Aint nobody fucking flossing bro. Just brush your teeth and maybe use a mouth wash and youre good

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>>34460573
hinge prompt ideas

>life goal, continue doing olympic triathlons every year (women eat this up, if you're in the medical field definitely flash that too, they love "health" tropes)
>together we could, stargaze with my cat (some silly but adventurous thing outside the house - it filters the snobby madams)
>typical Sunday, research tea flavenoids and skate at the park (the contrast here could make them curious)

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I don't know what's wrong with me. I'll talk to girls, they're clearly interested, we have fine chemistry, and I just... stop caring halfway through the conversation. I don't care to keep doing the ritual, I don't care to keep laying down game, any desire I had to fuck her or whatever just evaporates. Maybe it's because I've been spoiled a couple times by ferociously horny BPD women who literally dragged me home to fuck and when a woman shows less investment than that I just feel like I'm wasting my time

>>34460637
If you're like me, you don't need women, just gotta know you're capable of obtaining them. Self validation.

Horniness makes a huge difference too. If I don't jack off one day, I'm ready to love bomb until after I sex bomb, then I just wanna do hobbies, without them

>>34460669
Yeah same. It's also a matter of not being able to ignore how, even if a woman is tearing your pants off to ride you like a thai hooker for 5 hours, she never ever ever ever wants or cares about or even mentally registers YOU. The image you present (game) aligns with her interests and hormones at a given time and she'll engage with you sexually out of convenience so long as those are aligned and thats it. If you're around her when those aren't aligned, you're in for endless disrespect, being ghosted, shittested mercilessly, etc even if you never changed. As i observe the relationships around me this reality is becoming more and more unignorable. It has largely killed my appetite for women
I realize this SNCA essay is not really appropriate for the thread about men who WANT to get with women but i figure putting this knowledge in front of peoples' eyes is useful somewhat

Should I even bother with IRL dating at this point?

>be me
>very shy and anxious, extremely afraid of rejection
>my very few past partners during high school were thanks to them approaching me
>now I'm grown up and I go to hobbies and social stuff, so I've been "putting myself out there"
>haven't tried clubbing because I'm stiff as a board and very conscious about it, but I frequent bars

I got 1 (one) date last year from a girl who approached me and it went nowhere
I installed bumble recently (the worst dating app of the big three), got +100 likes in a day, and asked out 3 girls. They all said yes and so I had 3 dates in a week

Should I bother with the trouble of fixing my IRL approaching anxiety? Or should I just focus on min maxing my apps profiles?

>>34460790
To clarify, I'll keep goung outside, but not with the intention of finding someone, just to socialize

>>34460697
They literally might not be capable of being good women - women who see and respect a man for who he is, not what he can provide.

Observing white women in public, I see so much angst, dissonance, impatience, hubris. Alone or with a man. If I sense any of that, I'm done. It's exactly like you say. Expending effort for a broken, ugly spirit like that is a fools task. No respect or divine attunement to be found there. Yes, it could be a protective facade to shield a weak inner core, but fuck that dude...

Someone you marry or foresee marriage being an option with shouldn't practice these ugly emotions daily.

Men aren't perfect either. They have a difficult time attuning to a woman's thoughts, humiliating them without knowing it. E.g. ruining a special moment for a woman by saying something cold or crude. (staying silent typically wins if you aren't sure)

Anyway, chinese women are the most consistent in terms of seeing me for who I am. I am grateful for them. Otherwise I'd be so much closer to thining ALL women were BPD, arrogant, evil, and broken.

The chinese women I've known embody a calm spirit, many apply logic to situations, and all wanted to make me happy. They love like a high IQ women. Which is to learn my mind and devote themselves to me. That's what you should do as a man too btw

Very few white women are capable of this

Where do you find homely women?

I still have a lot to improve on, so I can't expect a perfect women. But I except them to be open to improving and growing together.

I have a calm spirit, and don't yell or blow up on women, so I expect to find a girl who is the same

I've met some nice white women, but they were from the countryside. Too naive, believing in crystals or too open and susceptible to manipulation, or I just had nothing in common with them.

