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Like if someone has a gun pointed at you and you try to slap it out of their hand
Is that suicide?
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>>32601200
If you know the technique or are strong enough to do that no, you'll be alright. It's not really suicide you at least tried to escape. It's just you being dead from a successful attack is all. Unless you plan on takin on more people than you can handle.
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>>32601221
Hmm, okay. Aren’t you sort of taking a situation that is easily survivable and turning it into a life or death one?
Death by your own actions at the hand of another.
If you die isn’t it your fault, and isn’t that suicide?
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>>32601200
I think getting the police called on you and you pretending to have a weapon concealed and trying to get it out of your pocket in the US counts like a suicide knowing how they are over there
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>>32601238
No, not necessarily. Unless you hired him to aim a gun at your head or you spit in their face and understand they were stronger.
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>>32601200
it obviously depends on the intention, retard.
If someone slaps a gun away from them then their intention is probably not to die, in most cases. But maybe in some cases that's a weird act of suicide.
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>>32601247
Hmm okay so we’ve established that their are situations where basically you are forcing other people to kill you and thats “suicide by” them like suicide by cop.
Are there other people or situations that could extend to?
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>>32601247
It's literally called suicide by police and is a thing and has been a trope in tv shows.
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>>32601200
Depends on the intention. Slapping a pointed gun away from you can either be suicide or a very stupid gamble. I would just empty my pockets
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>>32601267
What would that even be called if you got shot and died?
Suicide by robber? Suicide by gangster?
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>>32601256
You could try being naked with an apple in your mouth and send the pic to a cannibal if you can find one.
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>>32601270
You know, when you force me to put a name to it I take it back.
I have to call it a murder. An easily preventable murder, but still a murder.
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>>32601400
No it’s nit murder. It’s difficult but doing the right thing requires absolving all parties of guilt except the suicidal person.
Basically, if suicide by cop is possible because of the social contract that exists between you and the police that reuires you to follow what they say we can extend that to other social contracts.
So if you’re being robbed, and you break the social contract by pulling a gun to protect yourself it’s the same as pulling a gun on the col.
Ergo, if you get kill doing that you are committing suicide.
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>>32601424
It’s not a reasonable comparison because during a robbery the robber initiates and in suicide by cop, the victim initiates. That’s what makes a suicide by cop a suicide
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>>32601449
No it’s sucide because you have to do what the orher pwrson says, and you know that. Even if you succeed and kill the other person the outcome is the same.
Have you ever seen the articles for people killed by suicide during a robbery? There’s even more sympathy for them than people who sucide by cop.
I think this means that sucide by gangsta is actually even more suicide than sucide by cop
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>>32601468
>you have to do what the orher pwrson says
The person who created a situation where “you have to do with the other person says” would then be responsible. Making it a murder.

> There’s even more sympathy for them than people who suicide by cop.
So? Sympathy or a lack of it doesnt make something suicide
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>>32601200
Get some friends cunt
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>>32601424
robbers are antisocial by definition so stfu
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fucking retarded ass midwit pilpul
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>>32601256
it's a slang term you absolute autistic failure
mix slang and formality and you get ice cream with canned tuna in it. I bet that's what you eat daily
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>>32601238
>Hmm, okay. Aren’t you sort of taking a situation that is easily survivable and turning it into a life or death one?
no. having a loaded weapon pointed at you is never an easily survivable situation. every second it is trained on you, even in jest, your chances get worse
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>>32601633
Wtf why are you guys being mean to me? I just think we should classify some things as suicide if they basically are
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>>32602603
I'm a single person and I say that you should stop because you suck
>basically
All opinions discarded
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>>32603674
no, suck my cock.
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>>32603684
*sucks it will a full power vacuum cleaner with razor blades on its tip* Whoopsie UwU
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>>32603692
*covers ur mouth*
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>>32603698
>you only flail your arms on the ground as death of blood loss comes*
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>>32603699
if we fought and I was fit (im not) i would kill you
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>>32603703
U can't tell the difference between formal and casual. Even if you were Mike Tyson tier you'd just hurt yourself
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>>32604504
you're being too esoteric. I don't get it.
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>>32601200
you wouldn't be treated as a suicidal person, people make shit decisions under pressure all the time. But it is a terrible decision
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>>32605055
Thanks, anon!



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