>>34097004
How do I stop hating women?

>>34097004
im racist but goddamn nigga i would plow cum explode in her cervix god i need this

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>>34097029
You hate them based on your own perception, so seperate people from the problem.
Alternatively, do the opposite and find good women to praise, for instance, if you venerate the Virgin Mary for her virtue, many women will hate you since they can't compare, even though you just show love.

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These should be easy questions for the minimally experienced:

How to find women that are actually attracted to you?
How can you know that they are attracted to you?
Alternatively, how do you "win" someone over? (it doesn't need to be a specific someone)

>Want to have sex with a black woman
>All of the ones I match with want something long term
*angry frog noises*

Do different races have different tasting pussies? I must take more samples

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to be honest rizzing up modern girls is too much work, for they don't even have j cups.

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>>34097068
Pic related, papist.

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How do I get over the feeling that I can't satisfy women? This insecurity probably stems from my stats (174cm, 15cm, 68kg) and demeanor towards women (which fluctuates between nerdy and indifferent) but I believe it is a problem I can solve just by endorsing a different perspective when it comes to people dating with each other.
Right now, I feel like dating someone like me is a sub optimal choice. Even if the statement has some truth to it, I know for a fact that there are "uglier", less masculine, and more uninteresting men which are successful with getting with women I'm attracted to.

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>>34097222
There's difference between worship and giving praise where praise is due, protochud
>>34097341
You don't, stop being lustful and focus on other things in life. Primary purpose of sex is reproduction, remember that.

Guide to good vibes:

Neediness - People do not want to interact with someone who is trying to get something out of them.
Genuineness - Nor someone who comes off as manipulative, coercive, or otherwise disingenuous.
Fear - Nor someone who exhibits signs of fear, because they are contagious.
Social - Nor someone who does not care for the happiness and wellbeing of others.
Positivity - Nor someone who exudes negative emotions and ideas.
Empathic - Nor someone who does not read other people's emotions and responds to them appropriately.
Social Cues - Nor someone who ignores social cues, or does not use them himself.

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>>34097397

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>>34097004
Just saw my crush of 8 years and invited her out. Sadly got rejected but she let me down nicely, saying that since she's not really visiting home often she'd like to spend time with as many people as possible this time so she'd rather not do 1-on-1s but left it ambiguous whenever she'd like to do 1-on-1 with me otherwise. She did say she was happy I got to meet her friends (We went out for drinks in a group) and to let them see me as a trustworthy guy.
Not sad, but motivated to keep improving instead of letting the soft rejection keep me down.
Any suggestions on what I should do next? I asked in the last thread but figured I'd post again.

>>34097119
>How to find women that are actually attracted to you?
You go out into the world
>How can you know that they are attracted to you?
They will look you in the eyes, smile, lean forward, etc.
>Alternatively, how do you "win" someone over? (it doesn't need to be a specific someone)
You find one of those girls (who looks you in the eyes, leans forward, etc.) and talk to her as much as possible, mirroring her body language, until she drags you to her bedroom.

>>34097574
Swipe on dating apps or get out of the house and meet girls.

>>34097574
>Just saw my crush of 8 years and invited her out. Sadly got rejected but she let me down nicely, saying that since she's not really visiting home often she'd like to spend time with as many people as possible this time so she'd rather not do 1-on-1s but left it ambiguous whenever she'd like to do 1-on-1 with me otherwise.
Nah dude it's over, she was just being nice to you. There's a guy out there she'd definitely 1-on-1 with, it's just not you. Count yourself lucky she was kind and direct, she sounds like a decent gal
>She did say she was happy I got to meet her friends (We went out for drinks in a group) and to let them see me as a trustworthy guy.
Here's where it begins again. She's practically offering to set you up. See if there's a way you can get around that group of lady friends again. She said "no 1-on-1s" which means "I don't want to go on a date with you" but you should definitely try to get into more of those social occasions before the holidays are over.

I'm reddit-spacing this next part because it's important you read it AND DO NOT GET YOUR HOPES UP, but speaking of social proof, dating one of her friends will raise your status in her eyes. Maybe one day in the distant future you may have another shot with her. But it only works if you disengage from any hope you have of getting with her right now, and genuinely pursue the other women around her.

One more thing, stop having crushes. Crushes are for school children. If you see something you like, try taking it immediately. Most women know if they want to fuck you in like the first minute of meeting you, in my experience waiting longer to ask out a girl you meet generally decreases your chances except in a few cases.

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>>34097689
>she was just being nice to you
Not gonna lie, I probably did figured this was the case, but my family has gaslighted me into thinking I misread every signs given and that I should be more optimistic about things so I may have just wanted to 100% believe what she said since it did actually made sense with the context of this trip.
>Count yourself lucky she was kind and direct, she sounds like a decent gal
Oh yeah totally. I may have fallen for her mostly because of how nice she is. She's among the basedest people I know and even if we're not a thing I still would be down to staying as friends/best friends with her.
>She's practically offering to set you up. See if there's a way you can get around that group of lady friends again.
She's staying for around a week more. Idk if there'll be any more outings but I'll try for sure. Her group of friends were really nice and cool to hang out with. If I can stay in touch with them it'd be nice. Should I just ask her if she's hanging out with them again?
>But it only works if you disengage from any hope you have of getting with her right now, and genuinely pursue the other women around her
Honestly Idk if I'll be able to do this. Not because I don't want to or because I'm a stubborn, but right now I've carried a crush on her for 8 years not really by choice but because I have a hard time removing my feelings for her. Been trying for years, even trying to stop talking to her even when we moved in the same street for college. I'm honestly afraid I may never be able to honestly fall for another woman at this point without having her on the back of my mind. But I definitely do want to.

How can I find a women that treats me as her equal? Tired of princesses

>>34097141
>live in Slavistan
>barely any black women on apps
>almost all of them are very religious chicks straight from Africa
I lower my standards for foreign girls, no dice

I have an ex coworker who gave me her phone number back when I left my old job so that she could call me back to help me get a job and give me tips. Which I did not expect her to do at all.

I never called her, but since I got a new job recently, I sent her an email to thank her for what she did back then. She replied by saying that I shouldn't hesitate to give her more news about me or even go see her at her office.

Could she be saying that out or politeness? I don't have that much to tell her and although we got along well back then, we were not that close. I honestly would like to see her again but all or this seems weird to me. Do I have autism 4chan

>>34097606
>They will look you in the eyes, smile, lean forward, etc.
Most people do that when talking to someone. Where do you draw the line between friendly and flirty?

>>34097968
Just message her after hours asking what's up, if the conversation goes well, ask her out.

But I'd assume it's politeness on her part

>>34097812
Also sorry for blogposting. I had a lot in my mind and wanted to let it all out. But I will definitely take all advice to heart.

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I just installed an eharmony dating app. Is it best to send messages to the ones I like or just wait for matches to actually start?

Also how much effort should I put into my profile?

Thinking about getting a temp tattoo to get more sucess with alt girls on parties, any ideas?

>>34098056
I actually want above...

>>34097958
Every one I've matched with has been super religious and still lives in Africa too.
One of my friends, well more of an acquaintance, he ended up speaking to one and has been visiting Kenya for the last few years to see her and is moving out there next year.
I remember him telling me about it when he first went. All I could think of how I was dubious about meeting someone 7 miles away from an app in case it was an armed man in a dress. And this mental cunt was flying thousands of miles to arguably the most dubious continent of them all.

>>34098194
I actually want you to answer my question.

How to do approach women at parties or social spaces and have a conversation? My question could apply for men and woman, but Ill keep it in line with this thread. I have no idea how to approach, or what to say, its fucking confusing. I have no social skills beyond talking to people at work, and I dont know how to improve said skills.

>>34097968
>>34098013
I don't think she's just being polite. To me, she's making excuses to talk to you/hang out the same way guys will make up bullshit excuses to "hang out" as adults like "hey let's study for that exam together" or "let's work on this presentation" together.
I also think you should just dap her up and see where it goes. She obviously wants to talk to you again, and because you're at a new job there's zero risk to you. This is honestly a great situation.
>although we got along well back then, we were not that close
Even better, you're a blank slate. No expectations and you haven't disappointed her/been emasculated in front of her yet. All of my relationships have started with women I basically didn't know beforehand, because if you didn't know familiarity breeds contempt. Girls are less likely to like you over time, not more, unless you're on a serious IMPROOOVER grind while you're getting to know them.

>>34097004
How do I pick up groupies after playing a music gig?

>>34098194
You can get something like that for $200-$1000 USD depending on where you live and how you feel about STDs
>>34098056
>Is it best to send messages to the ones I like or just wait for matches to actually start?
Never been on eharmony but if you can send messages to women before matching it sounds like Hinge. Most of the matches I got on there were from sending comments/messages first. IDR if I did that with the girl I ended up actually dating for a little while, but on any dating app getting matches gets you a higher rank for more matches. Just like IRL.

>>34098552
>Step 1: Groupies come up to you
>Step 2: You ask what they're doing after the show after 3 minutes of bullshit talk
>Step 3: Tell them to meet up with you afterwards instead
If you fail Step 1 it's over.

>>34098474
If you can't operate on flow, it's difficult. Lower the inhibitions somehow.

>>34098576
>3 minutes of bullshit talk
It's over for me

>>34097812
>If I can stay in touch with them it'd be nice. Should I just ask her if she's hanging out with them again?
Yes, ask her.
If you can remember any of their names and one of them caught your eye, ask for their contact info as well. Your crush already said she didn't regret introducing you, and I think she's amenable to setting you up with someone (if nothing else to get her off her ass). And whichever girl it is has the female stamp of approval which is always an asset. A good woman wingman is very hard to find, but also proportionately more effective than male wingmen

>>34098579
Still didn't work. I dont know whats wrong with me. I cant function in a social setting. The usual advice is go up and talk, but what do I say? Go up to who? Last time I was at a party I felt lost, it was like everyone knew each other. I cant figure what to do after that.

