>What is /htgwg/?How to Get Women General is by men, for men, about women, so bring all of your questions about getting and dealing with women here. Some anons on this site actually get laid, and some of them even want to help. If you're trying to meet and date women, then this is the place to ask questions, seek advice, and share experiences. We know how hard it can be. We got you bro.>What is /htgwg/ not?These threads are NOT for whining, moping, incels, volcels, MGTOW, hopelessness, or demoralization. We're all aware that meeting and dating women is hard today, and even harder for some, but /htgwg/ is for trying to overcome the challenges. IGNORE the posters who complain, give up, or insist there's nothing they can do. This site has other boards and threads that they can pollute. BE SMART: Spot the bait, don't reply, and DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM!>How to ask for adviceContext is important: be more specific than "This girl ghosted me, why?" We can't help if we don't know the situation, so try to provide as much (useful) info as possible ("I was at the bar, this chick was checking me out..."). What's your relationship with the girl? How long have you known her? Any conversation screenshots? Etc... Don't forget to ask an actual question.>Resources and Bookshttps://wingman.live/ (AI dating coach)https://pdfcoffee.com/318797392-mark-manson-models-2016pdf-4-pdf-free.htmlhttps://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612https://www.youtube.com/@YourWingmamhttps://www.doctornerdlove.com/blog/https://pastebin.com/7U5Sdhwq (Leykis 101)https://dokumen.pub/why-women-deserve-less-firstnbsped-1467978302-r-1917433.htmlhttps://www.fantasticanachronism.com/p/how-to-be-good-at-dating(new suggestions with working links are welcome)REMEMBER: It's good to read and prepare, but don't overdo it. Get off this site: go learn and build up your social skills by meeting actual women in the real world.Prev: >>34234732
I did an evaluation of how many hinge dates ive been on since September. Out of ~80 matches, i got maybe 25 to agree to meet, 19 of them actually followed through and met, 7 resulted in additional dates, and only 1 truly progressed to "seeing" eachother for a span of like 2 months but never officially were a couple.If thats your metric for success then I could imagine that seems pretty grim. Fwiw though im also looking for a legit connection, someone i would eventually want to marry. If I had been looking for casual relationships/hookups then im sure i couldve made at least a third of those dates more "successful"
>>34271127any euro anons, how do I get a gf in poland. what apps are popular
If you don't care, you'll miss opportunity moments and potentially good matchesIf you do care, you'll scare them off even before you open your mouthIf you care a little you won't be your best selfThis game sucks
I could care less for romance and sex, I just want good girl friends that don't fucking avoid me when they misunderstand I might like them, I could care less about then romantically or sexually like to give hugs... And for obvious reasons not to men, since they are more uncomfortable or easy to call gay
my goal has been to get my ex to block me on every platform. is this a good idea? I know she'll never be into me again and we'd never cross paths, so I don't mind looking bad towards her because who cares what she thinks?
>>34271127Any tips on photos I should use for Tinder? Like poses, places, what I'm doing in them etc? I want to change them up but getting photos with friends isn't something my friends group does, so they'd be mostly alone I guess.>inb4 noooo dont use tinder it sucksI actually do pretty alright on it but I want to improve my photos a little.
>>34271475Very flawed assertion, anon
>>34271433This but for Serbia, help really appreciated
>good at small talk>tall and fit>deep voice that I get complimented on any time I meet a new group of people>give off "big brother" vibes>men and women both say im funny and easy to talk to>give off the impression that I have "hoes" somehow>zero actual success in securing dates or even casual flings>the one gf I had years ago was genuinely convinced I was lying when I told her she was my first everythingIs this an uncommon experience? I've poured over past texts and replayed conversations in my head and I can't find the FLAW that's warding off these women. I feel like I'm at my wit's end here. Anyone in a similar boat that can offer some advice?
