>What is /htgwg/?How to Get Women General is by men, for men, about women, so bring all of your questions about getting and dealing with women here. Some anons on this site actually get laid, and some of them even want to help. If you're trying to meet and date women, then this is the place to ask questions, seek advice, and share experiences. We know how hard it can be. We got you bro.>What is /htgwg/ not?These threads are NOT for whining, moping, incels, volcels, MGTOW, hopelessness, or demoralization. We're all aware that meeting and dating women is hard today, and even harder for some, but /htgwg/ is for trying to overcome the challenges. IGNORE the posters who complain, give up, or insist there's nothing they can do. This site has other boards and threads that they can pollute. BE SMART: Spot the bait, don't reply, and DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM!>How to ask for adviceContext is important: be more specific than "This girl ghosted me, why?" We can't help if we don't know the situation, so try to provide as much (useful) info as possible ("I was at the bar, this chick was checking me out..."). What's your relationship with the girl? How long have you known her? Any conversation screenshots? Etc... Don't forget to ask an actual question.>Resources and BooksWingman.live: https://wingman.live/ (AI dating coach)"Models": https://pdfcoffee.com/318797392-mark-manson-models-2016pdf-4-pdf-free.html"No More Mr Niceguy": https://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612Wingmam: https://www.youtube.com/@YourWingmamDr. NerdLove: https://www.doctornerdlove.com/blog/Leykis 101: https://pastebin.com/7U5Sdhwqhttps://dokumen.pub/why-women-deserve-less-firstnbsped-1467978302-r-1917433.html(new suggestions with working links are welcome)REMEMBER: It's good to read and prepare, but don't overdo it. Get off this site: go learn and build up your social skills by meeting actual women in the real world.Prev: >>33732034
>I'm not asking for much, I just have some preferences>she can't:>drink>do drugs>go out to night clubs>have tattoos>have piercings>have dyed hair, unless it's of a naturally-occurring color (e.g. brunette to blonde)>have had sex>have had touched herself>have had any other form of physical intimacy>have a dating history>have any male siblings, especially older ones>have any male friends>have any female friends, just to be safe>have a cell phone>have social media>wear any sort of pants, ESPECIALLY shorts>wear skirts that end above the ankles>wear too much makeup, but not enough, it has to be juuuuust right>travel>go to collegefellas, why are we like this?
>>33763310>why are we like this?Its just you lil bro. There is no "we".
>>33763310>>have dyed hair, unless it's of a naturally-occurring color (e.g. brunette to blonde)it's impossible to dye your hair a lighter color
I can't find prostitutes in my small town, there is no information online, how do I find a prostitute with visual clues? Yes, it is legal here in my country
>>33763442I'll assume you are in Europe.Just take the trip to a nearby city wtf.I've never fucked a street walker, that's kind crazy
>>33763110Did you guys actually sleep with Fat girls for easy pussy? Like that an actual thing right?
>>33763543>Fatno, had a bunch of opportunities and passed on them all>borderline fat/chunky/plump/thicc & weird body shapeyeah
>>33763543>sleep with fat girlsYes one time>easy pussyYes believe it or not, it’s kind of stupid easyI don’t regret it but I don’t think I would do it again
>>33763310Must suck to live this way
>Be me at Gym>Doing 350 pound seated Machine Tricep dips>Blonde fit cutie walks towards me>I catch her in my peripheral >Slightly look over and see that she is staring at me like she has something to say>She walks away >AwkwardHas this happened to anyone else? Did she just confuse me for someone else, or was she checking me out, but decided not to say something?
Hey guysI’m a blonde girl who likes to workoutFor some reason this guy stares me down like he has issues when I’m just walking by to get to another machineI hope he doesn’t run home and fantasize about this encounter
>>33763543I refused pussy served on the plate for me, the girl was in love with me, I think I would be scared to see what a naked fat girl looks like
>>33763543I tried it once and she got pissed because I couldn't get hard
>>33763563>no, had a bunch of opportunities and passed on them allChadlite
>>33763786You really have a mental illness just sad man.
>>33763852Are you talking to yourself? NTA but you cry about the same shit in every thread
>>33763786There were no other machines in the area, it was at the corner of the gym. She was 3 feet away from me. My face was not pointed to her, but I noticed someone walking towards me, when I glance over with my eyes she is staring at me, then she turns around and walks away. Imagine you're sitting at a table in a café by yourself, no one else near you, and you're staring at a computer for schoolwork, when someone walks right up to you because they recognize you. It was similar to that. Your little joke is not even relatable to what happened, faggot.
>>33763895>Your little jokedamn, that really upset you.
>>33763110After some self assessment I believe I may be an uncomfortable person to be around. I think the biggest piece of evidence is that the managers I worked for at my last job always felt the need to lie to me or avoid answering me at all. Weather it was for why I didn’t get a promotion or just a complaint I was being given about being too loud. She always averted her gaze when we were clocking in. The moment I thought about transferring instead of waiting on a promotion, she jumped on it and any pretense of friendliness disappeared because all of it was lie I was too stupid to see.Other people got a clear answer. Other people got chewed out. With me, it was as if she was afraid of me. >what does this have to do with /htgwg/This seams to happen a lot when I cold and warm approaches.>The girl will scream after I say hi.>I’ll try to be friendly back with someone who started talking to me, and then they pull away.>a friend who I get along with just fine and never tried to date will have a mutual suggest the idea, and she will look at me with disgust.So I’m big, scary, and/or ugly. And it has nothing to do with a personality defect if I get these reactions without a sentence in. What’s the right thing to do in this situation?I want better companionship, but even pursuing it just makes me this creepy and scary guy.Do I just become an isolated hermit and cease as much interaction as possible? Or will that make me an even worse person?Do I continue trying to talk to women? They seem the most scared of me. But I also don’t do it that much. It’s like cycles where I try for a few months and give up for a few month.
>>33763442>Yes, it is legal here in my countryLucky bastard. Fuck the US.
Focus on school, focus on work, and focus on family. For the love of God don't make my mistake which is spend 15 years of life wasted on trying to get a girlfriend. I could have finished college earlier had I not done all of that.
>>33764327How old are you now?
>>3376471930
>>33764726I have a bit of time left. Thank you, anon.
>>33764742You let people label you anon. You label yourself too often too. I am not a dateless khhtv, but why live your life to that fucking standard.Oh ThAt HaRmLeSs DoRk oVeR tHeRe oH hE's GaY bEcAuSe He'S a ViRgIn??? What the fuck anon are you ever going to get over your retarded phase you had at 14?
I fucking hate hipsters too. Can't have a fucking god damn normal conversation without one acting arrogant and in a no bullshit mood. Just what the fuck! What in the absolute fuck!
>>33764774I'm basically playing catchup because I spent 6 years of my life by being a neet. I just got my first job in retail about 3 weeks ago. realistically speaking, there aren't that many women who would be interested in a guy like me because there are better options. Maybe I misread your post and you're calling me out for calling virgin men losers?
>>33764905HOLY FUCK YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SARCASM! Neurotypicals everytime I am with them do not gramatically understand antcedants, sentence structure, figurtive language, jokes, and now sarcasm.
>>33764958It's harder to read sarcasm in the form of texts on a screen unless it's structured to be very obvious. Also, I'm not a neurotypical. I think.
