"
That's the worst that can happen. She will still respect you for being ballsy and showing you're in control of your emotions. It has happened to me many times and regulars respect me

>>32608917
*adult male OF the most dangerous species in the world
Fucking phone

>>32608891
>And honestly, now that I think about it, money is only the physical representation of power, but the most important trait is competency. Exuding the confidence, the calmness, the grit, the skills to survive. One wise anon said here once that in his experience, what turns women on more is a man who has these traits, because it makes them know that this man may not have resources now, but he has the potential to get them. And in my experience, women have been attracted to me because I was confident and collected, not necessarily because I was wearing expensive clothes.
So fake it until I make it basically
Then once I find a good woman, I can give her the material "proof"
>>32608897
Thanks, I'll have to think more about this. I just have this idea of approaching a woman, thinking I'm smooth and in control, and then she just rips me apart somehow and humiliates me. And I'm left thinking "I'm presentable, I'm healthy, I was confident, wtf am I doing wrong".
>>32608901
Ok
>>32608917
This seems kind of aggressive and douchey. Maybe it works for you but I'll probably need to find things more compatible with my personality.

>>32608930
>This seems kind of aggressive and douchey. Maybe it works for you but I'll probably need to find things more compatible with my personality
Men are supposed to be aggressive and douc hey. It shows strength. As long as you don't physically assault her, and you stop when she says no, you should be good. 75% of women will be attracted to this attitude (that's a goddamn high number), the rest will respect you (Wich will lead to attraction). Perhaps your personality is broken (pro tip it is because if it was fine, you would be attracting women without even trying, instead you're here asking for how to's)
>then she just rips me apart somehow and humiliates me. And I'm left thinking "I'm presentable, I'm healthy, I was confident, wtf am I doing wrong".
You're a grown ass man. You should be able to endure any bratty behavior. What is she going to do? Hurt you? With her powerful arms? And if she tries to humiliate you, then she's making you a favor because it means she's not well adjusted and not worthy of your attention. She's just being bratty, not dropping a nuclear bomb over your mom's house.

>>32608930
>I just have this idea of approaching a woman, thinking I'm smooth and in control, and then she just rips me apart somehow and humiliates me.
One time a girl literally told me "this cringe thing you're doing to pick me up is not working" and she looked away, angry. I said ok, catch you later.
30 minutes after that she was dragging me to the dance floor, being touchy and flirty and giving me the sex eyes. I ejaculated a fat nut on her Buttchecks that night

>>32608953
Well I won't be aggressive and douchey but I'll increase my confidence. I still ultimately want a woman who favors kindness and I'm willing to stay single if I can't find that, but I understand kindness isn't weakness and I'm being too weak. Thank you very much for the advice. I guess my fear and consistent failure has made me think that there's more at stake than there actually is
>>32608976
She sounds like she'd be a great fuck but not wife material

>>32608991
Good luck bro. The secret is get skills no matter what. And understand women's instincts and behavior. Save these posts and read the again and again. I did my best to synthesize my vast experience and posts other wise anons have shared over the years. You will feel the reward when you kiss the first woman that wants you to kiss her. It makes it feel all worthy. And when you ejaculated inside a wet smiley woman, you'll feel like superman. True story

>>32606928
>he hates King Gizzard
Shit taste

>>32609351
Here goy, listen to Indie Rock variation band #2,556,526

>>32602512
Found an insta that posts new incoming students into a certain local uni in my area, most of them are incoming freshman female students looking for rommates. All in their prime, many of them include instas and snapchats. I have already found a few hotties. Applying your method soon when I get the decent pfp and some followers (I will just join follow/unfollow groups etc). Any tips would be appreciated. Godspeed anon.

>>32585629
I recommend all anons here who are struggling and also have a crippling porn addiction to watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiIAdgZ_Upc

The key to success is indeed talking to women in abundance, but you do not want to do it while masturbating. You want to make sure you don't touch your dick no matter what, that's what gives you confidence and it's the only way to succeed with women (there are few exceptions, but most men only succeed if they don't masturbate).

The importance of nofap needs to be emphasized on these threads. Benefits include increased testosterone, increased confidence, increased wellbeing, increased motivation, increased energy, all of which are necessary to attract women. When you deplete yourself, you will never have the willpower to do anything about your awful situation. Quitting porn is hard. I am on day 5 and even while talking and flirting with women I still fantasize about them. A fantasy is not good. You need to put yourself above it. Setup dates, hookups (with the girls you can), etc...

>>32609606
Also if you any of you have anxiety/nervous issues, the root of the problem is also porn. You need to cut it off and initiate a positive feedback loop by talking to women in order to start being calm.

>>32609606
>>32609614
Also I've had to learn to tolerate the pain of blueballs. It's what happens when you're suddenly excited and can't quite ejaculate. You being to train your mind to be healthy because your body won't allow you to not get excited without consequences. There's a time and a place to be excited, and that's in person, in a close and private encounter with a woman who also finds you attractive.

>>32609657
>being
begin*

>>32586814
Yeah, no, the "not actively seeking out women" tactic doesn't work. I mean it's just pure luck. I spent most of mi life not seeking out women, with the mindset "i will keep working on myself, self improving, doing hobbies and interacting with people and eventually i'll meet a girl who will click right and that will be that." Well now i am a 24 year old kissless hugless virgin who has literally never had even so much as a flirtatious encounter with a woman. Literally zero experience with relationships or man-woman interactions. I can play the guitar really, good and have a shitton of skills/talents and awards from self improving so much. Turns out literally nobody gives a fuck at the end of the day.

>>32609683
>I can play the guitar really, good and have a shitton of skills/talents and awards from self improving so much. Turns out literally nobody gives a fuck at the end of the day.