>>34272506>give off "big brother" vibesif you've gotten this comment enough times that even you use it to describe yourself then that means it's something you need to change when trying to secure a romantic partner, women don't want to fuck their brothers. Otherwise you sound fine, just maybe find a way to turn down the brotherly vibes.
>>34272522I guess my issue is that I don't really know how to turn that off. I only have one sibling and she's older than me by a few years. I don't know what an older brother acts like or how I'm emulating one.
>>34272526It's hard to say, there are a bunch of ways to be brotherly, and we ofc don't know anything about you, but based on what you typed I'm going to guess that you tease, or joke around in a way that feel like how an attentive brother would typically interact with their siblings. You're giving too much of yourself away, a lot of attraction, at least initially, revolves around people trying to fill in the blanks on people.
The best way to handle a woman acting bitchy with you that you love is to just be neutral with her okay. Going with anger and trying to make her happy ain't gonna go nowhere, but being neutral usually wins, okay?
>>34271475Somehow despite people getting in relationships every day you think every level of investment is negative. Maybe you need to rethink?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2lr91enp9po Just talk to her what’s the worst that can happ. ACKKKKKKKSo how are white males supposed to find love?
>>34272843>news station is reality
>>342718381. A picture of you involved in one of your hobbies2. A picture of you with a pet or other small animal3. Picture of you in a suit at a wedding or some other formal type event4. Full body picture that suggests you’re in really good shape without being annoying about it
>>34273241How can a white man like myself meet legal aged white girls that don’t have body counts ? Whenever I goto amusement arcades I never see single women there.
>>34273260Pretty good list, thank you. >Full body picture that suggests you’re in really good shape without being annoying about itI'm currently working on getting in shape, I'm kind of in that skinnyfat area but slightly worse.
>>34271127Thats the neat part, you don’t
Went out with a woman for boba earlier this week. She ordered first, I was gonna let her pay, then she said, "How about we order together?" With her card in her hand. I say sure. I order my tea as well and then she says, "How about we Venmo each other later?" I say sure. I pay for the drinks and that was that. The date was okay.She later texted me that it was nice meeting me and asked if she should Venmo. I replied with, "Nice meeting you too, I've got to try your cooking." No reply. I texted her again the next day saying that she can Venmo me. She does. A few days later I ask her when our next date is. At this point I don't actually care but like to push buttons.Her reply was basically, "I don't think we have much in common. Also, I or any of my friends wouldn't give a guy who doesn't pay for the first date a second date." I just replied "Equality". This woman was in her early 30s, has her own company and definitely makes enough money.I have absolutely no issue paying for first dates, but I hate being expected to. I've noticed that almost every recent date I've been on that I've paid for has never said thank you. Whether it was only $6 or $50. I've also noticed that the women that are already into you don't really care if I pay, they pay or we split. I've also had a woman who profusely thanked me for paying for our date $35 and told me she would get the next one. She ghosted.
>>34273823>"Also, I or any of my friends wouldn't give a guy who doesn't pay for the first date a second date." I just replied "Equality". Based. >I have absolutely no issue paying for first dates, but I hate being expected to. I've noticed that almost every recent date I've been on that I've paid for has never said thank you.A lot of dates I go on either want to split things or often offer to pay for it all, with my theory being that they don't want to feel like they owe you something. As for your case, that's just the boomer "the man should pay" mindset.
I asked my gf to suck my dick straight after we had made up from a little upset while her eyes and cheek were still red and puffy from cryingit fulfilled my fantasy of seeing a crying girl sucking my dickIt was so sexy seeing her start to feel better from having my cock in her mouth
>>34273823It is really weird but not all women are like this thankfully. Its amusing to overanalyze and judge the ones who act like this though
>>34273823If you keep getting ghosted, then you're definitely the problem. Have you thought about not acting like a cringelord faggot?
>>34273951When did I say I keep getting ghosted? The only thing that I said that was repetitive was that they don't say thank you. Why would I want to keep paying for first dates when the majority can't even say thanks? If these women are ghosting about me for not paying for their $6 matcha, that isn't a me issue.It's funny how women will sit and say that if a man doesn't pay for the first date he is setting an example for the future is laughable. Bitch, why are you entitled for free shit? You want equality in this world but still expect me to drop money on you when we don't even know each other.