>NTs be like>Oh look it is a well constructed directly supported belief by anon>Notices autism>Nope anon is autistic so let's completely derail his argument and go into fucked up surreal world and imply he deviously means the opposite>Me with wtfface.jpg
>>33764983Okay anyway glad you aren't who I think you are. Misread your tone and attitude. My bad I thought you were the atypical cynic I deal with here. But yes you do have time and it isn't the end of the world to be a NEET.
How do you differentiate between a girl being nice and flirting?
>>33765003Well I'm not a neet anymore, so that's a good thing.
>>3375869I'm the guy who posted >>33726382I can't emphasize this enough:You know how sometimes they say "be yourself" so you can get girls? A lot of being yourself is confidence. Confidence is facial expressions. That is completely obscured and warped by glasses. Whereas otherwise you'd have looked confident, you'll just look awkward and like a dork. This is especially magnified when we're talking basic selfies (of which decent ones are a requirement for social media) or photos. You're going to have a really bad time building social proof with glasses. Speaking of which, that is the reason Stacy rejected you. That is the reason Chad doesn't like you. That is the reason you were never invited to parties or had Chad friends. You look so awkward and no one wants to lower their SMV and have a nerd friend like you. Stacy may have wanted attention from you but noticed the dorkiness from another angle, then played games with you and ghosted you. Glasses lead to constant frustration and humiliation. Burn this into your head.
>>33765257>>33758693
>>33763895>>33763761Sometimes, especially when I'm doing something disorienting, like working out, I wander around like a fucking idiot staring at things just to get myself back into reality while I catch my breath. It snaps me back into focus. Maybe she was doing the same, I really wouldn't read into such things a lot. And if you want to be that super friendly guy who talks to everyone, then you can do that, and next time go like hey what's up? With a wide smile and then if she says oh nothing sorry :) you can tell her oh it's okay you're allowed to approach me xddd Could be cute and funnyBut yeah as is right now, a female just walked near you. Seeing it as a signal is way too overblown >>33764198Sounds like you must have real goblin energy. It's probably combined with looks like you're thinking. But yeah I wouldn't discredit that this could be your personality. Women are literally built on FEELING the energy of a person. To get with women you must have good energy, and good energy starts in the mind. It starts with how you think and your attitude towards people and life. If you have unhealthy thoughts, you'll exude this energy. If my advice sounds vague it's because I don't know you so I'm giving you an advice that would apply to everyone - good thoughts and mindset and mentality means you have good energy means that people will like you. Also since you're mentioning girls - you need to follow the theory of abundance rather than scarcity. Make yourself meet many women on the daily, if you see that there's a lot - you'll act needy less often. This worked for me personally.
>>33765091To add on this,What are some examples of how you would flirt with a girl?Is it asking her about her interests? Is it calling her pretty? Is it complimenting her outfit?
Does being a bit of a creep work? Like staring at her ass (not too long and obviously not making any excessive expressions)
>>33765867Only if you're attractive
>>33765878It's over.
I have about 4 years max to get married and I've never even kissed a girl. Either I find some ~20yo at college that wants a lot of kids or I graduate, go to some third world country, and take a girl from there.Either way I have basically no time with massive potential for failure or bad results.I don't want things to be easy, but I wish they weren't this hard. Making solid progress every day but the uncertainty and worry are always there in the background.
>>33765867if you manage to make that funny, it can work. acknowledge you're checking her out and play it cocky / lighthearted. at the very least, smile and look her in the eye afterwardst. 6'4
Think I've made a rookie mistake bros>Match with really attractive woman>Attractive women are a rarity for me>Used one of her prompts that actually worked as a kind of icebreaker for a change>Asked a couple of generic "how are you" "what have you been doing" questions and even they worked>Then I massively dropped the ball by asking what she was doing this week instead of doing it more casual with the old what are your interests and/or hobbiesShe hasn't replied. I always do this. Somehow if I think out a reply I overthink it, if I reply too quickly I say something stupid, but regardless which one I do I always think of something better when it's already too late.
>>33766065At this point, Just date bigger women to gain conversational skill
>>33766089I have been doing that. I took that /adv/ice initially and it did work, massively helped me in fact. The biggest problem for me is that I know really attractive women are talking to other people who aren't as retarded as I am and they can't be fucked on with that.
Hey guys i need some advice on sexyesterday i was with my girl ive been dating for a couple of weeks and i couldnt get it up, sadly. I like her, she has a nice ass and nice tits so no problem in that regard, so i really dont know why i couldnt get it up. Im still calm since i managed to make her cum twice with my hands, but still...im depressed manshould i just take viagra? it was gonna be by first time btw, is this normal? does time need to pass?
>>33766097Ok, Why do you think asking generic questions is a good idea
>>33766169I don't. I just can't think of anything else to say because there's nothing to really work with until I know something about them and the only way I can find those things out is by asking generic questions and starting slow.The very odd time there's been something on a bio I can use they unmatch as soon as I've mentioned it. Genuinely every single time without even replying to the message.
>>33766180Don't listen to that guy. It's a good idea in your case. It worked for you, that means you look like a nice guy. Doesn't work for 99% of men because we don't look like one.
>>33766180>>33766097In my humble opinion, a girl that cant stand generic questions is a red flag. You dont know anything about her, there's nothing wrong with asking generic stuff until something more interesting comes up. Its not about the question itself, is how much you say about it. Theres a difference between >how are you>good and you>goodand>how are you>im great, drinking some coffee now to survive this week, and you>oh what kind of coffee do you like? bla blaA woman that gets annoyed at generic questions just either dont have anything to say or they still live in fantasy world like some chad is gonna sweep her out with the perfect questions, perfect game and take her out of her monotonous life.
>>33766215I mean in fairness it will work sometimes and if it doesn't it's like there's no way around it because you need to do the dreaded double message.Personally I think I look like a complete scumbag too, but from the compliments I get the ones I match with don't seem to think so. Or at least some of them don't. With others it's clear they think I am, but they like that because it's someone to "tame". It's very polar opposite shit, but it's been like that my whole life.>>33766254I would agree with that, especially with how it's worded. As long as there's something to work with I can easily get a conversation out of someone, but when it's that first green text it's as if I can feel my own energy draining and I can't be bothered. As long as there's something, anything, there I can ask a question about it's no problem.>A woman that gets annoyed at generic questions just either dont have anything to say or they still live in fantasy world like some chad is gonna sweep her out with the perfect questions, perfect game and take her out of her monotonous lifeI suppose something a bit related to that is when I ask someone something and they say "read my bio" and in fairness to them what I'm asking is on there, but when you ask them about their likes or something along those lines they don't list everything. They'll mention what they like most so the conversation can always stay with what they're most interested in.It's a little similar to being in a thread and asking a question you can google. Yeah I can google it, but having someone answer it means it can be discussed with that person and other people will join in.Thanks bros.
Went to a local Oktoberfest event this weekend, all three of the woman below 35 were hefty barrel chested freaks - like tomatoes on stilts, which is a considerable step up from the usual geriatric 45+ crowd I come across in this city. I still don't have a good idea where women still able and healthy enough to get knocked up hang out.
>>33765893>I have about 4 years max to get marriedIn what way do you have such a stupid deadline
>>33766065You should be asking her out within the first 3 moves anyways. If she replies eventually, spin it into a proper invitation
>>33766518If a guy has kids past bout 38 theyll be autists or schizos.In 4 years Ill be early 30s which gives me time for 4 or 5 kids.