The only self-improvement advice that works for men is going to gym consistently. You can't self improve by having additional skills, that's not what attracts women.

>>32589988
Jej, i love normalfag analysis. "this probably means this one thing, but it could also mean this completely opposite thing. it could also mean everything in between, probably. You are welcome for my astute analysis :)"

>>32609683
No man, you just have to keep IMPROOOOOOOOOOOVING. I’m telling you guys, anything is possible. Don’t ever get up, keep grinding, keep hustling, shoot for your dreams. You can do anything you want, I promise you. You just have to take that first step, take that hard step of actually doing something.

>>32609699
There's no gym for your face/height.

>>32609699
Ive been going to the gym since high school. I am fucking jacked my man. I bench 2.5pl8 for 5 sets of 5. I get complimented by guys almost weekly on my physique. In fact just yesterday a guy at uni grabbed my bicep and said "holy shit dude youre jacked". My BJJ coach told me last month that he wished his son was muscular and athletic like me. Ive never gotten a compliment from a woman though, only men.

>>32609737
I literally don't even know what else i could self improove. Ive done martial arts, language classes, cooking classes, dance classes, music, gym, running, hiking, reading classical literature and philosophy, DIY... Like wtf do i do, learn how to scuba dive? If i go hang gliding will i be worthy of human companionship and a woman will fall into my lap? Self improvement is fucking busywork for lonely, men so they don't have time to realise the game is rigged.

>>32609757
Women notice muscles, but they don't comment on it like men do.

>>32609759
Yeah no shit they notice i have fucking 17.4 inch arms at 14% bodyfat, the point is they don't care.

>>32609737
>There's no gym for your face/height.
My face used to be a blob. After the gym it became more refined.

>>32609757
You just gotta keep grinding and hustling that smegma male grindset, bro. You're not even in your prime until your 50s when all the college-aged Stacies will be all over you. Shave your head, grow a thicc beard, start a side hustle and drive a Buga'i.

>>32609785
That means you always had that face, you were just too fat. Going to the gym didn't do anything that putting the fork down and walking wouldn't have.

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>>32609757
From the way you say it, it sounds like perhaps women are intimidated by you. Maybe you are too big. I posted this once before so I'll post it again. Pic rel are the sorts of body you should have after 3 years if you do everything right in the gym, regardless of your starting point.

>>32609785
I was never fat though. I went from skinny skeleton to jacked. Face stayed the same.

>>32609794
My point is facial attractiveness can be improved if you go the gym. You can also work your neck and make it look thicker, very important.

>>32609798
Yeah but women don't like muscles i guess. Because fat neckbeard manlets get women and i'm khhv. Ofc i don't look like the roiders and IFBB pros you posted but i have big pecs, arms, back, shoulders and a six pack. And zero positive reactions from women, same as i got when i was a skeleton

>>32609806
Only if you are fat can you get face gains at the gym.

>>32609807
Nah, I have seen women be attracted to me, very strongly attracted, but because I never opened up to them, they still would rather talk to ugly men who have confidence around them. Women are also very insecure themselves, they will not seek what they want. And if you are very attractive, they will always assume you are a player and the shittests will be more brutal. When you interact with a woman, try to hit on her right away, get her to talk to you about her insecurities, don't wait or her mind will get the best of her.

Anyone have any advice on how to find a racist gf? White, tall, handsome, make good money, but all the girls that I've found on dating apps are either shitlibs or brown. Anyone found one for themselves out there?

>>32609831
Try the trailer parks

>>32609831
Asian immigrants. Churches are a good place too. You can also red pill a woman if she isn’t retarded

>>32604750
I would if I wrote it

Can a relationship survive when one person has 0 drive for the physical part? How can I tell myself that I have a good thing when it doesn't feel good?

I never want to make out or get busy with my girlfriend of 2 years. Like ever. I love her a lot, but the sexual desire just isn't really there. While she is cute... ish, my eye has never really been drawn to her.

But I also know she's the best I'm ever gonna get. And I do genuinely care for her and love her. And at my age, the fact that she isn't a single mom means it's like hitting the jackpot. Realistically if I don't stay with her I think I'd just stay single the rest of my life. The problem is that between the lack of drive and not really liking being at her place... I kind of feel like that's not the end of the world if I went to being single instead of staying.

But I also know I can only appreciate things in retrospect. So I'm afraid of breaking up with her and immediately realizing I've been an idiot.

I don't know what to do. I feel like I'm being an ingrate and stupid. But sometimes I get so sad and I feel like I just couldn't do this forever. But I'm not kidding when I say I love her. It's so confusing.

>>32610023
This is 100% on point. They may not be like, full 4chan racist but they get it. And they're not afraid to pull punches. Also they're cute when they do it which is nice.

>>32609683
>Well now i am a 24 year old kissless hugless virgin who has literally never had even so much as a flirtatious encounter with a woman. Literally zero experience
See a escort. They will help you with your insecurity

>>32608991
>I understand kindness isn't weakness and I'm being too weak.
Kidness IS a sign of weakness. It proofs you're so weak that you need to be nice and ask for things instead of taking action to get them. And another thing, kindness is not the same as civility. You must be civil meaning that you won't use violence and will respect the non aggression pact. Kindness is asking for pity.

>>32608722
Enjoy virginity

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>>32610101
Tell the fat bitch to lose weight

>>32608722
Yeah nah
you sound like a gay retard
no offence

>>32609526
>most of them are incoming freshman female students looking for rommates
Great. Go crazy.
>snapchats
I dont bother with snapchat. I find insta better for this.
>Applying your method soon when I get the decent pfp and some followers (I will just join follow/unfollow groups etc). Any tips would be appreciated. Godspeed anon

Although it could help, focus less on amassing followers and more on getting that pfp