>>33784775
Firstly I have to trust that you're not diseased, either physically or mentally.
Second, if I'm not horny then I don't care, and I don't really know the cycles of my arousal.
Third, be horny for me and be happy with yourself and don't shoot yourself in the foot by making a problem that you don't need to.

bump because i'm tired of hearing the obvious fucking redditor advice of "shower often and don't be a racist shut-in" like no shit
i want to know what the male equivalent of getting your tits out is

>>33784775
I won't read ATOGA escapees.

Women don't come on 4chan retard

>>33784994
>i want to know what the male equivalent of getting your tits out is
Playing with/taking care of a little kid. Like not in a creepy way but in a cute fun way, like really being invested in a game of catch with a toddler or gently rocking a crying baby to sleep. Seriously, if a kid feels safe around you, I'm probably going to feel safe around you as well, and I'm way more likely to respond to you being flirty with me.

>>33784994
It’s confidence.

>>33784775
Same values goals and beliefs, same humor, not being a retard or rapist, money, good genes. He won't be considered if he works min wage or has a weak jaw. Instant turn ons are voice and dressing office style.

My only question to women is can they name 1 man who has absolutely 0 mental health problems.

Same to be asked to men of naming 1 woman with absolutely 0 mental health problems.

Spoiler, there is none. Not a single human that walks the earth isn't plagued with some sort of mental illness.
It's a simple fact.

>>33787978
I don't have any because I am perfect.

>>33787978
woman here, theres a different between “mentally diseased” like the first reply said vs having mental problems. id dare a guy with depresion, anxiety, ocd, trauma, eating disorder etc. i wouldnt date a sicko who is clearly retarded on some level or is a porn addict

>>33788512
Ok that's fair and makes me feel better. I think the choice of words is insensitive/short sighted.
>>33788011
A GOLDEN GOD

>>33784775
You are trying to get an answer to a question that has been asked around since forever.

The only constant is being handsome, if you're pretty, you'll get plenty of girls, even if you're mentally incapable of maintaining a conversation. That's what I've observed through my entire life.

I have 10/10, 9/10 male friends that do nothing besides having a couple of old Instagram pictures, and still get tons of DMs request like they're fucking Leo DiCaprio... And believe me, their personality isn't vibrant, or confident, in many of them.

>>33784775
>Women, what makes men attractive to you?
If they're smart, witty, and a little broken so I feel the need to care for them. And cute, of course.

>How important is emotional connection?
Immensely. I've never been able to use dating apps specifically because I don't feel attraction at all to people I don't have an emotional connection with.

>Do you have any "Instant" turn-ons?
Being good with animals and children. Being thoughtful and perceptive about other people's needs without them telling you. Being kind of argumentative.

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>>33784775
it literally doesnt matter because women are so retarded that each and every one of them has totally distinct and nonsensical preferences, and in modern society they're given way too much choice. it's basically impossible to get a woman to like you even if you're handsome and well put together there are just too many variables to make any sort of general prediction about women's tastes. you either get out there and be an obsequious women-befriending faggot until one falls for you, or rape someone, or stay a virgin for the rest of your life. there is no non-degrading way to get a gf these days it's all about performing some faggoted circus dance for them that usually involves being a social butterfly faggot and making a lot of money with some faggoted 'career' like programming javascript and acting out the role of an ostensible 'nerd' who in reality fucking sucks at what he does but does it well enough and is loudmouthed enough about it to impress women.

incel for fucking life fuck women and everything they represent and stand for.

>what makes men attractive to you?
Being friendly, open and attentive and looking after people. Every time I change jobs I start crushing on some fat boomer just for showing me the ropes.
>How important is emotional connection?
I've also developed crushes on friends if we've become intimate enough to share secrets and have deeper conversations but this doesn't happen with just anyone. I've clicked with no more than 3 people in my lifetime. Women who click and befriend people easier probably won't be nearly as impressed by this.
>Do you have any "Instant" turn-ons?
No, I don't have sexual thoughts or feelings for men until I feel like I know and trust them.

1) my personal preference: leaner body, long hair, slightly nerdy look. Overall: Someone who looks healthy and has passions in life
2) Incredibly
3) lack of empathy

>>33788968
>each and every one of them has totally distinct and nonsensical preferences
I thought all women wanted the top 1-20% 6 feet 6 inches 6 figures swole big dick doctor though. Have incels split on this issue?

>>33784775
>what makes men attractive to you?
Friendliness, being funny and generally looking like he can take care of himself - last boyfriend I had was such a slob I had to remind him to shower on a daily basis, and if I didn't I had to deal with awful shitty BO.
>How important is emotional connection?
Very. I'm not the type to just go with the first hot guy I meet (though being physically attractive isn't a bad thing either), I need to feel a connection with a guy before I do anything with him.
>Do you have any "Instant" turn-ons?
It's kind of embarrassing but I genuinely do get turned on when I see a guy being cute with kids. Like parks are dangerous for me because if I see a guy playing with his daughter or something I start fantasizing about him, and I immediately feel shame because I don't want to be a homewrecking whore.

>>33789017
Lack of empathy is a turn on?

>>33789022
only truecel chuds think that because theyre so undeniably ugly in the first place. mentalcels like me know better.

>> 33789043
I read it as “turn-off” I might be retarded

>>33784775
hung in the extreme
ludicrous physique
fast car, either souped up vintage classic or high end stock contemporary
speedboat
guns
bitches and hos errywhere
slap a bitch
drug dealer
CEO
murderer
sociopath

>>33789038
you are the burliest dude in here

Women on 4chan are diseased already go back to atoga

>>33787904
Good advice, but also ywnbaw

>>33784775
Not a woman but I'm going to tell you right now the obvious truth that you choose to ignore:

LOOKS LOOKS LOOKS LOOKS LOOKSSSS!!!!!!!
WOMEN ARE THE MOST SUPERFICIAL BEINGS ON THIS PLANET, THEY SAY MEN ARE FOR FUCKING EVERYTHING - BUT THE TRUTH IS THEY ARE WAY MORE SELECTIVE, THEY ONLY GO FIT THE TOP DOG AND IGNORE AND DISMISS AND ARE DISGUSTED BY EVERYONE ELSE.