>>33766543It's not the man so much as the woman.
is this legit?
>>33766959Chad doesn't need to play mind games
How can I obtain a Japanese wife? I visited last month and yeah I'm thinking this is what is best. Sadly, I am very tied to living in the US instead of living over there, but I am willing to steal one waifu for the United States. (I am willing to risk getting cucked for a VISA, I mean, you run any risk with marriage nowadays anyways lmao)Attraction (30yo, 6ft2in, white, and fit), language (I know the basics at least), and money ain't no issue, I just don't know the best way to go about it.
>>33763543>Like that an actual thing right?No, its not. What is an actual thing is they have a well earned reputation for being good at BJs. Its a pretty good time, more fun than alone at home with your own hand.
>>33766954the man has an affect too i know from the experience of being born to a guy who was a virgin into his 40s
>>33763761>staring at me like she has something to sayUnfortunately I have considerable experience with ask her friends what she was thinking and you hear:"When is this idiot going to talk to me or ask me out? How many more times do I have to walk past him with my yoga pants pulled up into my crotch its uncomfortable.""Well F him if he's giving me the silent treatment, I'm leaving, plenty of other guys will talk to me."
>>33767045>30yokekGet ready to be a step daddy
almost 27, never had gf/sex yadda yadda whatever, how do i get motivation to like bother with dating? I dont even have a sex drive anymore, I dont jerk off or watch porn and I'm not even obese. Am I supposed to go to the doc and ask for like Bupropion?
>>33767080sounds like your not healthy. maybe go to the gym, lose weight, get your plenty or protein and micro nutrients, go on walks, get lots of sleep, etc
>>33765091>being nice and flirtingBeing nice is talking about anything.Flirting is a topic directly related to or at least adjacent to dating or sex."How about that football game last night" or "whats your opinion on the tin ore import tariff changes for 2027?" is being nice."How about that Apple Harvest Festival Beer Garden next week I wish I had someone to go with me" or "My doctor put me on a new birth control pill and I sleep so well now" or "what are your weekend plans this saturday night I don't have any yet" or "I just bought these new yoga pants I am not sure if they are too tight or not, what do you think of them?" are flirting.
>>33765257>Confidence is facial expressions.LOL I'd say its mostly the stuff you say and especially how you say it and tone of voice LOL.Superman sounds like superman speaking, not klark kent speaking. I don't think its the cape or the smile.
>>33767074brownoid detected
>>33767045>How can I obtain a Japanese wife? come to brazil
>>33765867My experience is they consider looking and touching about the same and if they like you they really like it, if they don't like you then you will be in trouble. Generally you'll only get in legal trouble for touching and looking is OK if you want to give up all hope of getting together if she doesn't already like you."Oh, I like it when YOU look"There are exceptions like professional strippers on the job, I guess, but pretty much permission to touch and stare "look" are a package deal.
I got rejected, it's a bit different this time, I kinda feel weak and empty. Not sad, when will this end? Help me god to get through this and please help me find a wife.
>>33767080>ask for like BupropionLOL no ask for a full hormone test suite.Probably very low T, maybe low thyroid, hard to say.Unironically you need either a male doctor for this or a /fit/bro /fit/broette doctor. Generic chick doctor #423516 will see a wide range of "normal male adult T range" and you have a great T level for a 90 year old man complete with a typical 90 year old man's raging sex drive (aka none) so you'll not get a script. You want a normal-to-high T level for a guy your age not for a 90 year old man who's technically an adult male. Dude doctors or /fit/ doctors will understand.You may have to doctor shop a bit.
How do I break the ice with a gym thot?
>>33767246Im no chad but you dont. You try to keep it as professional as possible and let her be the one that suggests something outside of the gym. "are you using this machine" etc.
>>33767246Make eye contact and smile. See what she does.
>>33767246Play the long gameMake eye contact and smileSay hi the next couple sessions you walk pastSee if she initiates the greetingsThen you can try making small talk and light flirting for a couple sessions ask for her name etcThen you can suggest meeting outside the gymGym is different from apps and going out in that you should slow down a bit.
>>33767253>>33767256>>33767267thanks, I'm on it now boys.
>>33766390There are many at university
>>33767338where to chill at a university? i went to the bars, and they were only old fucks, albeit i might have went too early day...
I can't believe I need a degree in the science of picking up women these days.I'm going to start not giving a fuck, become stoic and shoot in all directionsTired of this shit, I'm going to give up my empathy, maybe this way my chances will increase
>get match>talk to girl about her cat>making jokes, think things are going okay>eventually cat discussion trails off>ask how her day’s going and send a cat picture (she has similar pictures)>ghostedWhat the fuck did I do? Should I just fucking ask at this point “before you leave what did I do wrong?”
>>33767576You talked about her cat instead of about her and then signaled for her to lead the conversation. She ain’t got time for that when she can just go to the next one in her dms.
>Text text text text text>Go on one of our dates that ends terribly>Three texts a day now if I'm lucky>"I'm just tired lol"She's getting bucked wild isn't she
>>33767608Okay, so what do I do differently? Do I just ramble on about topics and let her respond?
>>33767660Ask her for pictures of her kitty
>>33767660These sites are for dating or hooking up. Don’t drag your feet getting to the point.
>>33767674It’s only been a day, you think I still have a shot if I ask her to send pics of her cat?
>>33767514Literally just look good and talk to them like you would a guy friend.Dont talk about autistic shit like how you play world of warcraft though. Talking about the weather is better than that.
>>33767683How long should I go back and forth before asking for a date? After one round of conversation/topic?
>>33767685If you want to fuck her and she’s seems cold, burn it all down and ask her for lewd pics. If she doesn't respond move on to the next girl.If she sends you pics tell her you wanna fuck her
>>33767695You do you, but right off the bat i choose something to compliment her on then say that i’d love to take her out this weekend.
>>33767719Ok. That may be my problem, I think I’m talking for too long on these apps
>>33767692>implying autists can do small talk
>cold approach cute girl in B&N with intent of getting her number>usually do this by just saying they're cute, which I think is not a great approach because it's so nonspecific, but I suck at sparking conversations with strangers, so I try to keep it simple so I don't get tongue-tied and also quick so I don't waste either of our time> this time compliment her dress and ask where she got it (this wasn't a lie, it was a nice dress)>she's very smiley and seems to be enjoying the conversation, talking about where she grew up, where she lives, how she likes it in the city etc.>instead of asking for her number, I end up just saying "thanks have a great day" and leaving, because it was a pleasant interaction and didn't want to "ruin" it by trying to pick her upI'm so fucking backwards bros.
>>33767904Thanks for the laugh, anon. I needed that.
>>33767904fucking retard kys
>>33764327I'm studying hard to get a job that will make me rich. It's possible, but it will take at least two years.But I also want to use my time to pick up women... I feel like I need to do both or I'll have that missing out feeling.
>>33767904>got her smiling, giggling, telling you personal details>eruhhh, have a g-g-good day! *runs off*Some of you deserve to die alone, I swear to God.
Reminder that she expects you to hit on her.Beautiful women don't fuck cowards.
