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I work with a guy who, to put it simply, is a bad boy. He's always stirring shit up and getting into arguments. People fear him and he is generally unliked. However him and I get along and he likes me but we are polar opposites. I'm a nice guy. He's in his late 40s.

Anyways, while I am physically attractive, I have very little sexual appeal. This guy though makes all the girls wet. They talk about him as a bad guy but they all seem to want to fuck him. He tells me and shows me his escapades.

Recently this new girl, only 19 and from a foreign Asian country and a virgin (she told him), has started showering him with affection. I tried talking to her casually and she grimaced. I didn't even look at her sexually because she seems so innocent but this guy has put her under a spell.

How can I learn from this guy? While he has his flaws he is authentic and obviously he doesn't take anyone's shit and girls like that. I haven't been laid in 5 years and I feel like I'm too harmless.
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>>32595409
Ask him. Phrase it like “man, you get all the girls, how’d you do it?”
Play it like a joke so it’s less awkward
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>>32595422
I've commented on it before. But I've never talked about my lack of success with him so as to not lose his respect. It's weird because I don't want to emulate him and be like him but there is no denying girls like him. His insanity and all. He has a warm side to him too.
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Sup bitch im that guy.

I get in her mind cuz I'm out of mine.
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>>32595441
You sure he respects you, or just chills with you cuz he doesn’t have a choice? Can’t imagine he has many friends if he’s a dick to everyone. Just pop the question, no harm in that. If you don’t take that risk you’ll just stay where you are.
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>>32595409
It’s because bad guys aren’t actually bad guys, same as how ‘nice guys’ aren’t really nice guys. Women aren’t looking at this as a matter of bad or nice, they’re seeing it as honest vs. dishonest.

The ‘bad boy’ is the honest guy. The ‘nice guy’ is the dishonest guy. That’s what’s going on there. The bad boy is a guy who speaks true to all of his feelings, all of them, the good, the bad, the ugly. He is disagreeable at face value. And people enjoy this because nobody enjoys people who hides their disagreeableness. No one wants someone with a dagger kept behind their back. Bad boys are therefore more trustworthy, and women know what they’re dealing with and what to expect. There’s a certain security in that. With nice guys, it’s Pandora’s box. 50/50 coin toss it’s a harmless social introvert, or, a fuckin’ psycho.
Women don’t want to flip that coin if they can help it.

Also it isn’t all success and triumphs for the ‘bad boy’ either. Remember the inverted logic of how bad boy is honest/nice guy potentially dishonest.
The ‘good girl’ has a high chance of being a psycho, but with tits. A girl who thinks she’s a princess, come to ‘fix’ or ‘save’ the bad boy, but really she is rotten to the core and will mentally torture the poor bastard to feed her ego.

Who you need to learn from OP, is yourself. That’s how you be authentic, by being (you) without apology.
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>>32595457
He told me he respects me. I believe he does. I'm a very hard worker and I teach him things since I have more experience. His actions show he does. Maybe I will spill the beans. For all his faults I don't think he's a big mouth who would reveal our conversations.
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>>32595472
Honestly man, just have a casual chat, say you’ve been having trouble pulling lately, he’s prolly been there before
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>>32595469
"The ‘bad boy’ is the honest guy. The ‘nice guy’ is the dishonest guy."

Thanks. I think I need to just tone it down and as you said be more authentic. I don't need to try to make everyone happy at my own expense. I do feel like I'm not authentic at times.
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>>32595563
Happens to us all mate. Especially if we dealing with insecurities or baggage or hangups. But yeah, nice guys aren’t nice. That’s okay cuz nobody is nice 24/7. That just makes you human. So it’s okay to be disagreeable more. Takes practice. Next time someone asks how you’re feeling, and you know you feel like shit, just say “yeah man, I feel like a hobo’s back pocket, feel like shit.” or when someone is annoying you, just tell em “can’t deal with you, not right now.”
There’s a neat and tidy balance between disagreeable and abusive you gotta hit, but you eventually get there bro.
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>>32595448
bad boyz for life
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>>32595409
This anon has part of the answer >>32595469 - it's partly honesty. It's also social dominance, confidence and self-assertiveness. Women would pick an kind, honest Chad over a narcissistic, hurtful, petty, passive-aggressive weasel any day of the week.

It's just that a lot of the time "bad" and "dominant" come together.
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>>32595409
kill him and eat his heart, you will gain his abilities through acquirement of his soul.
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>>32595791
This is absolutely the correct answer
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The only universal truth about women, and I mean all women, is that they love Bee Dubya Cee. All White women are bisexual, but that typology does not extend to colored women.
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>>32595448
Nah, I dont think you'd be here on this site if you were that guy. And if you were truly out your mind you wouldn't be here wondering things like us, thinking things through instead of acting, like us. You'd be out drinking and plowing and going to jail but getting bailed out by one of your buds you made through your escapades or your rich family
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He is tall and good-looking, plain and simple. There's no "bad boy" archetype, it's just that when you're tall and good-looking, you're perceived positively by others and can't get away with more shit. See: Richard Ramirez, Jeremy Meeks etc.

People really make things harder than they have to be.
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>>32595563
>I think I need to just tone it down and as you said be more authentic.
No, you need to be more confident, assertive and socially dominant. That's what women are truly into. It's just that a lot of the time these traits come alongside with being an asshole.

Ask yourself, would a women rather date a kind, honest, protective alpha male or a snarky passive aggressive backstabbing weasel? It's not about being bad, it's about being Chad.
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hes more attractive its that simple. of you acted like him you would be fired
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>>32595448
>I get in her mind cuz I'm out of mine.
MOMS GONNA FREAK!!!
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>>32595409
Being insecure is generally more unattractive than lacking courtesy. If you're insecure, you don't trust yourself, and that's what people are picking up on as a limbic response. If you, the most knowledgeable person about yourself, don't trust you, why should anyone else? We have a biological imperative to stay away from untrustworthy people.
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>>32599373
good point. more women tolerate evil in a man more than they tolerate weakness. not saying he's evil but it is what it is. insecutiy is an attraction killer. sure a bit of shyness at first might be complimentary but if your auro is weak and insecure in general you're done for
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>>32595469
You watch too many movies
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>>32595409
Its quantity over quality. Ofc a shithole dweller is gonna like that. Quality girls want a guy like you. Those girls feel like they'd have to work hard and do all kinda stuff to get and keep you. Get a fuckin clue
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>>32600520
kek, that's a new cope I haven't seen.



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