Have you ever felt like your life is the fucking Truman show when it comes to women?? Like they are ALL in on ignoring you. Brother this is the experience I've and many others on this site had in our lives. I was obese class 2 in January, then throughout this year I went down to class 1, and now I'm in "overweight" tier, which is one above healthy.

THE CHANGE IN TREATMENT IS IMMACULATE

now I'm noticed, I get SMILES, I get excited interactions!!
I get to be fucking noticed.
It's horrible!! It's an absolutely horrible realization about women, but it is also a FACT OF LIFE.
So at this point, do you ignore the facts? Or do you act??
The choice is ours brother

And when I'm fit, every creepy interaction will now be adorable and desired. Every mistake will be cute instead of humiliating. They'd want to take CARE of you instead of not even NOTICING you.

Trust me brother, as a man - you have to work SO MUCH HARDER than the women, you can see it ALL around you with fat chicks getting all the attention when they deserve NOTHING.
Broken BPDemons or emotionally bankrupt girls freak the fuck out of men, ruining them mentally because the guy wants the pussy

Don't settle brother. Start eating healthy, start going out for hikes, start working out eventually. I did all of the above. And I'm starting to feel worth it for the attention that I get from girls now. What people call confidence is now given to me from the outside, which makes it grow inside. Don't be fooled. You can't be confident unless you had confident and guiding parents in the beginning of your life.

>>33784775
1. Makes me laugh a lot, does some kind of art he’s passionate about, treats the people around him with kindness and wants to improve the lives of the people around him
2. Very, if she’s over 30.
3. Getting my head pat, a guy holding my hand and being too embarrassed to look at me while he does

>>33790410
If you don't admit you need to be physically attracted to him, you're either a liar or an uggo.

Masculinity

>>33787856
This board is full of mid women who come here and act all matronly as if their dogshit opinion ever mattered. They tend to have a small social circle so they have nobody to give their worthless "counseling" and advice in the real world so they come here instead to feel better about themselves and give broken men their dogshit normie advice.

>>33784994
For me is muscles and dressing good, like fuck boy attire

>>33784832
>Firstly I have to trust that you're not diseased, either physically or mentally.

WTF does this even mean?

>>33788968
dude you need serious help or maybe go touch some grass

for me, it's the face makes or breaks it. sub5 facially is a dealbreaker, though it's perfectly fine if he's not a looksmatch, especially if he has high alternative appeal.
needs to have hair, moderate receding hairline is fine for a short term thing.
don't give a fuck about body, though obese & roided up guys usually aren't up to my standards facially.
i have to feel reasonably sure that he won't kill me or otherwise use his biological physical advantage to harm me.
personality wise, don't be insufferable to be around. if you're miserable, at lesst be miserable in a fun way. social ineptitude can be endearing, as long as the self-pity is kept to a minimum

>>33791207
>STDs
>mental issues that'll cause you to kill someone or beat me up and messed up stuff like that

what's "emotional connection" between genders supposed to be? the whole reason i'll never lose my virginity is bc i'd want a male to be honest and gentle and genuinely like being around me like were friends.
but for whats physically attractive, basically picture uncle farmer dad ben (long hair is a plus tho, the longer the better)
also luigi mangione and james madison are the other hottest males imo.
also, i wish males would grow sideburns. especially bald males would look better that way.

>>33784994
it's getting your tits out. theres a reason we like tall guys. pecs in the face.

>>33787856
i do because i got banned from reddit

ALSO DEEP VOICES ARE THE BEST.

>>33787904
>Playing with/taking care of a little kid

Kek. That reminds me how a friend told me how he once acquired three fuckbuddies in one day by simply playing football with a random kid while at the park with a large mixed group. They all proceeded to hit on him after that.

>>33788968
>it literally doesnt matter
But thats great
>women are so retarded that each and every one of them has totally distinct and nonsensical preferences
Thats what makes it amazing. You're not responsible for whether a woman likes you or not at.All. So you can just nto give a fuck. Getting rejected doesn't say anything about you as a person, its irrelevant and just happens.
Just don't be fat ,don't listen to incels and show women that you want to bang. Thats it.,

>>33790274
THings you could have done in the time it took you to write down all that cope:

>clean yourself
>clean your sorroundings
>do the dishes
>do a workout routine
>go for a walk
>practice an instrument
>talk to friends
>hit on a random woman for the lolz to combat your anxiety and reduce it

And so on and so much more.
Seriously, if you put the energy you waste on internet debates and cooking up fresh copes to blameshift into hitting the gym and getting a life, you'd get laid in no time.

>>33787904
>>33788634
>>33789038
Do women seriously find guys playing with kids attractive? I figured most women would assume a dude interacting with a child is a pedophile or something.

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>have a life

>>33797117
I'm not a woman and probably are none of those posters either, and of course a grown adult by himself trying to play with random kids - but if it's someone with his nieces/nephews or someone who works in daycare or at schools and isn't an obvious homosexual, all it does is it shows is the guy is not one of those Turbo Autists who thinks that fatherhood ends once he's nutted inside of a woman and will do the zoomer equivalent of sitting on the couch and watching TV (playing video games on his gamer chair) for 18 years while neglecting most aspects of his kid's life because he thinks it's the female's job to raise kids - and then act confused and surprised when the kid(s) grow up with no attachment to him.