>>33764327Is it bad that I'm 22, going on 23, and still trying to figure out what to study for college? I don't even think I should go at this point, I need something that'll get me into a decent salary 1-2 years post graduation but it feels like a pipe dream. I hate working a job that pays pennies
>>33767904ignore the retards shitting on you anon, sometimes it's totally fine to just have a conversation with a girl and end it there. it's great practice and does wonders for the sense of desperation which in fact ruins most pickups (rather than the act of trying to get their number).
>>33767054I don’t think being born to an older father is why you’re a 4chan browsing weirdo.
I fucking hate these 'test' questions>but anon....how much do you love me???>How far are you willing to go to be with me??etc.How to deal with them. Im not a smoothtalker.
>>33768087dont play her games
>>33768087with indifference, do not put effort into passing them
>>33768092Waht im a supposed to say then?
>>33768087>Im not a smoothtalker.You’ve got to do the opposite of a smooth talking and just flat out shut that shit down.
If she isnt texting me daily, I pretty much have no shot right?
>>33768101ugh
>>33768181Don’t know if this is your style, but you can do it like a southern father reprimanding his young daughter. “Uh uh, no ma’am. We don’t play those games.”
>>33768197A bit too late for that. she insists I give real answers. In my mind im asking myself:why the fuck does she feel the need to introduce this tension for no reaso. Do I really need to prove myself every time?
>>33768087>bout tree fiddy
>>33767054Sounds more like being a loser is a genetic thing that your dad passed on
>>33768211You dont get it. She only does this because you let her.
>>33768027he just rejected a girl who was interested in him
>>33767054So why am I a 4chan browsing weirdo?>>33768430Parents need to take care of their kids. That's my story, and my dad's. That said there's a difference. My dad was woefully out of touch with his biology. He literally didn't care about girls.I on the other hand have been desperately trying to get girls to like me since probably 2018 and I was 20 back then.Me being a loser is because I was corrupted into a hopeless degenerate. Fixing that now though.My dad literally just enjoyed his life. He didn't care about girls until the last moment.If a guy has kids in his 40s the kids are more likely to end up being neurodivergent. Can't say what's wrong with me specifically, but its not nothing. My existence is far too cerebral compared to the average person.
>>33767124What you're saying is that superman can be a scrawny kid and still be superman. There's a fine line between a muscular man and scrawny kid, can we agree on that? The same thing applies to faces. Just as a recessed face can't be superman, he needs a proper jawline to be perceived as such. The same applies to facial features. A distorted face can't be superman. What about a sad face? Or depressed face? Compare that with cheery. These also affect perceived confidence. And if we keep going, we land at glasses skewing the face and therefore causing a breakdown in how "confident" you look.
>>33769085What's wrong with neurodivergence? Neurodivergence is just a different way of thinking. They can still be intelligent functioning members of society. People with down syndrome can be as well. If I had a kid he may be autistic, but I know he'll be a decent intelligent guy who is a bit quiet and serious, but stays focused.
>>33769375And to reiterate, I must emphasize this. Eyes are the most powerful asset that determines whether someone views you as confident or not. Especially, a facial expression will be distinctly remembered if your eyes are clear of obstruction. With glasses on, your eyes are always skewed so the default expression is chosen for you. You lose a lot of nuance in there.
>>33769085>If a guy has kids in his 40s the kids are more likely to end up being neurodivergent.Judging from the way you described your dad, it sounds to me like he was autistic to begin with and you would have ended up autistic regardless. That being said, I doubt you are autistic/ND or whatever. As someone who used to work with actually autistic kids and young adults, it really annoys me when your regular shut-in tries to defend their loser attitude by claiming autism. No nigger, you aren't autistic, you're just a faggot who is now blaming his poor dad.
>>33760922>>33761763>texted her last night>got half an essay of why she couldnt on my day and suggested next week insteadit's on
>>33763543I havent had sex in 3 years and was thinking about doing this but id rather just be alone at this point. Lmao
Has anyone here ever asked 100 girls out in a day? Like go to a shopping outlet/mall/college campus and just shoot your shot all day until you have like 5 numbers? I'm strongly considering doing this. I've seen videos of pickup artists like Jack Denmo and Vitalyzdtv back in the day and they show really how fucking easy it should be. My plan I guess would be the approach of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mRM1VwUiYA I know some of these videos can be scripted, but this is definitely authentic.I have been a social pussy all my life and have only had one serious gf for 5 years that I will be breaking off soon because it is with a milf. I'm at the point where I need to make a change in my life. I have been horrified in starting conversations with random people in general because I always have the feeling in the back of my head that I will run out of things to say and the awkwardness will kill me, which has been basically my life. I just need to fucking get over myself. I'm 32, white, 6'1", am decent looking, have a great job and car
>>33769463>Jack Denmocrazy how that guy is in jail and google took down all his channels. plus he has another trial ongoing with a different girl who accused him of rape too.>5 yearsnigga. I don't think you realize how hard it's gonna be to get up to speed after 5 years of being in relationship mode. that complacency will take a while to break out of. worry about meeting one girl before you think about meeting 100.
>>33769463didn't even check your link first, bruh that's fucking Vitaly, you know the one guy who's so notorious for staging videos that he's basically a living meme, you've gotta be fucking trolling>this is definitely authenticyeah lmfao gtfo
>>33769477Guarantee you Jack didn't do anything wrong, he just got metoo'd and got fucked by his lawyer. Hard to believe that happened though, I know.and I know it's been a long time since I played the field, I am just trying to get a game plan going in my head and for you guys to call me a retarded faggot. I've considered striking up conversations with girls in clothing outlets while i'm shopping but haven't been able to pull the trigger yet.>>33769482I know he stages most of his videos, but I feel like simply cutting to the chase and asking for a number immediately would work on some girls if you are decent looking enough and if you do it enough times. Just need confidence in my delivery and body language
I'm seeing this girl and she's serious about getting into a relationship, she told me she sees herself being in a relationship with my dumbass for some reason, but her instagram is literally her just travelling and going to parties and the concerts of super popular and generic "artists". Basically she's an ultra normie with no soul. But there is a huge positive. She has big tits and is Asian. Do I go for it or find someone else? This is the closest I've ever gotten to being in a relationship after 1.3 years of trying
>>33769531Hey dude. Stop thinking so much. Its pretty fucking gay. Next time you see a woman youre attracted to go up to her and talk to her. Seriously. You sound like a lame
>>33766959I'm not reading all of that
>>33767695Within the first 3 exchanges. Like you should open with a playful remark, see what she says in return, see if you can spin her reply into an invitation or at least nudge her in the direction. Like the other dude said you both matched on a dating app, why beat around the bush with setting up a date?
>>33768021Not that bad but if you don't have ambition to do anything then you'll stay in a rut forever. Find something you enjoy and cultivate that
>>33768211>she insists I give real answers.That is a real answer.
What are you supposed to do after you make a girl blush while talking to her?
>>33768211>real answers>to a shit-test questionnot possible anon. tell her if she gonna do dumb shit test questions like that the answer is zero minutes and walk away.
>>33770116tell her she's cute when she blushes
>>33770116lick her face
Can you guys tell me openers youve used that led to anything? I get stuck in the start of the conversation. I know it varies but this will help. Context doesnt really matter any situation helps
>>33769461lol, the state of dating. When a literal virgin expect a 8/10 kek
>>33771015>a non-fat chick>8/10How messed up are your standards?
