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but at the same time i'm not meant to be chasing them. I have to somehow approach them without any expecation they will reciprocate because appaerently they can sense i'm interested in them which for some reason is a turn off? Why is dating so fucked up in the year of our lord 2025?
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>>32605371
Just be good looking and genuinely friendly. No PUA gimmicky bullshit.
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>>32605371
Someone gave you shit advice.
You're meant to be horny, not needy.
That is: you're meant to pursue women to take advantage of opportunities, but if opportunity doesn't present itself then you aren't bothered by that.
It's being bothered by her lack of interest that will generate fear and insecurity, and that is the weakness that will deter interest.
But, if you simply want to fuck her, and you take initiative, that's attractive (assuming she's attracted to you somewhat). So long as your response to her lack of energy is "K whatev", being horny increases desirability.
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>>32605371
Why are zoomers so incapable of understanding basic interpersonal dynamics?
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>>32605371
1. Its always been this way
2. If you're gonna frame it and interpret is as fucked up and screwy as possible, of course you're gonna feel discouraged.

If you like a person there's a chance they like you. Its never guaranteed. Talk to them and find out. If no dice move on. We don't have to turn it into a fucking Saw movie
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>>32605514
How would I learn if I just kept getting ostracized until my 20s? "Can you go away dude" leaves you with books or the screen. Not many options
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>>32605514
Because the internet and tik tok way overcomplicated it for them and turned them into clinical overthinkers.
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>>32605525
Read Day Bang by Roosh. Everyone thinks it's a book about game, but it is really just about teaching social skills to autists like you.
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>>32605525
Find people who don't want you to go away. Can't hold your hand here bud. But the world isn't against you.
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>>32605371

1. You need to understand that getting a womans attention and interest in you has remained unchanged since the existence of modern humans (so at least 300K years) and likely predate the evolution of our species.

2. Disregard everything a woman has ever told you about how to get a womans attention, or what not to do. This goes double if it was on social media. Women don't know what they want, let alone how to date other women. Not even lesbians know how to date women as a man becsuse the rules and approach are different.

3. There is a difference between liking how someone looks, and EXPECTING they will feel the same about you. Hope is not expectation. You should never place your expectations on strangers.

4. All societies have rules. In large population centres with lots of strangers around we have rules around when it is and is not appropriate to approach others. Such rules are gender neutral. We have designated places where it is socially acceptable to cold approach strangers. Everywhere else you shouldn't do it.

5. Yes, as a man it is to you to lead. Gender roles are NOT a social construct regardless of what the socialists want to claim. They are biological. Hardwired. Men, actual men, naturally do this behaviour and do not resent it. Heck, most actual men don't even actively think about it.

6. Only little boys and women want to he approached. Women don't find either attractive. That's the thing that creates incels, a refusal to grow up or a mother who wraps herself around her son and makes him like her instead of like a man.

None of this stuff is "fucked". Stop being a self obsessed little bitch, it's embarrassing
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>>32605532
Clinical over thinkers is on point.
>So if I want to eat a sandwich, I gotta get the bread, lay it out, and put the meat on the bread. But what if I want turkey and I only have ham? And then there's the tomato. I have to slice it myself, and my knives are dull and I don't have a knife sharpener. Then when I slice them badly I get tomato juice all over my counter. Because I forgot about the cutting board because I was too worried about having to use ham instead of turkey. Ham is ok, but I REALLY want turkey. I can't stand mustard, but the sandwich will be too dry if I don't use mustard. What do I do??? Oh bother, worry is me.
Just make the damn sandwich for fucks sake it's not that complicated.
Literally just stop fucking thinking about it and just make the damn sandwich.
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>>32605371
you're supposed to be liked anon, if you're too ugly or most probably too have too much of an unlikeable personality then everything is a chase or harassment or annoyance
if girls like you you're not chasing your playing games with her, you're not harassing you're just being proactive or assertive, you're not annoying just a bit intense.
so try to become a bit more likeable
you sound like the kind of dude who gets annoyed at the minimum handicap life gives you, I have a friend in wheelchair who is dating.
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>>32606938
doesnt really work if numerous women are never interested due to hoeflation
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>>32607027
Imagine responding to a long, detailed, well thought out post like that (which wasn't mine by the way) with an incel cope about a non-existent thing like "hurr durr but muh hoeflation". Do you think this is clever?
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>>32607027

Please see points one and two. There is no such thing as "hoeflation" you impertinent child. Women just don't want you because of point six. Grow up.
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>>32607254
Life as a sub 8 male etc
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>>32607327
Life as a fat woman. Or any other deformity. In fact if you are not perfect it's probably unlikely life is not a scam.
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>>32607327
Except there's an awful lot of sub 8 males with girlfriends out there. Anyone who uses incel meme terms like "hoeflation" unironically is probably more like a sub 3.
Yes, I have absolutely zero doubt that women want better than what you have to offer. But how is that their fault and not yours for offering so little to begin with?
And how about you and YOUR expectations? If you yourself are holding out for girls that look like the one in the OP, yeah...that ain't happening bruh.
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>>32605371
You're allowed to be interested in women and express that interest. You just have to be tactful about it, and treat them like people - rather than 'goals', if you get what I mean?
If you don't get what I mean, you're a lost cause.
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>>32607352
I already have a girl like that 'bruh'
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>>32607327

1. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean

2. I don't care what that's supposed to mean.

3. You are only continuing to demonstrate point six. Pay attention.

>>32607352

Picrel is average at best.

>>32607397

That's sad. I feel bad for you.
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>>32605371
You are allowed to approach women
You are allowed to be interested in women
You are allowed to make your interest in women known

But if you are coming across as desperate, or even worse disrespectful, then most (not all) women will be repulsed by you. The ones that aren't, probably want to take advantage of you. Outside of severe deformity and/or severe mental illness, this is the incel's problem.
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>>32607416
>Picrel is average at best.
Then why can't you get it?
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>>32607397
So you have a gf, a good looking gf at that, and yet here you are incelposting about "le sub 8 males".
Sure thing buddy.
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>>32607447

What can't I get? My wife is far more attractive than picrel you silly little boy.
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>>32607416
> Picrel is average at best
Oh, is that why her face is saved among presumably hundreds of hard drives? You’re delusional
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>>32607243
counter point that can't work anyway because of:
https://youtu.be/O-y2mj3bC_c?t=6m40s
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>>32607456
How many hoes do you think the average viewer of this video has, and why?
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>>32607453

lol, what?
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>>32607475
>picrel is average
Why did you download the photo then.
You saved it specifically because she is pretty. Now you are pretending she isn't, why? Is this going to help you get a girlfriend?



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