>>33797089
I wrote that on the train on my way to a 6 hour long hike in nature, I can assure you my time is not wasted, but I do appreciate you looking out.
Going to start gym this week, so far lost 18 kg (39.5 pounds) this year, and I have exactly the same amount to go (another 18kg or 39.5 pounds). But I've only changed my diet since January + went to a LOOOOT of hiking.

but yeah good advice overall. I REALLY hope I get laid eventually, I'm starting to look better.. but still fat. BMI is just now shifting from obese class 1 to overweight (current BMI 30.4)

>>33797211
Glad to hear that then.

>BMI is just now shifting from obese class 1 to overweight (current BMI 30.4)

Yeah, then its no surprise that you aren invisible. I went from lean to a BMI of like 29 during a depressive episode, and it was like someone flipped a switch. Theres nothing worse you can do to your physcial attractiveness than being overweight. On top it also ruins your face because the fat deposited there will make it look worse.

Now I'm back to a normal BMI and ist anight and day difference already. In my experience, being lean was another huge step up, but torturing myself into a sixpack scultped gym body was the point of diminishing returns, not much more female attraction for a lot of effort.

Stop obsessing over looks, you have no basis for judging your actual physical attractiveness until you have peeled your actual you out of the shell of fat its currently hidden in.

Frankly, I think the lowkey "fat acceptance for men" (ohhh, but having a little gut as a man is not a problem) that has been going for generations has done immense damage.

>>33784775
Go back
>>33794791

>>33797354
thanks so much for sharing man.
Yeah exactly, It's so different isn't it?
such a day and night difference.
I also had a time in my life where I became super thin due to a physical condition
It's the only time I got a date from a dating app, to this day my only date. Got it from Tinder. And not for a lack of trying like I've been trying on dating apps for like 10 months. Deleted them a couple months ago. Once in a while I reinstall, just to delete again. Had bumble for 3 weeks, deleted it a couple days ago because 0 matches. Now installed hinge yesterday, same shit I won't have any matches.
I think you're right that there's a threshold of, peeling yourself out of your fat shell, correct analogy there. Something beyond that would have to be like, exceptionally athletic.
But I'm willing to do that not just because of the looks, but also because of the actual health benefits of being fit. I want to be fit and stay fit so that I can hopefully live long and comfortably.
But yeah man. isn't it so terrible how the face changes?? you look SO much older with fat on you. What a big shame. I'd fuck a fat chick but I don't even get opportunity with those. Meh.
I'm getting there. Good on you for going back to nromal. Also I'm in the Netherlands where everyone is ATLEAST healthy weight as a baseline, so It's like, super uncommon here to be overweight. I'm an outlier.
Are you from Germany?

>>33797620
>I also had a time in my life where I became super thin due to a physical condition

I think thats the other side of the coin. Being scrawny,/skinny beats being fat but its also not terribly attractive to most women. Ironically, they seem to be into the healthy male body with a reasonable bit of muscle and no excess of fat. Almost as if it was naturally the kind of body a man has at peak physical condition without tons of fat or excessive clumps of muscle to lug around while having enough mass to still be bigger than a woman.

Once in a while I reinstall, just to delete again. >Had bumble for 3 weeks, deleted it a couple days ago because 0 matches. Now installed hinge yesterday, same shit I won't have any matches.

Those apps are all run by the same company (Match.inc.) who saves your data even after deletion so you wil get the same results across all apps once your hidden "trial phase" has run out. As these apps work by hooking you into a dopamine cycle of swiping, they will initially show you to a few women, then hide your profile from anyone who isn't an uggo. This serves to crush your self esteem until you cough up the dough and pay for the highest tier membership at which point your profile will be shown again.
Ever since investor money ran out and they needed to monetize, these apps are directly working against you as the user. As if being certified sausage fests with an eas 80/20 ration of men to women wasn't enough. Do yourself a favour and stay away as far as possible.
>Are you from Germany?
Yes, how did you guess?

>>33784775
>Women, what makes men attractive to you?
Looks, humor, attitude, intelligence
>How important is emotional connection?
It is the most important thing. I need to feel emotionally safe with him, like I can dump everything out without holding back and he can be my rock.
Do you have any "Instant" turn-ons?
Physically being large and strong looking, typical masculine traits like face/body hair. Being extremely funny and witty. Men who have that natural leader energy around them. Being self assured and confident and capable.

>>33797832
>Physically being large and strong looking, typical masculine traits like face/body hair. Being extremely funny and witty. Men who have that natural leader energy around them. Being self assured and confident and capable.

Women always say this grandiose shit as if they guys they are into are exlucsively the Chaddiest Chads to ever Chad in this world. Then they introduce their bf, who is an average standard issue office drone who maybe plays Tennis as a hobby or some shit.
Why do they do this?

>>33797963
retard, you just admitted that the male narrative is bullshit

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>>33791250
what will change if i touch grass?

>>33797728
>Do yourself a favour and stay away (from dating apps) as far as possible.
Yeah you're right man. I've had hinge again since 2 days ago and I think I'll already uninstall it. I'm done with this narcissistic injury of being shown beautiful girls as if served on a plate for me, when in reality I'm more likely to get a gf off somewhere random like 4chan than I am from a dating app (speaking from experience xdd)
So fuck those things I'll uninstall it today

>All the stuff you said about being skinny and naturally peak
Exactly dude. 100% correct.
In nature it's how you would look if you had to work for food and water and shelter, not roided but not skinny, just athletic fit. This is why I'll aim for looking and being natural, I'll still drink my proteins because it's hard to get them otherwise, but other than that I'll just be doing a healthy mix of cardio and resistance training on all body muscle groups.
It's really like the radar we have for detecting pretty women, I think women have it even stronger. Like they are super selective and if you pass their initial filter then you're cute instead of creepy for everything you do. You just have to qualify, and everything after that (personality, money, other physical attributes this specific girl values) is on top of that

>How did you guess I'm from Germany?
You wrote "ist" in your initial post, and I figured it can't be a fat-finger mistake because t is very far from s, so you must be German, glad I was right haha. Based advice German bro. I hope you also have or will have success soon <3

>>33798989
You'll stop posting tranime.