>>33763110I really need help with cold approaches.I want to stop using datings apps and talk to cute girls at the bookstore but how do I get over my built-in impulse to avoid causing anyone discomfort for any reason whatsoever?I know that this wouldn't be the case most likely but it still feels strange, the idea of making a stranger suffer for the small chance of personal benefit.Does anybody know what I mean?I know it sounds gay and stupid but I am just trying to be honest here and speak plainly.
why are so many women fucking gay now? its like every other chick only likes pussy, wtf
>>33765257Here are statistics from a study that was done on this subjecthttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9045786/For anyone who still claims that glasses don't make a difference. That's a pretty massive difference and we're talking going from being an 8 to sub 5.
>>33771575Also, those with glasses are perceived as less intelligent. Because, you know, when you're less attractive you're deemed a literal retard. The biggest reported loss is in perceived confidence.
>>33771575>>33771587Keep in mind several studies have been done and they have similar findings. Science does not lie.
>>33771261If you're like me, that impulse to avoid causing others discomfort is actually projection of your own avoidance of causing causing yourself discomfort. The way you get over that is by starting small talk
is this true?
>>33771856Hole status: Seething
>Very much like a girl a lot>Can't stop thinking about her and how nice it is being around her and how at ease I feel with her. >I fear wanting a relationship and it not working out could ruin our relationship forever and I don't want to lose someone like her out of my lifeHow do I correctly solve this dilemma? Been an issue for me since my high school years and I never figured out how to handle this situation.
>>33772917Well done, you’ve friend-zoned yourself. The way to combat this is to always, from the very beginning, approach ever female interaction with the goal of dating. You’re not going to be able to backdoor your way into it. Befriend the girls that like you but you don’t like.
>>33772941You're saying I go forward and approach her, then? Since either way I may risk losing my relationship with her so I should go down after trying rather than going down empty handed and disappointed in myself for never trying at all.
>>33771856Stop taking twitter seriously
as someone who has got no pussyhas getting pussy changed your life?even in small or subtle waysworth it over jerking off?
>>33773591pussy didnt change my life I remained unchanged still a loser just with knowledge of pussy. I had to escortcell. If I had to go back I would wait to find someone I love or at least Im attracted to.
>>33773591It will feel great for a month then it will just be normal. Its like what happened after I finally got a car after not being allowed to drive until I was 18. I was jealous of everyone who had cars and I wanted one so bad for years. Now its as normal as riding my bike was as a kid. Getting that monkey off your back will do wonders for your confidence though
>>33773591As someone who has gotten no pussy, I always thought it was silly to obsess whenever or not you have lost your virginity or not.It's not like having sex makes you better than anyone else or makes you a better person just like that. Your achievements define who you are, not whenever or not you've put your pp in pussy. I like to compare the people who overvalue sex like that in the same way people overvalue shit like nofap. Like yeah, it's good to not be addicted to masturbation and such, but doing it won't make you a better person, you make yourself a better person.
>>33773591Sex with a woman you love is such a massive radical shift in how your brain works. You can chalk it up to brain chemistry or psychology or whatever you want, but it colored and brightened every other part of my life for the better. If you work hard at your job, go to the gym, practice skills, etc. then getting pussy validates all of that ex post facto; you don't desire for anything else. Conversely if you do all of that and don't get pussy it feels terrible and jerking off simply reduces the magnitude of emotional anguish temporarily.I can't speak to having promiscuous sex outside of a committed relationship, but it probably feels pretty meaningless after a while. Making love never gets old.
>>33773999Women are not made to be loved, nor can they love. Regardless of how you feel, from her end relationships are entirely transactional. Even if she's thinking and acting emotionally, the end means is still logical. An example where women are very cunning is when it comes to who they're mating with, financially speaking. The sooner you understand this, the sooner your mind will be set free.
>>33774030Now, can a woman feel attraction? Sure, but just as much as you desire pussy, women desire something abstract that isn't really particularly tied to one man.
>>33774030>Even if she's thinking and acting emotionally, the end means is still logicalHow is this any different for a man? I likewise demand certain things from women, and under certain circumstances can logically cut them off even if I emotionally love them. How is that any different?
I finally met a girl who wants a serious relationship with me BUT she has a recessed chin. That's her massive flaw. Should I still go for it or what?
>>33774213dating is all about trying. try it. maybe you'll get sick of it, maybe youll grow to think it's cute or even her cutest part.
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>>33774213Idk, is the recessed chin that important/distracting to you? How recessed are we talking? Are her qualities as a woman chin based?I'd say that unlesss you answer Yes to any of those questions, it wouldn't hurt to try. Obviously don't play with her feelings and if the chin is that much of a dealbreaker then let her know things may not work out. But if how you feel for her or around her is greater than how you feel about the chin, I'd say go for it.Though I'm more of a personality type rather than looks so I can ignore those kind of things easier.
I am almost 6'1" but have the skinny fat body of Destiny, plus pectus excavatum. I can't lift weights much because of health issues. What do?
I actually can't tell what's my taste in women.On one hand, I've always said personality and smarts are some of the most attractive features a woman could have and are the traits I'm the most interested on when meeting one.On the other hand, some of the smartest women I've met with great personalities are also the prettiest and sexy-looking ones I've ever met. So I can't truly tell if I'm attracted to their personalities or looks.
>>33774174A man can never be attracted to a woman based on something abstract. We're almost always attracted to them based on their looks, including how they feel, smell, etc... it's never about something non-physical. Hence men are on the losing end and are likely to be obsessed with women, whereas women never felt such attraction to begin with. This is why men are manipulated by women.
>>33774389Specially, since if a woman leaves you, you can't easily replicate her looks. But the smart woman knows that men are everywhere and everything that we can bring to the table for them can be instantly replaced.
>>33774316How's your diet? Can you at least do high reps of calisthenics? Walking and HIIT cardio will help, too
>>33774492My diet is clean but I don't eat high protein since I can't lift weights anyway or do anything that stresses my elbows. Maybe I'll take up HIIT cardio when I feel better
>>33771683Could you elaborate on that? I understabd that talking has nothing to do with information but how do I make this feel anything other than grating? You are making a lot of sense though. I guess other people might find talking without purpose fun or whatever.
>>33771683Also is this really true? Because ime most people under 25 (specifically the ones I would like to get to know) just want to be left the fuck alone.
>>33763110I'm 30, I'm lonely. I think I deserve to be loved and share that love to someone else.
I'm a white guy but I only get dates with asian women? Why does this happen? I live in a major city on the east coast but my conversations on hinge always fizzle out with the white women. I want white kids. Does this happen to anyone else? I work in tech as a 27M.
You all I think I may just have a girlfriend...
>>33774713I'd be sooo happy if I was in your shoes I love asian women soooo much>>33774271>>33774232I think I'm gonna go for it because she's asian and has a nice body, I don't think I can pass this up
>>33774553Prove it.
>>33773999thanks anoni mean, I don't know how this worksI figured "so you fuck a bunch of random women until you find the one" but I guess I could just go look for the One, although I worry about sexual inexperience being a problemyet it sounds like 'Love conquers all' here.it sounds like finding someone you love is a lot more valuable than shoving your dick inside any pussy that comes around
>>33774967You're right, I have to prove it first. Time to put myself out there
>>33774713Same. Go to an asian country and date the white women solo travellers. I went on a date with a american white rich sorority girl in Japan, I had a gorgeous french girlfriend in Japan. I have an icelandic girl coming over this weekend in Japan.The issue is that due to the cirucmstances, it is mostly going to be temporary and will lead to an LDR, which are gay.