I have a lot of depth, compared to most people, and relationships feel like that gets cut off. The depth turns shallow and it becomes Food! Eat eat eat! yes yes ok I understand you like food. But I want you to like ancient history. Tell me about that, or about the process of stitching.

Low IQ, no hobby havers talk about eating food on the first date.

>>34460860
bars, chain cafes, 1st year dropouts, colleges (not uni), not downtown but not suburbs either

>>34460836
+2000 social credit

It’s so fucking infuriating that I have to make a perfect profile to even get a single like, and yet 90% of women have clearly put no effort into their profiles yet they still get dozens of likes and a line of dudes to choose from. This fucking society cannot blow up fast enough

>>34460876
It doesn't mean they have it easy

Yes they get to socialize more, but they have to be much more discerning. And socializing doesn't lead them to enlightenment, happiness, or self satisfaction.

I understand we don't need an army of women throwing themselves at us, just a 1-3 decent women to acknowledge our greetings. I think that's the real source of frustration here

>>34460875
t. crude thinker

>>34460790
>very shy and anxious, extremely afraid of rejection
You need to work on this. Specially if it's that intense then people will pick up on your unhealthy attachment styles and problem solving issues.

>>34460876
Yeah it kind of sucks but now consider this: More attention means more to shift through, which means more low quality people no man or women want to hang around with. Would you rather be surrounded by a bunch of fat cunts who are just going to psychologically manipulate you and make you feel like a piece of shit or no one? It's always better to be alone than with someone abusive.

I've been lonely as fuck all winter but being mad at women for getting attention is the wrong move

get mad at them for doing you wrong is ok, but still unproductive for your future

>>34460948
More s, be mad at the women who wronged you, not women in general. It's not l women's fault, just specific ones. When you blame it on everyone you fall in to the rabbit hole just like feminist dom

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>>34460951
Yes, exactly
good lad!!
happy Friday bro

>>34460577
You’re disgusting, all that salt and sugar and shit builds up between your teeth so fast

>>34460888
>And socializing doesn't lead them to enlightenment
Believe me I know this better than anyone

>>34460669
Hes more like me. A selfless chad that is a great guy who has been around since he came out in age but is still the most talented in this world with his age group of young men who have a great game of basketball in the league with the most important women.

>>34461043
>chad here

In online dating, how do you get them to show you their tits?

>>34460951
>When you blame it on everyone you fall in to the rabbit hole just like feminist dom
saw someone freak out today and thought of this comment kek

>>34460573
>no girl sitting across the table op pic

How long should you go until you totally give up
Manlet, 32, plenty of dates from online. (I put i'm 170, with shoes that's accurate without, 164)

Yet, no girl seems to go on a second date with me. Out of 24 dates I've gotten laid once this year.
I've kissed some of my dates.

I seem to have no problem getting dates, but huge problem getting them to commit to me or going out more than once.

I look back at all my dates and notice a pattern:
They are enthusiastic in text, then he moment we meet I see them looking tense, and standoffish. The date mostly goes about in a polite manner. Nothing I try or do , or not do changes their mood.
I've tried being non-chalant, ignoring them, ramping up warmness, being funnier, more charismatic, less try hard, forcing them to put in more effort
I've tried pretty much every tactic and non-tactic (just be yourself)
Yet, the results speak for themselves

Now that's just this year, last year i probably went on 50 dates and got laid 3 times.
So i've had time to experiment with tactics and strategies and advice.

Like there truly is a chance that there's a type of guy who no girl wants to go out with.
And i'm afraid that's me

I asked this last thread, wit/charm is something that needs practice, right?
I believe I have some of it by default, without working on it, but I tend to be really slow to come up with something to say to girls, even when I end up in a situation where I could talk comfortably to them.

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>>34461707
Is online dating all you have access to? That might be the problem, the pool you're drawing from.

pic related

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>>34461707
Anon, I think you know what's the issue here. But all things considered, your results are very decent. I'd say keep going. Points for putting your height in your profile, I don't do that and some of the rejections I've gotten (all polite and none to my face btw) I'm sure were based on my height, but my results are good enough for me not to change anything.
>>34461713
There's a reason it's called a social skill, not a social talent.