>>34098586
Sorry but unless you're selling out stadiums you're not gonna have hot and fresh DTF groupies presenting themselves to you.
My guess is you're not actually attracted to most of the girls you meet. Going on my experience with indie shows even as just a face in the crowd, the pickings are slim unless you're a true horndog that can keep it up with fatties, uggos, and hags trying to relive their youth. Next time you see a groupie you really want, just try to vibe with her and then ask that "do you wanna spend time after the show with me" question.
If these are encounters at merch tables, it doesn't even need to be 3 minutes. 30 seconds, "Hey thanks for coming out, you're really cool, what's your number so we can grab a drink/have a smoke/grab a burger after the show"

>>34098604
Actually the friends she introduced me were all in a relationship already or dudes. I'm sure if I were to ask her if she knew anyone she could introduce me to she probably wouldn't mind, but I'm a bit shy to be that guy asking her about other girls the day after she rejected me.
She's leaving in a couple of weeks and did tell me she also wants to spend time with her grandparents these holidays so she likely isn't going out with a group but I'll ask her just in case.

>>34098568
That's very true.

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Is there any way to unfuck this conversation? It was going well and then I think I made it faintly sexual. Or she was talking to a hotter guy. I don't even know if I should reply at this point. She's really close by so it'd be a low-effort date.

>>34099124
she's not into you. if she was, she'd have said literally anything other than "thanks"

>>34099124
I think you're reading too much into it. You put yourself at lower position than what you are now if you act all incel over it. Just try to have a casual conversation the next day with her and see how it turns out. I'd rather do that than do what you non-autistics do which is go into this god-awful diatribe about all these non-communicated details; what an easy way to be paranoid.

>>34099124
When she said
>Not Mondayay blah blah blah until Wednesday
and you responded with
>Haha, wow!
It was over
Beta, beta little bitch man. What the fuck are you doing Wednesday that you couldn't meet her for a date? Interrupting your gooning sesh? Your job? Oooh, maybe you scheduled traveling back and you're too much of a broke loser to afford to re-arrange your travel plans. Is that it? Brokie bitch is flying back the next day and can't afford a couple hundo to lock in some pussy?
She literally gave you an opening and you fumbled. You do not deserve to have sex, grow testicles, earn more than minimum wage, and try again.
>Hopefully I can help you relax
WALLFLOWER BETA FAGGOT
>I will hep you relax, when are you free for me to treat you?
Is what an alpha would say. And no, "treating" does not mean being a simp. It means being in a job where you are respected enough to take a spontaneous day off and take a new girl on adventures whether they be expensive or cheap.
Fuck I thought I was hopeless until I realized there were guys out there that don't even know the fundamentals.

retarded shitpost

>>34099253
>>I will hep you relax, when are you free for me to treat you?
>Is what an alpha would say. And no, "treating" does not mean being a simp. It means being in a job where you are respected enough to take a spontaneous day off and take a new girl on adventures whether they be expensive or cheap.
>Fuck I thought I was hopeless until I realized there were guys out there that don't even know the fundamentals.
wtf? This sounds gay as fuck.
I agree the way I talk is beta as fuck. I know better but I don't know what else to say.

>>34099172
I honestly don't know what else to talk to her about. We were talking about books she likes, then traveling, and some other stupid shit. I don't want to run out of conversation for the date while keeping in touch with her until next week (cause I'm busy New Years Eve and after that as well).

>>34099131
yeah and she was even double-messaging me for a while.

>>34099389
You don't always have to be interesting. If she can't accept you for being boring, or even somewhat crazy, she isn't the right one.

>>34099393
it ain't even about finding the right one, just getting some pussy again to cope with the last one not working out.
but yeah they have 50 men talking to them so she probably found another one

>>34099389
>wtf? This sounds gay as fuck.
Meanwhile you are getting NO pussy. I would have gotten pussy out of this situation. I got pussy just this week from worse pickup game.
>yeah and she was even double-messaging me for a while.
OH WOW, DOUBLE MESSAGING? SHE DEFINITELY WANTED TO DEEP THROAT YOU BRO.

I was at McDonalds the other night. So, I'm going in there and the girl is really smiling at me intensely and like looking at me and sticking her head out the window and going all up into my car and just being very flirtatious and stuff and then I was like "alright, that's cool," cause the other women were flirting with me too there and I'm just trying to make sense of it all. I don't know what happened, but I went back a couple times and then she was acting very cold and then I went back again and she was initiating flirting with me again, so I was like, "alright, cool".

Let me ask you this, if this was her trying to mess with me tho. So, I ordered a pumpkin pie and an apple pie and she's handing them to me. She reaches over and she's like, "be careful, the pies are hot". She like, gave me a big old smile. So is that a... I don't know what I did wrong? The way she said it brother, it was like, I dunno, man.

>>34099499
dude I would believe you but you're typing in such a tryhard way it seems like trolling

>>34099583
Suit yourself bro. If you could get it wet by yourself, would you be here?

>>34099452
Why not fantasize about married pussy rather than street pussy. Get to know her for a little bit, be her friend, and then once she starts getting flirty with you then try to have sex. Other than that when you talk you are like me, and you really shouldn't be around women who can't see beyond dumb details. To save you the humiliation, next time a girl starts barking you up, you do not talk to her again. Refer back to the tier list I mentioned. She may just be an acquaintance. Some girls are very flirty with people, and some aren't. You got to observe enough details to know for certain she wants to have sex with you, otherwise you're a creep. (Dude ain't that what creeps do?) No a fucking creep jumps right in jumps from the top directly to girlfriend without knowing her and sky rockets to the point of being worse than a stranger to her. You do not want to go beyond stranger with anyone. Don't be a creep and get to know her. She doesn't know you and Hell fuck her if she can't accept your anime collection or expensive computer. If a girl tells you you got an expensive computer, tell her you use it for intense projects at work, given you're probably a programmer or an engineer, alright.

>>34097004
How do I meet asian women? I want an asian cutie so bad it hurts.. Do you think they'd mind my dark skin.. its tan..

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>>34097004
If a chick says that she doesn't really use dating apps for long term. And says that she just meets people on it once and that's it. Does that mean she just uses it for constant one night stands

Also when she says it's mentally challenging and implying that you need to prepare yourself .What does she mean by that?

>>34099918
As long as she's not adamant about looking for a long term relationship, I assume ONS is in the cards. No point thinking about it any further

A girl I had been talking to spammed me with like 7 or 8 texts because I read the first one and didn't reply. In the end I did reply, mostly just answering what she had asked me. Then she said it was weird I was texting her and I need to leave her alone. When I told her that she was the one who text me she said she was going to block me because she shouldn't be "forced to have to talk to me"...because I replied to her.

This is a bullet dodged, right? I mean there's nowhere someone like this is playing with a full deck, is there?

I don't know you all. Call me a cuck, but I still am in love with a bad girl who is a buddy on the tier list. She is already fucking guys left and right and I know non-virgin. Unfortunately I don't have this raw ability of being a leader and this ability to being situationally aware like a lot of the guys she's in love with. She clearly wants a guy with a shit ton of common sense and will take her away from her painful life. The type of guy she's into is like some of the guys I argue with here. I can be attractive to her as her opposite, but the issue is, I have to be up there with the black guys she dates. Like literally the guys she dates are hardcore and know how to have fun. Yeah you can argue it is about drugs. But to go deeper she wants someone she can have fun with. And how the fuck can I be that if I'm some lame ass retard stuck in his fucking parents home. The car I got, but my own place not so much.

>>34100253
What makes all of this difficult is that there is this barrier I have to fucking cross as a man for her to get the comfort she is looking for. Kind of like a know evil to prevent evil sort of thing. Yet I can't cross, because autistic aren't allowed to know that shit. And I got to know it or I'll suffer defenseless as an adult.

>befriend beautiful zoomette in my martial arts classes
>sweet lass, very friendly and smart, share some interests too
>physically my dream girl
>she’s 17 and I’m 30

It’s like God is mocking me by having me meet a girl like her as a middle-aged man instead of when I was 20.

Anyway I have a date lined up for after New Year’s but she has cancelled like 6 times now but apologised and offered to reschedule every time. I’d normally write her off but the fact that she keeps offering new dates makes me think that she really did have a string of higher priorities come up and isn’t just yanking my chain.

>>34100315
>middle-aged man
>at 30
Yeah, well, you deserve it for letting a girl cancel SIX TIMES

>>34097222
>t.relativist Protty

What's the strat for getting women who like big dicks? I have a big dick, but I know that some women don't like them.

>>34100438
Additionally, how can I leverage my big penis to my advantage to get women?

>>34100429
>"call no man father"
>calls some random pedophile in a dress father

>>34100460
>word concept fallacy

>>34098239
So just stick to your own European women...whats so hard to understand here?

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>>34097397
>l - Nor someone who does not care for the happiness and wellbeing of others.
>Positivity - Nor someone who exudes negative emotions and ideas.
>Empathic - Nor someone who does not read other people's emotions and responds to them appropriately.
>Social Cues - Nor someone who ignores social cues, or does not use them himself.
I don't owe these to anyone im not related to or married/in-laws with. As a grown adult that's THEIR responsibility.
>Proverbs 25:28: "A person without self-control is like a city with broken-down walls, vulnerable to attack" (paraphrased from 1, 8).
>1 Corinthians 9:27: "No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified".
>Romans 12:2: "Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind"

>>34099933
>>34099933

Is this just the norm of how things are done these days? And when she says she its mentally challenging what would she mean by that.

If she goes on a "date" just to see someone one and done, does that mean she could be potentially hooking up with multiple guys a week?

Should I have tried to get in on this action and tried the "casual" thing instead of revealing that when I date someone I tend to look long term/end game.

It actually threw me off because I thought she was kind of a "good girl" type with cool nerdy hobbies etc. but I guess you never know

>>34100315
>>34100333
just wait til she's 18 and ask her out, who cares.

I've been on 3 dates with this girl (both of us are in our late 20s) and she just told me she's a virgin. Assuming she's telling the truth, is that a red or green flag? I can't really tell.

>>34097004
How to I get a cute aspie girlfriend, I'm also an aspie and I don't like being around normies.