>>33773591This >>33773624 exactly. Also even when it's lost that reified allure that you build up as a virgin, its still worth it over indulging yourself
How many times have you thought you were getting flirty vibes but were wrong?
>>33774367Looks are very important though. As a society we shame people for being shallow, but physical attraction is almost always the basis for people becoming partners. Of course you need to look beyond appearances if you want things to be meaningful and last though
>>33775292Lots of girls are flirts, maybe they are flirting but just don't want to escalate to anything right now for some reason. Consider that too.
>>33774543>>33774547Making small talk and being friendly is a normal social skill that needs to be developed and kept sharp. Its hard when youre out of practice and easy to make those excuses to not go out of your comfort zone. When you do it enough times however, the awkwardness eventually subsides and the positive interactions feed into a growing sense of confidence which makes interactions like this enjoyable almost. From the other person's perspective, being talked to is normally not a huge deal unless they are obviously very occupied with something. People are social creatures and interacting in a pleasant manner wont be off putting For a well adjusted person. Think about times when a charismatic person has interacted with you for a bit — receiving friendly attention probably felt good, and the only awkward part was your own clumsiness navigating responses. Everyone else more or less feels the same way in these situations, all it takes is a little friendliness to get them to be receptive. Its not that they want to be left alone, they are also not at ease making small talk.Look, i used to (and occasionally still) make the excuse that people dont want to be bothered when I'm feeling apprehensive to talk to them. I have to remind myself that im being a miserable loser though and that a healthy person shouldn't be afraid of offering idle chitchat.
>>33775359firstly thank you so much for the insightful response!>person has interacted with you for a bit >receiving friendly attention probably felt gooddesu it usually hasn't because I end up just wanting them to shut the fuck up and get to the point (what do they want from me?). I know that this isn't the right way to be but I seriously struggle with the concept. Have you had any experience with this?>and the only awkward part was your own clumsiness navigating responsesFor me it's mostly paranoia + wanting to get back to my daydream or book.Is it over for me?>that a healthy person shouldn't be afraid of offering idle chitchat.I know this to be true and it frightens me that I will have to fabricate a farce in order to succeed.Again, thank you.
How do I get over that gut wrenching frustration after getting dumped by a 10/10 during the honeymoon phase?I have a girl coming over this weekend but she just isn't her.
It's over brosonly way to get baddies is by being incredible at somethinglike one aspect of you has to be in the top 5% that's why tal lguys have it easy they are already in the top 5% of society through geneticsbut evn at 30 yerars old I have no aprt of my life that's in that realmi'm starting to get my shit together but it might take a long time
I havent been to a club in a long tine but I remember dancing, girls starting to dance in front of me supersuperclose, almost brushing against me but then if I even tapped them on the shoulder they gave me nasty looks. Whats up with that.
>>33775529it's a shit test, you have to insult them
>>33775530And then what? Theyll have me removed by a bouncer?
>>33775535>bro is defeated by his own imaginationanywaythe real lesson here is just do something to show you're higher status than them, or that they're actually below youonly way for them to get attracted to you in the club
>>33771261So I'm getting really good at this again. Here's exactly how it mapped out for me and I mentioned this in a previous thread...My gf and I broke up. I hung out with some guys who were skilled, but no where near as skilled as my buddy/wing and I were at our peak. Nevertheless it was enough to jump start me back up and remember fragments of my old self. I knew I needed to approach. I set a goal to just do what I call "hi-byes" which are simple opens you then immediately eject out of. I needed to do about 4 of them before I started to get frustrated that I wasn't sitting in set longer.So my fifth I approached and then just started bantering. I probably lasted like 5 minutes, but it felt like a drug. I could feel my old self coming back. So the next day I did another and that lasted like 15 minutes and I probably could have gotten her number. I don't live in a great area and again, I was doing this all solo. I went to a bar solo and did very light banter. I wasn't happy with my results, but I'm also really damn hard on myself.A few more solo outings to various places and eventually you just stop feeling awkward or giving much of a shit. It's like bombing on stage as a comedian. You just keep forcing yourself to go out there and eventually you can even just revel in the awkwardness and use it to get better. So after a few solo outings, I just lost my fear of rejection. I also found myself going "wait, why the fuck didn't I get that girl's number?" I started meeting people and finding myself able to hold longer and longer conversations with people in general...People see you sort of easily working your way through a crowd and at least not getting awful reactions and go "who the fuck is that guy?" Guys want to hang out with you or more accurately, follow you. Girls start not wanting you to leave. Eventually you find yourself not going out solo anymore and remembering to get numbers and now you start going "I'm pretty sure I could fuck this girl..."
>Cute girl at work obviously wants me>talk to her>she drops spaghetti and bails>keeps signalling>repeatHow to break out of this?
>>33771261I think you'll find that what everyone repeats is true:the first few approaches are always the hardestbut it's' like jumping in the cold poolyou eventually get used to itbut it's a feeling that kind of resets if you don't train it enoughthe most practical thing to do is just ask them a questionor practice in your head, when you see someone what would I like to know about themjust go out, walk around, and observebe curiousonce you can just out of genuine curiosity approaching strangers is easy.this is also the frame you want to have when you approach a girl you are attracted toliek what the fuck made her so attractive to mewho is sheif you are filled with this kinjd of curiosity then you will naturally HAVE to approachso in my opinion work on your people observation skills unbtil you can't hold in your NEED to approach
>>33775577ok re reading this it's a jumbled messbut the gist is thisyour frame right now is>omg shes so cute i need to talk to her>but what if i bother herthe right frame is this>damn she's attractive>who is she>i genuinely need to find outthe only difference is that in the first you're trying to go in it with some type of goalin the second example you literally NEED to approach because your mind needs to solve this problem of figuring out who she isalso, in the second example we go in it with 0 expectations, just being genuineso we have to train ourselves to be genuinely interested in other people, to a point that we must act because our brain doesn't let us not act
>>33775553>>33771261To address your other issues...you aren't going to cause people discomfort on average if you are a fun and interesting person. You might have some self-esteem issues if your demeanor is essentially "I...s...sorry that I'm breathing the same air as you..." so you'd have to figure out why that is and fix it. There's 4 big tendencies to lean on though.1. People like to laugh.2. People like to have fun.3. People like to talk about themselves.4. People don't like people who can't read social cues.If she's not laughing, if she's not looking invested or interested in the interaction, or if she isn't giving her opinion or contributing ANY conversational threads to work with, you can at least pull off number 4 by politely ejecting. So ultimately you really aren't causing anyone harm. You're trying to have a good time and if they don't want to have a good time with you, it's all good..."see ya!" Just get out of your own head and don't overthink this sort of shit. Some stuff you should think a lot about. This stuff isn't it.
>>33767246become the buffest guy at the gymor the best lookingor at least in the top 10%then you'll feel like you deserve all the girls that go to your gym
>>33774389This just isn't true. Physical attraction is important for both sexes and so is abstract attraction.>>33774972It's rare and much easier said than done, but if a woman is truly into you then she's gonna want to fuck you 1000 times. A little awkwardness on the first time is insignificant, you can just try again until things go better. That's how it was with me anyway.