>>34460637
you have a warped sense of value based on your past experiences. a healthy relationship takes a lot of work from both parties, treating everything as a zero-sum game is a good strategy for avoiding oneitis but it is only vaguely based on reality. you have to evaluate each girl independently, or else admit you just want a bpd psycho and embrace your fate

>>34461707
don't mistake the small pond you're in for the entire ocean. are you also trying to connect with women you meet by accident in public? not only are app users a self-selected group but you've also been filtered to specific users.

Is 28 too old to get your first gf?

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>>34463058
yes 27 is unfortunately the max

A girl asked me out but then flaked. Why does that happen?

I think I'm gonna give up on dating altogether, I thought I finally was able to find a girl but I have mental issues and she's got worse ones, I can see this ending up as a disaster.

>>34463584
there could be many reasons. ask her

>>34463728
That's dumb

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>>34461707
My lust died the second I wrote the average feminine nature on paper and stratified it according to its moral nature. I am now convinced that the only thing you are supposed to do as a soul, as a man is to wrestle your own flesh into submission, find God and develop a prosperous and altruistic relationship with our creator in order to escape this prison. 99% of women are half humans with no souls, everything they strive for and enjoy is ultimately evil in its nature. The very core of femininity is absolute evil that seeks to devour good men with the same glee and joy you'd get from stomping out some dorky kids sand castle.

Once I realized why women are the way they are, it's like I've finally been enlightened as to why hermit monks become hermits in the first place. It's all a lie, its all a joke. This planet is a prison, women are archons who genuinely don't give a fuck about anything but they have to pretend to have interests beyond themselves just so men don't become suspicious and notice the huge disparity in the nature of each gender. It's not a complimentary nature, it's completely one-sided and parasitic. The entire role of women is to entrap a mans life force and pull another soul onto this false reality incarnation trap. That's all they were designed to do. Satan takes a hold of their hivemind vessels with comedic ease and no resistance. They are all beyond corrupt, they fall apart once a month and endure pain unless they fulfill their ill-natured task. There is nothing in this world worth striving for besides Gods love. There is absolutely NOTHING in this world that is worth your place in heaven.

>>34463953
Still hilarious.

>>34463058
It's never too late until you're dead.
I got mine at 27.

>>34463720
>I have mental issues and she's got worse ones, I can see this ending up as a disaster.
So what's the problem?
Date and have it end in disaster.
Life is full of disasters and you very rarely have the advantage of knowing ahead of time. Date with the expectation that it will all fall apart miserably.
When she acts insane and emotionally unstable, you won't be shocked or surprised. You expected this. It's going as planned.
Relax and enjoy yourself and appreciate her for the traits you like.

>>34460637
>>34460697
>The image you present (game) aligns with her interests and hormones at a given time and she'll engage with you sexually out of convenience so long as those are aligned and thats it.
The game is exactly the problem. You're putting on an act that you believe is necessary to attract a woman and then feel nothing because she's attracted to the act and not you.
The solution is obvious: Stop putting on an act. Be a genuine human being trying to connect with another person.
But that risks rejection or failure and you'd rather have fleeting empty success than that.

>If you're around her when those aren't aligned, you're in for endless disrespect, being ghosted, shittested mercilessly, etc even if you never changed.
Not really. If you have self respect, establish and hold boundaries, and don't sacrifice your self worth to get a woman to enjoy being with you, you shouldn't ever have to do any of what you suggested.

However, if every woman you've ever encountered has never liked anything about your sincere self, you might want to look into changing yourself a bit.

>>34464029
It makes me so anxious that she talks about suicide, I didn't know she was talking about it cuz she said it when we were talking about her current headache:
>I just want it to end
I joked and said
>well if it gets too bad we'll get you some morphine
she likes these stupid jokes usually
>Thanks for the tip
Seemed colder than usual
>Is something up, i thought we were talking about headaches
>I was talking about my life
No she wasn't joking, I apologized and she hasn't replied in 3 hours

>>34461196
Can someone please answer this?