>>34100789
Don't get a cute aspie girlfriend. They're too uptight and liberal. Get a ghetto girlfriend instead.

I just sit home and all day and do nothing. There is nowhere I want to go to actually meet people. I don't want to go running or sit in a cafe or whatever the fuck. What to do?

>>34100438
>>34100445
guess no one here has big dicks, rip.

>>34100438
It’s not something you want to advertise because it’ll backfire as much as it could help.

>>34101227
I have a cock that is bigger than 7 inches. If you're ugly like me it is seen as a deformity rather than something attractive.

I've posted before. I'm returning to school for advanced degree in my mid thirties. I really want to date or just hook up with these young 20 year olds. How do I approach without being that "creepy old dude"? I work out, 6ft, white (there is barely any white guys around campus), probably slightly above average looks, my hair is greying a little, etc. I don't want to look within my program since the girls are all asian or not very good looking.

I've been alone for quite awhile and tried dating apps, so I'm just going to start lightly approaching girls and being very direct "Hey I think you're cute want to get a coffee or lunch sometime?"

I thought I had a chance with this one girl who was in my class (different program though), she kept sitting beside me, complimented my style, etc but then it turned out she had a boyfriend lol. Don't get it.

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FIRST OFF LEARN TO READ I'M TELLING A STORY

It's better to someone you are than someone you are not. I see a lot of you guys wishing you were douchebag that gets a lot of women, but you don't realize it, but that guy is only going to be attractive to young women and it'll be over for him. Yes, we all want to be that guy in the bar who gets into fights and all of that. But let me tell you something, would you rather be the guy who slams the door on his parents saying he makes so much money selling dope he don't need a job, YA KNOW THAT GUY, or would you rather be someone who cares and puts in the effort to make something out of himself. You got to be careful of what you wish for, not everything is all green on the other side. I doubt you know this but the fucking the goes on with some of these "chads" is actually a bit more depressing than what it seems. When you find your dream girl you're gonna have a hell of a lot better sex than some "chad" who snorts cocaine off her breasts and beats her than aggressively has sex with her. Your sex is not as shocking as that guy. Think of how beautiful it would be to undress a woman in a marriage gown when you come home with her and you two are passionate about each other, that is way better than the other sex. Be yourself pog champ.

>>34101406
ask them out to study together sometime / form study groups in the class

like hey i am going to the cafe to study after class or x day

be the guy who connects people together in class
then after doing that a couple times you have the leverage to ask em out more directly

Another thing too, is you may be saying, but chicks only like bad boys, and I'm too nice. Yeah, she does, FOR A 14 YEAR OLD NOT A 25 YEAR OLD WOMAN. A 25 year old woman has significantly different tastes than a 14 year old anon. She wants a man who has it together, and true some of the confident traits of a bad boy, but you can't be this guy who wins all the time. People who win all the time are sociopaths or psychopaths, AND THEY ARE VERY VERY DEPRESSED.

I think I need some /adv/ice before I fuck this up assuming it wasn't a nonstarter from the beginning.
I matched with someone considerably younger than me, but she's cute as button. I sent her a message and then followed it up with a question. She didn't reply until the next day and it was like she was answering a question with a question so I answered it. Then there's been no response at all.
I don't really want to message her again and see if she wants to get a drink or whatever, but at the same time I don't want to not make a move. Double texting twice in a row though is a big "yikes" for zoomettes and my desperation will be noticeable.
How do I handle this?

if your around the age of 15-18 and likes alt girls please rply on my ig okok?? and if your nerdy thats cool too

>>34102027
You look alright. There'll definitely be a girl for you.

>>34102027
Though you're kinda inviting yourself to a lot of sketchy people. Not really a good thing... Uhmm... Just please ask your friends what they think of, much better answer than here.

And you all may be saying "oh, but women won't like me because I do this or that or this."

That's an entitled bitch who sticks to fairy tales of having margrittas with celebrities on a beach island in Greece. You do realize it won't just be the video games... But your friends... Your hobbies... And soon your family... And she'll give you a hug while she fucks 10 black guys while acting like this fucking classy white girl who has a life. Date a girl who wants a fucking human being anon. Classy white girl women are secretly fucking lesbians who will be ugly fat transmen.

Like literally a woman you can never no to? You do realize gay men make fun of those women anon? They're not gonna love you at all. They're gonna give you the idea of love without its execution then go bail on you the moment you reveal an embarassing secret.

Like let's say hypothetically you do marry her. You know what she'll do, fucking cheat on you, abuse your money, and be all serious for no reason. Then she'll bail out on you have your kids visit her for one hour then demand most of your money for child support to spend on bullshit mall items. Not fucking worth it. You saved yourself a fucking nightmare. And you may be saying she is hot... Pfttt yeah right. More like a fucking 6.5 out of 10 anon, not a 9 or 10 who is actually that when she giggles.

YOU SAVED YOURSELF A NIGHTMARE

>>34100333
>30
>not middle-aged

And to be fair SHE was the one who asked to reschedule every time and offered specific dates and times. That's why I let it slide than if she just ghosted me or kept being evasive. That being said this is her last chance as far as I'm concerned and if she asks to reschedule again then I'm going to cut my losses and drop her. I'm not THAT desperate.

>>34100565
I considered that but I feel like it would just come across grooming and I don't really want that kind of reputation.

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All my life I've been cougarbait but women my own age wouldn't give me the time of day.

When I was in my teens and twenties I felt left out seeing my friends get hot young girlfriends, but I still briefly dated a 28 year old when I was 19, hooked up with some 30-somethings when I was in my twenties.

Now I'm almost 40 and it makes me miserable. I go out and fat 50+ women throw themselves at me and they make me want to hurl. All I want out of life at this point is to see a pretty young girl look at me with genuine actual desire in her eyes just once before I die.

Why am I like this, how do I fix myself, how do I appeal to younger women, I'm going insane.

>>34102299
So Zack, as you reveal directly and indirectly, you are:

- ugly
- depressed
- lonely
- been cheated on, probably several times
- no strong and persistent father figure in life
- bitter, unaware and lost

What wisdom do you think comes out of you to us? You are spiraling into the abyss you are deepening yourself. And you are trying to take others with you, to feel better about your artificial predicament

So lets make it easy. You are trying to teach others. What kind of life are you living, you specifically, to do that?

Are you in a happy, exciting, lasting relationship with a beautiful woman right now?

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>>34097004
deliberate wizard apprentice posting due to the 333
>>34100333
checked
>>34100438
be attractive

>>34103275
My intention was to have you learn from what I have typed to then apply to your own life. It was aggressive to grab your attention. Everything else that you typed I believe was only said out of a misreading of my text, as though I was delusionally disassociating while typing as opposed to coherently giving a clear argument to help with the incel problem on this website. I unintentionally failed my what I intended and came off as an incel to the community instead probably giving off Elliot Rogers feels. In my true opinion, I wish you read what I typed a bit more positively rather than negatively.

Nearly 37 never had a GF because of my height and appearance at what point should I get violently angry?

>>34103401
Never. I believe violence is never the answer. I believe what you should do now is try to find peace in being alone. Try going for a walk where nature is.

>>34102338
>That being said this is her last chance as far as I'm concerned and if she asks to reschedule again then I'm going to cut my losses and drop her. I'm not THAT desperate.
Well, my middle-aged friend, hopefully you'll do it, because rescheduling six times is just disrespectful. In fact, I'd be out by the third time. Nobody's that busy.

>>34103418
Got a date with another chick from my tabletop gaming group so I'm not too concerned. Still disappointed over the age gap with the zoomer girl though, man is she hot.

On a side note does anybody have experience with taking girls to classical music concerts as a date? I was thinking of doing that but I also think that it might be kinda boring for her if she's not super into it plus you'd be stuck in one seat unlike, say a rave or a rock concert.

>>34103403
You glow you jewish pederast

>>34103401
twenty years ago

>>34103392
You are not getting my question. Lets start again

You give a lot of advice, half of which is not even asked for, just you answering some question you have in your mind for yourself. What kind of a relationship do you have right now to share such advice?

You share wisdom, where did your wisdom lead YOU? This thread is about finding women, dating them, building something beautiful. How that relates to you personally? And I am asking this no ill intent

Answer honestly

Okay so I'm ACTUALLY getting a gf this year unironically even if nothing else happens.

>>34103401
Just go to escorts. Prostitution is the oldest business in history for a reason.

Are dating sites/apps a meme? I've never used one but I get the impression they're mostly filled with whores looking for a quick fuck and older used up whores "ready to settle down". Ideally I would meet someone irl but asking out strangers feels impossible if you aren't a 11/10 chad and pursuing women you know/work with risks being extremely embarrassing if they turn you down.

>>34104620
You should use them but they shouldn't be your only avenue. They're a supplement.

>>34104620
They’re fine if you’re already good looking and know how to market yourself as a great romantic partner. Even then it’s hard to really represent what makes you a great partner through a limited selection of photos and prompts. The nature of dating apps allow women to pick apart men’s profiles for their own personal icks/red flags/preferences, whereas approaching and meeting people IRL gives them less to judge you on off the bat.

>>34104727
How does one market themselves as a good partner? What does a good partner look like to women?

>>34104734
In terms of marketing yourself through a dating app profile you need to tailor your profile to basically be a preview of what it would be like to date you. The best way to do that is to have your leading photo be sort of like a POV photo like they’re sitting across from you at a restaurant or something similar. The other photos should demonstrate what your lifestyle is like, your hobbies, activities, travels, social life, etc. Things that show you lead an interesting life that they too can be a part of.
Being a good partner in practice is a lot more involved beyond being a marketably attractive person on a dating app.

im 28, i havent dated in years nor sociable enough to get to know one closely beyond superficial shit like parties and work. what are women in their late 20s and early 30s like? location wise, im in east ontario

>>34104981
Huh. Kind of explains why I do so poorly on them. I don't have any pictures of me doing fun things because I'm busy actually doing the fun thing. Dating apps really are shit.