>>33774547No it's not true, people generally want to be left the hell alone. If I had a bunch of fat chicks wanting to start conversations with me at the bookstore all the time about stuff I wasn't interested in I would get fatigued too; this is basically the average woman's experience as she sees 80% of men as unattractive. I actually revel in causing myself discomfort in order to stimulate personal growth and to this day I still absolutely despise being a bother to other people, both men and women. It has nothing to do with rejection, I feel the same way about starting conversations with strangers in another country to practice a second langauge. I know I will never see these people again and there is nothing to be "rejected" by, it's just practice, but I empathize as a human being and know I'm going to be a bother, so I don't do it. It's just logical.
>>33763110A lot of dudes out there are actually no good at this but they're going to give advice. So anyways one thing I'm good at is maintaining a long-term relationship with a woman. Anybody has any questions about that let me know. I've been married longer than most of you have been alive.
>>33775526>like one aspect of you has to be in the top 5%Ezpz man. Just decide and then do it with all of your energy and vitality (most people do not do this so you will win just by deciding) seriously, it ain't easy but it is simple!
>>33775553What an incredibly moralising response! Thank you man!
>>33775583>>33775604>>33775553I am saving these posts; thank you!
>>33775526>>33775774It literally doesn't matter, you can get a PhD in physics and be at "the top" and women will not care less. You just need to be attractive, and failing that, be entertaining. That's it. Women are not going to entertain your gymcel delusions of self improvement to get the baddie.
>>33775702I would like to hear more about this since you se to understand it isn't about rejevtion but baseline empathy. How to overcome this? Is it correct to?
>>33775786Well you have to go niche, right? I don't really consider fitness to be a hobby outside of the obvious outliers (bodybuilding etc.), fitness is maintenance. You wouldn't call skincare or fashion a hobby unless you are producing products. It's about producing something genuine to you and then going at it full force.
>>33775796Yeah but niche shit isn't attractive unless you are already attractive for other reasons. I reiterate that you could go full force into a PhD in physics and produce novel research and women will not care at all. You're better off half-assing like 3 or 4 things that look good in pictures like traveling or making birdhouses.
>>33775814>You're better off half-assing like 3 or 4 things that look good in pictures like traveling or making birdhouses.Well sure if you want to attract someone vapid.Listen, I am not an optimist trying to make you fellate grass and insuflate roses. I get it. Most people are fat, tattooed, generic and have no sense of curiosity and go for the lowest common denominator which makes for a demoralising experience on the sidelines thinking to yourself "I thought we agreed that we werebbetter than animals". It sounds cynical and misanthropic but that is how it makes me feel sometimes.So how about we skip that back and forth and cut to the chase:If you could be in the top 5% of something what would it be?Hell, give me three things.Forget about women in this ewuation just focus on that question for now.
>>33775830Look you are certainly speaking the same language as me but I don't think we are going to see eye to eye on the results part of the equation. If we are talking realistically about goals, hobbies, pursuits, etc. then I would pick physics, playing an instrument, and learning a language. I already have a PhD (it wasn't a hypothetical), I've been playing brass instruments since I was a child, and I've been language learning for about a year now. It doesn't matter if I spend 2 hours a day trying to be better and the top 5%, it doesn't matter if I AM the top 5%, women do not care at all about these things. These are things that make for interesting conversation with MEN.
>>33775786false all the phd professors bang all their studentsyou're just not top 5%once you're top 5% you literally have authorityauthority = free sex
>>33775920Then change your advice. It's not about being the "top 5%" of something, it's about being in a position of authority over a woman. Which is obviously circumstantial and is not something anyone can just "work on." People with physics PhDs are literally 99th percentile in intelligence, attracting women has nothing to do with being the best or the smartest at something.
>>33775920Extorting your grad students for sex on pain of failing them out doesn't really count as pulling.
>>33775942On pain of failing them? On merit they were going to fail anyways.
>>33775937nah they're not all 99 percentilethey're mostly in the 80-90they need to get smarter anyway, having a position of power over people makes you top level of something.100%. all your worries would go away if you were just better at whatever you choose to be better atstop coping
>>33775920ok I need to clear something up hereLet's say youre the top 5% level iq mother fuckerIf so, you need to make that your identityso yes being the best at something does not automatically guarantee success, but it in fact is a prerequisite to getting womenFirst you become top level at something that is part of your identity, who you areThen you become known for that. (meeting people, having a network)Once your name is out there girls will literally fall into your lap because you're the best at that one thing
>>33775965Physics PhDs have median IQs of ~140 which is 99.5th percentile, you have no idea what you are talking about lmao.>>33775975>Once your name is out there girls will literally fall into your lap because you're the best at that one thingThis is so delusional lmao. Literally everyone I know sees me as "the smart physics guy" and defers to me for advice and information about a wide range of topics. That has absolutely 0 bearing on how women view me from a romance perspective.
>>33775983Honestly I can't comment on this because let's say hypothetically you are in the 99th percentile of intelligence. (your test scores would be insane)You'd be seeked out by companies, you'd have access to very good salaried positionsYou'd just advance through life in such a simple wayIf you wanted to get a girl, the place you work for would easily supply you with opportunities You'd be giving conferencesYou'd be able to write papers, books, videos But something tells me you're just not there?I think the missing element other than being insane at something is making that one aspect you're good at your whole life
>>33775845Well in that case that really sucks man and I would be angry as well. I went the literature route and although that has admitedly paid off with women they never actually care, they just like the surface level implications of it. Honestly, if they don't appreciate you being a genius at physics then that saddens me. I understand why (vapidity and social status being structured around optics instead of actual contribution) but I really don't like it and I apologise for my prior empty conviviality
>>33776017Life is not that simple. In the first place, the pay with a PhD isn't as amazing as you are thinking, and you generally have to live in high cost of living areas. My friend who I keep up with can *barely* afford a house with his salary. To get those positions at all you have to move very far away as they are in limited locations across the country, and I value my family more than that, so I switched fields. I still make decent money, but I don't have the "status" of the job (which again, doesn't actually attract women. The guys in my program who did get jobs are no more successful with women than I am). Also the gender dynamics are abysmal, it's 4:1 or 5:1 so you don't even stand out within your own company if you even have female coworkers in your department at all. You are correct though in that I didn't go "all in." I did for a time, and while I was going all in and wasting my 20s away in a lab (where the few coworkers I had were all men, by the way) I had no success with women either. So I traded my 20s for very little, unfortunately. When I tell women on dates what I did in graduate school they feign interest before clearly wanting to move on to talk about anything else. And I generally seek out high quality women who are otherwise very polite and mild-mannered, they just obviously don't care about the things I care about, which is fair because I'm very male-brained and they are obviously not men.>>33776045It's okay, at least I got my point across. I wouldn't really want to be in your boat either to be honest, but I've come to terms with the fact that the things I find interesting simply aren't interesting to 99% of women unless the woman is autistic (it has happened before and we hit it off). It's basically just hard to connect with women in general and that doesn't seem like it's going to change regardless of what strategies I employ.
>>33776072>unless the woman is autistic (it has happened before and we hit it off).Man, I really feel you on this. It has happened to me twice and each and every day I wonder to myself if winning the lottery a third time is even possible, let alone probable.>It's basically just hard to connect with women in general and that doesn't seem like it's going to change regardless of what strategies I employ.Yeah, I mean even when I do have a girlfriend I get bored quite quickly and come to realise that she just views me as a novelty, an eccentric instead of an actual person. It is tiring. The way I feel about it is:I can't go on,I'll go on.