>>34464111
Last Saturday she flirted with me in very sexual and explicit ways admitting she was into me, then told me she actually wants to take it slow, we kissed only, then she grew cold, didn't reply to me most of two days, I decided to leave her alone, she started texting me back all excuse today, now this shit.
I'm so tired of this push and pull, it took us forever to get to this stage and she's still fucking doing it.

>>34464135
>All excuse
All excited*

>>34460872
What do you do once you see them?

>>34461196
You bring up the topic like
>how big are yours
>this celebrity has nice ones
And then ask them to show theirs directly
Will they show the tits? Probably not, but still worth trying.

How do you bring girls from the coffee/bar tinder date back to your place??

>>34464353
I ignore them
I like clean women that won't give me a headache if their day isn't perfect

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I've noticed that women have only been genuinely attracted to me when I've been miserable in my life
>and obviously nothing would come of it, because depressed
Yet when I have had more of my shit together, or when I have been confident and happy everyone, including women, had been upset or very uncomfortable around me
What do you think the explanation for this is?

>>34460573
i fucking hate women and women fucking hate me, how do i get them to fuck me for free?

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>be 18
>working at mcdonalds
>average build, 7/10 face
>cleaning the dinning area and end up talking to a girl my age who hangs around the restaurant often.
>pretty hot,
>she asks me my name
>says "you have a very memorable face anon"
>she hits on me for a bit
>asks me what time I get off work
>too late for her, so she asks me when I will be working again (tomorrow)
>see you then anon.

What should I do here.

>>34465269
get off 4chan you retarded fucking normie. 4chan is for mentally ill ugly autists.

>>34465295
Only on 4chan will someone advise you to get off of it. Never change, 4chan.

>>34465188
Reminds me of my friend.
When he felt good, clean, well dressed, haircut, shaven, well dressed, feeling good? Women actually recoiled.
When he threw on some dirty clothes to scruffily buy gas station pizza after weekend of gaming, bushy messy hair, greasy skin, wrinkled clothes? Random women would approach him at night in a convenience store.

He was pretty horrified because he didn't want a woman who wanted a slob. But I think I figured it out. He was a bear of a guy. When he was looking sharp, he was energetic and intimidating. Like an authoritative new boss who was ready to shake things up.
But when he was scruffy he looked cuddly and a bit goofy.

It might just be about how approachable you appear.

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When it comes to photos for a dating app, what do I do? I have regular guy friends and none of us take pictures when we're doing shit, we're pretty much in the moment and none of us really use social media beyond just posting pics of their cars.
I've been toying with a few ideas like taking some professional portraits but idk if that looks too fake. The other idea is slightly shitty photos and I just AI fake some backgrounds like mountains or a volcano or some other weird shit in the background to grab attention.

I'm fine at conversation and on apps, but getting swiped on is the challenge I guess. I also have no idea how to do anything beyond just being friendly IRL since you never know if someone is already in a relationship or was just being friendly, while at least with apps you both know whats up.

>>34465253
women never fuck for free, especially not if they hate you.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FgxacX72snA

>>34465798
Unless you're ugly selfies should work. Don't use AI, it looks obvious

>>34464802
>Hey, wanna grab a coffee/drink at my place?
That's it. Or you can come up with an excuse, it doesn't really matter

where to meet women online other than dating apps?
those are all owned by the same company and they all suck.

>>34466093
>Unless you're ugly selfies should work
I look good enough I guess (general /soc/ rating for my pics is about 7 or 7.5/10) but I always hear about being alone in every photo being a bad thing and especially bad when it's always indoors (hence the AI mountain idea). I have one or two outdoor photos from my backyard, but I thought I'd add like a distant mountain view to imply I travel.

Better to date a loving mean bitch than a tempermental woman.

>>34466103
My profile is all selfies and I get regular dates. Maybe if I had photos with friends, dogs and skydiving I'd be getting more matches, but at the end of the day it's all about rules 1&2

>>34466251
>My profile is all selfies and I get regular dates
No shit? That's interesting. How are they posed then? Are they phone style selfies or do you have some tripod posed ones too?