>>33784775
dude, wtf is "emotional connection" supposed to mean

>>33788968
Funny part is is that I've gotten a decent amount of pussy and every chick was different in the way I went about doing so, so you're not wrong. It may come off as incelish, but women are so fickle with so many choices that can change that you may as well just cast a wide net and go with whatever method works.

>>33797065
That's because kids are like turbo candy to women. If he were younger I'd definitely use my nephew to score strange pussy.

>>33797117
Kids are a cheat code to women. So long as you're not coming off a creepy pedo, most women would absolutely fuck you if you were good with kids. Why do you think male kindergarten teachers aren't a thing? It's not cause ppl are worried about the kids, its because the dude would probably give the entire class extra siblings from how much he'd be getting attention from single moms, tired taken mom's, babysitters, sisters, aunts, etc.

>>33799341
tranime is the most meaningless brainrot term especially if used in reference to a masterpiece like crest of the stars...

>>33784832
>don't shoot yourself in the foot by making a problem that you don't need to.

Yeah guys, don't make a needless problem when she thirsts after other dudes. Don't shoot yourself in the foot by telling her she hasn't thrown you a bone in 3 months.

>>33802193
It literally just means you won't slap her or some shit if she's annoying or if you're tired. Emotional connection for women equals "he won't kick my ass for talking about my day"

>>33804427
>Yeah guys, don't make a needless problem when she thirsts after other dudes.
Nigger wtf are you talking about?

>>33804428
>Emotional connection for women equals "he won't kick my ass for talking about my day"
There's no way you're a day over 14

>>33804430
Just saying that no two people's idea of making a 'needless problem' are the same.

>>33804432
Come to the front of the class then. Tell us what emotional connection is. Tell is what it is for a woman and how a man can properly show it.

>>33804436
They know exactly what you're talking about, they're just being a retarded faggot. "Creating needless problems" is just womanese of dont do anything stupid that would make be reconsider picking you over the other guys who wanted to fuck me.

>>33804428
did u notice my name? i'm a woman. but the reason why i refuse to lose my virginity is because i dont want brain damage from being choked.
if only moids actually were gentle...
got kys in the captcha this time lol

>>33804493
I dont care about names nor do I care about your loss of virginity. Emotional connection does not mean the same for guys as it does you so its a AKA for the non threat of physical or emotional violence

>>33804440
>Tell is what it is for a woman and how a man can properly show it.
Sure. I'll start by saying "Oh yes, I'm so emotionally connected to by bf because he doesn't hit me when I talk to him" is the most retarded incel shit I've ever heard. It's surreal levels of disconnected from reality.

Some of the ways women feel emotionally connected is when their partners show they're listening - getting tickets to their favorite play they always talk about, cooking a fun meal she mentioned she'd like to try. Sitting and listening to your partner is great but in real life, long term relationships just nodding and saying "uh huh" doesn't cut it. If you don't show that you actually absorb and assimilate information its no different than talking to a stump. Another way is sex and physical intimacy, of course. In psychology they call these "garbage moments". Some of the times people feel the closest to each other is through simple, mundane acts - touching her hips as she does dishes, kissing her cheek while she works on something, laughing together over something stupid while you drive to the store. They seem like small, meaningless gestures but all of these tiny moments of connectivity add up and build into strong emotional bonds. The concept of "garbage moments" is also used in the context of analyzing bonds between parents and children. Sometimes the most lasting memories of childhood are of very simple, every day moments.

Another way to emotionally connect is basic emotional mirroring, like monkeys do. Being sad for her when she's sad, being angry for her when she's angry, celebrating for her when she celebrates. In long term relationships women aren't looking for someone to just talk at. They want to feel like you're a team - that your wins and losses in life are shared experiences, not just a thing she goes through while you watch.

That's just a few. I can keep going if you like?

>>33804436
When the anon said "don't make a needless problem" means don't project your insecurities. That's why the sentence started with "be happy with yourself". I have no clue where you got "thirsting after other dudes" from that.

>>33804508
all you moids do is whine about women refusing to have sex.
that's not what emotional connection is no women. what emotional connection means to women is something that does not happen between genders.
but wtf does emotional connection mean to moids?

>>33804597
I was using a random example. Because "projecting" and "needless problem" are amorphous, purposefully vague terms used to describe anything a person might find inconvenient.

>>33804664
is to women* dang it

>>33804664
Men generally prioritize sex over emotional connection. That's what you're not understanding.

From a man's perspective, achieving an emotional connection with a chick is the gauntlet you have to run in order to fuck. From a chick's perspective, sex is the incentive you offer a man for achieving an emotional connection with you.

The friction happens when both sexes start to resent each other for not wanting the same thing for the same reason.

>>33804735
so you do mean emotional connection in the female sense.
in which case, moids do not emotionally connect with women.
i am very aware that moids are exclusively motivated by horniness, hunger, and hatred of women. thats why i refuse to lose my virginity
enjoy your horniness epidemic, retard

>>33804784
Everything is subjective. The only way for you to get satisfactory answers is to experience these things for yourself. Surveying 4channers isn't going to do anything for you.

You seem to revile the users here, while simultaneously being curious about their experiences. What's that about?