>>34103680
You don't realize this, but people come and go in life. Rarely there is anyway things can be set where they stay with you permeantly. And yeah it's fucking abstract and you don't like it because it doesn't fit your concrete way of seeing things, but its your choice anon. You can keep living your life being uglier and meaner and more cynical each time a girl dumps you, or you can take off this criticizing way you look at things and actually fucking try to care even if it failed you. You may be sitting there thinking I'm talking about myself, and yeah I'll go ahead and do that. Each time you see me take breaks on this site you may think I'm playing video games but I'm actually working 40 hours a week, exercising, trying to build on my education, respecting my family and friends, and actually trying my damn best to be a decent human being each day. Let's stop this bullshit of what I'm doing, what are you doing if I'm doing that?

I'm this anon. >>34097574
I just got to the realization she probably never had any romantic feelings towards me and that I spent all of my adult life crushing for her and now I'm in tears, nose clogged up and sad as fuck. Sorry if this is the wrong thread, fellas. Just wanted to vent. I hope I can find someone I found as cute and sexy as her with a nice personality.

>>34105253
This doesnt answer my direct and simple question. Can you please answer in one or two clear and precise sentences? Lets start again

You are teaching people how to navigate relationships with women

What kind of a woman are you are dating right now based on what you teach?

What kind of relationship does the wisdom you are sharing allow you to build with her?

>>34106148
Yeah, well I try to learn from what I'm given not overly question its logic.

>>34106163
What? Thats not an answer. Can you please answer a simple question:

You teach people relationships with women. What kind of relationship with a woman do YOU have, based on what you teach?

Never love bomb a woman you barely know.

Don't make the same mistakes I did.
Don't tell a woman you love her unless you seriously mean it.
Don't ghost her after taking for months outta nowhere just because you're afraid of catching feelings and getting hurt so you decide to hurt her first.
Don't fall for a woman you know you can't help support financially.
Never ask to meet her family including her child just to end up leaving, the kid gets attached faster than she did.
Do better than me, please be a better man. You got this anons, believe in yourself!

>>34106567
>Don't fall for a woman you know you can't help support financially.
Bro like 5% of men can do that

>>34106586
It's also just got nothing to do with compatibility or love. Financial stability is important to everybody, but life circumstances are a distant second to how you actually feel about somebody. Bitches will excuse all kinds of negative social standings for a mf who's emotionally available and funny/fun to be around. My wife is in the top 10% yearly salary in the US (for both men and women) and I've never had a job that paid more than $8.25 an hour, but we've been together for 18 years because I'm fuckin funny, great to talk about your problems to, and eat pussy like I'm gonna be sleeping under a bridge if I don't do it right.

>>34106636
What are you doing here Sir Chad?

I had an amazing second date with a girl I met on Hinge today. It lasted over 4 hours, we did a puzzle, then dinner, and ended the night cuddling and making out at her place until she had a work meeting and I had to leave. The connection is definitely there, I feel like.

Now she’s going on a trip with friends for 10 days. I look at her hinge profile everyday because I like seeing pictures of her but a day or two before our second date I noticed her Hinge location already updated to the location of the trip, which is making me overthink things even though we aren’t exclusive yet (as if my dumbass is gonna get that far). What I want to know is, should I text her while she’s on vacation with friends? I don’t want to have a weird ten day gap in communications but I need to approach this with caution. Another thing, Is it better to unmatch on the app so I stop looking at her profile? I like seeing her pictures like I said, but the "detective work" is stressing me out.

>>34106687
I'm a bluehaired bisexual they/them libtard who's 5'8 and never spent a second of my life working out and got diagnosed as autistic late in life. Literally nobody in-person would ever refer to me as a "Chad". I just did a shit ton of ecstasy and psychedelics, don't give a fuck about shit, and never had any money so I learned to overcome my shortcomings by having enough valuable social capital to be likeable enough to people I want to like me that they want me around even though I can't contribute monetarily.

It's not hard. I think a lot of people just have so much ego and so little experience with real people that they get in their own way and ruin their chances by refusing to be flexible and learn to get in where they fit in.

Spend more time at parties and figure out what kind of person you are in that environment, and learn to cultivate the things that are simultaneously true to your actual self, and recieved well by others, and bitches will inevitably throw ass at you. People love people who know who they are and how to play their role.

>>34106567
That is definitely true.

>>34106743
If you're gonna message her wait at least a few days into her trip and make it a short and spontaneous message that doesn't require a response. Something simple like "just woke up thinking about you, hope you're having a great time on your trip!" just to a) let you know you're thinking of her and b) give her and her girlfriends something positive to talk about because they're absolutely 100% already talking about you anyways, and now with a message like that they can talk about how you're thoughtful, not desperate, and care enough to just drop a line but not so much that you couldn't go a day or two without being up her ass. If she does actually engage with you while she's there make sure to, at least once, courteously be like "hope I'm not keeping you from the fun..." or some shit so you come off interested but not like you're actively trying to monopolize her attention.

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>>34099600
I'm readin this back and forth goin "Yeah get his bitch ass", but then.....why are *you* here......?

>>34106790
He's the atypical hooping and hollering guy that gets chicks all the time and doesn't shut up about it. If you play his game of going in all dirty it ain't gonna work. You got to play your game your way as yourself. Everyone's game is different. Some people they need to be more confident and some less. It all depends on who you are. All of which I do is applying hooping and hollering people's idea on relationships all the time, is a bit dumb. Like imagine had you applied his advice on getting a job. Am I supposed to dump all my money into a crypto farm and expect I get it all back? That's how he thinks anon.

Literally how do I attract black women. I’m realizing universally every race thinks that black guys are ugly (unless you are obviously chad). I’m not chad or anything so I have no chance with any other group of women. Additionally I am autistic with obvious anxiety issues so my confidence is lower than 99% of black guys in America. The main appeal of black guys is that we’re confident and I don’t have that key trait. I seem grossly incompatible with literally every black girl that I meet and they aren’t attracted to me. My interests: literature, music (folk/indie/slacker rock), crpgs, film (lynch/yang/melville). I don’t want to date a girl into any of these things, but I want you to imagine the type of guy into these things. Me being not that knowledgeable about sports eliminates me from 80% of women. They like guys that know ball. How do I find a black woman that would not mind being into a guy like this? Would I actually have a chance with other groups of women?

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>>34106567
>including her child
>her child

>>34107491
I don't know what exactly constitutes "slacker rock", is that like another word for grunge? - anyways, the idea that you have to be stunningly attractive and that nobody finds black guys attractive is bullshit. What you're doing is buying I to stereotyping and thoughtless shit people say online because they're hypothesizing and facing no real stakes in the statements they make. In real life, everyone feels differently about everything, and anything you believe everyone is thinking is just an oversimplification. You should also be aware that any kind of niches you may fit into have their fans, they're just not something you're going to see everyone talk about. When I picture a black dude who's into reading, alternative music, experimental films et al I picture someone with who wears black nail polish, maybe a wallet chain, black and white checkered vans, band shirts... But that's just me. I don't know what your fashion aesthetic is like because you didn't really mention it, but if you're not putting much thought into that, you should REALLY consider it. Hotness is just as much about aesthetic as it is bone structure et al. I have icy blue eyes and incredible cheek bones and a great jawline, but I could and have very easily looked like a hideous C.H.U.D. in the wrong look, and punched way above my weight class in the right look. Figure out what both works for you (makes you look hot) and represents what you want the world to see about you, and start dressing that way. You don't have to fit any stereotypes about black men to be attractive, and anyone who expects you to and doesn't like you because you don't is only interested in you for your race as exoticism. There's absolutely girls out there who are looking to buy what you're selling. Get involved in a local or semi-local scene, or at least do *something* to be around random people who share your interests. You will inevitably bump into/attract the attention of someone who wants you and vice versa.

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>liberal fwb is inviting me to hang out with her friends for nye
Do I go and just not care if anything comes up with them? I assume theyre all like her. I dont bring up politics because we just hang out and fuck, and who talks about that with women anyway? Should I go? I do wanna fuck tonight so

>>34108767
I almost always regret not going to social gathering, what else are you gonna do

It's been 6 months since she left me
Im still hurting like a punk bitch
every girl I see or attempt to flirt with I'm not really that interested in
with her, I saw her, said, "I will marry her in my head"
and then we met and we had sex and she cooked for me and she gave me massages and told me she loved me and treated me better than any girl had before
she would kiss me so sweetly, lift her arms around my neck with an elegant unfolding of her hands
her smile was unwavering and big whenever she saw me
her body, carved from marble, nipples pointed at the ceiling from a substantial c cup
an ass the perfect size, with enough to grab onto as she rode me even though she had the flattest belly and the firmest arms
her skin was white, finally I had a girl who was white
her hair was perfect, brownish and golden like mine, green eyes of verdant hills and hot spring waterfalls
I wanted nothing but her, I couldn't think of anything but her, I grew obsessive and afraid to reveal myself to her fully, she would call me weird, compare me to charles manson, ask me if she was a jew, would i kill her, told me i only wanted her for her ass
why did this happen? I feel like a scum like a cockroach

>>34106743
Do you guys think I should text her and ask to be exclusive? Or would it be better to wait until the next date if it'll even happen?

>>34108930
>told me i only wanted her for her ass
>literally only talks about her body for an entire paragraph
Youre a punk bitch and a creep. You type like a fag pretending to be straight. Kys

>>34109031
Did you want me to write another 2 paragraphs about her personality? And you're calling me a fag? lol

>>34109007
you gotta not care about this girl you met on a dating app.
You met one time, not even fucking her, she has hinge still installed. she's collecting still.

