I finished hs fat and ugly, so after hs I tried to change it, 3 years later and I lost almost all the access weight (am 78 kg while being 181 cm) got some muscles, got a better haircut, started grooming better and using deodorant and cologne daily, got good clothes, started going out more, got better at convos and overall being confidentAnd I’m still a virgin, and yeah some girls like me, but I don’t like them, I’m not attracted to them and those that I do like will never go for a guy like me, cuz at the end of the day my looks are below average, so how do I give up, how do I stop wanting a relationship dating or sex how do I stopandgiveup
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>>32604626If all that is true, you have already laid a solid base for your well being and social life. Depending on where you live, women may not approach as often, and it will be up to you to approach them. Just relax and have fun, go talk to those you like, even if you think you are not enough. That is a serious self esteem issue. You've done so much for yourself, you take care of yourself, you are a very good option for lots of women. Fix your shitty self esteem either through therapy or whatever, and go live life. You laid down the basic to be a winner, don't choose to be a loser.
im somewhat in a similiar position, 3rd year college as well, if there is a thing i learned is when im in a good place mentally i tend to well with women but the hard part is keeping a good morale in the long run.if u ask me, someone with VOLITION as his thread picture shouldnt give up,u got this.
>>32604626im tall i have visible abs and objectively in shapei couldn't possibly be further away from a relationship. The real redpill is looks don't matter that much but social skills and confidence do. It is far easier to get a good physique than to talk to women informally without being terrified.
>>32604873I don’t think it’s about self asteem, woman that I like are just way beyond my skope, it’s not that I’m only into super models but I only like attractive chicks and they ain’t into me, I only attract the decent or the “if she wasn’t chubby she’d be nice” girls and I really couldn’t get it up for them even if I tried, the girls that I like make me obsess about them, it’s just frustrating to see them, talk to them and never be able to date them, I’d rather just give up on it and put it out of my mind
>>32604944I have volition only when it comes to gym, or passion projects or women I fall In love with, but they never reciprocate, never, so at some point you gotta realise that those bad investments of time and energy are kinda pointless, I just want to stop investing but still have a decent life
>>32604973I don’t mind talking to women, even if I’m into them I usually make them laugh without really overthinking, not to mention what I do with the chicks I don’t find appealing, but being funny and being desirable aren’t the same thing, it’s not that looks are everything but your looks and personality should both be decent, I can’t really control my face shape and features so no matter how “funny” I am I’ll never get them
>>32604994Have you even tried?
>>32605013Somehow i doubt you are actually as ugly as you describe. I have seen short and ugly people have girlfriends i don't even dare look at. How did they get them? Probably by being confident and attempting it in the first place. Women almost never initiate, unless you are hyperchad top 1%, but that doesn't mean you can't initiate and succeed.
>>32605080Yep, never worked, also at some point you just see it, it’s like the look on that girl’s face isn’t the same look she’s giving to this other good looking dude, her eyes are on you but you might as well be invisible
>>32605081Yes there are stories about girls being with ugly guys, I see those kinda couples and vise versa, but the caveat is usually the hot one in the relationship has a shitty personality, ppl are usually attracted to ppl of equal value, and from friends assessing me without sugarcoating anything? Best I got was “yeah you’re a 5” so how the fuck a 5 gonna pull an 8 that’s actually fun to talk to It’s just easier to give up then wallow in false hope that is reliant on such a small chance it’s worse then the average mister beast giveaway
>>32605099All those times you judge a look and went away, it does not count as trying.
>>32605113Then maybe you have to compromise on the looks part and go for a 5 yourself. If youget a good personality match you can improve her looks by exercising together. I find that non fat women that don't have any serious deformities will always be attractive. Idk really i am an incel but it makes sense to me.
>>32605152Yeah those times don’t count they happen a bunch but I also get rejected
>>32605192Can’t compromise, and I don’t feel like having to improve someone just so I’d like them, what I want is to be an incel but not be bitter about it, like “oh well it’ll never happen for me and that’s ok” how do I do that