>>34273823good on you man. I know it's hard, and in the back of your mind you are thinking "oh but what if I had paid for it, " but We're collectively sick of paying for roasties food and getting literally zero in return. I had a date with a turkish girl here in Portugal, paid for everything, picked her up and dropped her home. Went great, but led to nothing. 50€ down the drain. You can get an escort for that much here btw. She was also a "feminist", but when it came down to paying she was holding her card behind me, but sheepishly waiting for me to pay, in a dissimulated way saying: " oh did you pay mine? thank you".Fuck it
>>34272843>>34273267Anyone ?
How do you actually start talking to a woman?
>been in a mental rut for months>been only deepening lately>female shows interest in me>instantly cured and life feels greatI hate that it works like this
>>34272506I'm good looking and I think people around me have assumes a lot about my love/sex life for a long time...>Anyone in a similar boat that can offer some advice?can't. I'm retarded.>>34273823sounds like you were being taken advantage of or something, tbqh>>34273874>I asked my gfyou don't belong here, retard>>34274847talk random shit. I have trouble with what comes next, though
Has anyone here actually gone from socially awkward to being able to strike up and hold convo with almost anyone? I feel like my challenges are self-esteem, not caring for small talk, not knowing what to actually talk about, and general fear I guess.
hi, can i have a woman?I like ones who are kind
What do I do if I'm not interested in getting a woman?
>>34275333Yes, and it wasn't something I really figured out until I was in my mid 20s. Here are my biggest tips for you:- People actually want to be talked to in most settings. Unless it's like the gym or public transit, people even expect that strangers will talk to them in a place like a bar.- Talk to everyone. It's going to be super uncomfortable and feel performative at first, but this is how you practice. Make small talk with the next cashier or server you interact with. If you go to a party, make a point to introduce yourself to everyone.- Find common ground as quickly as possible with strangers. People love being related to. Ask people about their favorite movies, music, hobbies, whatever and if you have one in common talk about that with them.- Always look happy to see someone you've already met. Smile when you see them and say hi. This goes a long way with building relationships.
>>34275477So mainly you just made it a priority to talk to everyone you see? (Except in some specific scenarios) Just a Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening and Small talk topics? - What if its someone you see on a regular basis like the cashier. - Don't you struggle remembering names or things about people if you introduce yourself to everyone?- How'd this affect your ability to get women? I guess initial part isn't too different, just needing to learn to escalate and show interest.Thinking about it.. I guess fear does play a bigger part for me. Concerned of looking weird and if its someone I see frequently, being someone they don't enjoy talking to..
>>34275477If you give your attention to everyone then it becomes worthless
>>34275333I went with the general assumption that people love talking about themselves and what they're up to in their lives, so just keep asking questions and being interested and they'll keep talking. You won't even have to say much, just listening is enough.
>>34274149so are you getting ghosted or not?
Reminder for everyone here, not to let arrogant behavior get to you okay? The real rich man is the one who came home to get a hug from his mom, not the one who had it all.
How do I unconservative myself?In regards to relationships. Not in the sense of "I want kids", but "I only want a lifelong partner". I would never want to pass on my DNA.Even when a girl literally ASKS me out, I always chicken shit out because I'm like "it won't work because y and z and we will break up eventually". But I just drank tonight, at a bar that had only men and I'm still drunk right now and I'm going "DAMN ITD BE FUN TO HAVE A GIRLFRIEND I SHOULDVE GONE TO A BAR WHERE ALL THE GIRLS GO". How do I make myself want relationships even if I can predict it might end in a breakup?
>>34274537the only girl i went out with didnt even thank me for the cappuccino i offered her
>>34274943wrong. I belong here because I'm giving motivation to you incels lolhave sex, incel!