>>34109071
we met two times actually, and we made out and cuddled

Woman here how do I get a man to go to the fireworks in Calgary I have 2 hours before I have to go alone

>>34109597
go to
>>34085619

I’m pretty ugly. I’m spending NYE in the gym, should I bother trying to go out somewhere or should I just stay alone where I belong. Is there any chance of meeting women out of the blue at these new years events or would I be wasting my time

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>>34097004
Fell in love with my friend. We're both grad students at a state school on the east coast. There's a 15+ yr age gap. She likes me, has told me I'm important to her. Told her I loved her and what I wanted to mean to her, straight up bc she prefers clarity to ambiguity. Her friends disapproved, drama followed, I became the villain. We were both put under a microscope by our friends and it fucking sucked but she doesn't want me to blame them for that. Instead I offered her a way out: we mutually and amicably decided to break contact for a while until the stupidity dies down with time. We haven't spoken in months, but there's a tentative promise to try again in the new year. I love her fr, whenever we're together alone the comfy couple vibe is palpable. She's attractive and beautiful and all that but I don't care: her personality and who she is are what I love. She thinks I'm sweet and good but she also wasn't really available at the time. I don't do casual and its been a long time since my last relationship. Honestly feels like we imprinted on each other, formed an attachment but it didn't have time to cement before her fat friends bullied her into dropping me. I've known her a year, we've been friends and grew really close spending time together in private before the shitstorm of people seeing and judging ended things. No sex and I'm fine with that; I love her. Have spent a fuckton of time thinking about this entire situation and the both of us. If it doesn't work out in the short term at least I know I've grown and hope she has too. Our childhoods and traumas and attachment styles resulted in a perfect harmony of us regulating each other effortlessly: we're mirrors for each other, when we're together there's no performance. It's just us being ourselves and it's fucking magnificent. This honestly feels like a once-in-a-lifetime connection and if it gets fucked up because of dumbass drama I'll be devastated. Happy new year anons.

Went on my first ever date at 25
I think we had a nice time I gave her a hug at the end but was too scared to kiss her. I awkwardly said "see you later" and she was like "okay!" and smiled so I guess she wants to see me again

should I try and kiss her and how many dates until I try and initiate sex. I want to have sex with her but also want to take it slow if that makes sense. I like her as a person a lot so while I'd rather have sex with her asap because I'm a dude and I'm horny I'd also be fine waiting weeks or months even for her because I like her a lot. I hope that makes sense

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>>34110186
this is the right attitude anon. don't let your hormones fuck up your chances. she's a human being with human dignity not a fuckdoll. show her respect and be interesting and (more importantly) interested and she'll appreciate how you are different from every other retard with a hard on. godspeed.

Be yourself.

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>>34110222
This exactly. Trips of truth don't lie.

>>34097004
I went out for new years and girl I’m into left with another dude. I feel like this has been happening my entire fucking life and I’m losing my shit because I’m 27 and haven’t figured out talking to girls. I keep fucking up, I am told I’m good looking and /fit/ but I don’t know how to talk to people and I am always watching other guys pull moves and I awkwardly sit there and watch

Can someone fucking help me because I can’t do this shit any more, I’m so fucking tired because i see how girls react to me and I don’t think I’ve ever had one genuinely into me

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>>34097004
Alright, I need outside input on whether or not I’m right for this girl.
>got approach in the gym last week.
>scheduled a date
>turn’s out she’s 19 and I’m 8 years older.
>she keeps going on about settling down and raising Christian children.
I was completely honest about who I was, the incompatible areas I see are as followed.
>i used to abandon all religions but have come around to the fact that life might be better with it. I just can’t logically convince myself there is a God.
>I go to a lot of metal concerts and read need shit that I don’t think she has any interest in. This is speculation, but she she views crystals as satanic so she might view my music taste as satanic.
>I don’t if the age gap thing makes me creepy.
>I want to have sex and not just for procreation. When I fall in love, this becomes an obsession. I know myself well enough to say I’m not waiting more than a year.
>marriage is a financial risk that scares me. It would take a lot for me to go along with it.
The good things about us are this.
>I do want kids. I’ll never say it because I’m not the one who has to birth them, but I do.
>she is literally the physical description of my ideal gf.
The problem I’m having here seems to stem from women existing at two ends of an extreme.
One extreme only cares for themselves, so they date around in order to have a free dinner and fuck Chad later.
The other dates for marriage and kids, but only due to religious devotion and the preservation of traditions that are otherwise dying.
I’m in the middle as a person who recognizes the need to adapt without a need to use others. Neither view is how I see the world.
Is the Christian girl that wants to be a baby factory truly the best I’ll ever get?

>>34110487
From this outsider's perspective
It's completely pointless to pursue this

>>34110487
from a ultilitarian prespective there's zero reason you shouldn't try
you could go balls to the walls and find a way to get her to slowly tone down the religiousness of her but that's a bit immoral yet possible over the span of some years if you were never blantant and fedora athiest tier about it, just super duper subtle stuff but again i wouldnt expect that to work
ZERO REASON NOT TO TRY THO

I asked a girl out, got rejected because she said she was seeing somebody and that she didnt want anything to get in the way of our friendship. She is also a coworker.
Would I be bad if I told her I dont want to just be friends and that I need space from her? Should I just tell her I need space?

>>34111038
the solution isn't to ask more of her (remove yourself from my presence)
it's to ask less
just live your life and move on

Said goodbye to a woman that I liked talking to(she also liked me) due to the fear of getting too attached and thus losing her because there are too many societal obstacles between us. Also I had a fear that she was just playing with me. I have massive trust issues in general.

Now I am thinking about her 24/7. Should I block her? I miss her so damn much. I want to send a message to her NOW but I don't know. I ended things our of nowhere. She's so nice even then she said that I should contact her if I changd my mind.

What I should do?

>>34111454
be a man of your word
that's the most attractive
but be open if she invites you out

>>34111587
Aright but watching her pop on my feed makes me crazy. Should I block her?

ez
1 never get up
2 ropemaxx/isekaimaxx/rebormaxx

>>34111603
soft block
hide her posts and stories

>>34111621
Thanks man

Feeling like shit for pushing away a sincere friend. I enjoyed talking to her but ended things out of nowhere.

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How do I talk with zoomer women in DMs?
I'm talking to one that's a friend of a friend, I want to hang out as friends for now, but I also want to message her in a way that will foster attraction
Can someone spoon-feed me some examples of how you'd hit up a girl, some examples of ambiguous flirting. New to this, also kind of a high inhib sperg.

>>34111725
how old are you?

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How would you go about building up a relationship with a woman at your workplace? Since it's hard to have substantial 1-on-1s there, do you reckon it's best to straight up ask for a phone number or even a date?

There is a sublime demure girl where I work who seems to be into me. She often takes opportunities to be next to me, discretly inserts herself in groups I'm in and is nervous when we interact. Once she even blushed when I greeted her (it was related but I'll pass the details unless someone wants to read it).
I've been at that job for half a year but ever since I got the idea that this could be real recently (the blush) I've become obsessed about her. It's a bit scary. She's my ideal kind of woman in a way especially considering she's smart, we're in the same field and I like to talk about work related subjects.
I feel a massive urge to act but I'm being a massive pussy. We don't have many opportunities to interact and I'm an awkward autistic fuck who hasn't had a girlfriend in a decade... I really need to at least show her my affection, maybe take it slow as to not mess things up but there is a metaphorical Shai LaBeouf saying "JUST DO IT" in my head.
I'll just go with my plan to subtly ask her number when I go back from hollidays I think and then ask her for a date.

>>34112144
since you don't usually get to talk that's perfect
you just go up to her one day and say
hey since we don't usually get a chance to chat we should grab lunch one of these days

>>34109126
I texted her happy new years and she never replied is it over? The other girl's I'm talking to and all my friends replied except for the one girl I care about fuck my piece of shit fuckass chud life I need to shoot myself with a 1911. I won't do that I'll find another girl eventually.

>>34112203
Yeah you're right it's not weird to want to know someone and work just isn't a place to do so. Lunch would have been a smooth option indeed but we eat at a cafeteria with different colleagues.
I have a decent justification for a date anyway I think. I moved to a new city for that job, don't know it well and don't have friends outside work but would like to visit some stuff with someone.

>>34112134
I'm also a zoomer
just no experience texting women

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>>34100315
SHOOT YOUR SHOT

>>34099124
you are overthinking it far too much, here's the secret to getting girls:
they tell you to be nice to women, women do not want that alone, they want you to be a nie chad, so you can be forward, you can be assertive, you can be sexual, but also polite and decent and kind.
tl;dr nice guys finish last and bad guys do too, it's the combination that works.

If you message a girl and turns out to be a real yapper, is that an interest indication?

>>34106743
>>34109007
>>34112206
you're insane get a grip mate
you will 100% guaranteed lose this girl if you act like this

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>>34109065
Not him but are you genuinely retarded? The fuck else are we supposed to surmise from your post when 100% of it's about her body? Maybe cut that bullshit no one read down by 70% and add stuff about her personality next time, I didn't even read it, I saw the second work of each line was body related and skipped the whole thing

>>34112391
Finally a nuanced opinion on here. This is the truth - be confident, maintain your boundaries, hold self-respect, and be kind and nice at the same time. It's the holy grail and most guys go too far in either direction.

Simping/being a "nice guy" is when you're doing things for a woman who isn't that interested in you, in an effort to win her over. They sacrifice their self-respect and boundaries in an effort to win her over. Women are repelled by this, because if you can't stand up to them, they can't expect you to stand up to others - basically, they don't feel protected and safe with you.

Women like the "bad guys" in spite of them being bad, because they have other redeeming qualities - charismatic, confident, funny. These relationships are generally unstable, chaotic, and rife with cheating on both sides. Also I've seen times where the woman finally locks down the bad guy, only to realize there's no real substance there and then lose feelings.

>>34112468
I want to add on to this that the definition of simping has become severely warped over time. No, treating a girl that gives you the same exact respect and attention a certain is not simping, it's when you do that for someone who doesn't give a singular fuck about you that it's simping

Some may think this is obvious, but "simping" gets used for both more and more often

>>34112206
dude it's fine, she's on a girl's trip, she'll reply when she gets a chance. She probably doesn't want to get dragged into a conversation.

>>34109007
>>34106743
If she'd updated her Hinge profile after your 2nd date then yeah that would be something to consider, but before your 2nd date? Dude, relax. No one owes anything after a first date.

>Is it better to unmatch on the app so I stop looking at her profile?
No, keep her as a match if you're serious about her. If she ever updates her profile after you guys are exclusive then it's the most obvious sign she's cheating. If she updates her profile after the 3rd date but before you're exclusive, that's also a sign she may not be as interested in you as you are.