>>33804795
you are evil, and i am bored. that's it. it's not crazy to be curious about something terrible, quite the opposite.
no, not everything is subjective. fuck anyone who believes that nihilistic bullshit.
if i "experience these things for myself" my life will be ruined.

>>33804816
Why am I evil? Why will your life be ruined if you get laid?

Just asking questions. You seem very intense about everything. Doing okay?

>>33804829
in short, you are evil because you choose not to control yourself.
i know you're teasing me, but if i start dating:
-the course of my life will be built on lies
-i will probably get an std
-the sex will be unpleasant and probably hurt like hell
-i will get brain damage from choking
-i will get assaulted
-i will get cheated on
-i will mold my life around someone who wants the worst for me
-you will blame me, even though you told me to lose my virginity

how am i intense? unfortunately, it's literally biologically impossible for me to hate you even remotely as much as you hate me.

>>33804864
I don't hate you man, I'm just trying to get a feel for where you're at. Personally I don't think this stuff is as serious as you're making it out to be. We're all going to die eventually, you know?

Fuck around, fall in love, get your heart broken, experience the highs and lows of being alive. It's all part of the experience. That's my take anyway.

>>33784775
"Optimal partner"

>>33784775
Thin/ healthy/ friendly/ cute

>>33788634
Man, here's to hoping I could find someone like this even just to fall asleep with at night. You've given me hope, thank you.

>>33788634
>Just be a stereotypical dad
Makes sense ig

>>33804864
Life must suck to have such a victimization fetish. You're not the only person who goes through shit, pussy

>>33804664
Please understand not all of us are those people, nor are all of us simps. Some of us are just sincere and genuine, and looking for reality among this sea of pushed media.

>>33804735
This is untrue. Both are important, but none moreso than trust and an intimate connection, when seeking an actual partner for life.

>>33797117
Remember that 99% it's about how you look while doing it. If you're even moderately in shape, dress appropriate to your physique and have the "confident look", women will change the way they look at you from creepy to manly. The hardest part is the confidence. We autists/borderline have to fake it, it takes a lot of effort.

>>33804920
all moids hate women, and you admit this.
not everyone is as lucky as you. if i fuck around, i risk literally everything. i can't magically overpower a moid. i have to take my life seriously.
either way, i would gain literally nothing by having sex, since moids make sex excruciating on purpose.
>>33788968
kill yourself btw. more proof that all moids will commit rape if they think they can get away with it.
also, you admitted that women don't all want the same thing, you fucking retard.
>>33804949
you literally think that you're a victim because you dont have a government issued sex-slave. i used to know someone who was raped by her dad, and im supposed to feel bad for her dad because he lost custody of her. males are fucking vermin.
>>33804954
guy above you ( >>33804735 ) admits that moids are not genuine. moids lie for sex and the sex isnt any good because moids are worse than worthless and would rather torture a woman than eat pussy.
all moids are the same, and moids admit this. you only get triggered when a woman agrees that all moids are the same

>>33806127
the moid horniness epidemic is caused by moids refusing to shut the fuck up and be like women

>>33784775
remind me of my oneitis, not much else. but this is just for pure visual attraction, like just noticing a stranger.

can femals confirm it depends on where they are in their menstrual cycle?

>>33806532
Men are so obsessed with what amounts to menstrual blood, maybe they all just desire to return to the womb. And women are supposed to be attracted to this baby behavior that all men have which is also amusing.

>>33784994
>i want to know what the male equivalent of getting your tits out is

Its all genetic stuff or being fit. So having a big dick and that outlining in your sweatpants, or having big forearms. Having chest hair but also being fit, smelling nice, dressing well can for sure help.Beyond that i have no idea.

>>33806532
Ive actually had a theory for a while the only times women seem to lead me on the hardest is when they are ovulating or something because ive had women show serious interest, we are about to go out on a date or go back to my place, flirting is heavy then something comes up and boom they are gone forever. I never said anything weird, never acted in any way that would cause them to ghost immediately but it makes me think maybe a cycle ended and then suddenly they lost interest because hormones werent guiding them.

>>33806585
Maybe she thought you were going to ghost her so she did it first, trying to avoid getting hurt. Maybe she didn't think you were serious. Maybe she thought you were out of her league.

>>33806589
All very possible. But those thoughts are ones that would come out of not being horny but thinking too much. If she was ovulating she wouldnt think that, if though a day or two later her cycle ended then suddenly she would think that. There is a chance though i might be intimidating since most of my female friends tell me about their boyfriends and these guys are all manchildren except for one who i get along with. I am doing fairly well for myself, i have a clean home, i have thousands invested and in savings, is there aspects i can improve on, absolutely, theres a ton. But compared to a lot of guys under 30 i am doing fairly well. I really shouldnt be having this level of difficulty. Like ive been single for ten years now. That is insane.

>>33806532
i get hornier when im ovulating and luteal phase. sometimes being early on my period makes we want cuddles more desperately than usual. those are the only differences i notice.
>>33806548
it's pecs, you fucking moron.

>>33806605
>it's pecs, you fucking moron.

ohh noo i missed one muscle group. Its basically what i said though, getting fit. Fitness helps a ton. If I can advise anyone here to do its get fit, exercise, worst case scenario you feel better about yourself.

Not a woman but judging by what they told me:
>be over 6 foot
>be muscular
>be handsome
Thats literally it. Let me know how that turns out for you..

>>33806616
you said everything except pecs, dude. why do u think tank tops are hot? why do you think tall guys are hot?
besides, moids say that abs are attractive because moids are bi and have different tastes. but i feel like moids with abs are slightly leaner than ideal, and the real sexiest muscle is pecs

>>33798090

The entire "male narrative"is based on mid women banging on about how incredibly chaddy a guy needs ot be to get access to their incredibly high status and truly very valuable pussy. See here: >>33806659

What retards don't get is that its just bullshit women say , because they'd never admit that they just fuck guys who are as mid as themselves. Women also talk up their bfs an dth emen they fuck to no end, because they derive a large part of their self worth from what kind of man they are able to score.

