Not wanna be an edgy / iamsoalpha wannabe, but how do someone get rid of their own "inner child" ? I'm objectively disciplined in my life (exercise, diet, train in mma, cold showers, improve at work during and outside work hours, got rid of vide games, anime, quitting addictions and the whole nine yard) and always seek to leave my comfort zone and yet I still feel like some sort of "weakness" lingers in my mind, I guess inner child is the most appropriate term for it.When I asked this schizo question around I only got wide eyes and answers from the style of : "hmm you shouldn't get rid of it make peace with it sweetie :)" or the classic go to therapy, the irony is which I did and asked the same question to the shrink only to be met with socratic questioning that kinda led no where, dunno if I should I've made the effort to seek others therapists considering the time and cost I'll have to invest since I feel like I can manage to answer the question on my own, or is it supposed to be an eternal battle ? Like weightlifting / managing your weight where you have to watch out every day for it ?At the end this inner child is in the way of my growth and life direction, and deleting would be the next step in my self improvement.TLDR : Disciplined, but still a sense of weakness / meekness lingers on, want to get rid of it to conform to societal & natural norms and to be able to strive more in life.
The voice your talking about is gmwhat many religions term as "god" its very rare that you even have it. You can get rid of it, just ignore it everytime your about to do something bad and it will eventually go away. Just remember it might not come back anymore and you might live the rest of your life in fear.
>>32593474>The voice your talking about is gmwhat many religions term as "god"Not true.>>32593410You can’t kill it. Go ahead and try though, it just goes from inner child to inner demon.
>>32593601Any explanation why ? Worst case can I supress it ?
>>32593666>666See you already summoning dark shit with your questioning nigga. Lol jk.>Any explanation why ?Because you can’t kill it anymore than you can destroy the foundation of your house without it collapsing. Foundation comes first, then home is built on top. Childhood came first, then (you) as an adult developed later. If you ever met people whose childhoods were busted up and broken to pieces, you’d see how that looks. Sociopathy, psychopathy, personality disordered etc. And they arent stoics or mature or manly. They tend to act like broken children. So if you wanna be less of a kid, you gotta allow it, and stop suppressing it. A tree can’t grow if you keep shoving it down back into the dirt every time it comes out the soil bro.
>>32593696I never thought of it as an innerchild. Just thought it was milennials who are weak willed or something,
>>32593709People call it lots of things. Inner child, subconscious, real-self, your ‘core’, whatever you wanna call it. It’s the (you) that came first and had layers of (you) fold over it as you developed, like an onion. (you) are the outer most layer rn. And you are complaining at the pit, the core of yourself, the first (you). The ‘inner child’. And you probably dislike it cuz you don’t like fear, shame, anxiety, loneliness etc. All the things that lil (you) dabbles in.Tough shit. You need those feelings otherwise you’d be dead. Kid you needed those to make sure it got attention from adults so it could be fed from hungrt and saved from danger. And you need to keep it as an adult so you can spot danger and identify where it arises so you know when to fight or flee. Also you need it so you can know how to be a father and identify needs of your own offspring.It functions as intended.
I've done extensive anysis on myself and here's my conclusion. we treat kids differently than we do each other, so when nobody treats a you like a kid anymore you get depressed. remind yourself that any manners are a form of masking to to fit in with people and you are and that's all you will ever be. we are evil, selfish, gluttonous pigs and work everyday to be more that what we are, but to do that is to go insane (become a woman) hahjahaa yea no don't make yourself a person what would you rather be doing right now
>>32593749>we treat kids differently than we do each otherTruth. In fact all things considered, children are the most oppressed demographic on the planet but we pretend it’s browns and gays lol. >hit your own child>it’s ‘discipline’>hit an adult>It’s ‘assault’
>>32593696Well to take your metaphor, if I wanted to build a new shinier house I have to destroy the old one first to do so, foundations included, and I didnt have a bad or terrible childhood so dunnoAnd to be fair sometimes the people you cited are "evil" just because its in their nature / they get a kick out of it, we as humans arent all sunshine & rainbows at the end of day And it doesnt make sense to allow the inner child since its the problem in the first place, it's (or I) literally the thing shoving my growth into the ground, its schizo tier at this point but I cant make you transmit the "its in the way and you'll have to discard it for you to evolve" feeling>>32593738Well at the end those emotions are just consequences of one's failing at something, I already agreed and I understand that I will feel those as long as I keep behaving the wrong way like someone would feel hunger when avoiding eating.I guess that our definitions are different, what you listed isnt what I consider inner child, but just primordial / animal instincts>>32593749Well at the end of the day evil and morality are human concept that were instaured to build and hold society together, sure its nice to not get stabbed over nothing but may I remind you who gets further in life, at the end of day we all fighting for ourselves and life is kinda a competition in most aspects, I just want to win, that's all.