The only time I unmatch girls are when I am planning on meeting more women and I don't want them to see my profile updates.

>>34112480
This is true and it's a tragedy that young men are being raised to think that doing nice things for your gf is somehow emasculating.

With the best girl I ever dated, I would buy her flowers and chocolates and little trinkets for no reason other than I really loved her. She really appreciated this too and I think it raised my value in her eyes a lot, in the sense of "damn, I have a bf who is confident and sweet at the same time. This is really rare, I don't want to lose him". If your girl really likes you, then doing these little things doesn't make her lose respect - it actually makes her euphoric and she will do everything in her power to keep you.

We ended up breaking up over values - we found out that we have very different parenting styles - but she remains the best girl I've dated so far, and we ended amicably. Without a doubt the most painful break up I went through, but it had to be done

>>34112485
Alright thanks, this helped. I unmatched and paused my profile like a dumbass this morning on impulse and ten minutes later had the realization which was basically what you said but oh well, what's done is done. I feel retarded but if she asks I'll say that it was because I stopped going on the app and deleted my account because what's the point of having it still if I don't go on it.

Anyway I was thinking about asking to be exclusive at the end of the third date, is that a good timeline?

>>34112435
Come on y'all, I thought this would be an easy one

>>34112391
>tl;dr nice guys finish last and bad guys do too

No they don't, bad guys get laid and sometimes get women that tolerate their garbage personality and stick with them long-term. Nice guys will literally get nothing. One is clearly better than the other and while a balance is nice, girls will always, ALWAYS, without exception, pick asshole attitude over being a simp who buys her flowers.

>Go on holiday to the country my parents are in
>get bored and go on Hinge
>match with a cute girl
>start chatting her expecting to be ghosted
>she actually seems really nice and keeps talking to me
>I have to leave in a week anyway
What do bros? I haven't been on a date in a year but I'd feel guilty seeing her in person just to ghost her. I haven't even told her I don't actually live here.
Is the best move just to ghost/unmatch her now?

Anyone have any advice on chatting with an older woman? She’s 49 and im 22. We matched while I was out of town so it’s just texting for now. Do I address the age gap thing or just leave it unsaid?

>>34112667
Just be upfront with her and let her decide

Legit where are the fucking women at??
>go to singles events
>ratio of like 3/5 women to men
>go to social tennis
>ratio of like 2/5 women to men
>go to run club (because Reddit says you can meet women there )
>ratio of like 2/5 women to men
>go to bouldering (because Reddit says you can meet women there)
>ratio of like 1/5 women to men
What the fuck

>>34113294
hot women hang where there's more women to men
not where men would like to be

think pilates classes, fashion, makeup, other gay shit like that
sadly men not allowed

>>34113294
Imagine thinking that women give a shit about sports, fuck plebbit
Most of them are at art related events

>>34113364
Are you the only anon who replies in this general? What is your gender and age?

>>34097062
Why do racists always say shit like this

>>34097119
>How can you know that they are attracted to you?
look up Indicator of Interest (IOI), there's probably tons of lists out there ranging from common sense to a bit of a stretch. depends how much you want to become a body language analysis weirdo.
>common sense: looking at your lips or flipping her hair
>reaching: turning her wrists outwards, pupil dilation
etc.

>Alternatively, how do you "win" someone over?
I'm assuming you're referring to the "maybe" chicks, I think Mark manson talks about them in models. short answer is "game", both verbal/physical and text game nowadays. I think models was written before text game really turned into its own thing. physical flirting has been covered to death and the principles have never changed. there's a youtube channel called playing with fire, I think it's dead now though, but a guy on there could go through his texts with women and break down every single exchange and elaborate on the strategy in his responses, basically showing how to turn moderate interest into a date/sex.

>>34097574
>crush of 8 years
you did this to yourself nigga, how the fuck do you have a "crush" (gay term btw stop using it) on someone for almost a DECADE and not do something about it? what the fuck man.

>>34099124
>I have to get my car fixed on Monday but it should only be a few hours so by 5 or 6 I should be done.
What is all this lmfao, she doesn't give a fuck about your car.

"How's monday at 6 sound?"

Then be late anyways and THEN you can mention your car. trim the fat nigga, women don't want your life story.

>faintly sexual
there's zero sexual tones in that conversation.

>>34100767
depends on why. for women getting sex is as easy as breathing so she is either hyper religious or insanely mentally ill in a way you can't detect but every other guy could.
alternatively, she just has never been in a situation to have sex. never dated in high school, doesn't have friends to go out with or meet people through, it's possible I suppose.
when I was 22 I dated a 22-year-old virgin for like a month. she really wanted me to take her virginity but I broke it off before we went all the way. judging by how awkward and tense she was whenever we got physical (and how bad she was at kissing) she was telling the truth. I never got to ask her why though.

>>34112206
it's fine lil bruh she's just having a bit of sex she'll text you back when she can bro bro

>>34113730
Why would you give up a girl like that

>>34113735
Honestly bruh if a girl is making that guy spiral so much they're not meant for each other

>>34113374
So how do I into art

>>34112435
i'd say yes, 80% certainty, depends though, what is she yapping about?

>>34112625
>ad guys get laid and sometimes get women that tolerate their garbage personality and stick with them long-term
they have horrible relationships, and end up divorced 4 years later with two children, those kids grow up to be horrendous monsters.

>>34113826
don't do anything with the intention of getting a woman, do what YOU genuinely like and be honest about it, and it will attract a woman. they like a man who has stuff going on, dosn't matter what, as long as he is skilled and interested in something.

>>34113775
NTA but she was clearly a virgin because she has some serious emotional problems around sex.
aka
>insanely mentally ill in a way you can't detect
>>34100767
very big green flag if she's honest and religious, either way, chances of her leaving you are super low. vet her closely for markers of dysfunction. and remember, never try to fix anyone, you can't, get them on a path that makes them want to fix themselves. e.g. i love you but you have some serious problems and they will cause issues in our relationship in the future
hopefully her response is "ok i'll get therapy because i love you so much too" though if she is crazy they don't think like that.

Im gonna see a lady soon, and I have long hair. I always keep it tied, or wearing a hat. What would be better? Cut my hair that I haven’t cared for much, or keep it and risk the sudden style change. I also have trouble with choosing hair styles and I will most likely keep it from being too long or too short of a style.

>>34112206
Another trooper got shot down today. Sorry for your loss bro.

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Putting college and bars aside, where can I, a 23 year old man, meet women?

Got rejected by my coworker crush. I got on dating apps for the first time to get my mind off her and maybe meet somebody.
I believe I fumbled the coworker because I took to long to ask her on a date, and by the time I did, she was talking with somebody. When on a dating app, you are supposed to ask on a date within the first few messages right?

>>34114666
You can meet women anywhere. What matters is the awareness of the tier system i made. Never unload on a stranger. I'm glad I made it because I was about to freak out about a girl leaving me on read, but then I remembered. Okay, she is just a buddy not an actual girlfriend yet and now I feel better. It gets hard at times to know who your friends are or not.

>>34114872
Where did you make it? I wanna see

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>>34114895
Remember, women go deeper on you through each rank. Yeah you may pet your dog and get unconditional love, but can you touch it like a long term girlfriend?

>>34114895
Farthest I made was girl I had a fling with.

>>34114666
Bridge club, theatre group, reading circle, knitting group, yoga, quilting bee, book signing, cosplay event, bird watching group, the beach, church, pilates, spinning, golf, poetry reading, D&D, language courses, painting classes, all those things that adults do as a group.

>>34114934
Dude, one of the dumbest thing I've seen.

>>34113895
keep it similar to what she seen you as
>>34114714
couple screens worth of conversation to vibe check and lightly flirt like 1-4 days dont message all day

>>34115047
Good stranger you should try it out. Ranking relationships will help you out a lot in life.

>>34115044
Skiing, hiking group, skating, curling, dance lessons, church choir, meals on wheels

>>34115337
Video games have infected your mind and polluted your interactions with other humans.

Is it worth hiring a photographer just for good Hinge pics?

>>34106790
>why are *you* here......?
Boredom and a paternal need to correct young men making the same mistakes I did
>>34106805
Leave it to a tripfag to be so much of a cum-guzzling homosexual to extrapolate a whole fucking paragraph about someone else's intentions lol

>>34115369
He's a tripfag, which means he's so eternally online that he felt the need to make a monetary purchase to skip five seconds of solving a captcha, as well as being such an attention whore he needs a unique marker so everyone can look at him and know "he" was the one that made those posts.
In a better time, before COVID, before Hiroshimoot, we knew tripfags were worthless unless they were confirmed biological women showing tits. Clearly you zoom zooms don't know this.

>>34115414
Thank god he’s a tripfag, easyer to filter him. He’s such a fag holy shit, it’s insame people still reply to him. Poor souls actually taking him serious

Something that I didn’t realize for years was how different sexual attraction was from just liking people.

I’m currently in a FWB situation and the girl I’m seeing constantly complains about how I’m “too likable” for doing things like kissing her forehead during sex or even texting her during the day. I don’t think these things are a big deal at all but apparently it’s causing her to catch feelings. I also thought she was just joking about these things early on but that was wrong. She really just wants contact for fucking and nothing else.

I’m a late bloomer so I guess I’m just surprised and still trying to navigate how people deal with sexual relationships. I’ve had no problem being social with women but being sexual has always been something I struggle with. I think I’m starting to understand why, I just don’t know how I can fix my lack of sex appeal.

Just ranting don’t want advice

>>34115544
I have no idea what you mean and I'm sure that's part of the reason I suck with women

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>>34115414
>>34115472

>>34115369
No.

>>34115544
there's nothing wrong with that, I do that too. makes em fall in love with me, I know that, but it's also my way of enjoying sex. I've had sex with whores aswell and obviously don't do that there and I can tell you that that kind of sex sucks quite a lot for me.

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Anyone try meeting girls at yoga classes?

>>34115772
What I'm trying to get at here is that the things you do to show her that you care about her and think about her aren't what turns her on. If she's sexually attracted to you, there are things she feels beyond your input that feed into it and everything you do other than that is extra, and may or may not be wanted.