>>33806755
I can see that. And the tall guy thing seems to be because women think a tall guy is better at protecting them when most tall guys are not fit and are twigs. Obviously it's gonna be hell if that guy does get fit but why would he? He's immediately seen as attractive just from height. It's so OP.

>>33806764
im glad you admitted that moids are full of shit, but if women were the ones who are desperate for sex, women would be the ones whining about a "horniness epidemic". instead, you're the ones acting like victims because you don't have literal sex slaves.
also, MOIDS are the ones who yap about 666. it's divorced from the truths that women tell.

here you are, whining about the fact that women DON'T all have the same tastes.

>>33806798
moids do not protect women. moids are the danger, which is the biggest reason for the moid horniness epidemic.
the height thing is about pecs. pecs are hot. it's not that fucking complicated.

>>33806798
short buff guys > tall skinny guys. duh.

>>33806935
Tall guys by default don't have pecs lmao also idk where you live but in the US right now is literally the safest time to ever be a woman in human history. Not only that only a specific race of men are a danger to women. If we are talking white or Asians the danger is practically zero. And it makes sense since those two races countries regularly have nudist stuff going on or have their women openly dressing like whores while rape and assault statistics are absolutely plummeting. Only dudes you see catcalling or losing their shit around women in real life are people who werent born and raised here. Like Indians.

I actually think the "moid horniness epidemic" is actually just Indians mass immigrating to western nations and you women can't split hairs on culture or race.

>>33806940
Agreed. Issue is I rarely see this. For a woman under like 25 their brain shut off when a tall guy is in their presence

>>33806955
"tall guys by default don't have pecs" hence why short buff moids are hotter than tall skinny moids...
moids admit that "all men will commit rape if they think they can get away with it"
also, whether or not you want to admit it, choking causes brain damage and nonconsensual choking is evil.
an american woman is pretty much guaranteed safety as long as she doesn't concern herself with the moid horniness epidemic.
the vast majority of violence is committed by moids. it is not a matter of race.
do you think white men or indian women are more likely to go around gangraping women and justifying it by saying that women should stop going outside?
"Only dudes you see catcalling or losing their shit around women in real life are people who werent born and raised here." Yeah no, this is just straight up nonsense.

I'm under 20 LMFAO. But I'm not losing my virginity to anybody because I have learned what moids are really like

>>33784994
tldr of the thread is 5 girls saying exactly that + "emotional connection" and plays with kids.

>>33807102
>and plays with kids.
obvious bait, guys who play with kids are going to be called pedos

>>33807134
I just assume thats code for "chad with his nephew tossing a ball with a sweaty v-cut tshirt on" not them thinking of an average guy just going up to a random kid.

Either way great job on the advice gals really living up to our expectations.

>>33787978
Yes but many people live in denial and keep it to themselves til the grave for the most part, and this is frankly way more enjoyable to be around than someone who wants to talk about feeling bad things.

>>33807085
>it is not a matter of race.

It absolute is, this is how I know you are actually a woman. If a certain race has issues with impulse control and has a culture of rape they are gonna rape more often.

>do you think white men or indian women are more likely to go around gangraping women and justifying it by saying that women should stop going outside?

I don't know your point here but I would say not that they should be able to walk around at night no problem. And in non shithole places they can. And the way we achieve that is through deportations and segregation from people who don't follow the basic understanding of not raping women and children.

>Yeah no, this is just straight up nonsense.

In 2025 if you seriously think a white guy under like 60 is still catcalling you are out of your mind. Younger dudes are netoriously avoidant at approaching women and you are seriously saying they are catcalling?

>I'm under 20 LMFAO

I can tell, you get your world views from the internet. You literally don't know what you are talking about and have a ton to learn lmao

I love a man that’s passionate about what he does. He doesn’t have to make millions. I make my own money so I don’t need someone to take care of me. But when I meet someone that loves their job and constantly wanting to get better or learn more, it’s so hot.

>>33807315
I wish I could meet women like you irl because I'm like this but I get constantly blow tf out of the water by total loser guys. Just pathetic failures. Makes me wonder what's wrong with me that I have to improve and they don't.

>>33804664
Yeah yeah you retarded cunt. My views will hardly be swayed by some femoid dipshit posting in mutiple posts cause that's all the attention you'll get.

>>33807102
omg the moid equivalent of getting your tits out is getting your pecs out. stop being a bastard.
>>33807134
for what it's worth, i don't want kids so guys who are "good with kids" dont attract me at all. also if a moid is talking to a girl, he's 100% trying to fuck her.
>>33807150
i'm not attracted to guys who are good with kids because i want nothing to do with children. i refuse to lose my virginity because moids are violent. go on and admit it, as you often do. quit conveniently ignoring me, especially because i have extremely basic tastes.
>>33807274
all races commit rape all the time, but rape is almost always committed by moids.
all moids will commit rape if they think they can get away with it. you admit this.
"after investigating ourselves, we have found no wrongdoing"
i get my worldviews on the internet because if you talk to a moid in-person, he will always lie.
you also implied that i'm over 25 because of how much i like buff guys which is NUTS.
>>33807391
moids are the ones who beg for sex. you also justify rape by saying "B BUT WOMEN ARE MEAN TO ME ON THE INTERNET SO YOUCANT BLAME ME FOR RAPING THEM IM JUST A FISHERMAN STOP BLAMING ME FOR THINGS I DO"

kys. you know damn well that you are worse than worthless and nobody will miss you

>>33794787
Marry me

>>33807715
Interesting reply. I can tell by the way you write you are fat which explains all the anger.

