If you yake your girlfriend's virginity, then she rides the cock carousel after breaking up with her, then return to you and marry her, is it any different than if I wasn't her first?
of course retard, other men came inside her
It doesn't even matter neo liberal feminism has completely fucked secular women good luck
>>32593497Probably screwed up a dent of religious women as well.
>>32593416I will find out and tell you.
>>32593416No.
>>32593416>If you yake your girlfriend's virginity,Is Yaking fun?
>>32593416It’s basically the same. People just need some way to cope
Bruh I got no clue how this "she needs to be a virgin" shit works in the minds of incels
>>32593416>is it any different than if I wasn't her first?It's actually worse. You've just been subtle-cucked. Let me guess, 'it wasn't you, it was her'? She needed 'time' to find herself? Whatever excuse she came up with to break up, it was to cuck you.
>>32594621You’d rather the love of you live do the most intimate act with other people first? What’s so hard to comprehend
>>32593416dsfsd
>>32593416>breaking up with her, then return to youEven with this alone you fucked up
>>32594641How that shit matters one way or another.Let's assume she shared her most intimate moments with someone other than me.So?She'll just have intimate moments with me and not them from then on (until we break up), all is well.
>>32593416>>32594630This, basically. If after losing her V card to you she still grows distant and detached enough to lose attraction to you and start thinking about other men, it can definitely happen againI know one couple where the guy took the girl's v card, they broke up and dated other people, then cheated on their partners with each other and got back together, but just the one case. They were also both atheists that converted to Orthodoxy and had a bunch of kids, so there's a lot of external factors holding their marriage together>>32593424Also this. With a new girl you can at least pretend this wasn't the case, or you don't have to think about it. If you're going back to her after she fucked around with other men, you know she did it and there's no getting around it.
>>32595006That's cope
>>32595006If that’s the case why not let her have sex with other for a week? After all once the week is over it’s back to only intimacy between you two
>>32594621I think it comes in two flavors, the more innocent " i don't think she would value what is such a special moment for me as much as i do when it's just a Thursday night for her" and then the usual polfaggotry of "she has had a penis inside her therefore her womb is defiled" which made half sense when there weren't paternity test to ensure you weren't raising someone else's child but not so much now.As a virgin myself i feel the first one most, it's unrealistic to expect a virgin past 20 but whatever.
>>32595436If you're not trolling then this is a great example of why all the dating advice here is useless, it's given by retard virgin incel autists like this.
>>32593416I care a lot less about what a woman did before she met me vs. after.Even women I fell hard in love with, I don't think we could make it work if we tried to get back together years later for the sheer fact that they've been with other men since.My first GF wanted to get back with me, and I couldn't do it for this reason.I think it's just normal that as a man, you're not wired to trust them if they've slept with another guy since you.
>>32593416This sounds like a Trolly Problem
>>32596408Don't give up or leave the West
>>32593416Yes and no. She screwed around with others, sure, but she was a slut when she had sex with you outside of marriage. A slut was what you asked for, and if you married her, a slut would be what you got. So not really that different.
>>32596575I might be autistic but I got my virgin gf to match. Really I don’t see the big difference once you remove the sense of betrayal, either way she’s fucking someone else. Like if you saw a video of her sucking a guys dick would you really mind that much less just because it was a week before you dated as opposed to a week after? I understand it’s a breach of trust too but just remove that aspect of it and you’re left with the same problem
>>32596770lol was gonna post something like thisis this an incel philosophy seminar?
>>32593416If your girlfriend takes your virginity, then you ride the pussy carousel after breaking up with her, then you return to her and marry her, is it any different than if she wasn't your first?Anyway yes there's a difference, you've gained more experience and had more broad connections with people. It makes you a better partner and less susceptible to various forms of manipulation.
Fornication is immoral
>>32597286>I understand it’s a breach of trust too but just remove that aspect of it and you’re left with the same problemYou're an idiot if you think breach of trust is an "aspect." Same thing if you think watching a video of your GF sucking a dick a week ago is the same as your GF having been sexual with other guys in her past just by living her life. If you're not lying about having a GF (which let's face it 99% chance you are since you're on this website) you're going to drive her away I guarantee it.
>>32600406Not that guy, but you're the idiot here.He's correctly identified two (possibly three) separate issues: the desire for exclusivity over time (versus serial "monogamy", aka exclusivity only for the duration of a relationship), and the desire for integrity/honesty. He's also identified--and you confirmed--that the breach of trust within a particular relationship is the whole issue for you.You have repeatedly shown yourself incapable of understanding that other people have additional concerns, or even understanding that additional concerns are possible without being some kind of unwashed ranting incel.Jonathan Haidt's research on moral foundations explains this perfectly. To sum it up, liberals and libertarians (you're undoubtedly one of them) have a harder time understanding conservative views than vice-versa, even though all ideologies have distortion when trying to grasp other viewpoints. That's because conservatives tend to have a broader field of moral concern compared to either liberals (who prioritize care, fairness, and freedom) or libertarians (who only care about personal liberty). They share the motivations of those groups--so they can more easily empathize--but they also have additional concerns. Whereas those groups literally can't conceive of conservative motivations.
>>32600799I love how you pretend to care about all this shit to cover the real answer I and everyone else knows, which is you're too insecure to handle the idea that a woman wanted another man besides you at some point.
>>32600799>>32600950Also> liberals and libertarians (you're undoubtedly one of them)I'm more conservative than you, terminally-online tradlarper. I went to church last Sunday, and own and regularly read a Bible. You do not. I don't even vote because Trump is too liberal and gives too much help to niggers and kikes. I'm just also an adult who has had adult experiences and a fully-developed brain and understands people have lives they live before they meet me. You LARP as a conservative online instead of living the life, because eve though you're an atheist with modern sensibilities in every area of your life besides sexuality and have no actual reason to practice this lifestyle, it soothes your insecurities and gives you a false sense of superiority.
>>32600950>which is you're too insecureInsecurity =/= disgust. People like you disgust me. The idea of being in a non-exclusive relationship disgusts me. And if a woman gave herself to someone beneath me in every conceivable way, that'd be worse, not better, because it shows just how little she values herself, in addition to the basic disconnect of values.I'm not afraid of "losing" a woman who already committed to another man, let alone a woman who never shared my values to begin with. >>32600981>I'm more conservative than youYet you spend hours of your time insulting anyone who expects chastity and doggedly defending a post-sexual revolution view of relationships. I think you're a libertine. Makes sense that you're American, given what "conservative" means--or doesn't--in the US.I didn't claim to be whatever kind of 'tradlarper' you had in mind. I made a very narrow point about a particular value towards relationships, that of lifelong monogamy, and how you refuse to even recognize that someone could have different priorities. Nothing whatsoever about my own beliefs. So blow the bible-thumping horseshit out your ass, you hypocritical mongoloid. You want to talk about a false sense of superiority? Try the self-righteous cretin who counts his lack of respect for others and lack of concern for moral integrity as the highest badge of honor, who probably spends more time attacking "incels" on fucking 4chan than at the Sunday service he jerks himself off over. You're as Christian as John XII, and antinomian vermin like you are far more damaging to the church and morality than any Stalin or Mao could hope to be.