I have one photo with friends but it's getting pretty old and it's a shitty scan of a polaroid since my friend at the time was really into that kinda thing.

>>34466266
Normal phone selfie, nothing special. One is outdoors, sure, the other three are indoors

What are you guys' experience with tinder and dating apps? Is it actually a good way to find something long term?

>>34466325
People here hate the apps but I've met plenty of women thanks to them. You just need to be reasonable and not to fall for the first girl to match you, you'll also need some resilience and perseverance, as flakes are common

>>34466325
never found a long term relationship through them and been on hundreds of dates

like think about it psychologically
you both believe there are more options out there
and this causes both of you to feel any sort of thing off, you can go find another person

in a sense urgency, and irreplacability are what create long term things
and dating apps produce non of that

>>34466312
I find that just incredible. What are you doing in them then? Anything happening? I keep hearing that showing your hobby or some shit is important (cooking, building something, fixing something etc).

>>34466325
I've managed it twice on Tinder. Quite a while ago I had a long term that lasted for about a year but it fell apart fast at the very end, she found out she was unable to ever have children and she felt guilty that me staying with her meant I wouldn't have any either and she broke it off. It was some really sad shit, she was in tears constantly over it and nothing I did could help because it seemed to just make her feel worse and she just kept saying I shouldn't have to waste my time with her.

Anyway, point being that it can happen, but I think women from Tinder have a bit of a rep for imperfections and that can vary from something small like OCD to something massive like what she was dealing with.

>>34466388
.I find that just incredible. What are you doing in them then? Anything happening? I keep hearing that showing your hobby or some shit is important (cooking, building something, fixing something etc).
No, they're just normal, honest to God selfies. No hobbies or anything

Women that unmatch you for not replying on the same day deserve the fuckiest of fuckboys

>>34464802
Be clear about your intentions. Say “hey why don’t we take this somewhere more private”

are dating apps humiliation ritual at this point? Last time I used them was one year ago and there was a date with a anarchoqueer vegan crazy person. Nothing interesting really. And I hate playing the social status game.

>>34466652
Ive had more success in RL than on any dating app in the past 10 years. when dating apps came out the algorythms tried to get everyone a match. nowadays they just try to get as many matches as possible, so chads with anyone basically.

>>34466654
I don't want just to fuck. In fact I don't want to fuck at all. Hookers are cheap and easily available here. I just want a woman to chill at home and do stuff together outside. Where do you meet people like that?

>>34466661
>Where do you meet people like that?
nowhere lol
seriously, the usual places, but with an extremely low chance of success. helps if youre hot, then women will want to commit to you

>>34466663
that's weird man. I've met 2 - 3 women the last year but all they want to do is to get fucked and go on with their lives. I don't have real friends and I want some company really.

>>34466668
just be glad youre getting laid at least

>>34466364
>you both believe there are more options out there
>and this causes both of you to feel any sort of thing off, you can go find another person
This isn't a new phenomenon. It's a reoccurring theme on Seinfeld, a sitcom based on observation of people, and that show ended over a quarter century ago.

>>34466672
nowadays I don't even want to get laid desu. You can fuck hookers with 20€ here. Getting laid says nothing to me. You can't have any genuine connections with people nowadays, it's really sad.

>>34466678
damn, only 20? where the fuck do you live? SEA?

>>34466654
Chad genes here and I have zero matches the past 2 weeks

>>34466800
f you cant match youre not a true chad, or your pictures really fucking suck but then again chad is hot from any angle

fuck man my ex is with someone else so i blocked her but i still regret sending a kind of angry text but I was drunk. Starting the gym tomorrow, my band is going to start playing concerts so I think I'll be doing better with girls. Does anybody have tips for first dates? I'm usually quite bad at them, I struggle to raise tensions and to talk much while I'm still not used to the girl. Also wouldn't mind advice on approaching women at bars, I don't like to rely on drunk women approaching me