>>32593929I'd also add that I dont judge "evilness" or the "bad" aspect of human nature in fact I think part of inner child problem come from a lack of applying this meaness and evilness
>>32593972>And to be fair sometimes the people you cited are "evil" just because its in their nature / they get a kick out of it, we as humans arent all sunshine & rainbows at the end of day.Nah, I didn’t use the word evil. I don’t find them evil either. I am saying they do not know good from evil at all, that’s what makes them do evil easily. They don’t know, truly. If you have a baby a gun, it would shoot you and laugh. Not because baby is evil, just because baby was bored and found the image of a man falling down to be funny. That’s all. Sociopathy/psychopathy is the same thing but in an adult body.>"its in the way and you'll have to discard it for you to evolve"You can’t do that is the point. You can try, certainly, this isn’t me moralising, im just saying it the same way as ‘you can’t breathe underwater’. Can’t be done. You’d need to erase your entire subconscious mind for that to work. And if you did that, you’d cease functioning. Either braindead or insanity or something.>I guess that our definitions are different, what you listed isnt what I consider inner child.The same thing I describe is your instinct. Its not just fear, shame, anxiety, loneliness. It’s also playfulness, euphoria, curiosity, and familiarity, affection. It has positives and negatives. >at the end of day we all fighting for ourselves and life is kinda a competition in most aspects, I just want to win, that's all.If the cost to win means cutting away at your own psyche, your soul, then you always lose. “For what doth it profit a man should he gain the entire world but forfeit his own soul” etc etc.When you let go of wanting to win, and the delusions surrounding that jungle law view, it means you can no longer lose, either. You just live, peacefully. Might be worth a try. Anyway you don’t gotta heed my suggestions. You can walk whatever path you want. I wish you strength no matter which homie.
>>32594025>Can’t be done. You’d need to erase your entire subconscious mind for that to work. And if you did that, you’d cease functioning.Not to refute your point, you cant obejctively or is it your opinion anon ? And bf I'm trying schizo self discipline anthics because the last "answer" would be ayahuesca or such likes, I still believe that own mind is more malleable that we'd like to thinkTo be fair I would be satisfied if I attain a neutral stance I dont mind losing the negative if I lose the positive its a fair exchange and I'm conscious and responsible for this choice>When you let go of wanting to win, and the delusions surrounding that jungle law view, it means you can no longer lose, either. You just live, peacefully. Might be worth a try.The irony is that being bored with peace and contentement is what is leading me to "the fight" in the first place, we have too whether we like it or not, true peace is only a luxury reserved to those who won over something and at the extent others, the jungle / law of the strongest hasnt dissappeared, the violence has just taken new formsAnyway your thoughts were interesting, maybe I'll change along the way maybe not
>>32594073>Not to refute your point, you cant objectively or is it your opinion?Objectively, 100%. I flew too close to the Sun myself, got into ego death, did psychedelics too, suffered psychosis for a straight year later. Madness is the reward for the effort to destroy bits of yourself. The smart thing to do is take the pieces of yourself you don’t like, accept them, but then find where in life they are meant for. So let’s say immaturity for example, and you don’t like immaturity, you think it makes you a loser, you wanna be big adult man and go win and succeed. You can do both. The Universe does not say you can’t. Nowhere is it written that you can’t. It just means there’s a time for maturity, and a time for immaturity. Be mature as you hunt and work. Be immature as you play and relax. Either with friends or your own children if the time calls for it. Sometimes you gotta swap to maturity and discipline kids or confront friends. You need both styles of mind is the point. Just be both rather than spite one for the other. Be stoic strong man and inner kid at the exact same time. Then you’ll become a whole man. >The irony is that being bored with peace and contentement is what is leading me to "the fight" in the first placeYeah thats normal enough. What you want though is aventure. Hardship, struggle, a mountain to climb. Every man wants this and its healthy. Because we know suffering promotes growth. Have you considered wilderness camping? Or hunting? Putting yourself in tough situations and making yourself survive them? I’d choose that over psychedelics any day.