I've beaten my head against the wall many times in my life trying to let women I grow attracted/attached to that I want and care about them and it's done nothing for me. I get friendzoned and now I'm starting to understand why.

If she likes you but doesn't want to fuck you, you're a friend/orbiter

If she doesn't like you but wants to fuck you, you're still getting laid but you won't have a gf

If she likes you both ways, you're golden

If she doesn't like you any way, you're invisible

Basically I'm starting to understand that the situations where I've been "stuck," is because I lack sex appeal despite how much better I've become at socializing. Something to meditate on.

How do you meet women without dating apps man

>>34105717
lmao chud, imagine simpmaxxing over a foid

where does one meet women outside of the apps genuinely (i live in europe)

How do I get an Asian girlfriend as a mediocre white guy? I’m 24 years old and have never had a girlfriend or had girls interested in me so I don’t even know where to start. But I keep hearing people say you just need to be white so that’s what I want to capitalize on.

>>34116516
How about you stop listening to advice that is something a guy who is drunk trying to get you to do shit that'll get you in trouble will do. Let's do the awkward thing as that is more responsible.

Try having a normal conversation and talk about the things you like and what she likes. Build from there. You have to take things step by step while observing little details to check if she likes you or not. With enough details you'll know you got it. Otherwise you're like some of the guys here stuck in a loop where you're laughed at for not being hot like them getting away with shit. Like no shit Brad Pitt of course your method of just walking up and being all ballsy would work if people were you, but the average man is a bit different.

>>34116516
Just observe the little details okay, and you'll know it.

>>34116379
Do more things and you'll find more women. Open yourself up more and you'll find a woman. Refer to the tier list though. You're starting as a stranger with her, you're not the shit yet.

>>34116103
You need to cuddle enough times with a girl, before you jump into sex. To get the golden one is through a willingness to experience each other. If you refer back to my tier list. If you and a coworker or classmate are just talking and not going further, that's an acquieantance you got to dig deeper. You just got to know.

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>muh tier list

Literally the most humiliating thing on Tinder is to at one moment get all flustered and frustrated and give up when a girl didn't give you her number, it has to be built. I've had an online girlfriend before and how I knew it was working was we were sharing emails and visiting other sites together. You're essentially in this box on these dating websites and the game is if I can get her out of it or is she gonna stay in it.

Is one week too long to go without texting a girl?

>>34116997
Text hi to her and wait. Patience will help you do not overly send her a million texts all at once.

first timer here. is this board all autists?

>>34117071
Why worry about that?

>>34113775
because I have principles and she broke the singular rule I set before we started seeing each other. if you go back on something like that she'll never take you seriously so I had to end it.
Also I had gotten to the age where I didn't really value virginity as much as before and I wasn't going to look past other things just because she was a virgin. she was sweet and cute and had a surprisingly big ass that she hid well, but it wasn't enough to outweigh her being dishonest.

>>34117161
>big booty virgin

Where the hell did you even find her? Was she chubby?

>>34117191
she wasn't chubby. she was actually a collegiate equestrian and had a strong ass core and hard abs. dead flat chest but I suppose the ass made up for it.

I have less interest in casual sex compared to long term dating but it's the only option available to me (military), and at that, changing station often. What do?

Im gonna be 27 by the time I get out of the service. I've been trying to set myself up for the outside. Stocks, tretinoin, fitness, been amassing a few stories. I don't know. What do?

>You signed up for this
Yes true. In my defense though relationships took a backpedal to livelihood, and I have a dependent mother (and no credentials prior to the military). But regardless, yes, my decision. What can I do now?

Listen you all. I get that you all want to unleash your load in a woman, but you need to cook your food right before you eat it. If you just go all in, it ain't gonna feel right, unless you are so sex addicted you're like a meth head. Sex needs love like food needs to be cooked. Not gonna say it isn't impossible, but there will be a bit of guilt that your v card was lost to someone had there not been love. It's like saying you graduated from middle school at 25 as opposed to getting a graduate degree. And anons here may be saying then wouldn't that mean you are a homosexual hmmmm... No flip it to a homosexual same exact story empty sex and felt used and forgotten.

>>34117217
How’d you end up dating? Social circle?

>>34117227
Yeah, similar situation. I'm 29 now and been dating the same chick 3 years. It's been pretty smooth so I'll probably just go ahead and build a family soon. I pretty much already got the casual sex out of my system. At one point I had 5 girls I was rotating between and even that gets boring after a while.

At 26-27, you're pretty much prime as a male. I would just scout for the traits you're into, no tattoos, relatively low body counts, coming from a well off family, and just make a serious effort to go on nice dates every week, then get to know each other's families and if it clicks well enough then consider the family route. You can keep trying through your 30s, but it'll probably be a little tougher the longer you wait.

You may be saying, OH SHE HATES ME. Anon, she never hated you. You scared her off and she blocked you. Do you think birds hate you if you go near them? Alright look, women who you think hate you, secretly want you to move forward and believe in yourself. They may be stonecold as fuck about you, but deep down inside they want you to be happy without them and find another girl who will make you happy. Hate is a strong word anon. You don't have a women hate you problem you have a women are afraid of you one.

>>34117397

It's better to understand that women run hot and cold, and adjust your frame to whether she's having a horny time of the month or if you suspect she's seeing a plate. It's a waste of energy to place your bets on "I need to be more sauve" if the mountain pass has unfavorable weather. Don't make excuses for her behavior, instead trust in your own calculations and walk away more.

Here is the biggest sign she does not hate you, she tells you she sees you like a friend, a brother, or anything like that. Women don't go out of their way to say you are those things if they hate you. It's out of fear. Alright. Let's stop this incel crap over nothing.

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>>34097004
girls follow/follower list is mostly guys. As in every day guys, not celebs and the likes in talking about maybe 90-95% of her last 30 followers/people she is follower are guys

Are these all people she is most likely meeting off dating apps which I know she uses.

It's really thrown me. Off, she comes off as this sweet kind good girl type. Cool wholesome artsy hobbies etc. almost dream girl. but then I got shocked at her followers list and kind of got the ick now.

She's so pleasant and low key developed a hard crush on her because how personable she is. Was this all by design and she knows what she's doing?

If anything should I still pursue even if it's just for hooking up, casual, practice (even for talking/texting)

>>34117883
Many such cases

How do I cope with loving 2 suck ladyboys so much more than vag. I consider myself straight man but im worried what my family will think of me

>>34116821
im not even starting with anybody, i go on walks to the city center every day pretty much and all the women there are either with their bfs or in groups (I'm honestly pretty decent facially, just 5'6 but i see guys my height with girls (sometimes ones even slightly taller than them) all the time)

How do I get an assertive black girlfriend as a sensitive whyte boi

>>34097218
it's not, nothing has really changed. Talk, show some personality (hobbies and interests you have), make them laugh, give light compliments (not only on their looks), be nice, make sure you're well groomed and your clothes are at least fashionable in the most basic sense. Make sure you're place or room is clean and you have adequate privacy. Invite them out for drinks or coffee or walk in the park, and let the momentum carry you from there. It's so easy, girls want to send nudes, they want to suck your cock, they want to fuck you, you just have to put in the bare minimum of showing them that you're not a serial killer. You don't have to be rich, or good looking, or tall to do any of this shit, you just have to talk to them.

>>34118633
>Talk, show some personality (hobbies and interests you have)
what if I have no hobbies and my interests are extremely morbid, autistic (samey & habitual), and niche

>>34118656
Play into it but don't be gross or a party pooper
and still show you can be adventurous even if you're autistic, simply trying something and then saying you don't like it is fine. There are women out there that are just like you, they want men too. Just talk to them, literally about anything, even if it's some autistic ass shit like a full run down of the roman empire. Not everyone is going to drop their panties over a history lesson but there are rare ones that do because it shows you have interests and aren't a moron.

How bad of an idea is it to fuck your flatmate?
>>34097141
>ughhghh why can't I slam African pussy without any strings attached
Average Frenchman

>>34118749
Fantastic idea. She's proably thinking the same thing as you so just interpret your next interaction as a bright green light and go for it like a fuckin animal

>>34097141
You have to understand, and you white brethren listen up, the chances of a black woman getting married and having the whole husband and normal family thing are slim to none. 30% actually, so apply a 50% divorce rate to that means maybe, MAYBE 1/10 black women have a shot at happy marriages. Beyoncé wrote a hit song that talked about putting a ring on it because that’s how much of a fucking fantasy it is for them.

Now, let’s talk about education and socioeconomics. Black women graduate college at a rate that is 4x to black men. And let me tell you, women do not like dating down as far as education goes, it’s on par with income.

If you are some white collar dork, snagging a black woman is actually pretty fucking easy.

>>34118770
I see

I am working remotely for a multinational company.

This year we had a get together and I met a really interesting older woman there. I'm guessing above 50, still looking good, had some work done, a cougar basically. We had some company games organized and we were in the same team, and we joked the whole time - even becoming touchy by grabbing each other hands and hugging.

I asked her for a drink, and she said yes, but she spent the remainding two days being encircled by people from her own country, even at night when we were partying.

When we all were leaving to our homes, she came to me, kissed me on the cheek and said We'll have our drinks next time boy.

the next time is in february. We have a new get together and I really want to end up sleeping with her. Any tips for how to pick up an older chick. Also, how to isolate her? I feel she is a bit reserved in front of her countrymen because I'm half her age.

>>34119164
>Also, how to isolate her? I feel she is a bit reserved in front of her countrymen because I'm half her age.
Just ask her out to dinner or lunch. It's really not anyone else's business where you stick your dick or what the fuck a 50 year old woman is doing with her time.

>Finaly get a match
>It’s a profile with blurry filters, but at this pt wgfa?
>Start writing a message
>Sorry a problem has occured
>She unmatched me before I could say anything

I hate being a straight man!

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>matched with three ladies on bumble in the past week
>message them all first
>they all let the 24hr time limit expire
What's even the point? I'd be less upset if they just didn't match with me at all.

