3 young 27 year old boys robbed a liquor store and the mentally retarded 35 year old behind the counter pulled his gun and got smoked.I am the DA. Should all 3 kids get a life sentence? Would you have shot the guy if he pulled his gun, and you were robbing him?
>>32596147>Should all 3 kids get a life sentence? Yes>Would you have shot the guy if he pulled his gun, and you were robbing him?I'm not black so I wouldn't be even robbing anyone
>>32596155What is the defense questions if they should be in prison at all? It was self-defense.
>>32596159>armed robbery is self-defence
>>32596159You can't claim self defense when you engage in the armed robbery of a liquor store, retard.
>>32596168>>32596171they had no choice, though. I just think it's wrong that 3 lives are being traded for one cashier with an incredibly bright future.
>>32596182The choice was to not rob the store or die.I would rather one innocent tard live.
>>32596192someone has to play devil's advocate and I'm willing to fill that role. You're talking about 3 entire people here, anon. Their entire lives led to this.Shouldn't only the one who pulled the trigger go to jail?
>>32596203Three entire people made the conscious decision to commit a very serious crime. You might decide that the triggerman deserves the worst punishment based on the circumstances, but it's possible (I would argue probable) his associates knew he was armed and they discussed the use of force beforehand. They're accessories to one of the worst crimes it's possible to commit. The cashier didn't instigate this sequence of events, and acted lawfully in response to a crime against property. They chose to shoot him, they forfeit their freedom. It's pretty open and shut anon.
>>32596226It's wrong to take away the other two's lives for something they probably didn't consider possible before rolling up to the store.Do you really think they'd reoffend?
>>32596182>>32596203Are you going to wait until they'll kill 2+ more, epic mathematician? Bright career criminal culture alright lil broActually do whatever you want, I hope you're not baiting and will accelerate this shitty world into the Hell+ it'll eventually become anyway. Can't wait to give up and wank to rationalized misery all around me
>>32596245You're assuming as much as I am but you're also creating a big loophole for people to avoid culpability for murder. Probably would reoffend if you were the DA - start robbing banks and using self defense on the SWAT team coming in. I'm going to bed anon, please work on your bait hypotheticals so we can have more fun next time.
>>32596253Even if they killed 3 more mathematicians my position would be justified.>>32596260I will do better in the future, okay?
>>32596266>sealioning makes things true!Right until you meet a bright kid with a good future and a gun, y'know?
>>32596273gosh, I hope so.
>>32596282Of course it's a suicidal hysteria victim that wants his hysteria become appropriate by turning the world to hysteria-worthy shit even if hypothetically.
>>32596290I just think it would be nice to meet a kid with a bright future. I don't want to die when there's so much left to do.Maybe I can be the person who turns their life around!
>>32596299>I'm special I can do the pro therapist job for free and I'll be favoured for no reason Read the Problem of the Puer Aeternus, and Addiction to Perfection, and Facing the Dragon
I wouldn't rob a retard in a liquor store because I'm not a piece of shit. All three should get death.
>>32596305Sounds gay. I am going to wreck you with my huge wide cock.>>32596311n-no anon they're sympathetic victims of circumstance.
>>32596159It was self defense but they were already committing an illegal action, generally we'd agree that you can defend your property even violently to a lethal extent if necessary, so the robbers knowingly committed an action that could warrant a lethal retaliation, so bringing a gun to commit the robbery was knowing that a gun could get pulled, not in a self defense way
>>32596325In the same vein, shouldn't the cashier acknowledge that they are putting their life on the line for a few bucks? They're basically committing suicide (a victimless crime).
>>32596316*shoots your "manhood" with a chain shot from a sawn off, making a warm bleeding mess not just out of your pelvis but out of your thighs and hips as well*Whoopsie looks like I'm the brightest one here UwU>>32596333You're repeatedly treating the robbers like subhumans with no agency or willpower or rational thought, and the cashier as someone who's obligated to be more rational and omnipotent than God himself. Read the fucking books kid
>>32596338did you just threaten a public official?>>32596338>kidheh, acutally u have no idea ewhat you've stepped into. The magic calls to me and I'm extremely powerful so how about you put up or shut up bitch
>>32596355More like pubic of swell Where you were catching flies, I had been recruiting spiders
>>32596147They are 100% accessory to murder, but whether they knew the other guy had a gun or not would affect the sentencing. If they knew he was packing, that means they knew someone was likely to get shot and killed.I wouldn't give them life, but 20 years at least.
>>32596370You can't give them the same leniency you would a street fight. These are entirely different circumstances and the very fact of it being armed robbery demonstrates the most severe form of mens rea. There is not really a mitigating factor in this case, even if the store clerk drew first, which seems very unlikely, more likely they already had the gun out during the robbery and the clerk foolishly attempted to draw down on them and got murdered. The clerk making a stupid mistake does not make this self defense. The clerk had no guarantee of his life if he took no action. This is murder cut and dry.
>>32596384>The clerk making a stupid mistake does not make this self defense.Agreed. Finally, progress. I guess I'll meet everyone in the middle because half agree it's murder. I'm charging them with involuntary manslaughter.
>>32596392nice bait
>>32596203>Their entire lives led to this.Murder. Their entire lives led to murder.>Shouldn't only the one who pulled the trigger go to jail?No. The other two committed felony murder, and they get life as well as a minimum. This is a well established point of common law.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_and_the_death_penalty_in_the_United_StatesNot just talking out of my ass here, a cousin of mine recently got out of Angola prison after serving a 20 year sentence for felony murder. The guy that pulled the trigger got the electric chair. Angola is the prison from the movie "The Green Mile", btw. No idea if the guards played games with his sponges when he was executed.
>>32596245>It's wrong to take away the other two's lives for something they probably didn't consider possible before rolling up to the store.No it isn't. They made the decision to rob the store, they were the ones robbing the store, collectively they are all guilty of creating the chain of events that led to the clerk's death, and they collectively bear responsibility for it.>Do you really think they'd reoffend?It doesn't matter. They committed a serious crime, they must pay the punishment. They certainly won't be reoffending when they're serving their term in prison, so whatever point you thought you were making is moot.
>>32596147A cuntry that gives deadly weapons to its citizens with minimal background checks, and performs executions as one of the few developed cunts in the world. The way I see it, the American justice system has no business moralfagging other people's lives. Give them the minimum sentence and tell them to get modified AR-15s next time they wanna shoot people
>>32596147Kill all wagies, they deserve to die for risking their life for their jewish masters. Good riddance. Set them free so they can smoke more goyim nigger cattle.
>>32596147Do your own homework for your Ethics class.