>>32593410You're not supposed to kill it. You're trying way, WAY too hard here.
you’re already doing a good job just by being so responsible imo stay stoic, you kind of convinced yourself you have it but don’t let it blow your mind it’s not literal child inside, try improving your confidence a bit more, ur on the right path
>>32594105Well I fully understand and agree with what you say anon, but I dont know if its potential autism / OCD / stuborness but thé problem comes from the fact that these two parts cant live together so its either one or the other, hell my first réaction to the phrase "You gotta accept the bad parts of yourself" was "I'm not accepting filth / that", a bit harsh but at the end of day I loathe the behaviour and it has negative effects on my life, why let it free ? I'm not even asking to be happy / peace of mind (well technically killing the innerchild would be considered feeling peace in a sense lel) so looks like its going to be the eternal battle route >Hardship, struggle, a mountain to climb. Every man wants this and its healthy. Because we know suffering promotes growth. Have you considered wilderness camping? Or hunting? Putting yourself in tough situations and making yourself survive themI'm already hiking and camping as a hobby, hell I shouldnt say this but I even considered hunting (not with guns) just to be more accostumed to "cruelty" and taking a life a way, but you'd understand that its borderline psychopathy and sharing that IRL wouldnt do me any goodAnd I dont say this in a wanna be larp ubermensch w/e, just trying to answer mt own schizo questions
>>32594146Ironically I kinda dislike stoicism, I just follow natural way of things and look to autistically control emotions
>>32593410itt: anon thinks discarding his emotions and therefore his humanity will evolve him as a person(he doesn't know)
>>32594116why not at the end its like bourdain said but instead of laziness and / leisure its behaviour and emotions that have no function and serves no purpose instead
>>32593410>> Not wanna be edgy>> immediately proceeds to be edgy Your "inner child" isn't a real thing. It isn't in your way of development and you can't "kill it". You sound like a complete fucking edgelord loser. We are all dumber for having read your rambling, incoherent post.
>>32594208Idk who bourdain is, but I relate to the quote a lot. I wonder if he figured out the answer lol. Answer is an unfinished childhood. Answer is he grew up too quick, missed out on innocence and a happy childhood. Now his deep parts of him wants to go back and finish what was taken away from him. Meme as old as time. Thats what i realised anyway OP. My whole angst was, I was mad my dad treated other people’s kids better than me as a kid. I was mad watching other kids at school wear better clothes, have better lunches, and had parents who showed up looking put together and happy to take them to some place fun, where as I had to go back home myself, dressed in clothes a size smaller than me, to go home and watch my parents fight or lay around from being drunk. So adult life was ‘ahhh i grew up too quick, now i got a nagging immaturity to say fuck it all, i gotta kill my inner kid thingie’. Hell nah. That poor bastard already had enough bullshit for one lifetime. Same may be true for you. Cut your ‘inner kid’ some slack, man. Go hug the little bastard. Be an adult who takes care of it, in a way you never got. Maybe consider the way you treat your inner kid rn is just a recreation of how you got treated as a kid. So far, you want your inner kid to shut up, to be quiet, to not bother you or annoy you. Remind you of anything? Reminds me of how my dad was with me as a kid when all I wanted was to show him something I drew for him.
>>32594240>>32594208Nvm i looked him up>cause of death>suicideYeah no kidding. Looks like he never did reach the answer and he drowned. RIP. Hate to see it. How someone can go their whole life and never figure it out. Someone shoulda told him
>>32594193ah, that’s not bad too, you shouldn’t think too hard anyway i’m not a specialist so i hope you’ll be alright soon =)
>>32593410I do not have an inner child.What I did was I didn't fixate or obsess on stupid shit, and instead of looping or spiralling over some bullshit I just didn't.>yet I still feel like some sort of "weakness" lingers in my mindI have that too, it's called being lazy. Just ignore it, it can only control you if you let it.