What the fuck is a moid

>>33808119
and yet you are the ones who beg me for sex.
>>33808152
you

>>33808339
Why would i beg an angry fat chick for sex?

>>33808583
because moids are exclusively motivared by horniness, hunger, and hatred of women.

>>33808632
Are you a bot? I have seen posts that sound like you on other threads and its almost comedic the caricature you have created for men. Its so wacky and over the top i have to assume there is other problems in your life beyond men if you are a real person. Go resolve them, being this angry and generalizing to 50% of the population isnt normal

>>33808645
god, you moids claim that all women hate moids. how hard can it be to understand that i mean every word i say?

moids generalize THEMSELVES. i only know that you are all the same because you admit it

>>33808645
genuine question. why would someone make a bot to say unpopular things on 4chan?

>>33808645
but ffs there was a thread last night on r9k that was just moids admitting that they want to commit rape but are too scared.
moids themselves say "all men will commit rape if they think they can get away with it" so why do you get triggered when we believe you?

>>33808645
Nah she's a dipshit tourist that got kicked off reddit so now she's rage coping on every post here. Just ignore her, she seems to be more or less arguing with herself than you.

>>33810239
if thats a problem, your gender should stop banning people for hurting your feelings.

>>33804735
The problem is that wanting an emotional connection before sex is normal, healthy and moral, while faking an emotional connection to get to fuck someone is blatantly and unmistakably corrupt and immoral.

>>33810404
utter truth.
also, based digits.

>>33810404
all moids do that. millionth reason why i stay virgin, but thats my personal choice

>>33784775
Men are like wild animals, they're cool to look at sometimes but I'd never have one in my house where they just make a mess of things. They're also embarrassing to talk to and I can't take their whining seriously. Being that controlled by your penis is degrading and idk why you guys aren't more ashamed of it.
Men are only admirable if they're hot (like 1/100) or really competent and excited about something useful (no girl give a f about your ww2 or gun sperg rants)

>>33810611
not a lot of moids are super hot but theres plenty of cute ones.

also, moids are motivated by horniness, hunger, and hatred of women. They only PRETEND to have interests. i wish a moid would nerd out to me, but thats another reason why i refuse to lose my virginity :(

>>33787904
So I need to approach strangers and show them videos of me playing with my sister and say see I’m good with kids ? That shit doesn’t work, next.

>>33788968
This, also being almost 7 feet tall and women don’t show interest in me, they literally avoid eye contact with me so I can’t start conversations with them and I tried shouting “hey excuse me” at one and they ignore me so I look like a freak yelling at a girl. So it’s just not possible for us, we were cursed to be born males on top of that white males (the most evil according to foids).

>>33810645
Lol I had a fatass baldy for a bf (felt bad for him because he said he was heckin lonely... never again) and the only time he was exciting was when he was sperging about his research
Also fyi never ever give nerds a chance, they're super sneaky about their motivations so it's extra disgusting when they slip up like he did.

>>33810666
Some of these trannies are way too mentally ill I see. Nobody hates you except yourself, while you seem to violently hate women. This mental illness is always sad to witness ngl.

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>>33810645
Why are you so obsessed with choking? I don't want to choke you. There are lots of men who don't want to choke you.

In fact, my first real sexual experience consisted of a woman choking ME while making out, and pulling my hair and shit. I wasn't a fan of it.

Also, men are infinitely less likely to give you an STD because most gen Z and younger men/boys simply aren't fucking. So there's no point in worrying about that sort of thing. If you're worried about maladjusted weirdos with violent sexual tendencies, just avoid them through dating/personality assessment. Dating isn't "How do you do? Shall we fuck in the backroom of this Publix?"

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>>33810930
Also, so many of the femanons ITT will date a guy who doesn't wipe his ass, doesn't have a job, (or if he does he's a piece of shit), a guy who chokes/slaps/whatevers you without consent, are uncompromisingly addicted to porn, are bald, literally obese, or generally unpleasant, and then have the gall to throw it on all men. Then you'll turn around and say shit like "Oh, but I like when guys are liek super sociopathic rawr x3!" Like fuck off. This is why men are so paralyzed, they're taught to be respectful, then the respectful men are too afraid to get close because of the social consequences. Then you're left with the low conscientiousness morons that you all seem to have experience dating.

>>33810942
My autistic terminally shy 4chan bf who was afraid to approach and get close turned out to be an unemployed abusive dingleberry man thoughever.
Also men universally score lowly on conscientiousness.

>>33811039
how did he turn out unemployed. did he just lie? for how long could he keep that facade up?

>>33810684
i'm not giving any moids a chance, but it cant hurt to know, so thanks.

i wonder why nerds seem to hate women the most. i used to think it would be the opposite

>>33811157
Idk man
He went on and on about being a male feminist and then one day confessed to me that he was angry some students were sunning in bikinis on one of the uni lawns

>>33810930
nah, i'm not buying that. all moids choke women during sex.

i'm obsessed with it because it's the main reason i can't lose my virginity. it causes brain damage.

you moids say that "men are simple creatures who only want food and sex" if so, why do you care if someone chokes you??

moids can get stds from escorts.

moids do not have personality, and you whine about women who try to assess personalities. besides, moids are fake asf. they always pretend not to hate women even though all of them do.

i already know that moids choke during sex because they brag about it. the only way i could further prove it is by getting choked.

>>33810942
i'm a virgin. i know that moids choke during sex because they admit it. ffs last night there was a thread on r9k that was just moids talking about how it's their "duty" to commit rape. and you wonder why i hate yall so much.

it's always moids trying to justify nonconsensual choking when i bring it up.