>>34119230
I almost never get more than one match at once, so I almost always instantly put the extra 24h.

>Get a bumble match.
>It someone on another continent, using Travel mode

>>34119230
Care less. When you want it too much, it makes things like that suck. But if you have a healthy level of apathy, it’s no big deal.

Men would you be turned on, if A cow had 6 big human breasts

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You gotta think of the women on dating apps like they're all whores until proven otherwise, that way you won't get bitter when not getting any matches or responses
>get ghosted after chatting for a while
>"HA, don't care bitch! Good riddance! You wouldn't deserve me anyway."
It's that easy

>>34119189
Well the problem is that our cultures are a bit different from "no one cares what someone else is doing", people are really intrusive and judgemental.

>>34119452
>people are really intrusive and judgemental.
As they should be.

>>34119452
It honestly doesn't matter, she already agreed to meet you for drinks (which means she wants to bang), if you want more alone time with her just ask her. She's half a hundred years old anon, coyness is out the fucking window, so what if your co-workers know. They are not going to hurt you or her, the only way this gets messy is if she's married.

>>34119262
Lower your standards and start dating fat women

no response in over a week...chalk it up to holidays or shes long gone? also this new captcha is a nightmare

>>34119695
girls take their phones to the hospital room they give birth in. they take their phones to the bathroom, they would take their phones to prison if they could

there's 0 time a girl doesnt have her phone. if she wanted to respond, she would. desu you shouldve moved on day 1

>>34119695
She could have gotten distracted with the Holidays. It's only been a week. I have a friend who responds a month or two later, always with an apology, we pick up the conversation like there was no interruption, not sure why she sucks at messaging back sometimes but I don't take it personally since I know she does it with other people too. Send one last message and just forget her if she doesn't respond. The general rule is that people will always find a way to make time for people or things they care about.

>>34119695
Surely you’ve messaged a “happy new year”…?

>>34120060
yea i did...left on sent she still hasn't seen it yet

>>34120084
Then what are you worried about for now? Assume the best, and ready yourself for the worst.

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Any advice on getting my FWB back? Back in April I kinda picked a fight over not seeing her often enough, and she dipped. Never broke it off per se, just became super distant.

We still keep in touch, but every time I suggest hanging out she leaves me on read. Is there anything I can say or do here?

>>34120154
You went full emo and wonder why you’re no longer the booty call? Kek.

>>34120163
I'm not wondering why, I'm asking if there's any way to fix it.

>>34120168
The only thing i can think of is if you get another fwb or two. But i imagine if that were the case, then you wouldn’t care about not hooking up with the other girl.

>>34120176
>But i imagine if that were the case, then you wouldn’t care about not hooking up with the other girl.

Yeah. Adding to that, I'm just bad with women. I've never put myself out there and succeeded in making something happen. This chick just kinda fell into my lap. We have a rapport, we have good chemistry in bed; in my mind, salvaging this would be effort better spent than trying to find someone new.

I just don't know how to convince her that I won't get too attached again. If I say it, that won't be very convincing. But if I do nothing, then nothing will happen.

Her birthday is coming up and I thought about asking if I could bring over a Christmas/early b-day gift and maybe catch up for an hour or two.

>>34120210
>We have a rapport
Had
>we have good chemistry
Had
>Her birthday is coming up and I thought about asking if I could bring over a Christmas/early b-day gift and maybe catch up for an hour or two.
I’m sure that simping and emoing even harder will just do you wonders….

>>34120168
you caught feelings, it's done anon
time could possibly fix it but that's typically years away

>>34120222
You could just tell me your analysis without being snarky. I don't get the weird condescending tone lmao

>>34120226
>I don't get the weird condescending tone lmao
Because you need a hard backhand across your face with a reality check.

>>34119562
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Any specific tips when dealing with older women?
Should I just hit her room, I know they have a no bullshit policy.

>>34120223
For context - the reason I picked the fight initially is because I felt we were more than FWB. We would celebrate every holiday together, we introduced each other to our families. We went on several vacations together, just her and I.

Maybe I'm naive, but that's not just fuckbuddy stuff IMO. So when I pressed for us to be more regular, I didn't think it would go the way it did.

>>34120240
That's fair then BUT she obviously enjoys the freedom. She gets boyfriend perks and experiences while getting to say she's still single and see other guys. You weren't seeing other girls? Either way I think it's over for you two.

>>34120240
Fucking hell. Sounds like you were the girl of the relationship. I need you to imagine that the roles were reversed.
>guy tells girl he doesn’t want anything serious
>she says she’s down for that
>they get along well so they fuck and spend time with each other
>she seems laid back and cool as shit
>one day she blows up at him because she thought he was in love with her like she is and is pissed off because she thought it was something more
>guy is surprised pikachu face and nopes away from all that bullshit.

>>34120255
When we got together, I told her I wanted exclusivity and she agreed, so AFAIK neither of us were seeing other people. Another reason I was baffled she didn't consider us a relationship.

We'd even talked about it before and she asked me, "What do you consider a relationship?" I told her, "What we're already doing," and said I was confused and sketched out about why she DIDN'T consider this a relationship.

She didn't really have a response. Just kind of a weird character.

>>34120270
I dunno. Maybe if this was a few months of fucking around I'd agree. But this was two years of my life. I think I was entitled to my point of view.

>>34120288
>i call 2 years of exclusivity a fwb
Go fuck yourself.

Is Hinge worth paying for if I'm not getting any matches or likes on free?

>>34120300
I asked my question from that perspective because that's clearly how SHE sees it. Hitting her up and saying, "Erm, what we actually had was a relationship and I would like to resume it," is not going to do me any favors.

I have been under the assumption that because she will still initiate contact with me, there's still something there. That's where I'm at.

>>34120316
>that's clearly how SHE sees it
Look at you all up in your feels. No wonder she left you.

>>34120326
Epic and based. Teach me how to break her frame, Mr. Tate

>>34120302
NTA but seconding, I heard either hinge or duet were for actually long term dating with chicks who have at least some form of geek interests.

Anyone here have experience with speed dating events? Is it worth trying?

thoughts on dating older (2-3 years) women as a guy in his late twenties?
yes? no? should i just not bother if she seems to be slightly mentally unstable?

>>34120662
>older
>2-3 years
ffs

>bumble forces you to take a selfie
Why do they make us suffer. Im ugly,I just want to window shop

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pic to get your attention
i work night shift(10-6), where do i actually go to meet women when i'm asleep or working during peak socialization hours

Don't truly see a point in continuing trying to get with women. You cannot objectively get with one. I've done everything right for years, and still end up ghosted the moment I try dating them. I would know. However, you can make something for yourself (money, etc...) and that can eventually buy pussy or lead to your future wife if presented right, top notch at that. Women are too unpredictable otherwise.

It's kinda funny but I might be meeting a girl tomorrow. I didn't ask for her number, nor she did mine, but we both said we'd be at a place around a certain time on a certain day. It's somewhere I always go at that time and she volunteered herself to appear there and we left it at that.

I like that kinda shit. It's pretty low commitment, there's no weird formalities of texting and confirming and all that. If she appears or not it doesnt matter because it's just a place i go to at that specific time on that specific day and she expressed more interest in meeting me there than I.

in fact, I didn't even start texting with the last girl I fucked until after our 2nd date (both dates included fucking)

>>34121331
story behind tomorrow's potential girl:
>shopping in thrift store
>ask for a fitting room from kinda cute girl
>come out and she recognizes me from a certain place
>I totally blank
>she reminds me that I complimented her fashion
>now I remember, we chat a little and I go back to looking around
>she comes over to me to put some clothes away and asks if i need help and all that, eventually leading to that understanding that we may meet up

seeing as she followed me around the store a little, I'm going to say if she shows up, she's quite interested.

I really feel like I need to get together with an older woman purely to dispel my MILF fetish. :|

>cute girl I was really into broke up with her boyfriend around Christmas
>thought I’d be in with a chance since I think she was kind of attracted to me based on her behaviour
>got together with a guy from her social circle barely 2 weeks later before I had a chance to see her again

I get that you’re not supposed to get hung up on girls but man, I really wanted to date her and I didn’t even get a shot to ask her out.

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When do I start getting matches on dating apps? I've been on for a few days now but nothing. I live in a rural area, and I've read mixed things.

>>34097004
How do I deal with being in love with a girl who doesn't seem used to people telling her no?

Are we just talking or seeing each other at this point?
She and I meet up on the weekend. I make it known that the meet up will be a date. In the past, when we were chatting she reveals she is not a big believer or all that confident in relationships.
While we hung out in the past, this time around I made my intentions clear. And next weekend will be the second time I've invited her out and specifically said it will be a date.
What is next? Keep chatting? How or when should I initiate the move to the next stage? I want to reiterate: she is not confident in relationships.

>>34120680
i'm serious anon, she's a millennial and i'm an old zoomer

>>34122243
The only ones fucking you are tinder themselves
>what is the gender balance in your area like
>what is the gender balance on the app in your area like
>women in nearby cities will see how far you are and ghost
>apps suck anyway even if you are attractive
Dont pay them. Move.

>>34122601
You need to stop overthinking this shit wtf do those words even mean
Go hold her hand while walking tell her you enjoy spending time with her ask if you can give her a goodbye kiss at the end.

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How do you cope with the insecurity of being single for a long time? Ive been trying to better myself by lifting weights, practicing music everyday, and stopped drinking but this insecurity continues to gnaw at me every day. I feel like im a lesser man because I haven't been intimate or even had a talking stage with a woman in 7+ years even though I do shit like rugby. Like I feel so fucking jealous everytime I hear somebody mention they go on dates, its as if I lack a basic social skill that most people can do with ease.

>>34122987
I feel the same. It's feels like an aspect of the human experience we're not allowed to have for some inexplicable reason.
The way I cope is seeing the universe as my enemy to fight. The universe has told us no, and we will not listen. Don't be upset about what you weren't given. Be proud of what you had to fight for and won. Keep grinding and it'll pay off.

>>34121750
Remember not to beat yourself up over your first sex or date. It's the awkward phase alright. If you stick it in and came, that's all that counts.

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