>>33775983"Smart physics guy"Is not enough. So is the Chad who studied physics courses and knows enough to banter about it. Are you a professor?
>>33776849No I'm not a professor, and none of them people I know who went "all in" became professors. An extremely small percentage of PhD graduates end up becoming professors and it's not a lucrative career path or one that comes with status outside of academic circles.
>>33763110How do I nab autistic baddie to play games with me? Needs to jack me off with her feet thoReally feels like I'm missing that in that made up pyramid of needs. It's quintessential
>>33767338ime no, they either have an SO or aren’t looking because studying. Used to come across a lot of alums while I was still using hinge and I can’t imagine it’s improved at all in the years since I left uni
Didn't want to make a thread for this but I haven't seen an escort in over a year and Im still fantasizing about seeing one even though I'm financially in ruins and should be focusing on getting out of debt that but yet I'm planning my next experience now. Trying to find a girl(friend) to satisfy my urges but its damn near impossible on the apps. I think I'm going to start cold approaching.
>>33763110>Every time I get a reply on Snapchat followed by a good back and forth it turns out to be a scammer>Every time a real foid opens it she leaves it on read>There are hundreds of other men messaging her at all timesIs this the state of "modern" dating? Snapchat used to be good up to 3 years ago for chatting up random hoes.
>>33776017Literal teenager naivety on display here wow
I think me and a female friend micro flirt, might just be in my head, but I think I'm feelin somethin here
>>33775779>>33775784>>33775604I'm glad it helped. Without getting too deep into it, just embrace the frustration, spar with and eventually learn to subdue the heinous shit your own mind will say to you, just keep pressing forward, and eventually learn to laugh at the absurdity of the whole thing. At some point you will feel it, what I call "presence." That's being able to make eye contact with people effortlessly when you walk in a room, that's body language made out of steel (no nervous phantom "where does my hand go?" type shit), that's a smile from a joke you're already formulating in your head about someone or something in the room, that's being outside your own head overall and in the moment. A little more on the mystical side to consider is this...I don't know if the world is truly what you make of it and you're always getting signals from women or whatever and just not noticing it or if somehow people have a sort of animal-sense that picks up on this shit, but when you have "presence" everything just flows more easily. It's something you can cultivate though seemingly at least in part by just standing in the fire until it stops burning. Keep in mind, I also don't go out smeared in dog shit or looking like a serial killer, so all of this assumes you at least have some sort of style or identity you've already put together. Some fat autist wearing a diaper will probably not get the same mileage other people would get.
Brazil is an easy country to pick up women, right? So the problem is me
https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/30495139/#30502365 Is this guy here? Just wanted to say thank you for putting me on to Red House Painters, they're one of my favourite bands now
I haven't forgotten you, doxxing kike. I will find out about you eventually
>>33778618Just wait until you listen to Sun Kil Moon (his song Dogs is actually incredibly relevent to this thread)
>>33778570I once met a BR girl and she told me where she lived they had parties where ur supposed to tonguekiss everyone as a greeting
>>33776072>switched fieldsso your whole life purpose and your actual llife do not alignthis is your biggest mistake
>>33777923thinking it's more complicated than that is the retard's trapit's literally the memethe more you complicate things the worse your resultsthe dumb assumptions are the ones you should pursue
>>33779695so what I'm getting here is this>be very good at something>make that your identity and purposeas the prerequisite to even get a woman to like youthen you would have to have women enter your lifewhich would be easy if you satisfy those requirementswhy?if you're good at something and make it your purpose, you will generate proof and statuswith that comes social power positionsin social power posisitions you naturally meet peopleso the way most people think about it is this:>acquire a position of powerand that's itbut in reality the position of power comes from having at least one aspect of you in an elite levelWhat pick up artists who bang 300+ women in 5 years do is become elite level at picking up womennotice how that is also a skilland then they share what they learn and then people here parrot it.but they fail to realize where the results actually come fromand it's just being good at something
>>33779699It has nothing to to with simple or complex understandings, you're just flat out incorrect in your assumptions.
>>33763110what fitness classes should I take to meet women
How do you get over a oneitis?There is this girl at my work I’m basically obsessed with because she’s so lovely and warm and I’m bending over backwards to try and run into her so I can get to know her better but now she’s gone for an entire month and I’ve just given up but it’s like I don’t even think about other women because I walk around and see girls and they all look stuck up bitches and bimbos and I don’t want anything to do with themHELPPP
>>33780025pilates is where the young girls be going now
Can someone just give me an entire list of places to meet women save me the research. I'm tired of researching dumb ass reddit answers like Salsa classes and running clubs. No one is doing that shit. I'm running out of women at work to hit on
>>33780571the streets is the place with the most womenpublic places basicallyshops, shopping centers, clothing storesetc etcif you're solely focused on volume that's the only place where you're guaranteed constant new womenif you're focusing on a specific niche, then pick anything you like>sports (pick any sport that has teams)>language classes>cooking>parks>barsBut, the hottest women hang out where there's a lot of money being spent.The less money you spend the lower rate of hot women as a general rule:exclusive lounges, boats, high-end malls, etc etc.So first step be willing to spend a lot of money.
>>33778956Already have, and yeah I know kek
Try becoming a serial killer
>>33718118this adds up with my experienceon a few of my first dates we laughed and i saw signs of approach to kiss but i didn't take it because i was afraidand these dates ended with the "no chemistry" comment from the girlsjust to test it, i kissed the girl in the right moment on 2 other dates and the girls came alive much more than measking for nudes or pictures seems the next step in a long chat, so thanks for the advice[spoiler] also this all sounds very misognist or pickup artist which i feel on myself more and moreshould it not bother me that i become like that?[/spoiler]>>33766136this happened with me and my friends too brother, it feels really bad but don't worry about itit's just stress or alcohol, some even say the first nights are the hardest to get it upif you two are still dating then just don't fap and you will not be able to not get it up
Have you ever been with a woman who was so much more attractive than any of your exes that you realized how much time you wasted and get depressed?Also in the same vein just having one thought that she might be too good for you and how it spreads and creates a feedback loop and thusly causes you to make mistakes you had never even dreamed of making with aforementioned exes. It could also be that I was just always that way but as soon as I found a girl with confidence and self respect she saw my behavior and left. She both rose my confidence to new heights and crushed me to the bottom.All of the memories of her body were memories I thought I'd never have. Like absolute porn tier. I don't know if I should be happy or wish it never happened knowing I can't have her again and I may never get the equivalent again.
>>33781255if you did it once then you can do it again and even better.
>>33781390I haven't done it but could I still do it like anon did?
I'm gonna tell you the hardest thing you can do that is worth it with women. If you do this thing you will instantly be more of a chick magnet than what you are now.Here is the secret:BE FUCKING PATIENT
>>33782013Okay to be patient, but doing what? Nothing?
Is giving a girl the ick by being jealous/insecure unrecoverable? Even if you've been with them for years?
>>33782906It depends on the individual. Universally speaking, it's an uphill battle, though. You have to SHOW her that you're not jealous/insecure and the only way you can do that is with no contact. If that sounds difficult to you, that's exactly why sustaining no contact demonstrates it.
>>33782013For once I agree with you>>33782111It means don't be eager to see her/contact her/etc. Have a life outside of her.