>>33811174
moids are crazy baka

>>33811178
Why are you basing your opinion of men from /r9k/? Are you retarded? /r9k/ is full of unironic incels and basement dwellers with momcest fantasies and rape fantasies. Not to mention the legions of brownies from countries where rape is considered normal and even obligatory. If you’re not a bot I genuinely need you to widen your horizons a bit.

>>33811178
Both of these are me btw. And no, I’m telling you the truth. A lot of people only choke because they’re conditioned to think it’s hot or are women who were conditioned to like it. Plenty of men and women don’t like choking or being choked. Again, are you off your meds or something? Or underage?

>>33811174
thats the big slip? wat

i dont fully understand it yet so please help me out here. i´ve been to the "worst" boards 4chan has to offer, all the infamous vile shit.
why is it that /adv/ seems to be the most hostile cesspool out of all of them?

>>33804714
>are amorphous, purposefully vague terms
nta but they're not at all you're just a sperg lol

>>33811471
Duh
Seething at people for existing in a way you don't like is deranged

look like my old crush (he looks a bit like dale from king of the hill)

>>33810322
My gender? Lol you probably got banned by a woman you retarded cunt. I can tell you're terminally online for how much you're just a sheer pain in the ass. The type of bitch that needs to get punched irl. I'm sorry your father never slapped you in the mouth for talking too much

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>>33804784
>moids are exclusively motivated by horniness, hunger, and hatred of women.
If only life were truly that easy.

>>33811196
i hated moids before i started using 4chan. all moids are the same, i know it because yall BRAG about it.

>>33811209
cap. the only moids who dont choke are virgins

>>33811617
my dad whooped me with the belt. sure as hell didnt stop me from hating him, nor do his "visions", nor does his confession that he wants to pimp me out

there are very few women on reddit

>>33811711
what else is needed to explain male behavior, jackass? are you a fucking troll?

>>33797117
lmao wtf is wrong with you man

>>33787978
I'm a tranny and I name myself, checkmate.

>>33797211
hey dude good job! that's good work!

>>33811711
Get the fuck out of here roastie, god I hate the new wave of bpdemons. Sorry what is yours motivated by makeup game and frauding?

>>33811536
and pretty common. not saying that he is right, since he is bald and fat he is probably just frustrated that he would not dare to do the same, so he seethed about it.
dunno, seems a bit odd that this "the slip" because if this constitutes a big deal for you i´d love to see that paradise you live in. people are weird, afraid and lash out all the time.

>>33811988
>troll accuses others of trolling
woah this is genius

>>33810828
The other day I accidentally bumped into a fat bitch and she thought I was flirting with her and avoided eye contact with me. Like the bitch thinks I’m desperate for her lard ass. Another woman showed interest in me so I invited her over, she ghosted me. So I confronted her about it asking if she thought I wanted sex she said yes, I told her I would have said that because I’m direct and thought she wanted to be friends, she ghosts me again after that. Fuck these whores.

>>33813348
genuinely wtf makes you think im a troll? the fact that my dad claims to have visions?
>>33813715
moids are the ones who constantly beg for sex, somehow women are the whores

>>33814638
Lots of fat females aren’t virgins but most men like me are virgin and I’m not even fat

>>33815138
a lot of yall are lying, and either way, youre not entitled to a sex slave

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>>33806448
why would i rape you i literally said incel for life. i wont go anywhere near you bitch, don't worry. another woman demonstrating so plainly that she can't read.

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>>33791207
It means they don't want you to have your own issues because they're going to be a victim of their past and expect your shoulder to cry on.

Literally every woman that was interested in me threw their trauma dumps at me like I'm supposed to give a shit or like I dont have my own. Fuck off lmao

>>33815414
I don’t want a slave I want an 18 year old virgin

>>33816562
you are lying. moids admit that "all men will commit rape if they think they can get away with it"
you moids keep saying i shouldve been raped when i was 5, and you wonder why i fucking hate you

>>33817299
i'm an 18 year old virgin because i recognize that moids are monsters. if you didnt want slaves you wouldnt keep justifying rape KAM

>>33818243
rape isn’t real also only white women interest me

>>33784775
One thing I’ve realized as I’ve gotten older is that finding a partner is really about compromise. You may have a checklist—honesty, stability, cultured, in shape, kind, curious, funny, into the arts and theater, decent height—but the truth is some things are going to matter more than others depending on the person.

The main takeaway is that those traits will vary from girl to girl, and the only thing you can really control is becoming someone who’s comfortable in his own skin.

When you’re confident in your own skin, you’re just sharing who you are instead of putting on a show to impress someone which can be sexy.

>>33784775
i like men who are honest, straightforward, cheerful, really into me and only me, not easily influenced by other people's opinions, competent, and not easily frustrated.

i think the biggest turn offs for me are when a man is insistent on doing something he's totally incompetent in and then gets emotionally frustrated when he can't do it easily. i get secondhand embarrassment. it's so childish.

if a man cares what other men think then i lose respect for him.

if a man is overly mopey and angsty i can't deal with him.

>>33818761
>if a man is overly mopey and angsty i can't deal with him.
it's over...

>>33784775
Confidence and strength, like you can fight a bear and win.

When you're a spindly dude who plays video games, won't make eye-contact, weigh 135lbs, these are all things that single you are an adult child, not a man. And we don't want to take care of an adult child. We want a man to have children with.

>>33818761
>i think the biggest turn offs for me are when a man is insistent on doing something he's totally incompetent in and then gets emotionally frustrated when he can't do it easily. i get secondhand embarrassment. it's so childish.
What I want to hear from a man in those situations is "Nah, I'll figure it out." And then he does.

>>33788512
>I'd date a guy with actual mental illness
>But not a guy who watches porn because that's healthy male behavior in a world where women are no longer property

Opinion discarded. Clearly mentally ill.